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Date: Wed. Jan. 28 2009 9:39 PM ET

Working with speed usually unseen by politicians in Washington, a Democratic-controlled House of Representatives approved President Barack Obama's US$819 billion economic stimulus plan Wednesday evening.

The vote was 244-188.

Obama said his country is at a "perilous moment" which required swift and decisive action.

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi declared a new era has begun in Washington, just more than a week after Obama took office.

"The ship of state is difficult to turn," the California Democrat said. "But that is what we must do. That is what President Obama called us to do in his inaugural address."

Despite intense lobbying by Obama, Republican representatives spurned the bill, saying it relied too much on spending and not on tax cuts.

The bill includes about US$544 billion in government spending and US$275 billion in tax cuts for individuals and businesses.

It includes infrastructure money for highways and mass transit. Other measures include moves in unemployment benefits, health care and food stamp increases.

The package will now head to the Senate, where Obama hopes it will get more Republican support.

"I'm confident we're going to get it passed," he said.

Obama met with business CEOs Wednesday and left the meeting saying all "left our meeting confident that we can still turn our economy around."

Unemployment is at its highest levels in the U.S. in about 25 years and the banking industry is in a perilous situation despite the billions of dollars already funneled their way.

"Another week that we delay is another 100,000 or more people unemployed. I don't think we want that on our consciences," Democrat Rep. David Obey, chairman of the House Appropriations Committee and a leading proponent of the legislation, said.

Experts say the bill may not look quite the same after it goes to the Senate.

Jim McTague, the Washington editor of Barron's Financial Weekly told CTV Newsnet that Senate Democrats will face pressure from both Republicans and the more conservative members of their own party.

"It won't be a slam dunk because there are a lot of fiscally conservative Democrats in the Senate," he said. "I think the bill will be tweaked in the Senate."

Following the vote, Obama invited House and Senate leaders from both parties to join him at the White House for get-to-know-each-other drinks.  

With files from The Associated Press

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Bernard Romanycia
said

Exactly how does printing more money pay off the trillions in debt? Is this some kind of new black magic accounting system?
This plan doesn't seem to add up to anything but future inflation. When the world figures out that the United States can not service it's debt we should see the Dollar sink faster than the Twin Towers on 9 11.


Michelle
said

I hope Canadians don't look to the States and think that they can compare stimulus spending. They are a different animal all together. For starters tax breaks allow Americans to better afford private health care and education. More people paying their own way on those things should reduce the amount government has to spend on public health and education. That is not the case here. Tax cuts just means we are less able to pay for our public health and education systems with no real ability to purchase private services.



Jim S. Winnipeg
said

We already know the US is bankrupt. Sadly, anyone and any country owning US debt will eventually be left holding useless paper...then watch the world fall into a decades long depression.
Republicans are largely responsible. They still think tax cuts are the answer. Thats like the average person saying that, while I make less now I will spend more so I can keep my job and, since I will be deeper in debt, no problem. My kids can pay off the debt. Talk about financial mismanagement. Obama is wrong to. The dollars in the stimulus package need to go directly to people to live and pay their mortgages and rent. This being the case, the banks will get their money monthly rather than have the ability to squander it as has been the case, stores and factories will stay open since people are spending.And the stimulus package can be much less. Let the money trickle up for a change. Republican trickle down has never worked except for the wealthy. And of course the millionaire senators and opportunistic representitives.
How do you get the money into the hands of ordinary people? Simple. Have a personal income tax moritorium for 60 days for those who make less than $100k. This frees up real spending dollars. The reduced revenue to the government will be offset by the reduced stimulus dollar amount and increased corporate and sales tax revenue. And oh, people can work, eat, shop and pay bills and still stay in their home. And the banks get their outstanding loans paid. The economy rebounds and then the US can balance its budget and begin to get out of bankruptcy.


Chris
said

I hope the U.S.A. has fully addressed the causes of this recession and is prepared for future expenses involving veterans and seniors, as well as the possibility that China may stop loaning the U.S.A. money.

Bush's tax cuts to the rich and his war in Iraq cost billions of dollars, not to mention the years of weak financing standards.

The U.S.A. debt-to-GDP ratio is already at about 50%

The U.S.A. could stand for "Ultimate Spending Addict"


Gordon in Sarnia
said

This is not the end of the American Empire.......but it may very well be the beginning of the end of the American Empire.


Red X
said

Hey, that is 40 times the stimulus the Conservatives are putting into our economy.
Hopefully some of that money trickles into the Cdn GDP. Probably, more helpful than the makeshift reno and infrastructure apps for the work till 2010?!


Graeme
said

Wow I really hope this is all just in response to the recession and not the way Obama truly wants to table a budget.

Democrats always get a bad rap for "tax and spend" but Clinton was probably the most fiscally responsible president the US had seen in years. Republicans (or Conservatives in Canada) always start out anti-deficit but eventually they fall into the trap of continuously cutting taxes without an equal cut to services and we end up in deficit. Tax cuts are good, but deficit spending is just what I call a "coward's tax hike".

But now we may have no choice for a few years.


Doug BC
said

Canadians had better hope the economic stimuli of other nations do work.We will see no recovery until we can start exporting our products once again.I agree with "Michelle" that the USA and Canada are different stories.We are the "nanny state".We have people lining up for handouts,while the USA has people looking for jobs so they can pay for the things they use.

I see Iceland is already in bankrupcy.Both the UK and the USA are struggling to fix their problems,and what are we doing?? At the did agree to help by a stimulus packeage worth 2% of GDP.I don't like the deficits,but remember,before all this unfolded,the Conservative party was the ONLY party commited to aggressive debt reduction in Canada.A very wise path to take.Since I am not fond of Mr.Harper,but the Liberals are far worse.They wanted to spend even more of the budget surpluses we recently had.

Yes "Michelle".Sadly I have to agree.There is a distinction between Americans and Canadians.In the USA,people ask "what can I do for my country"? In Canada we ask "what can I get "free" from my government"?
How sad for us.And how sad it will be when the numer of Canadians standing in line for freebies becomes longer than the lines of people who work hard,and have to pay for those freebies.
Socializing health care and some education is a reasonable compromise from real Conservatives.Sadly,it has encouraged the very lewft wing social engineers to try to socialize every aspect of our societies.In that environment,with sky high taxes and a 65 cent dollar,there is no incentive to work hard or improve your earning capacity.That's why we have a "brain drain".The ones who want freebies stay here,those doctors and well educated go where they can keep more of their earnings.


Doug BC
said

"Chris" is right about the USA debt-GDP ratio of 50% +.
In Canada,that ratio is now at 28%.The lowest in the G7.
We need less in real dollars for a stimulus for a couple of reason.We are starting a better position to start with.But even more importantly,our economy is so small that we cannot have an impact on the global economy,where our exports fuel our economy.
Oddly,now that more people are realizing how much our prosperity depends on our exports,there is less noise from the Anti USA crowd.How is that? Did you get laid off because Americans aren't buying the cars you make or the lumber you mill?
Wake up people.A healthy USA is a good thing for Canada.And yes,we can be friendly,without being submissive.Though,it would be helpful if we could continue to reduce our debt and find other options for our exports.
Debt is a much bigger threat to our sovereignty than any other single threat.
But we all need to know that only our domestic economy can be improved by any stimulus in Canada.And it is only 25% of our GDP.


Gail (Hamilton)
said

Obama should be confident with a majority Congress and Senate. This ploy of spend, spend, spend, is political to keep the "progressive" Democrats in power for years, and if the Republicans ever get back into power, the damage will be done - so no more tax cuts can be offered. He's a magician and pied piper with his eloquent speaking, and will have government run industries and union growth. CEO's know this and the layoffs will continue. The successful people will be the losers in all this mess. More Americans are voicing their distrust of their main media because of blatant worship of a man they don't want to fail. Voices of dissent will soon try to be stifled by the government as I listen to US radio, and freedom of speech will apply only to the "progressives".


Kevn in Alberta
said

I have heard enough of Obama to last me a couple life times! He shouldn't of wasted 200mill on that stupid train ride. Get ready for Socializm.


Andrea
said

To Michelle,

I have a cousin who works in the USA govt, and she just happens to be a graduate from Harvard University, with a Masters Degree from a public Health field, and believe me, they are making changes to their education and health care system.

But I also agree, there is a difference from the USA and Canada. USA is super power and needs the bailouts, where as Canada's economy is in better shape.

What our govt should be doing is investing, and not bailing Companies like Nortel out. Also be looking at renewable energies.


Piroska-San Diego
said

I wonder if there would be a better advantage if he divided this Stimuli package evenly among all voters as opposed to giving it to the business' that seem to take advantage of these funds by giving themselves bonus' on "this free money"


James from Canada
said

I think President Obama has done an good job so far and I think he is on the right track to help the United States out of the horrible recession it is in. Recessions are difficult to get out of and I trust President Obama and the Republican party to get the United States out of it. He has done good work so far in my opinion but he cannot run the entire country by himself. If I were American, he would definately have my support. I support him anyway because I know our economies are closely tied.


Jeff
said

And we were all worried about 64 B?




KJ in Kingston Ontario
said

I have a better idea -- why spend our own government's money on a stimulus program -- let's just let the US buy their way out of the abyss they're in and we can piggy back along....

It's about as sound a plan as spending Canadian money we don't have!


Cambob
said

The GDP of Canada is around 1.2 Trillion annually.

The GDP of the US is around 14 Trillion anually.

Yes, they can afford to spend a bit to ease this current pain. And so can we.


James from Canada
said

I am cautiously optimistic about the economy of the United States rebounding in 2009. I know Canada will benefit overall from a pull up from this recession.

The Democrats in the United States with the support of Congress will get out of this recession sooner or later. It is nice to have that confidence.


A. Conda
said

A package like this is always contentious but the influx of money in this way will make a difference. The Senate will have to get over themselves and make things work or there will be trouble. The way unemployment is rising, something has to start now.


Dale
said

There can't be a recession , after all didn't they spent about $150 million on the inaugeration? Plus the $200 million train ride.


eddytoronto
said

ndp HAS warned that passing the latest proposed economic stimulus package would be akin to pouring kerosene on an already raging fire.

such measures will cause a recession to turn into a full scale depression possibly worse than that of the 1930s.


NDP explaines stimulus funding is such a destructive policy.

NDP!
“It’s because the government is spending it. If the people were spending it it would be fine, but the government never does anything productive. They have to take money from productive individuals and spend it in non productive ways, so it’s just digging a bigger hole, getting us into bigger debt, and that is the problem.”

This stimulus package is going to cost each and every Canadian $6000 of more debt, so how can that be beneficial? If debt was the answer we would of never had a problem.”

“We are doing exactly what we did in the 1930s, we are taking a recession and working very hard to try and turn it into a depression.”

We’re on the verge of destroying the dollar. So if you think the financial crisis is bad, and the financial system isn’t working, wait ’til you find out when the Dollar doesn’t work.”

By liquidating debt, allowing the market to operate freely and allowing prices to come down will the problem be corrected.



NDP
“We never had a hands off approach thats the fallacy and as long as we believe that we will never correct our problem. If you blame Capitalism and free markets and sound money for this then we cant win the intellectual fight.



“Even Obama’s administration wants to increase spending overseas and increase military spending. As long as you want to run the world empire at a trillion dollars a year, believe me you cannot solve this problem.”



kate
said

Don't blink yet...but they've added a 'protectionist" amendment to the stimulus package and it passed. So far it only applies to iron and steel - has to be produced in the US but want to expand it to manufacturing. And yes I know about NAFTA but when did the US ever abide by the rules unless it suited them. And Mr "I've always been against NAFTA" Obama hasn't commented on it yet.


Steve M. Ottawa
said

Other than important ethical and social issues I find, it's bills like this where you don't think it should pass, but everyone is screaming you have to pass it, that are the hardest to make up your mind on.


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