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Josh Visser, CTV.ca News

Date: Tue. Jan. 27 2009 11:07 PM ET

After months of speculation, Finance Minister Jim Flaherty tabled a federal budget on Tuesday that is big on income tax cuts and even bigger on deficits.

Flaherty's spending plan includes $40 billion in economic stimulus over the next two years in the form of infrastructure spending and tax cuts.

The budget comes at a massive cost -- $85 billion in deficit over the next five years. The deficit in the 2009-2010 fiscal year will be a shade under $34 billion.

The budget is remarkably different than any other one proposed by the Conservatives under Prime Minister Stephen Harper -- with massive government spending on everything from roads, social housing to the arts.

"We must do what it takes to keep our economy moving, and to protect Canadians in this extraordinary time," Flaherty said. "Making new investments is more challenging in such a time; but it is also more necessary than ever."

If all goes according to Flaherty's plan, the government estimates about 190,000 jobs will be created or saved, and the economy will grow by 1.0 per cent over the next two years.

Flaherty told CTV's "On the Hill" that Canadians across that country have told him they want government to be pragmatic -- and do what it needs to do to protect Canada from a global recession.

"And the same time we heard, 'invest for the future,'" he added, noting his budget includes major cash for universities, such as $1 billion towards clean-energy research.

Both the NDP and the Bloc Quebecois have stated that they will be voting against the budget. In order for it to pass, the support of the Liberals is needed.

Liberal Leader Michael Ignatieff says he will make an announcement about whether his party will support the budget at 11 a.m. Wednesday. He will meet with his caucus Tuesday evening.

Pundits have noted that much of the budget does seem to meet the requirements Ignatieff put forth for his support and the Liberal leader seemed cautiously pleased with the document when speaking to reporters.

"There are some developments in this budget that would have been unthinkable before Christmas," Ignatieff said. "That is to say the government has responded to the combined pressure of the opposition parties and those results are positive."

He did add he had some "concerns" about the permanent tax cuts and will have to study them further.

Massive deficits forecasted

The deficits proposed will virtually wipe out a decade of debt repayments - nearly 85 per cent paid back to 1998.

Flaherty announced that the government has already slipped into deficit, and will post a shortfall of about $1.1 billion in the current fiscal year that ends March 31.

It is the first deficit since the 1996-1997 fiscal year.

The surprise move of the day was the roughly $2 billion per year in income tax cuts. Those cuts will extend to $20 billion over the next six years.

The tax changes will include a slight increase in the basic personal exemption and raising the upper limit on the two lowest personal income-tax brackets.

A single person making $40,000 will save $115 a year due to the changes, according to the Department of Finance's online budget calculator. A one-earner, family of four making $60,000 would save $275.

A single parent of one child making $30,000 would save $297, while a senior couple on one $40,000 per year pension would save $366.

Business tax cuts were also included in the budget, $2 billion over six years.

Government spending will jump dramatically in the budget -- up nine per cent in the 2009-2010 and three per cent in the year following.

EI benefits will also be extended five weeks for the next two years.

Gov't forecast optimistic: experts

Patricia Croft, chief economist at RBC Global Asset Management, told CTV News that the budget seems to "have something in there for pretty much everyone."

However, she said that there is a bit of a "fingers crossed" on behalf of the government in terms of getting back in the black in five years.

"It assumes a fairly healthy rebound in the Canadian economy," Croft said of the budget's fiscal estimates.

"There will be no long-running or permanent deficit," Flaherty promised. However, he did add a slight adjustment to that statement.

"While our projections are based on the best possible information, we cannot guarantee them absolutely."

Other economists echoed Croft's concerns about the government's optimistic economic forecasts.

Dale Orr, managing director of Canadian Macro Services at Global Insight, told CTV's "On the Hill" that Canadians "are going to be in a very tough situation to the end of this year."

"I am not quite as optimistic as Mr. Flaherty," he said. However, Orr said Canada is going to be in "very good shape" compared to other countries in its readiness to deal with the global economic downturn.

But Flaherty says that his budget is cautious and says the worst could be yet to come.

"The U.S. economy has not hit bottom, some of the European banks are still not okay, there is still some banking turbulence in the United States so I am being very cautious and we have to be ready for a difficult year," he told "On the Hill."

The government is estimating the debt-to-GDP ratio will increase from 28.6 in the current fiscal year to 32.1 per cent by 2010-11 because of the deficits.

The government says the ratio will be below the current year's by 2013-14.

In an interview with CTV on Monday, Prime Minister Stephen Harper urged his Parliamentary colleagues to "stop the political games and get on with the business of passing some of these economic measures."

If his budget is defeated, Harper said "we'll have to go to an election and the people will have to decide this."

Federal budget highlights at a glance:

  • $85 billion deficit over the nest five years
  • Personal taxes down $20 billion over six years
  • Business taxes cut by $2 billion over six years
  • $12 billion for infrastructure spending towards roads, sewers and universities, $1 billion for "green" infrastructure, and $1 billion for clean-energy research.
  • $1.5 billion for job training programs
  • $7.8 billion for social housing and home renovation, including a one-year only Home Renovation Tax Credit of up to $1,350 per household.
  • $2.7 billion in short-term loans to the auto industry.
  • More than $1.4 billion for aboriginal schools, health, water, housing, community services and training.
  • About $325 million for arts and culture.

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glenn
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I said it a hundred times instead of giving billions to the corps to create jobs just give each canadian a million bucks and they will spend their way out of the recession


Brian in Edmonton
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And Jack Layton's NDP is going to vote against this....unbelievable, and Iggy knows it will be Liberal political suicide to vote against this budge.....

Harper and the Conservatives will lead us out of this recession, its just going to take some time.




Jay, Ottawa
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My thoughts are somewhere between "uh oh" and "holy crap".


Doug
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Should have paid down even more of the debt when we had the chance.


LondonMike
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It makes no sense to cut taxes and shrink revenue when a government is running deficits. I'd never support this budget this is the kind of wild spending that got George W. Bush into so much trouble. Todays deficits are tomorrows taxes.


AD Constantino
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Bring the Toris down !!
It's time for the Grits to balance the books & remove the mess caused by Harper & his team.


David S
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No one can say whether or not this budget will be good or bad for our country. We can only hope for the best.


Karl from GTA
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Let me think....

Steven Harper said during the election that there would be no deficit... now $84B!

He is a liar. His party is fiscally irresponsible! Time for the coalition or simply for us to vote for a Majority Liberal Government!

Shame Harper, shame!


Scott - Libral in Calgary
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Well - I guess we will be off to the polls again. Why do governments plan for 5-10 years when the KNOW they will not be in power for that long... It took the Librals to get us out of the massive deficit left by the Torries, and I guess they will have to save us again... I guess we just never learn.


Mike - NWO
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Glenn,

Do some research, would you!! Giving each Cdn a million dollars would cost over $33 trillion dollars and that million dollars would be worthless b/c our dollar would be worthless.

I hope you were kidding. Or maybe your just a hippy. Or NDP supporter.


martin d from ottawa
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i completly agree with mike, tax cuts make no sense at the moment, shrinking the revenue, the amnt of spending is from the bush days, taxes on corporations like banks and oil companies need to be reversed, i'm all for stimulating the economy but their are better ways


Mile Zero BC
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Unbelievable! Do you remember during the recent election both Harper and Flahery said, Canada is in great shape and we will not run a deficit.

They spent Canada dry over the past 3 years using up as well the over $13 billion in surplus; now the cupboard is bare and they come crying to us saying it's not their fault they ran out of money.


JP
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Thnaks to Conservative blue and mis managemnet - the country will be RED for years to come.
Finance Minister Jim Flaherty screwed up Ontario when he was in power and got the boot - now he alone with Harper will screw up Canada


Shopaholic
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it was bound to happen, this is what the liberals wanted all along - they got it! i'm sure the can't do it any better, or worse, for that matter. You can't please everyone! sure we've been debt free to 10 years but look at all the other countries? Bring on the spending! i'm surprised it lasted this long...


BB
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well isn’t that a pendulum swing. First - we are in great shape - now - the sky is falling. Will the conservative government figure out what they really are thinking?

Our generation, children’s generation and grand children’s generation will be paying off this stupid foolish mistake.



Linda S
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It's about time! Good budget in this economic recession. I hope it passes!


Kojak
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when times were tough in our family, we always went on a big spending spree. It's always a joy writing bad cheques. Makes one feel all fuzzy and warm inside.


The Widowmaker
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I'm sorry but I think this is crazy. These guys told us no more than 3 months ago that Canada wasn't going to get hit as hard as the U.S. that we'd be ok. I think we need to get someone in office who can see what's happening and fix this properly. This is simply nuts. $85 billion??? My god.


Mark Ruth
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Although the tendency may be to blame the Tories for this, it is important to recognize that the recession is global. This budget contains many measures that the opposition were calling out for.


winnipeg
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Well looking at all the money that is going to be spent, I cannot see where it is going to help the people that really need an increase just to live. I am talking about people of disability , the general amount for basic support has not been increased in years , Rent has not been increased either. I would like to see Mr. Harper survive on less than $ 10,000.00 per year to pay for rent, utilities, food, clothing all things that are needed just to live. What about us the forgotten,the pensioners, the people who want to work but cannot because of physical or mental disabilities. What mention is any this in this budget

And more debt again for this country.. Who bails out the small business that are going down?

Jim in Ontario
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The budget sounds good to me. Time for the House of Commons to get on with governing and legislate this baby.


john
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Boy... What a mess we will be in 5 years from now with all this debt. Who will pay it back.


Dan from Ontario
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Home Renovation Tax Credit. 7.8b/1350 = 5.8 million household. Canadian population is 33 million/2.7 people per household = 12.2 million households. Are you kidding me, they projected 50% of the household would be taking advantage of this credit by going out and spend $$$ to get just $1350 credit?


Wes
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Vote against this Jack, and the Canadian Public wont forget that you would rather continue your power grab than help the people you claim to represent.


Brad Ottawa,
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This sounds like a good budget and we have to give it a chance and the NDP, should stop acting like babies, nobody wants you in power and I hope the liberals vote for this budget and pass it through, enough of this back and forth, it is a time for Canadians to stick together and push forward through these uncertain times.


Mark M
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"AD Constantino
Bring the Toris down !!
It's time for the Grits to balance the books & remove the mess caused by Harper & his team. "

ARE YOU KIDDING ME??? And how will they do that, by raising taxes? Sucking funds out of the EI fund? Oh, wait, I know, how about using adscam money to start new businesses and hiring workers.

Give me a break, there is nothing wrong with a deficit in times like this. It's temporary and necessary. Talk to people from the Trudeau area about "temporary" liberal deficits...

If the lib$ were in charge this deficit would be twice as big and twice as long! Give you head a shake!



Needed
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Weather you like the idea of a deficit or not it's something that is needed. Prediction: the opposition will find something to complain about. Woops too late!


Terri
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I agree its going to be Harper all the wat .. The Conservatives will bring Canada out of this resession as we call it ... Its Harper all the way ...


Scene
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The opposition wanted to spend and there you have it. $85 billion defict, I think Jack might actually applaud Mr. Harper on this one, hahaha! Although I don't agree with going into this kind of debt, there is no other choice then to go this route.


Michelle
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NO NO NO. Where did that boy get his economics degree? At a corner gas gumball machine? You can't cut taxes AND increase debt.
He sold his soul, that is what he did.


Don Jones
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If the Liberals were in power, they would have had to come with much the same type of budget. Conditions are such even the unplanned surplus the Liberals left the Tories in '06 would not have saved the country. This budget could have been written by Iggy himself, so it is likely the Liberals will support it.


Mike
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So, a family making $70,000 a year saves $200.00 per year. Where is the stimulus in that to make the economy better?

I'm not even going to see a difference as it works out to about $7.69 per paychque... wow, now I can afford a coffee at Starbucks.... whipty flippin do.


Jason
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They're just throwing a bunch of money away without dealing with the real issue.

We need a coalition and maybe they'll have better ideas. Maybe even touch the real issue at the heart of our problem, resource depletion and fossil fuel dependency.


Bob NS>
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The Conservatives did what they have been forced to do, a little by the coalition but mainly by the world economic crisis and our position and responsability in the World and among the G7.
Bob NS


Shon Curren
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A Concerned Canadian.

It is unfortunate that we are all in this predictament.

We have to stick together, help each other, and do with a little less.

What concerns me the most is the coalition's focus is on gaining access to power at a time when all Canadian's made their choice to elect Harper to lead us out of these times.

If we all work together without hidden agendas we will overcome, as we always do.

I am pleased by my choice to vote for Harper, and it is about time that someone did something to help the working poor.

As a middle-class income earner, my wife and I still have difficultly in saving for a downpayment on a home.

I wish for a time when all Canadians will work together for the greater cause so every family can take a deep breath of relief that our elected officials will do the right thing for us, not for their party.

Lets hope this is the right step towards healing our current state, and lets get to the hard work in building a united, strong competitive Canada for the future.

Sincerely,

S. Curren, Milton, ON


I support the budget
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I agree with the budget.
If the Coalition votes down the budget, guess what, Ignatieff will introduce the same budget - he has to. The Bloc and NDP just show that they are clueless.
I am a small business owner - tax cuts are great for me.

Remember folks, this is a global recession not just a Canadian one. Irregardless if the Liberals had a surplus (which was from extremely high taxes and no spending on things like health care), there would have been a deficit budget.


Business woman- In Edmonton
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This budget has bite - with the extensions to unemployment inssurance, and to all the other areas seeing cuts or spending this is all balanced. Spending on infastructure is a fair debt to leave to our children, and this budget appears to look far more functional that other budgets in shaky times.
I see nothing but action in this budget. Globally we will be watched - Canada will be a leader rising from the global recession quicker and faster than the other G8


Lou77
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For all those complaining about spending this much and cutting a few tax rates for low income and seniors - try not doing this and see what happens.

If we didn't run a big deficit, our economy would risk a collapse in the next year. It has nothing to do with our own strength, but the fact that the USA is circling the economic drain. Most of these are VERY necessary protective measures.

You practice fiscal conservatism (ala Chretien/Martin, or Flaherty/Harper) during the good times so you have access to capital and credit when times are bad.

The Liberals didn't "fix" the Mulroney era - they just got into power as a recession was ebbing out.


Layton in NB
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I would love to see more dedicated funds to wind and solar generation and the manufacturing capacity to provide them to our utilities. Other than that, this ain't that bad. Its a HUGE amount. The tax cuts are aimed at the right places, helping the lowest tax brackets. But I think its too much. 10-15$billion would have been just as nice. I think the Libs should support it. If for no other reason than to keep government moving forward.
But remember these clowns were either utterly utterly incompetent or bald faced liars during the last election. The man Canada seemed to love to hate, Stephan Dion and yea, even myself on this very forum, were right. That there was a crisis. And that something had to be done. But I gotta say they fools may have listened at least a little bit.


Andrew
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Where is the cancellation of Income Trust tax structure brought on buy the government on 31 Oct 06?


sounds expensive
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Thanks for that Glenn. You do realize of course, that would mean the budget would cost 30 trillion dollars. Back to pre-school with you.


Mark
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Wow what a pure reactionary response to the threat of the coalition. They should have stuck to the their intial plan and rode the recession out. We were in better shape the rest of the world and could exited the recession in amazing shape without spending away the future.

Second, Yes you have to cut taxes to get out of a recession. Public spending has NEVER reversed a recession or depression. The spending has to come from the private sector. The good part of the budget is the tax cuts. But there should have been more cuts and less spending.


Steve
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Using the GST as a campaign highlight started it all....
1% cut in GST equates to roughly $6-7 billion dollars out of gov't revenue. Since we're done 2% that's $12-13 billion gone. For the average consumer, we do not really see this savings. It's only the people with the money - buying big ticket items - that realize such savings. Need to rethink ... Do not agree with this astronmical amount.


Steve A
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I back harper 100%. This is a hard pill to swallow but it's for the good of the country. No pain no gain.


A Proud New Brunswicker
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To all you Harper critics, remember this......If the coalition's threat were not as serious as they were, we can be assured that today's budget would not be the same one that the CPC planed to bring down next month.

They responded to the Opposition wishes...This is a Coalition budget plain and simple.. but alas voters and forum posters can't remember a thing except what Harper and Flaherty said back in the fall when things still looked a bit better. Maybe you should rewind to late November and early December and listen to what the 3 Opposition leaders were saying needed to be in the budget.... I'll bet almost to the letter it is all there...and more....


Daryl H
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Cutting taxes works because people may use it to make purchases... which the government taxes with gst, Buying stuff with the tax breaks pays for the wages of people in industries whose services you purchase who are in turn taxed.
Deficit spending is what the liberals, Ndp and media have been calling for.


Charles, Ontario
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If you make $10,300 - you save $90

If you make $41,000 - you save $750

If you make $81,000 + - you save $1750


Holy crap! talk about giving tax cuts to people who don't need them. Besides, most people I know making 100K + already work for the gov't.


RD
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WHen there was a surplus, I got nothing, now they are in deficit and we still get nothing. WHy bother. Middle class is always screwed!!!!!!!!


NO NAME
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To Brian in Edmonton:
It is the conservatives that are leading this country to DEBT DEBT DEBT. Harper is one of the worst thing that happened to this country


Dave
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Deja-vu all over again. Flaherty and Harris destroyed Ontario by over-cutting taxes and driving it into massive debt from a balanced budget. Now he is doing the same for the rest of Canada. You can be sure the under-class will suffer the most just like they did in Ontario.


Emil
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Any of you lib/ndp supporters out there really think an election now is a good idea? If this budget is approved money should flow before spring. An election would delay any federal funding well into summer if not the fall. Can canadians really hold out that long to see any form of help? I don't think so. Let the conservatives have a crack at this. the americans are willing to give Obama the time needed to figure things out, let's have the same patience for Harper.


G.McQuarrie
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let's see--now I can save an additional $115 because it's now 10320.00 instead of 9600 last year and instead of paying 750 or so in EI premiums this year I'll pay the 720 I paid last eyar. This is suppose to entice me to spend how much extra this year??? Why not give every canadian 1000.00 as 32B budget at 32M people would put a lot more money in my pocket to spend this year. Not really sure how spending al this money is going to help me except maybe fixing the roads will save me 500 additional on tie rods and control arms for the van.


Retired Soldier in Kingston, ON
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The Conservative government has delivered a reasonable budget for the current economic crisis.

However, voters should be aware that if the country does not pay off an estimated $660 Billion + debt, the currency will collapse as investors and sovereign nations avoid investing in this country.

Ergo, lets not spend hard earned tax-payer dollars on ill thought out infrastructure boondoggles. Construction projects should be well thaought out, costed,
surveyed and properly constructed by competent tradespeople.

Politicians, the bulk of whom are lawyers, are ill suited for these tasks.

Finally, be careful what you ask for - it may be granted to you!!

Canadian citizens, politicians, municipal governments and institutions have been spending way beyond their means for years. A culture of entitlement exists in this country.

We need to heed what has happened in America where unbridled spending, irresponsible corporate governance and excessive greed have turned the American economy and the housing sector into a basketcase.

Good luck to Stephen Harper and his cabinet!!

Pro Patria




Derek in Calgary
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If the Tories did not have to appease the socialists to avoid a socialist revolution, this number would likely be MUCH smaller and maybe even around the zero dollar range. Unfortunately, if the socialists are not appeased and do succeed in a revolt, this number is likely to climb a lot, the beneficiaries of which would not even live in the nation of Canada.


abdul
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Sorry to break it to you Einstein, but 1 million to every Canadian is over 34 trillion dollars! Where the hell is Canada gonna get 34 trillion?


Geoff
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Scott and AD Constantino, it just boggles the mind how Liberal supporters can be so uniformed of the facts. When the Liberals left power under Paul Martin the debt was 30 billion dollars greater than when Chretein took power from Mulroney. Given that they raised 54 billion illegally (according to the Supreme Court of Canada) and then transferred that money from UI to the general coffiers (which is probabley the biggest cooking of the books in Canadian history) don't be foolish enough to even suggest the Liberals are financially responsible.

The debt figures are yours to see on the Statistics Canada web site.

Please no matter what party we support lets try to make an informed decision not an emotional one. If not democracy cannot work.



Nicholas
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If you check the facts, you will see that Trudeau started the whole deficit. Mulroney did add to it when he first got in but then he actually started to pay down the deficit. Then Chretien took over and paid the rest of the decifit off.

While Im not thrilled about the deficit, as long as its temporary its ok. ANd many other countries are going into deficits far worse than us.

Also regarding Flaherty and the so called mess the Ontario provincial tories left behind, you have to remember that part of the reason for the deficit was mad cow and Walkerton. Also, Ernie Eves abandoned the common sense revolution to gain votes.


Colin Bell
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Spend their way out by buying Chinese electronics, alcohol, and drugs. We want sustainable economic development, not a bandaid.


ST*U
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Everyone here that is complaining about how unbelievable it is that the Conservatives are announcing a budget with a deficit now; please stop the hypocrisy.

The only time you would acknowledge a budget proposal being the right thing to do, is if the budget was announced by another party.

Please take your partisan crap somewhere else.



Rob from Peterborough
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I find it laughable that those who are criticizing the Conservatives and praising the Liberals are failing to realize that this budget has many of the measures that the Liberals asked for.
As for laying "shame" on Harper for saying what he said about balanced budgets during the election, perhaps those should look back at all of the major party leaders who all promised balanced budgets during the campaign.
In regards to the current economy, while are others out their failing to realize that we were the last country in the G-20 to go into recession and we're forecst to be the first out of it. Couple that with the fact that 84 billion over 5 years isn't that much when you compare it to the U.S. (the root of the entire global economic crisis) who plan to use 1.5 TRILLION dollars in bailout money this year alone. Oh and as a last note, to those who think the Libs are the one to get us out of this like in the 90's that's fine, if you like having higher taxes, and less in transfers for things like health care.


old man of the sea
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Time to take this western separtist government down. I do not have kids and need a car ( that is 10 years old ) to get to work. Again I must support the farmers fisherman that in my eyes are the same as any business. Why must I support the baby makeing machines in this country that have not found out what the pill or condoms are for. It is time that all than can work get out and work and stop letting this separtist western party force me to support them.
No I do not support any of the stands of any party but the one in power now has to go and fast


Shirley in Saskatoon
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The liberals put us into this mess by massive spending before the second last election and not saving for the day when the economy would crash now the conservatives have to find a way out which they will but unfortunately for the conservatives they get blamed for deficits which cannot be helped. Do you think the liberals or coalition government would have done anything different? Why were the liberals defeated in the first place. Lets give the conservatives a fair chance to do what they were voted in to do. Why not work together and make Canada a better place. I call on the coalition to put your personal agendas aside and work together for a better Canada.


Dave in Toronto
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Spending is the easy part. In a few years we will see which party has the leadership to balance the budget.


Kris D.
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LondonMike said:

"Today's deficits are tomorrow's taxes."

This statement is priceless. It should be tattooed on Jim Flaherty’s forehead so he remembers.



David From Windsor
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If the Liberals decide to vote against this it will only harm them even further because it will put a longer delay on getting Canada on track. They wish to just take power without an election, but we will know that our vote means nothing if that happens. If you don't vote Liberal, they will just find a way to take control. It's not about what is right and good for Canada, it's about being in control.


Vickie B Alberta
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All you coalition supporters asked for this!!!

When the PM started to announce his cutbacks and decreasing of political party revenues on the backs of taxpayers, you all screamed.

Now the coalition threat is holding a gun to the head of the PM. He has been left with no choice but to spend. Worst is, it is money we don't have. We will not have. Us normal, middle class, over taxed, hard working people will pay for this new budget.

Way to go coalition and all the supporters. You got what you asked for, now shut up and lets get on with digging our country out of this recession.

Wish we could say, "Yes we can", but Canada's motto will probably be...."I doubt we will"


Parksville Bill.
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What a great budget - it addresses our current financial ailments. It is hard to believe that the NDP won't even look at it - how could you ever vote for that type of narrow mindness - and the Bloc should not exists, so who cares what they think. The Liberals should vote for it because they do have some business sense. Keep on governing Mr. Harper.
Keep going Mr. Harper.


Mary-Ann Winnipeg
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Being in the horrific recession storm it is time as a country for all political parties to band together and pass this budget. Seeing the Bloc instantly rejecting the budget tells me Duiseppe is not interested Canada as a whole, but in his own personal agenda. If Layton votes along with the Bloc, then we know where he is also coming from. It is my hope that the Liberals, NDP, and Bloc (if they change their stand) agree to this budget. There is no doubt that Canada will be battered and bruised, but with ALL parties working together for the good of the WHOLE country I believe we will weather this recession and come out of it standing strong.

Personally, I am NDP provincially, and always have been Liberal federally. However, that being said, this Conservative budget I believe contains the necessary steps needed to keep our Canada strong.


Norman in Montreal
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UnTory like to run a deficit like this but it can't be helped at the moment.It's time for the Three Stooges to stop playing politics,pass it and get on with the Nation's business.


Constitution question
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How is the Bloc considered a National party? They have no representation in any other province. Does anyone else see a problem with this? A party that should only be allowed to exist in a pre or post confederation Canada has the ability to topple a government. Not right in my mind.


JP in london
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I really hope that home improvement covers more then a fence, driveway and insulation....I could use some other things and to get a tax credit for them would be great


Drew in NS
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Time for Iggy to put his money where his mouth is.

Gilles wants to be Minister of Seperation and Seclusion.

Jack the Knife has already stated it's not about getting financial aid to suffering Canadian, It all about Layton's Hate for Harper. Jack it's time you go, you have become a very bitter person.

Team Harper all the way, bring on the election lets decide this once and for all.


Goldens
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They have it all wrong. Japan tried this and it didn't work. Probably this infrastructrue money will be lost someplace paving a road to some mayors cottage. Instead of cutting income taxes they should have allowed people tax deductions against their income for green improvements. ie new windows in their homes, upgrades to geen heating systems etc. Generous write off to both business, individuals and coporations I think is far better than a general tax cut. Though I do admit, personally, I prefer the tax cut.
John Wilson
Bridgetown NS


Steve the Pundit
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Few observations:

- the opposition will vote against this at their own peril. Simply saying they won't vote for the budget because "they don't trust Harper" is insane. But then again, we ARE dealing with Jack and Gilles...

- I hope the spending is staged in such a way that, if we come out of this as fast as the Bank of Canada last week said we would, we could cancel some of this unbelieveable spending. Governments have been spending way too much in boon years; there's no way they should be spending even MORE when times are bad

- don't know about everyone else, but my tax cuts will be gladly accepted and promptly spent so I can "do my part". What knuckleheads would not want to be able to spend their OWN money as they see fit, as opposed to flushing it down a government sinkhole?

- I can't help but wonder what type of budget we'd get if we'd elected a Conservative MAJORITY? One that perhaps doesn't try to curry favor with opposition parties that would vote it down even if gold-plated public housing was promised to the homeless? WIth some luck, maybe we'll get that chance yet...


A true Liberal wish list.
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160 million for arts and cultlure????

1.4 billion on top of the billions the Indians already get?????

This is the ultimate Liberal wish list disguised as a stimulus, that Iggy will whine about but have to vote for or start packing and move back to the U.S.

Jack bin Layton will be wetting himself, with glee, but has already sealed his fate by broadcasting his NO vote ahead of time. Good Riddance Jacko!








Mike M
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Do many of your readers understand this is a world recession and not a Canadian made one? Some leaving comments think there is a Liberal Leader out there who is psychic and who could have avoided the global meltdown.This budget is probably as good as any to get Canadians through the worst.Pull together.


bcdarr
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Raise spending AND lower taxes? Does this mean Canada is going to do something no other country has done and become the world's first homeless nation?
Because that's what would happen to any one of us that lowered our income and increased our purchases with an already whopping debt load.
Bring on the election!
And PLEASE stop saying it's not the conservatives' fault, they were 'forced' into this by the opposition. If that's the case, then he's a pretty weak leader and needs to be booted to the curb. When will Harperites start holding him responsible for his ineptitude?


scott beckingsale
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Lets not be fooled again!

Harper is candy coated this budget - mind games just daring anyone to vote against it thinking the public is eager for tax cuts.

Please think, do you really want to hand over $85 Billion of debt to your children and grand children again and again????



Mac in Winnipeg
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A tax cut doesn't mean much if you're unemployed.


mrsnade
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$8.3 billion for skills and training, including $1.5 billion in new cash to retrain worker???

Hey where can I get this training? If it's only for IE recipients, then I guess it wasn't such a good idea to go into business for myself was it.


todd barclay
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Wake Up....

If the "Coalition" hadn't created this mess over nothing, we would have had a more reasonable budget. This deficit rests on Layton, Iggy, and Doucet... they are the ones who have forced this. People are right we will be paying for this for years. Bring on an election so we can vote for the Conservatives and actually get them in.


Dale
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We can not spend our way out of this reccesion but this is the most compassionate budget towards Canadian we may evr have seen.

Unlike the Trudeau/Mulroney defecits this has been brought on by a world reccesion and we should be thankful this government (probably with the support of the Libs) has the nuts to do it.

Times will change, good times will return and I don't mind helping those who are hurting, support this budget.


Kim B
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I feel sorry for the next generation haveing to pay this off.

Anyways I can't believe some of the supid comments on here. Someone said "Lets put the Grits back in to clean up the budget. Gee I think it was Trudue who started deficit budgets in the first place. At least with the conservatives running things we don't have to worry about the Libs giving it to Quebec advertising companies......how soon we forget. But really we have no political brains in Canada.


StudentBlessingorCurse
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I like it but one section is still never delt with. I will give you an example. I need $3000 in dental work for over 10 years. I can not do it which effects my appearance and to some extent my mobility up the corporate ladder. I am of course speaking of Student loans. Any extra goes to those. My extra money does in part go to my needs but not enough is in my pocket as I am indept and would need 3 jobs to pay it off. Of course who works 3 jobs after university only during university. Then your burnt out anyway.


Mo Chaudhury
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If there was ever a massive power grab with public money, this is it. PM Harper has done it, 200% rotation from his position a few weeks ago.

I am horified abou the size of thedeficit, it si only a matter of time before the interest rates and the marginal tax rates go up again, or health care gets darined again.

Bring back Martin/Chretien duo.


JoeC from St. Thomas
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The Canadian Government has already begun obtaining the cash to cover the cost of this budget.
The Canadian Government has already added new 2-year, 5-year, 10-year, and 30-year auctions to its new issuance of notes and bonds for the first quarter this year.
While this issue of over $77.6-billion in notes and bonds is more than in 2008, the Canadian Bond Market will not be flooded with debt, because the additional government issues will be filling a void left by the sharp decline in corporate bond issuance's.



Blake in Ottawa
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Another Conservative government and we're back to big government deficits.

"We'll pay back the borrowed money with future surpluses" the finance minister said (or something close to it). But I don't believe it. Whenever we achieve any surpluses through painful social cost restructuring, the Conservatives cut taxes to eliminate these debt reducing surpluses.

I don't want to reward the Harper government mismanagement by passing this budget. Because other than the whopping huge deficit, I don't believe anything they say.


Beadle Winnipeg
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Just saw Jack Layton. I now am certain that he is a wing-nut and lives on another planet. Everything that is there in the budget should help low income Canadians. Why anyone with a brain larger than a gnat's would vote against this budget is a mystery.
It's going to be interesting to see how the Liberals' spin doctors handle it.


BobLoblaw
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I think all of the lefties posting in this forum need to consider what they want.
First they demanded spending in a recession. Then, talk of 30B wasn't enough. Next, the 64B announced was either too much or too little and finally 85B is definitely too much.

The reality is - if you lefties were honest, you LOVE the spending. You're just desperate for something to complain about.

If you were all honest, you'd say you don't really know what you're talking about but you just hate Harper and you don't know why.

It's that sort of ignorance that will help the Tories keep power for the foreseeable future.


kate
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Of course Iggy and Jack will vote it down..the liberals are more NDP now having being infected with the "rae' virus. Welfare for everyone, no need to try to educate yourself or making a sacrifice - let's just get the middle class to support everything on our backs. As for the clowns asking for millions for everyone - listen cowboy, this country is built on the fact that you could come here with a nickel in your pocket and end up with an excellent quality of life. It's been proven over several decades. People like you underachievers will never get anywhere in life because you want it all handed to you...my advice, go buy yourself a lottery ticket.


John in Calgary
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I Love everything except there is not enough spending on Public Transit in the Cities. Calgary needs more C-Trains and I'm sure other cities do as well.


Chris - Red Deer
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This country is going to the crapper. I'm outta here. If anybody needs to get a hold of me, I'll be in Texas.


Dale in Kanata
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If the Liberals don't support this budget they're insane..
it would show political greed when we should all be getting together to get out of this thing..

and for those of you blaming the c-tives for the economic trouble...please refer to THE REST OF THE WORLD!!!

Everybody is down right now. The EU, Japan, even OPEC with the oil prices so low...so please don't blame the government. It makes no sense and it counter-productive


Kevin (Rural Ontario)
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This budget speech was good, however it did little to address HOW these great things will be done. Will it be done from federal spending alone? Or will it force municipalities to spend money, that they don't have, and thus restrict the said change that the Conservatives are proposing. "Success ... depends on all levels of government" Also, tax cuts are one of the least effective ways to stimulate the economy. The intention is good, but it jsut doesn't make good economic sense to support it


Nick in Gatineau
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$ 20 billion Divided over 6 years = $ 0.59 a day. That pays for 1 coffee a day at Tim Hortons.

WOW ! I can finally get that operation.




no help for us small companies - yet again!!!
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I don't see where there is help for the small and medium sized corporations who can't even get a line of credit to keep going. We need lines of credit so that we, as the primary employers of this country, can keep the employees that we have and get new employees. Don't everyone think that the corporate assistance is going to help all corporations - typically only the big guys and not us little guys. You've missed the boat again Harper!!!
In order to spend money on those things you've provided for you need to assume that people actually have the cash to do so - we don't!


Denise in Brampton
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I'm surprised there is nothing for the disabled or their families. My husband works in the auto sector, we have a disabled daughter and I stay home.(not by choice) it's not an option for us. We are on very shaky grounds with the rug being pulled out from under us at any time.
Way to go Harper!!!


Major Dad
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It is good for the vitality and balance of any economical system that one political party does not stay exceedingly long in power. If somehow the Liberals take over the Government (via coalition with the separatists and NDP, then election in the future) then they will be back after and absence of only three years or so. Canada needed a non-Liberal government for a few years more.


K_W_
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WOW, This is dumb how are they helping the middle class, i have read the full text of the budget and i love to see a single parent home with 2 kids will be ahead 500 per yr (35,000 earning), but a person with a spouse earning 70,000 will save 275 per/yr with 2 kids so how is this making us spend? thats not a lot of savings let me tell you now i'm inbetween i make a little over 40,000 with my spouse so not sure how much i'll save but it seems because i'm married i don't get a very good tax relief?

EI doesnt' seem to be helped at all, because EI is frozen so not everyone who apply are approved so how extending the EI for another 5 weeks help? Ok home renovation come on that is dumb i can't see anyone going out spending money on doing home renovation on their house plus it's only available till 2010 makes no sense. Oh and i love that big corps are getting more money than the canadian people. Honestly even with all these apparent saving on income tax ect... i won't be out and about spending i'll be saving cause once we get out of this recession i'll be prepared on the taxes to be increased double the amount they are today in the next few years this is just a little relief but wait till we are done the recession then BAM we have to pay out the butt to get out of debt.


Morley
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Spending away our future, just to get elected.
Is this not a free market society?

It will ensure that we will soon or later have large tax hikes, just when they were getting it under control


mel ontario
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everyone should stop placing the blame on others everywhere, but on are own backs.. we chose are leaders and now we must accept their choices.. we put them there to do the job we want them to do.. stop crying every time they do something we don't like when they have no choice but to do it for all of us.. and the groups not chose by everyone should stop sticking in their two cents when they are not the ones who we all chose to run the show, they had their chance let the conservatives do their jobs .. go harper go all you can do is your best and hope and pray it works out well


Concerned Canadian
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Congratulations to Mr. Layton and Mr. Dion for having the courage to force Mr. Harper to table a budget that helps all Canadians, not just the top few percent.

The Canadian Parliamentary system has worked as it should, and the wishes of the majority of Canadians are being respected over the Tries' protests.

Of course, the budget isn't perfect- it isn't clear that giving tax breaks to the middle class and thereby increasing the deficit is the wisest thing to do. But there is some help for the broad spectrum of the Canadian people.

Let there be no mistake - this is a victory for the coalition and a loss for the Tories, whose previous budget would have left all of us in deep trouble. And rather than complaining that the coalition was somehow "undemocratic," I hope people have come to understand that it was Mr. Harper's refusal to fund the opposition parties that in fact was the greatest threat to democracy here in Canada.

All Canadians should be proud that our system worked as well as it did to curb the excesses of the Tories' minority government. Many Canadians have come to learn how the Parliamentary system actually works!

Prediction: Mr. Ignatieff will express his concern about tax cuts for the middle class, but ultimately he will endorse the budget, having won a victory over the Tories. He has come through in a crisis. This bodes well for a resurgence of Liberal support.


Pat - Toronto
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Hello Canada! I am wondering if maybe some of you never watch the news.. There has been a WORLD economic crisis! Hello! Have you not heard? Don't blame Harper for taking these drastic measures. He was trying to hold it together under the circumstances UNTIL the kindergarten kids (referred to as the coalition) bullied him into making some drastic decisions.. So, if you want to blame someone for this budget.... blame the world crisis and the opposition.. not Harper or his government! I think he did the best he could under the circumstances and only time will tell if it works, but at least he really tried!..




JP in Halifax
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--sigh--

This is such an extreme over-reaction to a recession. Why do we need to mortgage some of the future to try to preserve industries that are dying? Let those industries die, take our lumps for a tear or two and emerge stronger for it.

We're becoming such a nanny state.

Put more money in the hands of people (tax cuts) instead of government, which is inherently the most inefficient vehicle to redistribute capital.

Sad. Are there no fiscal conservatives left anywhere on this planet?


Chris in Kingston
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Why is the NDP even allowed to run anymore? They vote against any government that is in power, and stand for nothing other than putting a roadblock in parliament so we can't get things done.


Mario from NWT
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Just a little note for the Tory voters. We had a 13 billion dollar surplus. No I don't agree how it was done but it was there. Not only did the Tories squander that but how do you miss the fact that UI was never changed. So ask yourself how many more billions did they squander. One definite thing I have noticed on this blog and the stupid, ill informed comments. Tory voters = stupid voters. Lets say we actually pay attention to the political scene before you make a very important decision like voting.


Budget Works For Me.
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To NO NAME:

Debt is the only way out of this WORLD WIDE recession! You think the Liberals or NDP would be able to table anything different?!?!

Everyone likes to blab about how the Liberals got us out of the national debt left by Mulroney....if you knew what you were talking about you would realize that when Mulroney become Prime Minister he was stuck with the debt from the previous Liberals. You all seem to forget that. In 2004/2005 under the Liberals our national debt was $500 billion, they never got us out of debt. Get your facts straight.





There should be no support for car buyers.
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Wild shopping on credit is what caused a large part of the economic crisis.




AB
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Makes me happier I voted against the Conservatives so they didn't get a majority - then we would have a real disaster. The Liberals left behind a buffer for events like this - the Conservatives came in and saw it as a chance to come in and cut our taxes and balance the budget. I think we were better off paying the 7% GST and keeping a safety surplus in our budget so we wouldn't have to go so far in the hole when things go sour!


Sweet, real sweet
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Considering what is happening globally this is what is needed to get us over the crunch. Putting forth the mother of all Liberal budgets was a bitter pill for the Conservatives to swallow, but once again shows they are willing to put the best interests of the Country first.
A win,win situation for Prime Minister Harper. Vote passes the Government survives. The Leftys vote it down and we elect a Conservative majority and get rid of the NDP and Bloc. SWeet!


Ottawa Dude
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Lovely, and the "middle class" will get taxed to hell and gone to pay this off and the carrying costs, and none of the benefits. No point working for a living...


LH
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The Conservatives were forced into this budget by the Coalition, if the Coalition hadn't forced Harper to change the budget it would be a different budget. You cannot blame Harper for including tons of spending, which puts us into a deficit, when the coalition demanded that he put together a stimulus package and spend more! The Coalition plans were to spend much much more than this, so to say that its Harper's fault this will be a deficit budget is ridiculous. Plus, when Harper said we wouldn't be running a deficit, that was (1) before the coalition, (2) before the economy got worse, (3) before job losses got worse.

Lots has changed in the months since he made that statement. If you're going to lay blame, at the least blame all the parties for their stupid games that led to this new budget, and in reality the blame should be laid firmly on the doorstep of the coalition as many of these policies were done to compromise with them.


Prof. Pye Chartt
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MONEY, MONEY, MONEY

An economic "Hail Mary" pass thrown by a beleaguered Prime Minister with a political cap gun held to his head by a self-interested Coalition. Brilliant!

Threats, threats, threats. Spending, spending, spending. Debt, debt, debt. Pray, pray, pray. Stimulate, stimulate, stimulate.

There you have it, my fellow Canadians. The government ran up our credit card to throw us a big economic party; just like we wanted. Let's all enjoy now!

End Note: Perhaps when we all have time, we can discuss how to fix our broken multi-party, multi-interest, multi-ideology parliamentary system.


George M
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Windsor ON has to suck up the job lost. They will have to do the same as the East Coast had to do after the demise of the fisheries. Retrain or leave home, The majority of the working class on the East Coast had and have already done it.


proud canadian
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Well concerned Canadian,
Why is Layton voting against the budget if he forced Harper to do it. That just doesn't make sense.The only reason they wanted a coalition government was for power, it had nothing to do with helping Canadians.Most of us know that,sorry you don't.


Ken - Calgary
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People, honestly... HARPER AND HIS CREW MUST BE SHOWN THE DOOR!


Kevin J
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Flip-Flop Flaherty, and Bait 'n Switch Harper have put the finishing touches on the destruction of Canada. They have been following the Bush plan from the start and they will continue to follow it even though they watched Bush drive off a cliff into the abyss.

Only a few weeks ago Flip-Flop Flaherty and Bait 'n Switch Harper were telling us how well positioned we were and that we would run a surplus. WOW .. things sure change quickly.

Where did Harper get his B.A. in Economics from ... I don't want to send my kids to that school! Maybe he was getting his Stats from the Neo-Con Fraser Institute.


Craig from Calgary
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This budget is in response to all the unions, Liberals, NDP, Block, etc. crying foul.

If you are one of the above and don't like it, you should have voted Conservative so we wouldn't have this mess.

Cut taxes for the middle class and poor, build some infrastructure we are going to need anyway and lets get on with it.




Mary Clarke
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Ad Constantino,
Maybe the Conservatives should just do like the liberals di. Mve our own money around,and then claim a surplus. That's exactly what they did,when they diverted $55 BILLION from the E.I. fund.
Or do you think that maybe they should just download even more expenses onto the Provinces,like the Libs did with education,welfare and health care?
Boy,the Libs can easily fool the sheeple.


small business owner in Western Canada
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If you spent the millions of dollars that you want to spend making a few skating rinks on supporting lines of credit/loans to small and medium sized companies, your money would be far better spent! We need to keep the backbone of our economy going, not spending money on skating rinks. Yes, making those rinks will produce jobs, but they will not put the money into the economy in the same dollar for dollar that providing loan guarantees to small and medium sized companies would do that create higher value at the end. What we need is smart spending - not frivalous spending.


US has cut taxes for eight years and run deficits
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US is collapsing.

Harper goes: Yes, Master.





nanamimoguy
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Think I read about another 'coalition' gov't that failed... just the other day... ICELAND! hmmm seems everywhere in this world people can't get along... and political views can't work together... Seems they have some problems with several parties 'trying' to work together... Perhaps people in high places with power get too much pride!


GG
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Well I dont know what the game plan is to pay off this massive deficit spending ?

The tax cuts are so minimal they wont cause any increase in consumer spending..but is a nice political perk...particularly when there is no chance of paying this off in at least 5 years according to the government. Harper and Flaherty will be longggggggggg gone. And nothing for small business..oh wait.. dont small business constitute 80% of the economy in Canada...this is pure Conservative budgeting + liberal spending....= what a mess. Less tax revenues in the future to pay OUR debt off....egads we're mortgaging our kids and grandkids futures for sure. I understand the stimulus...I dont understand the tax cuts at this time...unless its political pandering. Let's face it people like tax cuts..when in fact we are in deficit spending mode and need the tax dollars to repay the huge deficit/accrued debt. I know the Conservatives need to apease their base when they need to be forced into deficit spending but permament tax cuts makes paying off the deficit/debt all that much harder and longer and passed on to future generations to do so. That being said the budget will pass and history will judge this government on the merits of its content and results.


Colby in Vancouver
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Some people have really bought into what the Liberals and NDP are selling! A) the Tories haven't come "crying to us saying that it's not their fault that they ran out of money", and B) this isn't a "stupid foolish mistake", it's a global economic meltdown caused largely outside our borders. People blaming this on the Tories don't want a government, they want wizardry.

The Tories didn't want deficits, but as I recall, the opposition pretty much told them that they'd defeat any budget that didn't include massive spending to stimulate the economy. Now they blame the Tories for deficits. What do they want? Anyone else confused?


TODAYS DEFICITS = TOMORROWS TAXES
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mike in london said it best TODAYS deficits are tomorrows Taxes. WOW 190 000 jobs put them on EI and save me my money. You take 52 % of my inocme and now are going to give it to people with out a job. As Judge judy would say go pick up cans. Its surprising when a person needs a job how creative they will become. This stimulus package is going to stop us from becomeing innovative. Way to go no new ideas and a 80 billion deficit to boot. Hope my children can afford to eat after paying this off.


Dan Georges
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Dan from southern ontario

Well all this is well and dandy but did anyone think about how much this is going to cost us later i predict we will lose about 18% of our take home income in 3 to 5 years and this will continue for more than 10 years is this bail out worth it noway why are we bailing out banks and big business anyway and their still giving themselves big bonusus or are our politicians getting a cut?????


Lyn
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It's a real shame that this much effort and energy isn't put into improving the lives of the children who live in poverty. Remember way back in 1989 when the government agreed to end child poverty by 2000? This budget will help somewhat, but we do need children to have enough food (42% of all food bank users are children) adequate and affordable homes (many low income live in poor living conditions due to having to take what they can afford), and their parents do need decent paying jobs with benefits. In this county over half of all workers are precariously employed. Many “working poor” families do not have medical, dental and vision care benefits, not ensuring preventative care leads to higher costs financially and health wise down the road.

Workers that have paid EI find it harder to qualify, wait longer for less money (now 55%.. used to be 60%) so I guess it's nice that they will now get 5 more weeks, I wonder if the qualifying period has been reduced or the percentage of income has increased..
Apparently the Canadian government brought about positive change to the social infrastructure after the war (during a recession) by bringing in such programs as social housing, and Medicare, there is no reason why we cannot turn this recession into a positive by taking a similar action now. It is a known fact that by increasing the income of lower/middle class it has a positive effect on the local economy as money will be spent right away on good and services.
Reducing GST did not seem to put any more money in my pocket, maybe if I were buying big ticket items? If 1% could have been directed to reducing child poverty there would be 50% less children now in poverty.








JRH from LA
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@ AD Constantino
Are you kidding me? How the heck can you blame the Conservatives for the huge upcoming deficit. They wanted to keep spending down during these times; it was the Grits that told the Conservatives to start spending or else they would bring down the Conservatives' government! Please, at least pay attention to the underlying issues before you comment!


Mario Novati
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Mario
I do not trust Harper and friends. Before approuving the budget you should ask for guaranteed. Too many promest and never respected.


Trent
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Can't beleaive some of the comments nobody new this was going to be this big of down turn... If things start picking up debit will be less. But As much as I would like a tax break know is not the time.But I do like were they are putting some of the money,like some people say you can't please everyone. So please breath,as far as some people say the liberials paid us out of debit no it was us the people with high taxes,so if you want to loose more of your hard earn dollare vote liberial or ndp...



Larry I Ontario
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This is the worst budget I have ever seen. All we are doing is borrowing against our childrens future. We have had over ten years of sacrifice to get out of debt and now they are turning back the clock to 1998. We can not afford these huge deficits. I see nothing in this budget to really help people to pay the mortgage and buy food and fill up their cars and still have money left over. I would like to see more specifics about job training as I fear this money would just create another HRDC boomdoggle. Time to turf out the conservatives and let the Liberals get things under control. As someone mentioned, Flarrey screwed up Ontario and now he intends on screwing up the rest of Canada.


N Eyolfson
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The NDP and Bloc Quebecois just proved what most of us poor working peons have known all along, that they are power-hungry and have no interest in the people who elected them. In these harsh economic times when governments are toppling, they choose to topple the government of Canada. For what purpose? The NDP will never have a majority, and the rest of Canada does not want a majority with the Bloc. It is time for these two parties to wake up and smell the coffee, listen to their constituents, and do what is in the best interest of Canada as a whole, not their parties individually. I now officially have nothing but disdain for both parties. Shame on you Mr. Layton and Mr. Duceppe!


Jay
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Chris
The states is in worse shape then canada.


Look Out For # 1
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People...At the end of the day, I will continue to live as normal. I will strugglet to pay my bills, deal with life issues and listen to the news about how bad the economy is. Quite frankly, I could care less. I am looking out for my own best interests, as I suspect everyone is. The federal budget means nothing to the average person. It just sounds like a lot of spending. All I know ...is the last thing I want is the the Bloc proping up the Liberals and NDP. Let's get serious people ... hunker down and pray for daylight.


Todd in Calgary
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Yes why dont we put the Liberals back in office. Their own party is bankrupt, they could do a much better job with this budget. Lets all remember it was Trudeau that brought in all of the social programs and we have been broke ever since. Or lets get Jean back, at least everyone in Quebec would be happy to get another add hand out. Or better yet NDP!!
social program after social program. At least with infustructure spending someone actually has to work to get the money.


D in Calgary
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After reading the comments posted thus far I believe I can summize what is a key issue with canadian politics. Stupid people, people who think we shouldn't run a deficit as the world economy suffers (perhaps no job is better), people who blame the a current government for the WORLD WIDE recession, people who think any other party would spend less, people who think a coalition including separatists would be better for Canada. Come on, there no good way through this recession, it's going to hurt, and we are all going to feel it. When polititions have to try to please ideologies like some of those espoused here in this forum it's no wonder we end up with bad pilicy.


ASpenc
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On the whole a brilliant budget. It gives everything asked for but not without some effort on the part of those requesting spending, e.g. the municipalities, politicos and socialists must anti up the support to ensure this goes forward!


Will, Alberta
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Charles from Ontario wrote
"If you make $10,300 - you save $90

If you make $41,000 - you save $750

If you make $81,000 + - you save $1750

Talk about giving breaks to those that need it"

OF COURSE! The people that pay the most will always be the ones that receive the biggest breaks. Let me put it another way for you. These are not refunds. The feds are just taking less of OUR money. The person that makes $10k pays ZERO TAXES!! and the person making $81,000 pays roughly $14-$15k in taxes. When the government takes less, who should they take less from? Pretty tough to take less than zero. Or maybe people that work hard and earn higher salaries just give their money to others until everyone is equal? That would work beautifully I'm sure.





Francis Doyle
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steven Harper and his cronies has blown the billions of dollars in riches that make a country solid as steele. Of course it was created by the elected liberal party of Canada after the previous conservative cronies under then Brian Mulrony nearly bankrupted this country. And as always, the financial mess of this counrty has always reversed after the conservatives get their pink slips!
I hope the liberals vote Steven Harper out the door as quickly as possible so this great country con start to prosper again!


Harry
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As much as I would like a tax break, I can't accept a 85 Billion debt over the next number of years especially when the tories may not be in power. In December with their financial statement everything was rosie. The Liberals were asking for the true numbers. Well it looks like the real numbers show that Harper was again lying to Canadians. At Least with a coalition we will know where we stand. I hope Iggy sends harper packing.


LH
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And Harper is not a weak leader for including provisions the Coalition demanded, that is what happens in a minority government. And he is doing what's best for the country, we do not need the political instability and uproar that the coalition would cause if they try to take over again. He is compromising, that is not weak, that is how things get done in a minority government when the other 3 parties are threatening you, remember the statements that they better see a new budget? Or how about Layton and the Bloc, voting it down before seeing it? What else was Harper supposed to do? He is trying to work with them, too bad its like working with 4 yr olds having a temper tantrum.


Concerned Canadian
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Well "proud Canadian" Layton is voting against this budget because it doesn't go far enough, in his view, to helping ordinary Canadians. That remains to be seen, but the fact is that without the coalition forcing his hand, Mr. Harper would have given us a budget that was even less helpful. Harper went as far as he could, far enough to bring the Liberals on board. The fact that Mr. Layton and the NDP haven't joined is not the issue- the point is that the Tories have been forced to consider the wishes of the majority.

Most Canadians, I think, will figure this out. Think it thorough, and you will too.

oh, and by the way, "sweet, real sweet" if this budget is voted down (which it won't be) you're not going to get an election. The government will fall on a vote of non-confidence, and the coalition will take over. Haven't you been paying attention?


GHW
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THIS IS CRAZY!!!

Stephan Dion would know what to do. God I miss him.



Ron Kamloops, B.C.
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Great Country. Great Government. Great Conservative policies. Great Budget. We are better of than 86% of other countries.Lets live & be positive!


JD Justason
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Oddly enough, I somewhat agree with Glenn on this. If each person was given a sum of money instead of handing over to resources to encourage the spending, then wouldn't we just spend it anyway? Better yet, just clear off all financial debts, BUT THEN introduce much tougher laws on spending (i.e. less loan taking and less applying for credit cards for the sake of spending alone) that compels us, the citizens of Canada, to spend money more wisely.


Pat of the south
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The budget is interesting. I'm not sure if tax cuts and deficit spending go hand in hand or not. There were some interesting theories on both sides. But what is giving money to the 'arts' do for the economy? Tax cuts to small bussiness again. The owners are the only ones who prosper - not the minimum wage workers. Nothing more needs to be said about the NDP - they are Canada's joke. And lastly - the liberals never created a deficit??? Give me strength - thats all they knew!!!


Albertaclipper
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Hey all you Libs and Dippers. I don't know why you're complaining. We're doing exactly what your idol O'bama is doing in the US. Y'all should be happy as pigs..in you know where.


Great leadership if you like to owe money!
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LMAO... what else can you do! The Tories have done it again, pain(t) us into the red.


Dan from Northern Ont
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It irks me that thanks to the left coalition, we were headed toward a large budget regardless if they took power or not. It would be nice if they started cutting the fat off some of the more questionable programs we've had to pay for throughout the last 20+ years.

Still, you can't bleed a stone, and a recession means more and more people on social support, businesses closed, etc, meaning a drop in government income and a deficit anyways, that no amount of surplus was going to absorb.


prairie boy
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I think getting rid of bilingualism would help with limiting the deficit - I can only imagine what we spend to have everything in two official languages. While we're at it, let's redefine parliament such that parties have to have seats in ridings across Canada - then maybe we wouldn't be on this minority government roller coaster!


Johno
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This hardcore conservative supporter wants this budget to fail.

Too much spending.

Too liberal in giving money to people who don't even want to work for it.


Jason in Edmonton
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I'd like to start by stating that I do not like Harper, he is an egomaniac. That said, with the exception of the tax cuts (which are more ideological than effective or logical) this budget is basically what Iggy and the Liberals wanted. While I would love to see Harper and Flaherty out on their ears, they, meaning all four parties, have already wasted two months with the bullying by Harper and the whining by the Coalition. Ammend the parts of the budget that aren't acceptable and get on with the business of government.


vic in Edmonton
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If any of you think that the Libs or the Nerds could have done any better than you really are not thinking. What ever party votes this down only means that they would have spent more and done more harm to Canada. The Libs can not vote this down it is what is needed to get us out of the mess the Liberals & NDP put us in


Randy
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For those of you who are bitching about this budget, suck it up, this is exactly what the opposition parties wanted and would have done if left up to them. And now they want to vote it down. Go ahead, I would love to watch the Conservatives destroy the Liberals and NDP in an election. If we don't get back to a two party system, we will never see an end to this kind of turmoil.


Blair
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These guys can call each other names all they want! But when it comes to recession and deficit I save my money. I won't be spending anytime soon. I think most Canadians will be doing the same? Thats what my parents as did my grandparents and they survived dept free...


Mike, Calgary
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People should know this is a Liberal budget, but you can blame Harper too for not standing up to his convictions. Glenn's proposal (of $1million to each Canadian), by the way, would cost $35 trillion. Who's going to pay for that?


Vic in Edmonton
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Mile Zero? guess what my friend they all said they would not go into a defecit during the debate. If you think what the cons did was wrong how much do you think the Libs or NDP would have spent??


Dennis in Calgary
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The only thing those two left wing whiners would support would be economic irresponsibility.


Can't respect Harpie
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If Harper were true to his ideologies and principals he'd have put forth a budget he believed in and let the chips fall where they may.
It is impossible to respect someone who is going against everything they've ever said, simply to remain in power. What a joke.


Donna
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Well now that we have all the "liberal media" responding to the budget here, do we still not realize that this is A GLOBAL RECESSION, not just Canadian?! Can anyone here predict what the world economy is going to be like in the next 6 months or even 1 year from now? Wow, if you can, then kudos to you, for the God like power. Nothing that this government would propose right now would sit right with Layton. He simply wants Harper gone, so he can get more media time and perhaps a glimpse into a cabinet....please.....!!! And the liberals ... well, this budget was put together for all the yelling and screaming they did, demanding a huge budget, stimulus deficit, so now they can blame Harper for something else. The libs would make sure their corporate and willy nilly relatives were looked after first. Of course, Iggy has to veto something in the budget, to earn his keep and make himself look like he really knows what Canadians need. Do you honestly think that Canada could "exempt" our country from the GLOBAL RECESSION? Sorry folks, it just doesn't work that way. Bring on the election and let us finally have a majority Conservative government. Remember the words "GLOBAL RECESSION", it's happening all around us!


Brian Mulroney
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Great Budget


nik in ontario
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Wow. It's amazing that Jungle Jim somehow manages to screw up budgets to quickly. I remember the crazy Harris years in Ontario. Thank God they're over. Conservatives seem to be very, very fiscally irresponsible. It seems they have ceded this high ground to Liberals everywhere. We're gonna need a Liberal government to dig us out of this mess in a few years. The nightmare will be over soon.


Walter (Winnipeg)
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