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Hopes for common ground on how to deal with climate change have quickly faded in Singapore. World leaders appeared close to common ground, but it wasn't enough to keep the environment at the top of the agenda.
CTV News Channel: Craig Oliver on the summit
Chief Political Correspondent Craig Oliver says the APEC meeting is crucial to the lives of Canadians because the global recession has helped Canada realize that economic prosperity cannot be relied upon American consumerism.
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Paul Heinbecker, the former Canadian ambassador to the UN says it is very important for Canada and the U.S. to be involved in trade with Asia due to the country's rising economic dominance.
CTV News Channel: Paul Evans, University of B.C.
An Asia expert at the University of British Columbia says the U.S. is trying to reassert itself in Asia in a constructive way and Canada's goal will be to strengthen relations with Asian governments that are becoming increasingly powerful internationally.
CTV News Extended: PM Stephen Harper
Addressing reporters at the APEC summit, the prime minister said that although climate change is an important issue, it needs to be balanced with economic management.
CTV National News: Graham Richardson reports
Stephen Harper's trip in Singapore will focus mostly on China and recovery from the recession.

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Date: Sat. Nov. 14 2009 11:08 PM ET

At a breakfast meeting in Singapore, representatives from 21 countries in the Asia-Pacific Economic Co-operation group announced that plans to forge an international agreement on climate change will have to wait.

On Saturday, Prime Minister Stephen Harper cautioned during the APEC meeting that leaders gathered there had significant differences over climate change policy.

Consistent with that view, a consensus emerged in Singapore by early Sunday that it will be hard to come to a post-2012 emissions regime in Copenhagen, Denmark.

Countries from around the world are due to meet in Copenhagen in early December in an attempt to create an emissions control agreement to replace the Kyoto Protocol, which will expire in 2012.

The international community must work together on a climate-change deal to "reduce the risk to the planet," Prime Minister Stephen Harper said Saturday, but both developed and emerging economic powers must be on board so that some countries do not benefit economically while others suffer.

  • Watch CTV's Question Period on Sunday for an interview with Trade Minister Stockwell Day on APEC

"We all would agree that climate change is an important international priority that has to be tackled. We have to have a long-term plan that will reduce the risk to the planet," Harper told reporters. "At the same time, we're in the middle of an economic recession, so obviously everybody's also concerned about the impact of that on their economies."

He pointed out that emerging economies, such as China and Indonesia, are responsible for nearly half of all emissions worldwide, a figure that will eventually grow to two-thirds.

"If we don't control those, whatever we do in the developed world will have no impact on climate change," Harper said.

"If everyone is not included, you set up the possible risk that certain countries will gain economic advantage from being included or not included," he added.

Paul Evans, an Asia expert at the University of British Columbia, said one of the goals of the Canadian delegation will be to firm up relations with Asian governments that are becoming increasingly powerful internationally.

"We're holding on by our fingernails to institutions where leadership and the dynamism are increasingly coming from Asia," Evans told CTV News Channel on Saturday. "Mr. Harper is playing catch-up with the United States, with India and China, in trying to be part of those new corridors of power," he said.

Climate change will also be on the summit's agenda on Sunday, when Australian Prime Minister Kevin Rudd hosts an ad hoc breakfast meeting of all 21 leaders to discuss the issue.

CTV's Graham Richardson, who is travelling with the prime minister, told News Channel on Saturday that the Conservative government has come under fire for its lack of direction on climate change.

The Tories have blamed the Chretien government for signing the 1997 Kyoto Protocol and then failing to meet its aggressive emission-reduction targets, and have vowed to establish a more realistic policy.

However, that policy is not yet clear.

"(The Conservatives) are under some criticism for that and they have been since they came into office," Richardson said Saturday morning. "Many people believe the Harper government never really believed in climate change until most of the world, including the Americans, starting to talk more seriously about it."

Before heading to Singapore on Saturday, U.S. President Barack Obama acknowledged his country is behind on climate-change policy, but is taking steps to catch up.

"Already, the United States has taken more steps to combat climate change in ten months than we have in our recent history: by embracing the latest science, investing in new energy, raising efficiency standards, forging new partnerships, and engaging in international climate negotiations," Obama said Saturday during a speech in Tokyo.

"America knows there is more work to do -- but we are meeting our responsibility, and will continue to do so."

Federal Environment Minister Jim Prentice said Saturday that he's ready to discuss climate change with the rest of the international community. But he affirmed that Alberta's oilsands developments will continue.

Speaking in Edmonton, Prentice said the federal government will try to reduce greenhouse-gas emissions without hurting the economy, at the climate-change meeting in Copenhagen, Denmark, next month.

Representatives from more than 200 countries will gather in Copenhagen on Dec. 7 to try to forge an agreement that will replace the Kyoto Protocol, which expires in 2012.

A few dozen protesters gathered outside the building where Prentice spoke. They called on Ottawa to introduce larger emissions cuts.

With files from The Canadian Press

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raj
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I think our PM and Obama are on the same page. I am pleased to hear this.

Art
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This is just another delaying tactic. It is not fair for developed nations to say that the non-developed nations should follow the same rules as the developed nations. It is just another case of the rich keeping the poor poor, while the rich continue to get richer.

conductor274
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Harper has been denying global warming for a long time so he has ruined Canada's reputation on the global stage. Now that Obama has come out strong promising to go green Harper is all of a sudden a believer but he still won't act as a leader. Harper now points the finger at China and India as the major polluters, which they are, but he still won't put forward any meaningful change inside Canada. Our tar sands are the single largest source of green house gases but Harper still gives them a pass when it comes to pollution. Harper is not a leader, he's a follower and a puppet of the the big oil companies.

Portes
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I am sick and tired of this Climate change crap. yes the climate is changing and has done for the begining of time,but we dont' have to stop everything we are doing, we just have to do it in a different way. People like Suzuki are making millions pushing their end of the world nonsense. I watched a program call the the Lost Book of Nostradamus and in it he predicts the exact same thing that is happening now and this was written in 1509. I suggest that we put all of our knowledge to work to solve the problem,surely there are people out there that have solutions, rather than panic reactions


Dave in Qc.
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The Conservative policy on climate change is as clear as mud. They are as serious about climate change as Castro is about wishing Bush happy Birthday.


Doug @ BC
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Harper is doing exactly what Canadians pay him to do. Look after the interests of Canada and Canadians. The Chretien Liberals sold us out by negotiating an exremely poor deal for Canada at Kyoto, and then doing absolutely nothing to implemant the deal they signed. This is not the first time Liberals have put their mouths in motion before getting their brains in gear. Liberal treachery left Harper with the difficult task. Climate change needs to be addressed by ALL nations. Nothing done in Canada and the USA will make an iota of difference if countries elsewhere don't do their part. Most of the suggestions put forward so far are simply left wing excuses raise taxes in developed nations,and forward them on to undeveloped nations.And,through our experience with foreign aid,we all know that money would likely be squandered on everything but clean energy. Kyoto sucked.Period.We need a new deal that includes everyone.I commend our PM for standing tall to get the best deal possible.Even the posts here indicate how much more difficult it is to stand for what you believe in,as opposed to what is popular. The Liberals signed a popular document in Kyoto,then did nothing about actual green house emissions.But they did propose tax increases for every Canadian.Harper and Obama must stand together on lower green house gas emissions world wide,and negotiate a treaty that is equal,do-able,and actually reduces CO2 everywhere. Money to undeveloped nations should come from "Foreign Aid" programs.Climate change cannot be used as an excuse to extort even more from developed nations.Alternatively,we could stop foreign aid,and send climate change dollars instead.NOT BOTH.


Jay-TO
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More lip service. Actions Mr Harper not more words. You have had 3 environmental plans. None of which you have implemented. Why believe you now? You'll just not implement this one either, not while you are in the oil industries back pocket.. You are worse than the liberals. Who are we expected to vote for in the next election? There are no real options.

Joan Russow
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Canadians Will Replace Prime Minister Harper at CopenhagenHarper will not attend the COP 15 Summit in Copenhagen Perhaps he finally realizes that his minority government has no right to represent Canada. In his absence, Canadians attending the summit will have the opportunity to present, on behalf of Canada, a list of firm obligations to be incurred, by Canada, in a legally binding protocol to the UNFCCC.Canadians on behalf of Canada incur the following obligations:1. Because of the global urgency, Canada now has the political will to strive to contain the rise in temperature to less than 1°C above pre-industrial levels, (278 ppm). and will impose strict time frames so that overall global emissions will begin to be reversed as of 2010. There must be a target of 30% below 1990 levels by 2015, 50% below by 2020, 75% by 2030, 85% by 2040 and 100% below by 2050, while adhering to the precautionary principle, the differentiated responsibility principle, and the fair and just transition principle2.Canada will embark immediately on time-bound phasing out of fossil fuels and of subsidies for fossil fuel, and prohibited the unconventional extraction of oil from Bitumen, such as in the process in the Canadian tar/oil sands. 3To fund the necessary reductions, Canada will be withdrawing from Afghanistan and will propose that additional funds must be derived from reallocation of global military expenses, including budgets and arms production and sales. Part of this fund could be allocated to compensate states damaged in any way by the failure of industrialized states to discharge obligations under the UNFCCC and other legal obligations. Canada will also urge the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate change to assess the contribution, of militarism, to greenhouse gas emissions For Canada, inaction is negligence; the time of procrastination has passed.

annie
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Good for Harper.Don't sacrifice your citizen's well being and standard of living just to jump on the mythical bandwagon.Credibility? We will be the envy when we have the hiest standard of living.


Rick in NB, Ste Marie
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raj, Of course Harper is on the same page as Obama. Its the page Obama gave him to read.


NS Girl
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So, in other words, Harper has no plans to do anything about climate change. How can developed nations say to developing nations that they better clean up their act, when those same developed nations continue to pollute at will and sell developing nations the raw materials that help to create their pollution? I am so sick of the delay, sick of the inaction, and sick of the double speak. We are ruining the planet for our children and no one is doing a thing about it. And to those of you that deny global warming is taking place due to human activity, please show me your reputable research on the matter and maybe then I'll believe you.


GaryinWpg
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Climate change is a con job. An excuse to implement social engineering by means of taxing.The world has experience four ice ages that scientists know of. It has cooled down, it has warmed up. It is a cycle. The difference with the upcoming warming/cooling period, mankind has the capacity to observe and record it.The term "carbon emissions" has replaced the term "CO2 emissions" because people realize that CO2 is a natural component of the atmosphere at less than 1%. There is more argon in the atmosphere. Remember it is easier to cool down than to warm up.Cap and trade is just an excuse to tax and hence increase the cost of living foe everyone.Global cooling is a sinister con job.The money spent on such nonsense can be better spent on infrastructure projects such as water treatment plants, more intense recycle programs, land reclamation projects, research into industrial emission/odor reduction (ie: acid rain is an example).Vaclav Klaus, President of the Czech Republic, calls global warming for what it is, and compares its goal as the same as socialism/communism, control.


John
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I don't care if it is a Liberal or Conservative PM who talks sense. I am much more interested in the sensible from a Canadian leader. And we currently have a PM who is standing up to the assortment of third-world bandits and first-world suckers that tried to rob Canada blind with Kyoto, and are trying it again in a country that should stick to producing Carlsberg instead of wealth-redistribution schemes under the guise of "fighting global warming".


Andrea in Ottawa
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Well something has to be done on climate change soon because I just read the other day that Polar bears are drowning in the Arctic.The reason why they are drowning is because they have to swim long distances to reach an icebreaker.On top of that it is like close to 10 degrees today, and it is mid November. Usually, this time of the year it is colder temperatures.I am not a green , or a conservative voter but these are the real facts that I read from an NGO website.More action is needed.Simple as that.


my take on this
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Portes the Lost Book of Nostradamus is about as reliable as another famous book that people put faith in and both books in my opinion are works of fiction. However, as far as climate change goes, I'm putting my faith in the scientific results.


Fiend, AB
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History will show the entire "Climate Change Charade" to be the single greatest scam ever. It is the closest thing governments can do to taxing us on air. Wait and see, folks. Governments are broke and are looking for a means to collect new revenue. By scaring us into thinking that CO2 is the new evil hiding in the closet, we will be paying through the nose forever and ever to keep it from coming out and eating our families.


david sawkiw[saskatchewan farmer]
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Harper is getting smarter all the time.He is now talking the talk.He HAS to do it,, the left-wing media is forcing that upon him,, with the help of gore, suzuki and now obama!! How can the poor guy fight all these prize winners?? Well, I still have faith in Harper that he still knows the TRUTH about the global warming HOAX.. and will act accordingly when the time comes......

Aaron
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There may be some merit to the fact that the world climate is changing, but history has shown this to be a repetative cycle. People have to understand the political attention being given to this is not to acheive a change of climate but to create a universal tax system. This is the easiest way to get all the countries of the world on board because climate is an issue that we all face. Once they get a universal tax system in place this will enable a one world government to form. We will then pay all our taxes to them and they will distribute it as they feel. Please do your part to take care of mother earth but ultimately this is a much deeper issue than our environment.

david sawkiw[saskatchewan farmer]
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Instead of taking our tax dollars and sending them to third world countries under the guise of climate change policy,, how about a made at home policy,, and give odinary people huge dollars fo windmills in the back yard and solar panels on the roof?? How on EARTH will it help simply by making canadians poorer, and africans, chinese etc. RICHER?????


N.D. Peer
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Harpy is just trying to be sneaky...He realy does not believe that climate change is upon us. If you read what he said, it really means the same thing that the Americans said about Kyoto "if China does not sign on, neither will we" Typical sneaky cons....


melissa sandstorm
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There is plenty that can be done by the Canadian government to reduce waste without risking economic disadvantage. Does that mean that we should not consider how we personally waste and pollute until the Canadian government gets on board? Puh-lease. That logic is truly sad. We can all start now and everyday. Many of us are REGARDLESS of the government's position. People are pressuring their own governments all over the world.


JB in Ontario
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All emerging economies will have to be on board to fight climate change.I think these International talks need to continue until we can import and export greener technologies with other economies such as China, Indonesia and other large carbon emitters including the U.S. and Canada. Green technologies are the way of the future.


ARJAY, Chiliwack
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@PortesCould you give some evidence for your claim that David Suzuki has "made millions" promoting climate change? Exactly how has he done this? Who is giving him these "millions"? How much exactly has he made? Personally, I'm tired of climate change deniers making these absurd claims about people like Suzuki who have worked tirelssly for years to save us from our own stupidity. And now we get people making these ridiculous and cynical claims that's it's really just for money. And by the way, in case no one noticed, the equaly absurd claim that the planet has been cooling off over the last decade has been debunked. Turns out that those making this claim were using statistically invalid methods of analysis, according to an independent study done by four different universities. A major plank in the climate change denial argument has just been destroyed - not that the deniers will admit it, of course.


Island Man
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So when do we see Harper's Carbon Tax.? Remeber the tax he ridiculed Dion for talking about? Remeber Harper's promise,.. No New Taxes...except the HST, double taxing Income Trusts in RRSPs, lowering CPP payouts for people taking early benefits, lowering the dividend tax credit etc.


Adam in Ottawa
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I get soooo sick of this climate change crapola! Yes the earth's climate is changing. This is a natural cycle. I'll even admit that we are likely perpetuating it slightly, but probably only by a few hundred years. In the grand scheme of time and the universe this means nothing! Al Gore and David Suzuki and their followers would like us all to believe if we all moved back into caves and shunned technology that everything would be fine! They haven't fooled us all. The whole green movement is nothing but a cash grab for governments and companies trying to market "enviornmentally freindly" products! Please give it a rest...


Lloyd
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"If we don't control those, whatever we do in the developed world will have no impact on climate change," Harper said. While I agree All countries need to be part of the solution to climate change that statement negates the idea that any of us, as individuals, can make a difference. And right there throws out the idea that any and all individuals make a difference in their day to day lives.


Nov 20 comment
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The staff of harper is on the phone to every lost and found between Singapore and Ottawa trying to locate his spine. It is not a very big one you see so it is very hard to locate. It makes appearances at military events but when it time to do something about the environment it is found missing. It is completely shameful to hear harper on the world stage talking about the environment excuses excuses excuses..Now back to that spine. It is 1 cm in length, lily white , but seems to answer to the phrase "conservative majority". Anyone who finds it please let it spend an afternoon with Dr. Suzuki, then send it to Copenhagen. Thank You.


Tony
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Harper's creating a stalemate argument. Of course emerging countries won't stop in their production because of profit and economic survival. Here, in Canada, we are now exploring the profits of our oil. And yes, it will effect our environment!

allam
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If everybody in my neighborhood is burning wood stoves and fouling the local air, would it make sense to make only the rich stop burning wood and let the others continue foul the atmosphere?I believe it is common sense that Mr. Harper is using, and I totally agree with it.


Jaya
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Harper pretends to be on the same page in order to do as little as possible. Even when the EPA wants to tackle issues like great lakes pollution, harper et al fake action in order to preserve the status quo.So If you really believe he's prepared to do anything, it's going to be the minimum possible if at all. It's ridiculous that they can't even meet their own weak fake half measure targets.


J-M
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The whole world knows it's a priority, Stephen, but Canadians and the international community need to know that it's a 'Canadian priority' as well. Lift your head outta the tar sands, the clock is ticking.


ARJAY, Chilliwack
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Every time this topic comes up, I hear the same nonsense about how climate change "is just a cycle" and that it' all "part of the natural process." Please do the reading . Yes climate change has happened before, but hundreds of scientists (not just David Suzuki) have used ice core samples to investigate climate change for the last 100,000 years. Warming trends come and go, but take thousands of years to develop. This change is happening at an unprecedented rate, a rate correlated with CO2 emissions from human sources. Every major international scientific organization now agrees that climate change is real, and is caused by humans. The debate is over, folks. There are no reputable scientists on the other side, any more than there is something called "creation science". The people telling you the opposite are in the pay of large oil companies, and their claims have been refuted in the scientific literature. It's got nothing to do with "natural cycles" or sunspots. It's got to do with our lifestyle, and the injections of trillions of tons of CO2 into the atmosphere for the last 200 years from coal and oil. The biggest irony of all is seeing people like Dave Sawki defending the climate change denial side, when it's farmers like him who are going to be the most impacted by this. Remember how Monsanto lied to us about GM foods Dave? Guess what- the oil companies are doing the same thing about climate change. Wake up. It's not another "socialist plot". It's just reality.


david a cooke
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harper talking about climate change is about as believeable as Rene Levesque talking about Canadian unity. Another shining example of his actions speaking far louder than his words.


Greg
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I"m so sick of all these climate negotiations that go nowhere. People should stop feeling so guilty about driving a car. There is global warming hype and hysteria all over the world and it makes me SICK! The IPCC is politcally driven based on fraudulous science. But if climate change is actually due to humans, then why don't we just plant billions of trees all over the world and just continue our polluting way of life? Environmentalists tell us that trees absorb CO2. This is a much more simple solution then these negotations that go nowhere.


Robert Johnston Calgary
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Harper is at heart far-right; one of the "dinosaurs 4000 years ago" full-throttle ignorer's of anything but what the corporate lobbyists tell him. He lives in a closed cocoon and this conference will not grant him any fresh air or new perspectives. Canada's government will only adjust for the positive via outside influence, at the governmental level in the short term. But pay particular note to the short term's big opportunity; it is up to each citizen to minimize and/or reverse their environmental impact, through self-education, change of behavior, adoption of newer, safe, clean, economical, efficient and sustainable energy, products and practices. In the overall balance, the responsibility lies mostly with the general public. Stephen Harper is one of the George Bush camp and here in Alberta we have quite a few of his type of "deny, deny, deny" types from old oil money and far-right AM radio talk show hosts but essentially nothing will be allowed to get in the way of the greening up of Canada, our home and a land borrowed from the children of the future seven generations in advance. So we'll say "no" to AECL (highly unreliable, incapable of dealing with nuclear waste long term, as are the rest of the nuclear power nations, and responsible for 12% of Canada's national debt (Energy Probe, 2006)), and yes to solar, wind, localized energy production, reduction in use of long transmission lines, debt-based economies, and Soviet-style corporate manipulation of provincial (especially incompetent in Alberta) and national politics.


Ken
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I'm so embarrassed for Stephen Harper. The more he talks, the less credible he appears. If all Canadians really knew the whole story, he would never have been elected PM...


Rich
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Harper said dealing with climate change was an 'important international priority'. This report failed to mention that he agreed to attend Copenhagen, only if other leaders of developed nations (meaning Obama), attended. What's wrong? Is he afraid people might actually think he cares? Prentice (the current designated Harper environment lackey) said repeatedly in recent days that Copenhagen wouldn't deliver an agreement. Maybe not - but at least try! This lack of Canadian leadership is embarrassing. Great Canadian statesmen like MacDonald, Laurier, and Pearson must be turning over in their graves.


Island Man
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Leadership is not saying 'I'll go if they go' Leadership is going because you believe it's the right thing to do. Once angain Harper shows he has no idea what the qualities of true leadership are because he does not have them. 'I'll go if they go' is follow the leader.


ARJAY, Chilliwack
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@GregActually Greg, planting trees all over the world is a good idea. They do absorb CO2, and would do a great deal to mitigate the burden of excess CO2 in the environment. Unfortunately, the same economic principles that lead to denial of the environmental impact of CO2 also lead to the slashing and burning of rainforests around the world- the desire for profits trumps all rational action. In order for a few companies and people to make huge profits, billions of people are put at risk for years into the future. Any intelligent species would tend their environment very carefuly indeed. Humans, however, are as stupid as people who start fires in their barbeques indoors during the winter, and wonder why they die from carbon monoxide poisoning.


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