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Canada AM: Clement Proulx, former inmate
Now a drug counseller, Proulx says aggressiveness among inmates is likely not directly connected to smoking, but some alternative arrangement could be found.
CTV National News: Graham Richardson reports
A group of Quebec's most hardened criminals are fighting for the right to smoke cigarettes inside federal prisons, saying that the current ban violates their Charter rights.
CTV Montreal: Stephane Giroux on the legal battle
Some of Quebec's most notorious criminals say the anti-smoking policy in prison is making their time behind bars unbearable.

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It infringes on the quality of their life? Smoking kills and second hand smoke is apparently worse than first hand - how much more defined can you be. How is preventing people from killing each other with cigarette smoke infringing on quality of life other than to make it better?

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Quebec prisoners fighting smoking ban

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Date: Wed. Oct. 14 2009 10:16 PM ET

Nineteen Quebec inmates are fighting a smoking ban inside prisons, saying it infringes on their quality of life and threatens the safety of other inmates.

The federal prisoners, which include a number of high profile biker gang members as well as an infamous drug kingpin, say that the ban violates their charter rights.

"The sentence in a penitentiary or in a prison is in itself a terrible, terrible punishment that is hard to bear and is very difficult for a person to go through, and there's no reason to make it worse," said prominent Montreal human rights lawyer Julius Grey, who helped the inmates launch their lawsuit Wednesday.

They say the smoking ban makes them stressed, angry and aggressive, and that if all prisoners are not allowed to smoke, it could make life dangerous for everyone inside.

Former inmate Clement Proulx, who is now a drug counsellor, says tobacco behind bars should not be considered a luxury item.

"The first unwritten rule about prison is anything that calms them down keeps them from aggression on the civilians, on the guards," he said. "Take something away from them under a stressful environment like that, it's going to create a lot of problems."

The prisoners who launched the suit include notorious drug trafficker Gerald Matticks, biker gang member Benoit Guimond, and Daniel Patry, who killed well-loved children's TV puppeteer Pierre Regimbald.

Federal prisons banned smoking inside and outside while on prison property in 2008.

The prisoners launching the federal lawsuit say the rule was instituted by Quebec prison authorities and is not a federal law so they should be allowed to smoke in the yards, just like the prison guards.

The Quebec government at first had banned prisoners from smoking inside and outside provincially-run prisons as well, but backtracked, allowing inmates to smoke in the yards after a riot at provincially-run Orsainville prison near Quebec City only a few days after the rule was implemented in February 2008.

The riot was presumably sparked by the ban.

The union that represents 6,000 prison guards says tensions have decreased since the ban was put into place.

"In the year and a half since the tobacco has been in place we have not seen one single incident that can be attributed to the ban on tobacco," said Lyle Stewart of the Union of Canadian Correctional Officers.

At the time of the ban in Quebec, prisoners' rights groups told CTV Montreal that up to 80 per cent of inmates smoke, and warned that forcing them to suddenly quit could lead to violence. Eight provinces enforce their own bans.

When the ban was first announced, the Quebec government said it would cover the costs of nicotine patches to help the prisoners butt out.

With a report by CTV Montreal's Stephane Giroux

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Sherry Katrina
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They are in jail! No rights - they gave them up when they committed a crime! Period!


C.Porter
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I agree. The term "prisoner's rights" is pretty oxymoronic. The only rights these guys should have is basic living conditions. I think we need to take a lesson from the warden from that "tent city" he runs in the southern U.S.


Ann
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Am I missing something? They are in prison, as long as they are given the necessities of life (which does not include cigarrets) they are getting all they need, this is not a night at a resort. When you go to prison you have to expect to give up your rights.


Kevin in Vancouver
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Finally the prison system has stumbled onto a real deterrent for committing crimes, you won't be allowed to smoke!


CYL
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Let them fight all they want, too bad, it's our right.


PBW
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As long as they are in a publicly owned facility, then the rules for smoking in a publicly owned facility should be applied - no exceptions. I see no reason whatsoever why convicted felons should do, without penalty, what would result in a penalty for law-abiding citizens.


r bennett
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In Manitoba inmates and staff have been banned from smoking anywhere on the property inside or out for 5 years. Like one inmate said it is just one more thing you can't do in jail like drinking alcahol, you get use to it and just move on.


Charles Regina
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These comments clearly define society's dogmatic views. Good, bad, legal,illegal, etc...Criminals, are individuals, who broke a rule others put in place. If the law wasnever there in the first place, they would not be criminals. (Minus the moral & anarchy).My point is, criminals already have practicly nothing, so who, actually cares? What if you were framed? Yeah, now you can't smoke anymore. I would say ban smoking in the jail visitors room only. Infact, encourage it! Why keep our criminals clean when they can get lung cancer?Criminals are ALL bad guys, right?


Eugene
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Maybe we can give them Jail-conies? That way they can have a nice view of the city while in bars but not inside their cells so they can smoke? I think it's a worthy investment...probably only gonna cost 12041040240324 dollars. All for it click the Thumbs Up!


Sammy
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Take away their right to vote as well!!


NOMAD Ottawa
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Who is paying for their legal cost?


Bear
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When these people go to jail they give up their charter rights, They are handled like they did nothing wrong. They should have to give up all rights.


Kate
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Why does the government care if they smoke or not? You know that your taxpaying money is probably paying for the laywers that they are hiring to fihgt this. Leave them smoke - why do we care?


Gaëts Gravelle
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I don't see how anyone, let alone prisoners, can consider smoking as a "quality of life". If not smoking stresses them out or makes them angry, they can practice yoga or go for a run around the yard!


rick quinte west
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Everyone has rights.....like it or not. Not all Canadian are model citizens like the majority who post on CTV.


simpleabundance
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They lost their rights when they committed a crime. Not hard to understand. No crime no penaltyThey need to think twice before committing a crime. Need to pay the consequence


Charles Regina
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It's funny how no one wants a war, but its that "if your not with us your against us" mentality that starts a war in the end.This is same idea, different circumstanceLife's a life; whether good or bad. Let them enjoy it however they want. Being in jail for life is punishment enough.If you want more punishment, bring back the electric chair as no matter what we do to them, you won't be happy.I know alot of good people who have gone to jail by set of unfortunate coincidences, and i support their rights 100%.They might as well be our slaves or dead then.Bad guys have feelings too :D.


Samual
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This is like the cons tough on crime it makes no sense. Let them smoke.If I was an inmate & & had privileges like this taken away.You can be dam sure I would take it out on society when I got out.This goes against any chance of rehabilitation for the person in prison.All the conservative tough on crime laws would have the same negative effect, making criminals even more dangerous when they get out.We really need to push higher standards of education, as polls show liberals to be of higher education than conservatives.


rick paul
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It is a public facility which is clear to you and I what the rules are.Why is this even a question?When people choose to break the rules they should not be able to use any rules against us to further their cause. This is also a public heath issue, and why should the victims of crime pay taxes to help the perps.that victimized them in the first place treat the underlying diseases that stem from smoking in the first pace.I believe this should be a situation for a crash course in a tobacco free lifesyle for the incarserated.They new the deal going in and now we are to feel sorry for them? I don't think so!The accussed has more rights than the victims and families do in our society and it's time the good guys got a break.RP none evil do-er


Munro - Brampton
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Nicotine is very addictive. Forcing some to quit this way is very hard. This is not like not eating ice cream or not having your favorite potato chips. And as far as prisoners not having what we do; I understand they have some internet access. The smokers forced to quit this way will be stressed, and very irritable. No one working in the prison wants upset convicts. Why can't they have a ventilated smoking room ? Years ago they had these a Tim Hortons.


Kathleen
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It infringes on the quality of their life? Smoking kills and second hand smoke is apparently worse than first hand - how much more defined can you be. How is preventing people from killing each other with cigarette smoke infringing on quality of life other than to make it better?


Debb
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I think that once an individual gets through the first two weeks without a cigarette, then the physical addiction is broken and that all of the symptoms associated with tobacco addiction subside as well. All that's left is a psychological addiction but that doesn't create hostility or aggression. As a matter of fact, a person's mood should even out after the physical addiction subsides.The two week period varies from person to person depending on the number of cigarettes smoked but it is the general rule of thumb for a pack of day smoker.


reidjr
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As for quilty of life people who drink or are drug users or are 400 punds is that a quilty of life.


beentheredonethat
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Welcome to jail, you choose your path in life and unfortunately jail is not designed to cater to all your needs. Everyone in jail should be in work parties instead of smoking and planning your next crime spree!


kevin
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Dont they know smoking is bad for them


Max
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To hell with them...If they get violent, that's what solitary is for......if they riot, let them sleep in their own mess until they are prepared to clean it up themselves.That's how you would treat a kid or a dog...and expect them to learn from it and abide by the rules.So prisoners can't compute that, but expect to vote?Screw 'em


david sawkiw[saskatchewan farmer]
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Funny how things work.When I was a smoker ,,the FIRST to ban smoking were GOVERNMENT buildings,, then the heavy hand of GOVERNMENTsaid no smoking in private facilities.So the GOVERNMENT took away my rights.Finally the GOVERNMENT is taking away the 'rights' of felons.AND the [our] GOVERNMENT is likely paying for the fight on both sides of the issue.Why did my GOVERNMENT not fight for MY rights when I was a smoker??? Some how this makes no sense to me.


Iris
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Regardless of whether they are in jail or not they are still people and people should never have to give up their rights! As an ex-smoker i understand the calming effects that smoking has and I also understand how hard it is to give up. We also have to consider that our justice system is not perfect and the percentage of falsely convicted people behind bars is far too high to justify throwing all inmates in one pile and tearing them apart.I would say that this should not be an issue, we have far greater problems to deal with then whether or not prisoners smoke and as long as they have to go outside then they are complying with the current public smoking laws.


James T.
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Filthy, criminal scum don't deserve to smoke. Or eat, for that matter. What they deserve is to be parted out for their organs so they can be sold on the open market to benefit worthy law-abiding citizens who need them and the proceeds used to re-pay the victims of their heinous crimes.


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