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CTV National News: Roger Smith on the testimony
A senior diplomat has accused the Canadian government of knowingly turning over detainees to Afghan prison torturers, and then covering it up. The testimony came from Richard Colvin, currently at the head of intelligence at the Canadian embassy in Washington.
Power Play: Hawn, Dosanjh & Harris
The Parliamentary Secretary to the Defense Minister questions why diplomat Richard Colvin did not speak to the commanding general when he had many opportunities to do so. Opposition critics accuse the Conservatives of trying to discredit Colvin's honest, first-hand account of alleged torture.
CTV News Channel: Alex Neve on the allegations
The secretary general of Amnesty International Canada says a potential firestorm is brewing over the allegations and he says the issue is a legal matter and may put many of Canada's international treaties on the line.
CTV News Channel: Tom Clark on question period
The Liberals says the government had prior knowledge of detainee torture in Afghanistan and a CTV correspondent says it is hard to dismiss the evidence that Intelligence officer Richard Colvin has reported to have about the allegations.
Question period: Liberal MPs question the Tories
Liberal MPs grill the Conservatives during question period on Wednesday over whether the government knew of detainee torture in Afghanistan and tried to cover-up the matter.
CTV News Channel: Discussing the fate of detainees
B.C. Liberal MP Ujjal Dosanjh and Kory Teneycke, the PM's former communications director, discuss reports that diplomats were ordered to keep quiet on torture allegations, and how communication within the diplomatic system works.

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I guess the simple question is what kind of Canada do we want to have? Do we want a Canada that follows the protocols and treaties of the Geneva Conventions, or do we want a Canada that does not? Do we want a Canada that attempts to suppress efforts to investigate possible breaches of the Geneva Conventions? If Canadians violated the Geneva Conventions, they need to be held accountable and we need to correct any of our systems that allowed the breaches to be covered up and to occur in the first place.

Bill in the Hat

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Afghan prisoners were tortured, diplomat says

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Date: Wed. Nov. 18 2009 10:32 PM ET

Afghanistan's intelligence service tortured every detainee handed over to them by Canadian soldiers in 2006-2007, including innocent people, a federal official testified today.

Intelligence officer Richard Colvin, who was the political officer at the Canadian-run provincial reconstruction base when Canadian troops began transferring prisoners to Afghan authorities three years ago, told a special Commons committee that many of those prisoners were also likely innocent.

"According to our information, the likelihood is that all the Afghans we handed over were tortured," he said.

"For interrogators in Kandahar, it was standard operating procedure."

According to Colvin, Afghans detained by Canadian troops and then transferred to Afghan custody in 2006 and early 2007 were beaten and suffered electric shocks.

Over a three-month period in 2006, the Red Cross tried to warn Canadian military officials in Kandahar about the abuse, but no one would "even take their phone calls," Colvin said.

He also testified that that majority of prisoners were not "high-value targets" like Taliban commanders. Instead, many were farmers or peasants who were simply "in the wrong place at the wrong time."

"In other words, we detained, and handed over for severe torture, a lot of innocent people," he testified.

Colvin criticized the civilian and military leadership for the legal framework that made the transfers possible -- he was careful not to blame Canadian soldiers working on the ground.

He also told the committee that he was later ordered not to write about prisoners in his reports, which were eventually "censored."

After learning of torture allegations, Colvin wrote to Ottawa throughout 2006 and into the following year, warning of torture in Afghan jails.

The reports he wrote were widely circulated in the Foreign Affairs and Defence departments, yet senior members of the Conservative government -- including Prime Minister Stephen Harper -- say they did not see them in 2006.

Last month, Defence Minister Peter MacKay promised to investigate how far up the chain those reports went.

On Wednesday, Conservatives attacked Colvin's credibility and the evidence he personally gathered from detainees.

"It's all coming from people who are trained to give false information," MP Laurie Hawn said of the detainees.

"It might not have been torture; it might have been some other sort of injury," said MP Peter Goldring.

Colvin was previously subpoenaed to appear before a more limited probe by the independent Military Police Complaints Commission earlier this year. But Colvin was limited in what he could say after federal lawyers placed a national security gag on much of his testimony.

Liberal MP Ujjal Dosanjh, the party's defence critic, said the special committee on Afghanistan seeks to "look at the Colvin reports and reports about allegations of torture and what the government did with them."

"The need for the committee to hear this matter arose because we think the hearing of the Military Police Complaints Commission, with respect to allegations of torture, was being obstructed, either directly or indirectly by the government," Dosanjh told CTV News Channel from Ottawa on Wednesday morning.

But Kory Teneycke, the prime minister's former communications director, said that the Conservative government "put in place many steps to ensure the adequate treatment" of Afghan prisoners.

"The conditions in those prisons aren't going to look like the golf and country club-style prisons that the Liberals and NDP favour here in Canada. They are going to look like what one would expect in Afghanistan," said Teneycke, when appearing on CTV News Channel at the same time as Dosanjh.

Furthermore, the government had a firm belief that "reasonable steps were taken and reasonable safeguards put in place," to keep any detainees safe, Teneycke said.

In Question Period in the House of Commons Wednesday, Liberal MPs continued to accuse the Harper government of receiving and ignoring reports of torture and deplorable conditions in Afghan prisons.

Liberal MP Bob Rae said Colvin wrote a so-called "action memorandum" after a visit to Afghanistan in 2006, in which he found the condition of Afghan detainees "to be serious, imminent and alarming."

"The simple fact of the matter is, is that there was an 18-month period -- not a month, not six weeks, not eight weeks -- 18 months in which this government had information and did nothing and performed no action whatsoever," Rae said. "How can you explain 18 months of inaction dealing with something as serious as first-hand evidence of torture by a Canadian public official?"

MacKay responded that the Tories acted to improve prison conditions on recommendations from Canadian officials two-and-a-half years ago.

"We improved upon regular visitations to see that conditions were in fact improving," MacKay said. "We invested in the prison system infrastructure itself, we improved upon the transfer arrangement, we continue to make those investments."

The torture issue was reignited Tuesday when The Canadian Press reported that defence and foreign affairs sources claimed the Conservative government ordered them to hold back information in their own reports in 2007.

The unnamed sources told The Canadian Press that the government feared the backlash that would result from graphic reports, even if they were censored.

The orders to quiet the story were given over the telephone by Privy Council Office senior officials, the sources said, and reinforced in follow-up conferences between Ottawa and Kabul, as well as Ottawa and Kandahar.

In Question Period, Dosanjh asked: "Who in the government issued this order, why is this government creating a culture, an un-Canadian culture, of secrecy and cover-up around an issue as serious as torture?"

Peter Kent, Minister of State for Foreign Affairs, called the question "outrageous" and said there was "no evidence" that the government ordered diplomats to withhold information about torture.

With files from The Canadian Press

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montrealer
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Where there is SMOKE there is FIRE. I understand many canadians (mainly but not limited to neo-cons) don't care about people in third world countries, BUT how can you not honestly wonder what else is going on with this government.I used to be a progressive conservative and quickly realized that the new conservative party was more regressive than progressive and decided to become an independant.My question to the neo-cons and old-cons, is how can you trust this government. We have seen time and time again, the PMO and his staff screen questions from reporters, penalize reporters who run ads that run contrary to their beliefs, please someone explain it to me, I really want to know. Dion was a disaster for the liberals, too far left for me, but I don't know what to do. Don't really know Ignatieff that well, please tell me why i should support the regressive conservatives!!!


Doug in Halifax
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Send Peter MacKay to the Hague. Pull the troops out now!

Raj
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Cue the scary music. Finally the libs have something to go on about, other than the isotype shortage. Oh, thats right, they stopped that. Alright. something other then the economy, oh they stopped that as well. Okay the H1N 1 crisis, no that's stopped as well..So now we have this. I am sure it will all come out, but not before Rae & the libs have their daily whine about it.

Mike
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David Mulroney needs to be fired, NOW! Harper appoints him ambassador to China. Unbelievable!!!!


Wayne
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So far all I read is an unhappy former diplomat, then a bunch of cc'ed email messages and lots of Allegations re: no proof of anything no evidence only trusted anonymous bla bla bla - in other words folks no story just another part of a war in a foreign country and several years old now so who cares - time to move on and deal with real problems. Right now the only purpose of this committee is to try to score political points - who cares. I am much more interested in the trade deal with India and who knows maybe one with China in a bit.

The Dude
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"the majority of prisoners were not "high-value targets" like Taliban commanders."Are you serious? The military is only supposed to get information on where to find Taliban Commanders, by detaining mostly Taliban Commanders? Of course the majority aren't going to be Commanders.... there aren't that many out there to begin with!!I have no idea what anyone expects the Military to do... we can't detain them, and we can't shoot them.

Zhimmy
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Yesterday these guys were planting roadside bombs. So I am upset why?

J from On
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This story is very misleading in the way that it is written. "How can you explain evidence of 18 months of inaction dealing with something as serious as first-hand evidence of torture by a Canadian public official?" The Canadian Forces have gone to great lengths in providing security and now help Afghans take over their own security. I completely agree that the torture is wrong but where do we draw the line? Do we follow the US and bring all these captured taliban back to our own Canadian Gitmo? What are the costs behind this? Is the Canadian public going to support the protection of arrested detainees being provided a safe haven on their tax dollar? I can tell you that Afghanistan is a country that has one of the most advanced communication networks in the world. Even if the CF released these individuals, someone is always watching and would find these people later (AGAIN NOT CONDONING HERE). Colvin has to understand that there are limitations to what we can do and what we can provide. You want Canadians providing security for prisoners.... fine.... but where are these soldiers coming from and where is the money coming from.


Ken - Calgary
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And here come the Neo-con supporters, helping our lying dictator of a PM spin doctor this story. Funny how you CONs will believe ANYTHING that slanders Liberals, but as soon as it becomes evident that Harper is a slimeball, all you do is dismiss, dismiss, dismiss. Pathetic.


B. Kelley, Ontario
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Even if torture was used by Afghans on the Taliban and suspected terrorists so what? Those people are our enemies and any intelligence information that can be extracted that will save the life of even one innocent person in the western world justifies its use. Liberals need to remember that their enemies are not the Conservatives, Bloc or NDP but the radical terrorists who would cut their throats in a nano-second if given a chance. Its time to drop the hand-wringing over how we fight a war and start worrying about what we do to win it. There's no such thing as a "gracious winner " or a "good loser" in war. There's only the victorious and the vanquished.

J.
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Not our problem. Afghans are the ones who did the torture they are the ones who should be getting the blame.

dusty - ottawa
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This seems to an ongoing problem in Afghanistan and yet Canada is at the receiving end of the stick for the problems as usual. This was happening under the Liberal regime before the Conservatives inherited it, and they did absolutely NOTHING about it because the Liberals had a majority and just brushed it all off. Now those same Liberals are being critical of the PC's for being unable to stop it. This is the usual Liberal point scoring rhetoric again. Is CANADA suppose to hold Afghanistan's hand for everything. Pull the troops out now and let them handle their own problems. I think Canada has done enough for the Afghans, even though it was the Liberals who sent the troops there in the first place.

Ben, Edmonton
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I expect this kind of garbage from Americans but never thought Canadians would be involved. It's downright shameful. Anyone who isn't a worthless partisan hack ought to be questioning that mission bigtime. This kind of behavior is nothing short of a national embarassment.

charlie
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"Every prisoner was tortured" - or was it "likely was tortured according to our information" - does this chap really know or is he surmising, possibly with some degree of certitude? Innocent persons were handed over too according to his testimony - but these "innocent" persons were caught by our troops in a combat zone, so how innocent they were is at least questionnable. The bottom line is that this chap really does not know anything for absolutely certain - he is surmising. Possibly being not listened to has something to do with all this. Interetsingly the sources that refer to the instructions given in 2006 and 2007 were quiet until now. How reliable are these "sources"? Why did this information not come up before now? I always wonder about "sources" which are not identified. Hopefully this is a case where the sources are actual and not a composit of ifformation gleaned from rumour and innuendo - it would be helpful for the reader to know where this information is arising in order to qualify it. If this chap were to follow the example of some US "whistle-blowers" and now try to run for political office, I will be very concerned - not to mention suspicious. In the meanwhile, the Opposition will try to wring any small advantage out of this - no matter how illusory or convoluted.


MN_Edmonton
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Who Cares? I am tortured every day by listening to Liberal whiners. What next? H1N1 shots for all Afghan Prisoners.

Greg in Cambridge
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So terrorists were inconvenienced.....and it matters how?


ronin
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CONs who cover up go to jail. 'nuff said.

David in Dartmouth
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SO WHAT!!!!So what is the big deal??!!!Our forces caught them, and handed them off to the indiginous government.It is the Afghan's problem not ours....but hey....the Neville Chamberlain academic do-gooders will undermine us each time every time.Does anyone think that for one second that the Taliban thugs who executed 25 Afghan soldiers when they were overun, would give any of our troops or aid workers the same fair and equal consideration?......NOT!!!!They ( Taliban) are at least alive and have their lives!By the way.... just ask the families of the un- armed aid workers murdered by the Taliban, how they feel.I am not a proponent of torture as that is reprehensible by any standard, but PLEASE DO NOT HANG THAT ON THE BACK OF OUR TROOPS!!!!THEY DESERVE BETTER!!!


cam
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Anyone defending this behavior is either a paid hack or so biased their view point is irrelevant to most. This is a disgusting attempt to cover up human rights violations to protect political behinds. It should be condemned from coast to coast to coast regardless of party loyalty.

LDL in ONT
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I must be a cold hearted B@$#@&D. I don't really mind them being tortured.

Sheree, BC
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It's very sad and concerning to read comments stating, "who cares" and supporting actions on the part of the government of Canada which knowingly put people under our care (and yes, prisoners of war are under our care!!) in danger. Increasingly, Mr. Harper and his government bring Shame to Canada's legacy as a leader in speaking for and protecting human rights. And Shame on those who would support this!!


Charlie in NS
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First of all, how could Colvin or the Red Cross possibly know that every Taliban prisoner (or anyone else) was tortured. Second of all, I'm with about 90% of Canadians who, read my lips, DON'T CARE, what happens to them.


Bill in the Hat
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I guess the simple question is what kind of Canada do we want to have? Do we want a Canada that follows the protocols and treaties of the Geneva Conventions, or do we want a Canada that does not? Do we want a Canada that attempts to suppress efforts to investigate possible breaches of the Geneva Conventions? If Canadians violated the Geneva Conventions, they need to be held accountable and we need to correct any of our systems that allowed the breaches to be covered up and to occur in the first place.

Open your Eyes
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If you support torture than you are NOT a Canadian! Get the heck out of my country and join the barbarians you love to pretend you are superior to. Our troops sacrificed their lives throughout the last CENTURY to prevent us from becoming like this. NEVER before in Canadian history has our government been accused of assisting in torture. It disgusts me and sickens me to see all the hypocrites attempt to justify these shamefull acts.

Toronto Guy.
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Shame. Shame. Shame. I agree that this government is trying to hide something. Especially when you penalize the press the way Harper has. Government should be transparent and this one has not been in many areas. I hope voters remember that in the next election which might be just around the corner. I hope they also remember that Stephen Harper prefers to have timbits rather than being on the podium to address other leaders. What an embarrassment.

Rob
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They talk about them being tortured and its not right, but its okay for them to kill our soldiers and kill innocent children. Give your head a shake.

Bill in BC
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And by what stretch of the imagination do you think that we should be dictating to the lawful civilian government of Afghanistan? International law and Canadian law says that prisoners who are NOT POWs, i.e. talliban criminals, must be handed over to the local civilian authorities to be dealt with under their laws. Non-story unless you are a bleeding heart liberal/socialist fool.

Survey Time
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The people claiming this is not an issue or that they don't care if Afghans are tortured . . . are Conservative Party followers. Let's see if you agree that Cons are soft on torture. Thumbs Up if you think it's the Cons who don't object to the torture. Thumbs Down if you think otherwise.

Chris Coutts
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What Mr. Colvin may fail to realize, is that the government of Canada and the Canadian Armed Forces, acting on orders have done exactly as they were supposed to in treatment of and handing over to civilian authorities people who are acting directly against our national interests. Spare me the liberal rhetoric about mistreatment of foreign nationals, I'd rather see a few less Canadian casualties and stand with my government instead of criticizing it.

AlbertaBoy111
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"Even if torture was used by Afghans on the Taliban and suspected terrorists so what? Those people are our enemies" You ever hear of the Geneva Convention before? If we toss that out we may as well just start using mustard gas on them. If torture is ok you cannot draw a line anywhere. We are better than them because we don't torture. If we knowingly hand people over to be tortured we may as well be doing it. "We must all fear evil men, but there is one evil we must fear most, and that is the indifference of good men."

simon
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If TORTURE in Afghanistan is acceptable to the Canadian government, can somebody please tell me what is the purpose of us being there? Just pull the troops out NOW and let the Afghans get on with their Barbaric activities. I am also looking forward to reading how the Conservatives will attempt to explain this COVER UP!!!!

zwinky
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To all with partisan bones to pick please remember a few things: When we treat regular Afghan citizens with absolute disregard, this does not help our soldiers. No one is saying coddle the Taliban. No one is accusing Canadian soldiers of participating in torture. Mr. Colvin was THERE not you. Mr. Colvin is testifying under oath regarding all DETAINEES, not just those who could be identified as Taliban and we have no plausible reason to disbelieve his statements that: "...many were farmers or peasants who were simply in the wrong place at the wrong time.""In other words, we detained, and handed over for severe torture, a lot of innocent people." Please stop molifying yourselves that somehow all of these men deserved to be tortured and that these actions are insignificant. It was an error in judgment to trust Afghan authorities with these detainees. Ignoring this issue and claiming it could not have happened this way does not help us win the "hearts and minds" battle.

Rene Hubbard
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Richad Colvin is looking to become a star witness, notarity and perhaps a Liberal politician. Perhaps he should read Gen. Hillier's book which gives an accurate account of the prisioners during that period. Perhaps he should become a soldier in the Panjaw and then he will see just how those innnocent pheasants hit the trigger to put off those IEDs that killed our sons and daughters. My son's sargeant was the victim of the innocent pheasants.

Nov 18 comment
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But the neo-cons and the Conservative party want us there because they think we are morally superior. If you think you are morally superior you have to be morally superior, and that especially goes for the treatment of prisoners. Unfortunately for the Afghanistan people their prospects will ebb and flow for years to come. This is a tragedy, but with no infrastructure to begin with there is very little for people to see changing hence war continues unabated. We were against the Soviets when they were there, we even boycotted their Olympics, but we are in their place now. Why? I say get out of there now and starting pumping in funds to NGOs.


Andrew in Alberta
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To all you Taliban sympethizers.........I FEEL NO SHAME! Our troops caught and handed over to the ruling government terrorists who were trying to overthrow that government. Our guys did not supposedly torture them, Mr. Harper did not torture them. Where do people in this country get off blaming our troops and government for something a foreign government did to it's own internal terrorist threat! What a bunch of typical bleeding hearts.....more concern for the rights of the criminals than the victims!

WM Francis
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For the people who think this behavior is okay, put yourself in the position of one of those innocent people. Sure, you will say 'oh, but they are terrorists, and this is how we fight them'. But you have to understand that all it takes is for someone to accuse another person for them to be taken away. It doesn't require evidence. Now think of stuff like that happening in Canada and the US. Oh wait, it has happened. Remember Maher Arar and extraordinary rendition? And don't think that just because you're not South Asian or Muslim it couldn't happen to you. It will if the next 'terrorists' on the list are people who protest.


John In London On
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I'm not sure what the guidelines of torture are anymore when a Small business owner is charged with forcible confinement when holding a thief for the police to pick up. What do we know about what another country will do? We catch the bad guys and they deal with the bad guys. We are not there to tell them how to run their country we are helping free their country. If their measures upset those at home it is because the media presents it in the most horrifying way. These people don't just offer up information freely and there is not time to say please, please tell us what you know. These bad guys want to die killing us so making them feel like they might be about to may change their outlook on the situation.


stan squires
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I am from vancouver and i wanted to comment on what Richard Colvin had to say. I believe most canadians already knew about the torture of prisoners in Afghanistan. As is common with the canadian gov.they tried to cover it up. I'm glad that this atrocity by the canadian gov. is out in the open. It has always been hypocritical of the canadian gov. to criticize other countries concerning torture. Like most people already know the canadian gov. is part of the problem in Afghanistan.

Jared Evans
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Another reason to just get out of Afghanistan now and let Afghani's deal with their own problems. We can't fix the world and we can't police the Middle East. Sadly, all the Canadian political parties advocate some form of interventionism. I am a conservative for a non-interventionist foreign policy. Search 'RON PAUL' on YouTube and learn more!


Cornwalite
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Why is it when someone supports the government, they are automatically labelled as a supporter of that party? I think that some Liberal governents of the past have performed well just as I think the current Conservative government is performing well. That does not make me a card carrying Liberal or Conservative. Our troops are acting according to the international laws governing this conflict...period.


Michelle B in London ON
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If these so-called "innocent" Afghans were tortured, I say good. They got exactly what they deserved.


two cents
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INMHO, If it saves one Canadian life, red is positive, black is negative, use a new battery.


jimreed
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Under Mr. Harper and his friends, the canada we knew, is slipping away.


Dan Calda, Halifax
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B Kelley wrote "so what" Well the so what is that we signed the Geneva Convention. Thereby aiding and abetting of torture is illegal. You either believe in the rule of law or you do not. If it is OK to torture Afghani civilians ( and we have zero proof they are terrorists )...then it is OK to torture Canadian soldiers. Is that what you want? You cannot have it both ways.

George Lawrence
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I wonder what the fate of those captured by the Talaban is or was ? Beheaded perhaps? I wonder what the fate of those teachers found teaching girls in their classroom was? Beheaded Perhaps.?. Given a choice of a beating or electric shock OR BEHEADING. What would our socialist and Liberal friends choose? When asked who the sources of all this information where The witness replied Reliable. Perhaps the Talaban? or those with a political axe to grind. .I find the concern of our socialist and Liberal friends for the human rights of the Talaban misguided.These are not soldiers of war these are insuricionists who embed explosives in roadways, killing many civilians and UN troops including Canadian.They recruit insane Islamic fundamentalists to load their vehicles with explosives then drive into police stations or public markets killing innocent civilians. . No concern for the human rights of those victims or our soldiers there at the request of the UN from our socialists and Liberal friends.Many of which reguard the Talaban and terrorists in general as freedom fighters and hereos. of the Socialist movement


Eric
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I've seen at least one person mention the Geneva Convention.The Afghani militants are NOT covered under the Geneva Convention. The Geneva Convention protects state-sanctioned uniformed armies. The Taliban insurgents are neither state-sanctioned or uniformed, so the Geneva Convention DOES NOT APPLY TO THEM.Go look it up. I'm not making this up, the Geneva Convention is not being violated. This argument should lay more in the realm of human decency than any treaty.So please, stop with the "Omg, they're breaking the Geneva Convention!"


BJ
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The Canadian Force on ground in Kandahar returned the prisoners to the government of the country, who are our allies. We have no control whatsoever as to what happens internally in their jail system, nor do they have access to ours. As for the Geneva convention, this hardly plays out in Afghanistan, as we are fighting terrorists there, not an army, we are fighting men who hide behind the burkha, and will not fight in uniforms. We are fighting men who have no qualms about strapping an IED on a 10 years child. We are fighting men who will kill young school girls, just because they are that, young school girls. We are fighting men who put children outside a shack, while they have their meeting, so the NATO force will not bomb the building, for chance of hurting the children. I don't think the Geneva Convention has been revamped to include this so called army.


Mead
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Remember when the Iraqis' were sawing off heads on TV, or the Taliban today, strapping on bombs and blowing up children. How soon we forget. Don't forget, these soldiers in Afghanistan are under pressure for results and want to save lives overall. Torturing 5 innocents, to get one bad guy can save 50 lives. Would you allow yourself to be tortured, in the quest to find a bomber in your neighborhood that is willing to blow up your local school with your kids in it?


Stu from London
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So, if the Conservatives supposedly represent the majority of Canadian's views, and like most people on the CTV boards APPROVES of prisoner torture, then WHY would Harper cover it up? If he agrees with it, why not tell the Canadian people we're doing it?


Anne Smith
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Well, well, there is a war out there, isn't? Who cares except some ex-diplomat who did not have icing on his cake? Our soldiers did not torture the prisoners, they were given back to their own military. What do you think will happen if we ever get out of there, bring those prisoners to Canada?


ItsZed
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When this issue originally came up the conservative government did everything it could to pretend nothing was wrong, which only prolonged the illegal torture of innocent people. It's just another example of how the Conservatives are destroying Canadas good name and reputation around the world. I'm not impressed, nor is much of civilized humanity.


Gregory d
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I gotta wonder if the family's of our fallen soldiers care about what happens to Taliban prisoners. These are the same people that plant bombs to kill our troops and throw acid at school girls. Who cares. Further more we hand them over to the afghan authorities so why does it affect us. go whine at them. We are there to kill Taliban and everyone is worried they are mistreated in prison. Unbelievable


ItsZed
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I'm shocked when I read comments here that justify torture. If torture is legal, then YOU have the right to be TORTURED! The treaties that ban torture, as most liberals understand, where written to protect OUR soldiers, not theirs!


ItsZed
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It's our responsibility, in war, or criminal justice, to ensure all people who are detained are given a fair hearing and prevented from being tortured. Why? Because international law is there to protect the innocent and the soldiers. If you allow torture, you allow our soldiers to be tortured.

Rob Calgary
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So easy to go against what is right when you're sitting hear in Canada in the comfort of your own home, some you need a taste of reality from some of the comments I have read. I will bet most of you have never even been out of Canada.

Nasty Celt
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So what if we torture suspected Taliban. Who cares! So what if they torture our solders and their support staff. Who cares? It's war and participants on both sides should be allowed to torture for information. Canadians are honourable people and can surly stand to have a few of their soldiers and support staff tortured. If we can dish it out we're big enough to take it. It's a small price to pay for victory...don't you think?


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