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Date: Thu. Apr. 30 2009 9:52 PM ET

Liberal Leader Michael Ignatieff kicked off his party's convention in Vancouver Thursday by simultaneously thanking and slamming his Tory foes.

After all, it was Prime Minister Stephen Harper's risky partisan brinkmanship last fall which marked a turnaround for the Liberals after almost three years in the political wilderness.

"We have a unified party, we have a party out of debt and we have a party basically ready to fight an election," Ignatieff said at a press conference on Thursday.

"And, again, who would have thunk it? Who would've thought that this would be the result. And some of the credit, ironically enough, has to go to my chief adversary, Mr. Stephen Harper."

Last fall, Harper attempted to end public subsidies for political parties, which ignited a fierce response from the opposition and nearly resulted in the Tory's overthrow at the hands of a Liberal - NDP coalition, backed by the Bloc Quebecois.

Not long after the historic showdown, Stephane Dion quit as leader and Ignatieff took the party's helm -- a move which bypassed a potentially divisive leadership race and required rivals Bob Rae and Dominic LeBlanc to douse their leadership aspirations and step aside.

Since then, polls have tracked a startling reversal for the Liberals. In Quebec, a recent poll suggested that the Grits are now in front of the Bloc Quebecois for the first time in half a decade.

Paul Zed, Ignatieff's chief of staff, said the party is expecting around 2,000 delegates this weekend, which is more than expected.

"The big surprise, so far, is the number of delegates that have paid a lot of money to come and exchange ideas and be part of the renewal that is occurring across the country for the Liberal party," he told CTV's Power Play from Vancouver on Thursday.

Zed also denied Tory claims that the Liberals, if elected, will raise taxes in order to payoff Ottawa's massive stimulus deficit.

"One thing that Michael Ignatieff is going to do, is he's going to cut the deficit and he's going to make sure that Canadians get an opportunity to get jobs right across this country," he said.

"There are no new taxes coming in the middle of a recession, there are no new taxes coming in a recovery."

However, Zed conceded that the Grits will look at ways to "tighten" the government's belt by reviewing some federal programs.

Earlier in the day, CTV's Graham Richardson reported that the Liberals are hoping to further showcase Ignatieff's leadership talents, as well as their readiness for the next election.

According to the Liberal party website, the convention will host series of Thursday afternoon workshops that will tackle riding standards, political engagement and fundraising, among other topics.

The convention continues Friday and will wrap up on Saturday -- the same day that Ignatieff will officially be crowned leader.

Delegates will also vote on 30 resolutions that have been brought forward by riding presidents, including having a Liberal government invest heavily in child care, as well as social housing.

A pre-convention report commissioned by the party, suggested that members see Ignatieff as an agent of change with a "serious interest in party renewal at all levels."

However, the same report said that many grassroots Liberal supporters feel the party currently ignores them unless it is looking for money.

With files from The Canadian Press


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DCR-Toronto
said

This the biggest joke in the history of Canadian Democracy. Iggy parachutes into a "safe" Liberal riding so he can win. Then he loses in a fair race, so they now forgo the election process and leave tens of thousands of Liberal members without a voice in choosing a leader. They call this democracy? I guess it is..Liberal style. When the truth about this mans past comes out, Canadians will see him for the fraud he is. I looked on youtube and seen Iggy speaking in the USA. In that speech he referred to himself and his countrymen "we (amercicans)" several times. Now all of a sudden he wants to be the Prime Minister of Canada. What a joke. He already thinks he's the PM. Like it's his devine right...and us good litle Canadians should just listen. Professor knows best attitude. I'm looking forward to the Conservative attack ads. The thing is..the Conservatives don't have to do anything but show us Iggys past. It's all over the place on the net, in his books, and now...on our TV screens. Iggy...please do us all a favour and go home ..wherever that is..US, England?


Steve the Pundit
said

OOH! The excitement of a convention! The intrigue! The backroom deals! The winning over of delegates from one side to the other and the "dark horse" candidate coming from behind to take the brass ring! Democracy at its finest: of the people, by the people, for the people!

Oh, wait. There's NONE OF THAT. This is not a convention, it's a CORONATION! We know who won, the policy resolutions will be only those the elite want passed, stage managed to the last detail. The only drama is what color tie Ignatieff will wear during his acceptance speech (Oh wait, Liberal RED! No drama there, either!)

Welcome to political conventions, Liberal-style: of the entitled, by the entitled, for the entitled.


Mike on the tropical island of Morris, MB
said

YAWWWWWWNNN...


NS COLIN
said

Goodbye to Mr Harper's mean spirited government. Good luck Iggy!


Cyril
said

God has a sense of humour by arranging for the Canucks to be the only remaing Canadian team in the hockey playoffs and to be starting their series with Chicago in the midst of the Liberals' Convention. This is Hockey City and no one will be giving any heed to politics - and we are in the midst of a Provincial Election as well (and to top it off the popularity of the Provincial Liberals is falling). Any reporter with a press pass covering the Convention will be at the hockey games. So much for connecting with British Columbians- the reason given for selecting Vancouver as the city in which to hold the Federal Liberals' 2009 Convention.


Randy
said

I will admit Ignatieff is better than Dion, but that isn't saying much. I still don't see Ignatieff as the saviour of the Liberal party. But it's funny how the Conservative party has never fully recovered from the Mulroney era, yet everyone seems eager to jump into bed again with the Liberals, with the corruption of the Cretien era still fresh in everyones mind?


GO GO RED GO RED!
said

I am proud Liberal and I want to say Good bye Stephen Harper...

Harper is a sore loser and it is obviously he don't care about Canada as one whole nation.

By the way people should google Iggy's vision for Canada.. Amazing - I like him and I can see how this will happen. I think he is going to be our best prime minister ever... PET is still my # 1.

People - please remember that no matter which party or who Prime Minister is... Every Canada Goverment Make a Difference in Canada history!

Every government has both pro and con effects but overall it's good.

It's irony that harper's fans claimed that they are PROUDLY Canadian then they should give Liberal other chance to reshape our beautiful Country..... Liberal has been in government for many years far than any parties in history....

Fact is - Canada is awesome eh? then they must did good job.

Give them a other chance...

They are not like NDP so please don't refer them as cash-give-away party because they doesn't do that...

I've went through system - Liberal government is only one that got me on my foot therefore I am no longer on taxpayer payroll... I am on my own now...

Thanks Liberal! GO GO GO GO RED GO GO GO GO!


Tim from Calgary
said

I'm sure the Liberals will only discuss their God-given right to govern Canada. That's what the Liberals actually think. It's amazing how many people are duped by the Liberals and their non-ideas.


Doug BC
said

Now if this doesn't tale the rag off the bush,then nothing will.
One day Vancouver is being touted as one of the best cities in the world to live in,and THE VERY NEXT DAY we have this collection of social engineers invading or peace and serentity.
Is there no end to our growing list of economic and political woes?? Socialist conventions should really be held in socialist cities and provinces.
Oh well.We can just offer up some polite western hospitality and hope they leave when the coronation is over.The article correctly points out one reason I left the party.I was also tired of not being heard,EXCEPT when they needed money.Of course the creeping left wing policies didn't do much to keep me on board either.I was especially hurt when they rejected my suggestion that they re-name the party to "NDP Lite".


Bruce
said

Very low attendance, will the Liberals lose money on this farce?

Add to that the items up for policy debate are the same old tired ideas that have been constantly regurgitated since 1993.

The only one you won't see is a promise to scrap the GST.


Jim in Ontario
said

"Delegates will also vote on 30 resolutions that have been brought forward by riding presidents, including having a Liberal government invest heavily in child care, as well as social housing."

With all this new spending, no wonder Ignatieff was discussing last week the need for any Liberal government to raise taxes. He wouldn't want us working stiffs to waste "the government's money" on "beer and popcorn".




cantuc
said

Will they come up with at least one policy they will share with us un-enlightened peons at this convention ? I have been asking a few liberal friends for three real reasons to vote liberal since Paul Martin last ran for prime minister . I'm still waiting for one .


Mansella Rose in Awesome Calgary
said

I am a Conservative and yet I am intrigued by this convention... our party isn't what it used to be.


Rick in NB
said

@ Steve the Pundit:
" of the people, by the people, for the people "
Get your rants straight. This was quoted by Abraham lincoln.


john
said

Liberals mean tax hikes, more taxes, more taxes...look at McGuinty in Ontario. Now the big boys want public day care and social housing. I'm fed up with you left wingers, no one can afford any more taxes, get real with nyour demands...who do you think pays for all your social needs?


Gail (Hamilton)
said

DCR in Toronto...I couldn't have said it better. National Daycare (more government employees) will further erode the family and parental responsibility. More social housing doesn't improve the human condition, but makes those in need of housing more reliant on government where they see growing their voting base. Ignatieff is an international statist and will strike down individualism to build up collectivism. If the Liberals get a minority government, their pals the NDP/Bloc will help them bring in every socialist program they can to spread the wealth from the middleclass. Canadians can't afford to pay more taxes.


Edb
said

I believe Harper to be the last PM of Canada (as it currently exists). Much like Obama will be the last US president. I've never seen more division and polarization in the US since the "yes we can" train rolled into town. The great abandoner (I plagiarized that one) in Canada and the great redistributor in the US will make sure this continent becomes nothing more the a UN squatter's camp (seen University ave in Toronto lately). No coincidence there's a run on guns in the US. All I can say to my Canadian comrades is... hold onto yours!


MAL
said

I will be glued to my TV during the free vote count as one of our two founding parties shows the principals of democracy in action.

What? They already appointed some guy? Oh, nevermind.


Tony C in Toronto
said

To all our friends who complain about Liberals possibly raising taxes: Who do you think will have to pay for the federal budget deficit? Taxpayers, of course. Taxes will be raised and services will be cut in order to pay for the deficit. The Conservatives were left with a fairly large budgetary surplus. Now, the surplus is gone and we're facing a deficit. Who do you think will pay for that? Some poeple don't seem to understand that there's a link between the two.


All this whoopla and for what?
said

Honestly - why is every Liberal leadership convention given as much coverage as the Olympics and trumped up like a visit from the Queen?

None of the other parties gets this much media attention when they run their respective leadership races. Is this our predominatly left wing media showing it's colours again or do some people out there genuinely believe that because we're dealing with the "natural governing party" that Liberal leadership races are somehow "different" and that everybody better sit up and take notice?

I certainly don't recall the past few NDP, Conservative or Bloc Leadership Conventions having this kind of red carpet rolled out in terms of coverage. However, I do recall - and not so long ago either - that we were all treated to the same kind of media extravaganza when Mr.Dion took the reigns of the Liberal Party.

I find the lack of objectivity in their reporting and the explicit bias shown by CTV and others - dissapointing.


Andrea
said

I am watching parts of it on TV. The way I see it is, this is a good way to learn on what they would do if they did form the next govt. I imagine if the other parties held their conventions , they would also be televised on CPAC or some other station.

Never judge a book by its cover!

Now when I think of it, there should be a book and film convention. That way all politicians, and famous people can present their material to the public.


Charlie
said

What a disgrace the Liberal (with taxpayers money) Party has become. Now they are set to nominate a leader that's spent most of his life 'outside' of Canada. Yeah like he's in touch with the average Canadian.

I am sick of idiots that want to control/tax every element of life.

At least with PM Harper we get a 'real' Canadian that doesn't want to tax us to death!


Rufus
said

These people moaning about Iggy are the same ones that gave us Dion. Gimme a break.
Come up with someone better.


david sawkiw[saskatchewan farmer]
said

DCR toronto said "This is the biggest joke in the history of Canadian Democracy."

A renowned world traveller and global citizen once said to me "You Canadains are a strange breed,, you people actually still think you live in a democracy."

The longer I live, the more I learn, the truer those words become. Sad.


Domino
said

I don't think I'm going to watch the Liberal Coronation. We already know who the next king is going to be. And as for their platform, we already know what they are going to promise but not deliver. Do you think we're going to get daycare from them? Do you think we're going to get public housing from them? We've elected them before on those promises and they never delivered more than a token of what they promised. What is there to watch? It's a charade.


Rod (Calgary)
said

This is not a Leadership Convention. It is a Leadership Coronation where we already know the 'winner' and the 30 policy proposals have already been filtered. The Liberal Party wants to showcase their 'new' leader under the gize of a democratic convention. Why does the media want to cover it at all? Very sad situation for a once proud party.


just another stu
said

I'm with mansella.

a thoroughly disenfranchised life time conservative wandering the political back alleys like some latter day diogenes, searching for one honest and worthy politician.

what i do know is that mr harper and his social/seperatist/pseudoreformists triad do not do it for me.

maybe now is the time for the second coming of sinclair lewis...or david sparrow.


Johan, Newmarket
said

How can this be serious? A party of hope for all Canadians? Not this one


Wade: Dion beat Iggy, Harper can, but can Jack
said

Dion beat Ignatieff. So will Harper and next time Jack might too.


Andy Y - Vancouver
said

It amuses me so many Con-hacks are commenting on a Liberal convention...

You Cons might want to spend your time reminding your party leader that by getting into bed with the Bloc is apparently a "betrayal of the voters of this country" as he once so adamantly stated last Christmas...

Oh wait! It's now OK, isn't it? Or is it? I'm so confused. The Cons flip flop on so many of their own principles in their desperate need to white knuckle on to power, I can't keep up anymore....

At least Mulroney & the PCs had more dignity and self respect than this version of Conservative party has...

As for the convention, I am hopeful that the Libs put together a platform that is relevant to Canadians. Some real substance as opposed to attack ads and pontifications about principles that the candidates really don't believe anyway ( you know the typical Con political strategy)...


Marg
said

Hallalulah, a king is crowned!!!!!. Why are the Liberals even bothering to spend money on this convention. It is a done deal, no election, no other choice. If it comes to pass that "the king" becomes PM, I guess we will be ruled by an iron fist, and no-one will have any input. And some of you call PM Harper a dictator!!!!. He pales in comparison. I would just like to know what the other original candidates for leadership were offered to drop out of the race. Don't suppose we'll find that out any time soon.


Ken - Calgary
said

The bellyaching from the sore loser Conservatives on this site is outright pathetic. It's time for you all to realize that Canada is a centre-left country. Always has been, always will be. Conservative governments are nothing but stewards to the PM chair. You're all just upset because your ultra right wing Reform in Conservative Blue Sweatervest Clothing leader will NEVER, EVER get a majority government in this moderate country. Stop your whining. The Liberals have governed 80% of the last 100 years for a reason.

Michael Ignatieff will be the best PM this country has ever seen. Finally a leader who is willing to think outside the box, think big, and show that Canadians do NOT have to feel that we are nothing but America's weak neighbor. We can and are better than that. Or at least, we can be once the ultra right wing Reformers stop their bellyaching and accept their rightful place in the opposition seats.


Dan Toronto
said

It is amazing to see how Liberals will continue to vote Liberal no matter what it is the party does. These conventions only put fourth the same class of people who would do any thing or say anything to win a vote and as usual, much of the Canadian public follows blindly. If we seriously sat down and took the time to understand what it is the Liberals stand for, they would get a lot fewer votes come the net election. I for one will question their policies closely and not just vote because I heard Stephen Harper was a bad man.


Jeffrey E
said

the comments here are so divided and polarized. As a non-Canadian I think it is time you guys cast your vote taking into consideration whose platform benefit you, doesn't matter the party.


Red X
said

This should have happened a long time ago. The policies will have to deal with current and future problems.

As for the conservative posters; you can read Garth Turner's new book, "Sheeple" Caucus Confidential in Stephen Harper's Ottawa...


Ray in AB
said

to Tony C in Toronto
The deficit is not anyones fault in the current PM's Office. in fact if you simply look at your provincial liberal leader. your provinces deficit is almost as large as the federal deficit, so on a linear type calculation, a liberal PM would have doubled our current deficit in one year, probably like 200 billion in deficit spending. I say Cut all programs that help people who could help themselves.. let those who have 9 kids and are on welfare because they cant keep there legs closed suffer for there actions. Tired of spending money on free needles for drug addicts, and to be honest, I would rather have a system in place that doesnt allow every person with the sniffles to go to the hospital... and please send all those immigrants without jobs back home, theyre here for a year, and get to claim unempoyement, get medical.. etc, the rest of us had to pay taxes since we started working, we earned it. enough is enough. Go Conservative, and create a country of competers, a country of people who will always strive to do better because there will be nothing to fall back on. 45% tax is enough. Dont you liberals get that.. This is your fault. Now let us correct it


Peter Rapsey
said

DCR is obviously a conservative hack who may or may not have anything to do with the poor management and planning of our economy and country that is going on right now. It is ok to show your FEAR about a real party that has a real leader who understands real people.


Bill the Badger
said

I wonder how many previous negative comments have been organized and instigated surreptitiously by the Conservative party. Do they feel that they are in desperate straits as current polls are beginnng to indicate?


Mike vdB - Chatham, ON
said

Wow, I have never seen a poorer bunch of whiners and complainers then I have seen in this comment section.

If you can't get off your duff to help make a difference, then don't complain about the process you are dealt with.


Craig in BC
said

LOL the fiberals have the convention in a province where they are not even a player.. lol.. i hope all BC residents come out to show them how much we despise their party. The party from Toronto and Montreal


Bruce
said


Surplus from April 2008 to February 2009

http://www.fin.gc.ca/n08/09-038-eng.asp


Nancy - Selective Memory Convention
said

Selective memory convention forget about:

Carbon Tax
Supporting Hillary
GST increase
Adscam
Certain Books
Personal Bush relationships
Not caring about people

I hope they can remember the National anthem. The blind activists are open to any idea if a Liberal says it, but that doesn't make it credible.


Lionel Calgary- Clapping 4 themseleves not fooled
said

Endorsing the new leader shows how cold the Liberals have become, sure they care at election time. I won't be fooled by clapping for themselves at this theatrical event where nobody really beleives each other, where they repeat the same old insults they used in the past.
The Party had too many left over Conservatives, Republicans and NDPers who are trying to reinvent themselves, using the Liberal marketing.


Shannon
said

To "Tony C in Toronto"

The reason there was a surplus in the federal budget when the Liberals were in power is because they illegally taxed the EI Premiums to the tune of 60 billion dollars. Hmmmm. That's about the same amount as the surplus.

And the reason there is a deficit is because the Liberals demanded that Mr. Harper spend lots of money just like the Americans, or they were going to form a coalition to make it happen.

Watch the news a little more often and you might actually know what's going on.


Andy Y - Vancouver
said

A couple points for the ignorant.

Conventions are paid for by the political party, NOT taxpayers.

When the Cons dump Harper and replace him with Prentice, the Cons will get all the media attention, otherwise what is there to report on? Delegates in committees?


david sawkiw[past liberal farmer]
said

I've noticed a few people here like to post as former conservatives [then trash harper].

Don't see too many conservatives posting as liberals..........


Old fan
said

I used to be a fan of the Conservatives, but they've lost their grass roots party status. I've been writing to my MP about serious issues that have transpired over the past few months and to no avail I have not heard a peep. Let's just say that I'll be shopping in the next election for someone that cares for my vote.


Steve the Pundit
said

Thanks "Rick in NB"; nice to know you can Google a quote as obscure as one by Abraham Lincoln. He was a US president, you know...

Point being, the bagmen that run the Liberal party have hijacked one of the few remaining bastillions of democracy in politics - the convention - and turned it into a farce.

Democracy hijacked by the elite and entitled, just like the quote was hijacked from Abe Lincoln. Or do they not have irony and sarcasm in NB?


Rob NS
said

I can;t stand to look and listen to this self appointed PM. Did anyone tell him we collect this little things called votes...until he has a few, he should stop parading around pretending to represent Canadians! No one has voted for Iggy yet. Yet he walks and talks like he is King Iggy, Canadians are to low to even ask him about his Kingship. Where did they find this American/English cake eater...silver spoon is still showing....
If the common working Canadain thinks Iggy gives a hoot for them... Tell me one "Job" that Iggy ever had? He knows nothing of adverage Canadian life, and even less of middle or lower middle class... Liberals are out to lunch with this leader pick..it will fall apart soon...


Bill in BC
said

Iggy would make a horrible PM. Disband the Liberal Party!


RJ-makemyday
said

It's interesting how, at ctv.ca, the unabashed, long-time cheer-leading of the Conservative Party of Canada, is SO ingrained in their daily editorial decisions, that today's Liberal Convention story was pre-empted by a piece yesterday (doesn't say who but it has to be Robert Fife ! LOL) that the Conservatives hope to delay the presenting of the 2010 budget by "two months" so that they can be the government in power at the opening of the 2010 Winter Olympic Games !

Since ctv.ca is such a obvious perennial training ground for future Conservative politicians (i.e. Pamela Wallin, Mike Duffy, Geoff Scott, etc.) why not just put the Conservative Party colors on your website ?


Linda in Vancouver
said

Like that GO RED poster,I was a proud Liberal for decades.Right up until it became obvious they were nothing more than bleeding heart social engineers who are seneaking socialism is via the back door.I'm not fan of the NDP,but at least they don't hide the fact that socialism is their preferred option.GO GO RED is very selective about which parrts if Iggy's vision of Canada he/she refers to.READ THE WHOLE BOOK! This is one scary guy.
SOrry GO GO RED.But almost all of your post is little more than Liberal spin.Those who refer to current Liberals as "NDP Lite" have far better credibility that the nonsense in your post.TO suggest that the only way to be PROUDLY Canadian is to vote Liberal,is beyond garbage.
Still,not being a fan of Mr.Harpers either,I will wait for policy.I am sick to death of style.Give me policies I can vote FOR.Do not expect to get my vote by suggesting what I should vote AGAINST.
And,to respond to the other regular Harper Hater here,I would ask if you really think Garth Turner is credible in ANY circle?I mean really,if you want to know about issues,the last people you are likely to get non partisan information from are politicians.I think if you beleive much of what Garth Turner says,that would say more about you than it says about either Harper or Turner.
I urge ALL Canadians to shun the Liberals until they present real policies,and in detail.Do not be bribed with your own money.And,even if we don't like Harper,we in the west MUST avoid all federal Liberals until they let the west join Canada.
NO SENATE REFORM MUST = NO LIBERAL VOTES IN THE WEST.
If not,be prepared to remain a colony of Ontario socialism.


Dale - Edmonton
said

Wasn't Bob Rae in this race at one point? Just asking.


Stan
said

The party of Adscam rides again.
And CTV gives Iggy another tongue bath.


Committed Conservative
said

I don't know much about Ignatieff, but at least he isn't a socialist like Harper, who just gave billions of our tax dollars away to the car companies, and passed a left-wing stimulus budget, just so the economy wouldn't collapse.

Now I don't care if it does collapse- I've got enough saved up. But I agree with Gail from Hamilton- our taxes are too high, and a socialist like Harper will only make them higher. It's time to kick these socialists (who call themselves Conservatives) out of office and elect a more right wing party, like the Liberals.


R NS
said

Vote NO to higher taxes, Vote No to Self Appointed King Iggy's Liberals!

This rich spoiled person has never had to worry about making ends meet at the end of the month....ever!! He does not understand the adverage Canadian. We cannot afford his, "Raise taxes to pay for everything attitude"

Harper was the only PM that I can think of that actually lowered taxes.

Iggy has already stated that he would raise taxes. This would be very destructive to Canada right now, everyone with half a brain knows this. Why did the banks just lower the interest rate to a record .25%.... Because we need to spend our way out of a reccesion! They want us to borrow and spend!

If we get more taxes, as he Iggy stated more than once,...the people who sheepishly vote Liberal without doing any research, just because they usually vote liberal...Well I will say, I told you so....



Jim McB
said

There will be more Lib Left fawning media at the convention than delegates.

This guy is gaining in popularity while he has taken no positions on any matter, does not have any policy and has achieved nothing since being elected to parliament.

If there ever was a real case of "Sienfeld" this would have to be it!



Steve G
said

Wow....there's certainly no shortage of bitter Con supporters here.

Barring a top-down makeover of the Conservative party, they may well place forth in the next election.




RossD
said

This should go into the Guiness Book of World Records... Biggest collection of liars, thieves, and cheats under one roof.


James T.
said

Since the fix is in, and there isn't going to be a real leadership race, the question remains: Why bother even having a Liberal convention?

Obviously, this gathering is about ONE thing - the Carbon Tax - and how heirs of Pierre Elliott Trudeau can stick it to The West once again.

But we will NEVER forget the NEP, and we will never forgive the Liberals for robbing $200,000,000,000.00 from Alberta and Saskatchewan just to buy votes in Ontario and Quebec. Never, never, never, never, never!!!

Go back East, Liberals. No one wants you here...


Frank (Toronto)
said

I have just a couple of questions for Mr. Ignatieff.

(1) "Why, for 30 years, wasn't Canada worthy of your presence?" - You spent three decades working for the betterment (at least in your mind) students/post secondary systems in U-S-A and Great Britain.

(2) "Having spent most of your life working in superior (at least in your mind) nations, what makes you think Canada gives a damn how you plan to lead us to the promised land (or is that, "the land of the entitled"? - Are Liberals still entitled to their entitlements?



Steve (Vancouver)
said

What makes me wonder the most, is why all of the hard line pro-con posters on here are so passionate in their attacks towards the Liberal Party convention. Maybe that's how they voice their nervousness? Makes me wonder! Go Iggy!!


philip
said

Well I guess this is a good thing since Quebec is now engaging the rest of the country instead of ignoring everyone and sending a bunch of separatists to Ottawa. That's a really good sign. If its with the liberal party then so be it. At least we will get some dialogue now. Its funny how although everyone complains about Harper his antics in my opinion has united the country. Even if its united some parts against him. Its still unity. Good job Stephen.


westviewkid
said

Goodbye Harper


davidovich
said

I've seen Mr. Ignatieff in person and he doesn't look so sinister in real life.
Why does the press alway run these pictures of him looking like the Grinch Who Stole Christmas.
Please, lets try to be more sensitive in the future about what pictures are run of this great man.


Mike
said

Tim from Calgary says "were duped by the Liberals and their non-ideas"...this coming from a guy whose Province has elected the same buffoons for 38 years because they don't have an original thought and aren't educated enough to question good government...lol



Ryan in Burlington
said

How can they have a convention when they have no money??? My taxes better not pay for that garbage!

I guess a fool(s) and their money will soon be parted!

Good luck with that. Have fun. Be sure to get your toilet-paper goody-bag on the way out, along with your free signed book by Iggy. Best if used to prop up a wobbly table.


Cara
said

I saw the same interview as DCR. Ignatieff said several times, "we Americans" referring to himself and his fellow Americans. Not "we Canadians". Shows where his true loyalty lies. True Patriot Love my .....

As for the deficit. There wouldn't be one if the NDP, Liberal, Bloc coalition hadn't forced the spending in the first place then arrogantly put the Conservatives "on probation" to ensure that the spending takes place. Had they let the Conservatives move on the ecomomy as required, as they wanted to, in a slow and measured way, there wouldn't be a problem. The deficit was initiated by the three opposition parties in a power grab, not the Conservatives.


Red X
said

It has been 7 years since Harper was selected as leader of the Alliance. Even T.V. shows don't last that long now a days.

Moving forward after P.M. Ignatieff will be Prentice.
Down the road we could be looking at Justin Trudeau, Ben Mulroney? Ben Harper?!...


Stalin & Bush - You going to love Iggy
said

If you like Stalin and Bush your going to love Iggy.

Ignore the student anti-protestors, Iggy loves peace and Canadian values now (wink wink)


hannah
said

They stand for nothing, they offer nothing.


Peter Rapsey
said

To R NS - If you do your research, you will find a consistent fact. Liberals always dig the country out of Conservative financial management follie. See Mulroney- tripled the deficit left to him/Chretien fixed and Harper - however deep, it is $13B more than it needed to be/Iggy will fix.


Troy in B.C.
said

Damn, I wished the prevailing winds would have blown him back to the USA or out to sea the day he parachuted into the Liberal camp !!!! If he fails, who next ?? I'm sure you can find another forgeiner with some sort of a tie to Canada!! Can anybody tell me if he would have had to remove the silver spoon before jumping ??


DCR-Toronto
said

Peter Rapsey says "DCR is obviously a conservative hack"...
It just so happens that I once voted for the Liberal Party. However, I woke up to the facts. The Liberals allow themselves to waiver on ANYTHING if it suits their purpose. They are a "party of convenience". They tax us to death, then proceed to steal that same money for their own benefit. They balanced the budget and gained a surplus...not by proper management..but by robbing Peter to pay Paul(taking billions for the EI fund)...on the back of Canadian taxpayers! Again, for their on gain..not for the good of the country. If they hadn't stole that money, maybe Harper would be in a better position to help more people with EI.
Conservative Hack??? I think not. A voter, sir, that knows when to vote responsibly. Some others may want to do the same!


R D
said

Definition of a "Professor" 'I profess, therefore, It Is'. That's Iggy, OK.


don m
said

an american trained liberal.
this should be good


Scott in Victoria
said

Liberal Convention, DRAFT PROGRAM

2:00 pm - 3:30 pm Concurrent Workshops:
- Making Politics Meaningful: How to Engage Members by appointing a new leader rather than having delegates elect one.
- Fundraising: Road to Success - How to take members money without having to take there input.



Now, just you wait, Conservatives.
said

Harper hasn't told you what your opinion is yet.


K
said

The Liberals better pick some ridings in Edmonton and Calgary and push hard because if they don't start now we will never see red in Alberta. If there is not a Liberal riding and the Liberals win, then I have to listen to the people complain they have no representation. I swear people in Alberta get all angry about the Quebec separatists but they are the first ones to shout, "Alberta should separate, when its conservatives lose an election."


Kevin in Alberta
said

want to see less of your money, vote Liberal!


Concerned Canadian
said

Just a totally wasted effort by yet another REGIONAL PARTY. They will never represent rural Canadians, never represent the west, never represent the hard working Canadians that go out every day to make a living so they can support their families. Hell, they won't even support their own grassroot members unless they need to sucker them for money.

They will only support their own "elite" and the new Canadians as long as they vote for them.


Where was the LPC grassroots vote Ignatieff??
said

Martha do we have any tea and cookies.... this show is boring!

Next channnel


Greg in Cambridge
said

How many ways can you say...."who cares?"
Liberals are irrelevant!


Sean from Winnipeg
said

GO GO RED GO RED!
"Harper is a sore loser..."

Harper is a sore loser???? hahahah! Should I remind you who was ready to jump into bed with a coalition weeks after losing a second straight election? That doesn't say "good sportsmanship" to me.

"they should give Liberal other chance to reshape our beautiful Country"

I smell Liberal entitlement mentality here. Actually, the Conservatives are trying to reshape the country that was damaged by thirteen years of Liberal government - a reshaping that began within months of his election, with a 2% reduction in GST, and the accountability act to name a few - more money to Canadians and less money secretly given to Liberal friendly ad firms. People think Harper is mean spirited for trying to pull in the reigns on some of the willy-nilly spending of past Liberal governments. The fact is that the Harper government had quite the mess to clean up when they came to power. Give them a few more years in office to really govern, and Canada will be a beautiful place.

Go Blue :)


Randy
said

To Jeffrey E, exactly! I am not a member of or support any one party. I place my vote based on who I think has the best leader with the best policies. Unfortunately, Canada is so divided, that there are those that will always vote one way, no matter how badly their party may screw up. How will we ever get change if people are willing to give their party carte blanche?


KC-Bby
said

Go Iggy!!!
Bye Harper...I bet you wished the liberal party kept their old leader to make you look good.


anti redneck Cnd
said

Anything is better than the science hating red necks we have in power now. They are on the wrong path and I can't wait till a party that believes in progress and actualy likes our country is back in power. Conservatism is dead as an idea and hopefully soon as a party


If Ignatieff is so bad a choice for Liberal leader
said

why are so many Conservatives upset?

Fear always seems to confuse what passes for their thinking.




Denise Julien
said

How is it that all of the conservative lovers, bash all other parties and yet never really consider that this current, self rightious current PM is a diaster for Canada. His new mandatory minimum Bill c-15 with a focus on the "drug war", which by the way would see a person with 1 marijuana plant imprisoned for 6 months,(real anti-gang stratigy)has been tried by Americans for over 30 years and has been a complete and dismal failure. That might not bother any of you who feel it gets tough on crime, but as taxpayers,it might interest you to know this American failure, cost them 100's of billions of dollars for absolutely nothing. Now if the PM doesn't know this I am embarrassed for him and scared to death for this country. As Americans move to repeal these insane policies we race toward jailing the wrong people.Where is all of this money supposed to come from? and for what. What purpose could including 1 plant in anti-gang legislation be ment for? Have any of us heard of a cartel growing 1 plant? A real thinker this guy, great economist, god help us, and in case your wondering,, No, I don't use marijuana, but I am sensible enough to realize a failed policy is a failed policy. We don't usually have the good fortune, when passing stupid, costly, ineffective bills of looking at a 30 year old failure before we move on them. This should add a few 100 million to the already broken finances of Canada while at the same time target all the wrong people. Funny,,,, there are no mandatory minimums for child molestors. Go figure.


Terri
said

Of course Iggie knows what is best for Canada. Deep in our hearts we all want to be the 53rd state.Oh boy I can hardly wait. He scares me. He should scare all of you.


John
said

Could the Tory apologists please take a break? Nobody buys your mock indignation. The fact that you are always the first to comment on all things Liberal only tells me that besides being a party hack, you have no life. You guys need to get out more.


cantuc
said

Wow , Paul Zeds lips flaffed 15 times and 16 lies flopped out . The man has a talent . How in the name of honest journalism and self respect can Graham Richardson sit there and let that craqp flow , unchallenged .


John From Saskatoon
said

Iggy said it when he said that the Liberal Party would be a party for all MORONS. The liberals are the biggest ones out there. When are they going to give us the money back from Adscam and other little gems they have put over on the taxpayer



A Koster - BC
said

Since he's here, would be nice to see Ignatieff give Campbell a long overdue attitude adjustment. Until that's done, I won't be voting for liberals at any level.


BCMC
said

It's a great opportunity to see the Liberal way in action. No run off for the most popular to become leader. Can you imagine if he ever got elected, he would manage the country in the same way his party has chosen its leader? I think it’s time to take up huntIng.


Reece
said

Looks like Harper is the Tories own Stephane Dion.

Hope you guys keep him. He failed how many times to get a majority?? How many kicks at the can does this guy get anyway? Good for you, Harper!


THE Fatman
said

"Dale - Edmonton
Wasn't Bob Rae in this race at one point? Just asking."

Yep. Understand he won't be at this convention though. Apparently he's taking a correspondence course entitled 'Basic Accounting Principals for Dummies' so when his buddy Iggy gets to be PM, Bob'll be ready for the Finance portfolio.

(Now that thought out to be 'nuff to scare the socks off ya!)




Jojo - fed up with Liberal yahooisms!
said

Liberal govn't means more taxes. We are not high income people, but we were hit with 2k tax bills 2times the last 4 years of the Liberal regime. Harper said he'd lower the taxes I had to pay, and HE DID! The Libs will hand the tax break back to the bigger guys and lay the tax burden back into the lap of lower incomes!


AMG - BC
said

to RJ-makemyday
The coverage on the liberal convention could well have been a request for low key to distance them from their provincial counterparts. If you aren't already aware, the provincial liberals aren't too popular among people in BC these days.
As far as having the Conservatives in power during the Olympics, one might look ahead and say bring it on... we could well be in the throes of second wave pandemic by then. Along with the economy, job losses, cruise ships already cancelling Vancouver as a port, the homeless situation here, that water main break at the brand new $900 mil jewel of a convention centre, I believe that the $6 billion 2010 Olympics will look exceedingly good on Harper.


Allan Eizinas
said

This Harper led New Conservative Party hit its maximum ceiling during the last election. The Liberals were reeling under Dion and his pitiful “Green Shift” policy. Even under those conditions the electorate would not give the Reform/Alliance dominated Conservative Party a majority. They will never have that easy an opportunity again.

As long as the Reform/Alliance Harper and his inner circle continues to lead and to dictate to the rest of the party then they will continue to lose popularity. Already the promised “hybrid” of Reform/PC is beginning to look like a Frankenstein with its sutures beginning to unravel.

In Ignatieff we are looking at the next Prime Minister of Canada.


G in Ont... and a proud Liberal
said

Harper will pull a Mulruney soon. He will step aside and retire after he done as much damage to Canada as he thinks he could possibly do. Then Iggy will be left holding the bag to fix it.




sheila
said

My mom is a die hard liberal, she is ticked that Iggy is the leader, if they want her money, they are not going to get it.As far as she is cocerned she was ignored 100%in her choice of PM in waiting.


BC Guy
said

Lots of leadership conventions are coronations. Martin and Harper were the last two where the outcome was a foregone conclusion. It used to be the Conservatives who pointed out the obvious fact that you can't keep cutting taxes and running deficits forever. Now they assert it is a fact that should scare us because it was stated by a Liberal. Weird.


KW, Alberta
said

Ken - Calgary: I'm terribly sorry but I couldn't hear anything useful you had to say over the loud sound of "blah blah blah, we are entitled to govern forever" coming from your post.....


Marg
said

That's exactly what set Innatieff "on fire", the fact that the Conservatives wanted to take away public funding for political parties. It wasn't about Canadians, or the economy, they simply didn't want to lose the funding, which by the way most Canadians didn't even know existed.That is when I lost respect for the Liberal party and their new "annointed "leader Ignatieff. They are too much about what is best for them, and to hell with everyone else!!!!


james.
said

More like after the failed Coalition of the Stooges, the Liberals fired Dion, muzzled Rae, and coronated Ignatieff; one of the most right-wing politicians this country has ever seen.

Funny what the Fiberals will do when they want to get hold of the purse strings.


Taxpayer in Canada
said

If you want higher taxes, note for Liberals!


Torontonian
said

DCR,

The fact that Ignatieff was elected to a "safe" Liberal riding is meaningless. Stephen Harper was elected to one of the safest Tory ridings in the country. No party other than Conservative, Reform, etc has ever won it since it was created in 1987. So you're being hypocritical there.

And sure his leadership went uncontested, but it wasn't him that demanded it. The other contestants realized that the leadership race would have been divisive and split the party even further. Now that they are more united than the Conservatives, I'd say it was a good choice.

And I'd love to see these "attack ads" that you speak of. I think it'll be quite a bit harder for the Tories to create attacks ads on Ignatieff than on Dion. And guess what, the Liberals will actually have the finances this time around to fight fire with fire. So, Iggy will eventually be going to his new home, 24 Sussex Dr.


Edmonton John
said

Omigosh this is too funny.

All the poor panicking Harperites with nothing to offer but tired of cliches...until...fanfare, please....

"If you like Stalin or Bush your (sic) going to love Iggy."

That's it! That's the one! By far and away this is the most inane and preposterous Harperite post...ever.

This is more out there than all the coalition drivel put together. Oh, how the Harperites hated the agreement with the Bloc! They even used the S-word.

Not any more, bwahahaha!

Stalin and Bush, it slays me, totally ROTFLMFAO!


R NS
said

Silly Iggy will be found outsoon...His double talk has caight up with him a few times already....

I will raise taxes!

I mean I want to raise taxes...but maybe not right away....

I doubt I will raise taxes!

I will give Quebec everything...from the taxes of the rest of Canadians..

I am American!

I am from England.

I am Russian, like my Dad.

I am Canadian...King of Canada.

We see the double talk...tell whoever listening at the time what they want to hear...easy to do as opposition with no real ideas on the table...


DCR-Toronto
said

Torontonian. Umm, think again k. Harper won the riding he is in, in an election. Not parachuted in. He was not placed strategically. He lived in that riding for YEARS. Iggy has not been voted in as leader, and he was GIVEN a riding that he knew would win.
You seem to be confusing elected with appointed. Such as most Liberal sheep.


Jerry O'Connor
said

I beg to differ with the Liberal leader Ignatiuf as to who is responsible and for what.

The real reason why the Liberals have been in the "dessert" for three years as Ignatiuf so correctly points out by his own volition is much to the credit and solely in part thanks to the corrupt Liberal 'SPONSORSHIP SCANDAL". How quickly Mr. Ignatiuf forgets. All this to do about nothing and breast thumping coming from a "drop shipped" politician from Boston U.S.A. who hardly spent a day of his life here in Canada over the last 30 years.

The only thing that is back and even bigger is......Liberal arrogance.


steve, simcoe
said

All the negative comments about the Liberals in this section are from the other party members feeling the pressure and refusing to accept the fact that Harper is the one helping to rebuild the Liberal party. The "I can do no wrong" Harper has one goal in mind and that is to have the Reform party stay in power. Oops! Did I say the Reform party. I mean the newly created, merged and borrowed the "Conservative" name party. The polls numbers, the donations pouring in and the constant negative attacks of Harper is a sign of a minority leader fighting for survival. Making deals with the Bloc and NDP is definitely a desparate move.


R NS
said

To Peter Rapsey,

I like the idea that the Liberals try to sell..we always get out of the hole and have extra money in our coffers....
You see Peter..that is the problem. It is not the Liberals money to put in their coffers! It is ours, yours and mine. It is our hard earned money. They raise the tax, or create new ones...collect our money, and all of a sudden they call themselves Heros, meanwhile I money is spilling out of their pockets and disappearing into unexplained scandels...millions at a time...

This latest money that the PCs did pledge...was forced by the Coup attempt of the Liberals, Bloc, and NDP...just weeks after Canadians had voted a new Goverment. The Cons are smart enough to know that they will not getdollar for dollar back on that bailout money...but if they were overthrown...the Coup would have wasted a heck of a lot more of OUR money...and we would be getting ready to vote the Conservatives back in...right about now...
I'm a moderate...and could change parties..but not with American Iggy at the Helm.

Jack has some good ideas with UI and Moms lately...that's productive Opposition Goverment...not just bashing the Goverment in Power.


Jayme
said

G in Ont... and a proud Liberal

Yes and if the libearls did not leave such a massive mess for harper.Well maybe we would be in much better shape.I find it funny thata re you so called liberals supporters blame harpers for all of this.While in fact alot of this blame should be on the liberals.


steve, simcoe
said

The steady stream of negative comments might be the work of the Conservative/Reform party. It is too coincidental to have back to back comments in anything posted here. Is Harper behind this? I am referring to the "I can do no wrong" Harper as well as the "Pitbull Motormouth" Baird.


davidovich
said

Hey G in Ont... and a proud Liberal.
Brian Mulroney gave Canadians the GST which gave the Liberals the opportunity to run surpluses year after year.
Also Mulroney has a better record on the environment than any other prime minister in the history of Canada. A much better legacy than the Kyoto signing photo-op Liberal. Don't beleive me? Just ask David Suzuki.
Mulroney also gave us free trade which has been good for Canada.
He left the John Chretian Liberals holding the bag alright - A bag filled with gold.


Terri
said

Are you kidding me torontonian. He didn't demand it, he just took it. I said it before and I will say it again-this guy scares me to death. Why did he come back to Canada all of a sudden, why was he splashing his picture all over NY? Why does he call himself an American when talking to Americans and why does he call himself Canadian when running for PM? What is the hidden agenda? And don't tell me there isn't one because I think there is. I am not the only one either. Another billionaire running the show. HAH,He sure would understand my needs.


John
said

What a loser!!! Goating in someone elses problems.


Naveed
said

I met Mr Ignatieff at his recent book signing. I met the future Prime Minister of this country. And a damn good Prime Minister he will make.
People who denigrate him for being out of the country so long, are frankly silly asses. Iggy has world experience, and came back to his country Canada to lead us out of the yoke of the moron we have as current PM. He has ancestral roots in this country, and we can't all say the same.
Vote Liberal! Vote for Michael Ignatieff a true leader, intelligent and caring for Canada.


Elias Nasrallah
said

Let me see: We have to raise taxes- I lived in the U.S.A for 30 years and I want to be P.M. I want to raise taxes. I was not elected leader of the Liberal Party. I want to raise taxes. I am smarter then anyone else. I want to raise taxes. I have published a book. I want to raise taxes. Way to go Iggy, MY HERO! Come on there Libs....Get a Canadian, not an American for your leader.


waynestunes
said

I agree with Randy.Lies and more taxes.As mean as the PC party is ,and they have the big (M) in their past.But the money that went to the gun reg and the seperation thing (Montreal),lol is just too much.We can't trust the liberals at this time.People should pay more attention to what is happening now , and the past.


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