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Date: Thu. Apr. 2 2009 10:40 PM ET
G20 leaders opened up the coffers of the world's biggest economies to pledge US$1 trillion in emergency aid for struggling countries in a bid to restore global trade, the biggest move to come out of an emergency summit on the economy.
Leaders took turns Thursday in calling the G20 summit in London an immense success, with a consensus on moves to recover from a global recession.
Prime Minister Stephen Harper said leaders have come up with a strong plan to fix the economy, making what he described as an "unprecedented" effort to work together.
"The declaration is very clear that globalization, that open markets, that liberalized trade remain the essential base of our economic system and will be the basis of any recovery and future economic growth," he said Thursday during his closing news conference in London.
U.S. President Barack Obama echoed Harper's praises for the successes of the summit, calling it a "turning point in our pursuit of global economic recovery."
"The steps that have been taken are critical to preventing us sliding into a depression," Obama said.
Obama admitted he didn't get everything he wanted, as leaders failed to form an agreement on more economic stimulus, but highlighted the $1 trillion in aid.
"This is not just charity. These are future markets for all countries and future drivers for economic growth," Obama said.
The G20 leaders also agreed for much more stringent financial regulations, something both French President Nicolas Sarkozy and German Chancellor Angela Merkel were adamant about.
"We now have been able to rally around a message of unity," she told a news conference.
The agreement on financial regulations includes international accounting standings, regulation for debt-rating agencies and hedge funds and a crackdown on tax havens. They weren't many specific details, suggesting it could be some time before the agreement becomes a legal reality.
The summit's host, British Prime Minister Gordon Brown, said in a statement, "This is the day that the world came together to fight back against the global recession, not with words but with a plan for global recovery and for reform and with a clear timetable for its delivery."
Brown announced the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD) would publish a list of tax havens that are non-compliant.
The leaders also agreed on a "global approach" to dealing with impaired or toxic assets, Brown said.
Harper said the G20's response to the financial crisis was faster, stronger and more co-ordinated than ever before and should have a positive effect.
Harper also said Canada is still in a much stronger position than most countries, with what he called the "soundest banking system in the world," strong balance sheets and a good record on inflation.
He acknowledged that the recession is deeper now than it was in November, but said the situation is much more stable than it was then.
Despite not getting the stimulus agreement he wanted, the summit is being hailed a success for Obama, his first step on to the global stage as president.
"I think we did OK," Obama told reporters. "When I came here, it was with the intention of listening and learning, but also providing American leadership. And I think the document that has been produced as well as concrete actions reflect a range of our priorities.
"In life there are no guarantees; in economics there are no guarantees," he added.
Obama used his heavyweight status to mediate a dispute between China and France over tax havens.
He first took Sarkozy aside privately and then Chinese President Hu Jintao, before bringing the men together for a private meeting.
Officials said the move was essential to breaking a stalemate between the two countries.
US$1 trillion in aid
Brown said the money will be available to the world economy through the IMF and other institutions.
"These actions give us confidence that the global economy can return to trend growth even faster then the IMF is now predicting," Brown told reporters in London.
CTV's Ottawa Bureau Chief Robert Fife, reporting from London, said the money is actually in the form of loans -- "mainly to rescue eastern European countries that are struggling with enormous debt problems and their governments could collapse."
The other part of the money is going in the form of trade credits to help the "poorest of the poor countries."
Canada will reportedly contribute US$10 billion to the IMF to help developing countries and will give another $200 million to the IMF as part of an effort to inject liquidity into the trade finance market, sources told The Canadian Press.
An official told CP that Canada's total contribution to the IMF for 2009-10 now totals US$22 billion. However, there is no additional fiscal cost to Canada as the new funds come in the form of a loan and are considered both an asset and a liability, said the official.
Global markets responded favourably to the G20 announcement, with both Toronto's S&P/TSX and New York's Dow Jones industrial averages surging upwards Thursday.
Leaders agreed to hold another summit, but did not name a time or place.
With files from The Canadian Press and The Associated Press
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I applaud the budget, even though Health Care and education may stay unscathed. Sadly this cannot last and I worry to later this year where cuts will become enviable. If anything, this provides the Wildrose Alliance plenty of ammo when an election is called.





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Remarkable
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The one thing that does worry me, is that there will come out of this, a strong, powerful one world bank, that will regulate the world banking and somewhere down the world, force nations into a one world currency.
This meeting is going to be one of many that is going to pave the road for such an institution.
Doug (from BC)
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Greg in the Hammer
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dawn
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Joe from Saskatchewan
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Priorities, folks...
Roger T
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Anyone can stand in front of the camera and have their pictures taken than go back into the room without the bigger players noticing you or what you have to say.
Another ploy to deflect Canadians away from the despair and reality that our economy is still sinking deeper into the hole!
CNN headlines front page on the G20 with photo attached with Harper no where to be seen or perhaps it was crapped or no mentions of Canada.
Susan
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You said it brother! But women have always been set aside, and money always comes first! Thanks for sticking up for us girls though!You're one of the few who do.....
Terri
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Firozali A. Mulla
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Can you imagine what goes through the head of the public who depend on the little income from the salaries? What is more the G20 only so far has reached one agreement that please or may please the public?. That is probably the best news for the power packed seminar. China invites Obama Where does Brown stand in the invitation I wonder.
I agree with you and endorse this with few sentences I have read in some other papers. .
Who is the elephant and who is the ant?
Firstly, I read this sentence and had to think up of what elephant was in the room. No one asked President Barack Obama directly about the elephant in the room on Wednesday. I guess this was the meeting to find out the elephant and the ant. The public showed this to us in demonstrating. But he brought it up anyway, during a joint press conference with British Prime Minister Gordon Brown. A British reporter asked Obama about the proper size of government stimulus spending, and the U.S. President decided to talk about the perilous balance of global trade. We have none now as the USA deals extensively with this trade issue. USA stops buying and boycotts some, the ones who are out de a slow death begging for aids. Here Mr. Obama is very clear about the power USA.
"In some ways, the world has become accustomed to the United States being a voracious consumer market and the engine that drives a lot of economic growth worldwide," Obama said, hinting that this position may not be sustainable. "We're going to have to take into account a whole host of factors that can increase our savings rate and start dealing with our long-term fiscal position as well as our current account deficits."
Now comes the issue of revealing the truth as it ought to be.
Doggedly optimistic in the face of doubts, President Barack Obama and British Prime Minister Gordon Brown predicted Thursday's emergency G-20 economic summit would produce a significant global deal to tackle the deepening worldwide recession. Sarkozy and the German is clear and we see this in the net and TV. The words are harsher then ever before. Sounds like we have the 1930 coming back and staying with us. Read on.
Others weren't so sure.
France warned on Wednesday that neither it nor Germany would agree to "false compromises" that soft-pedal a need for tougher financial regulation to curb abuses that contributed to the spreading chaos. And outside the carefully scripted meetings, protesters smashed bank windows and pelted police with eggs and fruit.
Now we talk of any deals. The British Police and the public take the hammering in their own home grounds and USA states that USA is the biggest partner in trade. Does USA pay for the blood of the deaths on the London streets? I wonder. The above reads as the visit of Obama as the trade only talk and no more. IF ONLY the rest of the world were run like China, the global financial crisis would be over much sooner. The World Bank predicts 6.5% growth. Even Mr Zhou sounded a note of caution. Asked whether China’s economic slowdown had ended he told reporters on March 28th, during a visit to Colombia, that it was “still uncertain”. The answer, he said, depended on whether the global financial crisis had yet “reached bottom”.
I thank you
Firozali A. Mulla
GJ
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Having said that, I've just recently returned from a long stint in the US, and I can tell you in no uncertain terms, that the Canadian economy is in FAR better shape than the US. But contrary to the views that its the Cdn banking system or the government thats holding it together, its the people .
The overall mindset of the Canadian people is one of cautiousness, not despair (as it is south of the border). Although, with continued market deterioration, that could change.
Canada Goose Whistler
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It doesn't matter that Harper missed the photo opt, he has no ideas, no plans for the future, he just repeats what other leaders have said. Did he ever thank the Australian government for the speech he stole & read word for word? Harper is a looser & it's really too bad we don't have a leader that can represent Canada. He has stayed away from Canadian media because he just doesn't have anything to say. Mr Harper you are an embarrassment to Canada please step down.
Mike in Newmarket
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Sherry
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Scene
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Denis
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Fatman
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Greg in the Hammer
Come on fellas give this old man a break. This continuation of Liberal babble on the great debt we Canadians owe Mr. Martin due to his input into the regulating procedures of the Canadian banks is wearing kinda thin. It's becoming a case of "same old meat - same old sausage", i.e. it's old news ground up, packaged and spit out in the same old way and bears no new flavor.
May I also suggest at this point that you remember there were many who went before Mr. Martin to whom we also owe a debt of gratitude in the area of financial regulation. Perhaps even greater than that we owe to Mr. Martin himself. These were those that established the greater part of the financial regulating system over many years preceding the ascent of Mr. Martin's star and I for one find it somewhat disrespectful of their fine efforts when people pile all the credit on Mr. Martin.
Nancy- Obama to the Queen wanst Harper Photo
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Looks like everyone wants their picture taken with Prime Minister Harper.
Even Obama had to go see Harper on his first trip for the photo ops.
Warren in toon town
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Tim - Proof Harper is not Superman
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so much for the Liberal Krytonite plan.
Kelly in Van: Poor Liberal Media
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Connie
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Carol Thor Paris On
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Canada Goose Whistler
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Your head is in the sand with Harper's. Thank you we see the babble of the pro cons here all the time. You had absolutely nothing to add here, except trying to distort the facts.
The liberals on here are just bringing up the facts. Paul Martin had the vision to look to the future. Harper has no vision. Why do you not try to distort the fact that the cons tried to deregulate our banks. The fact is Harper has done absolutely nothing good for Canada ever, because of Harper we were very close to being in worst shape than the USA. Thank the liberal government for baby sitting Harper. Canada's economy would be in much better shape if Harper would have seen the recession when the rest of the world did. Harper is not helping & should step down.
Wendy
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They have nothing to say, their bashing the media again & trying to distort facts.
Harper is such a bumbler, he was the only one to miss the photo opt. Even at the G20 he's wasting the time of the leaders of the world he just showed the world how incompetent he is. Just like Harper is wasting the time & money of Canadian tax payers. The worst Prime Minister Canada has ever had.
Chad
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Mike
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Remember how the media made fun of Dion with his late video & all his bumbles?
Well Harper is making his own bumble in front of the world. Wasting the time of the real world leaders, this is another example of Harper's disrespect for the world & all the people in it.
Instead of bashing the media & twisting facts, why don't you explain to us one good thing Harper has done for Canada!
TR in Ottawa
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The IMF is responsible for the complete collapse of Asia ten years ago and the on going financial ruination of many African nations.
Before the usual unthinking bafoons start yelling about the 'poor Americans', I would ask that you stop yourself. I believe a strong world needs a strong America but, this is a nation that is rotting at it's core from greed, corruption and an elite with an insatiable thirst for power.
The IMF and it's partner in crime, the World Bank are the modern institutions of slavery and oppression.
Cambob
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Russia wants the US to stop upgrading its military at a time when Russia is pushing through numerous upgrades, including 6 new nuclear missle submarines.
China wants a world currency while it buys massive (Trillion+) amounts of American debt.
Everyone else was just there for the free food and photo-op.
Creeker Marion
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Have you ever noticed that we bash the current Prime Minister regardless of which party he represents? I wonder if Iggy becomes the next Prime Minister will we be as unbiased and bash him the same way? Are we ever happy with our ELECTED government?
Selective memories
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In the process of tripping over themselves to pat themselves on the back, they fail to remember that Martin balanced the budgets by downloading billions of expenses to the provinces, raising taxes and illegally dipping into the EI fund to do so.
It doesn't take a financial guru to pass down his mortgage payments to his kids, raise their rent and then steal from his neighbours bank account to balance his books. And then take credit for it to boot.
Lest we forget Adscam, the HR boondoggle, cancelled military contracts, billions wasted on a useless gun registry, Paul Martin registering his ships offshore to avoid paying Canadian taxes, Chretien forcing banks to give his friends loans; I could go on and on but I have work to do; which is why you don't see too many Conservatives commenting. Most of them have jobs.
Bob in Harley
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Where's my bailout?
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Fatman
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To Fatman
OK, you got my attention..
"Your head is in the sand with Harper's."
It's my head and I'll put it where I want to, rest assured it'll never end up in the sand with yours..
"Thank you we see the babble of the pro cons here all the time."
No doubt, as others see your FUD spreading rantings..
"You had absolutely nothing to add here,"
That's your opinion and being a free country you can have that, I feel differently..
"except trying to distort the facts."
OK, now explain yourself, what facts am I distorting and how? The ball is in your court, if you can't substantiate your remarks, which I don't think you can, then 'sit down and shut up or head back to that circus of yours called the Liberal party!'
"The liberals on here are just bringing up the facts."
Facts, ya sure, and the Pope's Jewish! What they do bring up is presented over and over and over again, it's like listening to a broken record..
"Paul Martin had the vision to look to the future."
Agreed, he had to be looking somewhere 'cause he sure wasn't the looking at the present and the voters told him that..
"Harper has no vision."
I don't think that's what his optometrist says..
"Why do you not try to distort the fact that the cons tried to deregulate our banks."
Simple, I don't distort facts, that's the Liberal way, it is true that at one point Mr. Harper considered some deregulation for the Canadian Banks, it didn't happen so where's the problem?
"The fact is Harper has done absolutely nothing good for Canada ever, because of Harper we were very close to being in worst shape than the USA."
Wrong again, he's brought Canada into the world spotlight, why just look at his brilliant move at the G20 photo op today, in an instant he brought more attention to Canada than any other of the attending world leaders brought to their countries, including Obama. This just shows you are talking through your hat. And as for the condition of our economy vs. the USA, well this remark on your part also only shows your ignorance of the actual state of the overall economic situation, Canada is weathering this storm admirably under Mr. Harpers guidance.
"Thank the liberal government for baby sitting Harper."
Some babysitter! Some baby!
"Canada's economy would be in much better shape if Harper would have seen the recession when the rest of the world did."
How could he see it, according to you his head is in the sand with mine..
"Harper is not helping & should step down."
Yea sure....
JYD
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proud to serve
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C-17's so that we can move our own equipement, new tanks for the Dragoons, the list goes on. So what if he missed the first photo op for the G-20 meeting, whenther he was in the bathroom, or getting together a new brief for the summit (which IS what he is there for).
I don't think there is a leader on this planet that saw just how bad this recession was going to be (except MAYBE the former Bush government and they chose to look the other way). It's here, we have to deal with it the best we can and work towards recovering from it; hopefully the world governments will learn from this costly mistake, learn a lot from our banking system (No matter WHO got it this way) and make the appropriate fixes so that something like this won't happen again.
People that bash Canada as a NON world player should give their head a shake and wake up, Canada has been thrust into the world at MACH 3 due to how stable our banking system is and what a good model it is for the rest of the G-20 nations.
And remember, any party in power in Ottawa will always take credit for the previous parties successes, they'll just spin it in a way that makes them look better, that's called politics at it's best, they all want to remain in power.
Flashy
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S in S
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Bee
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All this and a one-world currency and one-world government as its aim. The hearding of the sheep will soon be in full swing.
Larry Reside
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Giving billions of dollars to the IMF is NOT giving money to developing countries. It is giving moneys to an international bank who then MAY give money at its discretion and at its own rates to countries it decides are in its advantage to do so - FOR SHAME....
Mike
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Taxes keep our country from running a deficit. If the books were balanced with EI money I think that's great if it balanced the books. It was government money, managed by a good government. The liberals have a list of many good things they did for Canada.
Please tell me one good thing Harper has done.
IMF to give -- or offer more neo-colonialist loans
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DCR-Toronto
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As for this 500 Billion dollars...it is purely symbolic. When it is finally dispursed across the globe, there won't be enough for each country to truly get help from.
LH
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Canada Goose Whistler
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Like I said you have nothing to add.
Harper put us on the world stage!!!
Yes he did he showed the world his disrespect to the real world leaders how incompetent he really is. He couldn't even make a photo opt! Is that really the only good thing he did for Canada?
Ash
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G20 leaders "Donating" to the IMF ?
It is just like claiming that somebody was dontaing to Madoff on his ponzy scheme !
Jack - AB
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Thank you Harper for eliminating the GST which cost us $15 Billion dollars of revenue per year. So now the rich can spend, spend, spend and pay less taxes.
Thank you Harper for giving tax breaks to oil and gas, banks & other really big business to remove the excess surpluses brought in by the Liberals. Yes, they deserved higher profits like you said.
Thank you Harper for the massive debt $80+ Billion that you'll tack onto our National Debt in the next few years. And for bailing out the banking industry with $25 Billion even though they were supposed to be in a strong position.
Thank you Harper for making Canada into a DEBT SOCIETY just like the USA by following the same principles that George Bush did ( lowering taxes way below normal ). It took Pres. Bush 8 years to DOUBLE USA's national debt & left Obama with huge deficits for years and years to come. Can you do the same too Mr. Harper with Canada?
SUMMARY:
Harper 1) allowed the introduction of long term mortgages which let people push house prices through the roof ( David Dodge, Head of Bank of Canada was opposed to long term mortgages & even wrote CMHC about it back then ), 2) Harper ( like BUSH ) has made Canada into a debt society where we won't see another surplus for many, many years to come ( I believe never under a federal Tory gov't - maybe Tories like paying low taxes and letting others pay off their debt? ), 3) the debt will grow, as we have deficit after deficit, and become the responsibility of future generations to pay off. HARPER HAS COST CANADA MANY, MANY MORE BILLIONS THAN WHAT THE LIBERALS EVER DID. ADD IT ALL UP & SEE FOR YOURSELVES IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE ME!
J from W'burg
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Better yet, the IMF should be spending the money on projects for these countries. However, they would have to walk a fine line between making sure the money is spent effectively (requiring intense supervision) while trying not to make it seem as if they are blackmailing those governments (i.e. "Let us run your country or you don't get any money"). The assets of those countries must also remain owned by that country or it's people. If they have any left, that is.
And to all those people out there who will raise hell about our taxpayer money being given away...stop being so selfish. Those people need the money a million times more than we do.
P.S. Harper is a robot - you heard it here first!
Women for Harper!
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New Borne Liberal - I Am
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And the Canadians who have become unemployed because of the economic down turn get the shaft. Still have to wait 2 weeks, and only receive about 50% of their salary for 40 weeks. In other words, we really appreciate you paying all those years, but when you need help - Do Not Count on US - Sucker!!!
Sorry folks, this government has it's Priorities All Wrong. It should be Think Global - Act Local...
Shame, I used to be a small C Conservative - Now I'm voting for Iggy... Citizen upset with Harper and his agenda...
DCR
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Canadian military cut in 90s because Cold War
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Not because of some lib conspiracy.
Alex (Toronto)
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According to an analyst on CTV NewsNet yesterday, it was actually Chretien, not Martin, who insisted on not deregulating the banks, and that's what kept the banks solvent in the current crisis.
Rational voters need to make a distinction between mistakes that parties don't defend and intentional government policies. For example, Prime Minister Mulroney may have taken bags of cash, not reported the income, to change government policy for the benefit of a private individual. That would be his mistake; it makes interesting television, but has nothing to do with the current government. Can't blame every Conservative for that. So it is really tiresome to read the dittoheads and koolaid-drinkers posting their made-up numbers and non-facts that have nothing to do with anyone currently in Parliament. We need to hold today's politicians accountable for what they actually say and do. Rehashing stale propaganda that has long since been discredited about people who are long gone doesn't contribute anything useful to the discussion and just makes their side look stupid.
They're not GIVING anybody anything
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Countries will run up their debts to provide borrowing for other countries they want to push into indebted positions.
Matt, Nova Scotia
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DCR
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That EI is there to make sure people have it there in the hard times when laid off. NOT for the government to balance the books! Taxation without representation!
Dani - Red Deer
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I'm all for world wide capitalism, but some level of government regulation is required. We are clearly seeing that now.
Roger T
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It doesn't mean that these bankrupt companies will be save or your job is safe.
Fed up in AB
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Fatman
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To Fatman!"
"Like I said you have nothing to add.
Harper put us on the world stage!!!
Yes he did he showed the world his disrespect to the real world leaders how incompetent he really is. He couldn't even make a photo opt! Is that really the only good thing he did for Canada?"
No more time for you today, maybe in a while, like 10 or 15 years. In the meantine have a great life.
And oh, one thing before parting, your 'handle', "Canada Goose Whistler" - does this mean you 'whistle' Canada geese and if so are they alive or dead when you're 'whistling', what tunes do you 'whistle' and what end do you blow in? Just had to ask..
Donna in Ottawa
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It is illegal for organizations such as charities to use money given to them for a specific purpose for any other purpose. So why was it ok for Paul Martin to balance the books using EI money?
To New Borne Liberal
Maybe if Paul Martin hadn't used that money for a purpose other than which it was for, there would now be enough money in the fund for all of the unemployed Canadians? Maybe they wouldn't have to wait 2 weeks, and maybe it would be more than 50% for 40 weeks!!!
Ray in AB
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Tim in DOwntown Tdot
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Tom
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Freedom is a responsibility not a right! - Moncton
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bunny
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Mary
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Annette
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Ray in AB
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Doug BC
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As someone who was a Liberal during the "do nothing" Cretien years,I take issue with some of the political "spin" now being generated by those whose loyalty to the Liberal party NEVER lets the truth get in their way.
I became a Liberal when Trudeau was just taking over the party.I even remained loyal during the awful years of Cretien,and looked forward to Paul Martin as PM.
But,in the end,I bolted the Liberal party BECAUSE of Paul Martin.The former finance minister who,in an effort to buy himself a majority,suddenly became the big tax and spend socialist that reminded me of Trudeau and his wasteful ways.
Yes,Paul Martin balance the budgets,and I'm glad he did.But he did it first,on the backs of provincial budgets,only when pressured by the international forces,and in the face of a dollar spiralling down,and MOST importantly,because he had revenue no previous government had.GST dollars by the ton,and a FTA deal that gave us access to the markets in the USA.NOw,it didn't matter to me how he did it,I am just graeful that he did.
However,for either Paul Martin himslel,or the Liberal party to claim credit for our reasonably good fiscal position is beyond rhetoric.It is simply political spin,or totally dilusional.
Either way,the Liberal party got off the road to fiscal stability in Canada when they went on a spending spree that denied the need to lower debt,and lower taxes in Canada.
To this day,they have not answered with a sound plan for debt reduction.They now want to win power with a bribe.Free day care.Get used to it.THERE IS NO FREE.Only someone else paying for your "free" programs.So,now I vote Conservative.
If Anyone R Us
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Canada Goose Whistler
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Point taken!
You really believe it's going to take 10 to 15 years before Harper does something good for Canada!
I was hoping he would step down before then.
Your dreaming in technicolor if you think he'll get voted in again.
M
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You seem to make some pretty strong statements but sadly you provide no evidence as to their validity. "Harper has no vision?" What makes you say that?
The conservatives want to deregulate the banks? Where is your evidence?
Harper hasn't done anything good for Canada, ever? What makes you say that?
"Because of Harper we were very close to being is (worse) shape than the USA"? What proof do you have of this?
After reading all your comments, all I can tell is that you randomly spit out extreme statements and sweeping generalisations without backing up your arguments. This type of behavior is just plain bullying... which is caused by hate... there's no place for that type of hateful fear-mongering in this country.
Dale
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Canada's strong position is the result of past Conservative and Liberal governments, most of all its the ingenuity of all Canadians.
I hear Harper talking not so much about his own strength, but of the strength in Canada and its people. Canada is currently very much on the world stage with the G20 and our financial institutions and policy are rated the best in the world, thats something to be proud of for all of us.
Harper presents Canadian success as the true strength of all of us. If you can put your ussual political bias aside we can all be proud of Canada's financial leadership, and the respect this earns us throughout the world.
Mary
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Denis
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Sean (Calgary)
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I live in Calgary (Harpers riding), and I have no interst in supporting him further.
This spending is RECKLESS. Multi Billion $ bailouts, and now a 10 BILLION gift to the IMF! OMG!!! I am steaming mad! It actually makes me seriously think about not paying my taxes.
JeffS.
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Alysha Ont
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To each Gov't that has been elected to power in the past, each Prime Minister has contributed something to this country. We elect them to be our Leaders and we should support them in the work they try to do. But remember, they are human! Only Jesus walked on water, no Prime Minister ever has !
Rhonda Pick Enderby
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Vic
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For those Consevative loyalists, your lovely Harper shows a charity king but how about Canadian Federal and provinces are shortage of funding???
Robert in Calgary
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John_Downtown_TO
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This plan does not address the cause of the economic crisis in the first place .. lack of regulation. Throwing a $ trillion at the crisis without improving financial regulations will at the very least result in abuse and at the very most, amount to waste of a trillion dollars.
Ha! Our Prime Minister at work with Canadian's best interest in mind - laughable and sad.
Jack - AB
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The severity of this recession is because of long term mortgages and low down payment options.
30-40 yr mortgages were brought in by the banks & insurance companies to make more money. I'll explain. Banks wanted to capitalize off the hot housing market. A 40 yr allows an individual to qualify for a higher mortgage value. 40 yr gives another $100,000+. So, you have these out of control people that went and took the maximum mortgage allotted to them pushing house prices way up there. Why were houses selling for $250,000 to $275,000 in Calgary pre-2005 and by end of 2007 they were at $500,000+??? It was the long term mortgages + low down payment option that caused many *greedy* investors to jump into the housing market and take advantage of other investors or serious, first time buyers - flip houses for profit. Many that bought property in 2007 ( & late 2006 ) have lost a good amount of equity and for some, their mortgages will be worth more than the home itself. Also why Harper came to his senses and eliminated 40 yr + 0% down in late 2008.
The long term mortgages were actually for banks to lend out tons and tons of money to out of control buyers who pushed prices into the unaffordable region. Lend more money = make more profit for the banks. If we had stuck with 25 yr then house prices in Calgary would have capped at $400,000 or even less and the recession would not be as crazy & deep. People pushing & buying houses at high prices -> high mortgage payments -> no money left to spend on other goods & services -> results in recession. Many industries have announced layoffs. See what happens to Canada in about 1 to 2 years when hundreds of thousands of people have lost their jobs and rely on savings and/or EI benefits to support themselves.
GaryG
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T-Rex of Political Talk
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The fragile U.S. economy has been met with bank bailoutsand stimulus plans. So what’s to come in 2010?
We're going to see the economic collapse the likes of which the world has never seen before. Its not only in the United States its going global. At the end of 2008 we saw Christmas retail sales: womens apparel down 23% home furnishings and electronics off 27% luxury items down 35% These are Depression Era collapses. We saw major bankruptcies such as retailers Circuit City and Linens and Things. One bankruptcy after another. Then we saw store closings. Starbucks, Home D&D Power and down the line.
The question becomes who is going to take all of the vacant retail space? Who is going to rent it? The answer is nobody. Now we look at the financial collapse in 2008, we saw the Merrill Lynch mob go under the bed and the Lehman boys went bankrupt. You saw bond companies brokerage firms and banks go belly up. Who is going to rent all the vacant commercial business space that they used to occupy? The answer is nobody. The commercial real estate collapse thats going to happen in 2009/2010 is going to dwarf the residential real estate collapse.
We have to look at the real number. There are two sets of books that the government keeps. When they measure up unemployment they dont add in the people who are no longer looking for jobs because they have become discouraged since they cannot find employment after looking so long. And they dont include parttime workers. When you put that number into it the number is 13.7% And thats a government number.
Do you believe that number?
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T-Rex of Political Talk
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Just like Mexico it will spill over to Canadam maybe 1 or 2 years.
I’m not exaggerating, the facts are there. I have a saying: when people lose everything and they have nothing to lose, they lose it. You’re going to see people saying, off with their heads.
It’s going to be a tax revolt. We’re going to start seeing a tax revolt in the United States. People are one job away from losing everything. We’re seeing more and more closures, people are being laid off. People are stretched to the limits. And what do they do in New York State? Some130 new taxes are being proposed, they’re raising sales taxes. There’s going to be a tax revolt in this country from property taxes first and school taxes second. That’s what we’re going to see start to happen.
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eddytoronto
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By their deeds you shall know them! If I bring in a baseball hitter that strikes out every time and I want him to play in the World Series is he going to hit the ball over the fence? They brought in Larry Summers, Timothy Geithner. Look at the crew. Look who they are. They’re strike out artists, every one of them. The only thing that they know how to do is not to get their finger nails dirty.
Read my lips. No new taxes. I didn’t have sex with that woman, Monica Lewinski.
I smoked but I didn’t inhale. Saddam Hussein has weapons of mass destruction and ties to Al-Qaeda. Why would anybody believe these people?
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Jaded
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And these are not "leaders" but rather people's representatives. Nothing more than a few elected souls.
SHAME!!!
L.A.
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tommyflash
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who pays then?
i hope it's not us.
L
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"An official told CP that Canada's total contribution to the IMF for 2009-10 now totals US$22 billion. However, there is no additional fiscal cost to Canada as the new funds come in the form of a loan and are considered both an asset and a liability, said the official."
So before everyone freaks out that this is taxpayer money never to be returned, from the article it doesn't sound like it.
On another point, I haven't heard Harper claim any credit for creating the fiscal system, all I've ever heard him say is that "Canada has a sound financial system", and why shouldn't he brag about that?? I'm proud of that and I've never been PM and never created the system. Every Canadian should be able to brag about that, especially our PM because one of his jobs is to promote Canada and represent Canada, and that includes all of Canada, liberal, ndp, conservatives, even the bloc, etc. So all of the liberals shouting about Martin creating the system, enough already, who cares who created it, just be happy we have it.
Aron in TO
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It was the LIBS that made the DRASTIC cuts to EI by reducing the amounts & weeks paid. Also LIBS who made it virtually impossible to qualify for it. And they increased the amount of premiums ordinary canadians have to pay into it.
Let's not even mention the corruption/bribes and scandals that the LIBS were responsible for; hence why they were booted out.
The fact that Mr Harper is putting plans & actions in place to assist those of us who lost their jobs, or businesses that need credit; is Exactly what is needed and is to be praised for his work.
Thank you Mr Harper for taking care of business. No need for Photo opps or Interviews ; we are grateful you are taking ACTION!!
God Bless & safe travels Mr Harper.
Al from Oshawa
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Stephen
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a small business owner in Western Canada
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Don from Ottawa
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PS: News flash for those who use these forums to bash Stephen Harper for all their problems. The economic downturn did not happen overnight. It is the result of years of sloppy financial practice by many governments, many businesses, and just plain average consumers. So let's all get off our high horse, please.
Joyce.
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I wish to say it was totally disrespectful of the media to report this.
Can I say then that the media is being just so disrespectfull and disgusting.
Mary
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Richard in Ontario
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Go Steven Go
Mark, Victoria BC
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When will people realize that the crisis we have seen today is tiny compared to what will happen as a result of climate change?
alberta unemployed oilfield @ construction worker
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With that said i have been unemployed now for 5 months. I have never not been able to not find some kind of work even if its simple construction or higher paying oilfield work.
I am ashamed for my family that i now depend on my spouse to pay our bills which is almost nothing since i was smart enough not to buy a fancy expensive house or vehicle.
We have always payed for most things and have never bought anything NEW.
But now i am feeling very hopeless. Jobs in alberta are so scarce at the moment even this summer looks like I might still not see a job listing ANYWHERE in this province.
My point is this. I wish i had a job instead of 5 months extra EI. I hate the fact im on it and it runs out very soon anyways. So then what? What do i tell my family now?
I blame all of this on blind direction from our Blue/Con government which i used to supported and do NOT support now.
Our Gov was Screaming that for the last 2 years alberta was still in a boom, But the facts, Oilfield here was busted and on a down slope 3 years ago. Construction was strong until summer of last year then flopped by Fall. NO WORK ANYWHERE!
Our CON Gov is so out of touch with people, I just don't even know what im gonna do.First time ever in my life I am disgusted with Harper & the blue prov i helped to build!
Fed up
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Well since i never ever missed filing my taxes and im un employed anyways and have no way to pay this scam amount from the canadian revenue agency I pulled any savings i had out of my bank, and now will get my friends to cash any cheqs i could possible get this summer. SCREW canada, Pathetic that they turn the average citizen over and screw them in the middle of a recession for nothing.
Just amazes me that when the gov run by the blues needs money they try and screw all the average canadians over any way they can...I will not pay! Shove it Jim flaherty - you and your gov will not get a dime from me, I HAVE NOTHING TO LOSE! Jail time is cheaper thanks!
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Charles, Nanaimo
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To see a Conservative PM getting praise from the rest of the Western World obviously sends them ballistic.
All they can do is snivel that it's all just photo-ops. Wouldn't be if it was a Liberal PM getting it, but then, when did a Liberal P.M get asked by the P.M of the mother country for his advice on how to run the financial side of his own country.
If you really want to criticize something that is real, how about your (most likely) darling, south of the border.
His meet the press session was the worst performance I have ever seen from a leader, in five decades of watching politics. The way he stumbled and stammered (no idiot board there I guess) through reporter's questions was painful to watch, and it was starkly emphasised when CTV showed a clip of Harper's session and followed it immediately by Obama's
There seems little doubt that most on here would rather see our economy in the tank than see a Conservative getting praise. Sad, when you let your politics get so much in the way of a dose of common sense.
JB at the UofC
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Can you do me a favor and pull your head out of....the clouds. What is so great about the banking system? The CEO's are just as overpaid as any other industry we just don't hear about it because they are not struggling.
And why aren't they struggling? Because they charge, charge, charge for every little thing. $1.50 per cross bank transaction for a total of $3.00. Charges for having a savings account if it doesn't have a certain amount in it.
BOC is charging 0.5% for the banks to borrow but they are charging us a minimum of 4%.
Ya it's no wonder our banks are doing so good.
Doing to us the exact thing the Liberals did to us with their taxes (oh sorry people defend it as a surplus on here).
Cornwall Bob
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The PM has done a superb job as has the rest of the G20....period.
paul in brant
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liberals good
conservatives bad
now can we get on to real news issues and comments?
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RZ
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Why? The underlying raison d'être of today's economy is runaway consumption, coupled with easy credit. It has led Westerners to live beyond their means to a point that the majority risk being in poverty if they miss two paycheques, while at the same time, has been the driving force of manufacturing in emerging economies such as China and India. And not to mention, such runaway consumption puts a serious drain on Earth's natural resources and cannot be sustained in the long term. So in order to fix this economy, we will need to undergo a paradigm shift in which consumption will be dramatically reduced and the main focus areas are sustainability and innovation (as opposed to focusing on profit regardless of consequence).
Don in Fredericton
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majority. Don't listen to the crap being spouted in this blog.
Peter 1951
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Tono
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We need a global reserve currency. This will make everything much more stable. Otherwise, internal decisions in the USA can influence markets everywhere, and that is what has happened.
Having a global reserve currency will also help to eliminate the uni-polar, America-centricised world we are living in today.
Praise was for Canada, not for Harper.
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Like when he was working in the Imperial Oil mailroom.
Paul from Guelph
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