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Date: Tue. May. 26 2009 9:15 PM ET
Canada and the U.S. signed an agreement Monday designed to increase border security by allowing the RCMP and the U.S. Coast Guard to team up and ride in each others' vessels during border patrols.
Known as the Shiprider program, the new rules intend to improve security and eliminate jurisdictional grey areas in Canada-U.S. waterways. Without the new program, vessels must stop at the border and call upon the other country's officials for help.
The Shiprider program has been used as a pilot program over the past few years to catch smugglers and criminals on joint waterways.
Public Safety Minister Peter Van Loan and his U.S. counterpart, Secretary of Homeland Security Janet Napolitano, signed the agreement Tuesday at a cargo facility at the Ambassador Bridge, which connects Detroit and Windsor, Ont.
Van Loan said the pact shouldn't be viewed as Americans encroaching on the jurisdiction of Canada because it's a joint effort between both countries.
And he stressed that security and trade between the two countries can be mutually beneficial.
"Because of the integration of our North American economies ... effective management of the border is essential to the health of both of our countries' economies," said Van Loan.
Talks between the two officials are set to continue this week in advance of the Western Hemisphere Travel Initiative, which comes into effect June 1. The initiative means Canadians will need to show their passports, NEXUS cards or enhanced driver's licences when entering the U.S.
Napolitano, who stirred controversy a few weeks ago when she suggested the 9-11 terrorists entered the U.S. through Canada, said the U.S. wants to partner with Ottawa to ensure the safety of the continent.
She said boosting security "doesn't mean closing ourselves off from other countries -- it means working together as neighbors and allies.
"We have to be able to share information ... and put more security at the border, which helps us keep track of what is going back and forth," she said.
Van Loan and Napolitano have agreed to meet twice every year, along with other high-level officials, to discuss border issues.
While Napolitano has since clarified her 9-11 comments and said the terrorists responsible for the attacks did not enter the U.S. through Canada, she has maintained that other terror suspects have crossed south over the border.
Napolitano has also criticized Canada for being too lax at the border, saying federal regulations did not go far enough.
Still, according to former diplomat Paul Frazer, Canadians shouldn't be alarmed by the prospect of foreign officers policing Canada's waters.
"It's not a one way kind of operation," he told CTV's Power Play from Washington on Tuesday.
Frazer stressed that the new plan is a quid-pro-quo deal for Canada.
"You will have Canadian authorities aboard American boats, going into American waters, and the reverse coming into Canadian waters."
With files from The Canadian Press
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I applaud the budget, even though Health Care and education may stay unscathed. Sadly this cannot last and I worry to later this year where cuts will become enviable. If anything, this provides the Wildrose Alliance plenty of ammo when an election is called.


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Layton in Moncton
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Reid in Northern BC
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Moiya in Hamilton
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Les in BC
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Why is it Canada's responsibility to screen who gets into the US? If some idiot gets into their country, then their border people screwed up, not ours.
It must be great to think everyone else is at fault and you are perfect.
Matt
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It's just formalizing laws already on the books.
Foreign law enforcement can be and often is given police powers during joint operations.
What this agreement does is limit the scope of the police powers, and make it easier for the police to work together.
I feel better knowing that during a border related issue the resources of both Canada and the US will be available to resolve it.
Al in NB
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LB
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James in NB
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Wallace in Toronto
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A very similar scene has recently been dramatized by the season finale of "Criminal Minds" on CTV that U.S. agents apprehended and interrogated suspects on Canadian soil, both inside the RCMP facility and at the rural crime scene in whatever ways they like, despite the presence of RCMP and OPP officers, who have jurisdication over the case.
Dan in Regina
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Jim from Ontario
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Carver Hubbard
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I hate the idea of a joint border law enforcement program. I don't want U.S. law enforcement having any say or jurisdiction in Canada. We should scrap all joint programs.
The war on terror is fake anyway
GUTSHOT!! in Thunder Bay
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Keep Canada soverign. (if it still is?)
Steve in Ottawa
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I hope that means they will crack down on the guns, violence and crime coming north across the border.
The "Amero" too funny, if not inevitable.
Jay
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That was a tv show that is all.You can't say wow that happend on that show so that must be how it works.
limits to anything
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Tono
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We need to stress independence and solidarity over cooperation and integration.
marine member in the north
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no, the CBSA is only at the designated Port's of Entry, so it is the RCMP that engage in the Shiprider program as they are responsible for all other areas, and the open sea is not a designated port of entry.
Balgonie Bob
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Slavko (Kitchener, Ontario)
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The Ontario Provincial Police and the Michigan State Troopers have been tatter-tailing on each other’s residences’ driving habits in their jurisdiction for years, which goes on the driver’s home driving record. So, this type of co-operation isn’t unusual. Maybe it took this long because of a matter of federal generational time and trust, or most likely maybe border incidents have increased or a determination to remove red tape in the heat of the moment.
Both militaries have trained together and one, the U.S., had offered the other their 70 ton tanks for free, which the other, Canada, said, “Sorry, we don’t have the budget for its maintenance.” Hitching a ride would solve problems faster.
Would they split the bill for a cross border incident or patrols?
Diplomacy
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Spotted any of Predator Drones over Balgonie lately? You know the ones based in FARGO, N.D.?
Photos today, oops! Weapons tomorrow! Ya know just like they made a mistake flying nuclear weapons to Arizona!
Wake up, Canada! Don't give away our SOVERIGNTY!
W.A. Janes
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Brian
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Paul Chilliwack
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Get out of our land and stay away.
Enough is enough, Canadians will govern Canadians.
Terry in NB
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Mark - Vegreville, AB
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Chris from the West Coast
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Chris
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In that case, perhaps Ms. Napolitano, as Homeland Security secretary, should authorize better training for her border guards. After all, they are the ones who allow these people into the United States.
While she's at it, she could also give them some ESP training so that terrorists could be discovered BEFORE they entered, instead of AFTER.
Don
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John Dicmon
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We have EU and soon North American Union, next African Union, Asian union etc.. with different currency and finally another recession and then one currency, and united nations becomes the one government and the theory becomes reality soon or later...and we are all screwed.
Goldens
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John Wilson
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Scott
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Savant
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Agents of the RCMP and the USCG (U.S. Coast Guard) are trained to be officers in the other country's law enforcement unit. So the RCMP were trained on USCG procedures, and the USCG were trained on RCMP procedures. These special officers are actually considered to be part of the other country's force when in that country. The USCG officers are considered 'RCMP supernumerary constables' when in Canadian waters, and the RCMP constables are considered to be 'U.S. customs officers' when in American waters.
The crews are always comprised of officers from BOTH countries. So while a boat may be marked as USCG or RCMP, there are officers from BOTH countries on all the boats. When a boat is in U.S. waters, the USCG officers are 'in charge' and the RCMP assist. When a boat is in Canadian waters the RCMP is 'in charge' and the USCG assist. Since the foreign officers have taken training, they are able to act in a law enforcement capacity when in the foreign country.
The end result is that these special boats and crews have the legal authority to work on both sides of the border without any need to get 'clearance' from the other country to cross.
Criminals won't be able to make a 'run for the border' since the boats will follow them regardless. It will in no way affect our soverignty, and foreign officers will always be under RCMP supervision when in Canadian waters. (and vice-versa) It's a win-win, and nothing that people should have any concerns over.
Cesar in Seattle
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Canada and USA
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Shan
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Why are there so many Canadians out there that are affraid to cooperate with their friendly neighbor?
Gord. Robson, Nova Scotia
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the "bad guys " would get away when we had to stop and try and reach the Americans to take up the chase.
We both will have equal officers riding with the patrol boats.
Lets see if this works before we start being NEGATIVE about this venture!
Marc
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Rod
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WestofTheRockies
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"Get out of our land and stay away"
Now that's a bright comment. This story is about Canada-U.S. waterways (as in SHARED) and you are talking about land.
Canada & the US share waterways and our border runs through the largest lake system in the world.
This is a reciprocal agreement. Canadians will be on US boats as well.
Settle down, we've been involved jointly in many ways with the US for the last 125 years. How exactly has it hurt us?
Lois close to Saskatoon
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Can't wait to hear what the Americans will think of this!
That is if their media will even tell them.Did anybody tell Alex Jones?
Sorry folks but this is a bad deal for both countries, only strong, well kept fences make for good neighbours.Start blurring the property lines and we'll have trouble!
BP in Windsor
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Iggy Ottawa - Get Ready to be the 51st Star
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Rob
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FreakAlert
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Anne Theriault
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Samual
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If I have to show a passport they better well be showing one when they come into Canada.
The USA is an evil joke.
Keep Canada soverign.
Mike from Canmore
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And what's worse, is that we are slowly giving up our rights as a sovereign nation. US agents in US boats stopping Canadians in Canadian waters simply because there is a single Canadian Customs officer in that boat. US agents permanently in place along the CANADIAN border at places where there are railroad crossings as US agents are scanning Canadian trains in Canadian territory before they enter the US. US cameras along the St. Clair River scanning the Canadian side of the river in case a boatload of terrorists tries to sneak into the US. And the list goes on and on.
First Paul Martin and now Steve Harper allowing and encouraging this crap. What does Ignatieff have to say? But then again, he's basically an American carrying a Canadian passport.
This is not good.
anadian Boater
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A Canadian and proud of it!
Ryder
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