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Is anyone surprised? Ignatieff has done one heck of a job alienating people from his party with his "all talk, no plan" approach. Keep up the good work!

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New poll puts Tories at 41 per cent, Liberals at 28

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New poll puts Tories at 41 per cent, Liberals at 28

CTV.ca News Staff

Date: Mon. Oct. 5 2009 10:00 PM ET

Election fever may have cooled for now, but a new poll suggests the Conservatives would fare quite well if Canadians headed to the ballot box today.

A new Strategic Counsel survey, conducted Oct. 2-4 for CTV and the Globe and Mail, found that Tory support has surged to 41 per cent nationally, up six percentage points from September.

The Conservatives now have a 13 percentage point lead over the Liberals, who have now seen their national support diminish to just 28 per cent.

The Tories have been widening their lead over the Liberals ever since early July, when they were in a virtual tie at 34 per cent and 33 per cent respectively.

Here are the national results (the differences from a Sept. 3-6 poll are in brackets):

  • Conservatives: 41 per cent (+6)
  • Liberals, 28 per cent (-2)
  • NDP: 14 per cent (none)
  • Green Party: 9 per cent (none)
  • Bloc Quebecois: 9 per cent (-3)

The Strategic Counsel's Peter Donolo suggested the Liberals' low numbers reflect a strong desire by voters to avoid an election. Liberal Leader Michael Ignatieff has repeatedly stated he can no longer support the government.

Donolo said the drop in support echoes a similar situation to when the party said it would form a coalition with the New Democrats to topple the Conservatives.

"It's people wanting stability, being really allergic to an election and feeling very anxious about it, and therefore gravitating towards the governing party," Donolo told CTV's Power Play. "And also, they're feeling like the opposition is playing political games. That might not be fair -- the opposition is doing what it ought to do, maybe, which is oppose -- but the optics have been lousy for Mr. Ignatieff."

However, the survey shows some good news for the Liberals. Despite the resignation of Liberal Leader Michael Ignatieff's Quebec lieutenant, Denis Coderre, and the apparent rift that caused, the Liberals have actually seen their numbers rise in the province.

The increase seems to come at the cost of the Bloc Quebecois, while the Conservative support has hardly changed. Here are the results, when Quebec respondents were asked which local candidate they would vote for (differences from a Sept. 3-6 poll in brackets):

  • Bloc Quebecois: 40 per cent (-9)
  • Liberals: 33 per cent (+10)
  • Conservatives: 15 per cent (-1)
  • Greens Party: 8 per cent (+1)
  • NDP: 4 per cent (-2)

But the poll also shows the Conservatives continue to make gains in Ontario and in Western Canada at the Liberals' expense.

In Ontario, the Liberals have lost nine percentage points (differences from a Sept. 3-6 poll in brackets):

  • Conservatives: 46 per cent (+5)
  • Liberals: 30 per cent (-9)
  • NDP: 16 per cent (+5)
  • Green Party: 9 per cent (same)

In the West, Conservative support is at 58 per cent, up a whopping 15 percentage points from September. The Liberals are down six percentage points to 18 per cent, while the NDP are down seven percentage points to 15 per cent.

Sample size and margin of error:

  • Canada: 1,000 -- 3.1 per cent
  • Quebec: 243 -- 6.3 per cent
  • Ontario: 383 -- 5.0 per cent
  • West: 300 -- 5.7 per cent

Technical notes:

  • Interviews were conducted between Oct. 2 and Oct. 4, 2009.
  • Findings were based on a telephone survey of 1,000 voting-age Canadians - 500 men and 500 women, all living in Canada.
  • The sampling model relies on stratification of the population by 10 regions (Atlantic Canada, Montreal CMA, the rest of Quebec, Toronto CMA, the rest of Ontario, Manitoba, Saskatchewan, Alberta, Vancouver CMA and the rest of British Columbia) and by four community sizes (1,000,000 inhabitants or more, 100,000 to 1,000,000 inhabitants, 5,000 to 100,000 inhabitants, and under 5,000 inhabitants).

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Ryan P.
said

Great news-that's all I can say.


Rick in NB. Ste Marie
said

Now, how can Harper trigger an election without looking like he had anything to do with it. You all know that Harper can not and will not except anything less than a majority. The ball's in his court.


Altantic Canadian
said

Hang On, if my math is right, out of 1000 canadians, does that mean that only 74 people from the ENTIRE ATLANTIC PROVINCES were asked who they would support.Cause, they say 1000 Canadians, but only Ontario, Quebec, and the West are identified to have numbers.And since the Altantic Provinces are usually Liberal, the Liberal numbers might actually be higher than what is asked.Besides, most people who conduct surveys know that to be a legitimate reflection of Canada, you need 2000 respondents.


Michael, Cambridge ON
said

Reality is they need to stop trying to get our votes.... Just do their jobs! What some of us AND THEY don't understand is that our parlianment system is based on collective co-op among MPs regardless party line - hell! I think all MPs should be independant and no party allowed!That way house of common will elect a good prime minister........That would be a interesting route to take... If that actually happen then this nonsense polling games will crease to exist.


Dan
said

Just watching Power Play on CTV and the party strategist were interviewed. They disused these polls. Man the Liberal strategist sure was singing a different tune. I think this is a view through the window that the Liberal party will be changing their stance. The strategist even warned that if Harper took advantage of the polls and caused an election the Conservatives would "pay". Translate: Yikes! Watch the Liberals come out now and accuse Harper of trying to cause an election. Yesterday the Liberals would not of cared if the tooth fairy caused the election. Today, the fear the big bad wolf!


my take on this
said

41 percent eh. It's up to you Steve, the trap is locked and loaded.


Jon in London ON
said

Poor Iggy.......now he has painted himself half way up the wall in the corner.To quote Captain Kirk: "we're laughing at your superior intelligence"


Steve the Pundit
said

In response to the Liberals' lame "We Can Do Better" ad campaign, Canadians overwhelmingly seem to be answering:"Yes we can. By voting in more Conservative MPs"Still want an election, Iggy?


ADM Saskatchewan
said

Start another non confidence vote Mr Ignatieff, it does the Conservatives good ! More and more Canadians are seeing and hearing your power hungry words and are seeing that the Conservatives are doing a great job.


Dan
said

The Liberal party is like mother goose. Everyday they come up with new nursery rhymes. First is was chicken little "the sky is falling the sky is falling" the last few days it has been "Dr. Jeckel and Mr. Hyde" I was thinking of this and thought of a couple they should add to their list. How about: Humpty Dumpty sat on the wall, Humpty Dumpty hard a great fall. Or: The little boy who cried wolf!


james from Vancouver
said

The Libs should have pulled the plug after their convention in May. All Harper has to do to win a majority come the next election is continue to appear competent. A win for the Liberals is 2 years away at best. Until we come to a point where the economy is improving and the deficits are remaining they will not have the rationale to force an election. Saving graces are two things. One, I think support for NDP, Green and even Bloc might shift in favour for the Liberals in the face of an overwhelming Harper majority. And two Harper cannot force an election probably until next fall.


DoasIsay
said

The Liberal's were "the natural ruling party" because Quebec and Ontario were once happy with the rules of the game. No longer. The influence of Quebec on Federal decisions is ever diminishing. Conservatives will soon hold the majority in the Senate and proportional representation will give more seats to Western Canada and Ontario. The Liberals seem hapless fighting a united Conservative Party with their Quebec support no longer in their back pocket. The only constant in life is change... may it be for the best.

kent brokelstein
said

ATLANTIC DUDE--->it would be entirely reasonable if only 76 respondents were from the atlantic provinces out of 1000 total. They only represent about 7% of the population in Canada so why would they get more then that?


DCR-Toronto
said

As Mr. Burns says..."Eeeeexcelllant"


Concert Hall (Kitchener)
said

It's possible for PM Harper to sing his way to a majority like PM Mulroney's Shamrock summit in 1985. President Obama can do his Hawaiian hip dance, like he did during his election campaign for the crowd and cameras.


len
said

The last thing Ontario wants is a revitalized separatist movement in Quebec. With a marginalized Quebec under a Harper majority that is exactly what would happen. Look for the Tory numbers to plummet big time in Ontario soon.


Pat in Sherwood Park
said

C'mon Iggy - show us more of that great intellect because your street smarts are non-existent. I thought this guy was an Ivy Leaguer. Seems more like a graduate (with honours of course) of the Stephane Dion School of Political Cluelessness. Bring in the next buffoon!


Dodge
said

Let us all put Canada first and then the various parties second. All this talk about an election has made me feel that the parties are after power at all costs. It is time to settle down and run the country. A great President once said and I quote "Ask not what your country can do for you, but ask what you can do for your country" Enough of this election nonsense, let us all work together for the betterment of our country

Gord Blacklaw
said

Hey Libs Remember when the big worldwide financial collapse happened and you said it was Harpers fault and then you tried to stage a coup with the NDP before Canadians found out that Harper had actually done a good job with the economy and our banks did not need a bailout like practically every other western country? Well it seems you still failed to insult the intelligence 28% of us.


Will
said

Harper always seems to get so close each time but never seems to deliver. He always end up putting out fires after saying something that Canadians don't agree with. He's doomed to be a 'minority' prime minister.


Richard Michaels
said

As a resident of Vancouver, I can only hope that this massive Conservative lead will result in the defeat of Liberal Hedy Fry next election. We can only wait!


PeaDoubleyew
said

Interesting. All I can say is that if I were a card carrying Liberal, I'd be readying myself for the next convention and get this self centered 'leader' back to Harvard. Iggy has managed to screw up the Party even more that Stephane did.


keith
said

And just after Iggy put the throttle to full and threw away the lever this happens... Well I guess we can safely say that there will be another Liberal leadership convention in the near future.


Reba
said

Come on Quebec, join in with us other Canadians. It was this PRIME MINISTER, that declared Quebec, a nation within a nation. It was this PRIME MINISTER, that fixed the equalization payments after the Liberals gutted that and MANY programs to appear as though they had paid off the debt. This PRIME MINISTER, will go into the history books as one of 'The Great Ones'...come along for the ride, Quebec!

Phil in London
said

You can point all you want to the size of the poll, the best way to measure these things is by looking over the results of seveal polls. You now have Strategic Counsel adding to Ekos and Gus Reid all showing the Ontario conservative support growing. This is a real trend confirmed by several polls now - as Ontario goes so will the country. Harper is right to just keep on governing and let the Liberals and NDP take turns at shooting themselves in the foot. It won't take long for the Bloc numbers to erode a bit and they won't all go Liberal. Next move by Iggy will be interesting.


B. Kelley, Ontario
said

ALL leaders should get the message - Canadians are tired of campaigns and elections. This result should be used as a mandate for all parties to stop their silly war and GOVERN the country in the best interests of Canadians, not political parties. Minority governments can and do work well if all elected representatives take their jobs seriously and do them responsibly. That is something every politician should be able to agree with. Any who can't should get the hell out and get themselves new jobs elsewhere.


DGRose
said

As much as I want the CPC to get a majority and see the Liberals and NDP obliterated, I do NOT want another election. If Harper forces one I'll be a little put out with the man I voted for; if Iggy, Jack, or Gilles want to pull the trigger then all I can say to them is try to take it like men when Canadian voters rear their angry heads. The Opposition has whimpered and moaned for too long that want cooperation from the ruling gov't even as they obstruct, delay, obfuscate, antagonize, and conspire: Let them put up now or shut up for good.


Naveed
said

The current poll merely shows that many Canadians have not realized the true Stephen Harper, which is not a boon for this country of ours. Divisive, undemocratic and misrepresentative. Also the Conservatives will drop in the polls next election time, and I predict a Liberal minority government. Watch Harper try and make his own government fall for an election, like he did in the last election.


Michael (Ottawa)
said

This only confirms what most Canadians can tell you, that the Prime Minister is doing an acceptable job of leading the country during a terrible economic storm which we are not responsible for. It also confirms that most Canadians are getting more than a little fed up with the pompous lefties in the Liberal camp who constantly spew negativity and doom and gloom and "diss" our Prime Minister at every turn. Now all that negativity is coming home to roost. The nation has finally awakened from it's Liberal nightmare and is beginning to see that things are pretty good without the fiberals in power. Canadians don't expect perfection but we do expect a reasonable effort to do your job as an MP something the Liberals refuse to do and instead clamour day after day for an election. Maybe we should now give them one and be done with them once and for all.


Jim-Surrey
said

Not sure where they got these results as ones I saw had the the Tories at over 60%. Guess it depends whose results you trust?


Jeff from Edmonton
said

Is anyone surprised? Ignatieff has done one heck of a job alienating people from his party with his "all talk, no plan" approach. Keep up the good work!


Hagios
said

When you hack away every day in the media at the leader and Prime Minister of our country and offer no better solutions you end up looking like a FOOL.... ....this is no surprise to anyone at least not to most Canadians who have been exposed to Michael Ignatieff.The Liberals do not have a divine right to govern this country nor do they have an entitlement to political power. That may come as a surprise to Liberals and the few supporters they have left.


Joe Blow
said

What do you expect..the Tories got us thru the financial crisis,we are held in esteem by our allies because of our professional military,we are now respected in the world as a nation to be counted on, and looked up to....The liberals are rudderless,their leader cannot relate to the common man, they are imploding from the inside and they realize IGGY was a bad choice and that BOB RAE the NDP turncoast has a little too much say and will see them thru to their demise....there is still infighting between the Chretien and Martin camps and it is quite obvious that the Toronto based party core are trying to run things..NO thanks had enough of those guys ..over the last 24 years...their Supreme Court appointments have hurt the average Canadian......in the pocket book and on the street.............But they still pound away as if they own the place...not realizing they are no longer a power to be looked at seriously.........The NDP do not even count in this scenario....Jack is finished he was too power hungary.......You can feel this attitude across the country


Blake @ Cassels
said

"It's people wanting stability, being really allergic to an election and feeling very anxious about it, and therefore gravitating towards the governing party," said Donolo.That's rich coming from Peter Donolo a long term Chretien insider and strategist! Miracles do happen.You got it Peter - Canadians know a Liberal government is an unstable government (not to mention Adscam and theft of our money)


Johnny (Montreal)
said

Peter Donolo demonstrates far too much partialness towards the liberals with his comments. He is making up excuses for their drop. The Liberals lack good leadership and have no plan - this is my perception of them and it's an insult to my intelligence that he suggests otherwise. I'm sure many would share that sentiment. The Liberals haven't been doing their job for a while now. It was first for Conservative policies and now they just want to simply blindly oppose policies. They have no balance. The liberals are not doing their job by simply going from one extreme to the other. They must vote for or against using good judgement - that is what they must be doing. It seems that the Liberals just can't wait their turn to get power now that their finances are supposed to be better.


QT
said

Canada goes one way and Quebec goes the other way... Argh! Some things don't change. It would be nice to see Quebec in sync with the rest of us for a change.


Claude
said

Is everyone fooling themselves in not believing that Harper will not call the election that no one wants.. This is a repeat of last year so why would he not do it again hoping to become King Harper.. For one I hope he succeeds so they can ruin this country as quick as possible so we can finally get rid of them in 4 years again for hopefully 20 years to follow. It amazes me that after breaking his own rules, laws and promises people will gladly give him their money ( a majority ) .. What fools we are.. All of them should be thrown out period..


Bruce
said

Will the powers that be who rule the LPC from behind closed doors send Iggy packing before Christmas? Who would have thought that Iggy would turn out to be worse than Dion?


Jim McB
said

Although I am pleased with the results of the poll, 74 people does not seem to be a reasonable sample for New Brunswick, Prince Edward Island, Nova Scotia and Newfoundland and Labrador. That represents 18.5 people per province and you couldn't even get an urban / suburban mix out a sample that size.When four of 10 provinces (not even as a group) and three territories are not even mentioned in the poll, once again you have to consider the validity of the sample.Perhaps, if it is not too difficult, the East could be included next time!There are no surprises here either. The Liberal brand is tarnished and they have become so unreasonable that Jack Layton has effectively replaced them as the Official Opposition.


island man
said

The biggest mistake the Liberals made was letting Harper run to the GG last Christmas when they threatened to take hime down... because he was in denial of the recession. They should have kicked his sorry butt out of the stadium. Harper has taken adavantage of the recession to spend billions of dollars as campaign money rather than put it where it will do the most good. He's putting the screws to Ont and BC with the HST. I hope all you Con believers have looked at the debt Harper is running up in order to build his standing in the polls. Harper will bankrupt Canada to get a majority. If that's not enough he dropped the ball on the Isotopes for Cancer treatment and through billions at shares of GM...what happened to the Conservatives? Harper is operating like a Socialist.


Diane Ontario
said

I heard mr. Iggy say on tv that it is Mr Harper trying to call an election, he is already trying to lie to the people to save himself. I remember when the conservatives and liberals were close in the polls Iggy said Mr. Harper your time is up. Iggy was all for causing an election. Now that the liberals are down in the polls he is again lying about M. Harper. Bring Dion back please Iggy lies and flip flops too much.


Rose
said

This is no surprise to me! The grits have dug themselves right into a hole


Fiend, AB
said

It isn't that Mr. Harper has done a better job lately than he has in the past (I have liked him all along), it's the fact that Canadians are beginning to see Mr. Ignatieff and the Liberals as power hungry ego maniacs who have no other desire than power at any cost. Perhaps it is time to reduce the Liberal Party down to 2 seats in Parliament come next election. It smartened up the right and it would certainly bring reality crashing down upon the center (or center right/center left -wherever the wind blows for that party).


Adele Hay: The Dump Ignatieff Movement
said

The dump Ignatieff movement is small but growing.


Tom
said

Kent what Atlantic Dude was saying is that by only asking 76 people in that region, you are less likely to get an accurate picture of how people in that region vote. With a smaller sample size it is more likely to be less accurate. And with regions usually voting certain ways, it is important that each region have the same chance of being accurately polled. If this is not the case then some areas will show accurate results, while others may not. As a result certain areas can, by a greater chance, have more influence over the results. As such the sample size of the atlantic and western provinces were not sufficient to match the accuracy of central Canada


Nancy
said

Obama loves Harper and so does Europe and we have a great year coming up with the olympics and the G8 and the G20 and a Royal visit. Canada is shining bright in the world and a moderate PM Harper is a leader I am warming upto a real Canadian. I liked his song to and he can expect a little help from his friend here when I cast my ballot.


Fact Check
said

Iggy was to exteme in turning his back on Quebec in lettting them select candidates. He is just to radical and unpredictable like a pitbull. No wonder Dion beat him, time to change the leader and let him go back to America.


Joshua Winnipeg going NDP
said

Great news Jack Layton will pass the Liberals too. Canada does not want an American Dictator calling for regime change.


Bill W james
said

The last Neocon song-bird drove Canada right into the ground, sold out the Con Party for a few brown envelops and rode his majority down to two MP's. Ask anyone at that gala if they are now going to vote for Harper, they'll probably say, ya right lets see if he puts the money where his mouth is.Canada had better wake up. If you give him a majority. Canada well end up just like British Columbia. A pack of liars in power, forcing their hidden agenda, going full steam ahead with a dictatorship.


Keith in Gibsons
said

Great news for Conservatives and Liberals alike. Time for Iggy to head back south so the Liberals can ELECT a real leader from among the more experienced in their ranks. Then we can a have a couple of years of election peace while the new leader gets his/her feet under him/her. Then we can have a real election based on issues and track record instead all this foolishness that Iggy has foisted upon us.


Les from kitchener
said

I am and always be a die hard liberal. However, this Mr. Ignatief has once again put the party where it does not belong. The conservatives, as much as i do not like to admit, have done a pretty good job. Let them finish the four year term, build and argument to take to the poles and the people of canada and let the best man win. This non confidence vote and coalition crap has done nothing but hurt the Liberal party.Shut up, wait for the next election and strut your stuff! That's what the people want, not an election everytime someone slips in the poles.


Jay, Ottawa
said

Uh oh, sounds like somebody is going to find a reason to tank his own government!


Nicola Timmerman
said

I find it hard to believe that the Bloc Quebecois numbers have gone down so much and the Liberals numbers up after Denis Coderre's remarks. Surely Quebeckers would have seen Ignatieff as weak and surrounded by Toronto advisors.


Sheld911
said

I cannot wait till election comes around again. For the past 3 elections, the Conservatives called an election but when the Liberals do so, they cry like the babies they are (conservatives). Really, I think that Steve is such a dictator and the Conservative MP's are just pawns in his game. Steve is a DISGRACE along with BAIRD to our country and get rid of him at all cost at next election.


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