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Date: Thu. Dec. 4 2008 9:41 AM ET
Prime Minister Stephen Harper has arrived at Rideau Hall and is meeting with Gen. Michaelle Jean to ask to have Parliament suspended in order to keep his government alive.
Harper wasted no time, arriving at the residence in a motorcade and quickly entering the building through the side door.
He is expected to address reporters after the meeting.
"It's going to be fascinating to see how long this meeting goes," CTV's Rosemary Thompson told CTV Newsnet.
"He's going to have to make his case to the Governor General. I don't think he's going to just say 'I want to prorogue.' He's going to have to make a case for why he wants to do it."
Jean returned home early from a central European tour on Wednesday to deal with the political crisis that has gripped the nation.
The Liberals and New Democrats have formed a coalition agreement, with the support of the Bloc Quebecois, and have petitioned Jean to give them a chance to win the confidence of the House of Commons if the government falls.
On Wednesday night Harper made a rare nationally televised address.
In the five-minute pre-taped broadcast Harper said the opposition plans to oust his government and seize power would cripple the country's economy.
"The opposition is attempting to impose this deal without your say, without your consent and without your vote," he said.
Harper also signaled he would be willing to work with the opposition parties in order to deliver an economic plan that will help Canada navigate perilous economic times.
"Canada's government is acting to deal with the crisis right now," he said, adding that the opposition parties should "bring forward specific proposals.
"In fact, we have already changed some of our own proposals to meet their concerns."
Later on Wednesday, Liberal Leader Stephane Dion took to the airwaves after a major delay that saw national networks filling time as they waited for the tape to arrive.
He said the Conservatives have done little to help Canadians cope with the global economic crisis.
"Stephen Harper still refuses to propose measures to stimulate the Canadian economy," said Dion. "His mini-budget last week demonstrated that his priority is partisanship and settling ideological scores.
Dion also worked to reassure Canadians that a coalition government could efficiently work for the best interests of the country.
"Coalitions are normal and current practice in many parts of the world and are able to work very successfully," he said.
"They work with simple ingredients: consensus, goodwill and cooperation. Consensus is a great Canadian value."
NDP and Bloc respond
The NDP's Jack Layton said Wednesday that while other countries have been working to stimulate their economies, the Conservatives have been wasting time with partisan politics.
"Stephen Harper simply refused to act," he said, adding the Conservatives also attacked the rights of workers and women.
The opposition began to cobble together their coalition after the Tories proposed last week to cut public funding for political parties as a part of their fall economic update.
The update also lacked a sufficient stimulus package, the opposition has said.
If Jean refuses to grant prorogation and the scheduled Monday vote on the government's fiscal update does go forward, it is widely expected the opposition parties will vote down the confidence motion and topple the government.
If that happens, Jean would have to decide whether to send Canadians to the polls for another election, or grant the coalition the opportunity to govern.
Under the terms of the deal, Liberal Leader Stephane Dion would lead the coalition, and therefore serve as interim prime minister, until a leadership convention in May.
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I applaud the budget, even though Health Care and education may stay unscathed. Sadly this cannot last and I worry to later this year where cuts will become enviable. If anything, this provides the Wildrose Alliance plenty of ammo when an election is called.





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Blake
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Nathan
said
After Dion resigns in a few months, we're going to have to find a way to entice Dion to stay on in a cabinet role - under the new leader - to battle the Alberta separatists.
During a global economic crisis, Harper has attacked women, labor, & democracy; engineered a political crisis; and triggered a unity crisis. Clearly this man has unrestrained, destructive priorities. What deception & devious antics might we expect in March if the GG caves under the pressure and blocks Monday's confidence vote?
I AGAIN predict Premier Stephen Harper of Alberta, making problems bigger than Danny Williams ever has, in the not-so-distant future. We need to see a few moves ahead to make sense of the current shenanigans. These are cold & calculated moves; Canada is Harper's victim.
Jon London
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Come on......You really going to buy into this coalition?
Harper, looked smooth and relaxed. He did. Looked like a leader anyway.
Dion, what was that, a YouTube quality date tape? If you want to lead, stop begging.
Layton, Jack, dude, people went to bed last night worried about you causing their country to fall apart. The election campaign is over. Time for a new speech.
If Canadians are so outraged, let's go to the polls, vote for the party you feel best demonstrates the ability to lead through this recession, but don't re-elect any of the party leaders.
Stay tuned kiddies!
Greg - Oshawa
said
Canadians are becoming more out-spoken about their views.
There is no question that Canadians rejected Dion as PM. I don't see anything has changed on this.
Joe C
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Bonnie
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No one helps the little people
James
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Martin
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As far as the media playing up that Harper's speech is damaging relations with Quebec, I would just like to say to all Quebecers that Harper is not against Quebec. He, like the rest of us, is against the Bloc--which is a "seperatist" group. By definition, they are trying to break apart Canada, not help it. Looking out for Quebec's interests should not include isolating it from the rest of Canada.
Dave W
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I personally don't care if the "rest of the world" has coalitions or not. Our tradition is the party with the most seats forms the government. I can only see varying this in emergency situations.
This is not an emergency. This is simply a political ideological difference on how to deal with an economic crisis.
Also, the thought of the Liberal leadership convention on May 6th effectively being an election of my Prime Minister is objectionable to me.
Sharon Jolicoeur/Abbotsford, B.C.
said
As far as who has the majority in the house?
The coalition doesn't! They continue to say that the Bloc has vowed not to vote against them on Confidence motions.
So, if there's a confidence motion they don't agree with, will they stick to their word or will they vote? If they honor their word (a rare entity these days for parties), then the "majority" is only 114 seats! That's worse than where the Conservatives are now in the number of seats.
Also, people we know well, that have been long-time liberals, are disgusted with the Coalition.
I think the NDP and Liberals are doing long-time damage to their idealogies for short-term gain.
-S. Jolicoeur
Larry NL
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Impressive--- 3656 27%
Did the Job-- 4148 30%
Disappointing-5820 43%
If I take did the job because it came in second at 30% and add it to Impressive with 27% of the vote and form a coalition of the two, then the Prime Minister
"Did The Job" .
these two losers got more votes combined than the Disappointing category did at 43%.
This is how Jack Layton and Stephane Dion and a bunch off stupid liberal backers interpret how an election is run. If that is democracy, then give me something else, because the majority of Canadians don't like it.
Mark - Vegreville, AB
said
The only party that is carrying out the task as intended is the Bloc. They are being truly successful in tearing this country apart. The separatists must be so proud.
Cory - Toronto
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To te GG...I, along with the majority of the country (Conservatives, Liberals, and NDP alike), do not want this coalition to proceed. I ask that you allow this to simmer over the holidays and let Canadians have time to reflect on what this means for Canada. Thank you.
ScottS
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Blair J
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Albertan
said
At a time when the economy is in crisis, and people are losing their jobs daily, Mr. Harper wants to take a nice 2 month holiday.
Let's get this coalition WORKING!
Debbie Paiement
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Paul - Orillia
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TO prorogue parliament for his purpose is deceiving parliament.
The voters did NOT vote for a Prime Minister like a President... they voted under the constitution for a Parliament, the House of Commons.
The Coalition represents the majority of the house. Time for a change from this greedy control freak Harper. At least the Coalition has a common front for 1.5 years and that's the economy.
jim at ktchener
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Quebec 8 billion equalization. while Ontario get 250 million
Now thats Liberal eh!
Doug
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The problem with the "Quebec" in your analogy isn't the "Players"...it is the person that is representing Quebec who want to break-up this "team"
Dr J in SK
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Glen
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Bruce from Calgary
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AnnaW
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Brett in Montréal
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PhilipHauser
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Davide Peterson, former Ontario premier in today's London Free Press
Tim in Halifax
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Dave in Ontario
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Abby U
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PrairieDog - Dean R.
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Allow me to respond, thank you. Dion is going to go to Alberta and fight the separatists there?? That is one of the biggest dreams I have ever read.
Point number 2: Alberta doesn't stand alone any longer. There are three other western provinces that are about to boil over, as well. The west IS NOT Quebec. Once the train starts up here in the west, it won't be easy to stop. Unlike Quebec, the people of the west will actually do it. Not just stamp our feet until a government caves in.
Be careful what you wish for.
PM
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Gail
said
Please fellow Canadians, regardless of the party you support, choose DEMOCRACY over a particular party & stand up for our Constitutional rights of freedom, & our vote.
GOD BLESS CANADA!!!!!
Jason D
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Treason
Kris
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Colin in Bedford
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Regrettably, the crisis that we are experiencing is a crisis in leadership. The leaders of all the parties (Conservative, Liberal, NDP) are either individually or collectively not "up to the job". Harper is a self-centred, rather mean- spirited bully who puts his own aspirations well above the well being of the country. Dion is a somewhat pathetic and unfortunate man, who is desperate to avoid being the only Liberal leader who did not become PM. Layton is a shameless opportunist who sees this as the only chance that an NDP leader will ever have to sit on the governing side of the House of Commons.
Harper did an oustanding job in building the Conservative party to where it is today. However, the characteristics of a "builder" are clearly different from the characteristics necessary to be a leader once the building is done. If he were a true leader, this mess never would have happened in the first place. His obvious and glaring inadequacies as a leader have permitted this crisis to occur. Regrettably, the equal ineptness of Dion and Layton have augmented and worsened the crisis.
It is sad to see how hard and passionate these so-called leaders are when it is their own self-interest on the line. If only they worked this hard to address the other issues of concern affecting our country.
The Conservatives are the single party with the most seats; they deserve to be in power. However, they deserve a better leader, and so does Canada.
Dan Livingstone
said
dwight ottawa
said
It is time to do a confidence
vote and move on. If we end up with a coalition government so be it. the
government business has to be done at any cost.
Sherry Katrinia in Ottawa
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Jeff from the Stock
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Way to Go Harper.keep doing what you're doing and things will work out fine.
I might have had some worry about this coalition if not lead by a complete fool.
for anyone still thinking Dion should lead...Give me a break..
HS
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Moi
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Brian
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T Sanders
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Tammy, Stoney Creek
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Paul
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Joan Sonnenburg Perth
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Nick in Gatineau
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When an MP starts quoting laws that do not exist as the basis of an argument, one has to wonder what they are doing in politics ?
International Law, and the very basis of democratic principles state that a coalition can form when there is understanding between the parties involved. In this situation there is.
There can even be a coalition between an opposition party and the minority party in power if they feel it to be the right thing to do. The conservatives never thought of doing this while in power but when in opposition they did - when they saw it would not work, they dropped the idea.
Harper stated that people voted for their PM - we did not. The name of the PM only appeared in 1 ridding - his own. Nowhere did it appear in the 300 + riddings.
So far Harper to make the claim is a fictional law that we Canadians, and indeed International law sees as an understanding.
The same kind of understanding that applies to coalitions.
If the Conservatives want to see a box for 'accept a coalition' and 'vote for your PM' on your ballot, then they should have written a law for Elections Canada. They did not.
So if they are quoting something that does not exist, once in a majority, change the law.
That's how things get done.
The Coalition should be recognized immediately by the GG.
bob
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This is what i answer to these comments
Tradition: lets do like we did in the past, moving forward is bad. Thats about what resumes the tradition argument. Is that the way we want canada to be ruled ?
Unfair: learn how politics works. we elect representants, 1 representant = 1 vote, 308 representants in the chamber. if 160 representants see fit to replace Harper sa PM, they have every rights, and even they HAVE to do it if they think Harper can not lead the country anymore.
Separatist vs separatists: well i dont know why the west is complaining that Quebec is evil and they are good when all they do is copy the Quebec of the PAST. Is that what the west sees as tradition? (refer to the first comment i told)
jeff huntsville
said
Its like living in OZ with the wicked "witch of the west" versus the "wicked witch of the east" and hopefully a "wizard somewhere in between". Let us not forget where Steven Harper was created, he was created from a fiasco of right wing politicos wanting more autonomy for the west reform/alliance/consertative with Preston Manning leading the rally The Bloc is not so much a separtist party now but more for a better deal and autonomy for quebecers from the federal govt.Steven Harpers agenda for years was the same for western canada. It is almost laughable the hipocrisy of the man. I think his dream is for the west to join the U.S or even better that he might be President of the United Western Alliance with Calgary as its capital. Dion and Layton or the only "true" federalists in the house.Hopefully the coalition can bring some calm and sanity to situation.
JB
said
Lets have another election... maybe we'll have a better turnout this time.
Mo from NL
said
If you voted during the last election then you did vote for the PM or the coalition who ever they are. Unfortunately for us now that is how it is, like it or not. Let the constitution work like it is supposed to. Maybe if more of the registered voters turned out during the last election our great country would not be in the turmoil it is today.Finally the "People" did not vote for Harper, Dion, or Layton for PM, their party members voted them as leader of their parties. Therefore by winning the election the leader got to be the PM.
For all those people out there who need more information about how our goverment works or is supposed to work please read this.
http://www.mapleleafweb.com/features/coalition-governments-canada
A.F. Butters
said
It galls me that you folks have the temerity to encourage us to vote strategically for you and your parties and when we do that, you flip us the bird.. It is the height of arrogance and disrespect.
We didn't vote for you folks to create a big constitutional crisis. We voted for you to govern effectively. You haven't done that and you don't ever seem capable of doing so. None of you have any credibility anymore. Sorcerer's Apprentices each and everyone of you.
Resign, Resign, Resign. All of you. Now.
A.F. Butters
London, Ontario
John Fraser
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Mark from Edmonton
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Doug Abernethy
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Let’s forget about whether or not Mr. Harper has done sufficient planning for the financial crisis. Since Confederation, our country has stood for democracy. If the Governor General accepts this proposal, which is nothing less than a bloodless coup, our values and everything our country stands for will go down the drain. If this proposition passes, it will be the first time ever that a Canadian government has been toppled by a confidence vote and replaced by an opposition coalition without an election. Canadians must understand that this is more than just gaining an opposition coalition with no election. If this is allowed to happen, it will set a precedent for years to come. If this coalition takes power now, the idea of electing representatives (an idea which we are pushing in Afghanistan at this second) becomes optional. And that’s the most dangerous thing about what’s happening.
With all that being said, I am not a Stephen Harper fan. I prefer the current minority government. The Conservatives still rely on the Opposition to pass legislature, which keeps them honest. In a majority government, which is what the proposed Opposition Coalition would be, it is too easy for the party in power to dominate the House. We need to stop this now, before we go down a very slipppery bad road.
Krys ross
said
TVic
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Beth Fitzpatrick
said
Harper has already proven he has no desire to work with the other parties, that's why we are in this position now.
His speech did nothing to bring the parties nor the country together, instead he continues to blame others for his on shortcomings, admitting he was wrong is not in his vocabulary, to bad.
proud conservative
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Andy in Cambridge
said
The majority of MP's plus the majority of Canadians that voted for them do not want Harper as our Prime Minister."
one thing you're leaving out, is that the majority of Canadians are against this coalition
Geoff
said
Harper arrogance is too much. Dion and Leyton are both motivated by power. The coalition was going to give a 30 billion boost, now they are not sure, they we going to have a financial advisor board, now that has fallen apart, The Liverals can't even make a decent video tape and deiver it on time, yet they think the man they said a few weeks ago wasn't fit to run the party should now run the country. Then they call Harper a hypocrit. Disgusting!!!
Maritimer living in Ontario
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Warren
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Jay, Ottawa
said
If there are enough MPs to form a functioning coalition and they feel they can offer a better alternative then go for it. That's how the British Parliamentary system was designed.
Let's stop arguing about opinions and accept the facts. This is democratic because everyone involved was just elected to the House by citizens of Canada.
Doug
said
Jamie Lee, Port Colborne, ON
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Adam
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James
said
In 1926, when Canadian Governor General Lord Byng refused Prime Minister Mackenzie King's request for a dissolution of parliament.
In principle, the Crown could overrule a Governor-General.
Paul from Ontario
said
Come on folks, we do need a change and a coalition would do that. Many say this will break up the country, well look at it a past member of the Reform party now prime minister.
Don't forget Reform was a regional party that wants everything for the west and out of Canada if it did not get its way. Now they have their way. Only as the PCs.
As Nathan said, Harper is the trigger and Canada the victim. He gets his way. Long live Governer Harper of the 51st state
Connie
said
Keep the 3 stooges away from trying to take control.
Absolutely, Not one of them is qualified to bring Canada throught these unprecedented times. What a farse!
Let's not forget how Dion and the Liberals lost so many seats and so did the Bloc in the last election.
Make them work with Harper - collective efforts to help the economy. Not just their powerplay chance to take control!
Gary, NL
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Gilles
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kara fr. the west
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I also think that a lot of people's perspectives would be completely different if the bloc wasn't part of this. having a separatist party in power is scary; it really is.
i am at the point where i think quebec should just go. never, have i thought that, but this is getting ridiculous. canada continually gives to that province and all they want is more and more. it's pathetic.
and if that doesn't work - maybe the west needs to cut off all ties from the east and see how that works.
Tracy, Ottawa
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Jacob from edmonton
said
The only fair thing to do is for the gg to take a poll to see who Canadians think should run the country. It should be a poll with zero margin of error that is accurate 20 times out of 20 - an election!
John from HRM, Nova Scotia
said
Dr. J.D.Bradford
said
Anyone who thinks this guy would make a good PM is deluded. First of all he doesn't have any principle when he sells us out... what else will he do for his big ego?
We did not vote for this wicked sell out coalition who are willing to give Canada to the separatists so they can snatch power on a technicality.
Shame on Liberal back benchers who sit silently by and allow this sell out.
Jan
said
Jacob from edmonton
said
The only fair thing to do is for the gg to take a poll to see who Canadians think should run the country. It should be a poll with zero margin of error that is accurate 20 times out of 20 - an election!
Marty in Winnipeg
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Ray Jacques, Glen Robertson, ON
said
When I read theses postings, there seems to be a blind approval of whatever Mr. Harper does. This disturbs me more than any individual posting.
Postings that deny the right of other elected memebrs of Parliament are 100% incorrect. Do you not understand our Brithish PArliamnetary system. Paoting invorrect facts is not very impressive.
Continuing a follow an ideolog who has proved that he cannot lead is also not very impressive or Canadian.
Mr. Haroer is not the leadser that he claims to be. He tired to do exactly the same thing when he was in Opposition. Stop blinding approving Mr, Harper's every move, especially since it is now known that he is not being honest and has in fact lost the vconfidence of the House. He should be replaced by the Coalition who have knowingly and willingly put aside their incomopatible platforms in favour of serving Canadai in these difficult financial times.
It is the legal and correct next step for our Parliament
and Counrty
Doug
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Jeff Smith
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Ray Bradette
said
Look at the mess we are in.
Party politics is not democracy.
We need more INDEPENDENTS on the ballots.
Members (your representatives) are told how to vote by the party leaders.
N.W.T. and Nunavut have it right.
All members are independents and after the election they vote for the Premier(Prime Minister) much the same way as the Speaker is elected in the house of commons.
We need a government
For the People - By the People.
"True Representation"
no more money-stuffed envelopes.
no more lobbyists.
No more favours to be repaid.
Vote for the Independent on the ballot.
Dave
said
farmer fred
said
If media reports are correct, today the Prime Minister will be requesting that you assent to poroguing Parliament. I respectfully request you deny this request.
Since the acceptance of Lord Durham’s report Canada has enjoyed responsible government. Central to that responsible government has been the promise by our Sovereign that Her Ministers will demonstrate that they have the confidence of the people. Our current Prime Minister is clearly attempting to avoid a test of that confidence and will be asking you to assist him in that avoidance.
Canadians recently chose a Parliament. A majority of our Members of that Parliament have indicated that the Prime Minister does not have their confidence. Attempting to avoid a test of that confidence, for no other conceivable reason than to avoid a defeat of the current government, would deny my right, and the right of all Canadians to responsible government. Accepting a request to porogue Parliament would set a dangerous precedent and deny the subjects of Her Majesty our recognized right of a government that is responsible to our elected representatives in the House of Commons. I respectfully submit that you have a duty to ensure that current and more importantly future Canadians subjects of Her Majesty continue to enjoy a government that is responsible to the will of our elected representative in Parliament. As such, I humbly suggest you have a duty to deny any request to porogue and to ensure that the Prime Minister meet a test of confidence at the earliest convenience of Parliament.
John Smith
said
I won't hold my breath on the former...
Darren Sandison
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James from Calgary
said
MP
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Bernice Young
said
I felt that Harper's speech was very good; calm cool and stately.
Please, Governor General Jean, veto the coalition! Make them try and work it out or at least give the MP's time to acually listen to ALL their constituants and get a true picture of what the majority of people really want so that those that must can TRUELY speak for Canadians!!
Paul Murphy
said
I can see a pattern from the western Premiers ,and this includes Harper.
Elected members of the house are prepared to govern. They do represent the majority of Canadians that did not elect the PC party. Mr Harper needs to face what he,himself inspired.
Can you explain why the obesity crisis ,that many are dieing from does not get this level of media interest???????
Personal responsibility Mr Harper .You need to face your own handy work,and yes I am in full support of the Coalition.
Dear Quebecers,
You are seeing the actions of a desparate leader.He does not speak for me ,and I am prepared to support this Coalition.
My challenge is to you,the media . When will you point the camera lens at the factors surrounding obesity???????
Phil
said
(1) Canada's is an adversarial system of government - these types of conflicts are the heart and soul of our democracy (although the acrimony need not be). Let's not condemn our politicians for being adversarial in an adversarial system.
(2) Harper told the nation last night that the coalition wanted to "overturn the results of the election." My question to him is this:
Which of your elected MP's are losing their seats?
My perception is that Harper is both highly educated and intelligent. I am consequently disheartened that he would choose to use this type of deliberate rhetorical misinterpretation of facts in a carefully worded address to the nation.
If it's me whose understanding is distorted, somebody please set me straight...
Frunk
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Nick in Gatineau
said
Don't be surprised if Harper calls an election because he knows the Liberals are heading to a Leadership race. An election now would decimate the Liberals and he knows it.
Now is his chance for his majority government. Third time's the charm.
Bob Jones
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Allyson
said
What a bunch of junior high school juveniles we elected.
I would NOT have noted if I knew this situation was on the horizon.
Matthew
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Ranee
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Connie
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Peter from Hamilton
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The more Harper talks, the more he proves to Canadians how unfit he is to lead this nation. A coalition is perfectly legal in a minority government. To those who think that a coalition government is not "Canadian" or "undemocratic", I wish you all the best of luck in finishing your education.
Dayton
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Mark in Waterloo
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The role of the GG is to protect the house from rampaging leaders who abuse their power and extend their mandate beyond what the people have given them. To allow prorogue strictly to avoid a confidence vote is fundamentally undemocratic.
6 weeks should have been ample time to at least pre-view a budget. This government has had the full economical numbers at their behest for months and have simply chosen not to act. Delaying the inevitable and stifling the decision making process until Jan seems highly questionable.
Roger T
said
While Harper is desparately trying to save his party members jobs during this uncertain economic times, really he's trying to save (HIS OWN) face first and his job.
We Canadians need a strong leadership that can turn the economy around while investors are fleeing like wild bulls are running from the bears!
Uncertain economic times calls for CHANGE NOW, if things don't happen soon the situation might be "SHOP NOW, CRY LATER" for ALL OF US.
Dan
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Phil (Halifax)
said
Are you Canada going to trust Larry, Moe, and Curly to lead us now?
Remember, we have troops that are in harms way. If you can't coordinate a response to the nation when you have ample time to prepare, what are you going to do when the 3am call comes that requires decisive action to protect our troops and citizens?
Leadership is what it is all about!
Dion you are hapless. Layton you’re a joke, and Duceppe you are a traitor!
Stability, focus, and leadership, that is what Canada needs and voted for.
That is what Canada has in Harper.
Dennis Hughey
said
Liberals are all three,"traitors"! The law of Canada is & has been broken!
The act of treason should be treated as such. It is as simple as enforcing the law of Canada!
Rob Z
said
As for the proposed Liberal-NDP coalition, it should be allowed to proceed. Unlike what so many have indicated, a coalition would not overturn the results of the election, as we elect MP's instead of the Prime Minister. It's simply an act of demonstrating to the Conservatives that they do not have the mandate to govern this country as if they have a majority, and in a minority government, the government MUST co-operate with one or more opposition parties in order to make government work. If Harper doesn't want to do that, he should be booted and the coalition should be allowed to govern, as wasting another $300 million of taxpayers money in the second election in two months is just plain stupid!
Tommies
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KJ in Kingston Ontario
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Tim In Airdrie
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He does not have the confidence of the House & will not get it - he must go & let the coalition run the Country until another election in a year or so.
We have Quebec Separatists & Western Separatists - both are allowed to vote as they see fit.
Rozanne
said
Erika Saunders Ottawa
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Acton Ontario
said
Harper missed the opportunity to reach out to dissenting Liberals. He was too harsh on Quebec and may have re-opened Pandora's separatist box. And, he did not apologize to Canadians for sparking this unnecessary crisis. I thought his depth was shallow and unconvincing. He needed to show more passion like PET.
Although he's politically finished, his business is not. He how needs to bring the country back together.
Dion's showing last night was disgraceful, and may have been a blessing in disguise for Canada. I have nothing good to say about their political intensions to take what isn't theirs. Looks good on them!
Judy
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Diane
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Tim in Ottawa
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I didn't vote conservative and never would, but they did win the election and should be given a chance to govern. Harper chose not to work with the opposition and tried his same old bully tactics which blew up in his face. Time for him to resign and for the Conservatives to pick a leader who can work with others.
A new election won't solve anything and just leave us 300 million more in debt.
A coalition would alienate the West.
Only choice is a Conservative Government without Harper and Flaherty.
SophieAnna
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Cody
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Greg M Montreal now Ottawa
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How can people blame Harper for the economy? Does Harper control the economy in the USA or Europe or Asia? Didnt think so! Let Harper run this country, which he has done so well since he has been elected.
Oh how the sheep are forgetful of when Jean C and Paully Martin were in power and our dollar was a a whopping 60 cents!
Harper has not only lowered our taxes, and made our dollar stronger, he also made Canada a proud place to live again.
As an english Quebecer (Yes we do actually exist) i find it laughable that french is called a race. Last time i checked there are, blacks, whites, asians, indians etc... that all speak french...
Harper gave Quebec the best deal ever, he let them call themselves a nation, so they can be cooler than the other provinces. Whoopie!
I stand by my Prime Minister and know that Mr. Harper will prevail over those pathetic individuals and lead us back to happier times, and restore Canadian pride!
Ethan in Calgary
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Mathieu
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Ray in teh East
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Lane
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Andrew
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Brian from the GTA
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Gary
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After the election everyone 'talked' about working together yet Harper's first move is to hurt the other parties financially, this does not help the country in anyway. He does not address the current financial situation, the one the rest of the civilized world is dealing with, the one that he did not even recognize during the election.
I don't like the idea of a coalition government with a party who's primary objective is separation but the Tories have to start managing the economic problem. They have to start working with the other elected members of parliament and since they do not have a majority this includes 'working with' the other political parties. Stop wasting time.
Dave
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Mike in Mississauga
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If this was the case we would not be in this situation. The rules should be changed!!
Julie - Saskatoon
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Further, a coalition between parties who plan to ultimately become one party forever (ie. PC's and Reform) is true to the word of a coalition. They had the same ideology and split the vote. The NDP and Liberal Party of Canada DO NOT see eye to eye, and thus how do they plan on making a "working coalition"? Throw the BQ in there as the balance of power, and I think Canada has a far more unstable government than we have right now. Dion and Layton have mucked this up too much, we have to go to the polls again and Canada has to elect some sort of a majority.
Andy Bryski Aylesford Nova Scotia
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I am very satisfied in the way that my Prime Minister is leading Canada through this economic crisis. A true leader must display confidence and not panic during trying times. He must not run around like chicken little, crying that the sky is falling. Our economy is doing very well in comparison with other world economies. This is a direct result of the initiatives and policies of the present Government.
The Party who is in the best position to govern, is the Party that the people of Canada elected in the last election.
Unfortunatly, I believe our economy could be doing much better if it weren't for the " sky is falling" alarmists in the opposition who are playing politics rather than offering credible,and I stress credible solutions. Their continious alarmist attitude could very well result in a self fulfilling prophesy if Canadian's accept their doomsday rhetoric and change their consumer habits. Witness the fall of the TSX since the opposition announced their coalition agenda.
If this Government is brought down, I want to participate in another election and the Liberals and the NDP must run as a Coalition Party. Only then, will I feel that the best interests of the Canadian people are truly served.
JR from Pointe Claire
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Cal from Ontario
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Ron in Moncton
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Think of your own situation. If you have less money coming into your house for the next 6 months will you go out and buy a new car? Will you go to the restaurant the same twice a wk or cut back to once a week.
Stephen Harper has shown leadership in that he has remained calm, kept the fiscal house in order and during his leadership has modified banking laws to avoid what happened in the usa.
For seniors in this country, he has modified income tax so that retirees will not be hurt by the economic pressure and he has allowed everyone to save without paying income tax.
This same coallition has continually stopped any crime reduction measures, and more tax incentives to keep companies/employers in a postion to hire more.
Give your head a shake and stop being so greedy. 30B dollars to the auto sector will do nothing but line more politicians pockets.
Don Kabel
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Layton & Dion wouldn't hold up in a banana republic, they are just lackluster lifer politicians living off the system & contributing bugger all. Mouthing off to the latest economic disaster, people losing jobs. Hey, it happens. Try the Alberta oilfields sometime. These 'honourable' gentlemen have no policy other than to feed the crows when they squawk.
At least Harper is having a shot at financial responsibility - and has had a good number of people vote in his party's favour.
Coalition? You mean like Zimbabwe?? There can't be that many stupid Canadians......
Cory
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Murray from West Nipissing
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Chris
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It is not Harper it is their representation Duceppe of the Separatist Bloc , He has said time and time again on the news and in Parliment that he is only interested in what is in it for Quebec not National Unity. If Quebecer want the rest of Canada to know that they are for National unity they need to send representation to Ottawa with that message and maybe change the name of their party.
Stephan
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Here in Canada we don't elect a Prime Minister, we elect MPs. The MP that can gain the suppport of the majority of the House becomes the Prime Minister, and right now it looks like Mr. Dion is that person. Why? Because, clearly he is the only leader that is willing to listen to everyone.
Our system is just fine. The only change I would like to see is to replace our Head of State (the Queen and Governor General) with a popularly elected President.
Bob B
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So an agreement with the Bloc is evil, Harper did it in the past when he wanted to oust the Liberals. OH I forgot, conservatives have short memories.
I hope the women in this country realize Mr. Harper was going to take away your RIGHT to LEGAL action on pay equity!! Is this what women fought for, for so many years? Is this what you want to represent you in Canada?
Perhaps what should happen is: ALL THE PARTY LEADERS QUIT, WE HAVE A VOTE WITH NO PARTY LEADERS, A NEW 'PM' IS APPOINTED FROM THE WINNING PARTY - CANNOT BE A PAST LEADER APPOINTED
Patti, Winnipeg
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Patrick Roach
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Cathy
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Diane from London
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Who is the Prime Minister of the Coalition Government? Stephan Dion was late delivering his very childlike taped speech. Then Moe and Larry (Jack Layton and Gilles Duceppe) had to present as well.
Does this mean that they are all doing everything together?
Secondly is the coalition going to give everybody who has lost their jobs a new job or money in lieu of? The way they are presenting themselves is that they will be the saviors of the economic turndown.
They have a tall order. Hope that they can do what they say they can or they may be promising way more than they can deliver.
Chris H.in Burnt River On.
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Andrea
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Already spent $300 million on last election, and chances are,if we go into another election, would come out with the same result. Another minority.
Hopefully GG, will do another option and not throw us back into another election. Then again, Harper is playing chicken by not doing the vote.
Alain, Montreal
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Also, and most important for the rest of Canada, what the Bloc defends and demands is for the better good of people of Québec, the interesting thing is that the need of Québec is the same for the people of rest of Canada.
The only thing the Bloc defends, the Québec separation, will not have any impact, the block does not have a majority within the coalition, and logically the coalition will only go forward with goal common to all part of the coalition.
Historically about 42% of the Canadian vote form a majority government, 48% or about create a very, very strong government with in the upper 80% of the deputy. In this case, the coalition with just under 65% of the Canadian vote will lead to a majority government with about 65% of the deputy, this is the first really representative government since World War 1.
Mark in Ottawa
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I hope she does the right thing and turn down Harper's request. How long can Canada remain stalemated?
Dave -- Montreal
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CAK
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Rob - the scared for his wallet guy
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So Harper brought this on himself, I guess well there is no argument to thatt, he counted on Dion as a lame duck leader already asked by his party to leave, would act as per his track record, to walk out of the house rather than show a spin. one would have to say small miscalculation there eh'.
so wrong one has clarity.
Wrong two is this coalition that is a direct contradiction to the lies told to us the voters during the election that the philosophical differences between the parties were great to have a coalition.
I guess we are the fools for not recognizing just how far to the left the liberals had slid under Dion. The same can be said for the Liberal party having brought this on themselves however our memories have be a bit longer. the arrogance displayed in the last years under Cretien and Martin and there massive departure from being a centerist party. with fiscal controls right or wrong to be debated in a seperate form.
bob in winnipeg
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OMG, people are getting deranged. What a load of crap. None of this is even remotely true. The folks with the destructive policies are the ones who are attempting to govern without a mandate.
To say that this is all Harpers fault boggles the mind. Although I agree that political parties should raise their own funds, and not be given taxpayer money, maybe he should have held off on that (he did withdraw it from the update). But to engage in all this backroom dealing and scheming over a fiscal update is to make a mountain out of a molehill. It simply does not rise to the threshold of changing the government. If the oppositons want to topple the government, at least wait until the budget.
Murray in Alberta
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AJ from Ottawa
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when Mr. Harper arrives to her home for her decision she looks him in the eyes and says "Mr. Harper a couple months ago, you called an election for the people of Canada to once again become PM and won the role, duties and job of Prime Minister,successfully. Why should I interfere now at this very time when you, now more than ever, have an important job to do. Go back to your House of Commons and embrace the role you so desired and deal with the ups and downs of your job, facing the people that oppose you and the Canadians you govern"
I feel PM Harper running to the GG for a postponement of parlement is nothing more than a waste of taxpayers time and money. Lets face it, its our money they are going to be spending on all the advertizing, press and print during this time. Its not like someone is going to come along and say to all the leaders "play fair and dont waste the money of taxpayers or supporters because it could go to the Canadians losing thier jobs, business and homes"
Why is this not general realization of Canadians, all of this will only cost us more. PM get back to work! and if you loose your job while doing it, so be it atleast no one can say you didnt work for day of work like the rest of us! Cause with all sincerity if you keep mismanaging our money, we will loose our jobs in the end!
James in New Brunswick
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If I recall correctly, the number of Governments that actually received a majority of votes cast, let alone the majority of the votes available, is quite small. Many strong majority Governments were formed with little more than 40% of the vote. Are we now saying that they lacked the legitimate right to govern?
Yes, there is scope for a Coalition government in Canada but a basic principle of democracy is that no government can make drastic changes to its stated policy without a mandate from the people in the form of an election. Perhaps in this case, a plebiscite or referendum regarding the idea of a Coalition and its mandate would be a quicker and more effective way of getting Canadian's input.
This economic crisis is unprecedented. Around the world governments are throwing money at the problems with little effect. I'd much rather see our Government, which has the strongest economic record in the G7, continue to consult with business, academia and the opposition parties and use the best information and ideas to develop the best solution for Canada. This needs to be outlined in a BUDGET which is not something anyone is prepared to deliver today.
There will be opportunities for the Federal Government to support industries in need of assistance but handing them a blank cheque is not the way to do it.
So, I hope the GG gives the Government the chance to prepare and table a BUDGET.
Jenn
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Canada chose Harper and the Conservatives, whether or not everyone in Canada agrees with him as Prime Minister or not. If we start this precedent with a coalition government,we can kiss our democracy goodbye. Anyone who's touchy they didn't win the election (DION)can just take the job? I think not.
Take us CANADIANS to the polls so we can MAKE UP OUR MIND, thank you very much.
Mel in BC
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Mark in Waterloo
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While she may be calm and bi-partisan, she is also more of a figure head these days. It is pretty clear that a parliamentary prorogue would have the sole purpose of avoiding a non-confidence motion, and therefore should not be allowed without the consent of the house. However, because the GG has no real authority these days, she may well be forced to grant prorogue.
I don't like the fact that loopholes like this exist in our parliamentary system and that we may have no recourse against a rampaging PM. I also don't like the fact that the meeting with the GG is not public and we must rely on Mr Harper to convey it's outcome. I would much rather matters like this be settled in front of the supreme court with a public audience.
It can't be addressed now but something we should be thinking about once we are in calmer times.
George in YYC
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Dave Sauter
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Canadians don't be fooled by the opposition parties retoric. This is all about the opposition parties losing their political, pork barreling, funding. All the rest is just a smoke screen created to fool Canadians into thinking the governmnet is doing a bad job.
Jim Boswell
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The GG should prorogue parliament to allow cooler heads to prevail and new interim leaders to be selected for all four parties and then come back and give your best shot at making this duly elected parliament work for the betterment of all Canadians.
If any of the leaders refused it would be a clear indication of what their true character is as opposed to what they may say when a microphone is perched in front of them.
It seems to me that personalities have overtaken policy in this case and that is shameful.
Kat
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Gail in NS
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And Jack and Gilles - where were you? Is this how your coalition works, that you let the idiot lead the play even though he has a history of fumbling the ball?
My God, can you just imagine this bumbling bunch of incompetents representing Canada on the world stage? I am cringing.
E.D.
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I just love how when Harper did the same thing a few years ago it was great. Now when someone else does it, it's a threat to the country. Suck it up! This is our system.
Fortunatly we get to see what the GG is useful for instead of costing us millions.
Thomas (Ottawa)
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Robert B in BC
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So an agreement with the Bloc is evil, Harper did it in the past when he wanted to oust the Liberals. OH I forgot, conservatives have short memories.
I hope the women in this country realize Mr. Harper was going to take away your RIGHT to LEGAL action on pay equity!! Is this what women fought for, for so many years? Is this what you want to represent you in Canada?
Paul
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DO you think the man wanted this right after an election.
NO matter what that man did or would have done , we all know now that the plans have been in place to bring down the goverment before the fiscal update was given.
Last night we all found out what the Bloc is getting to support the NDP and The liberals , All the promises given to the Bloc results in money going to Quebec, in our current economic criss where do you think that money is coming from ?????
Wakeup Canada
On the Bloc, if you ask anyone , well almost anyone in Canada they will tell you that we want Quebec in Canada , we just do not want the Bloc, we do not feel the Bloc is acting in the best interests of Quebec or Canada . Yes Quebec has a different culture, most regions in Canada have a unique culture. We all get allong in most cases ..... We just dont tell the rest of canada we are taking our toys and going home !
If the NDP and Libers have the seats to form a goverment that would be one thing , if the Bloc had seats in the rest of Canada that would be something else
But to bring down a goverment 7 weeks after an election where they are less than 20 seats from a Majority
What are you thinking ?
Daniel - Montreal
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Once the busiest spending season of the year has passed, we will see how bad things truely get and to suggest putting the gov't, the very and only organisation that could guide us through this, on hold, well you've got some serious issues.
Your Excellency, please take down Harper. He has proven time and time again that he has no regard for the majority of Canadian voices and is concerned only about his personal agenda while in office.
And, let's not forget, if the coalition doesn't work, it is well within Her Excellency's power to call for a general election. Doesn't anybody know our history and the Mckenzie-King story?
Wake-up people. Now's NOT the time to sit around and take group thearapy at the expense of the Canadian public.
Oh, and to say that everyone who voted for the Bloc is a separatist, is extremely ignorant. If you had a political party concerned pretty much only for your province, would you not vote for them? Would you call yourself a separatist? Grow up.
Aimée- Ottawa
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There is no difference between the western separatists and those in Québec because both want to tear the country apart.
As a franco-ontarian I believe in a United and Strong Canada!
Terence
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Mel from Calgary
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The governor generals response to his request to suspend parliament only to avoid a confidence vote would create a horrendous precedent.
Her response should be "I'll get back to you tuesday 9 Dec."
Pat
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What this country now needs to do is amend our constitution so that ultimately the people of Canada as a whole have the final decision on who we want running our country - whether good or bad it will be our decision.
Today - what will be, will be. I for one am prepared to vote on Christmas Eve if that's what it takes to put and end to the hijack and obstuction that we are witnessing now. This coalition is not even close to being prepared for the task at hand - I've tried to stay open. All I got from Dion was fluff and puff, no numbers, no plan just this very pretty picture of an imaginary utopic society - his speach was written well, for a novel!
Let us all go home and enjoy our families with peace of mind that the thieves with their keys to the money chest can do no more harm. The damage has already been done, we again will survive the further crash of our economy and our retirement savings and celebrate the season of peace and goodwill, warmth, kindness and generosity!
Mr. Harper you have my full permission to do whatever it takes to keep Canada strong & free!
Merry Christmas everyone.
Marg
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I'd like a prolonged paid holiday myself, wouldn't you... especially if you made such a blunder as Harper made. Yes let it all simmer down so it can be forgotten... hmmm we should all have such an easy way out of our problems... and be paid too!
As for the Coalition, why not give it a try... let them shoot themselves in the foot then we'll have an election and perhaps the buffoons will be replaced with real leaders.
It's the holidays... Merry Christmas and Bah HuMBuG from the politicians to Canadians!
Jeff H. from Lucan Ontario
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Realize there is more than just the government to blame for the current economic crisis. I'm thinking of Albert Einstein's definition of insanity: doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. We all (business organizations and people) need to start thinking about changing our ways. We can't always expect others to solve problems for us.
That's my 2 cents.
Jay
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Its time to stop thinking about politicla needs and look to see what the country needs as a whole east to west and not just Quebec and Ontario.
Mr. Albertan get your fact right
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You probably voted NDP not much better in my view!
Marty
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BlairJ
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Please put partisan politics aside and realize that this coalition is a power grab that is beholden to the separatists and only serves to strengthen their position and weaken Canada. The federalist parties should look beyond this bickering and work for Canada, not the separatist.
A Guenther - Burnaby
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We need action now. The governor general should pass power to the Coalition and make all the PC mps work in the file rooms or the photo copy rooms over the holidays. It might give them a sense of how the government is supposed to work and it's ground floor operations. This is coupled with being disciplined for wasting time having another election, the space of time till now without a reasonable budget, and this week where the non confidence vote was postponed.
To think they want to extend that time even more with further inaction is incomprehensible.
Nicole
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Dave from Cold Lake, AB
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Suzanne Jensen Victoria
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Kim in Calgary
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Morgan from Manitoba
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Catherine
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If we had second turn elections in Canada, Dion would have been elected, as anti-charismatic as he may be.
So please, stop saying that Canadians chose Harper. I've never seen such a convergence AGAINST a candidate in an election before.
Terry Garcia
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Sharon
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Tom Hawley
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Doubt it.
Perhaps you should contact your MP's and have them overturn any motions that were passed with the support of the Bloc.
The Bloc is NOT part of the coalition.They are going to support the Lib/NDP coaltion.
As they did with the Conservatives.
Some that post should go see an optometrist.It has become obvious that some have lost their peripheral vision.
pat
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Tlast Ottawa
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The Socialist-Separatist Coalition has no legitimate reason for what they are doing. Clear thinking Canadians can see through the crap that it's really about their own jobs. It's not about what's good for Canada.
You know I can understand how some Canadians, (tree huggers that is. lol) see PM as a bully. That's because they haven't seen any real leadership in this country in generations. So they confuse big smiles and forking out taxpayers cash to special interest groups and dying industries as leadership. That's not leadership, that's political opportunity to get your vote, so they can continue to feed of the system. That's old political crap. PM Harper only has the best economic interests at heart for this country. Can he be trusted in this position? Of course he can. Do I like him and his personality? Perhaps not. Do I respect him and trust him to do the right thing? Absolutely.
At the end of the day, that's all that matters to me.
Kimberly Noronha
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Diane from Wainfleet
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Olivia
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Isabel
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Robert Nimmo
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My signs are ready to in the ground.
Louise Laporte
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Jim - Thornhill - Ontario
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He shouold have sucked it up and worked with the other parties and fast tracked Canada's economic and financial crisis plan.
When you play with fire there is a pretty good chance you get burned!
Yvon from Ottawa
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Paul in SJ
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Many people are saying to give the coalition a chance, that we don't want to spend $300M on another election. People forget that if we the people allow the coalition to take power then we are going to see a $30 Billion package that may or may not stimulate the economy. The professional opinions are mixed on wether or not a package would have an impact.
I would prefer to spend $300 million over $30 Billion any day. And this way we the people will have our say and once and tell the party leaders what our will is.
Rod Ennis-Smith
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2) Dion is the worst leader we have ever seen, a disater just looking for an oportunity, his own party agree.
3) Harper is a true leader,get on the train or move over.
4) In this coelition Qnebec would have the last word.what about the west?
5) This will be devasting to Canada.
Dave MacKinnon Barrie, ONT
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I find it interesting that Mr. Dion in his speech said Mr. Harper should accept the members of parliament decision that they have no confidence in his leadership and resign. How about Mr. Dion taking the decision of the Canadian electorate with a little grace and allowing Mr. Harper a chance. Let him table his first budget and see if it works. If not then form a coalition and bring down the government.
On a related note I don't hear any apologies coming from those NDP and Liberal spokespersons who essentially called Mr. Harper a liar when he said he called the election partly because parliament had come to a standstill because the opposition parties were not interested in working together.
Esther
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Darth Razmus, warlord of alberta
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garyjolly
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If dictator elect Dion can not even show enough respect for the media to provide a tape to them on time?
How are canadians supposed to believe he can get your EI check there on time or your tax refunds there on time?
He and his cronies are neither fit to govern much less mandated to govern. Parlimentary confidence, DOES NOT outway the vote totals.
Don't worry about Quebec seperating... right now everything west of Manitoba is talking seperation. That means no oil, no crops no lumber generally no basics for eastern canada.
The west is sick and tire of paying $1,25 of tax to quebec for every dollar in federal benefits they recieve.
The anger is not at the seperatists it is westernerners are not going to pay quebec to get out
Lorne Jordan
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Johann Flores -Vancouver
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BUT it can be said then that "technically" NOBODY voted for this Coalition because it did not exist prior to the election.
Let's settle it once and for all. CALL AN ELECTION.
Kerry in Calgary of the NEW Republic of Alberta
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Al -Ontario
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Dwight
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If the party falls we know longer live in a democratic country, we live in a country that the people have no say.
Lyndon
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Dave in Newington
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Never mind the $300 million it will cost, because the cost to democracy will be far more if this type of stunt is allowed to happen every time a minority government is elected.True democracy is a bargain at $8 each!
As far as having a low turnout, I think the turnout for any new election will be very high, showing these clowns exactly what Canadians think of them....
I just wonder if they will run in the next election as the "New Coalition", or if they will revert once more to their regular parties....either way I believe they will be on the receiving end of the ire of a LOT of working Canadians...emphasis on working....we can't all be MPs!
Metro Man
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John
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My greatest fear here is the BLOC, avowed to separate Quebec from Canada - but for the lust for power, Dion and Layton will do anything to get the power, even at the expense of a united Canada.
Greg S
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Peter
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Having arrived at this point, it only shows how the theater of politics as much as our justice system cannot be taken seriously... cynicism isn't born out of ignorance but rather stems from a system that is clearly bent on serving itself rather than the ones it is meant to serve. The terms de jure and de facto government inevitably come to mind...
Brett from burlington
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If we don't want to to down like the states we must forget about who the leader is and what party is in power... And worry about our weakening economy... Once that problem is fixed they can go on with this bickering in parliment
Pete in Victoria
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Secondly, the blame lies with the Prime Minister. He ran for the Conservatives during the election but after he must represent the views of all Canadians. Clearly he has failed to do this. Individually none of these parties are doing that. Each is representing their own interests. At least with a coalition the views of the minority of Canadians that voted are represented. Under the current regime, roughly 38% of the 16 million people who voted are represented...for those that say the PM and his ways represent all of how Canada is feeling, only 17% of Canada's population voted for him. Therefore I think the pleas that most of Canadians are for him and against the coalition are grossly exaggerated.
Mr PM. represent ALL Canadians and you have our support. Represent the limited views of those that supported you to become PM and you deal with the consequences.
I don't like what is happening but the current alternative is far worse.
D.B. Smith
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If this rage stays and I do mean rage, the Conservatives may just return to power with a majority and will put the redistribution of seats in the west where they should be.
With those new seats, Quebec and the Bloc will be on the outside looking in, with no leverage.
PS to all reports there are four provinces west of Ontario and Ontario is not happy as well.
James Reid
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Don't missconstrue the facts. Many of us in the east don't have any issues with the west, only with Stephen Harper! We need a leader. Someone who can show leadership, bridge barriers politically, morally and can govern in these turbulent times. What we don't need is a manipulating, hypocritical, self absorbed control freak. Everyone should ask for his resignation and give the job to someone who understands the reality of the times.
James from Hamilton
Don from Ottawa
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The socialist regime in Canada is out of control. It has whipped itself into such a self-righteous, hysterical frenzy that people like Elizabeth May can run around making asinine remarks about the Prime Minister surrounding Parliament with tanks, and nobody bats an eye.
This is the new "normal" in Canada, and Conservatives everywhere are sick of it. They've had enough. Change is coming, and the events unfolding in Ottawa just might prove to be the flash point.
Daniel, NL
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Harper has proven that he does not have the requisite skills to lead Canada diplomatically and with civility and cooperation and therefore, has to (legally) leave the leading to the chaperons.
Hopefully, the good citizens of Alberta and Quebec will ignore the desperate, hateful, fear mongering rhetoric coming from Mr. Harper and respect the Canadian Constitution that has (legally) served us so well since the inception of this great nation.
Bryan de Roos
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I guess Robin Williams was right when he stated in a movie was to treat politicians like diapers, change they often and for the same reason.
Same on all federal parties but especially the liberal and NDP for making a alliance with the bloc which is not a federal party to me.
You all are acting like bunch of spoiled kids
This is not the time for your power grabs,
Paul inDryden on.
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Close the doors.I feel that the GG should not give audience to the three stooges.
Doug Moen, Fergus ON
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Cheryl in Petawawa
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Maureen, B.C.
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Travel to the West & talk to the people!!
Debbie
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"PARLIAMENT PROROGUED WITHOUT PAY."
Debbie, Ottawa
Markus
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The time to work with the other parties was before they past the "mini budget" -Harper missed his chance.
Richard C. Harris
said
When an election for the Federal Canadian parliament is settled, the number of elected menbers of the leading party should be noted. Independent menbers, Parties with the least menbers should be removed from the parlaiment, in order of the least menbers, until the opposition has less menbers in the house than the ruling party. They would not be in a part of parliment until the next Federal election. This could remove those who are least represented by the votes of the people voting and remove the treat of ruining the palimentary process.
We have also seen that certain opposition menbers have acted like rabid wolves in parliamentary question period. There should be law which is inforced in parliament that if a member persists in disrubting the flow of business in question period by asking the same questions, even in different ways, the member will be escorted out of the property of the Parliament building and made to stay of this land for one full week by inforcment of the RCMP. That member will recieve no pay during this period. If the same menber repeats this disruption again they will recieve the same penalty. On a third repeat that member should be removed from perticipating in Federal politics in Canada in their life time.
Our parliament should not be trying to replace Royal Canadian Air Farce. Question peroid is not on the comidy network. They should not be infuriating voters, investers, employers hoping to stay in business, all of whom have watched the fabric of our society dissipate. What we need is stability, wise choices, builting confidence, not the anger of the voters. WE HAVE TO LET THE ELECTED MEMBERS OF THE CONSERVATIVE PARTY CONTINUE WITH THERE PLANNED APPROACH. WE MUST RESTICT REBELION. WE HAVE TO WORK TOGETHER TO TRY WITH GODS HELP TO TRY TO REBUILD CANADA BEFORE THIS TASK IS IMPOSSILE.
Ted
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Spending 30 billion is easy task, but we should identify the targets for spending. All top talented folks in US government still cannot find a way to find the crisis. How can these 3 partners assure their 30 billion plan should fix the current problems? If so, they will be moninated to the economic award next year. Please be noted that USA spent over 100 billion dollars, but, the situation is not fixed yet. How can our 30 billion do their work? Reality, NDP wants to give back money to big union. They don't care about the small business.
Why do we not give current government next 5 to 6 month probation?
Jeannette B
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We don't need a coalition espcially not that team, Dion, Layton, and Duceppe.
Dennis from Southport, MB
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If you listen to the "experts on the economy", they are split on what kind of or even if a stimulus package is required right now. If the putt looks like it could break left or right, it must be straight. Stay the course!
StandOnGaurd4Thee
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David Willis
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Leslie Steenson
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Second of all, the "coalition" just are trying to get their way once more which in the end will screw us even more since all they want is to benfit themselves and screw everyone else.
Our G.G needs to tell each of these guys to go to their corners till they want to actually sit down and be willing to help not hinder.
I think we need new people at the helm who actually think of the country and its people and what's best for them rather than trying to keep this power struggle up.
Guys it's time to finally grow up and put your big boy gitch on instead of acting like spoiled brats.
Hopefully we'll find some resolution sooner than later about this whole situation or we'll all be suffering.
Margaret MacDonald
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Evan Halifax
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Don't blink,don't back down.
laurence
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Gerard
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Jim Mount Forest Ontario
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dobby411
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Italy - 61 governments in the past 63 years.
India - As of July 15, 2008 the coalition government is made up of the following parties.
* Indian National Congress (153 MPs)
* Rashtriya Janata Dal (24 MPs)
* Dravida Munnetra Kazhagam (2 MPs)
* Nationalist Congress Party (11 MPs)
* Pattali Makkal Katchi (6 MPs)
* Jharkhand Mukti Morcha (5 MPs)
* Lok Janshakti Party (4 MPs)
* Marumalarchi Dravida Munnetra Kazhagam (rebel faction) (2 MPs)
* All India Majlis-e-Ittehadul Muslimeen (1 MP)
* People's Democratic Party (1 MP)
* Republican Party of India (Athvale) (1 MP)
* Sikkim Democratic Front (1 MP)
* Indian Union Muslim League (1 MP)
Outside support is currently being offered by the Samajwadi Party (33 MPs), the Bharatiya
Navshakti Party (1 MP), the National Conference (2 MPs) and by the National Loktantrik Party (1 MP). In addition, rebel MPs from Biju Janata Dal , the Bharatiya Janata Party, the
Janata Dal (United), the Telugu Desam Party and the independent MPs take the tally of UPA supporting MPs to 275.
Even the Sudan has had several coalition governments - though currently, I am not sure if
they have any government.
Come on Canada, let's join in!
Ronald in Toronto
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I find this attempt at stealing The House away from the elected government - at all costs to be an enlightenening exercise.
The NDP and, more specifically, the Liberals are once again revelaed to be a.) cynical opportunists and b.) the consistent liars, manipulators, elitists and spinmeisters they have demonstrated themselves to be in the past.
The Bloc cannot be faulted for responding as they are. They can, however, be faulted for their agenda.
I look for sanity in all of this and I find... in the person of Stephen Harper and his colleagues.
I do not write off the possibility that some Liberal or NDP backbenchers are coughing up bile and having more sobering, second thoughts on the conduct of their leadership.
Corey in Manitoba
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That being said, I still think we are in for a few surprized before Mondays vote. The libs may be planning a mutany of there leader, and not vote how he wants. If Dion's plan fails, the libs will be relagated to last place in the HOC, after the next election. Does Iggy really want that. If they do go through with a mutany, I think that the liberals would regain most of the credability they have lost because of Dion. Dion is famous for not listeneing to his advisors and he may have bitten off more than he can chew here.
Just a thought
Peter
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GG to refuse suspending parliament at the same time making it clear that she won't allow the coalition and a defeat of the government next Monday automatically means election.
This will force all four parties to work together for an economic package in this crunch time when the country needs political stability.
Mary Clarke
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That's exactly what the Separatists want.
Good going Dion and Layton.
No wonder decent Liberals like Frank Mckenna and John Manley want no part of this unholy alliance.
Judy - Montreal
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I find it so funny that the Coalition is talking about families and losing if their jobs. I believe that Mr Dion is too emotional to run a country and not a strong enough fiqure. I do believe that as Canadians we voted in the last election a minority gouvernment. I also believe the reason the Canadian people voted for this type of gouvernement is that they wanted it to work. All this is about is POWER and for sure they did not like the fact about removing the Public Financing of Political Parties. How do we expect the Coalition who is in debt themselves run this Country. I still cannot believe it - I listened to Mr Dion's speech and I know he is not the person to run the show. We should allow Mr Harper to run this gouvernment with the other parties as elected. I believe that our Gouvernment should be very careful on how they proceed. THE WORLD IS WATCHING! They are like a bunch of kids is a school yard - han han I am stronger than you. We as Canadians should be working together we have such a beautiful country and so much to be proud of. Let's show the WORLD on what we as Canadians are able to do. We are in a financial crisis it is not the time to be acting foolish. The priorty should be working together and not one against each other.
Yes, we should protect our jobs, but at what cost to the tax payer can we really afford to be so much more in debt, this is what Mr Harper would like to do is minimize this what do the other parties do not understand. It is not really a responsible way of doing business. During these times we cannot help everyone out - such as the cars companies they have put themselves in this mess - before handing any money then need a good plan. We must ask ourselves the new plant for Toyota why are they able to succeed and the Canadian and American automakers are not. I hope someone is asking the question.
I would like to mention that we all want to protect our jobs and our economy - BUY CANADIAN - As Canadians we must support our economy. Our Political Parties Logo should be BUY CANADIAN TO PROTECT OUR JOBS.
Please keep our Gouvernment as it was elected 3 weeks ago. They need to stop and listen to each other. The Canadian people do not want to be more in debt. Think of our future generations we should be building and not destroying.
Walter Lacombe
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Peter Colbourne (St-Jerome, QC)
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Selvin Montreal
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As to Dion's capacity of proper leadership: impossible.
As to the last-minute plan for a coalition: totally unprofessional and rather a knee-jerk reaction to a well-thought-out decision from the Tories to postpone the budget.
Will the GG acquiesce to Harper's demands? Very likely so.
Jen Ruch, Wpg
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our Veterans deserve more respect than this.
Harry Oosterhoff - Stony Plain, AB
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Mary Clarke
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Did it ever occur to you,that Alberta has been consistently left without any say ,while Eastern Canada controls the reigns?
And once again,that is happening.
The West has been asking to be represented for years,but the Eastern Politicians simply will not have it.
I think I'll move out West if they ever do separate.
That should make people like you happy,who believe that if your not a Liberal or NDP'er,you should have no voice at all.
Johnnie Oil
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Viva Alberta, BC and Sask are welcome to join as well.
Mary
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DGL
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Reece
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Tom in Edmonton
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Scott in Halifax
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Kate
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