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A discussion about why the Tory government is expressing outrage after Liberal senators amended a piece of 'tough on crime' legislation that had already passed the House of Commons.
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As a person who has be victimized by crime and then by the justice system by way of the plea bargaining system , I can not help but feel betrayed by my unelected, unaccountable senators at the trough. Sorry, I am not into rehabilitation. I prefer prevention of recitivism for long long periods of time with long long sentences.Until now I did not feel another election was needed.

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Liberal senators make amendments to crime bill

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Date: Wed. Oct. 7 2009 10:44 PM ET

The Conservative government is expressing outrage after Liberal senators amended a piece of "tough on crime" legislation that had already passed the House of Commons -- and that Liberal Leader Michael Ignatieff had supported.

Part of the original bill would eliminate the current two-for-one sentencing credit given to convicts who spend time in jail before their conviction.

The Senate justice committee voted to change that to time-and-a-half served, meaning convicts would get 1.5 days' credit for every day served pre-sentencing.

The amendment would also give judges discretion in awarding pre-sentencing credits, and would require an explanation for their decision.

The amendments have yet to be voted on by the full Senate, which is controlled by the Liberals, despite Prime Minister Stephen Harper's recent appointments to the Upper Chamber.

Justice Minister Rob Nicholson said the amendments "basically gutted the bill."

"This what I've been worried about," he added.

The Senate's mandate is to review -- and amend if it chooses -- legislation before it becomes law. The House of Commons then has to approve any amendments.

Nicholson has called on Ignatieff to intervene and force the Liberal senators to drop the amendments.

"He should impose some discipline down there," he said.

Ignatieff supports the tough-on-crime bill. The move by Liberal senators only enhances the perception that the Liberal party is not fully behind its leader.

"I continue to believe that the bill should be supported unamended and that was Mr.Ignatieff's position every time it was voted in the House of Commons," Liberal MP Dominic LeBlanc said Wednesday.

Furthering the intrigue is that some of the senators supporting the amendments supported Liberal MP Bob Rae in his failed leadership run. Rae has refused to criticize the senators' decision, leaving the impression of a divide between him and his former rival Ignatieff.

Liberal Senate spokesman Marc Roy said the justice committee did its job based on the testimony.

"They are there to be independent," Roy said.

"If these (amendments) don't happen every once in a while then we really don't have an independent chamber or review process."

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Paul
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This will hurt the Liberal party even more......if that is even possible. The Canadian public is not going to be happy.


daveyboy
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well there's a surprise the Liberal Senators supporting crime. I mean not supporting the crime blii.


Laura
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Just get rid of the Senate and save Canada millions of dollars and the hassle of back-biting and time-wasting.


Chris in the 'Toon
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All in favour for Senate reform raise your hand, good now that we have a mojority we can send it up to the ... oh yeah the Senate. Makes you wonder why even though he believes in elected Senators, Harper has to start filling the hall with people who agree with the change. I wonder who came up with the idea of picking Senators, sounds like the 'original' sponsorship scandal. I wonder if they say 'Fantastic' every week when they go to their mailbox.


Twice vitimized in Winnipeg
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As a person who has be victimized by crime and then by the justice system by way of the plea bargaining system , I can not help but feel betrayed by my unelected, unaccountable senators at the trough. Sorry, I am not into rehabilitation. I prefer prevention of recitivism for long long periods of time with long long sentences.Until now I did not feel another election was needed.


Citizen
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Wow, Ignatieff really has control over his party now. So if this goes back to the house I wonder how Ignatieff will vote. Will he vote to maintain the old bill and vote against the Senate or will he flip flop.....Who is running the Liberal Party???


Andy in London
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Iggy's really up against the wall here, does he now oppose a bill he supported in the first place, becoming a liar, or discipline the Liberal senators, widening the rift in the party?wouldn't want to be him these days


oscar001
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No suprise here. To bad for Iggy.I think he strayed a little too far to the right for the appointed Liberal Senate.Jean would never have let this happen. He would have grabbed the senate by the throat so to speak.We also have to remember where Bobs roots are from.


Richard L. Provencher
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Chris, I wish you would be careful with your facts before giving an opinion. ie Mr. Harper's senators would not go along with the Liberals; Mr. Harper has to fill the vacancies to eventually take control of the Liberal controlled senate (until that happens the Liberals call the shots).


Michael from Calgary
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The self-inflicted implosion of the Liberal party continues......


Rose
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What do we say to the families and people of Canada that have been victims of crime. This librael party needs to go . Lets protect the people not the crimial and vote tory majority punsh the grits .


Dave
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The senate needs to go. What could we spend the salary of all those useless senators on other than paying them for not even being there most of the time? How the hell does the Canadian public even accept the notion of an unelected senate that does nothing? While were at it, cut all ties to the monarchy too. Another huge waste of money.


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