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Date: Tue. Aug. 4 2009 9:36 PM ET

North Korea has released two American journalists who have been imprisoned in the country for months, and they are on their way back to the United States.  

The move comes after former U.S. president Bill Clinton arrived in the country in an attempt to secure the release of 32-year-old Laura Ling and 36-year-old Euna Lee, the two American journalists who were arrested along the North Korean-Chinese border in March.

A spokesperson for Clinton said the former president and the two journalists are en route to Los Angeles as of Tuesday evening.

The release of the journalists was a sign of North Korea's "humanitarian and peaceloving policy," the state-run Korean Central News Agency said.

The country's reclusive leader Kim Jong Il agreed to pardon the women after meeting with Clinton Tuesday.

The two women were accused of sneaking into North Korea and committing "hostile acts." They had been reporting on women and children who had defected into China from North Korea at the time of their arrest.

Both were sentenced to 12 years of hard labour in June. It is believed that U.S. officials have been working on securing their release ever since.

Clinton made a surprise visit to Pyongyang on Tuesday after arriving in the North Korean capital on an unmarked private jet. He was there to secure the release of Ling and Lee.

In Pyongyang, he was greeted by Vice Foreign Minister Kim Kye Kwan, as well as by North Korea's deputy speaker of parliament.

State-run media reported that Clinton and the North Korean leader had "exhaustive" talks, including a "wide-ranging exchange of views on matters of common concern."

It was also reported that Kim thanked Clinton for "courteously" delivering a verbal message from U.S. President Barack Obama, though White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs denied that a message had been sent.

Clinton's trip to North Korea was not publicly announced, though his arrival was confirmed to reporters by a senior U.S. official earlier Tuesday.

Also on Tuesday, Gibbs said Obama would make no comment "while this solely private mission to secure the release of two Americans is on the ground."

There was some hope that, if successful, Clinton's visit to Pyongyang could help the U.S. and North Korea move closer together on other diplomatic issues, including the country's controversial nuclear program.

"This is a very potentially rewarding trip. Not only is it likely to resolve the case of the two American journalists detained in North Korea for many months, but it could be a very significant opening and breaking this downward cycle of tension and recrimination between the U.S. and North Korea," said Mike Chinoy, author of "Meltdown: The Inside Story of the North Korean Nuclear Crisis."

In the U.S., Republican Senator Lindsey Graham also expressed hope that Clinton's trip to Pyongyang could yield other dividends, beyond the release of the two American journalists.

"Maybe we can build on this and do something better with nuclear weapons," Graham said Tuesday during an interview with NBC television. "I don't know if this is the beginning of something bigger."

CTV's Joy Malbon said that Clinton's visit to Pyongyang was more than just a photo-op for the North Korean leader.

"This legitimizes North Korea," Malbon told CTV News Channel from Washington. "This gives them what they've always wanted from the United States and that's respect."

Tuesday's visit was Clinton's first trip to North Korea, though his administration had relatively good relations with Pyongyang.

In 2000, former U.S. secretary of state Madeline Albright visited Pyongyang and New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson, travelled to North Korea twice in the 1990s to secure the release of detained Americans.

Both Richardson and former vice president Al Gore had been named as possible envoys to North Korea to bring back Lee and Ling.

U.S. relations with North Korea deteriorated during the two terms served by former U.S. president George W. Bush.

Ling and Lee were working for the California-based Current TV at the time of their arrest.

The families of the detained journalists had pleaded for their release, citing the fact that Lee has a young daughter and Ling has a medical condition.

Laura Ling is the sister of Lisa Ling, a reporter who is a special correspondent for the Oprah Winfrey Show and a former co-host of "The View."

With files from CTV News Channel and The Associated Press

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Captain Giggles
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Good to hear.

It's amazing at what can be accomplished when you open the doors for friendly dialogue and cooperation instead of hostile posturing and mindless rhetoric.

Hat's off to Mr.Clinton.


Tom Turek
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Good to see some sort of positive interaction. Sometimes you need to swallow your pride to move forward.


Roger T
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The US reporters should stay in Jail since they entered into NK illegally. No one should be above any other countries laws, especially the US.


Where is Opra when Laura Ling needs her the most. Isn't she the reporter Opra used to film some documentary for her show. Typical of the Rich and Famous, use others for your own purpose and abandon them they need you the most.



Buba
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He had better be careful that he doesn't end up a hostage himself.


James B
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While I think Clinton has displayed some serious lack of moral propriety in the past he certainly has shown some compassion and fortitude in taking on this mission. I hope he is successful. He has the personality to do it if anyone does. No if only Obama can keep his yap shut it may be good.


Raj
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Unlike others, I am not enthralled with this man. He is a great orater, but it stops there. I guess he has nothing else to do, and who knows, he might bore Kim Jong Il into letting them go.


ADM Saskatchewan
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I wish Mr Clinton the best of luck and hope his trip is successful. While I don't agree with sneaking into a country illegally, I dont think it deserved a 12 yr hard labor sentence.


Levi
said
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Not another Jimmy Carter ... who can't resist being in the spotlight! Why don't ex-presidents retired and slowly fade away like they used to be?


Ex-Pat
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I believe their "freedom" has already been secured and Mr. Clinton is just there to do his facial expressions, for the cameras. These reporters KNEW what they were doing. They should pay back the US/Tax payers for all the time and energy and cost!


Rick in NB
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Roger T,
Where's the compassion Roger? These ladies were given 12 years hard labor for illegaly crossing a border. Why should Oprah have anything to do with this? If you got in trouble outside of Canada, would you expect your employer to come to your aid?
These two young ladies were doing their job, and often for a jouralist it means stretching rules. North Korea is using them for bargining chips. This is all a political chess game.
So i ask you again. Where's the compassion?


The Whiteman
said
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Maybe they should've sent Oprah instead of Bill. She definately brings more weight.


david sawkiw[saskatchewan farmer]
said
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Had Bill taken Monica with him, Kim may have been a little more friendly.....


Prof. Pye Chartt
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@ Rick in NB:

Although he's making it with a spiked mallet, the point "Roger T" is putting forth, I think, has to do with the sheer stupidity of two "vanity reporters" (read: quasi journalists who risk their safety or that of others to self-promote) who have now allowed themselves to be used as pawns or bargaining chips, thus requiring the intervention of U.S. diplomatic efforts...from the likes of bull-crap artist Bill Clinton.

If they actually knew what they were doing, and weren't so foolishly reckless, they wouldn't be incarcerated in North Korea right now. Journalistic brilliance wasn't a factor here.

As for Oprah, I think his point has to do with the alleged relative silence of a billion-dollar cultural hero who usually takes pride in certain righteous causes.

----------------

End Note: "Compassion" is something misunderstood and regularly misapplied by liberals. Thanks for the whiney treat.


Zippy
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What are these so called "reporters" doing entering North Korea illegally? How much US taxpayer dollars and time have been wasted trying to get these two out of custody. Maybe some time in a North Korean jail will teach them that in spite of being Americans, you just can't do as you please in today's security enhanced world trusting that your government will jump to save your sorry ass. If you can't do the time, don't do the crime.


Mish
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Three cheers for former Pres Clinton for taking positive action
Talking to your enemies instead of snubs and dropping bombs is crucial sometimes if you ever hope
to attain peace or accomplish what seems the impossible
Gov Bill Richardson has faced the enemy many times too for talks, with many prisoners being released as a result of those talks !
Its nice to see instead of what
Bush and Cheney did for 8 years
snubbing countries and dropping bombs!


Paul, MTL
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I find it incredible the amount of Clinton bashing and defense for the North Korean regime in the comments here. First off, there are a lot of questions surrounding what side of the border they were actually on. I also find it convenient that the NK Border guards were there waiting for them. The border region between China and NK is sketchy at best and there are no clear demarcations in many areas. I would hardly be surprised if they were tipped off by Chinese Intel. NK needs bargaining chips these days and China is more than happy to help Kim anyway they can.

I think Clinton is a good choice. He is by far one of most well connected people in the world. His global experience and vast knowledge of multiple subjects is an asset in situations like these. I also think there is a deal somewhere in here for NK. Sadly, both Democratic & Republican administrations have tried to broker deals with NK and got nothing in return.

While is past indiscretions were a personal failure to him and his family. I never really thought much of it. I also feel that this is really silly to use it as a way to judge anything else he does.

Go get'em Bill!!!


Kevin in T.O.
said
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I'm assuming Clinton's trip is on the public dime. If that's the case, if these two girls are released, we should send them the bill. Maybe they'll think twice next time about charting unfriendly waters.


Jeffery
said
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why is that not Barack but Bill?



Richard
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Hey RogerT:
In response to your comments:

'Where is Opra when Laura Ling needs her the most. Isn't she the reporter Opra used to film some documentary for her show. Typical of the Rich and Famous, use others for your own purpose and abandon them they need you the most'

You're thinking of Lisa Ling, not Laura Ling.


Dave from NB- A have not and never will province
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I have read the blogs of some of you and I am sure you just spit out anything that comes to your head even if it is garbage.

First of all, Laura has a sister Lisa. Lisa is the one Oprah used for the documentaries and secondly, Oprah usually takes on a subject that she can do something about. She has done a lot of good with her monies and influence and unless you know her personally, I don't think it is proper to comment on anything you don't know.

The two reporters were trying to get information on a subject that would have given them notariety and got caught doing it. That is too bad but if you get caught with your fingers in the cookie jar, you have to pay the price. In the western world the sentence seems harsh for sure but they were not in the western world where our rules and punishments apply.


GP
said
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Charismatic self centered guy meets crazy guy...I would love to be a fly on the wall for that one.

All about optics at this point, but damn is this entertainment.


jenn
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People, they did not enter illegally. They admitted they did at the end because it is the first step to getting asylum.

They were on a border, doing a piece on the trafficking of women, not to "self-promote" as some have said. Let's not let this go to waste and let some attention end up on what they were working on. Women and children are trafficked at alarming rates into the sex trade.

What these women were doing was REAL investigating journalism, and were taken soley to be the bargaining chip with the US.

I hope they come home soon.


JL
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It would be nice if people would gather all the facts before they rush to judgement. These women are US citizens and deserve the same treatment as any citzen of the US. These women have been accused by a communist government of what would seem to be a relatively minor crime and then so have been given 12 years of hard labour. Fair? Would you expect your government to leave to to rot in a North Korean jail for a minor crime? You may not be so quick to judge if it were your loved one. Furthermore, how do we know for certain the facts of this case? The NK governmenrt has not exactly been forthcoming about it. Do you automatically assume that the government of North Korea has been completely forthcoming with all of the facts? How do you know these women are not being used as pawns by the North Korean government? Do not be so quick to rush to judgement. Get your facts first. If you do not have all the facts - which neither you or I have - reserve judgement.


Carter McKeague
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I would assume polight words are to typed here and not say anything negative about Kim Jeoung Il. Having worked in Korea for 12 years has givn my wife and I a fairly good view on life in that part of the world. Life in North Korea is like nothing a Canadian has, thankflly never had to experience. Starvation, public executons of Christians, these examples touch but the surface. Next time a Canadian wants to complain about having Americans for neighbours, they should be thankful they are not living in South Korea and having a Kim Jeoung Il for a neighbour.


Anonymous Al
said
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Diplomatic mission?

"help me Obi-Wan Kenobi. You're my only hope"


David H in Ottawa
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Can't you see what's going on here? American politics have been infamous for the past ten years, on a global level, thanks to the Bush family. Obama is merely attempting to shed new light on US political views and image. I don't think this is such a bad idea. Instead of dropping bombs or theirs pants, there actually going to try to work political issues out, by means of discussions. A definite step in the right direction.


Citizen of Canada
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JEFFERY: it was a good choice to send Clinton. 1) because Obama doesn't have the experience, 2) Obama has been getting himself into trouble recently every time he opens his mouth.

The real question is why Mrs. Clinton is not the one out there??? Last time I checked she was the secretary of state, not her husband.

I like Obama but clearly the inexperience is starting to show. Its too bad, things like this will show next time the elections come around...



Rick in NB, Ste Marie
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@ Prof pye Chartt;
By feeling emotions for two journalists caught under questionable cirmunstances, you call me "whiney". That's about par for your post.
I suppose that doing an article on the traficing of women and children for sexs is also whiney. Compassion is what i feel for these ladies. Maybe you should brush up on your definition of compassion.
Sorry Prof but when it comes down to it, your just another "Anything But Liberal" poster.



Tails
said
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Hans Brix!!

Do you know how !!%^@(#*^$!! BUSY I AM?????


LT
said
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I wonder if our ex-ministers would go into a hostile territory to free couple of Canadian news junkies? Nahh..not a chance.


MAL of TO
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And it took barely over 6 months for the Ego that was president to step all over his wife's toes. Even if this was approved by the White House it still makes Hillary and Obama look weak. My opinion is that it finishes her and actually benefits Sarah Palin who can now come out as a strong woman who's husband knows his place and use that to fight off the 'Sarah doesn't know squat' accusations...

And pleaaase... enough of the 'accidental journalist' nonsense every time one of them gets tagged. They KNOW exactly where they are and are choosing to execute Gonzo Journalism methods. NK shoots down airliners over their territory, you think they're gonna let reporters walk out without a secret payoff.


Ross
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The two were in the country illegally? Do we know for sure? After all look at the nation we are dealing with.
Also if Clinton is about six feet tall and Looney Tunes is supposed to be about five -one to five- five,then he (LT) is standing on a box plus his high heels or Clinton is in a hole. We can't see their feet but.....


Andrea in Ottawa
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If I am not mistaken, isn't is Obama's Birthday today?


Roger T
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sneaking into a country just to do a documentary on prohibited grounds and got caught up in the mess and now ....Cry Cry Cry

Get over it people, they broke the law and it's up to THAT country's law to punish law breakers.

To ALL journalist, start using common sense and stop putting yourselves on the line for the sake of money and fame.

Do the crime now do the time!


A trade?
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Maybe the U.S could trade Clinton for the two reporters.


Robin
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Wow, you people are so harsh! If it were your family members over there, you would push the government to do whatever it could to get them home. And remember, there is no proof that the reporters actually crossed the border; and 12 years hard labour for crossing a border? puh-lease!


Dan
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Go get em Bill!


bunny
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The only real question here will be the size of the cheque that Clinton is pre-authorized to write. The extortion of money from the West is Kim's only real triumph as leader of that hell-hole. In this case - hostages (kidnapping) traded for either money or sanction relief. The guy is a criminal and like all criminals he will continue to take what he can until we stop paying him. Sieze a couple of his ships and trade them for the reporters. Let him know that the next time he grabs a hostage we'll close his ports - bomb his airfields and wait till the little jerk starves to death.


Phil
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That is good that Bill is there. May God help him to rescue the 2 women. But meeting with the President of Korea problably does not guarantee the release of the 2 women though. It's worth the try, but he will need divine intervention to get those 2 women out of there. It is possible


Roadrobber
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Ex-Presidents serve a useful purpose to current American Administrations. In situations where the sitting President or other high ranking politicians need to distance themselves from certain political situations, such as this one with Kim Jong Il and North Korea, who better to utilize than an Ex-President. No doubt the release of the two journalists were negotiated in advance of Clinton travelling to North Korea. I wonder what was the price of their freedom.


meerkat
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good on you Bill!!




Goldens
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Next stop Iran! Amazing how these reporters keep getting lost at a boarder!
John W
Bridgetown NS


Roger T
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Submission is always best when you have no other choice. Good to see the US is bowing down and taking a step back.

Next mission, Iran with US hiker's held hostage. Will US citizens learn from others mistakes or will they take risk for the sake of fame.

What will the US do with Iran's situation, bow and submit or will they play hard ball!


Watchinfrom Dasideline
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Good News on the release of course, but this smells all too pre orchestrated. From what we know of these North Koreans, everthing comes at a price. Was Billy just the "unofficial visit" face guy so that there would be no critisism of the U.S. government for paying the undisclosed price. No matter I suppose, that is the game of world politics that we, the lesser citizens of earth will never know or be a part of.



Ryan
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It is a waste of global resources when these individuals are freed. All of the work by the various US and NK agencies to free them, when at the root of the situation, was them breaking the law. It doesn't matter if there is free speech in the US. When in NK, the laws of NK should have been respected. I aplaud anyone who attempts to improve the world by reporting or attempting to expose various injustices. However, at the end of the day, if you are caught doing something illegal during the process, then you should face the consequences.


Canadian Taxpayer Sigh
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Bring Clinton back for another term. He is the man. Sure he takes advantage of the younger ladies but hey he gets the job done and his wife does not care. Next is is world peace.


Bill is the Man!!!


Roger T
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Roadrobber 3 1
Ex-Presidents serve a useful purpose to current American Administrations.....

In other words, the current US Government is useless and weak. While the economy falters and the US is dead BROKE with no money left it's going around the globe begging and being less arrogant towards others. We now live in a different world with other super powers which puts the US in a tough position by walking on thin ice or should I say broken glass!

All good things come to and end, when times are good you should treat everyone with respect so you don't use up your lucky charms.



Randy
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The only news worthy of the label comes from reporters doing what the authorities would rather they didn't. Any who think exposing the crimes certain states commit against their citizens is wrong do not deserve to enjoy the freedoms people like these dedicate their lives to promoting.


Bill Steedman
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When a serving President cannot hold meetings with the leader of a rogue state it is common practice for a third party of great stature to make the unofficial request. Every ex-President does this including Cater and Bush senior. Dubya may be the 1st President not to be asked to do this in recent history because of his unpopularity.
This is just smoke and mirrors with a good result. I don't doubt there were "unofficial" discussions held with the Koreans to feel them out on various policies. It's an effective way to communicate with a whack-job and still maintain deniability. Good for Clinton for doing his duty...


jason
said
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I thought Hillary was the foreign affairs chief?


cindyptolemy
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Way to go Bill, you came thru again must have been some fast talking. How much money went to them though.

Good to hear the good news but don't screw it up again America.


Dee
said
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This is why Bill Clinton should still be president. He did more in a day than Obama will do during his four year presidency.


Bob S. Florida, U.S.A.
said
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Hummmm... opening up dialog with a country in China's backyard, good move U.S.!




Kim
said
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I am so glad Bush and his idiots are gone.....


US surrenders to NK.
said
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Negotiating with evil. Soft on terror.


reece
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It's not surprising that the neo-cons posting here having nothing but negativity in their attitudes. When Rush Limbaugh said that he hopes President Obama fails the United States, what Limbaugh stated was the true sentiment of a neo-con. You'd rather see a complete failure of our country then to allow a leader of a specific party show the way to prosperity. Jean Chretien & William Clinton are the two leaders that have shown us that prosperity and in true neo-con spirit, the Conservative leaders of both respective countries showed us poverity and failure and both argue the same thing that the economy and the stars are conspiring against them. Funny - the pattern of failure is always there with the conservatives in power. Perhaps I should pay more attention to the horoscopes after all.

Love your country.


david sawkiw[saskatchewan farmer]
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Way to go Bill!!!!!
We ought to make him president!


frank d.
said
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i smell a book deal coming!


ARJAY
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So once again the notion of compromise trumps confrontation.

What detractors don't seem to realize is that this demonstrates that N. Korea is willing to negotiate. This is a symbolic gesture on their part. The reason is fairly clear: Kim Jong Il is sick,and doesn't need foreign relation problems compounding what will be a problematic future for him. By turning down the burner on his foreign realtion problems, he will have more time to address issues concerning his son's succession to the leadership.

So Bush's confrontational approach got the West exactly nowhere- worse, it led to missle launches and saber-ratting. Obama's policy of rational negotiation and compromise has worked. The U.S. and N. Korea can now sit down and hav substantive talks around nuclear issues.

Count this as a foreign policy triumph for Obama.


Natty
said
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Not one iota of sympathy, these two knew the risks and violated North Korea's National Integrity anyway: For Money.


Hank
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These women were not tourists in Beijing kidnapped by North Korea. They were journalists seeking a juicy story on the border of China and NK. They could have been spies as far as NK was concerned. Their families' feelings are irrelevant since they knew they would be taking a dangerous assignment.
Just an observation on the pictures showing old South Koreans carrying posters. Those weren't exactly made on their home computers. Both sides of the issue were exploiting the situation.


SJW
said
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Roger T...The reporter that Oprah has on her show all the time is Lisa Ling, Laura Ling's sister...besides, why would Oprah have any pull in North Korea??


Lz in Edmonton
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Here is what I see in the Picture of Bill and Kim Jong II.

The US has been pushing Korea to meet them always on "their" terms. 6 party talks. UN Sanctions. etc etc. Even calling North Korea the part of "axis of evil."

Reverse it. If another country was "forcing us" to meet on their terms, accept "international rule" when those same rules didn't apply, called us names, you too would push back ANY way you can.

What the pictures to me show is respect. Kim appreciating the fact that an ex-president asked for the americans personally and, if you can forgive me, not a woman asking for them. This is a very male dominated and crazy society. By showing the respect, they in turn released the prisoners.

Now what would happen if all countries went and met this way and talked? In the Reagan years, he personally called or wrote the USSR. It's the "let's talk" versus "you better do this or else we will do this BS" that worked.

Kindergarten rules apply, not the bully on the street. Unfortunately, though I love the USA, the bully factor just DOES NOT WORK with nut jobs like Kim. Perhaps Iran, Iraq, Bin Laden, et el should be dealt with in the same manner. However, the back up plan, ie. war, should always be the last resort, not the first.


Prof. Pye Chartt
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@ Rick in NB:

You unabashed, card-carrying liberals (a previous self-description of yours) who wake up angry at conservatives need a day to feel good about yourselves...so I'll let your reply comment stand. Enjoy.

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@ Reece:

Nice speech. I'm sure its misguided and misinformed contents keep your partisan jets fueled. (No sane individual wants Obama to fail. Limbaugh was talking about the implementation of his "leftist" policies.) Get a grip.

The Chretien reference was hilarious, though. Does he rank higher on your Political Hero List than Trudeau?

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@ ARJAY

I admire your ideological enthusiasm.

Bill Clinton whispers into Kim Jong Il's ear and serves as the catalyst in something that EVERYONE predicted was going to happen (the release of two female amateur vanity "journalists"), and you're recording it as a globe-saving triumph that shall beget eternal peace and tranquility.

Nice. Bottle that stuff.


stan wilder
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I read with interest people's wildly, divergent points of views in these forums.

I thank that we live in a country where democracy, freedom of speech, & civil liberties. Wait a second thats the US. Ok I'm still thankful.

However I think that in this case thanks should be given to where its truly owed. The Obama office. No foreign mission is done without the express approval & planning of the white house. Clinton or not.


Mike
said
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Too bad he still wasn't prez. The man is a genius.


USE YOUR HEADS
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Good Grief !!! What does it matter if it did cost the government or taxpayers money to get the reporters out of N.K. ....
IT'S NOT CANADIAN MONEY!!! Most former U.S. presidents have ALWAYS been used in one form or another after having left office; why should this concern we Canadians? He did NOT step on ANY toes ... neither Hilary's nor Obama's because he DID NOT GO WITHOUT PERMISSION FROM THE CURRENT U.S. GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS!

jimestep
said
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Can't help but wonder how much Aid will now come North Korea's way!

Of course they'll be no strings attached ---- More goodies for the Military and hardline party leaders --- nothing for the folks.

Obama like Clinton will trust and NOT VERIFY!!!!!!!!!!!


Rockstar
said
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Good on Bill Clinton, Good on North Korea.
It's really nice to hear about something good in the news for a change. Maybe you don't have to take up arms to achieve peace after all?


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