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Date: Thu. Nov. 12 2009 7:02 PM ET

It appears the plan to have every Canadian vaccinated against swine flu is not coming cheap. New estimates show the vaccination program could cost more than $2 billion.

The vaccine has been available to Canadians for only about three weeks now, but according to a report in The Globe and Mail, $1.51-billion has already been spent.

That figure was reached after reviewing estimates from federal, provincial and territorial governments.

The actual figure might be even higher, because many provinces are still revising their costs, while others have yet to release total estimates.

In September, provincial and territorial health ministers predicted the cost of buying and delivering the vaccine at around $806-million, or about $16 per dose.

But based on these new estimates, the total cost is currently running at about $30 a shot --and climbing.

The cost of buying 50.4 million doses has been estimated by federal officials at $403 million. But there have been many extra costs incurred by Health Canada, the Public Health Agency of Canada, and the Canadian Food Inspection Agency.

Those agencies have racked up the bills by:

  • developing emergency and strategic plans
  • conducting surveillance and outbreak management
  • overtime and standby pay for regulatory and lab staff
  • conducting rapid research

Earlier this week, Treasury Board President Vic Toews released 2009-10 supplementary budget estimates and estimated those costs at about $78 million.

But related provincial costs were not included; those are sure to cost millions of dollars more.

Costs have reportedly soared at the provincial level because the unexpected demand for the vaccine has forced many regional health authorities to open more clinics and to ask health staff to work overtime.

Last week, Quebec's health minister said the province will end up spending at least $200 million on H1N1 vaccination. Manitoba Premier Greg Selinger has said the vaccination program's cost could double beyond the original $47-million estimate. And Alberta has put its figure at $100 million.

By contrast, Alberta spends about $3.2-million on free seasonal flu shots annually.

Then there's the cost of the federal government's H1N1 awareness campaign. The Public Health Agency figures its radio, television, online and print ads carry a $4.5-million price tag.

Federal officials have always pleased for patience in the rollout of the pandemic flu vaccine program, noting that this is the largest immunization program in Canadian history and it is not easy to distribute vaccine across a nation as vast as ours.

Officials have had to balance the costs of the vaccine program against the potential costs to society and the labour force if a pandemic virus were allowed to spread unabated.

Yet some health experts have questioned the cost of the program, noting that the expense far outweighs the seriousness of the H1N1 virus

Dr. Richard Schabas, the medical officer of health for Ontario's Hastings and Prince Edward Counties Health Unit tells the Globe he thinks swine flu has been "the most overhyped, overblown exercise I've ever been a part of," noting that the virus is not causing high rates of serious disease or death.

Meanwhile, a new poll suggests most Canadians think governments have done an OK job handling of the H1N1 pandemic.

The Canadian Press Harris-Decima survey found 22 to 24 per cent of those surveyed said each level of government has done a good job dealing with swine flu, while another 33 to 37 per cent describe their performance as at least fair.

Alberta was the exception, with 61 per cent of respondents rating their provincial government's response to swine flu as poor.

With reports from The Canadian Press

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MJ
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And how many have been vaccinated for this price tag? I'm still not getting the shot but will be paying the bill like everyone else!


Doug
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Cost is what this whole exercise was about. When the Gov. is spending money, their friends are making a profit.


Prof. Pye Chartt
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The government-fueled hysteria surrounding H1N1 and the resulting national vaccination "program" has, to conservatives and libertarians, served as a wonderful most-recent example of the inherent gross incompetency of government, at all levels. Leave it to government to fail at something so miserably and, along the way, spend over a $billion$ of public taxpayer money executing the failure. If you implicitly trust your government to look after your best interests and your hard-earned money, you are, indeed, a first-class fool.If H1N1 had turned out to be a rampant killer-virus, a staggering number of Canadians would already be dead...and our federal government would be stumbling along, going through money like water, to belatedly administer a vaccine that was in short supply.


CYL
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I have not got the shot yet so do I get my share of the cost back. I am sure it would not cost that much if there was better planning and be more organized. Then we have to pay for the blunder with nothing in return.


Drew from T.O
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Oh here we go!! Now every one tell us how this is Harpers fault for the price of this! Give me a break! If you want something that fast you better be prepared for a very very big price tag! This in no way is the Cons fault! Remeber this was a rushed emergency order people!


Wendy
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That's quite a large bill considering the flu will be pretty much over buy the time I will be able to get a shot. The incompetent conservative government seems to be throwing away billions left, right & center. Our children will pay dearly for the mistakes of this government


bruce in london
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This whole debacle has been so over hyped by the opposition and a compliant media that a minority govt. has been forced to over react.Liberals calling it Canada,s Katrina was so over the top as to be laughable.What Canada needs and apparently wants now is a majority govt.Minorities are forced to react in ways that accomplish nothing and in fact cost us all dearly.


Raj
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The media and the oppostion libs, did a good job of making this larger than life.I refuse to have the shot, I dont get the flu.I think the WHO has alot to answer for as well


N.D. Peer
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To CYL and MJ,,,,you two are advocating anarchy!!Give your collective heads a shake man!!This is Canada! We are all in this together!Universal health care provides for those who cannot afford it.You two want your money back??? Move to the USA,, there you don't have to pay in the first place.Yes, yes I know each shot costs about thirty bucks,, that's why I'm going to get my shot as soon as possible,, because I deserve MY share......Thanks guys.....


J Walker
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This is only phase 1 of the spending. Phase 2 comes when all the side effects of this poison start to surface in the people who foolishly took it. Then Big Pharma will blame it on something else and profit from that also. Line up fools, get your poison! Make the swines richer!


Shirley
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The media is who accelerated hype about this flu and it seems the Health authority want something profound to happen (crying pandemic). This flu is making people sick but its not like there are a thousand people dying a day. Take your Oil of Oregano and you won't have to worry.


Jacob in Edmonton
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I agree that there is much media and government hype about the H1N1 virus. However, in the future it could be hard to say if this mass immunization prevented an epidemic or if that epidemic never would have happened anyways. In my mind, better safe than sorry.To those who are blaming the federal Conservative government for the failure of this program, remember that delivery of health care (actually giving people the shots) is a provincial matter. If your province isn't organized (like here in Alberta with the Provincial PCs), how can you say it's the federal governments fault.


daveyboy
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I wonder which drug company is the benifactor of this new found wealth and does the WHO have shares or an interest in the drug companies. Good way to put a quick buck in your pocket. create a lot of hype then come up with the wonder drug.. Someones buddy is getting paid.


Jason In Sask
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Where is the money for this supposed to come from? Do we as citizens in Canada want to start paying for our immunizations, I don't think so. If that happened then there would be a huge out cry about having to pay for our shots. People are never happy no matter which way it goes.If people who constantly criticize are not happy then he/she should run for office.Thanks for getting the shot out. Good Job


brenda
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More to the point here, is the fact that someone(s) is/are on the receiving end of that 1.5 billion dollars, laughing all the way to the bank over this man made emergency hype!


Get thhe Vaccine
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Unless you have a medical reason you have to pay for the yearly seasonal flu shot. I used to pay for mine until the doctor considered that I had to get it for medical reasons. I would have paid for the H1N1 shot in Canada if I would have had to. Another thing I am sick of is people saying it was not that bad because not many people died. One person dying of a flu that can be prevented with a vaccine is one person to many.


JOHN MESSOM CRESTON BC
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what does it matter how much the h1n1 vaccine cost .as long everyone get it that want it that what matter ..one minute the mediad is crying that people are not getting the h1n1 vaccine fast enough..then the next minute the medial is crying about how much that it will cost .att medial you cant have it both way


sdg356
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Y2K all over again?


RS
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When I am watching or reading the news, I feel like I am living in one of those countries, that feeds information to the masses, in order to manipulate them, into a certain way of thinking. There are no other opinions allowed. We are told to go to this site only for information. It's all so one sided.I highly recommend watching on "You Tube", Gary Null exposes NWO, Big Pharma and their Deadly Vaccines. (NYS Hearing on Vaccines) shown in 3 parts. (10.13.09) Gary Null was representing those who were against mandatory H1N1 shots for health care workers.


canadaguy
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we hear stories how the current h1n1 may have been made in a genetics lab. The government should do an inquiry about this to ease public fears.


Pip
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Judging from today's posts, any government - not just the Conservatives - would have been in a damned if they did spend and damned if they didn't situation. Maybe this is because some people don't understand that everything costs money, whether we pay for it directly, or indirectly through federal and provincial taxes. Presumably those objecting to the cost would want the supplier to do it for free, and those administering the shots likewise. Meanwhile, those same people sit back at their high-paid (or not) jobs and whine about the cost. TANSTAAFL. Far better an ounce of prevention - even at $30 an ounce - than a pound of cure at maybe ten or twenty times the price.


Rae
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It was all the excessive constant media hype & over-blowing that jacked up public fear therefore jacking up the demand & costs that came with it. The WHO stopped tracking months ago because it turned out to be nothing more than a mild flu ... I fully blame the media for making such a big deal out of it & the opposition parties for turning it into a political talking point & trying to make it sound much worse than it really is.Shame on them. Next time they cry Wolf, will anyone listen?


No Thanks
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Did anyone really think this was going to come cheap? Big Pharma are the largest spenders when it comes to lobbying government. They get what they want. H1N1 is not the killer that the media makes it out to be. More people die from seasonal flu every year. Media and government collaboration and the resulting hype are the perfect marketing tool for the drug company to get their product out - at the taxpayer's expense. What better, foolproof way to make money? When the side-effects of the drug come to light, all those who need treatment, will get it. From whom? Probably the same drug company that made the vaccine in the first place. The tax payers are going to foot the bill. Don't be so naive to think there won't be some juicy kick-backs for those who helped make this whole thing happen. Remember, the government has promised to shield the vaccine maker harmless from damage should something go wrong. That means you can sue the drug maker, but the government has to cough up any damages awarded. It's a win/win situation for the drug maker. With only 130 people tested in Belgium on the European version of this flu vaccine, do you really think there won't be any side effects? The North American version was never tested and was released for use based on the results of the Belgian 'test'. By the way, if you want to find out which of your favorite politicians most benefited from Pharma lobbyists, do the research. It's public domain. That should put to rest the age-old "It's the Conservatives/Liberals fault."


Edb
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What next, spend over a billion dollars on a gun registry "if it could save just 1 life"...oops, been there, done that.Maybe the lemmings will think twice next time governments of any level offer up the latest kool-aid.


Lz in Edmonton
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I have two comments:1) If you got your flu shot, 1.5 Billion dollars versus savings to the GDP for people not missing work or being stuck in bed for a week, staying home because the kids are sick, etc, is a very SMALL price. If you don't believe that, go research the effect of SARS in Toronto and area GDP and you would be surprised at the economic toll in REAL numbers.2) Sadly, most of the 1.5 Billion dollars was paid to people who are now sitting behind a desk somewhere thinking how else to mess up the program. The Swine Lines are Empty but the staffing is full. Clearly a mismanagement of resources on the provincial level. All the provinces rolled out the vaccine the same way and literally where out of step with how to deal with a panademic appropriately.The question I have is this: Had this been a real dangerous panademic, wouldn't we want to immunize those that cause it to spread the fastest such as schools? Wouldn't you want to immunize those in criticial areas such as hospital workers, nurses, police, paramedics, etc FIRST? What good is immunizing the high risk groups if your staff at hospitals is not there to care for them? These are the questions I hope the health administrators truly get answers too. Fire the "legal" team for their not so common sense.Lasty, if indeed this was a DANGEROUS panademic, it is of my opinion we would all be dead as the government and the "administration" of health by the provinces, failed under this test. I just hope they learn quickly, just in case, we have to do this again sometime. But I am not holding my breath.


Randy
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Educate yourselves first....There are no"Buddy`s" making money from the con`s here the company making this h1n1 shot are under contract from when the liberal government was in power,this has nothing to o with the Harper government,the liberal party has nothing better to do today then leave comments here,and give thums down to the educated?


MARG MM
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First it was the opposition crying that the Conservative Government wasn't acting fast enough in getting the vaccine out, and saying how incompetant they were, now we see some Liberal posters saying that the cost is the Conservative Governments fault. What do you people want?????Just because your Liberal party is NOT at the helm, you find fault at every turn. I do not understand why those that seem to vote Liberal, are so fast to critizize every move that the Conservatives make. If the Government had not had a H1N1 vaccine plan, you would be whining about that too. It's too bad that the Liberals can't seem to try and help the situation, rather than finding fault in everything the Government does, even if it is good for Canadians.


Jim McB
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Media and opposition fueled hysteria caused the governent to react and that costs money.To turn an old argument, 64 % of the people who voted for opposition parties in the last election were represented in this fiasco, so smile, pay up and enjoy.Could you just imagine the costs under the Liberals or the Dippers? We would likely have a needle registry under development so police could track who got their shots before entering a home!


Ryan - Regina
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The cost for this vaccine is disappointing for sure. But there is no way to blame the hype on Canada's government. Remember it was the WHO (world health organization) - a United Nations agency that over hyped this flu and called it a pandemice last year. Those that blame the government for jumping on this band wagon are the same ones that critize the government for not jumping on all the other UN band wagons. If the current government did not push for the vaccine - these belly achers would still be wathcing American TV and be getting all worked up over not having the vaccine in Canada.


Phil in London
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A bit of financial advice to our governments"You shouldn't spend money you don't have on something you don't need"This cost being added to our natoins books is a joke.If everyone who was ABLE to, would just pay say $50.00 for this immunization there would be no worries about queu jumping today and all those who can't afford the $50.00 could easily be exempted and paid for by the "wealthy".I realize this is credit card medicine to the Jack Layton's of this world but it would be a practical solution to an exhorbitant cost. My guess is there would be a lot more people staying away with not much change to the illness rolls and death toll.Oh wait, this wouldn't work, we'd have to hire a billion dollar consultant to determine how to collect the money, we'd have some of it stuffed in brown envelopes to get to MPs and of course, we'd have a whole new layer of civil service flu shot administrators with gold-plated pensions hired to work the few weeks pushing this pony pea on people.


Kadjere
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It's difficult to establish an absolute $ value to any life saved. Budgets will always be budgets and as such cost over runs (especially with government programs) should not come as a surprise to anyone. This is by no means an endorsement of inadequate accountability. The key is the success of the ultimate outcome and how it satisfies the planned objectives.With regard to Dr. Schabas’ rhetoric, I think he still needs to come down to the average mainstream Canadian's level. Saying the pandemic has had no potential significant effect in my view is still an ill perceived observation especially given the anxiety, frustration and confusion the general population has had to go through.


Caper
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WHAT big conservative supporter is getting all this money,


B Fast
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The H1N1 may not be that deadly of a beast, but it still reaks a heavy societal tole. I believe that 1.5 b is money well spent due to increase in productivity.When we calculate the value of this program, we must remember the number of people who are able to work rather than being off sick. And even for those who have not had the shot, they benefit because their innoculated coworker isn't getting sick and passing it on to them.


Amy
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Please consider the costs saved by vaccinating. Each doctors visit, trip to the ER and hospital stay cost much more than $30 a piece. How about the costs to families health and well-being? This flu is a nasty one, even for those who are young and healthy. And I'd like to point out that there is more mercury in a serving of tuna than there is in this vaccine. Doesn't the benefit outweigh the risk for those with underlying health problems?As for the profits to big "Big Pharma," this isn't a new issue. It is up to us to lobby for change to the cycle of research, patents, and marketing. There is a reason why Canadian pharmaceutical companies are far and few between. The cost of research is enormous, and to stay afloat the company must have a product to sell to fund further research plus paying their high wages.


KC-BBy
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The good news is that we are about to peak in cases and will see a decline in the next few days. We won't need it...but of course they'll claim there will be another wave - they have to say that otherwise they look waaay too incompetent with the ordering of 50,000,000 doses for a population of 34 million people with about half of those not wanting this so-called vaccine.


Jonathan Brassard
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Folks. We were lucky. This response to H1N1 has turned out to be another 'test' run. The results of that test? The vaccine was not delivered fast enough, and distribution was difficulties. The question is, what will we learn from this experience?


Doug
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You mean the sky isn't falling? Hope someone remembers to tell all the chicken little's to give it a rest...before they start the next panic!


Bob From Petawawa
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Expensive, yes. Government's fault, not! Any one who sells something, service or whatever to the geovernment ALWAYS raises the price because they know they will pay it no matter what. The corporations, they ALWAYS make their buck, BUT at the expense of the, you guessed it. THE TAXPAYER! I am Conservative and as long as the present guys are there I will always vote for them. (because that's our God given veteran given right)BUT they could have done better planning in getting it out MUCH sooner. The provincial Governmant COULD have handled and better controlled the issuing of it to the people. This is my take on it.


Kris D.
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Actually, Prof. Pye Chart, this is a perfect example of a Conservative government completely incapable of handling this. Perhaps if they weren't so busy galloping around the country creating self promotion ads and handing out over-sized CPC cheques we would have been better prepared. A Minister of Health with a healthcare background might have made a difference. Having an approved Emergency Plan to follow might help, too. Just some thoughts…


Politricks
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Before 'In the Red' Flaherty gets control of the purse strings, make sure you've got overdraft protection.His budgetary record speaks for itself


Yvonne in BC
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To Daveyboy and Brenda and all the rest of you that are getting in a tizzy about drug companies making millions: Do you think the nurses and doctors work for nothing? Do you think the rent is $0 for the locations used to give the shots? Do you think the transport companies charged $0 for transporting the vaccine? Do you think the alcohol rubs and other material used to give the shots cost zippo? The vaccine came from one company the Jean Chretian government, in 2002, made a deal with to supply all vaccines for ten years. All levels of government are sharing the costs. So take advantage and get the shot! You've paid for it in any event.


ron
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I have no doubt we spent far in excess of what was needed. That is the price we pay for a media that launches a fear campaign in support of an Official Opposition that keeps demanding more and more. In a minority government, the governing party has to keep buying off the opposition or be buried under accusations of all sorts - that costs money. What is terrible is the media keeps promoting this waste of money by putting the lies and spurious accusations on the front page. This flu was a mild one, easily handled by the normal procedures -- but, look at the media coverage, the over the top fear tactics of the Opposition and you will see why billions was spent on it. Until we get a majority government that can take the time to explain and defuse the over the top rhetoric, we will continue to throw billions out the window.


Vince M
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Swine Flu, Avian Flu, SARS, Norwalk, Hanta virus, West Nile virus, Legionaire's Desease, Mad Cow desease, The best minds told us they were all supposed to kill half the planet if you believe what you hear. Results? Nothing. In fact, according to the Ontario Chief Medical Officer Swine flu will kill about 300 Canadians compared to the 4000 that will perish from seasonal influenza. Makes you wonder about everything else you hear... global warming anyone?


Vince M
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These shots were NOT medically necessary for the vast number of Canadians and should not be covered under Healthcare. If we all had to pay for these shots then were allowed to claim them back in taxes as medical expenses I think we would have had a far better outcome. Any time you offer something of value for free you end up with unlimited demand.


Alistair McLaughlin
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I just got back from a doctor's appointment. He gave me the regular flu shot, and told me not to worry about H1N1, as the whole swine flu scare is a "bunch of BS". He also told me he was interviewed on local TV a few days back and said as much on the air.


Phil in London
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@PIP and others, what you are missing is a lot of us don't buy into spending this kind of money UNNECESSARILY. It's a case of why are we spending money we don't have (read deficit skyrocketing) on something we don't need (read pandemic LIGHT)I'm all for taking precaution but this is a case of over blown hype to sell some pony pea in a syringe.Those who want that poison should be every much as able to get it just like I can go to the bar and buy a brew.


Ray Luft
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Add this to the eight billion or so bailing out US auto companies (for which we got nothing) and you're into some serious change. Now, about that hight speed train service between Toronto, Montreal and Ottawa?


AB observer
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How come I am not surprised that:1)The conspiracy theorists who think that vaccination programs are "big pharma's" plan to poison us all while making billions come out in droves to forums like this.2)Governments get blamed whether they actually do something, and get blamed when they actually do nothing? 3)There are actually fools out there that think it is better and cheaper for people not to get vaccinated, and if they get will have to spend time away from work, stressing the healthcare system by taking up hospital beds, and infecting others. And those stresses are going to be cheaper than the vaccination program. Amazing!


Prof. Pye Chartt
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@ Kris D.: Trying to make this solely a Conservative issue, Kris, requires both a partisan axe to grind (Do you keep your LPC membership in your wallet or on your bedroom wall?) and a bowl-full of civic naiveté. The notion that this whole public "healthcare" fiasco would have been handled more rationally, and more inexpensively, with Mr. Ignatieff at the prime ministerial helm is a joke to the sane in the crowd who know better. Nice try.


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