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Date: Wed. Jun. 17 2009 7:44 PM ET
Prime Minister Stephen Harper says it's "good news" that his government is co-operating with the Liberals on a deal to review Canada's Employment Insurance rules, an agreement that will avert a summer election call.
A six-member panel will undertake the review, with three members appointed by the prime minister and the remaining three appointed by Liberal Leader Michael Ignatieff. It will report back to Canadians on Sept. 28.
The deal was sewn up Wednesday morning, following three meetings between the two leaders in a 24-hour period.
"We found a way to make progress for Canadians on employment insurance and we found a way to hold the government accountable," Ignatieff said.
Harper and Ignatieff met twice on Tuesday and had a phone conversation on Wednesday, before coming to terms on the deal.
"The good news we have today for people is that the breakthrough we actually have is a willingness of the government and the Official Opposition to work together on an important public policy matter," Harper said at a news conference on Wednesday. "I think it's always preferable that parties work together in these difficult times and that's what Canadians want."
The prime minister told reporters he spoke with Ignatieff about his Employment Insurance concerns, but Harper provided few other details about the talks.
"We discussed in very general terms our views on Employment Insurance, I wouldn't want to reveal anything prejudicial," Harper said.
The prime minister hinted that the EI system needs to be more uniform, though he said his party does not support dropping eligibility to the 360-hour mark, as has been suggested by the Liberals.
The Liberals issued a press release Wednesday morning describing the new panel as an "employment insurance working group."
The panel will be tasked with coming up with proposals "to allow self-employed Canadians to participate voluntarily" in the EI system, and to "improve eligibility requirements in order to ensure regional fairness."
According to the Liberals, "the parties will work in good faith to implement any consensus recommendations made by the working group."
At a news conference in Ottawa late Wednesday morning, Ignatieff said the panel will "seek to present to Canadians by September of this year, specific legislative proposals to bring the self-employed into the EI system. As you know, they are the largest group of unemployed Canadians who have no coverage," he said.
He said the panel would also work to "improve fairness, access and equality" within the EI system.
Ignatieff said he had selected Liberal MPs Michael Savage and Marlene Jennings to serve on the working group, along with his head of policy, Kevin Chan.
Harper said Human Resources and Skills Development Minister Diane Finley will be one of the Conservative-appointed members of the panel, along with an official from her department. The prime minister said he has not yet made a decision on who the third member who he will appoint to the panel.
Fall election?
The prime minister also agreed to give the Liberals an Opposition day at the end of September, something CTV's Ottawa Bureau Chief Robert Fife said could force an election, if the Liberals decide to move a non-confidence motion at that time.
The Liberals are expected to start voting against the government in the fall, setting up the possibility of an election, which Harper called "crazy."
"The last thing anybody should be doing today is saying we've got an agreement for now, but what that really means is we are going to defeat the government in the fall. I think that would be crazy," Harper said.
However, it is unclear if the NDP, who have consistently voted against the Tory government, would be willing to continue to do so knowing there could be an election.
NDP deputy leader Thomas Mulcair told CTV News Channel's Power Play the NDP votes against the government "on a case-by-case" basis and did not rule out propping up the government in the fall.
Mulcair criticized the Tory-Liberal deal and said Ignatieff "settled for nothing."
Bloc Quebecois leader Gilles Duceppe also lashed out at the Liberal leader and said "he choked."
Both the NDP and Bloc Quebecois have increasingly aimed their guns at the Liberal party, as polls show the Grits inching ahead.
The Conservatives had not intended to have an Opposition day until late December, shortly before the House of Commons shuts down before the holidays.
An internal Conservative memo circulated on Wednesday, however, did not concede any points to the Liberals as a result of the deal.
"The Liberals have reversed themselves on EI reform (their 360-hour demand has been abandoned) and withdrawn the threat to force an unnecessary summer election," the memo said.
"Instead, the Liberals will vote for the next round of stimulus in our Economic Action Plan."
Access to EI has become a thorn in the government's side in recent months, as more and more Canadians have found themselves needing federal support after losing their jobs.
The Liberals have asked that the government lower EI eligibility to 360 hours, the equivalent of 45 work days, though the prime minister has called that target "irresponsible."
Harper said earlier this week that his priority was acting on an earlier campaign promise, to extend EI benefits to self-employed workers who are not currently covered under EI.
With files from The Canadian Press


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Jan
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Gord. Robson, Nova Scotia
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IGNATIEFF as weak and undecisive.
There will be no election, the LIBERALS are FAR from ready for one!
Election now
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Rick in NB
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bruce in london
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Can the liberals produce more isotopes?Will they have a smaller deficit?Will thier EI plan work better for all Canadians?Can they predict better when we will get out of deficit?The answer to all these questions is NO.
The media should start doing a better job at reporting and stop trying to make news where none exists.
Barb in Calgary
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I have paid EI for 37 years and collected it for a few months 21 years ago. I should be covered longer and my amount s/b higher than someone who has been in and out of work or someone who has never paid into it????? It is not rocket science.
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david sawkiw[saskatchewan farmer]
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Two guys dictating the future of the entire country.
And we ridicule countries like iran and iraq,, go figger......
JB in Calgary
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And to work 45 days and then be able to take the rest of the year off is going to CRUSH our economy. I would rather see government spending that stops people from having to go on EI.
Continue with the infrastructure spending not EI. I would rather see money spent to build better roads and transit, I would NOT want to see money spent to allow people to sit on their butts faster and longer. And the Liberal supporters say that Harper doesn't know what he's doing?
Mark Smith (Montreal, QC)
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Harper has learnt well that he hasn't the control, nor the mandate to execute such control, over parliament, and Ignatieff is smart enough to realise that this is not the time for another election, but instead use his opposition powers to force Harper to concede on specific issues.
I doubt the Liberals will get everything they want and the conservatives won't get everything want, and that's what's good for Canada, since neither party has been given the mandate to rule unopposed.
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We're a parliamentary family.
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Wow! Who saw this coming?! I thought we were headed for an election for sure! Phew. Thank goodness that's been averted.
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"Clark said that over the past two days, many Liberals have softened their interest in going into an election, choosing to side with the deal their leader has been working out with the prime minister."
TRANSLATION: The Liberals put down their glue bottle and realized that they were going to get their butts kicked...at the polls and in the court of public opinion.
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Let the political games continue. Mr. Ignatieff, it's your serve again.
Barb in Kingston
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Janet
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ADM Saskatchewan
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Reg
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Alan
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Why do I get the impression he is like an actor reading a script he doesn't understand. Sorry that wasn't fair he is still apprenticing in this job.
Canada Goose Whistler
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Harper will continue to do what he's told, because he's just in it for the power of being PM.
Funny that the cons support a man like this, he has thrown away all his conservative values & seems to be happy adopting all liberal policies.
Good work Mr Iggnatieff!
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Ed, Toronto
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But there is a very simple solution to the EI issue: limit the benefit according to the contribution. If you've paid for years, you collect for the max. But if you've only been putting in for 45 days, then you can only collect for 45 days.
Or emulate CPP. There you earn credits. People who have paid less or for less time collect less. Let EI work based on credits.
M M B Ont
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Harper is doing a good job for Canada under very difficult and unpredictable conditions.
Aaron in Toronto
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I do not believe there will be an election even if Harper give him a finger (in private of course).
The Liberal party is broken and dead broke and they can't afford an election at this time, just some cheap shot at getting the poll up for them.
It's funny how they will complaint but yet could not provide any alternative solution and better yet not even a platform for them to stand on.
I would like to propose that each federal party provide a written platform that is clear for everyone and if they failed on delivering the promise then there is say a $1 Million fine to the party.
People should also look at the actual fact instead of blindly support the party they love. This is a global recession and Canada alone can't solve the problem within hours but yet people believe that the LPC is the solution to everything.
Can somebody do something about the gas price while you are at it? Middle class citizen in Canada are suffering big time and no one seems to care.
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Tom Clark thinks this is going to be an easy sell to the Liberal Caucus, about half of whom, according to reports lead by Bob Rae, are demanding an election now?
IGNATIEFF BLINKED. plain and simple.
Harper said the would announce some possible changes to EI in the fall. Ignatieff DEMANDED IMMEDIATE changes in exchange for supporting the spending estimate vote this coming Friday.
What did Iggy get? According to reports, a blue ribbon panel to, OVER THE SUMMER, examine the EI system and recommend possible changes when they report back IN THE FALL. Which is when Harper said he would announce changes.
Obviously we need to see what, if anything else is in the deal, but, on the EI front IGGY CAVED!
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What part do you not understand when the voters say,NO ELECTION now or in September.
Lets say you are still power hungry and to hell with the Elector.
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Steve Robinson in Calgary
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THE Fatman
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This is how Ignatieff messes with you until he's done - ANOTHER line in the sand. Unreal.
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Thomas, Sydney mines, Nova Scotia
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Richard in Ontario
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It's not hard to understand the Liberals not wanting an election. Their cupboard is almost bare and they need time to replenish. They haven't had the good fortune of being in power for the last few years so haven't had their hands on the taxpayers purse strings. It appears their supporters aren't helping them with donations either. I'm sure Mr Ignatieff has been told to do what is necessary to hold off until times are better financially for the party, so work with Mr Harper.
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K D in Alberta
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It's time for you to face the facts - this had nothing to do with the Liberals perceiving that they would lose an election if called. The current numbers nationally, and especially the numbers inside of Ontario and Quebec, are even more positive than they were for Harper in the last election. Fact is, when you have a 10 point lead in the polls, you are almost guaranteed a sweep, and that is what the Liberals will do in Ontario and Quebec, where the CONs are all but shut out. So quit your cocky little ho-downs, Conservatives - if an election were called tomorrow, it is the Conservative party that will be absolutely demolished in Parliament, NOT the Liberals.
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Norm in NB
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David in Whitby
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Independently Minded
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Both sides got what they wanted.
Harper hasn't yet budged on his position on EI and Iggy got his movement on EI reform.
Now Harper faces another confidence day in September and Iggy didn't get the NDP EI bill passed before the summer.
Neither got what they wanted, instead they got a compromise to keep the "boss" out of a summer election.
The trick now is for both leaders to keep their hot heads under control for the next few days so that neither side says or does anything stupid to provoke the other.
We ain't out of the woods yet, but we can see a clearing ahead.
I for one have no issues with a summer election, however the rest of the boss does, so I have to accept their majority opinion.
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Why not this. Everyone who pays into EI, both employed and self-employed, pay into an account managed by the Federal EI program. Everyone has a S.I.N., that's your account number. The money goes in, it may go up if they invest properly, and you pay a fee to have it managed. If you need to use it during your working life, you collect up to what you have put in. Then, at, say age 65, you get 80% back or some value less than your total so there is money in there to keep the program running, etc. This way, I'm not paying for you, and you're not paying for me, but collectively, the money is working for all people in the country.
I know, so simple, it's dumb.
This is the way these social programs need to work, and then it's fair for all. If we all pay the same rate of GST and that's fair, then why not apply similar "fairness" rules to all other aspects of our social programs?
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I applaud BOTH leaders for having the foresight and the intestinal fortitude to stand up to the 'hawks' in both parties, and work for the betterment of all Canadians.
I am told that both leaders have at least their undergrad degrees. I am glad they also both have their "Bachelor of Common Sense" degrees.
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As for the Isotope problem? It's obvious that the feds cannot run the facility. Maybe we should be setting up strict guidelines and making it private. I am sure a business could be profitable building and running a medical reactor (again I say with strict federal guidelines and checks).
As for EI... That is the biggest money grabbing joke this country has. They have Billions in surplus, but they find every way not to pay you. It's like a fund for a bunch of people wanting to make a work project for themselves with federal backing. They will do whatever is necessary including spying on the people (Legally entitled to collect it) just to make sure they do not pay out to much so they can pay their execs millions in salaries.
NOT FAIR ON ALL COUNTS. These problems are not only the Conservative problem but it's been problems that have always been there under all gov's but no one has the bah-gumption (yes I know it’s not a real word) to fix them, and all they want to do is posturing and posing in parliament while their constituents suffer. And remember even if a person didn't vote for you, they are still your constituent and you are responsible to them.
KD Ontario
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there should be some sort of a credit system that if you have worked for 20 years and paid into EI and never collected as a opposed to someone who has only work for 2 years and they are both entitled to the same lenght of time they can collect
a credit system like 1 year worked 3 months EI benifits
there would need to be a maximum of 12-36 months
just a thought from someone who has been fortunate enough not to have ever had to be on EI but may need it someday
GF
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If Iggy is not happy with the suggestions put forward by this blue ribbon panel, TWO OF WHOM WILL BE SELECTED BY IGNATIEFF, the Liberals can move to bring the government down in September?
Iggy, if you don't like what the panel comes up with, since YOU selected two of the members, YOU can only blame YOURSELF, not the panel or the Conservatives.
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Darren in Ontario
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I agree 100%. With a minority government all parties have to work together to govern the country. The Bloc and the NDP haven't figured that out yet.
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Canadians - Winner
Liberals - Winner
Conservatives - Winners
This is as it should be in a minority situation.
Those who want another election now are shot disturbers.
The uncertainty of an election could only slow down the approvals for new projects, with the result that there would be less help for the unemployed.
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There are, however, companies in my area that employ high-paid workers for 6 months of the year, then lay them off for 6 months to draw EI benefits. This happens year after year after year. EI is nothing more than another tax on the taxpayer and/or another program that's brutally abused.
PBW
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Of course you can! This is a combination of politics and a public online forum for those of us who like a daily rant.
Anything goes!
PS Who ever said that discussions on politics were rational!
Mike
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Let the Cons govern and finish there term and then go to the polls.
Gregory D
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Glad there is no election though.
Everyone have a good summer as I AM a teacher I am off to the cottage for the summer. ha
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A trait he must have learned from George W.
Thank god no election some tax payer monies has now been saved and can be directed to where it is really needed. EI for those that need it even though we are still dealing with an old Liberal EI platform that has been out of date for many years, thanks to a previous Liberal government.
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To watch Mr. Ignatieff posturing like a kingmaker and a king in waiting is unbelievable... Reality check - people ... since the Liberals got us into this mess with EI - of course they would know some of the solutions - but the brains are not all with the Liberals....
Why is it the international community thinks we are on the right track but we Canadians cant see it ... answer: because we are blinded by our love to hate something/ someone and disagree instead of looking at the positives and work together!
I implore you to voice that we do NOT need an election now nor in the fall - we need to stay the course and get our economy kicking - not spending $100 million for an election...
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Ryan in Burlington
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Quit charging Tax on those EI earnings!
When you get EI, you also get taxed on it. The crazy thing is that you pay into EI when you are working. So, when you get EI, you are actually getting back what you pay into when you are working...and you get taxed on it! What a scam!!!
What sense does it make if you have to pay a tax on a benefit that you already pay tax on when you are employed??? Oh not sense, but CENTS!
Getting taxed while on EI is so stupid and that should be addressed!
THIS IS ONE OF THE GREAT CANADIAN SCAMS!!!
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Canada A Welfare State?
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45 days of work to collect EI is rediculous. There are many people in the country that pay and pay and will never collect a penny of EI. We are now retired and could never collect. There once was a time that you were embarrassed to collect. You simply got another job as quick as you could.
NOw you collect and don't bother looking for a job until the money from EI is finished.
We have created a society that believes that the gov't should pay for everything and that we should get everything for free.
There is nothing for free it costs the tax payer. People wake up that is US!
Get back to simplistic.
User pay. A simple saftey net. Not one that creates a welfare society
Brian in Calgary
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Whatever Prof. Ignatieff's other admirable qualities might be, quite frankly, he is coming off as another political dud.
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Larry NL
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CarlAB
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Harper is terrified of Ignatieff. Either that or he's just so desperate to cling to power that he'll sell out his own belief system.
Of course, there's aways c) all of the above.
Prof. Pye Chartt
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Those cheering and shouting with joy that this completely forecasted "turn of events" demonstrates how our parliamentary system is supposed to function in the case of a minority government are being, once more, deservingly bamboozled by superficial politics as usual.
The fact is, folks, that no accomplishment of definitive SUBSTANCE was yielded from the meeting between PM Harper and Mr. Ignatieff. The Conservative government of the day was planning to implement changes to the EI system near the close of this summer. For his part, Mr. Ignatieff failed to have his nutty changes implemented.
What Canadians have received, instead, is the illustrious promise of a "Blue Ribbon Panel" to examine the situation. Wonderful. What a victory for us all. Now this "working group" of unaccountable government-backed nobodies can figure the whole thing out. Beautiful.
If you like political games, and subscribe to bull-crap rather than decisive action from your elected representatives, then, indeed, this is a great day. However, if you expect those handed federal power and trust in Ottawa to actually GOVERN without continually posturing for an election, today is another time to shake your head.
Mr. Ignatieff is playing around, and PM Harper is quite happy to indulge him.
All the naive fools in Canada have turned it into a farcical spectator sport.
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We have a minority government and an economy that is in dire need of repair.
It is about time that all parties get together and do what is best for Canadians.
We don't need an election every 6-12 months like Mr. Layton would want to see and hopefully form the government. (Which will never happen).
Elizabeth, Ontario
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Good Job!
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Another great example of how Canadian style democracy actually works!
LH
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A Koster - BC
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Btw, does Obama get 3 months summer vacation or does he actually take his job seriously?
Shawn Holden Edson Alberta
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1. The media has way too much time on their hands and rather do some real research to back up any stories they produce, they would rather pick away at things - something like bored little children - who really need to be sent for a time out - hopefully we will get that this summer since parliament is not sitting and there is no election.
2. EI for the self-employed is just silly - being self-employed for 15 years if you don't have work - you go out and get work, and you need to save for those times when work is not there - in may business that is typcially November, December and January and then again in June, July and August - so I have money in the bank to cover my expenses during that time.
3. This panel will do nothing which is just fine since by the time they report back, the EI crisis (as defined by an ill-informed media) will be largely gone - if there is a need to revise hours of work - move it up, up and up and then make EI a real insurance program rather than 'extended welfare'
Retired Soldier in Kingston, ON
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By listening to their constituents, thinking creatively and acting in the best interests of all Canadians by electing compromise rather than engage in an unnecessary and very expensive election they have helped restore a semblance of trust in the political system!
As tax-payers, Canadians demand that their politicians spend their hard-earned dollars wisely; unecessary elections do not qualify in this regard!
Pro Patria!
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Work for 45 days and take the rest of the year off with EI pay while I get my butt out of bed every morning for a year to pay for them to collect!!!
Hmm - I can see the EI numbers rising big time because you know there are people who are just waiting in line to take advantage of this one!!
Elaine in Alberta
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"Barb from Calgary. Get your facts right. Self employed do pay into EI and they are forced to pay into Workers Comp which they cannot collect either."
Maybe you should get your facts straight. The fact is the only EI the self employed pay is for their employees. They do not pay for themselves, and are not allowed to at this point. The self employed may in fact pay into WCB to allow themselves to be covered as well as their employees.
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Certainly makes your vote decision making easy.
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Brad in Calgary
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Perhaps NOW though we can get on with the business of actually improving this great country of ours instead of constantly bickering and wasting time. There is too much at stake here for our future to keep on trying to see who has the biggest.
Layton in Moncton
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People talk as if we are a bunch of slackers looking to milk the system by wanting to be eligible for EI. Quite the contrary -- we are entrepreneurs who help provide jobs for others and boost the economy.
I have been working since I was 16 (I'm 41 now)and have NEVER collected EI. I also have two young children and had to go back to work within a couple of weeks of giving birth each time because I was not able to pay into EI and receive maternity benefits. This has resulted in higher childcare costs as I have to have in-home care so that I was able to breastfeed my infants.
Self-employed people just want to have the same benefits and protections as other workers. We will pay for them, just as other employees do. Most people of an entrepreneurial nature are not interested in getting a free ride.
Of course, there will always be people who abuse the system. That's the price we pay for maintaining this important safety net.
Steve the Pundit
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Funny how pragmatism and reality can move Iggy from "We must move to solve this NOW!" to "Oh, just get back to us with something before September."
Can't wait to see what this so-called "blue ribbon panel" comes up with...
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Go outside people. Take a breath. Enjoy the summer.
George
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Larry I Ontario
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MAL of TO
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Our current Prime Minister is certainly the best person for these times. Unlike other recent Canaian leaders of both major parties, there is no aura of corruption and sleaze attached to this man. He is an honest man, with the courage of his convictions and the welfare of our citizens in his heart.
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Alex (Toronto)
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The Liberals are ready for an election if necessary. The voters aren't. They weren't last year when Harper broke his own law to call an election, and they aren't this summer. Nobody wants to waste $300 million to pick the same group of MPs again, give or take a few seats.
The only way for a minority government to actually work is for the governing party to cooperate with the opposition. Harper doesn't do that, which is why the Conservatives get so little done. They'd rather let bills die and complain about past governments than deal with present crises. They spend Question Period criticizing rather than answering questions. If they're going to be negative all the time, the Tories should go back to being in opposition. Never saw Chretien or Trudeau spend so much time talking about the other guys. Good or bad, when they were in government, they actually governed.
Doug BC
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The opposition has two faces when it comes to the debt,and deficits.On one day they want more spending,on the nxt day they whine about the size of the deficit.SO that should not be an excuse to go to the polls.The medical isotope problem is years in the making.AECL should be called to account for the money they spent on the MAPLE reactors.You have to be blatantly partisan to lay this debacle on Harper.
That leaves EI.I think some changesx might be in order.But those changes should NOT lead to access that is to easy.That leads to abuses,and encourages abusers to live a life style that includes part time work and EI as a regular part of their income.ON that count Harper is right.Nor am I sure that the qualifying period should be the same for everyone.While it SOUNDS fair,the fact remains that some areas have advantages over others.If you lose a job in Vancouver,you have thousands of places to seek work.If you lose a job in a small,rural,one or two industry community,you will likely have fewer options when seeking work.If the Liberals want to spend another $1.5 billion dollars on EI,EVERY YEAR,they should tell us which taxes will be raised to pay for that,or which programs they will reduce to get the money.
In short,there IS NO REAL ELECTION ISSUE here.Noe of the issues the opposition have put forward justifies a $300 election that will almost certainly produce another minority government.
Harper is the leader of the government.Get the best deal you can,but let him govern.When the Liberals win,let them govern,and even change Harpers legislation.
FOR NOW,MAKE PARLIMENT WORK
Dan
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Iggy is just like Dion. Up, down, left, right, in, out...
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Ignatieff obviously doesn't want to call an election right now. We're smack dab in the middle of a recession, the government is posting a $50 billion deficit AND by all accounts, the Liberals don't have the money right now to pay for a campaign. Providing you COULD win the election, would you want to take over the mess that is the economy right now? Of course not. You wait until the recession is over and the economy rebounds so that it makes you look golden.
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CTV fan.
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On another note, how fair is Tom Clarke? I think he is wonderful.Poweer play is something to watch every day!
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political leaders working in
unison at this time. This is
what Parliament needs at this
time to help parts of Canada
that have been hit hard by the recession.By showing that
our politicians are working
for the economic recovery it
will help in that recovery.I
hope that Parliament can be
in session till next spring as I can see all the Canadian
economy booming and not just
the provinces of Manitoba and
Saskatechewan. Next spring is
the right time for the next
Federal election.To all my
fellow Canadians I hope you
have a great summer.
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Let's hope the Cons and Libs are reading these comments and getting a few ideas...
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Thanks to Mr. Ignatieff, who persevered in his attempt to force the government to show concern for the average Canadian, we have a chance to reform the E.I. rules to provide some help for those suffering from this recession, just as the coalition persevered to force the government to table a budget that would recognize the impact of this economic meltdown.
Thanks too to Mr. Harper, whose willingness to compromise his principles has saved Canadians from a summer election. Once again Mr. Harper has shown himself to be a true pragmatist, rather than a committed Conservative.
Congratulations to both parties. They have shown that a minority government can provide the necessary leadership, provided it can be forced to take the wishes of the majority into account.
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DO you realy believe you should get EI for 45 days of work ? That is what this is about ?
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LDL in ONT - I'll think for myself thankyou.
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Why does there have to be a winner and a loser ? Can't the story be presented without a tv journalist telling us who he thinks comes out smelling like a rose. Judging by the thumbs up vs. thumbs down tallies that question (if we must answer it) is obvious.
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What has happened in reality is that the election has been postphoned till the end of September. At that time, the country will go the polls, and Harper will be voted out of office.
Just wait.
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I work seasonal have for 10 years and no its not a sweet deal.I work from apr to the end of nov so its more then a few months.Yet i still can't get ei.
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As for Duceppe, why is his party even in federal politics when he only represents 1 province out of 10. There should be something in the constitution that if you want to have a party in federal politics, you have represent the whole country.
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Uncertainty has dragged Canada from "Minimally affected" to Unpredictable Deficits since onset of Economic Crisis, a situation which will not correct itself.
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Oh Pye Chartt, your arrogance is only matched by your party's leader.
Here's a thought, maybe some are smart enough to understand how a minority parliament works.
Maybe, quite possibly, there are many who are not so embittered by the actions of the sitting PM as you.
Politically, this works to Harper's favor being characterized as obstinate and bullish on even the smallest of issues.
He needs to present himself in a different light if he hopes to garner any "new" votes outside his base.
He lost nothing and gained a bit of good P.R. in the process. He couldn't guarantee an election win and with a party that is getting very impatient with his lack of electoral success, that is dangerous for him.
An election this summer would likely have resulted in one of two scenarios, a Liberal minority or another Conservative minority. In the either instance I have little doubt the man would come under a partisan review and face possible replacement.
This is not something he wants. So long as he is sitting in the big chair he is untouchable by the impatient hawks in his own ranks.
Some could argue it's his own fault, others will choose to blame everyone else, that is irrelevant. Harper is probably feeling a LOT of pressure to come up big or get out of the way...
So far he is coming up short and the longer he keeps the big chair the longer he is safe and the longer he has to turn around his prospects.
Despite how the partisan hawks posting on this blog are saying he is playing with Iggy, the reality is that the Cons may have the cash, but not the support. Harper can't afford to bring in a third minority.
Mutually beneficial deal, IMO
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Dosen't anyone see EXACTLY how this can be abused so bad it would make the gun registry look like small potatoes.
This is bloody insane doing this. Trades folks in consruction that work piece work will absolutley love this one. Collect EI from one job and work piece work on another because when you work piece work there is no paper trail. Contracters declare piece workers as casual labour on thier taxes. I know, I worked piece work for 35 years and not once or ever was any kind of t-4 submitted to Rev Canada. It was always up to me as to how much income I reported and how much tax I paid. THIS WILL BE WIDE OPEN ABUSE AT IT'S FINEST AND IT WILL BE STUCK TO HARPER.
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He cocked the gun and then found himself looking down his own barrel.
If he doesn't know it by now, he will be quickly reminded by the old party hawks that he is only going to be forgiven for "one" mistake like this.
They will not go down the Dion road again and will have no tolerance for a leader who does.
The truth of the matter is, that money is not the issue for the Libs. It's the lack of readiness to fight an election.
They have to fast track their candidates, particularly in the swing provinces of Quebec and Ontario.
Harper isn't stupid and that's why he called Iggy's bluff, but Harper has his own reasons for not letting the plug be pulled.
If you look at the deal, its apparent that it's a face saving panel to avert a summer election both leaders don't want and allow them to look cooperative to the boss and strong to their bases.
There will be an election in the fall, it all comes down to how ready each party will be to fight it.
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I'm 70 years old next year, I have been in the workforce for 54 years, I go to work every day and yes I have been unemployed - twice and in both cases for more than one year while I sought employment in keeping with my professional training. I did not and would not collect UIC even though I had been forced to pay in to it. My wife and I have always lived within our means and saved for potentially rainy days. I also took on some very menial work during those periods to help make ends meet.
I seriously doubt that we would have talked about bringing down a sitting government over issues like this latest bit of nonsense if people would simply live within their means, save and be willing to look for work - even now it is out there in some form if you care to look for it. I guess I subscribe to lines in a song by the late Stan Rogers which states:
"I take nothing free,
And that makes me,
An Idiot, I suppose".
However, we live in an age of "entitlement" and we'll continue to pay even more for yet another "bailout".
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Neither enjoys enough unqualified support or has enough new ideas at this time to bother with an election.
Both had best take their sorry poll nubers as an indication to do better in the future.
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we'd all be better for it.
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I left the Liberal party when Dion was leader and now there is no way I will go back.
Ignatieff is GUTLESS
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Congratulations to both the Cons and the Libs for working together towards an EI solution. I'd have absolutely hated another election. It's so easy to be critical. Just ask the NDP & Bloc. It seems they vote against everything!
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One problem he has though is too many folks remember all the corruption (i.e. - sponsorship scandal) the last time the Libs were in power (and when roll call was done in Parliament many Liberal mps didn't know whether to say "present" or "not guilty")
Iggy is just trying to look for or create an opportunity to get power - nothing else.
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