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South African runner Caster Semenya is being cared for at the university she attends following growing pressure including questions about her gender.

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Date: Thu. Sep. 17 2009 12:17 PM ET

South African track star Caster Semenya is being cared for at the university she attends, after gender-test results suggesting she is a hermaphrodite were allegedly leaked to Australian media last week.

According to some media reports, the 18-year-old is in a fragile emotional state and has even been placed on suicide watch.

"Having gone through what she has gone through, many people are worried about her," CNN reporter Nkepile Mabuse told CTV's Canada AM from Johannesburg. "But we've been told the university she goes to, Pretoria University, is taking very good care of her emotional and psychological needs."

The country's national track and field organization also requested on Thursday that a commission be set up to look into how Semenya has been treated. Athletics South Africa has been criticized for failing to protect the runner's privacy. But it's not clear whether ASA officials were involved in the gender tests, which were conducted in South Africa.

That may become clearer next week, when ASA representatives are scheduled to appear before the South African parliament to report on their organization's role in Semenya's case.

A recent press report in the Sydney Daily Telegraph and the Sydney Morning Herald said that Semenya's test results show that she has both male and female characteristics.

The IAAF hasn't confirmed that, however, saying instead that it will make a decision in November about whether the young star will be permitted to continue competing in women's events.

Many people in her home country are worried about how Semenya is coping with the media attention concerning her gender, Mabuse said, particularly after the runner pulled out of a race she was scheduled to compete in last weekend.

"She's from rural South Africa. She's not used to this kind of attention on her, especially the kind of negative attention that she's been getting."

In response, local newspapers have been asking readers to write them letters of support for the young star, Mabuse said.

Her parents have reacted with outrage over their daughter's treatment, calling the IAAF racist.

"She said she knows she gave birth to a girl, and that this is all just coming out of jealousy," Mabuse said, after speaking with Semenya's mother by phone.

The 18-year-old won a gold medal in the women's 800-meter race at the World Track and Field Championships in August. While there, she was asked by The International Association of Athletics Federations to undergo gender testing.

The striking improvement in her racing ability, strong build and deep voice had sparked speculation about her sex.

Semenya won the 800-meter women's race in Berlin on Aug. 19 by 2.45 seconds. The IAAF announced that it had ordered her to undergo gender testing on the same day that the 800-meter finals were held.

With files from The Associated Press

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ADM Saskatchewan
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How did the Ausrailian media get the "test results" in the first place? This issue should have bee handled with a lot more care and consideration of the feelings of Caster Semenya. Hard to say whether an inquiry will do any good.


Mike in Mississauga
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My heart goes out to Caster Semenya. No one ever should be publicly humiliated like she was. The I.A.A.F. should have used much more discretion while conducting their investigations. I also wonder if the Australian media reports somehow violated Caster's right to privacy.


It's about time..
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I feel for this athlete and I'm glad the issues of being transgendered is getting the attention it deserves. This is a medical condition and these governing bodies have to start considering how they're going to deal with these athletes.

I'm a 47 year old born in a body of man but corrected the problem 5 years ago to become a woman, through surgery and considerable financial and personal sacrifice. It's not a choice to be transgendered, and all of those who want to quote their bibles can step aside, because scientific proof will just slap you in the face like a common cold.

I have a feeling this will have a strong effect personally and professionally for this athlete having to go through with this with the world watching. I just hope while they're watching, they're also learning, like we've learned to accept others and their differences throughout the decades.

Ron J. - Calgary
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It's reported that this athlete has internal male testes, giving her the same hormone system as a man. Think of all the other women in the world who train hard each day to compete on the world stage. They have no chance, because this athlete has a male's hormone system and therefore will be stronger and faster than women.

It's an unfair advantage. The only way the other women would have a chance would be to take steroids. We don't want that.

Yes, it was handled poorly. But it must be handled.


CYL
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Testing prior to being a competitor should be done to compete in any competitive event especially gender testing. If this is not done, it would be unfair to other competitors. This is an issue of public concern and results should be made public. One cannot hold a title/medal under pretence and unfair circumstances.
As this gender determination is made public, this person should be disqualified, and removed as a competitor.


Fed up with News Media
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Its not just Austrailian Media at fault here. Canadian Media was just as bad. Even before the testing, they were making comments about how Semenya looked ("she looks like a man", "she's not very pretty") and how deep her voice was. I think its time the news media started reporting the FACTS ONLY and stopped reporting their OPINIONS as news!


ARJAY
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@ It's about time...

Good comments. I can't imagine why anyone would give you a "thumbs down" for sharing your thoughts and experiences.

As I noted in a previous post on this story two weeks ago, gender is not always so easy to determine. Those who think that nature makes only male and female are living in a fantasy. Of course, this is a direct blow to the kind of people who think that homosexuality is a choice.

This woman /man may not be homosexual, but she/he certainly didn't choose to be born with both male and female characteristics. And if you can be born with aspects of both genders, why can't you be born with the sexual preference of the other?


Lorne
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It may have been handled poorly, but the issue has to be cleared up one way or the other.
This individual definitely has a clear advantage over other female athletes.
The possibility of not allowing this person to compete at this time should be considered.
This is my personal feeling on the matter - like it or not.


Laurie
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This is truly as very sad case. The media have virtually tortured this poor girl with constant coverage of this and the incessant rumour and gossip that reporters love to swim in. Now this talented athelete is on a suicide watch.
I honestly don't know how reporters can look at themselves in the mirror every morning.
Leave this poor girl alone damn it!!


Matt
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An inquiry will simply drag this out longer.

The situation has been dealt with and the biological facts revealed. Now it's time to let the poor girl get back to her life without being stigmatized as a hermaphrodite.


Lz in Edmonton
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@ It's about time
@ ARJAY

The reason I gave you a thumbs down is not because of your explanation. I too know science and would fully concur with your assessment of the situation.

What I don't approve of is your apparent prejudice against people of different views. "its about time" mentions the bible.WHY? Well, I believe in the Bible but I also understand the science of biology. People ARE born differently. However, adding that comment proves to me you are just as unaccepting of others, as others are unaccepting of you. Sad really.


Bob
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It does not really matter that it first came out in the Australian media. It would find it's way out anyway. Why are people trying to hide the facts. She should be not allowed to compete in sports now FOREVER.




NS in Halifax
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Everyone is running around in circles here and trying to be politically correct. If this was about drugs we would all be up in arms. IF you enter the public arena (any sport ) there is an expectation of fairness. IF it is shown that she has an unfair advantage and is allowed to race , who will want to race against her ? We have to keep the playing fleid as level as possible that means you have to make tough decision to keep it fair. That is why is some sports we have "class(s)" Weight class for example , to keep it fair ..


Simply looking at this person you know something is not right . Not trying to be mean, but I am not the only one thinking it.

Then on the other side of the coin, if this person completed again men and won, no would would say a word .




Wendy
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Sure - close the barn door after the horse has run off. The damage done to this young woman is immeasurable. Shame on everyone involved.


Shelley
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This is astounding and there seems to be a very strong element of sexism going on here. First of all, claiming that a woman who may possibly be transgengered and therefore has more testosterone is at an unfair advantage is way off the mark. I understand the concern, but this is as sexist as claiming that men are better athletes than women - period. There are some female athletes that do outperform their male counterparts, like it or not.
Second, female athletes that train rigourously do tend to take on male characteristics - some even stop menstruating altogether. Female body-builders for example have deep voices, often begin to grow facial hair, and their breasts dramatically decrease in size (which is why a large number opt for breast implants to give them a more feminine look).
Third, some women do naturally have much larger amounts of testosterone than the rest of the female population giving them deeper voices, more pronounced muscles, and facial hair but are not men nor hermaphrodites. The medical community is well enough aware of this to offer hormone therapy as a treatment for such disorders.


What the Bible and Proof
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Time for a real fight ... any one who thinks that a reference to the bible belongs here should take a stpe back. Mother nature is at work here and she did not read the bible. As for scientific proof , becareful of what you quote, scientific proof is questionable at best , rememb er a few hundred years ago the world was flat.

I believe in God , not the church or the people who wrote the bible. one does not imply the other .





Suzanne T (Lower Mainland)
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Whoever leaked the information to the media should be summarily fired ... and then sued!


bc grrl
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leave the girl alone!

her family knows that she is their daughter, her friends know who she is.

this should not negate the fact that she is fast, super fast and she has had to work hard to get to where she is! if the sports groups have such a hard time, let her race against the boys, then cry me a river when she blows them out of the water too!

caster, if you ever read any of these internet news feeds, you have the support of millions, keep it up!


Geo in TO
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So many people use faulty black/white logic when summing up that Semenya's producing so much more testosterone than the average woman ... that it creates an unfair disadvantage to her competitors.
Lots of women have naturally occurring elevated levels of testosterone, no internal testes involved, yet no one is asking that they be hunted down and tested.
The Williams sisters are pretty beefy. Mary Lou Retton looked kind of 'buff'. Lots of female athletes have more muscle than the average male ....



Elizabeth
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My heart goes out to this athlete who worked hard to get to this stage, only to face unimaginable attention on her gender identity.

She is owed an apology from the media and many others for this violation of her privacy.

For those of you complaining it isn't fair to the other athletes, well too bad. Years ago the science didn't exist to dig into an athlete's gender when there happened to be athletes who didn't fall in the category of normal. So why are we getting so wrapped up instead of celebrating the athlete's accomplishment?! Throughout human history in athletic competitions, do you honestly think there weren't other athletes who didn't fall into the perfect gender category? Wake up and smell the history people!

I have a thought, why don't we put everyone through gender testing and then publicly reveal what everyone considers "abnormal results" and point fingers at the person for being different! It's not so nice when it happens to you is it?


GTA Steve
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hmmm ..look at the facts... the last news I read was that there were NO FACTS yet confirmed re her gender.

IF she has both male and female reproductive organs (whether internal or not) then that information should ONLY be released when a decision is made as to whether she continues or not in female sports - NOT before.

What ever happened to 'innocent until proven guilty'. This is not like steroids - usually taken by choice. She had no choice in what she was born with..and if it makes her ineligible to compete-so be it. But let's wait to find out.

I really do feel for her - how terrible to have your situation played out on the world media stage without your input.

Hope she gets all the support she needs to help her cope with the terrible and cruel comments being made around the world.


LP
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Everyone is different, regardless of genetalia and hormones. Someone that is 6foot 6 inches has an advantage over someone 5foot 6 inches. I am an athletic person who was a successful sprinter in my youth, but have been beat out by a girl in a race many times. If you want to start splitting hairs lets group all athletes according to height, weight, gender, arm length, leg length, hormone levels, oh and genetalia appearance. It is a sport (a Game) people it is supposed to be about fun. Aren't there more pressing issues out there to get worked up over? Go Leafs.


Mandosa
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What a joke. Our politically correct world can't deal with this because somebody might cry discrimination. She has man parts, giving her an advantage physically. (i think i hear the whining now) Compete as a man. Case closed.



Lee
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Okay, this is a sad story about a young person with some gender issues and how the media has publicly humiliated her.

However, the BIG question should be .... did she/her family/her trainer know that she had an advantage in the womans racing category because of her transgender condition? If you stick to the FACTS, Caster has an unfair advantage over her competitors due to her transgender condition. Should it become a moral debate or a competition qualification debate?


Jamie in T.O.
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I believe in the Freedom of Press but this scoop that the Aussy reporter managed to get could ruin this girls life. It was not necessary to report this before it was official. Bad call by the Aussy Press. Sorry but that was unfair to this girl and she did nothing to warrant such treatment by any press.


WESTERN MEDIA
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I have never in my life be moved to write on the internet about anything l hear about in the media. But this one i just had to, everybody seem to be concerned about the gold medal not the human being that the world has stripped naked without any respect. This has nothing to do with gender more than race and money. The lack of insensitivities towards this issue from the media and public alike about a lady from a culture that do not understand the western ideology is sad. Her life and those of her family has been damaged forever in African culture what the media has done to these people many of you will not understand. These type of occurrence is normal in your western culture, to have this family and their sense of dignity stripped because of what nature itself has created over a medal material medal a piece of metal. A piece of metal that many athletes around the world take drugs to win. And still get away with it and if they are found out they get a slap on the wrist. Shame on you so called civilized and advanced societies. And to those who failed in their duties to protect this family.


jeff
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The runners that are really women are the real victims.
These tests should of been done long before this (probably were) and Miss Semenya should of never been allowed to run. Her country knew what was up and threw her to the wolves.
IAAF leadership should be fired for being so incompetent. they have made a mockery of their sport.
Her parents are calling it racism? Oh brother, they Loose all credibility.




mike in nb
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To LP: Exactly what I was thinking.

Anyone can reason that a person with legs a foot longer than my own (all other things being equal) will be able to take longer strides. Maybe we should discriminate against these "abnormal" athletes too! After all, they are taller that average and clearly have an unfair advantage over all normal height individuals. Then only average proportioned people would compete in sports. We can even go farther and divide the groups into those having a certain level of testosterone (pick a hormone) go in one race and those with a lower level of testosterone go in another. Obviously dividing into arbitrary male and female groups is not 'fair' enough.


Hubert
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The only persons immune from media scrutiny are the the members of the media and their "loved ones" - or are we to believe that this particular subset of society are actually perfect? To wit: I listened to Mike Duffy pronounce on politics for years only to see him run off to the trough at the first opportunity.


ARJAY
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@Shelly

Sorry Shelly, I can't agree. It's true that there are differences between women that make some more "masculine" than others, but any person producing more testosterone has an advantage over someone who does not. It's just basic biology.

It's not "sexism" to assume that this woman/man, if he/she has organs producing male hormones, is at an advantage over his/her female competitors, as the race itself proved. She/he beat the others by such a wide margin that doubts were raised, which are apparently correct.

It may be hurtful to the female ego, but women simply can't compete on an even playing field with men in any sport requiring strength, speed or endurance.

And although any well-trained females are certainly faster and stronger than untrained men, at this level of competition, with equal training, women are simply outclassed. Otherwise, why bother separating men from women in these events? And how well do you think women would do if they had to compete against men? There would be no women at all in these kinds of sports. Remember that the Canadian women's soccer team was beaten by the Canadian boys fifteen and under team.

Men and women are equal when it comes to intelligence, and to civil rights. That doesn't make them the same.




Andy
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This athlete should be able to keep her medal, and the record she established - with an asterix (these seem to be getting more prevalent in sports these days) - as she allegedly had no prior knowledge of her condition, and therefore did not "cheat" such as someone who willingly took steroids. A second gold should be awarded to the runner up.

Due to the fact that she has been (or soon to be officially released) medically proven to have male and female sex characteristics, unfortunately she should be prevented from competing as a female in subsequent competitions.

@ Shelley - There is nothing sexist about this issue. Yes, there are some female athletes who were born naturally bigger and stronger than their competitors, but they do not have male genitalia (internal or external). And just for the record, I don't know of any track and field events where on a professional level, the top female athletes record results anywhere close to the top males - not sexism, just a fact of science and life.


To Liz in Edmonton
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My frustration got the best of me and you are right about you being able to be open minded despite being committed into the teachings of the bible.

I know this since a longtime friend of mine is a practising catholic. What I need to know is how can someone from the same church reading from the same bible say this about me:
"If god wanted to make Jim a woman, he would have made him one". How does this happen?

Well, many experiences over the years like that one have perhaps hardened my views on people and their religious views, but I will try to keep an open mind like I was trying to advocate in my earlier post. My apologies to you and hope you'll understand my frustration as its cost me a big part of my life.


Keith in Gibsons
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Unless someone can prove with absolute certaintly that her non-male biology is the only reason that she won the race, then the result must stand. Competitive sport is not an equal-opportunity undertaking. Everybody brings their own unique body to the event with their own unique advantages and disadvantages. If you ban this owman bcause she is not female enough, then shouldn't you also ban peopel like Michael Phelps because his height and the size of his feet give him a huige advantage? Leave this young woman alone.


Jenn
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To Caster Semenya - who cares what everyone is saying - god made you who you are and you are a beautiful person. If others can't see it - THEIR LOSS!!!!!!!!


Keep your head held high! Prove everyone wrong!



Anthony
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That pretty much spells the death of women atletics in our politically correct world. The sport will be taken over by hermaphrodites who real women won't be able to compete with. The next step is to reprogramm some tissues in the body to produce steroids and then claim it as an act of god and scream about dicrimination. Big sports more and more turn into a freak show.


George Rondina
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Whether she is or whether she isn't.
This poor girl needs a sincere apology and appropriate compensation
for the pain and suffering she's been put through.

She's just a kid, what a pathetic and sad place this world has become.



A doctor
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This is a tragedy. We have crazy medical privacy laws and this poor woman is being tortured internationally, just because she runs fast and is unlucky enough to have a rare medical condition.

The most likely diagnosis from the reports is that of "testicular feminization". This results from a simple mutation in the testosterone receptor. All fetuses look like girls until testosterone, in boys, acts on the testosterone receptor to make them look like a boy. Thus this girl (she looks like a girl, has a vagina, has breast) is actually chromasomally a boy XY. Her testosterone is slightly increased as is typical of this condition. She was born looking like a girl, was socialized as a girl and has the external appearance of a girl! Often this condition is discovered in a work-up for infertility!

The IAAF needs to have firm definitions on what defines gender and let her run in that class. This should happen before jealous people dredge up private medical issues of individuals.

Shame on every media outlet that headlined this personal tragedy!



John Chow
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Someone - Calgary Wrote:

" Think of all the other women in the world who train hard each day to compete on the world stage. They have no chance, because this athlete has a male's hormone system and therefore will be stronger and faster than women.
It's an unfair advantage. "

With the same logic, we should ban athletes who are taller than certain limits, because they have an unfair advantage!!!

T


ruth09
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How on earth did this person get to this level of competition without being tested previously???? International athletes are routinely tested for EVERYTHING. How could this persons' coaches not have asked themselves the question long before international meets were involved.


Bob in Ottawa
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I feel that a investigation should be started into who leaked the test results. Who ever leaked them at the very least should be fired and if there are any laws on the book the criminal charges should be laid.
But most importantly the public should never have been informed. It is none of our business.
I feel so sorry for the young lady.
May God bless her and take care of her,


nik
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"...after gender-test results suggesting she is a hermaphrodite were allegedly leaked to Australian media last week."

Allegedly? ALLEGEDLY? The biggest understatement of the year. They invaded her privacy and used her for a cheap headline. The treatment this girl received is positively despicable and lacked any sort of compassion. Where was common sense? A sense of humanity? Ah that's right. It doesn't matter anymore. The media these days likes sensation, not real news. This is really disappointing.


Matt C in Calgary
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"She" has no uterus, no ovaries but has internal testicles. Her external genitals appear to be female. She appears to be a man that did not develop properly.

Should she be allowed to compete with women? Obviously not. The categories are divided into male and female, not males, females and males with internal testicles who did not develop properly.

I feel bad for her (him actually).


Rick
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No one appears to have addressed that if you won't let her compete against women, does she then compete against men? the flaw with this is that she is not a "man" either, neither physically nor hormonally. She has more testosterone that most women on average, but not nearly as much as men have. Does this mean she can never compete? is that fairer?

I really feel for this athlete, I am so glad to see the comments of support and empathy for her.




Carl Bainbridge
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my biggest problem here is it does not sound to me like they are discussing whether she must race as a woman or a man

it sounds to me like they are deciding whether she can ever race again

if i am correct i believe all upstanding countries should pull out of the IAAF


confused?
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I have seen footage of this runner and i have to ask...why was she/he ever allowed to get this far in competition without testing?

It is very sad that her family and people around her allowed her to believe that she was a woman and not question these differences. It is horrible that she/he was publicly humiliated. When I watched an interview after the allegations were first made public I could not believe that this runner was racing as a woman!!!!! She/he looks like a man, has a male body, has facial hair and a male voice. Blame should be laid on the people that allowed her/him to go so far!

You can't tell me that no one ever noticed or questioned this!!!!


Cara B
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It is unbelievably disheartening to read some of these comments. That many of you cannot comprehend what has been done to this girls human dignity in the name of a media scoop, and the business of sport, is a truly sad commentary on what society has become.

Is it fair for her to compete against women without the same level of testosterone? That is a separate question. The answer to it does not validate the basic wrongness of how she was told. To try and justify her public humiliation in the name of fairness of sport is inexcusable and pathetic.

For just one moment, try to imagine how it would feel if YOU were to find out that part of your basic identity - your gender - was not what you had always believed, and to find that out in the most publicly humiliating way imaginable! How do you think YOU would handle such news?

She is an 18 year old child. Becoming an athlete does not strip her of her rights as a human being, nor does it exempt you from respecting those rights. It is shameful that some of you believe that it does.


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