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It turns out Canada and the U.S. are not recovering from the recession like they thought. The Canadian Taxpayers Federation calculates that the federal debt will hit half a trillion dollars by Sunday. At the same time, U.S. President Barack Obama raised eyebrows when talking about dipping back into recession.
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Kevin Gaudet from the Canadian Taxpayers Federation says a deficit action plan is needed, much like the federal economic action plan, in order to lift the burden off of taxpayers.

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Date: Wed. Nov. 18 2009 10:42 PM ET

The federal debt will jump back over the half-trillion mark this Sunday evening, according to the Canadian Taxpayers Federation.

The last time the federal government's debt was that high was in October 2003. It first hit $500 billion in August 1994 and reached an all-time high of $540 billion in 2000 before it began declining.

The watchdog group says the federal debt will make the jump back over the mark at 10:56:53 p.m. ET on Sunday. The federation tracks the debt on a Web clock.

The federal debt, which does not include municipal or provincial debt, works out to $14,880.39 for every person in the country, says Kevin Gaudet, the group's director.

With the recession and the Conservative government's massive stimulus spending, federal debt is rising at a pace of $1,772.58 a second, he adds.

"The problem with stimulus spending is multiple: we're seeing massive deficits that future taxpayers have to pay off and there is also a concern now there might be inflationary pressure," Gaudet told CTV News Channel. "It would be better for the government to turn off the spending taps."

"We've heard enough of stimulus plans and we need now to have some deficit reduction plans," he said at a news conference Wednesday.

"Canadians need a deficit action plan and we need it now."

He said the current debt weighs heavy on the shoulders of future generations of Canadians.

"The mountainous federal debt problem amounts to fiscal child abuse, as both current and future generations will be required to pay it off."

With files from The Canadian Press

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JPC
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I will just cut to the chase and say don't even begin to blame this on the Conservatives. The Liberals wanted even MORE stimulus spending which would have created an even bigger deficit and debt. There, now it's out in the open.


GHW
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The smart thing to do would be to raise the GST back up to 7% until the debt is paid down. Totally justified what with this recession. I voted for Harper in the last two elections but not because of his promise to lower the GST and I suspect this was the case for many others. Lowering the GST was one of this governments mistakes.RAISE THE GST!!!


Joe
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So it reached a high of $540 billion under Liberal rule. How convenienent.


Ed
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That's a lotta loot; now please tell us how much is coming in !


Vic
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The sadness thing is that Harpe free granted $10,000,000,000 to the impotent IMF and pouring $15,000,000,0000 into American's unwinning war. No solution is solution, as Tories have drastically degraded our education, health care and unemployment. Deficit, deficit, where are we now?


The Other Lowell in BC
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A heavy burden indeed. The largest deficit in Canada's history. That will be on Steven's record of achievement as PM. I personally think that as far as the stimulus goes there could have been more creative solutions to stimulate the economy as opposed to just throwing money at it. One big one that springs to mind is developing better trade relationships to stimulate demand for Canadian goods and services. Steven's current asian trip is far too little and far too late. He should have been doing this 2 years ago. Why did it take him so long to plan a visit to China one of the largest markets in the worlds with one of the strongest economies. Yes government will have to tighten its belt down the road to reduce the deficit which means fewer services. It will definitely mean putting the GST back up to 7 or 8 % to get additional revenue. To think when harper came into office there was a 12 billion dollar surplus. With a little more vision, and foresight the conservatives could have softened the blow from the recession.


$50 billion, $500 billion it's just an extra '0'
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$55 billion deficit for this year? Hah that's nothing - wait until the Conservative-funded CTF hears what the deficit will turn out to actually be later this year. And to think they could have spent a lot of that money on new Green start-ups - companies that would both pave the way for new jobs/industries in Canada and help reduce pollution at home and worldwide. Instead Harper and Flaherty decided to just pave roads.


wreck76
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"amounts to $14,880.39 for every man, woman and child in the country"so that adds up to just shy of $60k for my family. still less that my other debts. doesn't seem so bad really.


Craig in BBY BC
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Lowell in BC , give us all a break. Was Harper responsible for the GLOBAL financial mess? The only reasdon there were these large deficits was due to overtaxation by the fiberals..


Doug
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I'm so sick of the partisan hacks that come on here trying to blame one party or another. ALL of the political parties are responsible for this mess not one MP has spoken up on these issues. Its not just the stimulus spending either there are structural deficits being run. As a conservative voter and former party member I ask my fellow conservative minded Canadians why the heck they are so in love with this government which becomes more centre left every day.


Graeme
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JPC, I don't blame the current deficit on the Conservatives.However, it is inexcusable that Flahrety has absolutely no plan to reduce the deficit in a reasonable time-frame and is lying to Canadians about how easy it will be to get out of. I'm not saying it needs to start now, but we need to get some plans in place so as we come out of the recession we can get out of deficit relatively quickly.The current plan of "let growth take care of it" seems unrealistic and given Flahrety's record on predictions, I'll trust those like Kevin Page who aren't pre-occupied with trying to get a majority government.


Raj
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I can deal with this.We paid down the debt, to the tune of bilions.My taxes did not go up, and that didnt bother me too much. I can only hope they have a plan to get us out of debt, befofe the tax me I Canadian libs are ever close enhough to power.


charlie
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"Canadians need a deficit action plan and we need it now." That sounds reasonable to me. Would you guys at the CTF like to share any ideas with us, or just continue to complain?


tf
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to RajThe reason you didn't feel the debt being paid down by Conservatives - was becasuse it came from surplus - left by those Libs you seem to hateLibs left the GST at 7% and lowered income taxes - so that you the Cdn could chose to save/invest/spendBut remember your comments - when taxes will have to rise so that future government can pay down debt to ensure the federal treasury has the capacity to provide and ensure ALL Canadians have access to such fundamentals as healthcare - homecare - education - proper investments to strengthen our economy - jobs - protect and defend our environment - agriculture - food security/safetyAll these important aspects to a free society are in jepardy when the cut/slash/debt riden Cons' run this country. - run Global economiesVery Concerned Canadian


Wade Ens
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Trouble with minority governments too much spending as they need the support of the left.


T
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$540 billion in 1994 $500 billion in 2009, can we get these numbers relative to inflation....seems to me $500 billion in 2009 is peanuts compared to $540 billion in 1994.Oh, and yes I do believe Harper has a plan - what do you liberals think he's doing in Asia????


meeka
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given the current economic and taxing model fluctuations in the economy will continue into the foreseeable future. If the gov'ts, and I mean both Libs and Cons want to stabilize the economy and generate growth, then give those with the funds a reason to spend and thereby generate demand, which will then generate jobs, jobs, jobs, and tax revenue, tax revenue, tax revenue, which will then, with any fiscally prudent gov't in power, would pay down the debt, and facilitate greater economic growth, lower taxes etc. So rather than taxing people to death with political shortsightedness think long term and make some smart decisions for a change. But sadly, this will never happen as there are too may, and I do mean too many, narrow-minded political agenda at play.


FreakAlert
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Ask yourselves, who has 1/2 trillion dollars to lend out?


Jeff
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Comments on the blog about raising the GST... are you kidding me!!! Do you live in Ontario?? With the HST coming we are even in worse shape then before.. an insult to Ontarians. Here is the solution for the debt - give Canadians an opportunity to pay down the debt on there return through a donation, giving them a full deduction against there income for what they donate (not a percentage). Long term this country will save more in interest alone, and confidence from other countries wanted to invest


MD
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I've read that the majority of the $500 billion debt Canada owes is simply interest owed to the banks. If Canada, along with our western allies, had the ability to print our own money, we wouldn't have to owe any interest to private banks who print our money for us, we would never be in debt like this. Every country has the right to print its own money interest free, so why aren't we doing it? The Bank of Canada is a private institution and every decision they make is made behind closed doors for no one else to know about. We need transparency and integrity at the utmost level when dealing with our currency. The best way to do that is to have elected officials who will be accountable and responsible for any wrong doing or corruption that may occur. In the United States they had a government controlled central bank (Bank of United States of America) all the way up until the Federal Reserve (private bank) was brought into power illegally in 1913. People are rapidly waking up to this. For example, Texas Republican Congressman Ron Paul has started a bill which would allow the federal government the ability to audit the Federal Reserve (which has never happened in its history). It's very close to passing in congress and I hope it happens soon, the sooner the better.


Louis Guy
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And what would the deficit be if there was no underground economic activities !!!


Scott Stelmaschuk
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Take everything the CTF says with a grain of salt...In most cases, you need at least 2 - 3 tablespoons. This is an organization that once compared the Liberal Governments from 1993 - 2006 to the Stalinist Regime of the Soviet Union...The fact of the matter is, the CTF is not blaming the Government for bad policy, it's only blaming them for having the audacity to create stimulus spending. The CTF seems like they'd prefer Canada not to pump money into infrastructure and job creation, but rather tax cuts. We've seen that strategy in practice in the United States under the Bush Administration, and you can see where their economy is today.The fact of the matter is that the CTF has their talking points like any other group, and claims to be acting in the best interests of Canadians, but we all know they're a right leaning organization that once had Jason Kenney as a member; and that all they really care about is promoting a right-wing agenda without really being concerned for Canada's best interest.


Matt
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tf:That surplus you talk about the Liberals leaving? You forgot to mention how the Liberals created that surplus: They STOLE $54 Billion from the EI fund and transfered it to General Revenue.


MD
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I've read that the majority of the $500 billion debt Canada owes is simply interest owed to the banks for printing our money. If Canada, along with our western allies, had the ability to print our own money, we wouldn't have to owe any interest to private banks who print our money for us, we would never be in debt like this. Every country has the right to print its own money interest free, so why aren't we doing it? The Bank of Canada is a private institution and every decision they make is made behind closed doors for no one else to know about. We need transparency and integrity at the utmost level when dealing with our currency. The best way to do that is to have elected officials who will be accountable and responsible for any wrong doing or corruption that may occur. In the United States they had a government controlled central bank (Bank of the United States of America) all the way up until the Federal Reserve (private bank) was brought into power illegally in 1913. People are rapidly waking up to this. For example, Texas Republican Congressman Ron Paul has started a bill which would allow the federal government the ability to audit the Federal Reserve (which has never happened in its history). It's very close to passing in congress and I hope it happens soon, the sooner the better.


Red X
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JPC; nice try but the Liberals approved of the budget with the $33.7 billion Deficit. All the additions funds is solely the responsibility of the Conservatives....


History On Debt
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"So it reached a high of $540 billion under Liberal rule. How convenienent."This is not totally correct - in fact, the worst of that debt came at the hands of the Cons... at the hands of the last leader Mal-ruin-ey.In just 8 years, the Cons TRIPLED our national debt... compared to ALL of it in the history of this country. And thats not 30 million or 300 million... but almost 300 BILLION dollars in 8 years. The Libs then not only fixed that in 10 years, but actually made surpluses BEFORE there was an actual *boom*.I'm no fan of the Liberals and the NDP scare the begeejers out of me, but the Cons are just that - Cons.


Stu from London
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I will just cut to the chase and say don't even begin to blame this on the Conservatives. The Liberals wanted even MORE stimulus spending which would have created an even bigger deficit and debt. There, now it's out in the open.
Do you have any proof that the Liberals supported a higher deficit? Because, the way I remember it, the approved a deficit of 28 B, yet the Tories let it balloon to 60....


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