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Date: Thu. Feb. 19 2009 7:39 PM ET

Liberal Leader Michael Ignatieff got the 30 minutes he wanted with President Barack Obama Thursday.

Ignatieff said that "serious business" was accomplished in his meeting with Obama, and they spoke about hot topic issues such as Afghanistan and U.S. trade protectionism.

It is protocol for foreign dignitaries to meet with the Official Opposition when they visit Canada.

Ignatieff told CTV News that Obama expressed his concern about Afghanistan, and thought the mission was "drifting."

The Liberal leader hinted that his party may not insist that Canada honour its pledge to withdraw troops from Afghanistan by 2011.

He said a 2011 withdrawal is his party's "current" position but said if Obama convinced Prime Minister Stephen Harper to stay longer, he would cross that bridge when it happens.

Obama said he did not press Harper to extend the Afghan mission.

However, Ignatieff said he thought the most interesting part of his conversation with Obama was regarding the president's attempts to work with Republicans in Washington.

"I said to him that one of the things that inspires me about him is that he's trying to get above partisanship and reach across the aisle," Ignatieff said.

Bob Rae, Liberal MP for Toronto-Centre and one of Canada's most well-known politicians, seemed as excited about Obama's visit as ordinary Canadians were.

Rae, who attended the meeting, said he was "struck by how down to earth" Obama was and said that president made eye-contact with everyone.

"I think it's fair to say that we were charmed by Obama. It's hard not to be," Rae said.

Ignatieff seemed equally smitten by the charismatic American, calling Obama a "political genius."

The Liberal leader, who graduated from Harvard and later taught there, noted that Harvard-alum Obama and he had mutual friends.

"He was even kind enough to say he read a few of my books," Ignatieff, a prolific author, said.

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Shy
said

I was I guessed you could say pleased that Bob Rae attended. I don’t think Iggy can represent his own party much less Canada. I believe Rae would have done a good job.


Z. Led
said

He got 30 minutes according to Rae. I'm sure his watch is probably busted


Jean Leblanc Montreal
said

Great leader Barak Obama. Stephen Harper what a control freek, where was the minister of national defense Peter Mackay? Harper shuts all the great minds. He agreed with Bush's - Iraq! See the mess the US economy is! He( Harper) has depleted the federal surplus in 18 months. Time to replace Harper. President Obama you are most welcome in Canada.


Devin from Alberta
said

He's not even an representative of Canada. The people didn't vote for him!

Why does he get to talk to Obama?

Sure Ignatieff, you spend 3/4 of your life outside Canada, then decide to come back and lead the Liberal party. You don't care for this country, you make me sick.

Ki-Som Victoria BC
said

If Mr. Harper could have his way, Mr. Ignatieff, wouldn't even been allow to have the 30 minutes in the first place.


Sarah Palin
said

Glad to see Iggy got some time. The tradition set by both the Conservatives and the Liberals are carried forward. Wise move on Harper's behalf. The time allowed maybe a little bit stretched considering the short stay, but Harper would score well for being generous. Now everybody seems to be happy except the Conservative grassroots who don't seem to understand what politics is all about. Harper avoided an embarrassing confrontation by limiting Obama's exposure to the opposition leader. Is already bad enough for Obama to meet Iggy at the airport hanger. Obama does not want to be used as a pawn in Canadian politics. I think Harper made a wise move, or was it Obama's idea?


Steve in Ottawa
said

Prime Minister Harper did an excellent job at the news conference with President Obama. As Prime Minister, he covered the issues, and spoke on behalf of the country. He brought forward the Canadian position directly. President Obama has made Afghanistan a key plank in his policy and noted that Canada is a key player in this fight. To have Mr. Ignatieff go and lobby to end the involvement in Afghanistan and then bring up Guantanamo Bay, which is an American issue that has nothing to do with Canada, only adds confusion to what had been a successful visit. Mr. Ignatieff has to learn to keep his arrogance to himself and stop interfering in everything. He is an Opposition leader, but his Opposition is in Canada, not the US. Our relationship with our largest trading partner (and source of most of our income) is too important to let this self aggrandizing, back room appointed politician damage.


mario
said

with all the political grandstanding about how the PMO would control how much time Iggy got with Obama, I am happy to see some respect being given to our political structure, it's also concerning to see Harper lose face again. I have the feeling his time is limited.


john from the west
said

Why was Bob Rae at the meeting, was it to make sure he didn't pull a Stefan Stupid. I don't know if Bob Rae should be trusted or not, I think he would just as soon stick it to Ignatieff if he thought that he could get away with it. Maybe President thought that Bob Rae was the wonderful Stefan.


Zip it Reformer/Conservative supporter
said

Re to Devin From Alberta,

It is tradition! Educate yourself and educate your fellow albertan friends before you shooting your conservative rethortic!

Reformer Party supporter is destorying Canada!

Harper did same when Bush came!

Zip it Reformer ppl!


John in Calgary
said

I don't understand why the leader of the opposition is having private meetings with a foreign leader. What is the point of having a Prime Minister if anybody can have meetings with a foreign leader? Isn't there a chain of command?




Buba
said

Obama was probably more interested in what Iggy had to say than what Harper espoused. They are more similar in policy and background than the oil-slicked Prime Minister.


Amar
said

Wasn't Iggy embarrassed that he was "for" sending Canadian Troops to Iraq?


Raj
said

It's a tradition. nothing more, nothing less.I know what I saw today with PM Harer & Obama, it was wonderful.


Alberta Girl
said

My Goodness - do you people really believe that Stephen Harper sets Obama's schedule!!!!!

Do a bit of research about the white house aide who laughed when the reporter asked him about Ignatieff's time!!

Grow up people.


Former conservative
said

To Devin from Alberta: Because Obama is the PotUS, and if he wants to talk to Ignatieff, then Harper can pout and make all the temper tantrum he wants, Obama will talk to Ignatieff and (apparently) for as long as he wishes.
Sheesh, it's amazing to see how upset the Harperbots can get when they can't control everything. Try to not cry yourself to sleep tonight because Obama gave more or less the same time to both leader.



said

Where does your contempt for Ignatieff come from? Why are you so afraid of him? So what if he hasn't lived in Canada all of his life...does that make him any less qualified to lead a political party? In fact, I would think that living in different areas and differing cultures would enrich someone's character.

And...he IS a big part of Canadian politics. Remember, our's is a different system than the U.S. Harper would have been stupid to deny the opposition a word with President Obama.

Clearly, some Neo cons are running scared now that Ignatieff is holding the reins...are you one of them?


mario
said

HOW ABOUT YOU CONSERVATIVES PAY ATTENTION TO CANADIAN TRADITIONS!!! Of all people you should know this!!!

IT'S CANADIAN TRADITION that leaders visiting Canada meet briefly with the leader of the opposition!!!!

not very proud Canadian at the moment!
said

Wasn't this an official visit leader to leader? Why was Iggy there? Any argument would then have the leaders of the official coalition having their private meetings as well. Only in Canada...Eh!

Robert
said

To Zip it reformer

Devin is correct! Iggy has not been elected as leader of the Liberal party and has not lived in Canada for a very large portion of his life. If you dispute these facts, then please, prove them wrong. In addition, any data you advance will make a better impression if you first learn how to spell, and secondly, find another name for yourself. Your title displays an very open bias.


Liberal Lover
said

Ignatieff gets to talk to Obama as Harper got to talk to Bush when Harper was leader of the opposition. DUH!

Harper does not speak on behalf of this country. He speaks on behalf of those who elected him in to office. That's the type of politician he is. ONE DIMENSIONAL!

Not everyone gets to have a private meeting with the President. If that was the case, the President would here for months.

Gotta love the Liberal bashing that continues on this website. NOT!!!!!


Phil
said

Good to see the leader laying the groundwork for what will be a long and productive relationship between the US President and the next Canadian PM.


Phil in Markham
said

Let's see.
Iggy lived mostly in the States.
Didn't get elected by the canadian people.
Got appointed not elected as Liberal leader.
And somehow thinks he is entitled to speak on our behalf. What a joke, I guess it's back to the Liberal entitlement to power mentality.


Alberta Girl
said

"They are more similar in policy and background than the oil-slicked Prime Minister."

Um Buba - you are wrong. Do some research, educated yourself, quit listening to the "We love Iggy" press and you might be surprised to find out that Harper and Obama are actually much more closely attuned than Mikey could ever hope to be.

Hopefully you will actually take the time and learn something so you don't sound like you are spouting talking points put out by the Liberal party and their cohorts in the media


Dayton
said

Is Iggy trying to sell books? He didn't look so happy in his press meeting. Maybe Michelle clued Obama in on the attempted Coup signed on by Iggy. Harper served us well and I think Iggy knows who Obama prefers to work with. Too bad so sad try again next visit Iggy.


Pedro
said

Not only did Mr. Harper meet with the US prez when opposition leader, as prime minister he made a very concerted effort to meet with John Tory, provincial Conservative opposition leader - not long before an election. If Mr. Harper's representing the interests of all Canadians, he would make sure that not only partisan views are heard.


mike from bc
said

Wow, so does this mean that Iggy finally accomplished something? And perhaps he will stop whining (for at leas 24 hours anyway).


Ravinder
said

Iggy makes me ill!

This guy is such a loser.

PM Harper was brilliant today in the joint press conference!

Rav


Athlaos III
said

This is what I hear people on the street saying: "Blah blah blah, I hate the Prime Minister. Blah blah blah, I hate Iggy. Blah blah blah, I hate everybody!!! Except for Obama, of course."


Bryn Hendricks
said

Really? We are arguing about the extra 10 or 15 minutes Iggy got? And judging form the comments, we are actually arguing not just about the fact that he got this time, but what he was allowed to discuss? Give me a break. In these times, can we afford for anything less than major political leaders discussing the issues that matter? Obama-Ignatieff, Obama-Harper, Obama-Rae... I wish there were time for more people to speak with Obama.


Alberta Girl
said

"HOW ABOUT YOU CONSERVATIVES PAY ATTENTION TO CANADIAN TRADITIONS!!! Of all people you should know this!!!"

Gee Mario - it may be "tradition" but I don't think it is "tradition" to stamp your feet and pout and demand that you have more time and then have the audacity to try to blame that time allotment on the PMO when it is a well known fact that the PMO does NOT set the schedule for the POTUS - I would say your anger should be directed at the White House staff.

But then, that would mean acknowledging that Iggy actually was acting like a petulant little child.



swift current kid
said

He needed 30 hours to fill Harpers shoes.


S
said

I agree with you Devin from Alberta! All these people who are so disgruntled over the PM need to give their head a shake. We are in the best standing position in the world, I think that has something to do with what the PM has done the past few years. Is he perfect... NO! But news flash for all you Obama lovers... neither is HE! He too is just a man who will....SURPRISE... make mistakes too!!! Sorry to break it to you.


Dale
said

Devon from Alberta.

The people of Ignatieff's riding elected him just like the people of Harper's riding elected him. Harper was not elected by all the people of Canada. They are both elected as Members of Parliament. As leader of their respective parties they are the PM and leader of the Opposition. It's how our Parliament works.


Lib
said

Rae & Ignatieff sound more like two love struck groupies than Leaders within their political party. Hopefully neither of these two puppys peed on the President's shoes.


Mel from Calgary
said

Obama went to Harvard, Ignatief taught at Harvard and Bob Rae is a Rhodes scholar. Stephen Harper has a masters degree from the University of Calgary.

Who has the most in common.

Iggy got 30 minutes because it was a stimulating conversation.


dave
said

What a bunch of idiots in this thread...

John in Calgary, the people of Canada are represented by the House of Commons. We do not have any elected leader. Harper is not a monarch. Ideally, Obama would meet with the entire House of Commons. Instead, by tradition foreign leaders meet with the PM and the leader of the opposition.

Get a clue.


Mike - Ottawa
said

Devin, the people of Canada didn't vote for Stephen Harper either...the people in his riding did...just as the people in Ignatief's riding voted for him. Seems you're confused by the American system...if that were the case, I'm afraid Stephen Harper would not be our Prime Minister.


kate
said

No one is afraid of Iggy, the fact is he was not elected to be leader of the liberals. He may have been born here but he hasn't lived here for decades and given his 'royal' blood, he doesn't have a clue what the average Canadian is going through. Quite frankly I find him arrogant and he will never get my vote. I've read some of his writing, including his unfailing support for Bush and the Neo-Cons and I just don't trust him. His support for Kadar and the auto bailout against the majority of Canadian taxpayers wishes isn't impressive either. Harper may not be an Obama but given the alternatives I will go with the devil I know.


Concerned citizen
said

Obama. The thing is the Liberals would have you believe otherwise but Harper is right of Ignatieff and Obama is still right of Harper. So I guess canadians are right wing after all seeing as how popular he is. You do realize he is against gay marriage and for more troops in the stan dont you?


Jimmy Flatulence
said

Now can we send Stevie the Liar to jail for attempted bribery ??? Geeez, haven't we waited long enough for JUSTICE ??? Oh, this is the Conservative Television Network. Not much chance this will get by. Every one at CTV thinks they will win the lottery like Duffy did.


Kila
said

I didn't like Ignatieff getting face time either, but they said it was normal protocol. I certainly don't want him as PM.
Harper has the 2+ years in now, and I think he will work better with Obama than his prior choice of Prez. Give him the chance to improve I think. And he will.


Dusty Woman
said

Buba...Iggy, up until he returned to Canada 3 years ago had absolutely nothing in common with Obama's policies. Iggy was a republican supporter, an Iraq supporter (until 2 years ago), supports torture and before all that he was a Thatcher boy in England and was in favour of busting unions. Iggy will say anything he thinks will help get him elected as P.M. of the country he shunned for 36 years (which means he paid no taxes to support this country either).


Ronaldo
said

Mr. Ignatieff...your tactics are disgusting and irresponsible. You had absolutely no business putting your face out there with the visiting leader of the U.S. in any way, shape or form. Your patent partisanship to do anything you can to usurp the Prime Minister's proper place and duties is disgraceful and you Liberals disgust me who advocate this childish behaviour. Your going way overboard and I hope the Canadian public sees this for what it truly is. Why didn't you bring the rest of the Coalition with you as well.


Dave in Surrey
said

When the PM of Canada visits another government that is parliamentary rule, the PM also visits with the offical opposition...

Just like if Harper goes to Washington he would meet with the Senate Majority Leader and the Senate Minority Leader...

Anyone who does not see that is how life works, really does not understand politics and how to build relationships...

Rae was invited by Iggy because Iggy has respect for his partners... MacKay was not invited because Harper won't let him talk...


Nobody forced Obama to talk to anybody.
said

Obama probably wanted to talk to Ignatieff and Rae because the US knows that Harper will not be Prime Minister for more than another few months.

The world is no longer neo-con. It has switched back to neo-lib.

Don't worry, it's not really a change, just more sneaky.




Yes, John in Calgary, you don't understand.
said

Of course you don't understand.

There must be something in the air in Alberta, maybe pollution from gas flares, or just those fools on the radio.




Andrea
said

it was good for Obama to come to Ottawa because there was lots of confusion in the air. I do not know why people say Obama is conservative because most of the things he says are more geared towards people to the centre.

Obama is Obama!


DWR
said

That is too bad now the US President knows what an dork he is. Dose any one think that if Iggy ever gets elected that President Obama will want to speak to him again. I know I wouldn't. So much for improving Canada US relations.



Obama wanted to talk to intelligent people
said

after he finished with Harper.




L
said

So Iggy whined until he got what he wanted. Typical Liberal.


Joyce.
said

Regardless of one's support to whatever Party, seems to me some people think Conservatives are ignorant to the Canadian Tradition, which is far from the truth for alot of us, whether they vote lIBERAL CONSERVATIVE NDP ETC. Think before accusing others of something which you know nothing about, whether they do or don't.
I agree tradition in Canada should be observed not only in Politics, but also in Traditions which are Canadian, which need to be preserved for those who have lived here all their lives and for those who wish to be part of this Country.
I do feel that Obama's visit was good, as long as it was keeping trade in mind and the World Economy and our Trade with the USA, and not buying USA which was legislated to be so, as this violates the Free Trade Act.


NA
said

Wow....lame.

We are supposed to make a big deal because the leader of the opposition got *gasp* 30 mins with the Pres? How pathetic. If this is what is news, god help us all.

Who cares who spoke to Pres Obama or for how long? You are all acting like 5 year olds in Kindergarten.


J. Gaudet
said

Are you kidding me! Your headline is, "Ignatief gets 30 mins. with Obama." Who cares! What about the fact that Harper spent all day with him and received invaluable face time in the press conference, began a relationship where they we obviously comfortable with each other, did some important business for the country Instead, some old man meets Obama at the airport when Obama is leaving, drops names all over the place and trys to relate with someone decades younger. What, did Ignatief help Obama with his coat. Unbelievable!


Proud Canadian in Vancouver
said

Most of the posters on this article have missed the point. Mr. Obama is gracious enough to spend as much time as he can with all the leaders in Canada. He is an example for everyone to follow as he attempts to work towards a better NORTH AMERICA!

I wish the silly political posturing and rhetoric would just subside for a while and the leaders of our country on both sides of the fence would work together to put Canada back to work, back in the black and restore the confidence that has completely eroded in the past 9 months.

Liberal, NDP, Conservative, right now I don't really care. Work together to make the necessary repair instead of criticizing each other incessantly PLEASE!



Alan
said

It's been a great day and it was wonderful to see especially the Governor General meeting with the President. Then one looks at the silly statements being made here and realizes just how juvenile much of our populace can be. I think comments from Grade 8 students would be more thought out. These are serious times we are in and the conclusions or statements people come up with are so ill thought out it is frightening.


CJ (Vancouver)
said

It is Parliamentary tradition that the Head of State for a Foreign Country meet with her Majesty's Official Opposition as when Mister Harper met with the President Bush when he was the Official Opposition Leader in 2004.

If this is a Canadian tradition then yes only in Canada "Eh".


jaque
said

I imagine Layton is sobbing in his beer now. Don't worry, Jack. Someday you'll come to your senses, give up the phony socialism and get a chance to talk with the big boys.


Zip it double standard
said

Re to Robert:

Party set its own rule and if you don't like it. You can simply ask your local MP to address this to House of common.

Iggy lived outside of Canada don't matter as I thought Canadian is Canadian no matter where you go in your life. He is Canadian and very smart one which is good enough for me to vote for him.

Learn how to spellll.... Um. pardon me since English is my second language and that is VERY CANADIAN OF ME! LOL


Mike from Canmore
said

FANTASTIC!!!!

Obama got to visit both the outgoing and income Prime Ministers. This is good. Let's speed up the process however as "time's a wasting"...

Go Red Wings!


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