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Date: Wed. May. 27 2009 6:01 PM ET

Canada's Public Safety Minister Peter Van Loan said cyber security is the new "arms race" as the government fights to protect its information systems from nefarious threats around the world.

Van Loan was speaking Wednesday at a joint news conference with U.S. Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano in Ottawa.

He was asked by CTV's Ottawa Bureau Chief Robert Fife about the threat of cyber crime from countries such as China and Russia.

"The countries you mentioned are ones that have proven to be adept operators in that area and they're not the only ones, there are a lot of private individuals and other interests that are threatening our security in that regard," he said.

"I really look at this area almost as the new arms race."

Van Loan said cyber threats are ever-evolving, and as quickly as new security measures are put in place, people are working on ways to get around them.

"There isn't a day that goes by without someone somewhere trying to breach the Government of Canada's information systems," he said.

"We continue to put up good defences and we continue to be fairly successful at it but it is like an arms race, we get better at it, they get better at it."

Napolitano agreed that efforts to combat cyber security are never static but are always being strengthened and improved, and said both countries are working on strategies to combat the threat.

Stronger relations under Obama

Earlier Wednesday, Van Loan told CTV's Canada AM that border and trade relations are stronger under U.S. President Barack Obama than under the previous administration.

"We're moving in a much more positive direction than in the past, where we are working co-operatively, we are making gains that are in Canada's interest and in the Americans' interest," Van Loan said.

In the past, Van Loan said, there was a perception that U.S. security concerns trumped all other issues, including the cross-border trade that is vital to the economies of both nations.

"We of course have one of the most important economic borders in the world, close to $2 billion a day trades across that border and that's one reason that it's very important we keep that open," he said.

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Nancy: Secure the Perimeter not the border
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The security situation is bad we should work together to secure our sea ports and water ports. We need to deport terrorists and I mean put them on a plane not mail them the deportation order to leave and hope they do so.
Leave the border open and secure the North American perimiter. If we had a stable majority government we could make more progess, but the USA is reluctant to sign long term agreements with the threat of elections and unpredictable parties possibly taking over. This instability hurt our economy.


Vinny from little Italy
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Of course we defend the inappropriate (the 9-11 terrorists came from Canada, then again maybe she meant the 7-11 bandits?) remarks of Napolitano because when 70 cents of every Canadian export goes to the U.S. you can't upset the giant. Next time you go through an airport count the number of "security personnel" working. My last count was 33 at one departure grid in Toronto. 33 and what have we learned or caught? We learned that some of the security personnel and baggage handlers were not properly cleared. And who pays their salary? Check your airline ticket for the endless surcharges and departure taxes. Little wonder some Canadian travellers are departing from U.S. airports vice Canadian ones. We need to get our act together before the US does it for us.


Mike Macdonald - Winnipeg
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A Canadian politician standing up for an American counterpart, when that counterpart has made ridiculous assertions. (Insert deity) help us all.


Eileen in AB
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We crossed into the USA last Friday and it was the first time ever that 2 US Border Patrol agents searched our van. On the way home yesterday we were searched as we LEFT the US, then questioned again by Canadian customs within 1 minute (as there was no lineup and they could see each other).

We are seniors and I guess they were making sure those nasty terrorists weren't trying to break INTO Canada - they weren't concered about anything we might be taking home.....that was the Canadian's job.

Janet Napolitano has got these border workers overdoing things.....you would think they would be happy to see the back of us and not even check the exiting people.

Being done just to show "something" was being done, was our impression. We looked for drones flying overhead, but must have missed them. Maybe they were after the hordes crossing the fields from Sask into N. Dakota.


Jason
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We complain that it's easier to cross borders in the EU, but refuse to have a "North American" Union because we "hate" the USA. We commend the EU for having common border laws with each other and having their authorities working together, but complain when the government negotiates shared patrols of our waterways or "Customs Unions" because we don't want Americans with guns on our territory. We constantly bring up the mistake that the US said the 9/11 terrorists came from Canada, but forget about the millennium bomber, the thousands of LTTE, and the many terrorists we do have in Canada or that have been caught trying to enter the USA. We complain about requiring a passport, but refuse to have National Identity cards like the EU. We also never hear that Saint-Pierre and Miquelon now requires Canadians to have a passport for entry while we do not require their French citizens to have one to enter Canada. We need to make up our minds on what we want.


Mike B.
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Checkpoint Charlie is coming to a border crossing real soon.
Predator drones, armed USCG skiffs on the rivers and the Great Lakes, surly guards treating potential visitors like criminals instead of economic opportunities.
As American bureaucratic paranoia sets in, Canada gets sideswiped like so much roadkill. Trade in what is a crumbling North American market has become Byzantinely complex. Canada, we have two aces in the hole, two things the American want, petroleum and water. Play them to break the protectionist paranoia fever that is crippling Canada-US trade.


Harper is abdicating our sovereignty!
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What's next? we outsource our Military to the US? We outsource our Parliement to the US? We become formed to become freakozoid Americans?

Heck, I will move to Quebec and support the separatists before I lay up for the Americans as our idiotic, substanceless prime minister is doing!

CANADA is the true land of freedom. Don't let the CONS take that away from you!



Mel from Calgary
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I look forward to the Public Safety Minister's announcements to how he will protect us from U.S. gang members coming up to Canada to wage war on our streets. With 1 in 6 americans having a criminal record we are at great risk from the south of our border.

The 9/11 terrorists crossed through U.S. customs and is not our fault.

We can increase the number of customs personel to facilitate the valuable trade.


James
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Canada is responsible for the US installment of more strict security policies at the border. We did it to ourselves and we should not be surprised, if I where American I would most likely be singing the same song as they are now.


DL Manitoba
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I agree with Nancy. I think that being involved with the US is a mistake to begin with. Well it was when Bush was head of state. He sent the troops to Iraq and no one wanted that. As for having a secure spot for terrorists I think we should. Having them walk around and think that they are king gives them all the more incentive. Treat them like the criminals they are. And for searching vehicles as hard as they are doing, it could be tamed a little.


landon
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so what make it harder to get from canada to the us, it will do good, but i think we should keep out friends closer than our enemy bucause their might be closer than we think, thir downfall is close (FREE MARKET) duhh!


Dillon
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I am not surprised to see stricter border protection between Canada and the United States. After 9-11, I knew it wouldn’t take long for Americans to take action. What did we expect?


Slavko (Kitchener, Ontario)
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I've read many times Canadians complaining and making fun of U.S. officials and their calculated "misquotes" regarding terrorists coming from Canada. The Canadian public would be shocked to see and hear from Canadian federal survailance --if they exist-- the calculated conduct of some of the Canadian civil servants towards its own native Canadian(s). Maybe the U.S. officials are sympathetic to Canadian citizens that are deemed enemies by a small clique of ignorant and egotistical Canadian civil servants. I am artistically certain that this Canadian shame makes its way to U.S. politics and cinema.

Time passes and people change for the better. As a Christian people should apologise to the person harm, or intention of harm, was inflicted upon, if they are still alive. Only then can they can ask for spiritual forgiveness from God. If it was done wearing a Canadian uniform then the victum should be compensated appropriately by all governments involved.


steven
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Its going to be alot harder for some people to cross the border now then it was before.


brittney
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crossing the border can be tough for some people due to prejudice jugdements.. they can hold you there for hours and there is nothing you can do about it. i think that is wrong and should be fixed


Dave from Toronto
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Wow, they are just realizing this now? Lightyears behind. Next on the agenda...we just discovered that email is beating out postal mail.



JB in Ontario
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People can find just about anything on the internet. We need more trained people to go after the hackers and nefarious threats to our homeland and other countries. I believe a computer can be used for good or bad and we need to get the bad guys. Crime does not pay.


Steve in PEI
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Every war the generals try and re-fight the last war, and every time they get caught with their pants down because the reality has changed.

Here we are, taking ridiculously over-the-top measures to stop terrorists that the Bush administration was willfully blind to because they wanted to refight Bush Senior's Gulf War. Now we think we have a handle on the security situation again - "rogue states" and "terrorists." In the meantime we are pitifully vulnerable to the Russians and the Chinese in cyber warfare. Either the Russians or the Chinese could probably kick America's ass in an all-out cyber war, with dire implications for the functioning of our society and even our ability to wage conventional war. Absolutely everything is computerized now and it's all connected to the Internet in some way.

This is an issue that we should be taking much more seriously. The Chinese have gotten caught a few times cracking our computer systems. These guys are very, very good - they have probably "had their way" with us a thousand times for every time they were actually caught doing something. They have a whole corps of experts getting "on the job training" in cracking our systems. We need far better defenses, as well as trained military hackers of our own to press a counter attack if need be.


Alex (Toronto)
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Canada needs to work much more closely with the Americans on security issues. That means having a joint security process that manages Canadian (and American) airports and seaports. It also means close cooperation in-country for law enforcement to allow Americans to investigate security threats to them that could be located in Canada. Extradition of criminal suspects should be as routine as it currently is between American states. We can use the European Union as a cooperation model here. It is essential to trade and prosperity in both countries to make it easy for people and goods to pass easily between the United States and Canada. The economic inefficiencies created by the border kill tens of thousands of jobs now and could become worse in the future.

Fortunately the new American administration does not use security as a political wedge issue, so they are able to discuss things a bit more rationally now, but the xenophobic propaganda of the Bush years still infects many levels of government in the US.


Doug BC
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The poster who said "Harper is abducating our sovereignty" should remember hat it was LIBERALS who cut our military down to bare bones.It was also the LIBERALS who refused to work with the USA in developing a North American defense policy.It should also be mentioned that,in spite of Napolitano's ignorant comment a couple of weeks ago,our "injusice sysem" is renowned world wide.THe people who brought down Air India are still roaming free in Canada.It's a simple thing if you're living in the USA.If Canada does something to control the criminal element here,and does it's share of the work in the defense of North America,then we can have more access to the USA.In the absence of effective polices here,they have no choice but to increase their own border protection.
Either way,I'm not impressed with either party right now.Conservative policy looks to be a bit to "integrated",as opposed to co-operative.And the Liberals are a lost cause on the issues defense,crime,or immigration.Their policy is to starve the defense budgets and spend those dollars on more "free" social programs.
If we want sovereignty for future Canadians,we will need well equipped military involved in NATO,we will need more markets for our goods,and we will need far less debt.And NONE of those tasks can be accomplished quickly.Each is a project for a decade,not one term in office.
Right now,I agree entirely with "James".We are reaping what we have sown.Don't blame the USA.



kelebek
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I find this talk about cyber security very unsettling, having worked in a country where the government kept close tabs on all internet communications.

Does this mean that cyber security will also be a joint effort and if so, what does this mean ? Will the U.S. have the authority to do surveillance on Canadian internet communications ? And will they tell us the details of their plans ?


Roger T
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Why the concern, we have the US to protect us from everything since we are only followers. Let the US spend the money and let us Canadians live debt free while they focus on mastering new technologies and fight wars around the world.


WestofTheRockies
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Everyone is on about Canada's sovereignty. What about US sovereignty? They have every right to protect it as they see fit. You don’t like it don’t go to the US.

Hey,...... here’s a novel idea, start supporting Canadian business instead of taking your Canadian dollars to another country to save a few bucks. Now that would be putting your money where your mouth is.

It’s that simple. You paying attention Eileen in AB?

Maybe not, the people who searched your car on your way home were Canadian border agents. There is no border crossing anywhere where you pass through U.S. customs on the way out of the country. Look at the crests on their uniforms, or maybe you need your eyeglass prescription checked.

Is the US going about border security with Canada in the best way? Probably not, but IT IS their border as well.

All you people whining and complaining on here about the US and how they go about their business would be the first to scream if anyone from the US made a comment about Canada and how we handle our side of the border.

What? With all those right wing Bushites attempting to take over Canada with Harper’s help. I can only imagine the outrage!



Mrs O
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Hey i agree with the positive comments of securing our perimeter and not the border,, but i do think our gov needs to protect or toughen up our east-west borders, come on we need to watch the refugee status that we do let in, when they come in they get the pr card, be good for a while then get there citizenship and then all of a sudden they dont need to be good so they start doing the wrong things and well we are on the hook to help them out because they are canadian citizens, ok,, immigration and border customs where does it stop,, to the departments when are you guys going to work with the states and help make north america safe for everyone on this land, animals cross all the time and the rivers flow throught the land, but we have a border that we have to check through,, and keeping canada soverin, she doesnt share soil with england,, not as far as the map says anyways,, we are our own country,, but we do have neighbors to the south, i say work with them, make id that they will accept for us other folks who just want to go down and shop or visit.

Dont be so negative, i want folks who read these colums to say my arent canadians decent people, they are really nice, we are all north americans,, like it or not,,,have a great day,


Bill Steedman
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There are many Canadians, if not most, who live in blissful ignorance of the threats to western democracies that are quietly dealt with every day. It's only when something goes wrong when the political left reacts with "why didn't the government do something about it?".
We have faced cyber attacks by governments and private individuals for years and this will intensify, since it is the easiest and safest way to conduct espionage. Imagine you are an employee who has worked hard for a corporation for years only to be laid off after some foreign intelligence agency has by clandestine means stolen essential technical data and information on bids. This happens every day, and there are agencies who work to prevent this on our behalf.
If that doesn't scare you, then consider the growing NBCW (Nuclear Biological Chemical Warfare) threat that we will increasingly have to face. Biological attacks are cheap, effective and are increasingly available. The recent reaction to the swine flu, which pales in significance to many biological agents, should give us an idea of the fear a terrorist could inflict with such a weapon.
I'm not suggesting that we hide under the bed, but we damn well better understand that there are hostile entities at work in this world and we need to counter them if we wish democracy to survive on this earth.
...and holding hands and singing cumbaya just won't cut it...


Rose
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I have not been to USA since 911 and will never return! Watch out Canada I see us been Americans in the near future. They always take what they want. Simple as that. Of course they will say they are envading Canada to protect us from our selves.


Darren Robert Hiebert
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He is absolutely correct! In addition to the threat to our physical infrastructure, Cyber-Wars are a concern to everyone in this era of digital communications, to protect our mission critical data. Governments are spending millions on Tier 3 and Tier 4 data centres, in recognition of, in part to this threat.


KH Victoria BC
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Great trick Right Wing Conservatives!

Congrads that you have, again, copied an old trick most lately used by the Bush team in the US, as the Right Wing Republican's would often spin a story of fear on the day when an actual and realistic story has surfaced.

$50,000,000,000 (THAT'S $50 BILLION K)... the estimated deficit so far this year. Please recall that before the last election in the fall of 2008, remember how the Conservatives downplayed the recession... here it is just months later and the Feds are 50 billion under.

But lets get back to the real story of the day...Cyber Security... stop everything! The fear of Cyber Security as the new arms race sounds is obviously most important and very very scary; obviously this totally outweighs any deficit even if it is just a mere $50 BILLION!

Excellent politics Conservative Party!


Tono
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Stronger relations, stronger relations... integration, cooperation, bla bla bla.

I think most of us here in Canada see where this is going to end up at this rate.


Max
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It is scary that the Libs consider Canada's public safety's success and recognition of it to be BAD things.

That is why Iggyites are scary - their platform and policies appeal to the smallest of minds... mouthbreathing knuckledragging neanderthals who have never left their home towns.



Jonathan
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Why are goverment systems connected to the world wide web? It makes it too easy for some criminal on the other side of the planet to start hacking away. Government systems should only be connected to a type of INTRANET within Canada to conduct our own business regarding inter-provincial exchange of information.


RKemp
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The greatest mistake Canada ever made was in allowing an undefended boarder with the US. It should always have been defended. We would have maintained our autonomy.


Pip
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Right on, Jason "We need to make up our minds on what we want"!



Robin Gould
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At the International level, amongst the United Nations, Government's have been calling for action on this front for years. It's about time the Government's of North American took measures to secure the information highway.

On a different fron Van Loan and Ms. Napolitano make a cute couple - dont they?




PJ Graham
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Van Loan should ask himself, "What would a Canadian do?"


Stephen
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Is it April fools day today? You would think so by some of the comments on here.

The comments just go to show how ignorant some people really are, if you do not understand a topic, why not do some research on it before you flap your gums, and write about a topic you think you know something about. Or how about keeping on topic, not sure what this story has to do with the now projected budget deficit of 50 Billion. If someone does please enlighten me!

Cyber security is a real threat in this day and age, and there are agencies in this country who make sure that our National security, and yours is kept safe, and guess what they don't announce every time they stop a potential attack or an actual breach, they work behind the scenes to ensure that we can carry one with our lives. And this has nothing to do with the current government, this is something that needs to be done regardless of the governing party.

And if you don't like the wait times at the border or the fact that you may have to have your vehicle searched, then stay home. It's not your God right to be given free access across their border. I went to the States for a day trip a couple of weeks ago and we were pulled over and the vehicle was searched. And do you know what no one bitched and complained while we waited, we chalked it up to living in today's reality, where the American have every right to be concerned of who might be entering their country, and can take what steps they think necessary to protect their citizens, and all people in the car where English speaking, white people in their early 30's, so me thinks there was probably no racial profiling being done.

Canadians like to accuse Americans of being ignorant, but from reading some of these posts, it looks like a lot of people are living in glass houses with a pile of rocks next to the couch.


WestofTheRockies
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@Jonathan

"Why are government systems connected to the world wide web?"

Who said they were but..... Intranet might be fine for your office building but how would government communicate across the country & with other governments.

How do you think commerce is carried on today? How about something simple even, ever use a bank machine in another city, province or country? How do you think that communication took place?

Let's face it, if Hackers can get into the US defence computer system, arguably the world's safest computer network, how safe is any country’s computer system?!

We need this type of cooperation, like it or not. Otherwise we might as well close up shop and go home.





Logan
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There is no safety when it comes to the internet. You will never foolproof those who know how to use one. There is no BEST HACKER IN THE WORLD, that's a myth. There will always be someone better than another. Therefore, foolproofing the internet is impossible.


WestofTheRockies
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Oh Stephen,

What’s the matter with you? A well written comment, no spelling errors, no phonetic spelling so we get don’t have words like evade instead of invade in your comment.

Ignorant does not adequately describe some of the posters here. It is unbelievable the crap some of these people spew out. Where do they get it from then judging by their spelling and composition you have to wonder… did they actually attend school?

The 50 billion is relevant in their little minds because don’t you know Harper is behind the computer thing, AND he is responsible for the world wide recession and he is still being controlled by Bush, because the US really wants Canada for it’s own. You know, connect the dots, but don’t pay any attention to the order or the dot numbers though. You can connect dots that are in a different book also.

Thank you for a sane comment. Too bad many won’t understand it



Diplomacy
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"Cyber security ... the next arms race". What a ridiculous statement! Simply one of self-importance and 'raison d'etre'.

The "clowns" Napolitano & Van Loan need to exit stage left.

Coast Guard both on the Great Lakes? And, what did they find? Cigarettes & marijuana. Maybe these "clowns" are smoking it!

One word: PARANOIA!

Oh, Janet. You're on the big stage now, and you have to watch what you say. You not dealing with Southern racists now.

Still don't think you got it, ma'am. Don't blame Canadian media!!! You'll learn they're a different breed than the American 'gotcha' type. And, they can be trusted.

You, ma'am are a lame duck!!


Van Loan repeats what his US master says.
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Try thinking for yourself.


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