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Date: Tue. May. 26 2009 9:57 PM ET
Finance Minister Jim Flaherty says the federal deficit will balloon to $50 billion this fiscal year, an increase of more than $16 billion from a January forecast.
It's believed to be the highest federal deficit ever.
"We will run a substantial short-term deficit this year which I would estimate at more than $50 billion," Flaherty said Tuesday. "We are going through a deeper economic slowdown than anticipated."
He added that "the systemic stabilizers that we have automatically -- more employment insurance, a couple of billion dollars, plus more, and lower taxes -- are to be expected during a recession, which we are seeing. We also have the substantial auto payments that are going to be required."
Ottawa Bureau Chief Robert Fife said the recession has hammered away at government revenues.
"Government sources say half of (the deficit) is a result of falling revenues and having to pay more people unemployment insurance, and the rest of that money is the result of the auto bailout," he told CTV News Channel.
Flaherty hinted yesterday that the deficit would be "substantially more" than the government projected in January's 2009-2010 budget.
The initial deficit forecast was $34 billion. But Flaherty said that government revenues have been hit harder by the recession than expected.
In January, the government also forecast a $30-billion deficit for 2010-2011, and more deficits in the following three years.
Flaherty will give a full update in June when he presents his fiscal update to Parliament, but with 681,400 Canadians now collecting Employment Insurance, the government's fiscal situation will continue to face challenges in the coming months.
The number of Canadians collecting EI has climbed by 36.2 per cent since the economic meltdown began hammering labour markets in October of last year.
That rise includes a surge of 131 per cent in Alberta and nearly 80.5 per cent in British Columbia, the two provinces which led the nation in economic growth for much of the past half decade.
The Liberals were quick to launch an attack after Flaherty's revelation Tuesday, saying Prime Minister Stephen Harper suggested he may have to raise taxes to deal with the soaring deficit.
"Today at 2:23 pm in the House of Commons during Question Period, Prime Minister Stephen Harper admitted that he will not introduce another budget "until we need to raise taxes," the party said in a press release.
Harper, responding to a question about employment insurance, said in full: "When we did our pre-budget consultation, the Liberal party wanted two more weeks of employment insurance.
"So, we did five more weeks, plus all kinds of additional money for training for people, both on EI and not on EI.
These are measures to help the unemployed in this recession. What we're not going to do is every two or three months come up with another economic policy, another budget, until we need to raise taxes.
Our deficits are affordable but they will remain short-term."
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I applaud the budget, even though Health Care and education may stay unscathed. Sadly this cannot last and I worry to later this year where cuts will become enviable. If anything, this provides the Wildrose Alliance plenty of ammo when an election is called.


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scott beckingsale
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Roger T
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Jim London
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Charles
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nik
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Narin
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Ki-Som Victoria BC
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Unbeliever
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I'd sooner listen to my cat...at least my cat dosen't lie....might even be smarter
CAN
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As a self employed person who cannot claim EI & but has to to support unions, pensions & under the table paid construction workers who then collect EI while getting subsidised housing - ENOUGH ALREADY
Matt
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I got wasted billions, and they didn't even put up a fight.
Write your MP and tell them to get their act under control!
We don't want to be buried under debt, look what it's doing to the world economy.
james rural ontario
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Gary
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dawn
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Denny in SK
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KJM
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"under no circumstance we will go into deficit, no"
Wade Ens Toronto - Its Obama's fault
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American Iggy
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young canadian
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In 2 years they have wiped out all our surpluses and all the debt payments we have made over the last 5-7 years. I guess I will be paying more taxes in a few years to pay this off.
bcdarr
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Nothing this man has said in the last year held true, why would these new numbers be even close to accurate now?
Bobbo
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Guess we'll be back at 500 Billion in the hole again shortly, too bad we had a nice 13 year run of debt reduction.
No matter your party affiliation, this is bad in the long run.
LAL
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What's good for the goose...
Steve the Pundit
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NJam101 Northern Ontario
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Prime Minister Stephen Harper understands the global financial crisis. His plan for the way forward has been clear and consistent: balanced budgets, lower taxes, investments to create jobs and keeping inflation low.
-clear and consistent?
-balanced budgets?
-creating jobs?
Joe Schmoe
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markass
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Trent
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Dave in Surrey
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JohnnyBravo
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Conservative voters ! Canadians get to lose more jobs and they get to be denied E.I. Pretty soon, Canada gets to become a third world country. Welcome to the the 21st Century !!
Caper
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wreck76
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Layton in Moncton
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Brad
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Freddy
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Paul J Graham, Saskatoon
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Herb
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Carol Thor
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Do they know what they are doing? The aren't giving me any confidence.
Why would they have revenue when unemployment is at such a high level? The workers who made good wages are no longer putting into the coffers they have to draw EI and then when that runs out social assistance. But not to worry, the unemployed will be retrained (Some only, - read the fine print)
to what kind of jobs - $15/hr.
We can thank the Government for the lack of planning, foresight and they are still in that rut just telling us how the deficit is soaring with no plans. I would still like to know where the surplus went so that could have been a cushion.
I do believe this is an engineered recession how could the bottom fall out of everything so fast in this day and age? Where did all the profits go from years?
The rich will get richer, the middle class will be non existent and the poor will get poorer.
gord in ns
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Brandi
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Richard
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david in edm
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One would like to think that they can do less damage in their former environments.
Merrilee
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Vince
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A. Reid
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The problem is that when a government says they have such a large budget and Budget deficit it is easy to lose the 50 million or 150 million.
Do like all families do, cut the extrangances. Cut all the Cell phones, all the car allowances, Cut travel. How much does a meal need to cost, $15, not $300 on an expense acoount.
Take control of the situation,don't just go out and get more credit.
Mr. H., Mr F., you are in government to make the tough choices. How much are we paying for all the troops being overseas. I support our troops 100% but why are we there, is it helping, will it help in the long run.
Glyn (Zaphod) Evans
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Pete
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Do you people realize we are currently in a WORLDWIDE recession of which no-one has been able to accurately predict. Of course you do, but that wont stop you from using this to beat your Liberal drum.
How can any Liberal suppoeter talk mis-management after the sponsorship scandal? Its laughable.
Maybe if the Grits were in power, or better yet the coalition, the whole planet could have been sparred this economic downturn right?
Give your heads a shake! the Canadian economy is currently positioned better than any of the G8 countires, hows that for mis-management?
Bruce
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What about this?
U.S. Economy: Consumer Confidence Jumps by Most in Six Years
Or this?
Canada Dollar Gains as Confidence Data Buoys Stocks, Oil Rises
Or this?
Canada Stocks Rise on Bank of Montreal Profit, U.S. Confidence
No? Short sighted much?
Chris in Edmonton
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Candu
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Head on Straight
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Charles BC
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The cons have no idea how to manage tough fiscal times.
jay
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Camshaft
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So the PC's create a new budget with lots of spending and now you are saying it is their fault.
It would be twice as bad if you had the Liberals in there.
Mary Clarke
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George in Calgary
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For those that recall Mr. Harper's statements in the lection that there would be no deficit remember the blackmailing techniques of the "coalition" and the continued calls for more money for EI.
I agree with CAN. Enough is enough. If I do not have access to EI then no one should and lets stop supporting the demands of unions.
David
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Honestly, I am surprised the Finance Minister is coming clean with these numbers. He was able to keep them hidden when he had a similar post in the Ontario Harris Government until they were kicked to the curb.
Maybe they should hire some strategists to help negotiate our nation through this difficult time instead of spending countless time and money on attack adds.
Mary Clarke
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The Libs paid off the debt with OUR worker insurance money! $54 Billion of it,from the E.I. fund!
And then they had the nerve to claim a surplus!
Jon in Halifax
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Bee
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Brian In Sarnia
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Chris Ottawa
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It is not easy but we will make it if we stay with Harper
Steve in Toronto
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Edmonton Jim
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seen it before Natty, ON
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Forecast: "Conservatives" will announce another Deficit extension in six months or less, or start Selling-off Govt assets to cover Ineptitude.
We've had these people in Ontario before with same results.They've made no attempt to upgrade management skills since.
Harper's answer to Global Crisis was to "Look for Bargains" before he ran away to hide.
Tired of the Complaining
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Alberta Redneck
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Mr. Harper and his team still have my confidence and I shudder if Iggy and his band of bandits ever get in. At one time I thought I might escape to the US, but now that Obama is planning for a repeat of the Weimar Republic, I am not even sure that option is open anymore.
Oh yeah, if the economy is so bad and GM makes such crap, try to go out and buy a loaded pick up anymore. My dealer tells me that Quebec Dealers are reaching out to Alberta to find a truck for a customer. Sheesh!
Peter 1951
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Marg MM
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Unfortunatly we are in a WORLD WIDE recession through no fault of our own. No Government (not even the Liberals) could have predicted how bad it would get. Since the Liberal/NDP are calling for even more spending, does this mean that they are OK with an even bigger deficit?
Fact is we all know(yes even you Liberals although you don't like to admit it) how the Liberals get their surpluses, offloading to provinces, cutting the military to the bone, raiding the EI fund, not to mention all the scandals.
To all you Ignatieff lovers...
Be careful what you wish for, these times might seem like a picnic compared to what might be ahead with the Liberals in power.
KC in Calgary
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A least under the Paul Martin Liberals we had prudent fiscal management...but those days are gone... "
- Nice try Jim. You mean the same Paul Martin who took $54B from EI and put it into general revenue in order to balance the books? The same move that was recently deemed to have been done illegally by the Supreme Court?
Nice try Jim...
Justin
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Mike
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It does not matter which gov't would be in power in these times we would still be in a recession, and we would still have a huge defecit.
If the Liberals were in power right now the same defecit would be happening, we would still be paying the auto companies off and still be paying heavy taxes.
Let the gov't do there job with out having to worry about a early election or a nonconfidence vote.
Think about it.
daytek
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demanding big spending, or he would call an electiion
This is IGGGYGYYYG DEBT
Prof. Pye Chartt
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HAPPY that the unelected, appointed Liberal pretender to the parliamentary throne of Prime Minister, Mr. Ignatieff, isn't Prime Minister...or we'd be faced with a deficit of at least $85B, based on an endless stream of "welfare" giveaways to every person, corporation, or institution asking for one.
SAD that Prime Minister Harper and his Conservatives lost their ideological compass somewhere on Parliament Hill, and can't figure out what it means to be a true "fiscal" conservative. Instead of standing firm, on political principles and convictions, they let a pack of liberals, separtists, and socialists scare them up a tree.
Oh, well. That's what you get in a country misguided by the foolish belief that the government should be run like a giant corporation that can simply force shareholders (taxpayers) to buy more stock when the balance sheet is dripping with red ink.
Joan Mathews
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sasha
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Brian from Barrie
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James from Vancouver
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And there you have it. The culmination of Conservative overspending and mismanagement. I'm too shocked at the figure to comment further.
Bruce
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They took billions of dollars from the pension plans of the public service, the military and the RCMP.
Mary Clarke
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What was Ignatieff's position on bailing out the Auto Industry?
Brett
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Keith
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AH in Ottawa
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Fed up with Canadians.
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PET almost drove this country into bankruptcy with his yearly deficits so don't sit and claim the Liberals can do better. Once Martin was finance minister they over taxed and had billions in unreported revenue that they used to support THEIR political agenda.
Tax revenue is the peoples money not the governments.
Niagara George
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As I recall, all the Cons who post here went through the roof, complaining of his incompetence. I would much rather the calculations were off by $10B, than the $50B+ error Flaherty is going to have!
Ted
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K.Matorskin
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But current government in Ottawa has to be changed. We have the biggest taxes in the world, and these guys still run a deficit? It is nonsense and insult for all Canadians. $50 billions??? They must be kidding. I want them out, all of them, Tony Clement first, Flaherty second, Harper third, -- all these losers out.
Kevin
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The liberals may not have done any better, but at least they wouldnt have BRAGGED and used it their platform that they maintain a fiscal balance. I guess the higher the platform they hold themselves on, the harder the fall.........
I demand stimulus spending for ordinary Canadians
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Evan in Athabasca
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The government did not know it was going to have to pay more for EI claims, no body. I say nobody knew it was going to be this hard during the recession. Even the naysayers were way off the numbers.. Sorry to bust your gloating moment that says liberals are better.
BTW, just pointing out the very obvious, the liberals were very, no no no, extremely lucky to have been in government during more stable economic times.
So this is really not the current governments fault.
Nicole
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Huh??! - Giving me a tax reduction on my consumer spending is more atrocious than stealing my tax dollars and lining Liberal pockets? That's absurd. Not to mention how they stole money from the employer/employee funded EI fund and claimed a surplus. Only in Liberal la la land.
Simple answer for Mary Clarke: it's irrelevant.
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The reality is that Harper's out of control.
With the Liberals under Paul Martin we had surpluses.
Harper is wrecking Canada.
But idiots like you keep chanting that you don't like "Iggy."
Get out of the way, you idiots.
Will
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Joe Conservative
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You cry that government isn't spending enough, and when theres a slight deficit that is meant to appease you, liberal/socialist canadians berade the conservatives and cry for an canadian obama-like figure.
I call Canadians to change their attitudes. Look at ALBERTA: when you have small government and low taxes - GOOD THINGS HAPPEN. What's all the uproar about from you people out east? Alberta will pay for most of it because you ask it of us.
K.Matroskin
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Can I please remind you that dirty talking with women never makes man a Man. Thank you for understanding and never please do it again.
Rob
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Hunter Mars
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Total deficit will top one hundred billion .
Nath6ca
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Ted_Man
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Mr HARPER, This is the only way you can fix the mess we are in. Hurry because you don't have much time left befor the Country's economy is completely destroyed. The deficit is growing by the second.
KJ in Kingston Ontario
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Jennifer Francis
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Marg in Calgary
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What do you really think will happen if the Liberals get in? I shudder to think...
JD
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Never again a purchase from me.
Concerned canadian
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Posters claiming that the Liberals would have done the same thing are right, as are those people who point out that Mr. Harper is only going into a deficit because he was forced to by the threat of a coalition.
But Conservative supporters just don't seem to get it. Just a few months ago you were screaming about how the coalition was illegal, and that the coalition were "fearmongers" for warning us about the coming recession.
Now that it turns out that Mr. Layton and Mr. Dion were correct all along, suddenly a deficit is a sign of good government.
Meanwhile, the Liberal supporters are screaming about Mr. Harper's mismanagement of the budget. You don't seem to get it either.
Mr. Harper is responding, under pressure, to the realities of the global economic slowdown. This is not his fault.
But he can't take credit either, because if he had had his way, we would not have a deficit budget, and our economy would be more in the tank than it is.
So Conservative supporters- admit that Mr. Harper was wrong, that he misled Canadians about the state of the economy, or was at least ignorant about it, and that he is trying to take credit for something he was forced to do.
Liberal supporters, stop complainiang about the deficit. This is Kenysian economics, something that Mr. Harper doesn't believe it- he is a member of the Chicago school, and if he'd had his way, businesses would be going under and unions would have been destroyed.
But he is doing the correct thing, and it's exactly what the coalition would have done if they'd taken power.
Jay, Ottawa
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How people support this level of incompetence is now beyond me? You have to be die hard close minded to think this government is doing a good job.
Jay, Ottawa
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Exactly, a leader would have put his foot down . Instead, Harper showed what a push-over he can be. Stephen Harper, not a leader.
Jay, Ottawa
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I hate to be the one to break it to you Joe but Alberta is going down in flames. Not exactly a good model.
Andy Kanata
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1) There is a world wide recession going on and most if not all governments are running a deficit as they must do to inject money into the economy to help get through this dark time that was brought on not by the Liberals or Conservatives but by the arrogance ignorance and greed of a handful of people.
2) The Liberals were not great fiscal managers. They governed at a time when everything was rosey. They overtaxed Canadians, downloaded responsibilities to Provincial governments and gutted the EI fund to produce budget surplus years. As a result, Health Care and many other programs suffered.
3) If good fiscal management involves the theft of millions of tax dollars and the waste of billions of tax dollars then I guess the Liberals are good at managing our money.
4)The current government was pushed to do more than they had wanted to by the opposition threats. Maybe it is a good thing, maybe not. Time will tell. But I don't understand how the opposition and many posters, blame the deficit on the current government when they are doing what any party in power would be doing in the situation we are in.
Roland Godin
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all i can say is blahhhhhhhhh
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J.C.
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I guess you forgot your hero Pierre Trudeau (Liberal Leader) put us into more debt than any other PM and also stripped the military forces budget as well. As I recall his philosophy was "Debt will not hurt over the long term and if the dollar drops it is good for us." Maybe not the exact words but close. As I recall this occurred when times were good! We are still in debt from those times and yet now that the conservatives give into the Liberal demands and the threat of a coalition by going into deficit during these hard times you bash them for doing so!
Don't you opposition supporters think you should make up your mind as to what you really want? Temporary debt or Long term debt. I support the temporary sustainable debt rather than long term unsustainable debt.
CE
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It is truly comical how you blame conservatives for everything. I guarantee that you believe the swine, cancer, your car not starting in the morning, and let us not forget the biggy when that bag of chips get caught in the vending machine and is just hanging there that is the fault of the conservatives. I can see you pounding on the glass yelling “why Mr. Harper why”.
Nick
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Stuart du Kamp, Edmonton
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Randyrocker
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Marc Desilets - Kapuskasing Ontario
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DCR-Toronto
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WestofTheRockies
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C'mon you just make toooo much sense. This will never do, none of that matters to most of those commenting here.
These people are being bribed with their own money and they are too stupid to figure it out.
No matter that successive Liberal governments from the early 60's are responsible for the huge existing Canadian debt.
They’ve forgotten that their greatest Liberal of them all – Trudeau, is the father of modern day deficit financing.
Samual
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Every time the cons are in power they dig a big hole then the liberals get voted in clean up the mess.
History repeats its self over & over.
Thanks for nothing Harper please step down!
WestofTheRockies
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That being the case, maybe you could tell us where this investment was made? Then maybe you can explain how it is that Ontario’s manufacturing sector has been decimated over the past 15 years. Hundreds of huge manufacturers said no thanks to all the investment Liberals offered, closed up shop and left.
Even Paul Marten didn’t source ships for his shipping company from Shipbuilders in Canada. Now that’s a vote of confidence.
The federal ship in case you didn't notice was already listing under the Liberals, it's just listing more today. That doesn't make the new Captin responsible for the cause.
Don Aitken
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Imagine if he had a majority,he would really do a number on us.
Canada deserves better than this incompetent bunch of idealogical Conservatives.
Wendy
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Wow I guess those attack ads are really costing a bundle!
Thanks to the liberals our banks are strong!
Carol Thor, Paris
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Joe No More Conservatives
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Stick your attack ads and focus on your jobs. You sound childish and immature.
I guess you feel that attacking others will make people overlook your deficiencies.
I won't ever be voting PC again, at least until you grow up and act mature.
Mike
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Wasting money on attack ads trying to divert the attention from the fact this government has no plans.
Next month they will come out with a new number Oops we were wrong, probably end up in 100 billion.
Please harper step down you have been voted the worst PM in Canadian history. you are ruining Canada.
Just Wondering
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cphspeed
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The Liberals complained that there wasn't any spending, now they complain that there is too much and if (God forbid) the Liberals get in; guess what........more spending. Except this time it will be to Liberal friendly companies (remember Ad Scam) and hey maybe some of our tax dollars will end up in Obama's re-election coffer.
I hate the fact that there is a deficit and that we are in debt but unfortuately it is a necessary evil - look who is going to come out of this storm better off....Canada and Steven Harper.
Canada Goose Whistler
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I honesty believe Canada would have done far better, maybe even no rescission with a liberal government.
Fact the gst was pennies out of our pockets & millions to government.
& How much money did the sub prime mortgages this government brought into Canada cost us? Not much was said about this, how much are they hiding.
Chris in Ajax
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Cambob
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If the conservatives want to eliminate the deficit, they will turn the 401/Highway of Heros into a Toll Highway, along with every other major road in the GTA.
If the liberals want to elimiate the deficit, they will nationalize the Heritage Trust Fund. It won't go to the deficit, but they will throw a nice party with the funds.
If the NDP wants to elimiate the deficit (LOL) they will increase all taxes and spend Trillions on sensitivity classes.
If the Bloc wants to elimiate the deficit, they will cut the border with Canada and 'magically' float away as a soveriegn, debt free country.
None of these clowns are acting couragous. Not one of them is standing up for the MAJORITY of Canadaian who are about to see a tax increase from 30% to 55% over the next 5 years.
Dave from BC
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Sick of the Political Parties
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VIC
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Walter Orlowski
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Mr. Harper,the least you could do is remove the ear plugs,listen carefully and throw some more of our money out to the unemployed and adjust EI rules to really help those Canadians feeling economic disaster rather than impressing me into buying a toilet and get a rebate. Also,you can forget all those cheap mudslinging commercials. If the Conservative Party is bleeding with cash maybe they could also extend help those Canadians less fortunate. Your commercials only further enhance this Neoconservative Party as a bullying,insesitive power hungry enigma without substance. Time to change the horse before the wheels completely fall off the buggy!
Edmonton Vic
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Wendy
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I'm 51 yrs old never collected EI probably never will, but to make EI easier to get in hard times is the best stimulus for Canada. Put money in their hands & they will spend it.
infrastructure project employ big machines & a small handful of people.
When that bridge to no where is built all those people are out of work again.
EI doesn't pay enough for me to be interested in it, I'm sure not that many people would want to be limited to the small amount it pays.
People against this are probably selfish, uneducated conservatives.
D Morris
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It doesn't matter which party did this - mismanagement is mismanagement.