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Date: Mon. May. 4 2009 7:19 PM ET

Canadian politicians and health officials were demanding answers Monday from China over the country's ban on Alberta pork.

Xinhua news agency first reported the ban by the Chinese government on Sunday, which came after the revelation that 220 pigs at an Alberta farm had been infected with the H1N1 virus.

Accusing China of operating "outside of sound science," Agriculture Minister Gerry Ritz said Canada is considering taking China to the World Trade Organization if it doesn't lift the ban.

At least 10 other countries have shut out Canadian pork imports, including the Philippines, Ukraine, El Salvador, Honduras and South Korea.

So far, 20 countries have imposed a world-wide ban on imports of pork -- most of them affect products from Mexico and the U.S.

"This is an industry that has sales of over $15 billion and employs 45,000 people (in Canada)," said Liberal agriculture critic Wayne Easter in the House of Commons, "so the impact could be huge."

International Trade Minister Stockwell Day called China's ban on Canadian pork "disappointing and unwarranted," while Liberal foreign affairs critic Bob Rae went further, calling it "illegal."

The pigs caught the virus after having contact with a farm worker who had recently been to Mexico.

It was the first documented case of the H1N1 virus being transferred from a human to another species.

Day said Canadian officials in Beijing are attempting to "clarify" the situation with the Chinese government.

"All scientific evidence indicates the H1N1 flu virus is not passed by eating pork," Day said in an email to The Canadian Press Monday.

"There is no food safety concern related to the discovery of H1N1 Influenza in the herd in Alberta."

Scientists, including those at the World Health Organization, have been telling the public that the virus cannot be transmitted in food.

"Therefore (there is) no justification for the imposition of trade measures on the importation of pigs or their products," Day said.

Easter said the Tories need to be very aggressive in ensuring that countries don't ban Canadian pork.

"We export a lot of the byproducts of the hog to China that Canadians just don't eat... it's a very important market to us," Easter told CTV Newsnet from Ottawa on Monday.

Easter said hog prices are dropping at a time when the industry is already facing problems. He said producers will face "economic disaster" if the ban continues.

Paul Hodgman, executive director of Alberta Pork, said there is much at stake for Canada's pork industry.

"It's actually bigger on the export front than the beef industry is, which comes to the surprise of a lot of people," Hodgman told CTV Newsnet from Edmonton. "We export about 60 per cent of what we produce -- we're in the top three exporting nations in the world, and we export to about 100 countries."

In addition to China, at least eight other countries have put restrictions on Canadian pork since the H1N1 outbreak, Jurgen Preugschas, the president of the Canadian Pork Council, told The Canadian Press.

Alberta's chief veterinarian, Dr. Gerald Hauer, says there are no indications that people can get sick with H1N1 from eating pork.

"Pork is known to be safe to eat," Hauer told CTV's Canada AM in a phone interview from Alberta on Monday morning.

"All the organizations agree that properly prepared and handled and cooked pork will not cause any problems with swine influenza."

Hauer said the affected pigs have since been quarantined and the farm has been restricted from moving any of its pigs, on or off the farm, without permits from the Canadian Food Inspection Agency.

Authorities are also monitoring the health of other pigs within the region, he said.

Hauer said pigs are affected by the H1N1 virus similarly to the way that humans are.

"It causes a mild disease that generally just passes on its own," Hauer said.

Hauer said it is "not terribly surprising" that a farm worker passed the H1N1 virus onto the herd of Alberta pigs, but health officials have advised pig farmers to increase their bio-security measures as a precaution against the disease.

He said the fact that the pigs in Alberta have been infected does not increase the risk that the H1N1 virus will evolve into a more dangerous type of flu.

Infectious disease specialist Dr. Neil Rau told CTV's Canada AM the idea that the infected pigs will inevitably cause the H1N1 flu to become more virulent is "completely speculative."

"Mutations could also make the virus less virulent," Rau said in an interview in Toronto on Monday morning, noting that the "odds are that it will be less virulent."

With a report from CTV's Robert Fife and files from The Canadian Press and The Associated Press

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Josh- I can't afford Mexico so No to my tax dollar
said

China really ticks me off, half the health department staff is tied up with Chinese food and everytime we find a sick animal to keep it out of the food chain, China uses it as excuse to ban our food products, maybe we should quit testing and they won't have an excuse for an excuse to get their little embargos
on Pigs or Cows over BSE, China doesn't like imports.
I don't want to hear those farmers whinning for more money either for my tax dollars, I can't afford to go to Mexico.


Roger T
said

The Chinese have ALL the rights to protect it's citizens and BAN products just like our Govt would do the same like toys recalls/ban. It's a two way game so when our Gov't bans products and do recalls and publish articles that tarnishes another country's image without thinking about future relations - welcome to reality.

Yes we are an open society but not as open as you think we are and not as advanced as we have put ourselves on a peddle stool.

Our Gov't should THINK Nand USE their brains before they make hasty decisions.

Restricting and containing the virus to protect it's one's society and citizens is the only option. Putting values on the lives of citizens over rids economic.

non thanks to Pork.


Dale
said

This pig flu is making me sick..I am sick and tired of hearing about it,so quit trying to spread panic over it and find something other to talk about...get over it.


Nancy - Contaminated Dog food requies Ban
said

Where is the ban on China food products???
Contaminated pet food, Contaminated baby formula with melamine, Toys with lead to mention just a few.



B. Kelley, Ontario
said

Humans are supposed to be the smartest species on earth but apparently we are just as stupid as the pigs. In fact, they're probably smarter than we are because they aren't running around believing that the sky is falling! I suggest that "H1N1" is a meaningless alternative to "Swine Flu". How about "PON Virus" (panic over nothing) which seems to be the order of the day.


WESTERNER
said

Well Panic strikes again in the hearts of the Consumer! Alberta has been hit hard with the BSE, Oil and now this Swine Flu. People should think first - sick animals are rejected at the kill door and are not processed ALSO when giving medication to a sick animal it has a TIME LENGTH before being accepted for slaughter and the farmer seperates it from the rest. Farmers are not stupid it's those that don't know how to handle livestock and don't know the facts of the process that blow things out of porportion. I was raised in the City and moved to the Country (as rural as you can get)learning ALOT from a VET and the Canada Food Inspection Agency, Alberta Agriculture. CTV should learn a thing or two before printing - education is a wonderful thing. Also, I've seen large scale Hog Producers (800+)in Alberta and they protect there stock by NOT having people wear street clothes or shoes into their barns - they MUST change out before entering.


Gumpy 123
said

I can totally understand why China feels the need to be so very very protective of isolating any potentially lethal virus. When you have a population that is as close and heavily populated as their's, it doesn't take much to have a massive epidemic (SARS). However, maybe we should be testing all of the products coming into our countries and banning the importing of products containing heavy amounts of lead and other things that cause our children to become deathly ill as well. Right now they are already in our country and the company that has imported them takes the hit. Quid pro quo I think.


Red X
said

The compromise would be to ban the pigs from the affected farm and surrounding ones in Alberta.

The People's Republic of China has a population of 1.33 Billion people. They make up about half the World's consumption of pork. It is understandable given the last time H1N1 was the "asian flu"...


Chris from Manitoba
said

To Roger - I don't know where to start with your comment. I'll take the high ground and limit my response to the issue at hand - the difference between our actions and those of the government of China is that H1N1 Type A is NOT a threat to food safety, melamine IS. If the Chinese government was really concerned about the safety of pork, they would address their own issues with clenbuterol. Canadian pork is some of the safest and most environmentally friendly in the world - I'll add tasty to the list as well.


Raj
said

Our PM has long since said what he thinks about China, from their human rights, to what they make! is he wrong? because they really bug me, I wish we didnt have 'made in china ' ovver our things.I intend to not buy anything from them.I buy less now.


Dan Ontario
said

RogerT

It has been said and said multiple times; you can not get H1N1 from eating pork. There is a difference between one farm having it and all farms across Canada. If Canada puts restrictions on toys with lead soaked paint than I call that an intelligent decision since our children are the one paying the price so we can keep a few extra dollars in our bank accounrts. You think China is going to come out and admit any of the problems it has in its country? How many times do you think they sweep health issues under the rug as if they never happened. China does not play on the same field as the rest of us and anyone who thinks they do is a fool.


Dave from NB
said

Josh
I watched a news report last night that showed a pig farm and the conditions the pigs live in. Not a pretty sight and it is a wonder that all they get is a little flu now and then. The article indicates that the price of pork was set to open at $1.22 a kg. How come I have to pay $3 for a pork chop to go with my $1 potato and $2 tossed salad. Someone is making a lot of money somewhere on these little critters. I cannot afford to go to Mexico either and I don't want my tax dollars going to a pig bailout. We have enough farm subsidies on the go right now.


schpid
said

You can't get the flu from eating pork. Your children can die however, from putting Chineses toys in their mouths and from using knock off tooth paste from China. As teh media is quick to publish the squeekiest wheels first, we can be guaranteed to not to hear the voice of knowledge or reason first on the front page but belatedly somewhere in the D section. Good news doesn't sell


island girl
said

Don't worry, Alberta. I'll eat your pork. This flu thing is just hype and no worse than seaonal flu. ... health officials are now admitting that 1/3 of 'swine flu' deaths in Mexico tested NEGATIVE for swine flu, making it no more deadly than seasonal flu. That's why the mortality rate is low/non-existent in countries that are actually testing. The virus also lacks the type of genetic material necessary to mutated to as dangerous a flu as the one in the early 1900's.


Jackie Barrett
said

I think as punishment for banning Canadian Pork products, especially from Alberta, due to China's over-reaction and not looking into the facts, I think Canada should impose a punishment against China ourselves.

A good retaliatory punishment is ban any product from China containing toxic chemicals, especially their foodstuffs.

Furthermore, the People's Republic of China should pay restitution to pig farmers from Alberta for not giving any thought to the consequences of banning pig products without looking at the facts.

China, while your country indeed has a right to protect its citizens, it doesn't have a right to ban products or livestock based on proven unfounded fears from major health agencies such as Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.


Rob W.
said

Can you get swine flu from handling the meat? (ie. processing plant workers, etc.) I don't think the ban involves cooked pork products, just live or recently butchered animals.
(I think the media is conveniently leaving this out to stoke things up.)


Rob W.
said

I think China is not simply banning pork simply as a thoughtless reaction. Might be that they are concerned about a system so full of holes that would allow a guy to walk straight off a plane from Mexico and onto a pig farm without so much as even the most basic screening. Also, you have to remember one of our meat processors just paid out 20 million in liability for killing 20 people not too long ago.



John C
said

Dan Ontario

"..you can not get H1N1 from eating pork....China does not play on the same field as the rest of us and anyone who thinks they do is a fool."

you have missing a major point:

do you really think that pigs would be shipped across the pacific in a frozen form... those pigs are shipped alive (imagine the cost to refrigerate those pigs and how the meat become rotted when the meat have reached the other side of the pacific) ... when the pigs reach to another country, these pigs could spread the flu to other living organism

the toy case is less severe, since the lead could not get to your body by itself. On the other hand, the damage of the flu in a densely populated area is much greater.

your ego and biased view is the reason why some people shed a negative light to your other innocent Canadian brother. people like you give us a bad name


Mac
said

STOP STOP STOP the panic - over 200 people die each year in this country alone from quote regular unquote flu - no one monitors the transmission of that flu - how many of you have been on a plane and got off in Mexico or wherever and come down sick - do we ban you ? As for the pigs - there is NO scientific evidence that we can can the flu for a pork roast or porkchops or ribs so for goodness sake sit back, bbq your pork ribs... and wash your hands before during and after handling anything - not just meat ! yipes.

As for CHina's ban - lawrdy what a bunch of hypocrites - where is the ban on their food products... they dont have ANY acceptable standards for food safety over there but the almighty dollar says turn a blind eye!!


CYL
said

More pork for us here in Canada, and with the abundance maybe it will be less expensive.... although I am not a pork consumer.


Sask Man
said

When something like this flu occurs it really brings out the lack of intelligence in people.

I can understand individuals misconceptions about the risks from the meat.. but to hear that whole countries want to ban pork from Canada, this shows igorance.

This whole fu thing has created fear and misinformation from very high ranking groups and people. It has been completely overblown. In the end it is just a flu. Not the 1918 pandemic. Just a flu.


andrea martin
said

There is over 21 countries banning Alberta pork. Why is China the only one mentioned?

Why is the media raising such a hype against China?


JP
said

This is all an experiment with a non-lethal virus to explore how a virus can potentially spread around the world. Some group is doing this on purpose. This virus is LESS DEADLY THAN REGULAR SEASONAL INFLUENZA. THERE IS NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT.
It has also been going around for a lot longer than it was first reported. It takes a certain number/frequency of occurrences for it to become noticed.
I ACTUALLY HAD this virus the last week of March. My symptoms were exactly that as described for this virus, and the doctor said that what I had was a new virus they'd been seeing around and the symptoms would pass within 2 weeks, and that there were no drugs she could give me for it.
The main difference between the seasonal flu and the "Swine Flu" was that you don't feel nauseous, just achy.


Tono
said

You tell them Day.

I agree with Raj. We need to stop having all our things Made In China. We need to increase domestic production of everything; clothes, toys, you name it.



Calgarian
said

Roger T… makes the most valid point in all these suggestions. The Harper Government has been slashing China at every turn, then we ban unsafe Chinese Toys, which was warranted… then we have this Holier than thou attitude of scolding China when it puts into effect a warranted ban on pork. Stockwell (Doris) Day should just go ride his sea-doo up to the Chinese capital.





Roger T
said

Stop swhining....we banned Chinese products not too long ago. The Chinese has every right and all the rights to banned our products especially if they feel threaten by it. Spreading the virus from Canaidan pigs isn't something to be proud of for Canadian farmers. Like our gov't would say when it comes to other comes products "You want to export your products, make it better and safe keep it". Well, I think China is also sending a message to our Gov't, so pratise what you preach, the farmers passed the virus to the pigs so deal with it. Perhaps, the farmers should hav taken more measures to safe keep their live stocks to avoid it from being banned. Suck it up, we Canadians are not the only ones the live life free from problems.

This is just a fair statement from a proud Canadian.


simon
said

Day has reason to be disappointed.

He was on a trade mission to China recently. He agreed to turn a blind eye on China's human rights violations.

China should a least know you contract swine flu by eating pork. It is as though they want to bluff Day.


rob
said

give your head a shake.infected pigs can transmit to humans when we eat it.doctors who say no let me feed them some pigs that are infected.common sense people.china is right to ban pigs from canada.i do the same if we got pigs from mexico.


MuskyBuck
said

Let me ask a question that hasn't been addressed in the column in any way...

Are the Chinese concerned about people eating Canadian hog products (doubtful) or are they concerned about non-slaughtered livestock being shipped into the country?

As I don't know for certain if live hogs are indeed shipped to Canada, I have to ask this question.

But it seems to me the thought hasn't even come up and there's an automatic assumption that people, including the aforementioned geographic brainiac, that Chinese are concerned about 'eating' product.

Seems to me there might be an area for discussion and communication if we can at least discover what the concern is from China's standpoint.

Oh by the way, funny no one here has mentioned how much Canada's travel advisory to Mexico was both unwarranted and completely destructive to Mexico's tourism industry.

And how unfair that was in hindsight.




Katt
said

Kind of funny don't you think? They stop the border for "Pork" Concerns when China sent us lead paint toys and Contaminated Baby Formula. I did not see Canada close the borders !!!! Isn't funny how what works for one doesn't work for the other


Harry
said

I also agree with Roger T. If any of you did half the research you think you did you would find that most of the Chinese toy scandal is because of inadequate designs by their parent companies in North America. In fact Mattel apologized to the chinese government for the slandering of its reputation due to dangerous toys that were designed by Matel and assembled in China. However, I don't think the news really mentioned this less than sensational story.

And please stop the hate on China, you really should spend some time there and experience the country before judging it.


my take on this
said

Governments in all the democratic countries are being run by big business. Big business has billions of dollars invested in countries like China and India. The people in China and India are making slave wages compared to other countries and big business loves low wages and no benefits. Big business loves the money that is available in most democratic countries but they don't like our wages or benefits. Big business is running our governments and there will be little or no action taken againest countries like China when they ban our exports or send us faulty products.


Graf Spee
said

There's a form on returning to Canada that asks if you've been on a farm while you were away. A pig farmer returns from Mexico and wasn't red flagged and now the pork producers are in a tizzy. Wake up and smell the bacon.


Bill in BC
said

I'm hoping that people are FINALLY begining to wake up and realize that this is JUST influenza. And a mild one at that.
As for the pork issue, maybe prices will come down a bit so I can have it more often on my table.
the press really has to STOP over sensationalizing things and report facts instead of crap.


Denis
said

It's pay-back time by China for the toy recall!


Confucius
said

Official who face firing squad because of his decisions becomes more conservative in his decision making.
- Ancient Chinese Proverb


Peter Wilson
said

I don't expect China to treat us with any favours. Why?
Harper snubbed China by missing the Beijing Olympics and by being very vocal about Muslin Uighurs being persecuted.
Stockwell Day has been also been pretty vocal on the Human rights issue - except, of course when it comes to the rights of Canadians Khadr and Abdelrazik.



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