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Date: Monday Dec. 22, 2008 3:16 PM ET
OTTAWA It's going to get worse.
As bad as the past few months were, even the rosiest of economic forecasts shows on average Canadians will get poorer in 2009, and many -- perhaps as many as 200,000 additional workers -- will lose their jobs as the economic recession deepens.
The economic tsunami that was well below the surface as 2008 began hit Canada's shores with a crash in the fall and is only now washing deeper inshore swallowing an economy that once appeared impregnable -- having withstood both the Asian financial crisis a decade ago and the 9-11 fallout in the United States.
Prime Minister Stephen Harper described it best in a recent television interview in which he perhaps tellingly did not reject out of hand the possibility of a depression -- a deep economic downturn in which output shrinks by 10 per cent or more.
"I've never seen such uncertainty ... I'm very worried about the Canadian economy," he said, before explaining that governments had learned survival lessons from the 1930s depression that they are applying to the current situation.
But as Merrill Lynch's Canadian chief economist David Wolf put it: "Given the events of the past few months how can you rule anything out? Even us bears have been surprised at just how aggressively things have unravelled."
A key lesson of the Great Depression -- and a reason economists believe the damage can be contained shy of D-terrain -- is that governments must not sit idly by as the cancer spreads.
The U.S., Europe, China and others have already stepped to the plate with Ruthian stimulus packages worth trillions of dollars in total, and Harper has suggested spending measures in the $20-billion range are being prepared for the Jan. 27 budget, at a price of a huge deficit.
As well, Ottawa and Ontario announced Saturday that $4 billion will go into jump-starting the battered Canadian auto sector, with more likely to come as part of a North American industry restructuring.
The measures aren't necessarily going to be popular with Canadians, although they are likely a minimum condition for preventing a Liberal-NDP coalition, with the backing of the Bloc Quebecois, from seeking to dump the government once Parliament resumes in late January.
A Canadian Press Harris/Decima poll conducted in mid-month found only 39 per cent support for stimulus spending if it means Ottawa will go into deficit.
For policy makers, the deficit ship has long since sailed.
Even sober-minded economists don't see much to shout about in keeping government books in the black if it means the rest of the country sinks. If everyone else is too scared to spend their last dime, governments had better, they reason.
"Unfortunately it's necessary. Things could be very ugly if policy makers don't step in to support the economy, in certain cases specific industries," said Bank of Montreal deputy chief economist Douglas Porter.
"It's still going to be the weakest year since `91," agreed Dale Orr, managing director of IHS Global Insight. "The second half will be better than the first, thank goodness, but we'll need another year after that before we're back to the economy returning to potential."
Orr's analysis is shared almost universally among private sector economists, who have been busily revising even their bleakest forecasts in the past few weeks.
Last week, the Bank of Nova Scotia set the standard for low with a projection that the economy would shrink 1.2 per cent in 2009. A day later the Bank of Montreal did it one notch better at minus 1.3 per cent.
The shocker, however, is that most expect a seldom considered statistic called nominal gross domestic product -- which measures the value of what the country produces -- to become headline news next year as the wealth-effect of high commodity prices over the last six years gets reversed big time with oil in the tank and prices of minerals, grains, coal and other commodities also in decline.
Many are expecting nominal GDP to shrink by as much as three per cent in 2009, bringing lower corporate profits, lower government revenues and most importantly, lower wages for Canadians.
"That's a shrinking of the economic pie the likes of which we really haven't seen for generations," said Wolf.
The latest projections also predict Canada's unemployment rate will rise to about eight per cent, from the current 6.3 per cent, resulting in something Canadians also haven't seen in a generation, outright job losses of 200,000 from the recession's peak to trough.
While the jobless rise in 2009 will hurt, it's still a far cry from the last two recessions. Unemployment hit 13 per cent in the 1980-81 decline, when industrial North America -- mainly the steel and auto sectors -- went through a painful restructuring. In the early 1990s the recession hurt real estate and retail sectors and pushed the jobless rate to 10 per cent.
How do we get ourselves out of this mess?
A recovery is coming, economists say, and it's likely from a combination of several factors.
Surely some good must come from the trillions of dollars being poured into the economy from governments around the world, they figure.
The other bright spot -- although it's cold comfort to Canada's oilpatch -- comes from cheap oil, which will cut business costs and leave more money in the pockets of consumers around the world.
And then there's that fickle measure called consumer confidence, which has been dining on despair for months and sits at its lowest level in more than a quarter century.
Orr believes much of the loss of trust and confidence among investors and consumers stems from global markets' stomach-churning bungee jump since mid-September.
In Canada, the stock market has lost more than 40 per cent of its value since a mid-June record high, wiping out hundreds of billions of dollars of stock value and squeezing the investments of Canadians held in pension plans, stocks and mutual funds. That has made people feel poorer and tighten their wallets and companies from cutting investments and expansion plans.
"Everybody is gloom and doom now, but things could turn around quickly," Orr says. "Everybody is now waiting for confirmation we're at the bottom and if you can get a week or two of really strong markets, there will be a piling on phenomenon and people won't be able to wait to get back in."
But as he hurries to add, it might not be wise to bank on it happening in 2009.
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I applaud the budget, even though Health Care and education may stay unscathed. Sadly this cannot last and I worry to later this year where cuts will become enviable. If anything, this provides the Wildrose Alliance plenty of ammo when an election is called.


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Al
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Lee in Ontario
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Wonderful!
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Isn't there any good and exciting news out there! It sure is depressing - being poor in a cold country!
Well, since we will be suffering, why can't be all be poor in a warm environment - like being a "LOSER" in Hawaii rather in Canada!
What do you say?
Roger T
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Sometime TRYING TO SAVE FACE IN TROUBLE TIMES IS ONLY MAKING A FOOL OF ONESELF WHEN THE TRUTH IS UNVEILED!
BUT THAN AGAIN, EVEN A LEADER NEEDS TO STUMBLE AND PUTS HIM/HERSELF IN A GRADE 3 CLASS TO LEARN AGAIN CAUSE THE BAD LESSONS LEARNED IN UNIVERSITY IS NOT ENOUGH TO HELP DRAFT THE RIGHT SPEECH OR NAKE THE DECISIONS FOR THE MASSES!
lowell
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James
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Ontarian Lookin' West
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Chat
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Positive not negative!
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Try to focus on solutions and not to see everything in a nagative way, it could help a bit!
Chuck
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Mark M
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Melissa
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A couple of ppl lost their jobs at my workplace. I've been keeping my fingers crossed that I can maintain my employment.
However, in the past few months I've noticed so many other important things in life, like family, friends and health.
Things could always be a lot worse, and there are countries out there that have it worse.
KJ in Kingston Ontario
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David in Ottawa
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Thats at least positive.
Dennis
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Are skiing and hot-tubbing necessities?
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Is the recession only going to affect half of the people? Will Canadians who enjoy all kinds of luxuries throw a $20.00 onto the pile for the people that have lost their jobs?
André in St Catharines, Ont.
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Half Full
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I think we all should look at the glass a shalf full for a bit and come up with solutions...You know my grandmother grew up on the depression, and I didnt hear anything from her about EVERYONE crying the sky is falling.
Instead them and their neighbors got together and really formed a community, HELPING one another out when they could. They got through it...sure it was tough, but they did it, and so can we....c'mon, try to be a bit more positive..
Dean
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Earthling
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Roger T
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When all is said and done NOBODY HAS A FREAKING CLUE what is coming over the hill in 2009... but I am guessing it's not going to be good news for Canada. We have been blind-sided by EVERYTHING for the last 6 months......
Not everyone was blind-sided, it was our Gov't who refused to face the reality cause Canada needs to show the world that we have everything but really nothing to show in the end. Our Gov't's lack of responsibility only shows the world that we really have nothing to offer the world except raw materials, what good is it when no one needs it!
Only when our Gov't reconizes Canada's internal problems and keeps a distant from other nations internal affairs will our politcial leaders see clearly.
Sometimes trying to save face is only showing the losing side.
Cambob
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1. The economic value of war is not the making of bullets, but the rebuilding of cities. America has not gotten "value" for it's war in Iraq. 5 Trillion dollar debt.
2. The economic power of China is 74% outward. Thier own people are slowly gaining wealth, but thier buying power is still controlled by a corrupt and secretive government.
3. Oil spike. Fuel increased 55% within a 6 month period. The global market could not find a balance within the spike and began sharp cutbacks in thier spending. Since fuel touches every aspect of modern society, 'every aspect' was cut back.
4. A 15 year orgy of Western societies credit spending without reasonable safeguards. Enhanced after 9/11 with the 0% interest factor. (0% interest = no growth)
How do we fix it?
1. Pay debt.
2. Spend within our means.
3. Stop blaming others for our cummlative greed.
Brent
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Ray Jacques, Glen Robertson, ON
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When the Liberals came into power from Kim Campbell's lost election, the defecit was $ 44 billion / year.
Something had to be done about that defecit, With good planning and time, the Liberals got rid of it and brought us into surplusses. This liberated more dollars for programms instead of paying interest.
Everybody took a hit. it was necessary. it was good government in action.
Mr. Harper has virtually copied the Liberal plan to rebuild the military; same for the tax cuts which were identical to Paul Martin's, but was defeated prior to bing able to inpliment them.
Why would't you or anyone vote for a sound Liberal government ? Look at what little the Conservatives offerwed ?
In the last campaign, Mr, Harper wanted to unwisely cut social programs (cost him a majority in Quebec); offered to cut diesel tax
$ 0.02/liter (WOW); Qanted to jail 14 year-0lds as adults (add your own expletive(s) here !)
Otherwise, Mr. Harper had no policies or vision to offer Canadians
Mr. Harper is not competent nor is he a good leader (as he claims to be).
I remember in the Campaign where Mr. Harper defeated Paul Martin:- One of Mr. Harper's complaints about Paul Matrin was that he was jggling 50 or 60 poliies all at the same time (like that was a bad thing). Mr Harper went on to promoise 5 things, amongst them the 1% then 2# cut in the GST (not recommended by any economist as being a good thing to do !), and then, according to the Canadian Press, only delivered 50% of those promises (WOW !!)
Voting Liberal this time would be a good choice for having sound centrists policies that resonant with a majority Canadians - some 62% + pervent in the last election did not vote for the Right-Wing Conservatives.
Reece
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When your credit card is maxed out, do you go shopping with it? Apparently your logic is that you do and that kind of thinking is in fact shared by the conservatives. Billions was collected to pay down the debt so that we don't have to blow our budget on servicing the debt through billions in interest. But don't you worry your head over it, because the conservatives are blowing our money to new highs...however deep we cut into that debt is all lost in mere minutes of conservative rule.
BTW, lack of debt = soverignty & self-determination; the Americans owe foreign gov'ts $1 TRILLION - which explains why those gov'ts are buying American ports, banks & infastrature. The Americans are becoming tenants in their own homes.
Maybe in the next election the conservatives could cut the GST even deeper and maybe we'll reach 3rd world status even faster? No, I don't understand you guys at all and hope I never do.
2009 the market will pick up then then economy
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The stock markets are beginning to show some signs of life which suggest the end is in 2009 and we can count ourselves lucky because it could have been much worse. Fortunately our economy is strong and is diversifying which will bode well for future recessions as they come.