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Date: Thu. Apr. 2 2009 10:51 PM ET
Afghanistan's top diplomat in Ottawa says lawmakers in Kabul are reviewing legislation that critics say legalizes rape within a marriage.
While the legislation has already become law according to some reports, Ambassador Omar Samad told CTV's Power Play Thursday that Afghan legislators are still studying the document.
"The stage we are at right now is determining exactly what the status is of this law, meaning where in the Afghan (and) judicial pipeline it stands," he said.
Human rights groups and some Afghan politicians have said the 263-page legislative document would make it illegal for Shiite women to refuse sex from their husbands.
Some critics have interpreted the legislation as an attempt to secure political support from Afghanistan's minority Shiite population ahead of presidential elections.
The law has caused international outrage, with some human rights groups comparing it to the restrictive policies pursued by the Taliban government between 1996 and 2001.
"I can fully understand the reaction that Canadians have show and some others around the world have shown," said Samad, adding that Afghanistan is a "young, very fragile democracy."
The comments come after Samad met with leaders in Ottawa, who expressed "deep concern" about the new legislation.
However, there was still confusion surrounding the legislation's legal status in the war-torn country.
Afghan Lawmaker Safia Sidiqi said that she couldn't recall if the law was ever debated in the country's parliament.
"It is impossible in a two-month session for parliament to pass a law more than 200 pages long," she said, referring to the 263-page law.
Sidiqi also said that the law should be recalled for debate in parliament for debate.
This week, Foreign Affairs Minister Lawrence Cannon met with Afghan government ministers at The Hague, and Canadian officials discussed the issue with members of President Hamid Karzai's office in Kabul.
According to media reports, the law states that a woman "is bound to preen for her husband as and when he desires."
In another section, the law says that "as long as the husband is not travelling, he has the right to have sexual intercourse with his wife every fourth night."
More specifically, the rule mandates that "unless the wife is ill or has any kind of illness that intercourse could aggravate, the wife is bound to give a positive response to the sexual desires of her husband."
International response
United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights Navi Pillay said the law represented a step backwards for Afghanistan's women and a "clear indication that the human rights situation in Afghanistan is getting worse, not better.
"For a new law in 2009 to target women in this way is extraordinary, reprehensible and reminiscent of the decrees made by the Taliban regime in Afghanistan in the 1990s," the South African former war crimes judge said in a statement by her office issued in Geneva.
Journalist and activist Sally Armstrong, who has reported extensively on the state of women in Afghanistan, says Karzai is hoping to win the critical swing votes of conservative Shiite men with this law.
"It's a cheap piece of electioneering on the backs of the women and girls of the country, just so he can hang on to power," Armstrong told Canada AM. "This is a man who has spoken about the rights of women ... but he sold them out to get the extremist men vote."
Armstrong points out that even though only a small percentage of Shiite men would welcome the law, all women would be affected.
"They're selling this as just for Shia women, but that's nonsense. The content of Shia law is, it will affect every woman in the country," she said.
Armstrong says if the initial international reaction is any indication, the law will likely collapse.
"The good side of this is the huge outrage around the world. When the Taliban did this, everyone looked the other way -- and everyone knows that silence is akin to consent. This time, people are jumping all over it."
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Anne
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S Embree
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If this is an example of the kind of freedoms that we can expect from Afghanistan Lawmakers then pull our boys back.
Jim in the West
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Either we turn on guns on Karzai's government and replace it with one that ebmbraces the ideals that our soldiers have been fighting for, or we withdraw, leaving them to their own devices.
Canadian
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Karzai never favoured the vote to legalise marital rape and the president of Afghanistan does not have any saying in this law. The parliament chooses that. Karzai cannot change anything in the country.
Miss Sally Armstrong, I suggest you gather information before you point a finger at a person and blaming someone for something that the person has never approved or wishes to approve.
It is the Afghan Parliament that wishes to pass the law, not the Presidential Office of Karzai.
I have watched Karzai say himself on the news in Afghanistan that he is against the New Law on "Marita Rape". People should thank him atleast for keeping Afghans together for the past 8 years or so and not creating any segregations amonth Afghans' different cultural groups.
schpid
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hide
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It took us one hundred years to grant some freedom to women.......but we still don't have it....The Pope still dictates that women can't protect themselves with condoms....can't protect themselves against unwanted pregnancys.......
This is a sad day for all the soldiers fighting in Afghanistan .......
Charles
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BB in AB CA
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Philip
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hmmmm
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Jimmy B - Perth Ont.
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Mike
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THIS IS OUTRAGEOUS.
Pull our troops NOW.
When the government backs this evil ideology it's time to leave as any progress we are likely to make will only be reversed by these people.
Nanook
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Eileen25-also in the West
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To "Jim in the West"...I agree we should reexamine our choice of Karzai, but please, please don't say "leave them to their own devices." Surely you must know what that would mean to half the population of Afghanistan and to the amount of terrorism to the rest of the world.
V. Kulesza Bathurst NB
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I support our troops, and we have accomplished some things through the war. But this is the culture, this is what the people are taught from birth. We cannot change an entire religion. This law is a huge step back for women. Maybe it's time for the men and women fighting against this wall that is their religion to come back home.
Mike Szulikowski
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A Canadian who has been there!
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Anne
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Unacceptable? Uh huh. It will be accepted.
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Ha ha ha.
Don't make me laugh.
It's all about oil.
Pipelinestan can do whatever wants with women so long as US gets control of Central Asia energy resources.
Wende, Calgary
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James in St. John's
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We sent our soldiers to fight to give people freedom but that very hard won freedom has been taken away by the very people we put in power.
Canada must leave Afganistan.
BrianB
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If Karzai didn’t favour the law and didn’t just sign it to get the Shia vote and doesn’t ‘want’ to be president of Afghanistan anymore, why didn’t he just refuse to sign it and let parliament ram it through (as you suggested was a possibility)? You are saying the people want him to be president and that is why he is running again, if that is so, why are most news agencies saying the impending election is expected to be close fought?
Oh, and don’t be so sure you are familiar with Karzais’ opinions on rape (say again where you watched him say he is against the new law?); this is the man who pardoned three men CONVICTED for a brutal gang rape last fall. Maybe someone else needs to do some research before pointing fingers…
Jason on the east coast
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And yes, if god is real, I know I'm going straight to hell, but if that's the price I have pay in order to think for myself, then I pay it gladly as the saying goes.
Chris
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doctor Doo Little
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Today, in some parts of the world women are still declared as possession of men, second or even third class citizen. When I was in Ethiopia, women are not as valuable as a donkey; this has truly sadden God's heart as well as ours.
Perhaps some of the readers do not believe in God nor the Bible but if we ask HIM to show us Who HE is, HE will and the issues between man and woman can be resolved under the loving guidance of God Who created us.
Canadian
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This is NOT a civilized place.
Opimist
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Doug BC
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On the other hand,if NATO puts it's foor down and says absolutely "NO",they will be accussed of "imposing" their values on the people and the government of Afghanistan.
Frankly,this does look like cheap politics,but at the same time,given the history of that part of the world,this obstacle should be no surprise.As I've said before,this kind of change takes quite some time.Even after rights are granted and laws are passed,it takes education,and a generation for average people to live with,and stand up for those new found,individual liberties.
Yes.This law MUST not be allowed to stand.But now is NOT the time to abandon these people.We must keep our faith,and continue to educate as many of the people of Afghanistan as we possibly can.Elections are only a real exercise in democracy if the majority of people take part willingly and freely,are offered real choices,and are educated enough to understand WHAT they are voting for.Not always the same as WHO they are voting for.
Women in Afghanistan have complained that,after the Russians were forced to give up their effort their,the rest of the world abandoned them to the Taliban.I think it would be a mistake for the west to abandon them until we can be certain the "people" have made a free and informed choice with several real options.
Sherry
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Paul Garnett
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Canada sent troops there because US said jump
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Cambob
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The stated goal of the NATO mission in Afghanistan is to route Al~ Queda from its camps and to remove Taliban support of Al~Queda. It is NOT the mission to impose western morality on the elected Afghan government.
I think many of thier laws are vile and disgusting. Unfortunately, the only way to force change is to kill many more Afghans and impose our own form of government there. So if you are demanding a set of rules we are comfortable with, consider the price of your demands.
Syed
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Lost Cause
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Doug, you chould google "RAWA Miriam" and read the interview there with an Afghan woman.
Nathalie of Ontario
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Will this be excuse for US to depose Karzai
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Momofasoldier
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Raven
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Robert from Victoria
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orange
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Once they taste power, politicians are often willing to do things far worse, in the sense that the things they are willing to do, are far from their own belief systems.
The best, or worst, example of that, on the world stage, today, is our prime minister. If you read the Reform platform, that he was involved in writing... even the orginal Conservative platform, you will see how far he has gone in his desperate quest to cling to power.
Allan Eizinas
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The women, children, hearts and minds and school thing was a daydream and is now history. The Americans are now taking over and we will do what they tell us to do.
The Afghan culture is what is was, is and will continue to be.
Do not believe everything that your government tells you.
GG
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Liberty
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Dan from Northern Ont
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Sylvie from Canada
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set a timetable where over the next 6 months we will facilitate the exit of any refugee women and children, then we pack up and leave.
I agree that we shouldn't impose our own values on others, fine, then let those who are oppressed decide if they really want to stay, then let them lie in the bed they made.
Laura Langstaff
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Mike
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Edb (Hamilton)
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The group-huggers who are in favour of being so "inclusive" should maybe ask some women who have been subjugated to this ridicules philosophy how it worked out for them.
All I can say is there's something horribly wrong with any culture where the men are so petrified by the women that idiotic "laws" are passed in the name of religion to keep them chained.
Johnny Canuck
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I find this law as repugnant as anyone, but turning our guns on the Karzai government is absolutely NOT the way to address this. It might be Harper's way, but it's not the Canadian way of promoting democracy.
Carolina from Oak Ridges
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To suggest that the women stand up and fight is misguided - woman get acid thrown on them for looking in the wrong direction, or get burned from a "kitchen fire". What will happen to them if we turn our backs? There will be no hope at all.
I just so proud to be from a culture where the men and women got the right to vote on the same day. Equal rights for every man, woman and child!
MRC in Ontario
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The whole world better stop meddling with each other. It took all of us thousands to hundreds of thousands of years to naturally evolve & civilize (to some specific degree & culture) independently. Now, in the name of "Globalization" & "Multiculturalism", we integrate too much too quickly and meddle in each other's affairs because of convenience & greed...and it will destroy everything that we were, everything that we are, and everything we'll now never be.
Why can't I buy shoes or a television designed & manufactured in my own country? Why? WHY?!...
Lesley-Ann
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PULL OUR TROOPS OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!NOW if we stay there we are supporting Legalized Rape, what next.
Is there no more decency in this world its 2009 for christ sake. Get uot because this will never change, not in our life time. I feel for these women.
Too PC
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Look to the Ontario provincial government who tried to pass Sharia law in Ontario. It was not passed, however as we invite the wrong people into our country they will enter the political stream and will change our laws.
No longer are we able to celebrate Christmas in public or at work and refer to the "Christmas" tree as a "Green" tree.
Therefore, the wave of change is here. Women need to get together and stand up against this change. Women need to get into the political system and resist this change.
Les in Alberta
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KL
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Howard in Brampton
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dan
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I ask you, is the new law proposed in Afghanistan that would legaly allow men to rape thair wives what our brave soldiers have been fighting for?
Im am truly disgusted and outraged at this.If the situation does not change emediately the we sould pull out of that caveman country PERIOD.
Jim
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There is a fine line that covers what countries can tell other countries to do inside of their borders. This crosses the line.
This legislation is nothing short of torture and human rights abuse.
If this is what we are fighting for, pull the troups out.
Carolina from Oak Ridges
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Kevin in Vancouver
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We need to get a handle on our population before your grand children are wearing Burkas!!!
Dave
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Its good to see someone comment on here who actually makes sense.
Pedro
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going on second deployment there
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RRO
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This is not the kind of man Afganistan needs right now. Frankly, it may be wise to support a strong female leader at this point. Some will argue Afganistan is not ready, but I find when people are hesitant about something it is best to through them in and let them adjust.
MuskyBuck
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Owning women like possessions in all arab countries, I find myself fighting feelings of intolerance and hatred.
And as an intelligent, tolerant, patient man I'm at odds with my feelings.
I hate what these quasi-political/religous groups stand for, what they breed within their community.
I hate them even more for making me think the dark feelings of intolerance I have when I consider their place in our world today.
Meagan - London ON
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Afghanistan has oil?! You must know something the rest of us don't!
I find this new law as despicable as everyone else, but your left wing anti-US conspiracy theory accusations just makes you look foolish.
Michel (ottawa)
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The minute we leave, Afghanistan will go back to its prehistoric ways and barbaric laws.
I have supported our troops and the work they've been doing all along, now hearing this, I am now one of the voices saying: bring our troops home, now.
gee
said
Go talk to any multiculturalist. A healthy dose of moral relativism will do you good.
Lorne
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We don't need a reason such as the law that was passed, to pull our troops.
They shouldn't be there in the first place.
Why are we trying to impose democracy on another country?
We are the invaders - the country does not belong to us.
History shows that nothing will change - the mentality will always be the same.
We are fighting a losing cause.
James Litwin
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These people have been given a change for democracy and they have turned their backs to us and what we offer. It is clear they support a government based on religious laws. This makes them a theocracy and and not a democracy.
It is time for the Western world to realize that this is how these people want to live, lets stop expecting them to conform to our expectation. We need to focus on our own country and the continual development of our community, science and education.
By being a leader in Human Rights others will want to follow.
Ontario
said
Just like all before them they need to earn their freedom otherwise it has no meaning.
Sure, if they legitimately threaten us then we can wag our sword at them but otherwise who are we to dictate terms to them?
Harvey, Vernon BC
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It will give anyone an insight into the world of the extremists and how the Quran is interpreted so that man can do what they what they want with women.
This is just another revelation coming to light of how it has always been practiced in those countries.
Jesse 2
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Rick
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Sean
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If no side exists that shares Canada's value system, then there is no point in us being over there.
The law must change, or Canada should pull our troops out of the country.
divinebovine
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Dave in downtown Newington
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Anyone not knowing might even (gasp!)start thinking these countries were beyond any kind of chastisment from us as they have some kind of natural resource we depend on.
Naaah!that's just not possible......is it ?
Danno
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Lee in Calgary
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Why am I torn because I find this law (if it's being fully represented by the press) repugnent but I also wonder if we need to accept the will of their parliment to govern as they see fit.
I guess my take on this will be, if this law is brought in and supported by elected officials they it will be time for us to say congratulations you're now ready to govern and since you've choosen to govern by Sharia law we'll leave you to it as we disagree with it's implementation.
It's hard to teach them about democracy and then demand that they do what we tell them when they inact laws democratically but we also must maintain our values and say clearly, you have every right to do this but we won't support you in anyway if you do and that's our democratic right.
Hannah
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Jay
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Aron in TO
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And this is the result: public stoning of people; public whipping of people; and soon they will feature Public beheading of people.
This is a disgrace. How can you win a war or even install peace when our troops hands are tied.
We need to get in there with at least 50K more troops to take control of that mess and crush any & all opposition.
Sandyo0
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joecommoner
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Reflecting
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Tmac
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Doug in Alberta
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Lorne
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You are absolutely correct. These types of actions are going on in most Middle East countries and to a greater degree.
Yet, nobody has commented on this earlier.
There has been no outrage by the public on those situations.
This is a fact of life in these countries and goes according to the culture.
Western democracy can do nothing about it and will do nothing about it.
Why??? Oil !!!!!!!!!!!!! talks.
STB
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Mary
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That'd learn 'em. Lol.
WTF!
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Teacher
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KMC (Markham, ON)
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There are groups, in Canada, mostly in Ontario, who are now pressing for Sharia Law. They'll likely continue to do so.
In the U.K., recently, the Arch Bishop of Canterbury declared that the U.K. might as well adopt Sharia Law now, because they're going to get it eventually.
He was referring to the enormous numbers of Muslims, moving, legally or illegally, into western Europe, forming a large voting bloc. (six million in France alone).
The same goes for Canada.
Casual observation of the racial make-up of the kindergartens, grade schools and high schools, in Canada,
make it inevitable that, with about 25 years, Canada will be an Asian country.
So, you might as well get used to it. This is Canada's future, thanks to P.E. Trudeau's immigration "reform", although, to give him his due, even Trudeau recognized that he had made a mistake.
Laurie
said
Maybe the Afghan men would like us to leave now except what about the female population?? Now that these so-called "men" have had us kick out their competition, they want to take control in the very same fashion as those they cried to the world about.
Gloria
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George
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Ron in the West
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a soldiers mom
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thats my motto no matter what and I think that now more than ever they need the support of thier fellow Canadians because I am sure that this kind of news is very discouraging to them. Soldiers take heart in whatever happens and continue doing the fantastic job that you all have done so far. You know what they say 2 steps ahead and 1 step back.
tc
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S. Baldock
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Also the Shia law has some other provisions in it that would allow the husband to enlist his family to rape, stone or punish women. I don't trust this law or the law makers. This whole Shia law is an oppressive action towards all women regardless and our troops should be withdrawn. Their heads should be held high and be very proud of what hey have accomplished. As far as this government, its one thing to be diplomatic, its another thing to just make idle threats and state expectations. There needs to be consquences for thoughts and actions that are demeaning for women and an insult to our hard working troops.
AL
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Until yesterday, I supported them being in Afganistan, feeling they were making a difference. NOT anymore -- bring them home and fast.
Obviously this country has no intentions of making life better for their people.
May every Afgani man become a woman tomorrow & live under this law until the end of time!!
Dave in Cornwall
said
Mebbe he could form some kind of coalition?
But in order to really enhance his experience,lets dress him up as a woman before he goes !
Interesting read with an actual reference for once
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Concerned Canadian
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Personally, I think our reaction is ultimately based on the fact that we don't as Canadians, have any really clear idea about why we're in Afghanistan, so this law regarding rape is a bit of revelation to those who believed, naively, that we we're there only to do good.
The fact is that our motives have been suspect from the beginning. We began as peacekeepers, in our traditional role. But then the Conservatives turned us into warriors, with the moral ambiguity that goes along with that situation.
If we are there to help, then we ought not to be killing civilians carelessly, as we may have done a month ago with our artillery. If we are there to help, then we ought not be to making it easier for American companies to build a pipeline. Or to relieve the pressure of their absurd war in Iraq.
And if we are there to help, then what do we do when the government we support passes laws that contradict our Canadian values?
If we are willing to face the truth, it is that many people support the war unthinkingly, and now they've had a wake-up call. Some will continue with the "My country right or wrong, support our troops" mindset. But that's getting increasingly difficult to maintain in the face of the realities on the ground. Mr. Harper needs to respond to this in a rational manner, not just tell us once again the fairy-tale of how Canadians are doing good.
Why should young Canadian men and women die to protect Taliban values and culture?
KC
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Ummmm...not when they are protecting the "right" to rape women.
Athena
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alainmci
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Not Afghanistan oil; Caspian oil through Afghan
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The Caspian Sea is a California-size body of salt water -- the world's largest landlocked body of water -- that may sit on as much as 200 billion barrels of oil, which would be 16 percent of the Earth's potential oil reserves. Even at today's low prices, that could add up to $3 trillion in oil. (compared to Saudi's 250 billion barrels of oil and America's own 22 billion barrels - New York Times.)
The pipeline was to run from Turkmenistan via Afghanistan to the Port of Karachi. However the Taleban refused. Until now America has not been successful in persuading the Taleban to change its mind.
It now seems as though America is using the pretext of WTC attacks in order to fulfill its economic aims
R Clark
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It will probably take 2 days to change their law.
Rick in SK
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Our troops aren't there to protect women's rights as much as we are there to slap around the people who gave support to Bin Laden and his cronies.
Joel
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Our troops are in Afghanistan fighting for the freedom and the equality of all of the people there. This type of law is typical of how Afghanistan used to be, and we can change Afghanistan, but it will not happen over night. I'm sure if you asked any soldier who is in Afganistan, or has spent time in Afghanistan, they would not support this law, and they would tell you that Canada needs to stay in Afghanistan to make it a better place.
How is pulling our troops from Afghanistan going to help aid the cause for better human rights there. I support the UN Charter of rights, and I can only hope that a continued presence in Afghanistan will eventually make a difference there. But I am pretty sure if Canada and the rest of NATO were to leave Afghanistan, the country would fall back into the hands of the Taliban and things would get much worse than they are now (in terms of Human Rights).
Jenine
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WOMEN'S RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS!
Canadian troops are in Afghanistan
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It's war for control of resources.
Not for women, not for children, not for schools, not for humanitarian blah blah blah.
It's war to grab control of resources.
So stop your whining about all the cover story nonsense.
Concerned Canadian
said
I support your values- the problem is that when I read comment like "not Afghanistan Oil..." I realize that the Canadian government is playing on my idealism. Can we militarily intervene in every country in the world where human rights are an issue? I don't think we can.
So the problem is, what do we, as Canadians who care about the moral implications of what we are doing, decide to do in a case like this? If we were making real progress in Afghanistan, then perhaps the lives of our fellow Canadians are worth the sacrifice.
But how do we rationalize supporting a government that violates our most basic values? And how do we feel about the economic implications of the Afghan war? If the real reason we're there is economic, and if we are not making any progress on the human rights side, then what is the reason to be there? Please answer!
Margaret
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Dixie from Alberta
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Paul in Brant
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It is obvious that the Canadian, British, and American governments will be working all Diplomacy channels to get this ironed out. Bottom line is this... Muslim countries have a completely different worldview than Western Civilization. We will work together to have all people within this country fall under some scope of fair treatment, but it will take a bit of time and strong-arming.
It will get done though
Jenn
said
Instead of focusing on saving every other country, we should focus on what's going on at home. Parent's abusing their children, our irradical justice system, and unemployment rates. And start making people accountable for the BS they do, whether it’s killing someone, fraud, or asking for a bail out because their CEO’s are greedy
john
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James
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I don't think we should be hyper sensitive about this issue because it is their country.
James
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Kind of like right leaning parties who introduce crime bills that don't solve the problem but puts more people in jail to cater to the"crime and punishment" crowd?
Kind of like right leaning legisltion attempts at banning abortion or teaching about safe sex in an effort to cater to the extreme right wing evangelicals?
Seems like democracy has indeed taken shape in Afghanistan. Nice work America. And other global enablers.
Ken Duff
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Montreal
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Karzai is not suppose to candite himself again, because the situation in afghanistan has gotten worst instead of getting better since 2001.
80% members of parliament are warlords criminals in afghanistan, they do not represent afghan people, because they were not elected by people.
These MP kicked out Malalai Joya from the parliament, because she was speaking out against the crimes that happened in afghanistan by them.
All Afghans knows their crime very well. Until the warlords are in power, there will not be any change in Afghanistan's security or law, as we see now.
This law does Not represent afghan's culture. This represent the law of criminal in the parliament.
Today, afghan women are not able to fight for their rights, because most of them are not educated, and there is no government to support them. The criminals control the government
I deeply feel sorry for them.
I appreciate the concern of Canada about women's right in afghanistan.
Sorry, if I did any mistake in writing , because my English is not good.
Thanks
BarryW
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a soldiers mom
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our soldiers are NOT supporting the rape of women they are trying to make it a better place for the afghan people and in spite of this news they are doing a damn fine job, guess you don't know much about anything the soldiers are over there (risking thier lives) for. So yes SUPPORT OUR TROOPS
Kim in Calgary
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Sebastion
said
Thats funny. We have seen so many changes to how we do things in Canada simply because of the cultures or religious beliefs of those who think life in Canada is better. For example, kids can't dress for Halloween, Merry Christmas is now Happy holidays, our own Canadian anthem can't be sung in schools, hiring practices are geared to hiring immigrants as opposed to Canadians, the punjabi community want a third official language in Canada. Reverse racism is on the rise but the blinders are on and those of us born here have to suffer the consequences and give up our beliefs and customs or else be labeled a racist. Many of my friends are from other countries but they are friends because they are willing to adopt most of the Canadian ways while maintaining and sharing with me some of what makes them who they are. You are right...we shouldn't be there at all but if you believe that we shouldn't go there and instill our beliefs then I think it only fair that they don't come here and change every little thing that they don't like here in Canada.
Ed from BC
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The only reason that anybody (male or female) in the Western world can speak up and protest is because we have freedom through laws of democracy.
Our government must take steps to ensure that the Afghani government complies to basic humanitarian rights or there will be serious sanctions.
Michael (Ottawa)
said
Gee moral relativism is exactly why the west is crumbling socially at a rate that is troubling.
gb
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Julie
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