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Date: Wed. Apr. 29 2009 1:26 PM ET

Pope Benedict has said he is sorry for the physical and sexual abuse and "deplorable" conduct at Catholic church-run Canadian residential schools.

The Vatican says the pontiff expressed his sorrow and emphasized that "acts of abuse cannot be tolerated" at a meeting Wednesday with representatives of native Canadians.

"Given the sufferings that some indigenous children experienced in the Canadian residential school system, the Holy Father expressed his sorrow at the anguish caused by the deplorable conduct of some members of the church and he offered his sympathy and prayerful solidarity," a statement from the Vatican said.

Archbishop Gerard Pettipas of the Canadian Conference of Catholic Bishops, who attended Wednesday's meeting, says it was an important moment.

Until today, the Church as a whole had never apologized for the abuse that aboriginal students suffered at the hands of Catholic missionary congregations.

"What we've been trying to do is to bring about healing and reconciliation between the Church, the government of Canada and our First Nations people," he told Canada AM shortly after the meeting.

"There was a feeling that despite the apologies that were offered by the oblates and some bishops, that the Catholic Church as a whole has not recognized the part that we played.

"As a gesture of reconciliation... it was important to hear from the one person who does speak for the Catholic Church around the world, to hear him say 'I am sorry. I feel for what you people have suffered. We hope that we can turn the page and move toward a better future together.'"

Chief Edward John of the Tlazten First Nations says he hopes the apology will help "many people move forward."

"We heard the prime minister's apology a year ago in June. And today, to listen to the Holy Father explain his profound sorrow and sadness and to express that there was no room for this sort of abuse to take place in the residential schools, that is an emotional barrier that now has been lifted for many people," he said.

Phil Fontaine, national chief of the Assembly of First Nations, said he appreciated the apology from the Church.

"I think His Holiness understands the pain that was endured by so many and I heard him say that it caused him great anguish," said Fontaine, who attended the meetings, on Wednesday.

"I also heard His Holiness say that the abuse of the nature that was inflicted on us has no place in the Church, it's intolerable and it caused him great anguish."

"What I heard," Fontaine added, "it gives me comfort."

More than 150,000 native children were forced to attend the schools from the 19th century until the 1970s. It was part of an effort to remove them from the influence of their homes and culture and assimilate the children into Canadian society.

The Canadian government has admitted that physical and sexual abuse in the schools was rampant. Many students recall being beaten for speaking their native languages and losing touch with their parents.

Prime Minister Stephen Harper issued a formal apology in Parliament last year, calling the treatment of children at the schools a sad chapter in the country's history. He said the policy of forced assimilation was wrong, caused great harm, and had no place in the country.

Canada has also offered compensation, as part of a lawsuit settlement between the government, churches and surviving students.

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Daniel R.Ryan
said

Good news all around I certainly hope we can turn the page and move on with Aborginal lives.


pete
said

While apologies are always welcome, nothing will change the history of what happened to our First Nations Peoples.

I hope this does help them move forward and break free of the shackles that for too long have tethered these people the past. I am a proud Canadian, but I am not proud of our past record with respect to our First Nations. Sadly this chapter in our history is still playing out...


g
said

Well Mr. Catholic Pope ... first of all a prayer is not nearly enough. Neither is an apology - How about returning all the money given to the Catholic church by the government of Canada to run these schools and turn it over to the children you physically, mentally and sexually abuse day after day for more than 25 years. God and religion .... how is it that you have the audacity to come to the table now. In the name of god ... and that makes it all better. Get out of Canada ... stay out of Canada ... and turn over some of the hundreds of billions of dollares your vatican is sitting on to repay for what you did.


david sawkiw[sasakatchewan farmer]
said

Here we go again!!
What exactly did the pope do??
Why does he have to apologize??
If the media REALY wanted to stop atrocities,, check out Oprah's school in Africa,she is doing EXACTLY the same thing today as what happened here years ago!

And humans are supposed to learn from their mistakes,,, what a farce ...

Yeah, this comment is not likely to make it past the moderators, because it is not in good taste or not politically correct,, but hey,, sometimes the TRUTH just isn't pretty,, not MY fault...



Trent
said

I still don't understand why the church did not pay the compensation it was there people, why should us tax payers pay for the mistakes of the church? I wish anytime I made a mistake the goverment would pay it for me....


MAL
said

Re: david sawkiw[sasakatchewan farmer]

Well, since you took my comment verbatim before I could even type it [lol]... I will add:

DITTO!

Enough apologizing for the past, this man did not abuse Canadian children. Legal issues should be looked after but the 'mea culpa's' in the world today are a waste of time.


Point Break
said

Pope should be sorry for "residential schools" not just sorry for "abuse at residential schools'.

Were not the "residential schools" that Canada set up to "kill the indian in the child" a form of "silent" ethnic cleansing. Is not ethnic cleansing a crime under international law?

Two "overt" instances of ethnic cleansing in the United States come to mind: "Cherokee trail of tears" and the "Choctaw Trail of Tears".

Clearly the question remains: Did not US & Canada with the help of the "pope/religion" commit acts of genocide?


James in THE Yukon
said

GEE, isn't that sweet that the CHURCH can finally admit their role the played in messing up a few generations!

The church stopped short though as the finacial compensation is left up to the TAXPAYERS of Canada vs the CHURCH that was responsible!

This whole poor victim role played out by the folks whom claim to be more special than the rest of Canada...must end & soon as the resources & money spent on less than 5% of Canadas population, has exceeded ridiculous a way long time ago.
We are winding the clock BACKWARDS in time to the 18th century, awarding HUGE chunks of land in the Yukon & huge payouts to the natives whom blame the rest of PRESENT day Canadians for ALL that woes them.
MAKE THE POPE OPEN THE VATICAN CHEQUEBOOK & EASE OUR TAX BURDEN!


w
said


Well Mr. Catholic Pope ... first of all a prayer is not nearly enough. Neither is an apology - How about returning all the money given to the Catholic church by the government of Canada to run these schools and turn it over to the children you physically, mentally and sexually abuse day after day for more than 25 years. God and religion .... how is it that you have the audacity to come to the table now.

In the name of god ... and that makes it all better. Get out of Canada ... stay out of Canada ... and turn over some of the hundreds of billions of dollares your vatican is sitting on to repay for what you did."

But money will make things better?


Daly de Gagne
said

An apology is a gracious move, but as an Aboriginal person working as therapist and chaplain with people who were traumatized in these schools, I am painfully aware that we do not have nearly the resources needed to do the healing work required. For years the Catholic and other churches have relied on lawyer-mediated settlements to decrease the monetary consequences for beating, raping, and terrorizing our children in what often amounted to prison camps for kids. Now, in the spirit of true remorse, accountability, and repentance let the churches, governments, and law firms give us what we need to heal these wounds of the past.


All my relations,

Daly de Gagné

Winnipeg, MB


Laura Langstaff
said

Apologies are one phase of repentance. Restitution is another. This is a step in the right direction, however, there needs to be a greater understanding of the multi-generational legacy of physical and sexual abuse that plagues First Nations and Metis today. When generations of children are removed from family and community structures and roles, the skills required to be a family member are lost. The ability to make familial connections is impaired. First Nations and Metis leadership have also been affected and are the walking wounded of this legacy. It is not just something that happened long ago that we should just get over. We need to rebuild our Aboriginal family structures, reclaim the generations, teach the skills that were important long before First Contact. Remember, we weren't the savages. We didn't have jails to imprison one another. When Europeans landed here, sick, unable to stay in their land and be free, they brought their weak selves and "married up" when they formed unions with Aboriginal women. We didn't need European standards of behaviour imposed upon us. We need to return to living by Aboriginal standards of behaviour. We need the mechanisms to reconnect our youth with those standards.


Step up
said

'G', u talk as if the pope did it himself, or God. The first nations demanded and apology, they got it. Of course the apology wont turn back the hand of time and repair the damage, but at least you know that they understand what was done.
Everyone, even the caucasians are hurt by what happened.
If the people that did this could be resurrected from their graves to apologise and suffer for what they did, would that make you happy? Of course it would, but it's impossible isn't it? We don't always get what we want. I was hurt too, but let's move on. Let's just move on. Please


william
said

Jesus said it best." Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because you resemble whitewashed graves, which outwardly indeed appear beautiful but inside are full of dead men's bones and every sort of uncleanness."


Charles
said

My father was abused at school by catholic nuns, he didn't receive a dime nor an apology. It pays to be native.


Rick in NB
said

@ g:
First of all the Pope is not in Canada. And this money you speak of is the burden of the Anglican, Catholic and Presbyterian churches. If you want it known that you hate Catholics. Your mission is complete.


dwayne-ottawa
said

HEY ALL U DO-GOODERS

What good is an apology if the people it is intended for never hear it? then its just hot air coming out of a mouth


Roger T
said

The Aboriginal people is not looking for an excuse from the Pope and from our Gov't. They need to manage their own land and rights which has been taken from them by force. The Pope has nothing to do with or knowing Aboriginal issues, it's better that he remains confined in the Vatican with his followers.


As a G8 member, it's disgusting to know that Aboriginals suffer at the hands of our Gov't who constantly preaches about Human Rights issues to other countrues while our Gov't keeps coming up with excuses to deny them to serve in Pariliment.


Apologies are just an extension of excuses that prolongs the truth and facts to appease readers and citizens.


They want actions.


Laureen
said

"g" you need to go to a school of respect. May I suggest people actually read some history and discover the tribal behavior of the native peoples in history? For example, how the Canadian Martyrs: Jean de Brébeuf, Gabriel Lalemant, Antoine Daniel, Charles Garnier, Noël Chabanel, Isaac Jogues,
René Goupil & Jean de Lalande
were tortured and murdered? It isn't all one-sided. Why doesn't anyone ever speak of this? Educate yourselves. Stop allowing mainstream media to engineer your thinking.


Joe Athiest
said

Why do we allow an organization best known for harboring pedophiles and torturing heretics to continue to exist? How can anyone put money in the basket knowing that it's more likely to be spent keeping known child molesters out of prison than it is to feed hungry mouths? And by the way Mr. Pope, I'm sure "GOD" is really impressed that that you're living in the lap of luxury, in a gaudy palace on top of a mountain of gold while millions suffer/die of starvation... WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!


duck
said

Good for you Pope, Now what about the abusers. Some are in Canadian prisons at the expense of the taxpayer of Canada. Why doesn't the "CHURCH" offer to take these criminals to Rome and have them clean the catacombs or something. History tells us the perpotrators just get moved to another parish. They should be shipped to Rome and Vatican city where they are looked after by the church and removed from Canada or any other country where abuse takes place at the hands of a priest


Ted
said

When a person is murdered, it is over for them. An abused person, especially with sexual abuse, it is a lifetime sentence. A lady, who had been sexually abused as a child once told me, "They took my heart. They took my soul. They took everything. They left me with nothing." Talk about a life sentence. Apologies aren't enough, especially when so much has been covered up. Why wouldn't the church just expose these people and have them prosecuted. Can't even the churches do the decent thing?


ken in toronto
said

From Point Break


"Clearly the question remains: Did not US & Canada with the help of the 'pope/religion' commit acts of genocide?"


Why do you seem to suppose this is even in "question"? Such actions are the very definition of cultural genocide.




Ed
said

G - Your statement seems like you are a vengeful person - If you haven't learned life’s lesson, it doesn’t matter how many apologies you get or how much money in compensation is paid because it doesn’t erase what happened. The best thing that can come out of it is having it not happen again. Point of fact - Pope Benedict was not here so saying "he" did these things is erroneous at the least, and likely more out of spite and vindictiveness. If you carry this kind of anger around with you in your life it will take a toll on you and you and your family will end up suffering needlessly because you haven’t learned to forgive or at least deal with your anger issues.


Don
said

G


You said, "Get out of Canada ... stay out of Canada ... and turn over some of the hundreds of billions of dollares your vatican is sitting on to repay for what you did".


These comments are mean-spirited. They are the type of attitudes that perpetuate hurt and make it harder to fturn te page on this. Also, it is time for more first nations people to take more responsibility in the here and now and move on. The past can't be changed nor will getting financial compensation necessarily help...as we have seen examples in the media. I am part first nations.


g
said

w - said - Money will make it better?


Good point W. However the Vatican has untold billions of assets invested all over the US and other countries. Yet the taxpayer has been held responcible for the churches actions. I wonder why many of those responcible are taken to other countries and not jail? Money won't make it better ... you are quite right. It would be the only real way of punishing those that condoned these deeds as they seem to be above the law. I have a friend who spent 3 months in a res school ... her sisters and brothers were in there for over 3 years. I guess you just have to hear and see the damage that was done .... Money is what the church asks for most ... so money they should pay. When you look at the lavish lifestyle the pope leads ....


Sask
said

Take a ticket and get in line, the Pope has a lot of apologizing to do for the Church starting with laundering Nazi gold through the Vatican Bank and helping Nazis escape justice. The Catholic Church ought to have its tax free status revoked as it is more of a racket than a religion.


Michael (Ottawa)
said

The pope has a credibility problem. His comments come decades after the fact and always when society has dealt with the issues in the courts. The Roman church rarely deals with these things in a forthright manner when they happen. History has recorded that the Roman church initiates cover ups and shuffles around the deviant priests which is their usual way of dealing with these issues.


So much for the comment "acts of abuse cannot be tolerated". History says they were tolerated. Its always the same remorse always shows up when one is caught never before.


My bible tells me "you will know them by their fruit".





Melissa
said

*Sigh*
It's time to move on.


All people have been treated unfairly, there comes a time to put the past in the past and move on.


Before I get headhunted, I'm Aboriginal and have moved forward, got educated and now work in a hospital.


Jacky Tar
said

@James in THE Yukon:

"MAKE THE POPE OPEN THE VATICAN CHEQUEBOOK & EASE OUR TAX BURDEN!"

Exactly *how* do you propose that should happen? In case it's escaped your notice, the Vatican is a sovereign nation. A small one, it's true, but sovereign just the same. Short of invading - and wouldn't that look sweet on the 6 o'clock news - how is your proposal to be accomplished? I await with intereste what will probably be an echoing silence...



Mary (Toronto)
said

Well, I think the pope and all catholic members should be bring to court and take jail time for creating the Christianity in the first place. Why still call the pope "holy" after all the atrocities they brought to our world.Do you have an idea how many people this Christianity killed from Israel to the rest of the world? ih holy mean murderer, sure... still Roman catholic carry the cross in their neck... Romans crucified Jesus while they were in power in Israel... that purely ridiculous. Oh, what is more ridiculous is their communion ceremony,they drink the blood and eat the flesh of Jesus. come on now! how blind are we?


BobSchwiderski
said

If Benedict had walked across Canada with a millstone around his neck I would believe his sorrow.


Tim
said

It's ironic that our culture so often thinks that financial remuneration will somehow compensate for immoral action. It's a ludicrous concept.

The church was a player in the atrocities of the residential school system. So was the Canadian government. The church's abuse was physical. The government's abuse was cultural. We both needed to apologize.

The government paid back money. That monetary remuneration has, by in large, had little positive impact. Life fighting for peace, or screwing for virginity, money does not buy reconciliation.

We all need to somehow move forward as recognized cultural partners in the founding and design of this country. Equal partners in dignity, respect and affection would now go a long way. Money won't.


CYL
said

Apologies..., that's it !!!
This act has scarred a lot of human beings for the rest of their lives. Apologies are not enough. No matter how old these abusers are now, what is the punishment?
Punishment to fit the crime, a slap on the wrist and move them around out of sight won't cut it. Publish their names and throw them in prison. Let the world see their faces. We want to teach them a lesson, just like the 'church' wanted to teach these children a lesson.
Apology ! pleeeease....


P. Fountaine Ontario - I was a victim
said

Some claims of abuse were exaggerated to get more money. The priests could not have performed as many times as alleged, but there was real abuse that I myself experienced and I still don't like people to stand beind me and hate to be on my knees. The separation from the moms hurt most of the kids. I have forgiven hopefully you can too.


Michael
said

I would appreciate it if you would make the following distinction VERY clear.

The Pope only represents Roman Catholicism.

The Pope does NOT represent Christianity nor the many millions of disciples who follow Christ's teachings as taught in the scriptures.

For too long the media has mistaken the Pope as the spokesman for Christianity - he isn't.

The Pope only speaks for the Roman church and represents Roman Catholicism. He does not speak for followers of Christ.

There is a significant and substantial distinction between being a follower of Rome and a follower of Christ.

Thank you.




lori
said

Might as well add this apology to the list of others from the Vatican; crusades, the massacre of French Protestants, the trial of Galileo, anti-semitism, sins committed against Jews, heretics, women, Gypsies and and so on...


Karen in Calgary
said

Wow! A whole apology? The Pope must have read up on the Canadian justice system before admitting to the Church's role. Any place else and he'd have to mortgage the Vatican to pay for their crimes.


Jackie
said

I find it amusing that now that congregational enrollment of the Catholic Church are down that they choose this this moment to apologize. How daft do they think people really are? *roll eyes*

It does not bring back lost traditions or family/clan/tribal ties.


Domino
said

Isn't it funny that the holy books of all religions contain the the most profound knowledge yet the officials of all religions are easily corrupted by power and self-righteousness if not separated from the state. At least the Pope apologized. Too little and too late, perhaps, but an acknowledgement of wrong doing. I cry at the thought of what those children went through, what their parents went through. The Catholic Church was not the only religion involved in this atrocity. All religions have a lot of explaining to do. Blaming it on a culture of a different time does not excuse it. It would happen afain today, given the opportunity.


Alan
said

After what Pope have said in Africa recently regarding the condoms and AIDS I stopped paying attention to what he says or does. I liked the previous Pope, not I'm religious or something.


YA from Toronto ON
said

Why now? The Church has knowingly stayed quite for decades and all of a sudden, wow…

No words others there got to be a catch. Say what you will but I don’t believe even if I personally heard these words uttered by the Pope himself. The abuse was decades ago and continues even today and now the apology comes for what was done decades ago. How many of the abused children have died since it occurred. It bit too late and bit too odd.

Do not believe anything that comes from Rome. Trust me, you’d be better off.


Steve in Fredericton
said

Who exactly does the Pope think he is apologizing to our native citizens! Perhaps he ought to stick to comforting the sick and sucking money out of the congregation to support an antiquaited, corrupt institution based on lies and denials.




Disgusted
said

I talked with a survivor of a residential school just the other day. I'm 39 and had no idea what he had been through. Imagine being taken away at 11 to a school run by mean nuns who spanked you almost every day. Then imagine the disgusting old nun sucking your penis and penetrating you while she spanked you she really was that sick... to an 11 yr old boy. Can you imagine how that messed him up for LIFE. His trust in authority, his fractured family, his sex life? THE POPE BETTER PAY $$ I am so shocked this happened in Canada and NOT THAT LONG AGO. When this guy told me his story I was horrified. Can you believe this actually happened to people in our country? Your children get taken away and returned completely messed up.


Bernice
said

All of the apologies in the world can't cahnge what happened. Why aren't those responsible for the abuse being punished? Why are priests that abuse children not punished? Instead they show up a couple of towns away. I'm afraid that the pope has nothing but empty words to offer and that the church will continue with the corrupt method of hiding the pedophile in another unsuspecting parish.


John D. BC
said

Whether First Nations like it or not the residential schools were doing exactly what they were supposed to: bring the North American natives into the 20th Century. The fact is, even years ago the First Nations "woodsy" way of life was essentially over and the only way it can be sustained is by the Federal Government continuously pumping hundreds of millions of dollars into the reservations to maintain that "vacation" lifestyle. In order for North American Natives to become productive individuals for themselves and for the country they have to adopt the white man's (if you will) way of life: a good academic education and a disciplined work ethic. The residential schools tried to do just that. Unfortunately, to accomplish this they were forced to use strong, sometimes very strong, discipline. I venture that almost nothing they did should rightfully be called abuse. The fact is, many 'white kids' had to have, or should have, this same disciple applied to them, too. To call this use of strong discipline abuse is a great injustice to both the residential schools and to the First Nations. Also, discipline in schools today is vastly different from what it was in the past, even when I was in school in the '40's and '50's. To judge those church organizations involved in the residential schools by todays standards is dead wrong. The Pope, or the head of any other church involved in the residential schools, has absolutely nothing to apologize for, certainly not pay compensation for.


miigonasens
said

People who are asking why the Pope is apologizing its because he is the Pope. The Pope is the Roman Catholic Church 100 years ago or today, he is its figurehead and God's Representative...lol...its a Catholic thing.


Fool me once shame on you .....
said

"You will know them by their fruit"

The Pharisees throughout the centuries defined themselves by similar actions as religious hypocrites. Their leaders project a false sense of humility while surrounded in grand splendor and untold riches. That isn't the way of Christ...it is man's way and their fruit defines them.





Joe Hayes
said

Concentrating on the past only makes the past come up even stronger than it was....I will admit I myself am ashamed that we a country even allowed residential schools to existed att all, but if we continue to bring these horrors up it will only makes those who suffered from it remember the things that were done to them.....we should forgive and forget so that we can continue. But in the end this only my opinion on the subject.


MuskyBuck
said

Outstanding!

At the rate of official apologies made during the past 20 years...

...it should take approximately 200 more years for the Catholic religion to fess up and apologize for every act of inhumanity against the world they've been responsible for since their first days of power.

Now if we can just get the Christian religion and the Muslim religion to do the same, then perhaps we have a real chance of evolving into intelligent, humane caring individuals without greed, contempt and hatred for each other.

The spirit is real, it shakes it's head at everyone in church as misguided evil little children.


canuck174, tronta
said

the effects of the abuse by the church cannot be stop, corrected or made better. An apology does nothing and money will do less. History is set and cannot be undone. The natives need to move on but it will take many many years to put the history behind them and maybe it will never happen. The actions effect many subsequent generations and will for some time to come.


nicole ann howard
said

All in, All, All of the apologies are better then nothing said at all. However, it would be nice to move forward with the many lives that have been affected.


How this happened....the root cause
said

EXPOSING NICOLAITANISM:

Two Greek root words are brought together to form "nicolaitan" : NICO and LAOS. "Nico" means to conquer or bind. "Laos" means "the common people." "Lait" (as in the central section of NICO - "LAIT" -AN) is a form of "laos." The modern term "laity", was for formed by simply adding a "y."

Now, for there to be a laity there must be a clergy. The "clergy" is the elite ruling class, as contrasted with the "laity" which is the common class. Hence, we now understand that the thing Jesus Christ hates and detests is the spirit of clergy/laity (i.e., class society with one ruling over another). Are you beginning to see a patten emerging?

Nicolaitanism is a widespread gigantic system of error and deception perpetrated upon the people of God by those claiming to represent God. Actually, Nicolaitanism was devised by the church/state system of this world as a replacement for the true Ekklesia.

As a result of this deception we get all these other issues like the native school abuses by those who are misrepresenting Christianity.

Some clarity is needed to see what really was going on and why and how we got here today.






B
said

I don't understand how everyone thinks an apology and a truck load of money is going to solve anything. Just giving money away to pay these people off is NOT the answer. Everyone's views and mindsets need to change before healing can truely take place. Many socila problems have come about because of the hisory of the residential schools with First Nations and throwing money at them is not the answer. As for the Pope and the church, I don't understand why anyone bothers


Twocentsworth
said

John D. BC wrote:
Whether First Nations like it or not the residential schools were doing exactly what they were supposed to: bring the North American natives into the 20th Century.
-----------------------------

Wow...what a way to welcome people, and what a price to pay to get a ticket to; the 20th century. Is that what the average Canadian was experiencing back then? No wonder First Nations peoples have never wanted to assimilate.


Dave De Re' - Richmond B. C.
said

It is very nice to see that the Vatican is trying to make amends by apologizing for the "physical and sexual abuse and "deplorable" conduct at Catholic church-run Canadian residential schools". It is also very important that these groups of people have travelled to Rome to meet face to face with the Pope. Did the Vatican pay for their flights and expenses for this, or did they in turn have to secum to this as well? The Vatican is one of the richest kingdoms in the world. This is one part of the story that didn't get reported on. Maybe the Pope should make a trip here to meet face to face with the abused. It might mean more!


Jaye La Vallee
said

Apology is just the beginning for more people than we can fathom. Apologies are worth only as much as the will and abilty to acquire or develop the FULL capacity to relevantly and functionally resolve the affects of the generational social destruction - the severe damage done. The biggest hurdle for all of us... is to become willing to admit to how each of us has been directly affected by the "RESULTS" of the horrendous beliefs and values that have been embedded in many people today. Not just the "Indian/savages". It must include all peoples, where the policy of viewing us as "Less-human", affects many still today. It is like following such a "omnipotent" force or exalted leader with policies, that and who, told us all a huge-big, dirty lie... Now, we live it today in various disasterous ways. Each individual tribe, each individual "native person" must be heard, as to the affects that this "policy" has had on each of us... also those people, who have lived with the lateral damage from our severe disturbance to living healthy and well.
I admire and am grateful for all comments here. Even those who say we are "poor victims" and "only" looking for monetary restitution... We all need to recognize the wide-spread affects of what the original policy of the Vatican for how and why this "holocaust" was possible in the first place. We will heal one by one and hopefully, there will be a healing of victimhood for all tribes, of all colors, all races. Keep writing and expressing your truth and then we can resolve all the effects...


BANANA
said

AND THIS COMES AS A SURPRISE TO ALL OF YOU? THE CATHOLIC CHURCH HAS BEEN SEXUALLY ABUSING CHILDREN FOR CENTURIES. THERE IS NO APPOLOGY THAT CAN EVER MAKE THIS KIND OF THING RIGHT!

JUSTICE WILL PREVAIL THOUGH, WHEN ALL THE ABUSIVE PRIESTS MEET IN HELL!


Travis
said

I hate this type of story and the comments they get.

First I can’t stand reading about children in appalling situations

Second I can’t stand when an apology is trivialized
Third those who weren’t there are always the one wanting more money!

And Fourth anytime you talk religion all sensibility goes right out the window.

“We need something to believe in, and why believe in ourselves when we can make up a being far better then we could ever hope to become”
Me just now



Wally from Montreal
said

I'm Catholic i forgive, the Lord Jesus died for our sins, most of the victims and abusers have long ago made their way tho heaven or hell....forget about it move on it's history.....as for compensation...$$$$ nada you'll be dead before you see a cent.....with all due respect to anybody still alive.


Ann
said

The pope clearly has no clue about what really happened in Canada long ago. The real aboriginal people should not have gone to some religious figure that has nothing to do with what really happened in Canada at that point in time. Unless they are looking for money.


Joshua
said

Most natives didn't go to residential schools, not all the students were native, many employees at the schools were native themselves and most natives were not abused. Abuse happened in all schools back then. Many natives were able to get a good education and learned life skills. Some schools did allow the native languages to be used and the missionaries were the ones who wrote down these languages and gave them a written form. Residential schools were not always bad.


H to O
said

To: P. Fountaine Ontario - I was a victim

Your post was the best one of the bunch. I am sorry you had to endure that trauma and applaud you for your strength to forgive. Your ability to do so is what makes this country a better place. I hope more people that have suffered (not just from the above story) can learn by your example. Thank you for sharing.




Karen in Calgary
said

To John D. BC:

Apparently you know better than the Pope so we'll all alert him that he can take back his apology and you can crawl back under your rock now. (roll eyes)


MItch Shemley
said

Re Pope apologizes for abuse at native schools

Why is it the canadian tax payer is once again on the hook and has to pay for what the catholic church admitted to!!!!
This is totally unexceptable.

The catholic church should be held accountable for this financially.




SarahTX2
said

Oh, for Pete’s sake, this is no way of turning a page. At best, it’s adding insult to injury. At worst, it’s refusing responsibility for capital crimes. These children were kidnapped, some were killed. It’s demeaning to even refer to these crimes simply as “abuse.” The Pope could have gone up to Canada when he was in New York City to give a big fake apology that might have sounded just slightly less hollow. But sitting in his golden palace and having some spokesman say he’s sorry, well, that’s pathetic. Catholics often forget, for their own crimes, that along with penance and forgiveness goes restitution.

I don’t get it. Why do the Canadian taxpayers have to pay for not only all the legal proceedings, but the settlements as well? Wouldn’t you at least split the settlement in half, have the Catholic Church pay one-half and have the taxpayers split the other half with the other religious groups involved? Just a thought.



Bess
said

Glad to hear that the Church has finally had the Pope apologize, however, I still feel cold at the thought of what those young men and women suffered.

I truly hope that they have been able to move on and find peace in their lives, I'm sure it can't be easy.


Denise
said

I believe the church should still provide financial restitution for the abuse. After all, other companies are held responsible for providing restitution for victims of office place abuse. Why should the church be exempt? If anything they should be held to a higher level of responsibility. The criminal priests should have been charged and faced with prison time, just like any other offender - oh wait - I just realized that we don't punish our criminals anymore. Our injustice system pities the criminals, commiserates with them on their nasty deprived childhoods, ignores those "mean 'ol victims who have created even more inconvenience for those sad misunderstood criminals, provide free housing/counselling for the criminals and then dumps them back onto an unsuspecting public. Did the Church as least provide counselling for those poor, misunderstood criminal priests? If not, I guess they haven't done as much as the Canadian "injustice" legal system.


L
said

One of my relatives made a claim as a residential school child, but until there was money to be had, no one ever mentioned residential schools and she never said she went to one. I'm not saying that everyone did this, but know all the facts and the abuse being perpetrated now by some people just to get at the money.

I am appalled by all of the negative posts about Christianity. In case people forget, we have freedom of religion in this country under the Charter and as such we can all practice our religion of choice. For many this is Christianity and that right should be respected. As well, not every priest is a child molester, and not every person who worked at a residential school perpetrated this abuse.

And by the way, I'm not Catholic, but I do know enough Catholics to know that not all agree with the Pope either. Painting an entire group with one brush is just as bad whether it is based on colour, culture, ethinicity or religion, it is just as disgusting. I do wonder that if these comments were being made about Islam or Judiasm if these same comments would be tolerated. This abuse was caused by individuals, not Christianity as a whole.


J.J.F.
said

Most of you people are quite ignorant.

You critize the Pope for apologizing, and at the same would critize him for not apologizing.

Many claim the Catholic Church to be sitting on billions. Outrageous. That money is in assets, as in churches and the land world-wide that those churches sit on. It is not liquid. Get a clue.

The claims about Catholics being involved with the Nazi's in WWII is deplorable, and sickening. Over a million Catholics (mostly Poles) died because of Hilter, and the Nazi's in WWII. Anybody who has a functioning brain, or has ever read a book should be offended by that claim.

This Catholic hate mongering going on in this thread is disapointing, and evidence that the self-righteous posters who make the comments are intolerant bigots.


Ed
said

Attn G:
Please review this story at Montreal Gazette:

"More than 150,000 aboriginal children were forced into residential schools, which started up in the late 1800s and were made compulsory in the 1920s. The schools were run by the churches on behalf of the federal government in an attempt to assimilate native children into mainstream Canadian culture."

So, if this report is accurate, I have no reason to believe otherwise - the Church ran the schools AT THE REQUEST OF THE CANADIAN GOVERNMENT, therefore that explains why Canada is making financial reparations and not the Church.

Has the Native groups apologized and paid compensation for their misdeeds in the past i.e.: the torture and murder of Jean de Brébeuf, Gabriel Lalemant, Antoine Daniel, Charles Garnier, Noël Chabanel, Isaac Jogues,
René Goupil & Jean de Lalande
to name but a few.

I haven’t heard any Native leader apologize yet for these; perhaps you require a little perspective before making an uneducated opinion and casting your comments that are obviously designed to be destructive.



Mike W in London
said

Considering that the Pope was actively engaged in the suppression of reports of child abuse by the church, this apology means absolutely nothing. If you're curious about his role, you can start by searching for the "Ratzinger letter" on Google and Wikipedia.
The Catholic church deserves neither recognition, nor tax exemption in Canada. It is a criminal organization that actively conspired at all levels to enable the molestation of children. Do not support this organization.



Ojibwa Sherry
said

Thank you Pope Benedict, I accept your apology.


Judy Anne
said

It is nice to FINALLY hear an APOLOGY from the Catholic Church for the offences of those involved. I understand that the Church will not likely provide compensation, they should consider paying back some of the money the canadian gov't has spent to compensate their faults. This can be transfers to every First Nation Community to build on its resources. Every First Nation community deserves to have the resources and social programs to help one another. I pray for everyone involved, no matter if there are red, white, yellow or black. holy or unholy, religous or not, There is only one God and we should trust inthe outcome.



Let the truth speak !
said

No longer are people kept in the dark by the 'religious' clergy lording it over the people. The majority of them don't even know Christ in absolute fact. They just know about Him like you know about Obama but don't know Him personally.

The Roman institutional church is exercising damage control in trying to cope with the carnal sins of their clergy whose 'lusts of the flesh' seems to be a a perennial embarrassment. It wouldn't be an issue were it not for their 'religious' yet unbiblical practice of celibacy.

People need to understand that many comments aren't Catholic bashing but truthful expositions of how the Roman religion has deceived their own and abused them. They are not exempt from justified criticism.

Truth is not arrived at by a committee decision and needs no defender. It stands on its own merits.




History flawed in Canada
said

Laureen
I just have one thing to say.. THAT HISTORY WAS WRITTEN BY THE WHITE PEOPLE. I bet if Hitler had won the 2nd world war... your history would be as distorted as the so called history we have here in Canada.


No to the Catholic Church. No to pedophile Priest
said

John D. BC
What are you saying... That the 20 century should allow Pedophile priests to be in charge of your children in the Boys Choir at your church. Maybe your children will be asked to stay late with the Pedophile priest... I am guessing you will not like that if it's in your back yard. Think before you comment please


Death to Religion, Welcome Christ into you heart
said

Jack Van Impe says it best. Any refrence to Religion in the Bible is in violence, hatred and ungodlyness. The Catholic Church is no exception. Read your bibles, Congregate under the Blanket of Christ... shed your religions stop giving the churches money. There are very worthy charities that need your money more.

Death to Religion.


Why monetary compensation works.
said

The money may not help put things back the way they are supposed to be, but it's kind of like a revenge. You Pay me for doing an atrocity to me and if you pay enough you will never ever do it again. It makes the Native person feel a little better, doesn't heal but it starts. And it makes the Perp. think before doing it again.


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