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Canada AM: Dr. Peter Brindley, Univ. of Alberta

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Date: Thu. Mar. 26 2009 12:15 PM ET

Could Emmy Award-winning medical dramas like "ER" be giving medical students the wrong ideas of what life is really like in the emergency room? The results of a fascinating new Canadian study suggest they could.

Dr. Peter Brindley, a critical-care specialist at the University of Alberta Hospital, and colleague Dr. Craig Needham decided to investigate the question while looking for the best ways to teach resuscitation methods to students.

Knowing that pre-conceived ideas about medicine can influence students even after they get accepted into med school, the pair decided to survey 80 medical students and residents about their attitudes. They were particularly interested in knowing how the students had learned to intubate patients, which involves carefully inserting a tube down the windpipe.

What started out as a somewhat trivial exploration into the minds of students uncovered some surprises.

"We asked medical students 'Where did you get some of your ideas before you even came into the medical profession?' And interestingly enough, 'ER came up as the number one influence," Brindley told Canada AM.

Brindley says he found the students' answers even more surprising given that he himself can't stand watching medical dramas anymore.

"But I'll admit, somewhat sheepishly, back in medical school, I watched these shows too," Brindley said with a laugh.

Knowing that ER was such an influence on the students, Brindley and Needham decided to watch a few episodes of the show and observe their techniques.

"We watched two seasons of ER and not once was the resuscitation done properly," Brindley notes. "And that's despite having numerous medical experts advising the show."

Brindley and Needham's study, published in the journal Resuscitation, is not the first to look at the influence of TV medical dramas.

A 1996 study in the New England Journal of Medicine looked at three shows -- 'ER,' 'Chicago Hope' and 'Rescue 911' - and found that 75 per cent of the patients who went into cardiac arrest on those shows were revived. In reality, only about six to 15 per cent of patients in arrest in an ER survive.

The authors of that study argued that such small-screen inaccuracies "may encourage the public to disregard the advice of physicians and hope that such a miracle will occur for them as well."

Brindley agrees.

"I could certainly understand that harmless entertainment shows, every now and then, don't do things the way that medical evidence would suggest. And that's fine... The intriguing thing, though, is that there is a fair amount of evidence out there that it does influence both how patients and families feel. And perhaps - perhaps - it influences doctors."

Patients shouldn't be worried, Brindley emphasizes, because there is no reason to believe that Drs. Carter, Ross and Greene on "ER" are making doctors re-think their own techniques.

"Experienced physicians are not watching TV shows and then saying 'Perhaps I'll give that a go.'"

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Jasper
said

What? You mean these shows aren't real? I hope someone didn't spend alot of taxpayers money on this study.


guppies
said

If they want to become a professional at this field and if a tv show can influence them. They shouldn't be there to start with.


KC-bby
said

I've learned that most doctors I've come across are incompetent, but now to find out this!...explains a lot.


EMG
said

Why should this surprise anyone given that the broadcast media play such a large role in the lives of the young, and not so young? Add to that the influence of the net with information about everything,with no accountability for the accuracy of the information and you have a recipe for an ill-informed populous.


Dave
said

This makes sense. Programs like CSI are making people think that crimes and court cases should be solved in a day or two. Everyone is looking for "the smoking gun".


david sawkiw[saskatchewan farmer]
said

I am thinking about switching careers.I don't really want to become a doctor. What tv shows should I watch to become a lawyer??


Rick in NB
said

Wake me up. Dr. Brindley is trying to tell me that a student who has spent the last 15 years in front of a Playstation, Xbox or a Wee hasen't the ability to tell the difference between reality and TV. Boy this guy got my attention. Next he will say that Americans think we don't have a military.


Hiki
said

You could end up in an ER with the obvious,visible and neurological signs of Meningitis and doctors in this Province won't have a clue what you have.
Why bother with TV ads and telling the public if you have any of these signs go to an ER.
From what I have seen even the obvious is dismissed.....



Tk in BC
said

Guess what? People become cops based on what they see on TV. TV cops are not real life cops. Anyone who signed up to the RCMP after watching "Due South" was surely disappointed.

People also decide to become lawyers based on "Boston Legal"...more disappointment abounds. I am sure it is equally true of "the Sopranos" for criminal life.

That TV glamourizes violence, idolizes career paths and is NOT real should not come as a surprise...

The fact that people take TV to be something close to real, that is disturbing.


Jj - Toronto, ON
said

In a relatively recent episode of Grey's Anatomy, the character played by Katherine Heigl (Izzie)had a group of interns diagnose the condition of Patient X (who I won't spoil his/her identity). In any case, the group's behaviour during and after the diagnosis was horrendous - childish and silly. Even after diagnosing the serious condition (metastatic melanoma (Stage IV) I think) the interns acted like children, expecting rewards and whatnot.

With this in mind, I would hope current/future medical interns don't follow the behaviours of those on the Grey's Anatomy show of the aforementioned episode.

Really, medical shows are okay, but should be taken as being inspiring and never as a "textbook" example of how to do/handle things.

Last thing we need, for sure.


Billy Perks Sarnia,Ontario
said

Hiki,you could be rushed to the ER by ambulance in a coma and still be asked to wait in triage.


island girl
said

So TV influences what people think goes on in ERs. What about these stupid 'home makeover' shows that completely redo houses in three days! As if that really happens! And these renovations are never done properly either. I've seen curtains stapled up, and drywall faults hidden by hanging something over them. At least the medical shows are obviously fictitious. These How-To shows pretend to be real.


Sherry Katrina
said

Oh My god! If these are the types of Doctors and Nurses we will have for the future - and they are influenced by TV SHOWS - and believe this Hollywood stuff - we are in for a lot of problems! If a student figures they learned something from a TV Show - they should FAIL that part of their teaching and have to learn the REAL way to do things.
What the "hang" is happening with our young people today? Hopefully we'll hear from the REALLY intelligent ones - the ones who have taken their education seriously - not the "Valley Students" - Like this is - like - ridiculous - like - as if!


Janet
said

ah-ha; I knew that there had to be an explanation on why doctors are the way they are - it has been from watching all the med shows on t.v. to learn...let's start way back with Ben Casey, Dr. Kildare, Macus Welby M.D., Quincy, Chicago Hope,
oh, my we can't forget
St. Elsewhere,,,Mark, Denzel & Howie do it...did it! What about the guys that wannna become soldiers, bet they watched M*A*S*H, Trapper John M.D. Is there a HOUSE in the hospital anywhere???
The list can go on and on from med shows to how a doc or nurse get there degree from ... Right!!! PLEASE where do you get your statistics??? You watch too much t.v. yourself I'd say.


PN Law Student [Toronto]
said

I think that there is nothing wrong with deciding on a career choice after watching shows like ER and Boston Legal. If anything, these shows inspire people to seek these professions. This doesn’t mean that by watching the shows these people start acting like the characters.


RobM
said

Star Trek isn't real, but it inspired many individuals to pursue careers in computers, engineering, technology, and space.

I don't see a problem, here.


Cambob
said

Right.
And cops are influenced by CSI.
And telemarketers are influenced by Sick Kids Telethons.
And students are influenced by Degrassi
And hungry people are influenced by pizza commercials.

ok, study complete, where is my 1 million dollar grant to study the FREAKIN' OBVIOUS!


Dr. Do-More
said

No wonder I've self diagnosed twice in the past year. Just another symptom of a world that is lowering the bar on EVERYTHING, to appease people. I say raise the bar higher and make these so called Doctors work for their title.



Chicken
said

And what about 24?

Jack Bauer is a role model for our future cops, especially when they get that Tazer pointed in the right direction.


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