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The chief public health officer says enough vaccine has been delivered to cover 60 per cent of the high-priority patients, but certain factors they could not anticipate are causing a shortage.

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Many excuses, and plenty of blame are being spread around from every level. But, few worthwhile reasons to have scared people to death...force them to line-up for hours...and tell everyone there's a shortage. It's (always) someone else's fault it seems. Once again political expediency trumps the lessons learned from the SARS outbreak, and from all the planning for the Avian Flu that never was. Shame on us for being duped yet again into believing that politicians and bureaucrats have our best interests at heart.

Bill Akerley - Ottawa

Butler-Jones says vaccine shortage a 'disappointment'

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Butler-Jones says vaccine shortage a 'disappointment'

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Date: Sun. Nov. 1 2009 11:08 PM ET

Canada's chief public health officer says he is disappointed that a shortage of swine flu vaccine will result in fewer Canadians being inoculated this week than the federal government had originally planned.

"My reaction, and I think (that of) most public health people really, is disappointment in that we won't be able to immunize next week as many people as we hoped," Dr. David Butler-Jones told CTV's Question Period on Sunday.

On Friday, Butler-Jones announced that the vaccine's maker, GlaxoSmithKline, will make only 600,000 doses of the vaccine available across the country by the end of this week, instead of the planned two million. That is in addition to the six million doses already distributed over the last three weeks.

He said he was unaware of the shortage until Thursday night.

The announcement sparked fears of a vaccine shortage. Since vaccine clinics opened last week, Canadians have lined up by the thousands, overwhelming health care workers. Many clinics have had to cut off line-ups hours before closing time in order to control the crowds.

There have been complaints that healthy people have been visiting public health clinics to receive the vaccine as soon as possible, defying requests by public officials to allow high-risk groups to be immunized first.

Helen Humphrey has four children, one of whom has already contracted swine flu.

"My children are petrified," she said. "If any one of these children get sick and die, the people who have lied to get the shot, well I hope they really remember me."

Meanwhile, inmates in some provinces have already started receiving the vaccine, angering some Canadians.

On Saturday, health officials in Alberta announced they were suspending H1N1 vaccination clinics for the general public so they could concentrate on immunizing Albertans in high-risk groups.

Opposition Liberals called for the province's health minister, Rob Liepert, to resign following the decision.

In Quebec, health officials warned those not in high-risk groups to say away from vaccination centres this week.

Officials in Ontario announced on Sunday they will double the number of flu clinics in the province. They said they will also extend the clinics' hours in an effort to cut down on long lineups.

"Those who do have vaccine, I want to see it going into people's arms this week, I don't want people sitting on vaccine," said Dr. Arlene King, the province's top public health official.

Federal Health Minister Leona Aglukkaq blamed GlaxoSmithKline for the shortage, saying the company "over-estimated their amounts," but said she is still confident that every Canadian who wants the vaccine will eventually be able to get it.

"If you look at and compare per capita, we are well ahead in distributing the vaccine on a per capita basis than any other country," Aglukkaq told Question Period.

"I have confidence that every Canadian who wants to receive the vaccine will be able to by December."

Both Butler-Jones and Aglukkaq said the chaos surrounding the vaccine's rollout has a lot to do with the decision to distribute it to the provinces and territories as it came off the production line, rather than waiting for the full supply to be ready.

But she said the distribution of the vaccine is the responsibility of the provincial and territorial governments and refused to criticize how they are organizing their immunization campaigns.

She also refused to weigh in on a decision by Toronto Public Health to distribute some vaccine to a private health clinic, which charges its patients for health care services.

Aglukkaq did not answer a question of whether it was fair for a private clinic to inoculate paying customers while others stood in line, instead saying the decision to give the clinic vaccines was made at the local level.

In the wake of public outrage over that issue, the clinic said it would offer the vaccine to the general public.

According to Butler-Jones, there is now enough vaccine in circulation to inoculate about 60 per cent of Canadians in high-risk groups.

"It's a huge undertaking," Aglukkaq said. "This is the largest immunization campaign in the history of Canada. Thirty-three million people cannot receive the vaccine in seven days."

With a report from CTV's Roger Smith

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Lz in Edmonton
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I think the Canadian Government should SUE Glaxo for the short fall and any costs to the Health Care system. If you promise you can deliver and you don't, that is a breach of contract. They had over a year to get their production methods correct.


James the Nurse in Calgary
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The fact is high risk groups can go in Alberta. The manufactuer is sending enough for the high risk goups and never came through with as much as promised.


Jack Barrett, Corner Brook
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LzFromEdmonton, instead of suing Glaxo Smith Kline, the Canadian Government should impose a hefty fine for causing a vaccine shortage resulting in Canadian public health being jeopardized.Too bad the penalties might not hold up in court since contract related penalties are against public policy, including fines.In addition, because Leona Aglukkaq and Stephen Harper did not pressure Glaxo Smith Kline to start producing more H1N1 Vaccines again, I think Leona should either be suspended or fired for gross incompetence.Due to Leona's incompetence, Canada's public health is now at risk of further H1N1 infections, and the flu season hasn't even gotten into full gear yet.


William Fort McMurray, AB
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The Liberals seem to want to make political gains off of the loss of lives, it is dispicable. The Government across Canada are doing everything they can. The producer of the product over promised and it is delivered as it made. I am satisfied with the effort of all organizations from sea to shining sea.


Tim
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The vaccine is a waste of money cancel it.


M. Cameron
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If only there was a Canadian official who could DO something about it.


Buck, Renfrew, Ont.
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Blame someone. Don't take responsibility.This is par for the course. Canadians trusted the government & Harper has let them down. He is more interestedin photo-ops. No lineups for him.

David not in Alberta
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My dear William. If the opposition can't question the governments handling of this, who can?

Gabby in QC
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Those who are trying to ascribe blame should look elsewhere.From an LA TImes Oct. 31 story:“ … People are lining up at clinics and pestering their doctors for the vaccine, which is 12 million doses short of recent predictions. The country has about a fifth of what's needed to inoculate its most vulnerable populations. … ” The EU also is facing similar shortages because of the great demand. The more the media focuses attention on the H1N1 flu, the more demand grows.So, could we stop with the finger-pointing and try to remain calm, wait our turn for the vaccine, and ... gargle with boiled salt water (1 cup water to 1 tsp salt) the minute your throat starts to feel tickly.

noid
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She did not answer one single question


Steve from Toronto
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Maybe if the city of Toronto had a) stuck to the original plan for vaccinating people and b) only vaccinated those in high risk then the shortage would not be felt. Production schedules are planned well in advance. It was Toronto (as well as other areas) that started vaccinating people ahead of the pre-determined schedule. The panic caused by the H1N1 is actually crazy. A perfect example of mob mentality. Out of everyone standing in those long lines, less than 1% would have caught the flu and less then 0.01% of those people would have died. This is a waste of time and resources that could have been put to better use.

Portes
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It seems that everyine is blaming everyone. Do they realise how big an operation this was and how fast the flu vacine was made. I think that we all step back and take a deep breathe before assigning blame. The Liberals made a statement in the House the other day which I found especailly offensive. They stated that the Conservative Government had caused the deaths. Shame on you Bob Rae,no Government of any stripe would allow their people to die if they could help it . I feel sorry for the ones who have lost loved ones, especially the younger people. This is not a time for cheap political tricks, this is a time to work together

Marlina
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A huge vaccination campaign for what? For 5,000 deaths worldwide out of 50,000,000 deaths?? This melodrama is getting very interesting, glad I'm not getting this poison.


CYL
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Someone did not do their homework and need to take a project management course. All those who talk and make announcements do so without facts, figures and proper planning. What a disappointment to be paying these people soooo much money.


Rick in NB, Ste Marie
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For six months the health minister's office sat on their hands on informing the public, except for the cute little brochure on washing your hands. Now that it's the time for action, Leona is blaming Glaxo Smith Cline for the shortage. Does this sound like a competant misister to you? But then again, what kind of pool did the new reformed conservatives have when they picked their ministers ?


Steve from Toronto
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And one other thing - the 'shortage' is because the manufacturer had to switch over to make the vaccine that is safe for pregnant woman. Don't be fooled the governments knew the production schedule.The government (at all levels) knew that last week was scheduled to run the special vaccine and that the standard vaccine would not be made again until next week. All levels of government knew this long before it was pubic knowledge. What you have is governments defecting blame from themselves. The vaccination clinics last week were a mess and they used far more doses last week then was originally expected to be used. If the schedule says that 1 million doses will be used and instead 2 million are used, then of course you're going to have a shortage (figures are for illustration use only).This is a case of the government's left hand has no idea what its right hand is doing. Too many 'hands are in the pot' and the schedules are not being followed as expected.Anyone who feels the manufacturer should be blamed is thinking with their emotions (fear) and not with their head.


Colleen in BC
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I find it really hard to understand how the organization of dispensing the vaccine has been so mismanaged. Surely health officials in each province could have come up with reasonable guidelines to ensure against the huge lines in below freezing temperatures. I feel so sorry for those poor parents with toddlers who have been subjected to such mismanagement. How hard would it be to have the vaccination centers in community buildings with seating set up? Hand out numbers to those coming in so they can go to the washroom, get water or food, or change diapers while they wait. Once the seating is full, hand out numbers to those still waiting outside in line so that they can come back in an hour or two and don't have to stay there in the cold to wait. This would work and isn't rocket science.


The Other Lowell in BC
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Well the onus in this particular case is on the government to manage the file in a responsible manner. Don't put blame on Glaxo-Kline. The government (i.e. Health Ministry) is responsible for ensuring that the vaccination program has a proper time line, is properly supplied and the adequate communication to the public on the risks, benefits etc. They created a sense of urgency by telling people to get the shot which has created extraordinarily long lines. The government has failed on all fronts on this file and at the very least the minister in charge should take some responsibility although I guess in Harper's world, she probably deferred that responsibility to the PM.


Ed
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The problem as I see it is the Media focus on a Flu that is no more dangerous than any other year.My wife and I got the regular Flu shot and we do not intend to get the H1N1. The Use of the word "PANDEMIC" sounds too much like "EPIDEMIC" and has caused the long lineups at clinics. Too many people want to be first in line also.Relax Canada; this will ultimately prove to be no worse than any other year.


JLE
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I think the government is totally at fault, they put the fear in us to get the vaccine and then they turn around and say sorry you have to wait, if another child dies from this, it will be the government's fault.


Darrell
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It is unfortunate that our Health Care Professionals and the government is getting so much flak over the H1N1 vaccine. I for one appreciate the fact that the vaccine is being distributed, I think we owe so much thanks to the Health Care Professionals that are responding beyond the call of duty.I do not appreciate Bob Rae and the Media causing panic in our country in hopes of higher ratings and political gains.Remember people, political uproar equals news for the media, at the expense of innocent Canadians.Hey Bob Rae, Hey media, this panic mongering is so NOT COOL!!!!!


Alexis in Victoria
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If the clinics had stuck with the plan to only vaccinate people in high-risk groups, there wouldn't now be a shortage! It's the same situation all the time--the selfish general public only thinking about themselves and not about how their actions affect others who need something more than they do! I only hope there is enough to go around when we (health care workers--one of the high-risk group, BTW) are scheduled to get it!


Dianna Scott
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I found out from the clincic here in Abbotsford, BC that people were coming from different cities to get their H1N1 shot. How fair is that.This only means that the people here in my city will not be able to get the shot due to a shortage now from others coming here. Those people should have been turned away. If you are from Abbotsford than that is different. There sould have been enough vaccine sent for people here in Abbotsford.


JB in Calgary
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I don't know how people/Liberals are blaming the Federal Government. Isn't every Country getting the vaccine at the same time? How do we expect any company to keep up with that kind of demand?I blame whoever made the decision to say that only "high risk" people would get it, and then decide that nobody would be turned away. What do you expect?


JS
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Butler-Jones can have mine. I would not touch that poison.


Sandi
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If the non-priority people weren't taking the shots intended for priority people, we'd have enough to help the priority people. It's called Que-jumping (something that's happening a lot lately). A low priority person jumps the Que, and a high priority person suffers for it.


reece
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H1N1 vaccines will be available for the masses in December...well beyond the halfway mark of the flu season where probably most of us would have contracted the disease and recovered from it...will we get a refund for the the portion of the 50,000,000 orders or did this gov't allow a juicy clause in the agreement where it doesnt matter if we need the same order?I should have been a journalist because I always seem to ask the questions people are afraid to ask for fear of offending political parties of their choice.


Bill Akerley - Ottawa
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Many excuses, and plenty of blame are being spread around from every level. But, few worthwhile reasons to have scared people to death...force them to line-up for hours...and tell everyone there's a shortage. It's (always) someone else's fault it seems. Once again political expediency trumps the lessons learned from the SARS outbreak, and from all the planning for the Avian Flu that never was. Shame on us for being duped yet again into believing that politicians and bureaucrats have our best interests at heart.


JS
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For weeks health officals have been saying that high risk people should get their shots first. Then, when the vaccine becomes available, every Tom, Dick, and Harry in the low risk group get in line for their shots. What part of high risk don't they understand? The upcoming shortage is not the fault of the government, health officials, or the supplier. It is the fault of all the low risk people that got their shots ahead of the high risk people. If only the high risk people were getting their shots, there would be plenty of vaccines. So, all you low risk people that got your shots, stand up, pat yourselves on the back, and say thank you, and then say your welcome for all this mess you've caused.


bsue
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I am just wondering if the many ticked off and generally complaining commentators here are the same people that stated that they would not be getting the vaccine, and voted on previous polls that they felt that the H1N1 vaccination plan was an overreaction to a lot of media hype??


kaffi
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the government is trying to cover it's tracks by blaming others. NOT TRUE


Jay, Ottawa
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William Fort McMurray, AB said "The Liberals seem to want to make political gains off of the loss of lives, it is dispicable."You lost me there. I can't find any mention of the Liberals in that story.

Fred - Brandon MB
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I am thoroughly disgusted with the Liberals attempting to use the deaths of innocent people because of the world wide pandemic, H1N1, for politcial gain. This is the height of sleaziness! I will never speak or type the name of that former NDP Premier who has a knife poised to plunge into the back of Ignatieff. This is raw political opportunism, which seems to be the hallmark of this version of the Liberal Party. They seek power for power's sake, at all costs, no matter the collateral damage. Despicable, all of them!


Jeff
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There's no excuse for not having enough vaccine. Everyone knew about the problem a year ago. While the politicians are spindoctering, people will die because of gross incompetence. The government to plan correctly, but no one seems accountable. Even the opposition parties are doing a poor job of taking the government to task.


allan
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Canadians are whiners, most countries dont even have access to vaccinations or health care of any kind, and we complain about lineups! Embarassing, spoiled Canadians.

doug
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This falls on our government! They have known about this outbreak for a very long time and they should have done a better job for all of us. Utter incompetency! But watch how slimy the government spokesmen will get when they spin this one.Doug in Toronto


Judy Guelph
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Of course the government is to blame...the Health Minister has told us ad nauseum that she has been on top of this since last fall..that she has co-ordinated the distribution, etc with every province and territory, that everyone had a plan in place and that she was satisfied with the plans...she said the Harper government had everything under control......oops....Harper lost control .....oops.....the Minister is red-faced....ooops....Leona will be the scapegoat....Leona is being told: admit nothing, keep saying everything is going as planned...the public are idiots and won't remember what we told them last week. Get rid of these incompetents..their rookie status is painfully obvious.

David in Belleville
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There are lots of reasons why there isn't enough vaccine - do you know how long it takes to produce 50 million doses!!!?? Do you know how much that is? (Way too much by the way - we'll never use that many. It's ordering too much that annoys me the most.)This is the biggest mass immunization in the history of the world and people expect it all be done in a few minutes. The government is damned if they do and damned if they don't. Cut them all a break - the public is the ones who panic so flippin' easy. (And let's not blame the media either - learn to use your brain.)Everyone needs to relax. These people standing in line for 3 hours in the freezing rain are going to get sick from waiting to get the vaccine for the flu they were probably never going to get in the first place.Stay home and stay warm and see what happens. Once all the crazies are done, you can walk up and get your shot in 10 minutes or less. If it turns out you'll need it at all.


Bongs
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I have always wondered how people in power (especially politicians) misunderstand the undercurrent and concerns of the average citizen. For example the current tension excitement, frustration and anger among many Canadians with regard to the management processes of this vaccine cannot be considered an over reaction.The present wave of the pandemic is considered the second phase. Yet sloppy planning and execution procedures seem to represent the order of the day. After the country’s experience with the SARs and the first phase of the Swine flue, one would expect a more coordinated and coherent approach this time around by the relevant stakeholders.Finger-pointing on the shortages of supplies has ranged from limited supplies by manufacturers to accountability by the respective provinces and territories. I find it very surprising in this day and age that our system was not able to come up with an effective and sustainable strategy to facilitate access to this vaccine by every citizen. While prioritizing with emphasis on vulnerable groups is understandable, one wonders how even some members of these groups are yet to receive their fair share of the product. Reports through the various news media have indicated across the country that even those vulnerable groups which made a concerted effort to receive this vaccine were unable to. In some cases, they were even turned back either because the supplies were depleted or (believe it or not) clinics were closing down for the day.In circumstances like these, one (or decision makers) need to emphasize the importance of an effective National and sub-national strategy. This should necessarily include demand, supply, access, procurement, Quality assurance, warehousing and distribution. For our policy makers to simply express disappointment and expect solutions to evolve is difficult to understand. A situation like this has very little or no room for rhetoric. As such, it is inconceivable how we could have allowed manufacturers to make projections for our needs as indicated in this article. Projections by themselves can be very dicey and unreliable depending on the assumptions. To hand over such a task on a silver platter to a drug manufacturer is definitely difficult to understand. The bigger question at this stage is what are the lessons learned from the previous pandemics. One would have expected the wake-up call from the SARs to be a very convincing case study. This unfortunately doesn’t seem to be the case.


les
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I find it amazing how many Canadians are expecting a child, between the ages of 6 mts and 5 yrs and below the age of 65 with a chronic health condition. The shortage of the vaccine has more to do with the manipulation of the gullible by the media than the fault of any level of government or the local health authorities.


Sam Winsor
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For those posters who say 'the government have known about this for a very long time", and ,"they have known about this for over a year..." I say you are as dumb as a post!! Do your homework and don't add to the hysteria by inaccurate remarks. To produce as much vaccine as has been produced in in a very SHORT time is amazing. Yes there are many problems with the distribution but from my perspective there is no shortage of people to blame, not the least of which are those low-risk queue jumpers. Bad organization on the part of local health authorities must also be considered. But my candidates for the most blame are the "Chicken Little" politicians and a complicit media who try to advance their careers by spreading mass hysteria. The main pandemic of our time is the 'hysteria pandemic' . Wake up Canada! The sky is NOT falling in.


BobB Winnipeg
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So every Canadian will who wants to will "eventually" be able to receive the vaccine.But at the rate vaccines are being given here in Manitoba "eventually" means mid-May.It is pathetic. We can just be thankful this H1N1 did not turn out to be as virulent as originally expected.


Jon RN
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Why wouldn't the government have arranged to have more than one supplier of the vaccine? Seems like very poor planning on their part.As a health care worker I'm anxious to see the Conservatives' plan to deal with the jammed up emergency rooms and intensive care units in our country over the next few months. This could get very very ugly.


GTA
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This frenzy is what you get when you combine hype and stupidity Fact is more people die from the regular flu every year than H1N1. Best chance you have to get the flu or a cold is to go line up with a bunch of hypochondriacs.


BobB Winnipeg
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Part of the problem is that federal health officials, in conjunction with provincial health officials, wanted Glaxo Smith Kline to produce 2 types of vaccine, with production interrupted to produce the non-adjuncted vaccine for pregnant women.So the government can't sue Glaxo Smith Kline because the delays are partly the fault of Glaxo Smith Kline, and partly the result of the care that must be taken to produce a vaccine that doesn't kill people.


Demi
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Public Health dropped the ball. This was poor planning. Did they not think that there might be some panic if people started dying?Did they not continue seasonal flu vaccine manufacturing when they knew ahead of time that the flu of concern was H1N1?Did they not decide not to use existing infrastructure to deliver these shots (doctor's offices/schools) etc. to take some of the load? I know that in Mississauga doctors were told by Public Health that they would not be needing them to deliver H1N1 shots this year. Did they not learn anything from SARS?We will be vaccintated by December, isn't that potentially a little late?


JD
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As much as I am eager for my turn to come to get vaccinated, I have to give our Canadian health planners a break here. Only last week we were hearing that 50% or more of us were not even intending to be vaccinated. Secondly, I just can't believe when I see coverage of the long lineups that we are all respecting the priority scheduling. Maybe, in hindsight, saying that no one would be turned away was a big mistake, but I for one would have thought that a handful of extra people would not be a problem. Who knew that hundreds, even thousands would show up? Let's calm down, wait our turns as we have been asked to do, and support one another through this!


French Canadian Chick
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We already are in the 3rd week of the second wave of the virus. By the time ''the last people'' will be vaccinated in December, we will be at the end of the bell curve, much past the peak period of illness. Everyone knew that this virus would make a comeback in the fall. There should have been better preparedness and less red tape. People should have been vaccinated in September with a system nuch better than the one being implemented at the moment. Many people, such as myself, got the darn thing before they could have full immunity from the vaccine. I am glad to be here to tell about it. Unfortunately, not everyone is as lucky.


Alberta RN
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If the clinics had actually stuck to only vaccinating "high risk" individuals, they wouldn't be in this predicament. If they had enforced the rules, and put out the word that anyone who shows up and isn't high-risk they will be turned away, there wouldn't have been the huge line ups and now the shortage. Why even make a "high risk" priority if it's not going to be enforced?


Catherine
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The media should be reporting that many non-critical people are showing up and receiving the vaccine shots. From our experience, my husband required the vaccine as he falls in the cronic (heart disease) group. So when we showed up, whole families were lining up and receiving the handful of the bracelets. No one actually screened them the non-critical ones our.In our situation, only my husband got it, as the rest of us did not fall in the critical group.So I believe that at this point, the critical group should be vaccined - if it wasn't for the selfish, me-firsters. All I can say - shame on those (that are not in the critical group) - I hope you feel that you are special!


Maureen
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People seem to have a very strange view of what the federal government is responsible for and what the provincial governments are responsible for. The feds did their job - secured the vaccine in adequate doses (that doesn't mean it will all come at once), approved the vaccine as safe, and with the provinces and other international bodies, identified priority groups to get the vaccine first and the finally distributed it to the provinces. The provincial governments are responsible for making sure people get the vaccine. Their job is made difficult by the ill-informed who demand that they be served right now, right away and are egged on by the media who are only looking for headlines and pictures. The media has been hyping this flu since last spring and has created a lot of panic to the point that people who are not on the priority lists are demanding it with a 'me, me, me' attitude - that is disgusting. If you are not in an at-risk or health personnel group you were never going to get the the vaccine until mid-November - so chill out and shut up!! And for the media to be out there interviewing people waiting in line ups - the only purpose to that is to create more anxiety.


RZ
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If governments wanted to ensure that the H1N1 vaccine went only to high-risk individuals first, then why would there be messages on Toronto's radio stations saying that everyone should get the H1N1 flu shot, even if they are young and healthy?But seriously, this H1N1/swine flu scare is completely overblown. If I'm not mistaken, less than 2000 people died from this flu so far, and that pales in comparison to the number of deaths associated with the Hong Kong Flu of 1973 (3 million) and the Spanish Flu of 1918 (50 million). And yet the media freaks out and governments go gung ho on mass immunization programs?


Mark (Wellington County, ON)
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Will the media just get a grip! I was watching CTV Toronto Sunday newscast with the apocryphal coverage of long line ups and one week of lower supply of vaccine, and then I switched over to MCTV Northern Ontario and a report of a well-organized flu shot clinic in North Bay with 15 minute waits and people satisfied at what the North Bay-Parry Sound Health Unit is doing. Could the Toronto folks look up and see that there are some public health units and professionals that can actually organize this kind of thing and ask some better questions, rather than whipping up flu hysteria!


Frankie Corbin
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The government knew about this ahead of time, because they're the ones dishing out the contracts. They also built up the fear and anxiety in the public so that as soon as these joke clinics opened up, people would queue en masse. I personally don't believe in the flu shot, but for those people who want it, the way it should have been done is how you normally do it: through your family doctor. Now the demand is building up to a frenzy, and that's what the government wants.


Peter Jones
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As I see it the Federal Government orders from a large company that states how much they will produce so on that assumption the Federal Government project figures for immunization. The Provinces start early, do not follow the guidlines then blame everyone else. Yes the Federal Government was cought out with lower production but if the Provinces had followed direction they were given we would not be in this big of mess. Pregnant women, children and people in high risk groups first. I ask has this always been the case? A resounding no.


John in B.C.
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Again cheap politics, how low will they go? How would they themself have done better. Come on folks get a grip on realety. Goverment and health officials are working flat out to avoid a epidemic in a very short time. what would they gain in not doing so. Give them a little better then this low blow criticism.

Judy Guelph
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Stop blaming the media! The blame lies with the Federal Health Minister who appears before us on a daily basis ensuring us that there will be 50 million doses available..enough for everyone who wants one. She assured us that she is working side by side with her partners in all the provinces and territories... that all the plans for delivery are in place... obviously the plans she approved were inadequate. The Health Minister created this monster by her daily photo ops : hyping the risk, urging everyone to "protect" their loved ones by getting the shot... Perhaps she should have stuck to her original plan to have the vaccine available the first week of November... rushing such an important health delivery proved disastrous.

Marc in Ottawa
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I'm doing my part, I'm not getting any flu shot because I know swine flu is a bunch of BS. When its death toll is higher than the regular flu, then maybe I'll think about it.


Ian
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All those who want to blame the government over this are sounding like idiots. If Glaxo can't produce enough vaccine, how is that the Conservatives fault.


Gerald McIvor
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This is another example of the long line of we have everything under control position of the Stephen Harper Party. The Tainted meat, the Isotope shortage and now the H1N1 vaccine shortage. It is strange the Prime Minister is strangley silent on the vaccine shortage. Where is loudmouth Baird? No plan B means no vision for this reactive government. We must elect a proactive government next time we go to the polls...


Alex in Whitby
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The Ontario government knew there wasn't enough vaccine when they scheduled only 1 clinic in Whitby open only 6 hours 6 days a week.Why wasn't the media questioning this last week when so few clinics were opened.


Vicki
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I guess our Government thinks the more people who catch the H1N1, the less shots that are needed!..The bottom line with Governments is money!


Catwoman 37 in Ottawa
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Well, one thing I think the federal govt should be doing is help the provinces get more clinics open ASAP, so that way there is not these 2- 8 hour waiting periods.Stupid waiting that long if you ask me. Why can't people just got their local clinics, or family physicians to get them done? Or maybe it is time to let the schools, and the high schools to give the kids and teens the shots.Wouldn't it be faster?


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Ed Commented:The Use of the word "PANDEMIC" sounds too much like "EPIDEMIC" and has caused the long lineups at clinicsNWO replies: The term Pandemic is an accurate term. Pandemic is an Epidemic, gone "viral" to encircle the globe. The prefix Pan is derived from the Greek term "meaning "everything


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