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Date: Tue. Jun. 2 2009 11:18 PM ET
Brazil's defence ministry says a five-kilometre path of debris spotted Tuesday in the Atlantic Ocean is the wreckage from an Air France jet that crashed two days ago.
Defence Minister Nelson Jobin said the debris "confirms that the plane went down" several hundred kilometres north of the Fernando de Noronha islands, an area in line with the plane's flight path to Paris.
Earlier in the day, Brazilian air force pilots spotted an orange life buoy, airplane seat, debris and signs of fuel.
The plane disappeared with 228 passengers and crew on board on Sunday during a flight between Rio de Janeiro and Paris, France.
Three commercial ships were in the area on Tuesday and France planned to send a ship capable of deep-water exploration to join the search.
Brazilian air force spokesperson Jorge Amaral said the pilots spotted two separate debris fields about 60 kilometres away from each other. However, they saw no signs of life.
"The locations where the objects were found are toward the right of the point where the last signal of the plane was emitted," Amaral said. "That suggests that it might have tried to make a turn, maybe to return to Fernando de Noronha, but that is just a hypothesis."
French and Brazilian military aircraft had been searching a vast section of ocean between Brazil and the west coast of Africa, for signs of the plane.
U.S. satellite technology was also being used in the search.
On Monday afternoon, a family member confirmed to CTV News that 49-year-old Brad Clemes, originally from Guelph, Ont., was among those on the flight.
Clemes was an employee with Coca-Cola living in Belgium who was born and raised in Southern Ontario, according to reports.
Along with Clemes, the airline said Monday that 61 French people, 58 Brazilians, 26 Germans and nine Italians were on board, among others.
Investigators have been trying to piece together what happened in the final moments before the jetliner vanished over the Atlantic Ocean.
The plane disappeared from radar screens around 10:14 p.m. ET Sunday, roughly four hours after taking off from Rio, bound for Paris.
It vanished after sending automated messages saying it had encountered a storm and had experienced electrical problems.
If no survivors are found, the incident will be the deadliest commercial crash since 2001.
French President Nicolas Sarkozy said Monday afternoon that the "prospects of finding survivors are very small."
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I applaud the budget, even though Health Care and education may stay unscathed. Sadly this cannot last and I worry to later this year where cuts will become enviable. If anything, this provides the Wildrose Alliance plenty of ammo when an election is called.


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maggie c in sudbury
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cindydwyer
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Fed-Up Canadian!!!
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Bob in Ottawa
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May they rest in peace.
Peggy Carroll, Cole Harbour, NS
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Marcela from Brazil
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Marcela from Brazil
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John
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You just wonder how they would expect to retrieve the black boxes when the ocean is so deep at this point.
Frank Curran
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Rachelle
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Ally
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I wonder what is meant by the receiving of an automated message from the plane?
rita gomes
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My condolences to the families.My thoughts are with them.
Julius R
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Sad in the aviation world
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Why don't these planes use GPS.. such that the TAM pilot would take a GPS reading when he saw the possible points of fire and narrow down the search area? or any plane that sends a distress signal of any sort should automatically have a GPS reading with that signal...
Hind sight is always 20/20 in the wake of unforseen tragedy.
God speed
greatful for life
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Sudbury
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SG
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I heard on CNN yesterday that they think the plane was hit by lightning. I thought planes got hit all the time.
K.Matroskin
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Also, as I heard, modern radars cannot see the plane above Atlantic only if it flies on very low altitude. It takes about 5-7 hours to cross Europe from West to East. Are they saying that this jet could go on very low altitude and continue flying for 10-14 hours without radio contact?
In short, I don't believe that they don't have exact position of aircraft plus-minus a few kilometers after the plane went below radar visibility.
From The East
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Aircraft, like the A330 do use GPS and in some instances they do transmit this information to ground stations. In addition, ground radar also tracks aircraft position and altitude. Unfortunately, aircraft that venture out over the Atlantic or Pacific sometimes fall into blind holes where even the best technology does not always provide the answers we are looking for. Once the flight data and voice cockpit recorders are recovered, answers will follow. Until then, it does no service to arm chair the cause or events that lead to this tragic event.
Peg city Gal
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May they rest in peace.
Craig in Edmonton
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Alam
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Jim in Ottawa
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marina de vellis
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Suzanne Lajeunesse
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corporate pilot
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It's bizzare that they went towards a storm like that. It doesn't make sense to me.
I went through a squall line once and I will never do that again.
Debbie ( Alberta)
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Jennifer patrick Berens River, Manitoba
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Tono
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I guess this is where they send divers down.
I guess this is Saint Anthony answering our prayers from yesterday.
Carole
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Seems the Airbus does not have that good a track record. The last one to go down after this one was Nov 12 2001, 265 lost; Feb 16 1998, 203 lost, Sept 26 1997, 234 lost, Apr 26 1994, 264 lost...and that is just the Airbusses,I think my two feet will remain on the ground.
Again, my prayers are with the families.
God bless you all.
Melissa
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Military Aviator
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Bill from Kingston
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Lina
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May they all rest in peace.
Franziska, West Vancouver BC
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Jay
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MAL
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Paco
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V.L. in Burlington
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KJ in Kingston Ontario
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Ravi S., Edmonton
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CYL
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Tazzy
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Gino Under
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KC-Bby
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Denis in Maple Ridge
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St. Catharines
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Very sad for all aboard and their families.
Stephanie/Shihan/Stephan Charles
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jennifer
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xx God bless
S Primus
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mike
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Vancouver Islander
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Drew from Ottawa
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Mashrab
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Brent
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paul
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Ziggy from Ottawa
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Safdar Akbari
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With all the time, money and efforts being spent on aviation safety when will we actually make air travel 100% safe??
Doug BC
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As to "Ally's" post,from what I understand from the news is that the "automated message" from the plane is a message send by the computers on board to inform the maintenance department of any anomolies in on board systems.It apparently is send without input by the crew,and most likely without them even knowing the message went out.Apparently this is quite routine n modern airplane systems.
Like others,I hope the day comes when we all know,for sure,exactly what caused this tragic loss.
Planes do get struck by lightning regularly,and without serious damage.I guess that still doesn't rule that out as a cause because it still seems possible that voltage like that cah cripple computer systems like the ones used to control most of the functions on this plane.
Not to dash the hopes of those still clinging to the hought of survivors,but a safe landing on water,with this kind of an airplane is extremely unlikely.Made more unlikely by the conditions they were flying in,and the rough seas they were over.A great deal more challenging than the Hudson River landing of a few months ago.
I am puzzled by "Caroles" assertion that this plane has a bad record.I could be wrong here,but I actually thought it had an extremely good record.Does anyone else have accurate information regarding that?
Kevino
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The statement regarding "Airbuses" is ignorant. All modern aircraft are very safe.
Unfortunately when there are air tragedies many people parish at one time. Don't forget that on average 200 people die in traffic accidents in the world daily. Do you drive a car? Should we make dumb statements like; it looks like "Dodge Trucks" have a bad track record because hundreds of people die in them a year!
Geoff, Calgary
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Aircraft used to fly by wire - literally steel cables between the yoke and control surfaces. Even if servo-assist was lost, the pilots could still brute-force their combined controls.
"Fly by computer/electronics" would be more accurate, and the whole concept has always worried me when applied to commercial aircraft. Loss of electronics leaves no hope of control.
Inherently unstable fighter aircraft may need the speed of computer corrections, but is it really needed in commercial passenger service?
Gotsilemang
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May their souls rest in peace
Shehz
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Like some are suggesting, total electric failure, even then, there is a back-up radio battery/power (like duracell's) and they can contact and report the situation to an ATC. Just the void of any communication whatsoever is a mystery itself.
B-777 has a manual setup, if the fly-by-wire fails, everything else fails, they can still fly the jet manually. Can anyone confirm if the A-330 can fly manually if all else fails?
Eric
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RH Calgary
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Lisa
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Mar
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2. Most RADAR works on line of site and has a maximum range (approx. 200NM). So most of the Atlantic is beyond RADAR coverage.
Severe thunderstorms hit heights of 60,000 feet and higher so they are imposiblle to fly over.
Julia Tassone
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KH
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My deepest sympathies to all families and friends of those lives lost. My thoughts and prayers go out to all of you.
The angels are always near to those who are grieving,
to whisper to them that their loved ones are safe in the hand of God.
-Eileen Elias Freeman
Donald K Munroe
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for personel, business and pleasure. There is always the chance of hijackings, crashes and a terrorist attacks, but flying six and a half above earth in passenger airliners has to be the safest means of travel on this planet.
Furthermore, how many people die (each year) in Canada through automobile accidents than by plane crashes?
Duncan in the Peg
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I mean, more powerful locators that will still operate and be recieved through deep water for one.
shirlee stewart
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Sisi
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