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Ignatieff makes pitch for Grit support in Quebec

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Date: Sun. Mar. 22 2009 6:01 PM ET

Liberal Leader Michael Ignatieff made a pitch to Quebecers Sunday, saying his party could provide them with a new road into Ottawa that does not force them to make a choice between their Quebecois and Canadian identities.

"Give us the chance to prove what we can do for Quebec, for your families, for your neighbours, for you," Ignatieff said in a speech to supporters in Laval, Que., on Sunday morning.

"Let us prove that there is no contradiction between your Quebec pride and the grand and beautiful experience that is Canada."

Ignatieff made his remarks while addressing delegates at the general council meeting for the Liberal party's Quebec wing.

More than 400 Liberal delegates gathered in Laval over the weekend, to discuss strategy in Quebec at a time when the Liberals appear to be gaining in the polls.

Ignatieff picked up on this theme during his speech, telling delegates that the Liberals were the best choice for Quebecers who wish to see their province gain more power at the federal level.

"Quebecers do not deserve to be in a permanent opposition in Ottawa. Their place is in power," Ignatieff said, pausing for applause.

"The red has returned. I am so proud to be a Liberal; I am so proud to be Canadian. The time has come for Quebecers to get their place back in Ottawa," he added later.

Ignatieff also spoke about his personal experiences in Quebec and the story of how his Russian grandparents settled in la belle province in the 1920s.

While Ignatieff said he would elaborate on a party platform when the time was right, some critics said Sunday's speech lacked specifics and didn't provide enough details.

Political analyst L. Ian MacDonald said it was a speech perfect for its time, if short on substance.

"It's what we call une belle parole de circumstances -- he said all the right things and touched all the right buttons about unity and Quebec's place in Canada," said MacDonald.

"It was a speech that was long on unity on rhetoric, but short on specifics."

If the Liberals are to gain a foothold in Quebec, it will be an uphill battle: The party currently holds only 14 of 75 federal seats, barely ahead of the Conservatives' own 10 seats. The Bloc Quebecois hold the vast majority, with 49 seats.

But pollster Nik Nanos said the Liberals are gaining points in Quebec from rival parties and appear to be particularly strong in Montreal.

"The interesting thing is that a lot of that support is concentrated on the island of Montreal," Nanos told CTV's Question Period on Sunday.

"What it means is that Montreal is probably going to be a real wasteland for the Conservatives. The Liberals have been picking up from the Conservatives, the New Democrats and, to a lesser extent, the Bloc in the province of Quebec."

With files from The Canadian Press

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bruno
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I agree with the Liberal leader. Quebec is better served by a Liberal government. The Liberals understand the province and Quebecois better than the Cons.


bill
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canada has never kept quebecers out. they choose to do that themselves. Ignatieff blowing smoke again


RS
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What a Great Leader and a great prime minister Ignatieff will make. We need him more then ever


Trent
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"Ignatieff spoke about his personal experiences in Quebec," ~ When? As a teenager?!! Let us not forget that Ignatieff turned his back on Canada for 30 years while he chose to live in the UK and the US. During those years he never once paid a penny of tax to Canada. Do we want this person as a leader? let alone a Canadian citizen?!


Terri
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Does anybody else find this scary? Instead of a united Canada ,we have a Liberal leader telling Quebec that their place is to be in power!!What about the rest of Canada? Obviously it is all about the votes. I love all of Canada and again we have someone trying to get votes by dividing the country. I am really starting to get p off.


Matt
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Excellent, my headache has returned.


Gary
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It's time for the Libs to reassert themselves. They are truly the only national/federalist party that is centrist and balanced. We don't need or want extreme parties representing far right or far left policy and legislation. The current government are wolves in sheeps clothing. But Canadians are smarter that this and see right through the veneer. The Libs have spent their time in the penalty box and with a much better leader with Ignatieff and the economic, environmental and social/social justice issues facing us we need the best party for all Canadiand back at the helm.


noel
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I agree Matt,here we go again.Liberals just don;t get it,thanks but no thanks.


Same ol' .... same ol'
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Once again a typical Liberal leader going into Quebec to try and get them to think that the rest of Canada is juuust a bit less good than them. Divide and conquer mentality that truly does insult the Quebecois intelligence, as much as the rest of the peoples' in this country. We are all Canadaians. Period. During the coalition talk, Ignatieff signed the agreement that said "Quebec and Canada" on the first page. This is what leadership is to some Canadians? Dividing it's own people? Baaa Baaa sheep. How easy people forget, or how sad that some wish to ignore the truth of the Liberal Party. The Red is back alright...just like a commie.


Cliff Andrews
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Here we go again!! I grew up hearing about Quebec’s displeasure with being part of Canada, though they have never refused the financial stability associated with being part of Canada. Either your part of this great country or not!!! The choice is theirs. Perhaps the rest of Canada should have a say as to whether we wish to continue having Quebec as part of Canada. Maybe that should be the next referendum!!!!!!



james
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little early for an april fools joke iggy. you will never be prime minister. there is more to canada then just quebec.


Sean
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Ignateiff go back to the USA,,,you know nothing!!!!!


Jim-Surrey
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Quebec with power?
God help us!
Iggy will say and do anything to try and get votes for the Liberals.
And how can he be proud to be Canadian when he spent most of his life in other countries?
This man is scary and I see western Canada is forgotten AGAIN or should I say still.
Quebec seems to think they are the only part of Canada and the rest of us don't matter!
Thats the eastern mentally and THAT is scary for the rest of Canada!
IGGY go back to where ever you came from before immigrating to Canada as we don't need your (RED=commie) ideals!!!!!!!!!!!!



Don
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Under no circumstances should Canadians be sucked into voting the all-promising, do-nothing party into power. The Conservatives aren't that great either but the overall record of the Liberals is a national disgrace.


Still in Ontario
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Gee, Ignatieff does that mean that the red liberals are going to repay the missing $150 million; taxpayers have not forgotten. I live in Ontario & have seen what a mess liberal socialists are capable of making. If Quebec is smart they will take a lession from Ontario & say no to liberals.


Ken P.
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Did you ever wonder what the political landscape of this country would look like if the oilsands were in Quebec instead of Alberta ? Would Quebec have left confederation long ago ?


Dayton
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Typical Liberal leadership to promise the moon. How many times will you Liberals be fooled by this B.S? Time to start thinking for yourselves!


Tori
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I don't trust him one bit.

I am loyal to neither party and this candidate frightens me.

He thinks by saying the right things he can waltz into Canada and take the highest seat in public office without his Liberal Party ever having voted him in.

He thinks that by telling Quebec the Liberal party is best for him that the BLOC will disappear and Quebec will all but sucumb to the great red power.

He thinks by blowing smoke he can talk the Canadian public into believing he is the Obama of Canada.

He is no more a Canadian than May is.....

Polls are climbing only because the current PM is in power in the worst time in history since the great depression. Even if he leads us out of it there will be no reward for him.

What we may need more than anything is a party leader who is down the middle. With a leader who believes all Canadians are equal. Who sees the Maritimes as well as BC. Who can focus on jobs, healthcare, welfare, new initiatives to have our children obtain higher education and someone who can actually stop the surge of crime in Canada. We need a miracle worker, and I just don't see it at the moment.

Ignetieff is an opportunitst, not the future of Canadian politics.


SK Freedom Lover
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Actually, with laws like Bill 101, Quebec is NOT part of bilingual Canada...why are my English language rights denied there?


Melanie Terrace,BC
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Fascinating.As I watch this unfold,I get the feeling that it's not so much that Ignatieff is leading the Liberals,but more that the Liberal party is leading Mr.Ignatieff down the same old socialist path.
I would say,that,as far as I can see from here,Quebec does appear a bit more left of centre than most places in Canada,so he may have a point about Liberals being a more natural fit.But it also has to be remembered that it was a Liberal the patriated the constitution without agreement from Quebec,and without Senate Reform.And they have yet to come up with new positions on either of these issues.
I don't much care for a lot of things about the way Harper is moving.But the Liberals are still a scary bunch.No policies ever seem to change.They just trot out new faces to "lead" us into the same old morass of left wing socialism,high taxes and big debt.
Could I vote for them? It could happen,but not before they promise to lower our outrageous taxes,pay down the national debt,support our military properly,stop pandering to criminals,and support a democratic and effective Senate.
Until then,I urge people not to return these double talking snake oil salesmen to power.They will come up with new policies.But not until they loose another election.They have yet to "come clean" on any of their national positions.
If you have to,hold your nose when you vote.But this is not the time to return this dysfunctional party to power.They wiil spend,tax and steal until we are left with nothing but huge bills and nothing to show for it.
Their time wil come.But we need to wait until the have polices we can vote FOR.Not when we are only voting AGAINST Mr.Harper.


R D
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Iggy must have rented a new BS-mobile. I won't rant on, but he's sounding like the second coming of P.E. Trudeau. I have to agree with Ian MacDonald. No substance. Spring is here. The hot-air baloons are rising.


Dave Williams, Phd.
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This man is in my opinion very intelligent and charismatic! I for one will prefer a prime minister that has travelled the world and lived amongst various cultures for a country like Canada. This indeed is a good day! I sense a new beginning.


Ryan P.
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Great, Quebec likes the Liberals again....short memories in la belle province. Pandering to Quebec gets us nowhere FAST, look at what Harper gave them in his first term. Then he proposed a cut of a few million dollars to arts programs (that most Canadians would never even realized got cut) and up down go the Conservative votes....enough is enough....Quebec should be treated as an equal province....nothing more and nothing less....and if they don't like it have a referendum and we will all deal with the result.


JP, Montreal
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Once again you have a bunch of anglo phone readers trashing quebecois about 'choosing to be out themselves' For once Id like these readers to actually be informed about what it means to be quebecois and understand their point of view before making comments here. Most of these people probably havent spoken to a francophone their entire lives....Learn the sides then comment anglophones.


Reg in Surrey
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What if we were to kick Quebec out of Confederation. Oh sure, we would still have to work something out for the benefit of the Atlantic provinces. However, we wouldn't have to listen to them whine and complain about how much they're NOT getting. But then, Quebecers would have all the power they want - and no opposition, not to mention all the other headaches that go with being independent.


Paul in Ajax
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Iggy was for the coalition and then against it. Iggy said the Bloc should be in the coalition because they are democratically elected, and then said they should not because they want to seperate Canada. Iggy took part in the daily slagging of Mulroney, and now calls to say happy birthday? Iggy was against the oilsands, and now supports them.

What does all this mean? Depending on which way the wind is blowing, Iggy can go either way. And please tell me thats a misprint and he never really said Quebecers deserve to be back in power.


JS
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Seeing as there were 450 Quebec delegates, they could and should have voted wheather or not they wanted Ignatieff to be their leader. Since Ignatieff is an appointed leader and not an elected leader, it would make more sense to at least have him elected in Quebec. Last time I checked, an appointed leader is a dictator. Right now that is what Ignatieff is, a dictator and NOT a leader.


Steve G
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Judging by the polls, the Liberals would likely win a minority government if an election were held today, but having a minority government during a recession would not be beneficial to the Liberals.

They would be wise to hold off for six months to a year and then force an election. This way, the Cons will wear the recession like a cheap sweater vest, and the Liberals can make a drive for a majority.

I'm not a Liberal supporter, but if I was their strategist, this is how I would play it.


Jim McB
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Ignatief is being coy. Quebec even thought it receives the lion's share of equalization is in severe defecit mostly fuelled by its costly socialist programs. The Liberal plan is to splash money on the province "for the social good and unity" and buy the votes it needs with the money of taxpayers from other provinces. It will be like an equalization plus plan and anyone who says anything against it will be a "divider".

At one time I had hope for this guy but he is fitting right in to the old Liberal pattern of doing things. One thing he has is the support of the fawning left Lib media. Every time the guy breaks wind it is a national story.


Gail (Hamilton)
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The spin continues. While the Libs are envious of the Dems in the US, they will stop at nothing to regain power. They will promote they are the only party that really cares for Canadians, when in fact, it's all about power. The question Canadians need to ask is "do we want red state control over our lives?" Some of us remember the coalition which would have broken the financial back of this country.


KJ in Kingston Ontario
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I would say they've given up on the West at ths point -- but if they can win Quebec the will get a Liberal minority -- plain and simple... And I would think it is quite likely -- and in reality there's little or no difference between a Liberal and Conservative minority.

Babe steps.




CB in Ontario
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Give Quebec more power? Why don't we just let them run the entire country. I keep saying Western Canada and in particular Alberta is the only province that is financially capable to seperate, and when they take their transfer payments, Quebec will be finished.


Mark L
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I'm originally from Atlantic Canada - and one thing I've never understood during my past 15 years living in western Canada is why people here HATE - & I mean absolutely hate - Quebec & french-speaking Canadians so much.

My grandmother was Acadian and she was the sweetest human being one can imagine. I have dozens upon dozens of Acadian relatives and they are all warm, spirited, loving, caring, hard-working people who would do ANYTHING to help fellow human beings, particularly in times of need.

Please, my fellow western Canadians, drop this act of denigration of people you don't even know.

Sincerely,
Mark


Brock
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But there is a contradiction between Quebec and the ROC. If Quebec was removed from the equation, Canada's politics would shift back toward the Right and we'd be more willing to have a spine on foreign affairs. Mr. Ignatieff's speech may put some points on the board in Quebec for him, but in the rest of Canada, his efforts would be flushed down the toilet. Ontarians, Albertans, and Manitobans do not want to have another Quebec-centric Liberal elitist government at the helm in Ottawa. Enough is enough already!


Samual
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I believe all Of Canada is served better under liberal government. It's a joke watching Harper bounce around looking for votes. Sorry Harper soon you will be out of a job. The liberals have more votes than the cons now & that is going to grow hopefully to a majority. Harper today trying get rid of the gun registery, I guess like him not knowing were in a recession everyone knows guns kill people


Bruce
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Iggy is worse than Dion, He says contradictory things when he speaks in different places, he keeps talking out of both sides of his mouth.

Let's see what happens next time an election is called, the opposition coalition was formed out of response to the idea of repealing Chretien's $1.95 per vote taxpayer subsidy, Iggy signed onto that coalition and he will never be able to shake off that ball and chain.

The majority of Canadians want that subsidy repealed.




Mark
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At long last, the "Red" has returned from the wilderness. We have come back down from the mountain. We have seen the burning bush and are now armed with a fresh set of commandments with which to once again rule Canada.

Verily, we are back. All will now be well. Quebecors you may rest easy for we shall salve your wounds and restore things to how they should be rightfully held. The dark time shall soon be over, I, Michael and my Red machine will deliver you.

Be afraid Canada...be very afraid.



said
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Why should we vote for this man or his party? The liberals need to do some serious soul searching in their own party before I'll place a vote for them. And as to their leader... He hasn't even lived here for the past thirty years or so. How can he have any real idea as to what's right for Canada?


hollinm
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Iggy is getting a reputation for making speeches but saying nothing of substance. If he thinks Canadians are going to vote for a carpetbagger who lived and worked most of his adult life outside the country he is in for a big surprise. The elitists in Quebec may like him but the rest of us ordinary folk find the guy nauseating.


Phil (Halifax)
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I don’t care which party does what in the next federal election, just as long as one of them wipes the terrorists organization known as the BLOC out. Makes me sick that my taxes go to support a party whose goal is to break up this country.


Dixie From Alberta
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Quebec has always been in a position of power. They sneeze and the rest of the country pulls out a hanky to wipe their nose. We have always had to jump to their tune. What a scary thought for the west.....The libs back in... talk about western alienation...how about western separation!!!


Bernie
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Why can't the Liberal party elect a leader?

This guy has no right hanging on to the leadership he forced his way into.

He will keep the party in opposition, not the people of Quebec. What next? Alberta is responsible for his shortcomings.


m@ - Kingston
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Ok, look. I love Quebec, I'm an Ontarian, but the only ones who have driven a wedge between Quebec and the rest of Canada are the separatists and those who work against bilingualism in Quebec.

Ignatieff is just taking advantage of the fact that Quebecers are angry that Canada didn't want Quebec separatist party in power. Will they succumb to his flattering words? .... Probably.


rob o
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to Trent:

I am a Canadian, and worked out of the country many times etc. Big deal.. that does not make me less of a Canadian or anyone else more of a Canadian. Being Canadian is my culture and citizenship, not just about the taxes you pay. Seriously.. what a ridiculous concept


Ronald in Toronto
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Historically, a Liberal party that didn't win Quebec was a Liberal party in opposition.

Now that Ontario is starting to "get it", the Liberals are even more determined to get a grip on anything in Quebec that isn't nailed down.

Quebecers know a baby-kisser when they come strolling by. And why wouldn't they - they've seen it all before and even been known to have participated on many an occasion.

Once again, however, when the ship left, the Liberals were at the bus station... promising free tickets to Hab's games and a photo-op with Ken Dryden.


Evan/Kingston
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I have a hard time believing that Quebec will embrace a man who has lived half his life outside Canada and who strongly and openly endorsed the Iraq war. I have a feeling that if he gets elected, the voters who wanted a shift left from the Harper government will realize that Iggy is just as "small-c" conservative as most Conservatives.


Emil
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Of course he's courting Quebec;it's the only chance the liberals have. The west will never accept the liberals until they figure out what they stand for. From what I see, they now believe they can make it out east with their ex-pat Ignatieff. I wish we had a law that didn't allow someone who has spent the better part of his life as an american get into a position of power with government.


John
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As usual, Ignatieff is preaching to his own choir. Also, "The red has returned..." - what an unfortunate turn of phrase...


Tone-deaf Westerner
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Whatever! More platitudes directed to, and face saving for, Quebec.

Get with the program or get out.

Montreal and the Liberal Party together do not determine what is good for Canada.


Doug BC
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I was a Liberal.I became one when the late,Rt.Hon. Pierre Trudeau was just taking over the leadership.
I quit the party when the "conservative" finance minister,Paul Martin,became the big spending,big taxing learder of the Liberals.When we got our deficits under control,he didn't address the issue of the national debt,he went on a spending spree in an attempt to buy himself a majority.Shame on him,and the party.
Now,as I wait for a chance to return to the party,I am still waiting for him to address real national issues with real policies.
What about the debt? What is your real position on the Senate? Talk to me about our role in NATO? Do provinces have rights,or are you clinging to the Trudeau vision of all the power being held in Ottawa?? Are you satisfied to win office by winning Quebec and Ontario,or is the west going to be lifted froom it's current colonial status?? If you really are a centrist party,why are you not willing to actually work,right now,to resolve some very pressing issues on which Liberal and Conservative positions are really not as much at odds as a centrist party would be with the socialist BLOC and NDP parties?? Or,are you really NDPers in drag who would be more appropriately naed "NDP Lite". Do you still feel Canada should have gone to Iraq to support the USA?? If not,why the change??
I am not fond of the current government.But I suggest western Canadians view this man with a great deal of suspicion.If he wins an election,once again,we will be on the outside looking in.
Do not vote for this man until he shows his real positions on major issues.If nothing else,we also deserve to be heard.


Robert
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I find it rather sad and, let’s face it, ignorant, when a person deems one a traitor for living and working abroad. I’m confused how, just because a person lives in another country, they suddenly have to give up their citizenship and love for their homeland? Give me a break! One doesn’t need a course in socio-economics to know that having a country’s citizens living and working abroad is an asset, not a detriment. This insular way of thinking has been touched upon here with regards to Quebec, for example. It only serves to keep us down. I happen to be thrilled that a strong leader has taken the helm of the Liberal party.


Can Can
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with all due respect bruno, I think many Canadian's are tire of asking "what is good for Quesbec?" and serving their special needs. Many are tired of the coddling.



Ben
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People living in Québec are starting to realize the rest of Canada is fed up with their antics.Michael Ignatieff didn't make any profound statements. I agree very big on rhetoric specific points zero. It seems like all or most Easterners are only concerned about sucking the money out of the rest of Canada. This has to stop it doesn't matter how much you promise them they're still going to vote the same old way. They'll divide the votes just enough to leave us with another minority government.
JUST WHAT WE NEED AT THIS TIME


Tomko
said
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Here we go again the "Red" the famous color of the "Commies".
In the with the "Separatists", claiming we are back and the same.
Go Figure.


NO not the Liberals AGAIN
said
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The RED has return.... hmmm what a scary thought.


roy
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I think Mr Ignatief is counting his chickens before they hatch and the only reason the Liberals have always been better for Quebec is they were always led by a Quebecer but Mr Ignatief will never win the west amen.


Jayme
said
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People don't forget he left canada for 30 years.Now he comes back and whats to be a pm.I have a bit of a issue with someone who does leaves comes back and now wanst all the power.


Rav
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Count Iggy makes me sick.

"The red has returned. I am so proud to be a Liberal; I am so proud to be Canadian. The time has come for Quebecers to get their place back in Ottawa"

Place back in Ottawa? He means place back at the public trough in exchange for votes! Liberals are so good at the politics of division.


Steve
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And here we go again - Thanks Ignatieff for promoting separation, the greed for power and once again french against english hatred in this country with your elitist views " Their place is in power "

This almost sounds like the Taliban ... hmmmmmmmm

Ottawa


david sawkiw[saskatchewan farmer]
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Wel, well, nothing too surprising here.Typical hypocricy.
Ignatioff is shmoosing the french. At least you have to give him credit for being able to count!! Steve has in the past, forgot how to count{seats that is}.
Any canadian who cares to do the math will see, in order to have a majority quebec is critical.Such are the numbers.Until we wake up and fix this huge imbalance,, quebec is canada and canada is quebec!!

If you don't like it,, too bad.

That is just the way it is.................


nin05
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I really think Western Canadians are upset because no one cares about them. Lets be honest, if you're not from the east, you're useless to the country. Save British Columbia actually. Keep voting Conservative though... that might make you semi-relevant. LOL!


Frank in Maple Ridge
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RS thinks Iggy would make a great leader and a great Prime Minister! What have you been smoking? Something illegal I would guess.
I agree with letting Quebec go their own way. They would last about as long as a snowball in !;!!.


Specimen Yarp
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"Please, my fellow western Canadians, drop this act of denigration of people you don't even know."

Believe me, it's no act. Why don't you just get out and move back home.

"Their place is in power"
That's enough for me to never vote Liberal if they believe Quebec's place is in power.


BLE
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I don't have a problem with Mr.Ignatieff telling Quebecer's, vote for me! All parties tell voters in our country,"Elect me! We'll form government and you'll be better represented." There is nothing obscene about that, it's the process, it's normal. The people critizing him, seem to be the same ones who comment about how Quebec elects the Bloc -- (Seperatists) as their representatives in Canada's parliment. Mr Ignatieff is simply suggesting that rather then voting for someone that is never going to form government (Bloc), vote for him (Liberals). Mr. Harper is free to do the same thing, it's called democracy. Then let the Quebec electorate decide. Simple yet aaaa--wesome !!!!!


Ray Jacques, Glen Robertson, ON
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To Sean and others who do not seem to understand proper spoken English & French.

Mr. Ignatieff was raised in Quebec. He made a success of himself abroad ib England and in the USA.

This is excellent preparation for a future Canadian Prime Minister -Mr. Ignatieff is well travelled, urbaine, well read (even President Obama has read his books)

Imagine, we are about to have a well educated Canadian as Prime Minister who does get it, who has vision, who has good Centrist policies, who is not out-of-touch with Canadians and who is ready to welcome Quebecs (also Canadians) back into government which he is offering to them as an option to vote Liberal in the next election instead of for the Bloc).

All this good news seems to scare you.

Welcome to the club, Mr. Harper has scared me since he came onto the political scene with his dishonesty, obsolete right-wing policies, obvious incompetence, extreme partisanship and divisive policies.

Time for a new prime Minister who has vision. A Prime Minister who we can be proud of again - not cringing as we do virtually every time Mr. Harper opens his mouth.

In with the good - out with the bad -

Time for change in Canada !
Yes WE can !!


Dave
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To me Quebec is like the big 3 auto makers unions. You've already taken enough, if you don't like it, it's time for you to leave.


Cambob
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Iggy called Mulroney the other day to wish him a Happy Birthday.
Mulrony, the guy who gave us the GST.
Mulrony, the guy who caused the formation of the Bloc.
Mulrony, the guy who turned this country into a dictatorship (under Cretien)

Go Iggy!
Please.. go.



Prof. Pye Chartt
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FINE & DANDY

The Liberals are, perhaps, more suited to representing Quebecers; as the party of Trudeau is far superior at coddling self-interested whiners, especially those incapable of thinking beyond their own provincial, societal, and cultural boundary.

Let the Conservatives represent the majority across the country who see themselves as "Canadian" first.


CFG in Edmonton
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Hey RS. What makes you say this man would make a great leader? What? Every place he goes he blows of steam. He even comes to Alberta and says he is pro tar sands and that it is important to Canada for Alberta to succeed. That can't possibly be a liberal platform. Why, because it makes sense. I can't imagine this person who spent what was it 35 years away from this country being a great Canadian. He just has an ego. That is the only thing liberal about the man.


Dave in Alberta
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What a bunch of crap. Quebec given more power in the Federal Government???? Just what the rest of Canada needs - right. Give the Quebecers more $$$$$ is what this stems down to. The Liberals screwed us before and will do it again, just to get more votes in hopes of getting into power.


Doug BC
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For "JP,Montreal".I'm sorry to say you're right on a couple of points.But,if I could afford it,I'd love to visit Quebec.I was also part of the "my Canada includes Quebec" campaign.I stand by that position,and totally agree that trashing Quebec is inappropriate.
That said,I also believe other provinces need to have an equal voice.Most people in Quebec are not likely to be familiar with western views either.The difference is,that,under our current dysfunctional system,it only takes Ontario and Quebec to support the same party,and the rest of the provinces become instant colonies of central Canada.Out here,we truly believe that Canada as a whole,can be greatly improved by the creation of a legitimat Senate.It won't ever resolve all of the issues that divide us,but at least we would all know every region has been heard from.
This western Canadian has no desire to trash Quebec,or any of it's people.We are a lot like you.In fact,if this country ever does split,I think it will be the west that starts the ball rolling.
You're right.The Quebec bashing should be out of bounds.But,you should also not take in personally.I see just as much Alberta bashing on here.Is that OK? I don't think so.
I suggest that MOST of the bashing has it's roots in THE WAY we govern Canada.Not so much WHO.We want,and love our way of life just as much as you love and want yours.I have no desire to impose my values on Quebec.But I stand firm in opposing either Quebecers or Ontarians who want to impose central Canadian socialism on the entire nation.
You are very welcome to ANY form of government you can agree on in Quebec.I am asking for the same consideration for western Canadians.No more.No less.


Brett in Montréal
said
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You can clearly see the CONs in panic mode as the Liberals regain popularity and are consistently beating Harper in the Polls, it will be interesting to see how the spin masters try to poison the Ignatieff's image by now comparing him to the Taliban? This is getting ridiculous -- it's time someone spanked the CONs and put them back on notice -- there is an election coming and Harper will never have a majority. How stupid do they really think Canadians are?


What a disgrace
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Is he speaking for the Liberals, the Coalition, or the Bloc? Lie-b-ral translation - I will do anything and say anything to kiss up to Quebec. Take it from someone who actually was born and raised here, Iffy. Canada does not need Quebec, Quebec needs Canada. What a pompous arse. I will never vote Liberal again as long as this klingon is their puppet master.


The other lowell in BC
said
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Go Iggy. Your da man.


Jerry G Hart
said
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Yes lets all vote in Liberals and then all the bad guys will run free in our great country. They have no meat in their laws, let a killer kill and let them loose as soon as the Liberal appointed judges see them. Then they go out and kill again. The Liberals are full of it. We need laws in Canada that will stop all the BS going on. Drugs, Gangs, it is CRAPP. Yes I am from Alberta.


Wendy
said
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Finally a Canadian Politician that's there for Canada, honest good politics. He know the bloc is starting to dislike him, as the libs get more votes, but he doesn't care he's there for Canada unlike Harper who is there for votes. Harper is always going both ways, he wants to get harder on criminals but make it easier to get guns, by getting rid of the gun register. We have a strong economy, go gamble on the stock market. Good to see the liberals back with the most votes. Ignatieff will make Canada proud as our new Prime Minister


Roland godin
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Ignatieff vous dites à la majorité élu du Québec qu'ils ne sont pas les bienvenues au Canada. Ainsi vous dites à la majorité du Québec qu'ils ne sont pas les bienvenues parceque ce sont eux qui les ont élus démocratiquement. It's a song that they have heard again an again.


Rob
said
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Keep this up again and set Canada back another year in recovery. Quebec first, Canada last. Nothing ever changes.


Tono
said
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Let's start the reformation of the party by changing it to 'The Labour Party'.


Jerry G Hart
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What we as Canadians really need is a Political Party thay will listen to the voters that voted them into power. Not lip service. I am PC but things just don't get done with them as we want. The same can be said about Liberals. They had power for 13 straight years, (I might be wrong on the number of years), and they as Mr Harper do not do what we voted them in for, or want. All politicians are Liars and just want power. No wonder we have small turn outs at election time. I would vote any party that would listen to the people. Put your parties BS behind and remember that we as tax payers pay your wages, and are getting pretty up-set. Remember that when the line is crossed it is costly, Canadians are good tolerant folks, but watch out. Maybe a new party is needed. Call it the Peoples Party of Canada. Get rid of this old BS that is full of it. What do you think? By the way I do have a friend that is a MP in Ottawa a Cons and I would not even vote for him anymore. Just sick and tired of this BS.Mr Layton you are so far off the rock I do not think you know what reaility is anymore also. You are a very sick man as is your Party. Along with all the others.


Paul Stewart
said
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Brilliant move by Liberals under Ignatieff. That will help get the Quebec vote back into the Liberal fold.


davidk
said
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How are the quebec people and the Parti Quebcois any different thant Preston, Harper, Day and the Western Reform party? Both have only regional support, both are regional centric with a seperatist style agenda. I am sorry but truth and logic should prevail in comparing the stripes of the past (and it seems all the CONS that post here only look BACK ... not present or forward) I am neither party partisan, but maybe just maybe a leader who covers the country coast to coast promoting a strong CANADIAN value is what we really need to bring us back together


Jeff
said
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Wow nin05, that was awesome. So, the East is the only relevant part of Canada, except for BC? Do you know where BC is?

So what you're basically saying is that you don't like Alberta, which has been subsidizing you for the past 5 years to keep your province from bankruptcy. And Quebec.

If the Liberals take power, you may just get your wish. Without the conservatives in power, we may be closer to separation than Quebec, because we're tired of giving handouts.


Long memory in Cornwall
said
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So Iggy the Great and the Liberals are turning their attention back to Quebec...

Mebbe looking for a few Ad-Agencies to "invest" in once more!


Ray Jacques, Glen Robertson, ON
said
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Hi Folks,

I feel really badly when I read that Westerners feel that if a Liberal government should come to power, that they would be left out.

This is complete nonsense.
You live in a spectacularly beautiful part of Canada. You are Canadians, and even without your oil and tarsands, we easteners are very happy that you are in Canada !

I truly believe that a Centrist Liberal Government would be good for all of Canada, including the West.

Please have a look anew at the Liberal Party again. Instead of bashing them, write to them, ask for your priorities - I am sure that they will listen and respond positively.

Please know that you are not going to be left out in any way in spite of the population disparity of the different regions in Canada if Canadians elect a Liberal government next election.

Many of you write posts that Quebec will again have a voice in Ottawa, so can Western Canadians, but only if you participate in and with Liberals can you have a voice if the next election brings back the Liberals in government.

We need change
Let's work together for
a / the change


Andy Kanata
said
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It seems to me, that this guy has spent his entire time (since he was given the Liberal crown by his buddies) doing nothing but campaigning and complaining. As reported in this story, "-- he said all the right things and touched all the right buttons about unity and Quebec's place in Canada," said MacDonald. "It was a speech that was long on unity on rhetoric, but short on specifics." Long on rhetoric and short on specifics. The Liberals, since being kicked out of power for the shameful scandals they perpetrated, have done nothing but criticize the current government while offering nothing constructive - nothing at a time when cooperation is what Canadians want to see as we struggle through hard times. They are all about rhetoric and void of substance. If you were to follow Iggy around, you would see the same speech over and over again, just tailored for the specific audience - power for Quebec, equalization for East, a stronger voice for the west - all long on rhetoric and short on substance. I have not seen a single reason to vote Liberal since they were given the boot and I still see nothing of substance - no solutions, no vision, no grasp of reality. People are sick and tired of the same old song and dance. Either come up with a new act or fold up your tent.


Melanie Terrace,BC
said
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The vast majority of people I talk politics with don't like the bad mouthing of Quebec either.It's a bit sad that they can't debate the real issues without using out dated rhetoric and political spin.
However,it's equally sad the some people in Quebec take these derogatory comments seriously.I kind of wish we were all fluent in each others respective languages.It would be so much easier for us all to talk to each other,rather than be used by politicians who say one thing in Quebec,and something else in Alberta.I sincerely wish I could speak French.If I was able to,there are no people in Canada I would rather do on-line chat with more than those in Quebec.
It's not the people who are the problem,it's the people who call themselves leaders.I have several friends from Quebec.We get along very well,and love sharing everything.
Honestly,people who are anti Quebec are just as much an embarrassment as those who are anti USA.I think people who are alway "anti" anything are usually short of positive contributions to most discussions.
I am convinced of one thing,if anyone want accurate information,the last place to go is a politician.No matter which party he/she represents.


Dan in Edm
said
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Ignatieff has declared 'The red has returned' based on various opinion polls. We all know what happens on election day...The Bloc gets the most seats leaving the Liberals and the Tories with a handful of seats.


jay
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To Wendy
Please explain how you see his comments being there for canada.


Dave in Newington
said
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I have often wondered, with Quebec constantly threatening to seperate, if the rest of Canada had a referendum to vote if we all actually WANTED Quebec as part of Canada!

I bet that would terrify them all,including all the seperatists for playing them at their own game


RW
said
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La Bull Iggy...
Times of world turmoil, Libs rocking the boat for their party cause..at the Country's expense. Shameful...


Bruce
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A little gem from Iggy the unelected leader of the Liberals;

“It’s a noble bird because it has good family values. They stay together for 30 years. They lay one egg (each year). They put their excrement in one place. They hide their excrement.… They flap their wings very hard and they work like hell. This seems to me a symbol for what our party should be.”


CWS Saskatoon
said
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What does this man know about Canada? He spent most of his life out Canada and paid taxes to another country. Just one more arrogant windbag.


just another canadian
said
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So Iggy, "their place is in power" What current mps and provinces do not have a place in power.


Liberal Pork at it's Best
said
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Please let the Liberals win again - everything will go to Quebec, everyone not working will be eating steak, the auto industry will be up and running again producing product no one wants, the Liberal politicians and hanger ons will be fat with their faces in the trough, and you and me as normal taxpayers will be "so happy".

Must be off my drugs -


John Attas - Mississauga (Montreal, Vancouver)
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I think the film "Bon Cop - Bad Cop" should be required watching for anyone debating the Quebec - Canada issue. It captured the differences in attitude and culture between a Quebecer and an Ontarian. And they are different. As an anglo Quebecer who lived in Montreal (twice) Vancouver and Toronto, I have lived the differences. And am comfortable in both cultures (actually 3 - Quebec, Ontario and the west). There is no doubt that Quebecers ARE different. They ARE more leftist/socialist than the rest of Canada. But that does not mean they do not have many associations with Canada as well.

Hence Iggy's speech is right on the money, that they can be Quebecers AND Canadians at the same time. He understands that. An ex Quebecer who has lived in both cultures understands that. And it is a pity that a lot of the bloggers do not.

Quebecers do not want to separate. But they do want recognition that the culture IS different, hence their approach to many issues remains different. The trick to as successful Canadian leader is to use the best of both cultures to come up with a synthesis that sure, may be a compromise, but is more than the some of its parts.

Small-mindedness belongs in the last millenium.


Rob
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To David Williams, PHD...
PHD in basket weaving I'd say...
Iggy is about Canadian as a Palm Tree.
He is being led by the Lib party by the nose, same deal as Dion. At least Dion new what hockey was...even if he could not score on a kid...
Libs selling snake oil cures again...maybe Quebecers will buy some...but not fooling most Canadians. Time to rehaul the Lib party, not just the leader. Get back into the center, way to far to the left right now...like a fat NDP party.
If they time it right, as the world is recovering from turmoil, they may squeak by the tories...instead of a coup like they planned Christmas time.
For now, I'm happy with Harper...if only he would stop treating NF like a third class of people....


Art
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It sounds like you conservatives are a little fearful of Ignatieff. If Quebecers decide to go back to the liberal party there is no chance of there ever being a Conservative majority and little chance of another Conservative minority.


Frank
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Ignatieff has said out loud what everyone already suspected. The Liberals think that only Quebec is capable of producing leaders, and the real Canada are just going to play along. How terribly offensive and shameful.


albertaclipper
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Ray Jacques, Glen Robertson, ON
"Hi Folks,

I feel really badly when I read that Westerners feel that if a Liberal government should come to power, that they would be left out.

This is complete nonsense".

Thanks for your kind words Jacques and for calling our thoughts and beliefs NONSENSICAL.


Gary-London
said
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The Liberals have returned to Quebec have they? Ignatieff is ignoring the rest of the country while he kisses-up to Quebec voters. When did you last see the Liberal party dedicate so much time and resources to any of our other 9 provinces? If I get my wish this will make two parties exclusive to Quebec.


Jay-TO
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Obvious Iggy is a serious threat to conservatives. Just look through comments here and in responding to Iggy's speech conservatives are assaulting Quebecois and their language rights, attacking him on things shared by Harper himself. Calling him an American. Well act least he talks to Canadians unlike Harper who only speaks on CNN to Americans. Go figure.

I think the concern should be more about Harper. Its been three years and what has he done that a few piece of legislation couldn't overturn? He's a do nothing PM and he's been found out. We have fallen backward on economic issues which are supposed to be the only things conservatives are good at and they had to turn to Keynes. LOL, There is NO conservatism left in Canada just a bunch angry people dreaming of the 1950's.


barryh
said
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are these comments coming from ctv readers or fox news?right wingers are so blind to how terrible a job the cons are doing!Im also tired of this anti-american feeling about iggy..he had DUAL citizenship AND paid taxes in respective countries..get your facts right before a diatribe of nonsense pours from your collective mouths..


Marie
said
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Now if we could only relay the same message to Albertans to see themselves as Canadians first and foremost.


Ryan , ontario
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Quebec can be part of the current conservative government, last time i checked they were still welcome. they have 10 conservative mp's in government and several senators , some of those mp's are in cabinet . they are by no ways out in the cold and not part of this government .
quebec does not need the bloc or the liberals , they allready are welcome in the current conservative government .


C J
said
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Only in Canada could an american (IGGY STARDUST) be elected Prime minister.
What a Joke, Shame on you people who Fall for this crap.
More LIBERAL DISTRUCTION.
Enough said


R
said
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I am still waiting for the Liberal Party to apologize for the sponsorship scandal. Until that happens, how can we trust what they have to say or do. Harper had the guts and honor to apologize to our first nations people for abuses committed by past governments, mostly Liberals. So, Iggy, instead of telling Quebec voter's what they want to hear, why don't you tell Canadian voter's what they need to hear.


Patricia
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I hope that the Liberal colour red keeps spreading across the country and pushes the blue Tories off the map.


Mike
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I think I'll take Iggy over the indecisive Harper. All Harpo has done while in power is react to situations, often after its too late to influence ecomonic change. We need a leader that will react before things become a crises. Harper didn't even believe we were in recession during the election campaign!!


Jay-To
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Jeff you have a very short and highly selective memory. Before Alberta destroyed its environment and before oil was even profitable from the tarsands, please tell me about Alberta of that time and how it survived? Where did its money come from? Who do you think kept the province afloat while it tinkered with Eugenics?


Dayton
said
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The "RED ARMY" isn't that who "TEAM CANADA" was up against in the 70's?


James
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I wonder if Liberal Leader Michael Ignatieff would like Quebec to sign the Constitution?

The Conservative Party of Canada recognizes Quebec as an important part of Canada and has a strong historical Heritage within Canada.

Prime Minster Stephen Harper, I believe is committed to the inclusion of Quebec in Canada and representation in Parliament.
Our Prime Minster also speaks French very well and understands the need for Quebec to remain a part of Canada.


Alysha Ont
said
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"Quebecers deserve to be in power in Ottawa" says Iggy. Since when does Quebec want to be even a part of Canada because they want to seperate and this clown is practically promising them a poaition in power ! Iggy better get his head on straight or get out of this wonderful country where he has not lived nor paid taxes for 30 years! We all know Quebec wants only what's good for Quebec and not for Canada! Iggy best get his blinders off ! This just proves how little he knows about this country of ours.


Bruce
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Here's another little gem from Iggy the unelected leader of the Liberals;

“Creating strong, capable states is a more important goal than solving global warming, ending poverty or fixing the North-South divide because strong states will be able to solve these problems directly. Canada’s priority should be to assist in strengthening states rather than simply provide aid to poor countries.”


Golf Company Grunt
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<<>>

Hmmm, I always thought Quebec was part of Canada. I must get a new atlas!

'Pro Patria'


WCHermit
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Some good posts on here, notably Melanie, Terrace, JP Montreal, Mark L, Jerry G Hart and others as well. Also a bunch of rhetoric crap just taking up space. I wish the CTV could separate the good stuff from the junk and make it easier to get through the posts.
Now, who can I vote for? Seems to me that I have been voting "against" instead of "for". That is living in the negative instead of where I should be living.
Yes, a new centrist party would be very welcome to me. The Liberals are the closest to center but they have a lot of bad baggage with them. Difficult for me to forget what Trudeau, Cretchen and Martin did in the past. The NDP, who I supported for years, under Layton is not an option for me. I really dislike the person. The Consevatives don't seem to have an agenda older than two days. Kind of flopping around like a fish in a net. Doesn't give me much hope for any success in dealing with present day circumstances.

So people "Who do I vote for"?


Victor
said
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Recession.

If the opposition party can't make up ground during this time than something isn't normal.

However, I still don't feel the Liberals can do any better than distant second. The Conservatives have really become a party that can be elected time and time again, as the Liberals can't win west of Ontario.

Conservatives will gain some Bloq votes, and may just send those seats to the Conservatives.


Marg
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To those of you who say" what has Harper done since in power?", keep in mind (if you have one!!!) that it has been a MINORITY government, and alot of things that they have wanted to implement have been voted down by the opposition. Also keep in mind that the Liberals had Majority governments for many years, and accomplished what exactly? Higher taxes, sponsorship scandals,cutting the military,oh and let's not forget the money from the EI fund. I could go on and on. Why didn't they do some of the things that they are ranting about now, they had lots of time!!!!!!

And NO, this is not about the polls showing the Liberals ahead, the only poll that counts is on election day!!!!!


PepperPot
said
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To the guy who states that Ignatieff will make a great PM. Good life - his new best friend is Lying Brian Mulroney, his main man is Chretien's crony Kinsella, he calls himself an American and cowtows up to the rich and famous. What a man, ADSCAM 2 HERE WE COME


robert dunning
said
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some posters are actually saying the libs are national. if you mean Atlantic Canada and Toronto as national i guess you must be right. but instead so so wrong as usual.


kenneth H Young
said
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I couldn't care less.
There is no choice between the Liberals and conservatives.
I am a Veteran and so Veterans issues mean a lot to me.
Harper has done nothing for the Veterans and Michael Ignatieff has so far has refused to comment on what he would do for Veterans.
CFB Gagetown' s 29 year Toxic Chemical Defoliation Program comes to mind.
Claw Back of Pensions on reaching age 65 comes to mind as do dozens of other Veterans' problems.
Both of Canada's main parties built or ordered these problems to occur.
Time one of them fixed the problems, or is it time to vote for other party's?


jt
said
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Jay-TO
As for saying harper only speaks on cnn.He was on ctv a few months ago and other canadian outlets.


RED IS DEAD ....
said
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The world doesn't need one more red socialist under Maoist, Communist or Ignatieff Liberal banners.

Socialism has destroyed our society, destroyed our collective morality and destroyed pour traditions and Canadian heritage in favour of this foolish "politically correct" banter which rarely includes any common sense or well though out rationale.



Arnold Murphy
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I am a western Canadian and a former, nomination candidate, policy chair and board member of the Conservative party. It was with great sadness I left the organization, but the enlightenment I received upon leaving was life changing. The problem with the Conservative party and Harper is that they are dividers, they are liars, and they are self serving. Seeing a man of Mr. Ignatieff's credentials, poise, intelligence and capacity become Prime Minister would be a step forward in this country, sometimes we have to take a step or two backward in order to move forward and I believe this is what we have done with Harper. Good luck to the Liberal party in the next election, it is time for progressive change.


Drew in NS
said
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The Steal Red machine is back!!! We stole Taxpayers money, we stole National pride from the people, stole Canada's effectiveness on the world stage. And for his own personal gain the party was more than happy to put democracy aside and let Ignatieff steal the Liberal leadership.

Pat yourself on the backs guys, you deserve none of it.


Michael (Ottawa)
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@Ray Jacques, Glen Robertson, ON

Your Obama chant of Yes we can is non sense here in Canada. That sort of rhetoric and your agenda is not welcomed here in Canada now that we have a decent Conservative government in power. Maybe you should move to Calif if you want to chant that Yes we can stuff. Times have changed - FOR THE GOOD!


Brian In Sarnia
said
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Imagine what our country would be like with a PM who actually tries to unite Canadians instead of driving wedges between regions as Harper has done. I'm starting to like Ignatieff.


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