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Josh Visser, CTV.ca News
Date: Tue. Jan. 27 2009 11:07 PM ET
After months of speculation, Finance Minister Jim Flaherty tabled a federal budget on Tuesday that is big on income tax cuts and even bigger on deficits.
Flaherty's spending plan includes $40 billion in economic stimulus over the next two years in the form of infrastructure spending and tax cuts.
The budget comes at a massive cost -- $85 billion in deficit over the next five years. The deficit in the 2009-2010 fiscal year will be a shade under $34 billion.
The budget is remarkably different than any other one proposed by the Conservatives under Prime Minister Stephen Harper -- with massive government spending on everything from roads, social housing to the arts.
"We must do what it takes to keep our economy moving, and to protect Canadians in this extraordinary time," Flaherty said. "Making new investments is more challenging in such a time; but it is also more necessary than ever."
If all goes according to Flaherty's plan, the government estimates about 190,000 jobs will be created or saved, and the economy will grow by 1.0 per cent over the next two years.
Flaherty told CTV's "On the Hill" that Canadians across that country have told him they want government to be pragmatic -- and do what it needs to do to protect Canada from a global recession.
"And the same time we heard, 'invest for the future,'" he added, noting his budget includes major cash for universities, such as $1 billion towards clean-energy research.
Both the NDP and the Bloc Quebecois have stated that they will be voting against the budget. In order for it to pass, the support of the Liberals is needed.
Liberal Leader Michael Ignatieff says he will make an announcement about whether his party will support the budget at 11 a.m. Wednesday. He will meet with his caucus Tuesday evening.
Pundits have noted that much of the budget does seem to meet the requirements Ignatieff put forth for his support and the Liberal leader seemed cautiously pleased with the document when speaking to reporters.
"There are some developments in this budget that would have been unthinkable before Christmas," Ignatieff said. "That is to say the government has responded to the combined pressure of the opposition parties and those results are positive."
He did add he had some "concerns" about the permanent tax cuts and will have to study them further.
Massive deficits forecasted
The deficits proposed will virtually wipe out a decade of debt repayments - nearly 85 per cent paid back to 1998.
Flaherty announced that the government has already slipped into deficit, and will post a shortfall of about $1.1 billion in the current fiscal year that ends March 31.
It is the first deficit since the 1996-1997 fiscal year.
The surprise move of the day was the roughly $2 billion per year in income tax cuts. Those cuts will extend to $20 billion over the next six years.
The tax changes will include a slight increase in the basic personal exemption and raising the upper limit on the two lowest personal income-tax brackets.
A single person making $40,000 will save $115 a year due to the changes, according to the Department of Finance's online budget calculator. A one-earner, family of four making $60,000 would save $275.
A single parent of one child making $30,000 would save $297, while a senior couple on one $40,000 per year pension would save $366.
Business tax cuts were also included in the budget, $2 billion over six years.
Government spending will jump dramatically in the budget -- up nine per cent in the 2009-2010 and three per cent in the year following.
EI benefits will also be extended five weeks for the next two years.
Gov't forecast optimistic: experts
Patricia Croft, chief economist at RBC Global Asset Management, told CTV News that the budget seems to "have something in there for pretty much everyone."
However, she said that there is a bit of a "fingers crossed" on behalf of the government in terms of getting back in the black in five years.
"It assumes a fairly healthy rebound in the Canadian economy," Croft said of the budget's fiscal estimates.
"There will be no long-running or permanent deficit," Flaherty promised. However, he did add a slight adjustment to that statement.
"While our projections are based on the best possible information, we cannot guarantee them absolutely."
Other economists echoed Croft's concerns about the government's optimistic economic forecasts.
Dale Orr, managing director of Canadian Macro Services at Global Insight, told CTV's "On the Hill" that Canadians "are going to be in a very tough situation to the end of this year."
"I am not quite as optimistic as Mr. Flaherty," he said. However, Orr said Canada is going to be in "very good shape" compared to other countries in its readiness to deal with the global economic downturn.
But Flaherty says that his budget is cautious and says the worst could be yet to come.
"The U.S. economy has not hit bottom, some of the European banks are still not okay, there is still some banking turbulence in the United States so I am being very cautious and we have to be ready for a difficult year," he told "On the Hill."
The government is estimating the debt-to-GDP ratio will increase from 28.6 in the current fiscal year to 32.1 per cent by 2010-11 because of the deficits.
The government says the ratio will be below the current year's by 2013-14.
In an interview with CTV on Monday, Prime Minister Stephen Harper urged his Parliamentary colleagues to "stop the political games and get on with the business of passing some of these economic measures."
If his budget is defeated, Harper said "we'll have to go to an election and the people will have to decide this."
Federal budget highlights at a glance:
- $85 billion deficit over the nest five years
- Personal taxes down $20 billion over six years
- Business taxes cut by $2 billion over six years
- $12 billion for infrastructure spending towards roads, sewers and universities, $1 billion for "green" infrastructure, and $1 billion for clean-energy research.
- $1.5 billion for job training programs
- $7.8 billion for social housing and home renovation, including a one-year only Home Renovation Tax Credit of up to $1,350 per household.
- $2.7 billion in short-term loans to the auto industry.
- More than $1.4 billion for aboriginal schools, health, water, housing, community services and training.
- About $325 million for arts and culture.


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glenn
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Brian in Edmonton
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Harper and the Conservatives will lead us out of this recession, its just going to take some time.
Jay, Ottawa
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LondonMike
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AD Constantino
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It's time for the Grits to balance the books & remove the mess caused by Harper & his team.
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Karl from GTA
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Steven Harper said during the election that there would be no deficit... now $84B!
He is a liar. His party is fiscally irresponsible! Time for the coalition or simply for us to vote for a Majority Liberal Government!
Shame Harper, shame!
Scott - Libral in Calgary
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Mike - NWO
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Do some research, would you!! Giving each Cdn a million dollars would cost over $33 trillion dollars and that million dollars would be worthless b/c our dollar would be worthless.
I hope you were kidding. Or maybe your just a hippy. Or NDP supporter.
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Mile Zero BC
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They spent Canada dry over the past 3 years using up as well the over $13 billion in surplus; now the cupboard is bare and they come crying to us saying it's not their fault they ran out of money.
JP
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Finance Minister Jim Flaherty screwed up Ontario when he was in power and got the boot - now he alone with Harper will screw up Canada
Shopaholic
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BB
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Our generation, children’s generation and grand children’s generation will be paying off this stupid foolish mistake.
Linda S
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Kojak
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The Widowmaker
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Mark Ruth
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winnipeg
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And more debt again for this country.. Who bails out the small business that are going down?
Jim in Ontario
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Dan from Ontario
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Wes
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Brad Ottawa,
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Mark M
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Bring the Toris down !!
It's time for the Grits to balance the books & remove the mess caused by Harper & his team. "
ARE YOU KIDDING ME??? And how will they do that, by raising taxes? Sucking funds out of the EI fund? Oh, wait, I know, how about using adscam money to start new businesses and hiring workers.
Give me a break, there is nothing wrong with a deficit in times like this. It's temporary and necessary. Talk to people from the Trudeau area about "temporary" liberal deficits...
If the lib$ were in charge this deficit would be twice as big and twice as long! Give you head a shake!
Needed
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Terri
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Michelle
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He sold his soul, that is what he did.
Don Jones
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Mike
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I'm not even going to see a difference as it works out to about $7.69 per paychque... wow, now I can afford a coffee at Starbucks.... whipty flippin do.
Jason
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We need a coalition and maybe they'll have better ideas. Maybe even touch the real issue at the heart of our problem, resource depletion and fossil fuel dependency.
Bob NS>
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Shon Curren
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It is unfortunate that we are all in this predictament.
We have to stick together, help each other, and do with a little less.
What concerns me the most is the coalition's focus is on gaining access to power at a time when all Canadian's made their choice to elect Harper to lead us out of these times.
If we all work together without hidden agendas we will overcome, as we always do.
I am pleased by my choice to vote for Harper, and it is about time that someone did something to help the working poor.
As a middle-class income earner, my wife and I still have difficultly in saving for a downpayment on a home.
I wish for a time when all Canadians will work together for the greater cause so every family can take a deep breath of relief that our elected officials will do the right thing for us, not for their party.
Lets hope this is the right step towards healing our current state, and lets get to the hard work in building a united, strong competitive Canada for the future.
Sincerely,
S. Curren, Milton, ON
I support the budget
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If the Coalition votes down the budget, guess what, Ignatieff will introduce the same budget - he has to. The Bloc and NDP just show that they are clueless.
I am a small business owner - tax cuts are great for me.
Remember folks, this is a global recession not just a Canadian one. Irregardless if the Liberals had a surplus (which was from extremely high taxes and no spending on things like health care), there would have been a deficit budget.
Business woman- In Edmonton
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I see nothing but action in this budget. Globally we will be watched - Canada will be a leader rising from the global recession quicker and faster than the other G8
Lou77
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If we didn't run a big deficit, our economy would risk a collapse in the next year. It has nothing to do with our own strength, but the fact that the USA is circling the economic drain. Most of these are VERY necessary protective measures.
You practice fiscal conservatism (ala Chretien/Martin, or Flaherty/Harper) during the good times so you have access to capital and credit when times are bad.
The Liberals didn't "fix" the Mulroney era - they just got into power as a recession was ebbing out.
Layton in NB
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But remember these clowns were either utterly utterly incompetent or bald faced liars during the last election. The man Canada seemed to love to hate, Stephan Dion and yea, even myself on this very forum, were right. That there was a crisis. And that something had to be done. But I gotta say they fools may have listened at least a little bit.
Andrew
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sounds expensive
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Mark
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Second, Yes you have to cut taxes to get out of a recession. Public spending has NEVER reversed a recession or depression. The spending has to come from the private sector. The good part of the budget is the tax cuts. But there should have been more cuts and less spending.
Steve
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1% cut in GST equates to roughly $6-7 billion dollars out of gov't revenue. Since we're done 2% that's $12-13 billion gone. For the average consumer, we do not really see this savings. It's only the people with the money - buying big ticket items - that realize such savings. Need to rethink ... Do not agree with this astronmical amount.
Steve A
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A Proud New Brunswicker
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They responded to the Opposition wishes...This is a Coalition budget plain and simple.. but alas voters and forum posters can't remember a thing except what Harper and Flaherty said back in the fall when things still looked a bit better. Maybe you should rewind to late November and early December and listen to what the 3 Opposition leaders were saying needed to be in the budget.... I'll bet almost to the letter it is all there...and more....
Daryl H
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Deficit spending is what the liberals, Ndp and media have been calling for.
Charles, Ontario
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If you make $41,000 - you save $750
If you make $81,000 + - you save $1750
Holy crap! talk about giving tax cuts to people who don't need them. Besides, most people I know making 100K + already work for the gov't.
RD
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It is the conservatives that are leading this country to DEBT DEBT DEBT. Harper is one of the worst thing that happened to this country
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G.McQuarrie
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Retired Soldier in Kingston, ON
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However, voters should be aware that if the country does not pay off an estimated $660 Billion + debt, the currency will collapse as investors and sovereign nations avoid investing in this country.
Ergo, lets not spend hard earned tax-payer dollars on ill thought out infrastructure boondoggles. Construction projects should be well thaought out, costed,
surveyed and properly constructed by competent tradespeople.
Politicians, the bulk of whom are lawyers, are ill suited for these tasks.
Finally, be careful what you ask for - it may be granted to you!!
Canadian citizens, politicians, municipal governments and institutions have been spending way beyond their means for years. A culture of entitlement exists in this country.
We need to heed what has happened in America where unbridled spending, irresponsible corporate governance and excessive greed have turned the American economy and the housing sector into a basketcase.
Good luck to Stephen Harper and his cabinet!!
Pro Patria
Derek in Calgary
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Geoff
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The debt figures are yours to see on the Statistics Canada web site.
Please no matter what party we support lets try to make an informed decision not an emotional one. If not democracy cannot work.
Nicholas
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While Im not thrilled about the deficit, as long as its temporary its ok. ANd many other countries are going into deficits far worse than us.
Also regarding Flaherty and the so called mess the Ontario provincial tories left behind, you have to remember that part of the reason for the deficit was mad cow and Walkerton. Also, Ernie Eves abandoned the common sense revolution to gain votes.
Colin Bell
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The only time you would acknowledge a budget proposal being the right thing to do, is if the budget was announced by another party.
Please take your partisan crap somewhere else.
Rob from Peterborough
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As for laying "shame" on Harper for saying what he said about balanced budgets during the election, perhaps those should look back at all of the major party leaders who all promised balanced budgets during the campaign.
In regards to the current economy, while are others out their failing to realize that we were the last country in the G-20 to go into recession and we're forecst to be the first out of it. Couple that with the fact that 84 billion over 5 years isn't that much when you compare it to the U.S. (the root of the entire global economic crisis) who plan to use 1.5 TRILLION dollars in bailout money this year alone. Oh and as a last note, to those who think the Libs are the one to get us out of this like in the 90's that's fine, if you like having higher taxes, and less in transfers for things like health care.
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No I do not support any of the stands of any party but the one in power now has to go and fast
Shirley in Saskatoon
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Dave in Toronto
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Kris D.
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"Today's deficits are tomorrow's taxes."
This statement is priceless. It should be tattooed on Jim Flaherty’s forehead so he remembers.
David From Windsor
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Vickie B Alberta
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When the PM started to announce his cutbacks and decreasing of political party revenues on the backs of taxpayers, you all screamed.
Now the coalition threat is holding a gun to the head of the PM. He has been left with no choice but to spend. Worst is, it is money we don't have. We will not have. Us normal, middle class, over taxed, hard working people will pay for this new budget.
Way to go coalition and all the supporters. You got what you asked for, now shut up and lets get on with digging our country out of this recession.
Wish we could say, "Yes we can", but Canada's motto will probably be...."I doubt we will"
Parksville Bill.
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Keep going Mr. Harper.
Mary-Ann Winnipeg
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Personally, I am NDP provincially, and always have been Liberal federally. However, that being said, this Conservative budget I believe contains the necessary steps needed to keep our Canada strong.
Norman in Montreal
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Constitution question
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JP in london
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Drew in NS
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Gilles wants to be Minister of Seperation and Seclusion.
Jack the Knife has already stated it's not about getting financial aid to suffering Canadian, It all about Layton's Hate for Harper. Jack it's time you go, you have become a very bitter person.
Team Harper all the way, bring on the election lets decide this once and for all.
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Steve the Pundit
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- the opposition will vote against this at their own peril. Simply saying they won't vote for the budget because "they don't trust Harper" is insane. But then again, we ARE dealing with Jack and Gilles...
- I hope the spending is staged in such a way that, if we come out of this as fast as the Bank of Canada last week said we would, we could cancel some of this unbelieveable spending. Governments have been spending way too much in boon years; there's no way they should be spending even MORE when times are bad
- don't know about everyone else, but my tax cuts will be gladly accepted and promptly spent so I can "do my part". What knuckleheads would not want to be able to spend their OWN money as they see fit, as opposed to flushing it down a government sinkhole?
- I can't help but wonder what type of budget we'd get if we'd elected a Conservative MAJORITY? One that perhaps doesn't try to curry favor with opposition parties that would vote it down even if gold-plated public housing was promised to the homeless? WIth some luck, maybe we'll get that chance yet...
A true Liberal wish list.
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1.4 billion on top of the billions the Indians already get?????
This is the ultimate Liberal wish list disguised as a stimulus, that Iggy will whine about but have to vote for or start packing and move back to the U.S.
Jack bin Layton will be wetting himself, with glee, but has already sealed his fate by broadcasting his NO vote ahead of time. Good Riddance Jacko!
Mike M
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Because that's what would happen to any one of us that lowered our income and increased our purchases with an already whopping debt load.
Bring on the election!
And PLEASE stop saying it's not the conservatives' fault, they were 'forced' into this by the opposition. If that's the case, then he's a pretty weak leader and needs to be booted to the curb. When will Harperites start holding him responsible for his ineptitude?
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Harper is candy coated this budget - mind games just daring anyone to vote against it thinking the public is eager for tax cuts.
Please think, do you really want to hand over $85 Billion of debt to your children and grand children again and again????
Mac in Winnipeg
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mrsnade
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Hey where can I get this training? If it's only for IE recipients, then I guess it wasn't such a good idea to go into business for myself was it.
todd barclay
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If the "Coalition" hadn't created this mess over nothing, we would have had a more reasonable budget. This deficit rests on Layton, Iggy, and Doucet... they are the ones who have forced this. People are right we will be paying for this for years. Bring on an election so we can vote for the Conservatives and actually get them in.
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Unlike the Trudeau/Mulroney defecits this has been brought on by a world reccesion and we should be thankful this government (probably with the support of the Libs) has the nuts to do it.
Times will change, good times will return and I don't mind helping those who are hurting, support this budget.
Kim B
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Anyways I can't believe some of the supid comments on here. Someone said "Lets put the Grits back in to clean up the budget. Gee I think it was Trudue who started deficit budgets in the first place. At least with the conservatives running things we don't have to worry about the Libs giving it to Quebec advertising companies......how soon we forget. But really we have no political brains in Canada.
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Mo Chaudhury
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I am horified abou the size of thedeficit, it si only a matter of time before the interest rates and the marginal tax rates go up again, or health care gets darined again.
Bring back Martin/Chretien duo.
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The Canadian Government has already added new 2-year, 5-year, 10-year, and 30-year auctions to its new issuance of notes and bonds for the first quarter this year.
While this issue of over $77.6-billion in notes and bonds is more than in 2008, the Canadian Bond Market will not be flooded with debt, because the additional government issues will be filling a void left by the sharp decline in corporate bond issuance's.
Blake in Ottawa
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"We'll pay back the borrowed money with future surpluses" the finance minister said (or something close to it). But I don't believe it. Whenever we achieve any surpluses through painful social cost restructuring, the Conservatives cut taxes to eliminate these debt reducing surpluses.
I don't want to reward the Harper government mismanagement by passing this budget. Because other than the whopping huge deficit, I don't believe anything they say.
Beadle Winnipeg
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It's going to be interesting to see how the Liberals' spin doctors handle it.
BobLoblaw
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First they demanded spending in a recession. Then, talk of 30B wasn't enough. Next, the 64B announced was either too much or too little and finally 85B is definitely too much.
The reality is - if you lefties were honest, you LOVE the spending. You're just desperate for something to complain about.
If you were all honest, you'd say you don't really know what you're talking about but you just hate Harper and you don't know why.
It's that sort of ignorance that will help the Tories keep power for the foreseeable future.
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John in Calgary
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Chris - Red Deer
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Dale in Kanata
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it would show political greed when we should all be getting together to get out of this thing..
and for those of you blaming the c-tives for the economic trouble...please refer to THE REST OF THE WORLD!!!
Everybody is down right now. The EU, Japan, even OPEC with the oil prices so low...so please don't blame the government. It makes no sense and it counter-productive
Kevin (Rural Ontario)
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Nick in Gatineau
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WOW ! I can finally get that operation.
no help for us small companies - yet again!!!
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In order to spend money on those things you've provided for you need to assume that people actually have the cash to do so - we don't!
Denise in Brampton
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Way to go Harper!!!
Major Dad
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EI doesnt' seem to be helped at all, because EI is frozen so not everyone who apply are approved so how extending the EI for another 5 weeks help? Ok home renovation come on that is dumb i can't see anyone going out spending money on doing home renovation on their house plus it's only available till 2010 makes no sense. Oh and i love that big corps are getting more money than the canadian people. Honestly even with all these apparent saving on income tax ect... i won't be out and about spending i'll be saving cause once we get out of this recession i'll be prepared on the taxes to be increased double the amount they are today in the next few years this is just a little relief but wait till we are done the recession then BAM we have to pay out the butt to get out of debt.
Morley
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Is this not a free market society?
It will ensure that we will soon or later have large tax hikes, just when they were getting it under control
mel ontario
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Concerned Canadian
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The Canadian Parliamentary system has worked as it should, and the wishes of the majority of Canadians are being respected over the Tries' protests.
Of course, the budget isn't perfect- it isn't clear that giving tax breaks to the middle class and thereby increasing the deficit is the wisest thing to do. But there is some help for the broad spectrum of the Canadian people.
Let there be no mistake - this is a victory for the coalition and a loss for the Tories, whose previous budget would have left all of us in deep trouble. And rather than complaining that the coalition was somehow "undemocratic," I hope people have come to understand that it was Mr. Harper's refusal to fund the opposition parties that in fact was the greatest threat to democracy here in Canada.
All Canadians should be proud that our system worked as well as it did to curb the excesses of the Tories' minority government. Many Canadians have come to learn how the Parliamentary system actually works!
Prediction: Mr. Ignatieff will express his concern about tax cuts for the middle class, but ultimately he will endorse the budget, having won a victory over the Tories. He has come through in a crisis. This bodes well for a resurgence of Liberal support.
Pat - Toronto
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JP in Halifax
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This is such an extreme over-reaction to a recession. Why do we need to mortgage some of the future to try to preserve industries that are dying? Let those industries die, take our lumps for a tear or two and emerge stronger for it.
We're becoming such a nanny state.
Put more money in the hands of people (tax cuts) instead of government, which is inherently the most inefficient vehicle to redistribute capital.
Sad. Are there no fiscal conservatives left anywhere on this planet?
Chris in Kingston
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Mario from NWT
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Budget Works For Me.
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Debt is the only way out of this WORLD WIDE recession! You think the Liberals or NDP would be able to table anything different?!?!
Everyone likes to blab about how the Liberals got us out of the national debt left by Mulroney....if you knew what you were talking about you would realize that when Mulroney become Prime Minister he was stuck with the debt from the previous Liberals. You all seem to forget that. In 2004/2005 under the Liberals our national debt was $500 billion, they never got us out of debt. Get your facts straight.
There should be no support for car buyers.
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AB
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Sweet, real sweet
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A win,win situation for Prime Minister Harper. Vote passes the Government survives. The Leftys vote it down and we elect a Conservative majority and get rid of the NDP and Bloc. SWeet!
Ottawa Dude
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LH
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Lots has changed in the months since he made that statement. If you're going to lay blame, at the least blame all the parties for their stupid games that led to this new budget, and in reality the blame should be laid firmly on the doorstep of the coalition as many of these policies were done to compromise with them.
Prof. Pye Chartt
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An economic "Hail Mary" pass thrown by a beleaguered Prime Minister with a political cap gun held to his head by a self-interested Coalition. Brilliant!
Threats, threats, threats. Spending, spending, spending. Debt, debt, debt. Pray, pray, pray. Stimulate, stimulate, stimulate.
There you have it, my fellow Canadians. The government ran up our credit card to throw us a big economic party; just like we wanted. Let's all enjoy now!
End Note: Perhaps when we all have time, we can discuss how to fix our broken multi-party, multi-interest, multi-ideology parliamentary system.
George M
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Why is Layton voting against the budget if he forced Harper to do it. That just doesn't make sense.The only reason they wanted a coalition government was for power, it had nothing to do with helping Canadians.Most of us know that,sorry you don't.
Ken - Calgary
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Kevin J
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Only a few weeks ago Flip-Flop Flaherty and Bait 'n Switch Harper were telling us how well positioned we were and that we would run a surplus. WOW .. things sure change quickly.
Where did Harper get his B.A. in Economics from ... I don't want to send my kids to that school! Maybe he was getting his Stats from the Neo-Con Fraser Institute.
Craig from Calgary
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If you are one of the above and don't like it, you should have voted Conservative so we wouldn't have this mess.
Cut taxes for the middle class and poor, build some infrastructure we are going to need anyway and lets get on with it.
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Maybe the Conservatives should just do like the liberals di. Mve our own money around,and then claim a surplus. That's exactly what they did,when they diverted $55 BILLION from the E.I. fund.
Or do you think that maybe they should just download even more expenses onto the Provinces,like the Libs did with education,welfare and health care?
Boy,the Libs can easily fool the sheeple.
small business owner in Western Canada
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US has cut taxes for eight years and run deficits
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Harper goes: Yes, Master.
nanamimoguy
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The tax cuts are so minimal they wont cause any increase in consumer spending..but is a nice political perk...particularly when there is no chance of paying this off in at least 5 years according to the government. Harper and Flaherty will be longggggggggg gone. And nothing for small business..oh wait.. dont small business constitute 80% of the economy in Canada...this is pure Conservative budgeting + liberal spending....= what a mess. Less tax revenues in the future to pay OUR debt off....egads we're mortgaging our kids and grandkids futures for sure. I understand the stimulus...I dont understand the tax cuts at this time...unless its political pandering. Let's face it people like tax cuts..when in fact we are in deficit spending mode and need the tax dollars to repay the huge deficit/accrued debt. I know the Conservatives need to apease their base when they need to be forced into deficit spending but permament tax cuts makes paying off the deficit/debt all that much harder and longer and passed on to future generations to do so. That being said the budget will pass and history will judge this government on the merits of its content and results.
Colby in Vancouver
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The Tories didn't want deficits, but as I recall, the opposition pretty much told them that they'd defeat any budget that didn't include massive spending to stimulate the economy. Now they blame the Tories for deficits. What do they want? Anyone else confused?
TODAYS DEFICITS = TOMORROWS TAXES
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Dan Georges
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Well all this is well and dandy but did anyone think about how much this is going to cost us later i predict we will lose about 18% of our take home income in 3 to 5 years and this will continue for more than 10 years is this bail out worth it noway why are we bailing out banks and big business anyway and their still giving themselves big bonusus or are our politicians getting a cut?????
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Workers that have paid EI find it harder to qualify, wait longer for less money (now 55%.. used to be 60%) so I guess it's nice that they will now get 5 more weeks, I wonder if the qualifying period has been reduced or the percentage of income has increased..
Apparently the Canadian government brought about positive change to the social infrastructure after the war (during a recession) by bringing in such programs as social housing, and Medicare, there is no reason why we cannot turn this recession into a positive by taking a similar action now. It is a known fact that by increasing the income of lower/middle class it has a positive effect on the local economy as money will be spent right away on good and services.
Reducing GST did not seem to put any more money in my pocket, maybe if I were buying big ticket items? If 1% could have been directed to reducing child poverty there would be 50% less children now in poverty.
JRH from LA
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Are you kidding me? How the heck can you blame the Conservatives for the huge upcoming deficit. They wanted to keep spending down during these times; it was the Grits that told the Conservatives to start spending or else they would bring down the Conservatives' government! Please, at least pay attention to the underlying issues before you comment!
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I do not trust Harper and friends. Before approuving the budget you should ask for guaranteed. Too many promest and never respected.
Trent
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Larry I Ontario
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Jay
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The states is in worse shape then canada.
Look Out For # 1
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Todd in Calgary
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social program after social program. At least with infustructure spending someone actually has to work to get the money.
D in Calgary
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Will, Alberta
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"If you make $10,300 - you save $90
If you make $41,000 - you save $750
If you make $81,000 + - you save $1750
Talk about giving breaks to those that need it"
OF COURSE! The people that pay the most will always be the ones that receive the biggest breaks. Let me put it another way for you. These are not refunds. The feds are just taking less of OUR money. The person that makes $10k pays ZERO TAXES!! and the person making $81,000 pays roughly $14-$15k in taxes. When the government takes less, who should they take less from? Pretty tough to take less than zero. Or maybe people that work hard and earn higher salaries just give their money to others until everyone is equal? That would work beautifully I'm sure.
Francis Doyle
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I hope the liberals vote Steven Harper out the door as quickly as possible so this great country con start to prosper again!
Harry
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Concerned Canadian
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Most Canadians, I think, will figure this out. Think it thorough, and you will too.
oh, and by the way, "sweet, real sweet" if this budget is voted down (which it won't be) you're not going to get an election. The government will fall on a vote of non-confidence, and the coalition will take over. Haven't you been paying attention?
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Stephan Dion would know what to do. God I miss him.
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Pat of the south
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Albertaclipper
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Great leadership if you like to owe money!
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Dan from Northern Ont
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Still, you can't bleed a stone, and a recession means more and more people on social support, businesses closed, etc, meaning a drop in government income and a deficit anyways, that no amount of surplus was going to absorb.
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Too much spending.
Too liberal in giving money to people who don't even want to work for it.
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Vic in Edmonton
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Dennis in Calgary
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Can't respect Harpie
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It is impossible to respect someone who is going against everything they've ever said, simply to remain in power. What a joke.
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