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Date: Fri. Apr. 3 2009 8:04 PM ET

Canada is poised to emerge from the recession as the economy accelerates, Finance Minister Jim Flaherty said in a speech Friday to the U.K.-Canada Chamber of Commerce.

Flaherty, who was on the sidelines of the G20 summit in London, assured a business audience that Canada will be able to withstand the economic crisis.

He quoted an unnamed colleague's description of the economy, saying, "In November, the ball rolled off the table and it hasn't hit the floor yet."

The most accurate description he has heard, Flaherty said, is that "we are closer to the bottom and I think that is fairly descriptive of how I see things."

The government is taking necessary steps, he assured the audience, so that Canada will accelerate out of the recession.

"So I say to you with a degree of confidence that I think is warranted that the Canadian situation is strong, that our fiscal and monetary situations are both strong and that we're taking the necessary steps to move out of this recession."

Canadians have survived through other hardships, Flaherty said, including the recession in the 1990s.

"Most people in Canada came from other places, including the United Kingdom. Most of them came on boats. Most of them came with nothing. Many of whom died because of disease while they were travelling to Canada," he said.

"Relatively speaking this is a mild economic recession. We will come out of this strongly. We are able to withstand this," Flaherty added.

After his speech, Flaherty told reporters that Canada was in a good position to recover quickly once the economy starts to rebound.

"We do not have high interest rates in this recession, we do not have the housing bubble in Canada unlike some other countries where people are losing their houses," Flaherty said.

He did say Canada's employment numbers were challenging and that more "bad" figures will come.

"But we entered this recession later than most countries and we will exit it with strength," Flaherty said.

Statistics Canada will release Canada's job numbers for March next week.

U.S. figures released Friday show employers south of the border slashed 663,000 jobs in March, sending the jobless rate to 8.5 per cent.

Meanwhile, Flaherty said he did not see any urgent need to revise his January estimate that the economy would shrink by 0.8 per cent in 2009. The OECD is predicting a 3.0 per cent decline.

"I think we're certainly looking at negative growth. I don't think Canadians are that concerned if it's '2-point-this' or '1-point-that'," he said.

"What they are concerned about is the government taking the necessary steps to ease the impact on those who will lose their jobs."

Flaherty is in London for the G20 summit, which wrapped up on Thursday.

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GG
said

Canada's economy is tied tightly to the US...we cannot recover until their economy rebounds...we will continue to shed jobs in big numbers until our neighbours to the south...pull out of the recession and start buying products that we supply or produce in Canada. Yes our banking institutions are strong..so we dont have to re-capitalize our financial services industry like others, but jobs are a direct tie -in to productivity and exports to the US primarily. As Canadians we need income to live and spend. As these job losses continue to occur, our economy will sink even further. But Jim..you know this..this is just your spin and duck routine.


Rick in NB
said

Flaherty has to keep the positive image going. If we feel safe in spending than it will boost the economy.

Remember economy comes before saving ;)


Rick
said

Come on Liberals - I'm waiting for you to tell the rest of us how dumb Flaherty is and that the economy is actually much worst than he says. I want to hear your doom and gloom senerios. I'm waiting - please don't disappoint me.

Liberals are so predictable.


Scene
said

Ummmmm it's going to be a mild recession, it already is a full blown recession. Flarethy is as usual not saying the whole story. Don't get me wrong I am not one of those depression beleivers, however I think it's safe to say were in bad times right now, and were not going to recover as quickly as these politicans say we will. Still I agree with the fact Canada will come out of this strong. One way to determine the future of the economy is to track the markets, and it's starting to creep up a bit latly! Were about a year away from seeing any signs of good times again!


guppies
said

It a kind of scary,everytime he say something.
Do you guy remember what he say 6 months ago. "There is no recession here" and a few yrs back Halloween about the "Income Trust" issue and send the stocks to hell in one day.
Is easy to for him to say.
Next time he will say "Opps"



Will V
said

I'm not saying he's wrong, I'd just be a little more careful not to burn my wings. It's not over til it's over.


MHR Crazy sense
said

Re to Rick in NB:

You think Economy should comes before saving?

More than half of Canada are in debt due to various reasons......

You think that good economy will treats people with debt good? NO... They increased interest and kept gouging $$$...

We are just mindless drones to economy... So I say... damn economy! I will live my life to fullest and debt-free.

Not saying that I should save my money but we all should stop spending... It got us in this mess because nobody can't afford houses anymore....

Therefore sub-prime loan being created to address this mess...BUT it just add fuel to fire...

Hose down your debt then you can start saving and spend which is "Economy and Saving comes before whatever it is"

LOL I hope I have rigth sense on this subject.


Hunter Mars
said

Oh,thank God !
Flaerty sees this as a mild recession .
I was worried there for half a jiff .
This should reassure all our brothers and sisters tossed onto the scrap geap of unemployment.
I'd hate to see what he sees as a full blown depression .
This twit never ceases to amaze me .


Canada Goose Whistler
said

Wow good news for everyone!!!
Weren't the figures for bankruptcies going up in the last report.
I guess the conservatives don't listen to the news!


Rick in NB
said

@ MHR:
If you would have checked my winky face as i signed off, you would have known it was a joke.
There is another poster who loves to signoff with the adage. Remember saving comes before economy. Just thought i'd beat him to the punch.
It was intended for him, but you bit sooner than he did.


Red X
said

That means we will have a longer than average recession with unemployment rising well into 2010. The U$ has entered into month 17, the longest since the 30s.

The Bank of Canada should revise their rosy estimates. Harper boasts about Canada being the best of the G20.

While the World was swooning over Obama. It is the People's Republic of China that is planning growth of 8% for this year and 8% for 2010...


Words of Wisdom
said

Thanks for the wise words Mr. Flaherty. I was waiting for an announcement like this so that I could quit my job, borrow some money and spend it foolishly. Now I feel much more confident in doing that because Mr. Flaherty has said the trouble is going to be over.
I know I can count on the Minister of Finance and the government to guide my financial management. What more could a voter ask for?
I can't believe some people think he is making this stuff up as he goes.


Brian in Whitby
said

To Mr Flaherty:
People are losing their houses! People are losing their jobs! Interest rate will sky-rocket at the first sings of growth because they are artificially low. The US dollar will tank, because they are over flowing their system with money, thus making our exports more expensive. Please get out of your bubble, and tell it like it is!


Ms. J
said

I don't think anyone in Canada, including Flaherty, actually thinks what's going on is 'mild'.

However, the alternative is a self-fulfilling prophecy. It's mass psychology - all it takes is for one person in a position of authority like Flaherty or the Bank of Canada to scare us, and then we WOULD have a full-blown problem.

Government obviously agrees that the economy is in a bad state, otherwise they wouldn't have promised $1B in the budget for communities affected by the down-turn, never mind all the money on top for infrastructure and various industries. But for them to publicly announce we're really in trouble would only serve to worsen the situation.


Ken
said

Canada may withstand the recession but how many can take not having a job, or a home?


PepperPot
said

I understand where you are coming from Flaherty. Your audience was in Britain and my contacts there say they are in dire straits. They would give anything to be in Canada' position and some are actually thinking of moving some of their investments to Canadian Banks. We need that.


Nick in Gatineau
said

G20 says save for a rainy day.

Harper has spent every penny of it.

We are merging into, sorry, morphing into an era where most of us have no understanding of what anything is, ,or how anything functions anymore. Lazyness ? Refer everything to specialists ?

No-one understands currency weights anymore. IMF and WTO funding are great BUT... Given the restrictions and the diverging procedural integrity of the very premise they seek to emphasize, and excersize, is contradictory to what they want to do. It is a blunt return to the past of flooding the free market with commidity or currency to shore up one's currency in the hopes that it is not a confidence run.

We now know that when a commodity crashes, it brings down the entire market. Whatever that commodity actually is. To some, its beer sales during a sports strike, to others its Oil during a war.

We now know that the very nature of an asset-based account is no longer applicable to today's cross-pollenized asset-based products. You can change our systems - that is financial transaction regulations - but it will change nothing. We have allowed the products themselves to dictate where the system was headed. The laws and Generally Accepted Practices' box outlines have been breached - permanently.

Only thing is, no-one knew where they actually were.

It is not the system that is in trouble. It is the very foundation of the of an organization that is in trouble. The very nature of each account has to be re-examined. The people who do that, didn't even noticed what was happening.

The box ain't that square anymore is it ?


Roger T
said

The real question is "Will the people of today's society stand and tolerate high levels of unemployment and the despair their families are facing from the irresponsible governance from our leaders". All Canadians INCLUDING the laidoff and unemployed have paid their tax dues and they need financial support immediately to feed their families and pay off debt loads.

While the country as a whole with stands the recession according to Jimbo, that doesn't mean ALL Canadians are better off. A society without personal prosperity through hard and uncertain times can only go for so long before mass protest and high crime rates sweep our streets......look out Greece!


John in Vancouver
said

I did not know we had a choice in this matter?


Larry
said

I'm so glad to hear our recession is going to be mild... what wonderful news!!
Now what about the people like myself that have been out of work for over 5 months and are still awaiting a ruling of our EI applications?? I aggree with an earlier comment, how many can Canada handle that are homeless, out of work and without means.. how long until we get back to work?
Our government needs to wake up and see reality amd stop denying it.


Brad
said

Tell that to the guy who has been layed off without EI and see what he has to say about it! Oh wait they don't care about people like that i guess!!!!!!


Everything's fine
said

During the English language election debate , Harper told us that everything was fine and that stimulus spending would be panicking. Flaherty was saying the same thing.

I guess a mild recession is the same as a technical recession. This is what Flaherty told us we were in. I suppose that OECD figures projecting 10.4% unemployment and Statscan reporting 3 consecutive monthly declines in RGDP, with more expected to come is only technically speaking, a recession oh ya and a mild one at that. The million plus who are unemployed are only technically and mildly hurting. When are we going to get rid of these clowns?


Cambob
said

We had almost 18 years of growth. This correction was inevitable.
90% of Canadians are employed. The majority of job losses have occurred in industries which had 'health' issues for the last 5 years.
Automotive, Energy and Forestry: the industries that have seen the biggest employment hit. Why? because we Do not want big gas guzzling cars. We Do want overseas cheap merchandise and we pissed off the Americans with our heavily subsidized lumber products.

So, who is to blame for this temporary recession?
*hint, look in a mirror.


Mike
said

Flaherty, do things really change that fast? Only a week ago bankruptcies were up.
If Canada's economy is so incredibly good, like you tell us, the whole world would be buying into Canada's banks.
Flaherty & Harper are on a different planet than the rest of the world. Canada will never be a strong country with these two clowns at the helm.


Ken - Calgary
said

Isn't this the same Flaherty who vehemntly denied that there even was a recession so that he and his party of buffoons could get re-elected?

Sorry Jimbo... but you have ZERO credibility now, so maybe you should just go back under a rock and stop polluting the media with your economic forecasts, because with the Conservatives, even the little bits of magic are all smoke and mirrors.


Cut the military boondoggle in Afghanistan.
said

Stop wasting tax money.


Buy only what you need and use only cash.
said

That's how to survive the recession.


raj dhaliwal
said

Just a few months ago, Flaherty said there was no recession.


Cindy
said

Good business practice would be to become less dependent on the US by expanding our markets to include others. China and Japan are two good choices. Harper's allegiance to the US is disturbing. There is no enemy more dangerous than one that enters your home as a "good friend"


A Koster - BC
said

Flaherty and Harper are toeing that fine line between forced optimism and intentional deceit.


André in Ontario
said

This is all coming from a joke of a minister & government that was claiming not to long ago that everything was good in Canada. This guy keeps piling the cow pies as he goes along. He can't be trusted & neither can this PM. It really takes a genius to say we'll come out of this. A 2 year can come up with the same prediction. The truth is that we're an exporting country & cannot come out of this till the rest of the world starts buying our commodities & most importantly the US. As for the markets showing some improvements in my opinion it speculators that overinflated the price a year ago on oil that are doing the same today here in Canada. I think the markets are as big of a problem in the world as are the banks. They unnecessarily pushing up the price on goods to line the pockets of the rich. And as our incompetent PM continues to mislead Canadians & continues to sleep at the switch.


Allan (Vancouver)
said

What would the alternative be? To not come out of the recession?!! To cease to exist as a country and become the newest and largest state?!! The questions are when and how well will Canada come out of the recession.


ian
said

I like how the Conservatives wanted to deregulate the national banks and now they take credit for having such strong strict national banks :)


Buba
said

" "Relatively speaking this is a mild economic recession. We will come out of this strongly. We are able to withstand this," Flaherty added."

Mild??? What a crock!!!
This guy is delusional or incompetent or both!


Dayton
said

Sure happy to see the Conservatives with their cup half full attitude surrounding the economic crisis. Could have been a lot worse with the cup half empty pessimism portrayed by the opposition.


TVic
said

This Mr. Flaherty ranks right up there with Marie Antonette with his inappropriate "Canada will be able to withstand the economic crisis" remark. Perhaps he should go meet all the unemployed people and see how much that comment comforts them.
Let Mr. Flaherty eat some cake!!


my take on this
said

Stephen Harper quote from 2009-04-03.
`I'm kept up at night by the state of the global economy and, frankly, by the extent to which I can't do anything about it," Harper said in an interview with Business News Network aired Friday.

This is just what Canada needs a Prime Minister with a defeatist attitude.
Steve, who did you say would make a weak leader?


Shirley
said

I would like Mr. Flaherty to think of Canadians as Canadians not boat people. The majority of Canadians did not come from England. Get your head screwed on right man and get it out of the sand. We are in a recession - if the rest of the world is in a recession, so are we, everything is not rosy as you are trying to make everyone think. We have a lot of people out of work and hurting. Trying to make yourself look good in Europe is not impressing anyone at home.


Doug BC
said

THis recession shares a couple of sililarities to all the recessions I can remember.The first being the spin from the opposition side of the house,and the second being the large number of people running around saying "the sky is falling".
We've been down this road before,and we have seen far worse unemployment numbers of more than one occassion.
I know that's small comfort to someone who's recently lost a job.But downturns are a fact of life for anyone who lives longer than 15 or 20 years.
My parents and grandparents lived through a lot worse than this.And,without the benefit of EI,"free" health care and a host of other amenities available today.
The thing that never ceases to amaze me,is how many people there are who,with the benefit of hindsight,are now experts."Ken - Calgary" may be right about what has happened.Or not.But it's all really irrelevant.If you want to impress someone,try telling us all what's going to happen BEFORE THE FACT,and be prepared to put your money where your mouth is.
In actiual fact,if I had had the nerve myself,and bought some of those stocks when Harper mused publicly about a buying opportunity for those with the tolerance for some risk,I would be UP by 20% right now.
This recession is all about the USA,the UK,and China.When they get their act together,it will start to improve.Not before.
Flaherty is not the only one who thinks Canada is in a better position than most other nations.If all the other nations had our banks and our balance sheets,there would be no recession.


Windsor,the former Auto Capital.
said

A recession is when your neighbour loses his/her job. A depression is when you lose your job!


Linda in Vancouver
said

This will be over when it's over.Whining about a global downturn is hardly helpful.Even IF Canada wanted to,there is not enough money in all of Canada to have even a modest impact on the global economy.
Those who think this is Flaherty of Harpers fault are dilusional,at best.You need to know that ONLY the Conservative party advocates for less debt,not only by government,but by individual citizens.All in all,not a bad idea.
I would suggest to people like Roger T,that there has never been a time when ALL Canadians were prosperous.To become prosperous,you have to WORK.Workers would be a lot more prosperous igf the government didn't tax away half of their earnings so they can be sent to those who won't work.
Hey,more than 90% 0f us are still working.I was watching news on the BBC yesterday,and they gave Canada a glowing review.I guess the left wingers who make a career out of hating conservatives must have missed that broadcast.We probably are better off than most countries.It may be a bit like being the best bobsledder in Jamaica,but it is not a bad thing.
Harper cannot stop this train.But I think he's doing a better than average job of keeping it on the tracks.He will spend if he has to,but not more than he has to,and not before he has to just in case the plans from the USA and China do not work,and he needs to do more.Blowing to much money now would not be wise.
Even in a slow race,ahead is still ahead.I may not like Harper or Flaherty very much,but I'm grateful the Fiberals are not in there trying to deal with this.


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