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Date: Tue. Dec. 2 2008 5:11 PM ET
Experts are divided on the future of Stephen Harper should a proposed Liberal-NDP coalition government take power, even temporarily.
Given that the only mechanism for removing Harper from the leadership would be a convention vote, said political scientist Faron Ellis, Harper may be able to stay on as opposition leader long enough to wait for the coalition to fall apart.
Although confidence among Harper's caucus is likely shaken, Conservative MPs will rally around their embattled leader to ensure party solidarity, according to Ellis.
"If he faced a caucus revolt or something like that, then he has to make a determination about whether or not number one, he wants to stay and fight it out or number two, if he can," Ellis, a political scientist at Lethbridge College and an analyst for the Conservative Party, told CTV.ca. "And I would think that if he determines that he wants to, he certainly can."
On Monday NDP Leader Jack Layton, outgoing Liberal Leader Stephane Dion and Bloc Leader Gilles Duceppe signalled their intention to defeat the Conservatives in a confidence vote next week and form a coalition government.
The move is largely a reaction to last week's economic update, delivered by Finance Minister Jim Flaherty, which left out a plan for stimulating the slumping economy and included cuts of public funding to the political parties.
Experts agree that Harper likely misjudged the political climate, and assumed that the opposition would not send Canadians to the polls again by voting against the plan.
Now he is left with few options.
Harper may be able to cling to power if he asks Gov. Gen. Michaelle Jean to prorogue Parliament until some time in January, a move that could come as early as today.
"If she agrees, which is not necessarily a given, he brings Parliament back early in January and at that time brings in a budget, which offers stimulus, is particularly appealing to Quebec, and says to the Parliament: Support this or fight an election," Toronto Star columnist Jim Travers said Tuesday on CTV Newsnet.
"In which case he is back in control of the situation. Wounded, yes, damaged, yes, but back in control of the situation."
Others believe that should the Liberals and NDP take power, Harper would likely choose to leave politics rather than lead the opposition or serve as a mere MP under a new leader.
Freelance political consultant Gerry Nicholls, who worked with Harper at the National Citizen's Coalition, said Harper would likely not let himself get pushed out of the leader's chair.
"I think he would quit politics altogether," Nicholls told CTV.ca. "I could not see him being second banana in any scenario."
Calling Harper "the Genghis Khan of Canadian politics - he likes to wage war, total war," Nicholls said the party funding measure was an attempt to bankrupt the Liberal Party.
Harper has long felt that the ideal political climate would be to have a Conservative party up against a socialist party, Nicholls said, and the economic update may have been his attempt to realize that goal.
"The blind spot was the coalition. I don't think a lot of people thought about this," Nicholls said.
No matter what happens, Harper will have to take the blame for the current political crisis.
"Stephen's chief adviser is Stephen. That's always the way it's been. He considers himself the top strategist," Nicholls said. "And so I think that if there's any blame that this didn't work, then I think that blame has to be assigned to the prime minister."
Which leads Nelson Wiseman, an associate professor of political science at the University of Toronto, to conclude that Harper's political career may well be over.
Wiseman believes that Harper's political capital has depreciated so much, that "he's probably toast."
"By calling the election, he was too clever by half," Nelson told CTV.ca. "And now in introducing what he did in the fiscal update, the stranglehold on party financing, he demonstrated that he's two clever by three-quarters."
Harper's biographer, William Johnson, author of "Stephen Harper and the Future of Canada," disagrees.
"I think he'll stay on because he'll realize it's a very jerry-rigged government," Johnson told CTV.ca. "It will bring about a crisis and he'll want to be there to deal with it, even if he's leader of the opposition."
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I applaud the budget, even though Health Care and education may stay unscathed. Sadly this cannot last and I worry to later this year where cuts will become enviable. If anything, this provides the Wildrose Alliance plenty of ammo when an election is called.



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Sherry
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JayRoc
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Chris
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pete
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Mike
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KJ in Kingston Ontario
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Edb
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By cutting off TAXPAYER funds to a party which seeks an end to Canada.Are you kidding, the Bloc(heads) and the other 2 stooges should be on trial for treason...end of story!
Glo
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Fred, Ottawa
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He would have done better beating a giant wasp's nets with a stick...naked
Jamie
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The bigger tragedy here that is being glossed over because it's way more sensational to do so is the fact the the people who were NOT voted in are trying to weasel their way into power to do what the voters do NOT want them to do. IE: try to spend the Country's way out of debt. Try doing that at home and see where it gets you.
concern
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Kelly O from Medicine Hat Ab
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Harper is trying to show that the government is willing to do what it takes to get us on track but the opposition would rather bury Canada in debt. If the opposition parties cant get their own funding then they shouldnt be in existence. Why should the Canadian people be paying rich people to run for politics? If they want to run they can pay their own way. Keep u the good work Harper. If the opposition pulls this crap they will hear all about it in the next election. They have lost my vote forever.
JP
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He made a Bad decision-
He called an election that was NOT needed, he woudl not allow parliment to function so he called an election -
He got a minority because people could not trust him.
One week he says that all parties should work togther then next week he act like a Ruler-
No he and his puppets will hav e to pay the price
Jim in the West
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Harper's obsession with the destruction of the Liberal party may well have cost him the support of his own. We didn't elect him to serve his own agenda. We elected him to serve the country.
Ian Barr
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That said, the fact that the coalition has to rely on the support of the Bloc gives the GG a viable excuse to allow Harper to prorogue Parliament until he can get a proper fiscal act together... Interesting times.
les McLeod
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Jonathan
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Good luck, I say, to Dion and his cabal. I'm mad as hell about their antics, and when they've screwed over our country I hope the majority of Canadians will be too.
Jack Yellin
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Buba
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Like most bullies, if you face them down they blink and he did.
It's time the CPC got a leader who is ready to work within the framework of Parliament and not act like a martinet.
Tara in Toronto
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Kim
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I THOUGHT we were a democratic country! My Prime Minister is Harper. Even though I didn't vote for him, (although now I wish I had!) I support him and think that if the PEOPLE want him out, then we should have another election.
terry salmon arm, bc
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PM
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DSmith
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Lets be realistic, the NDP holding cabinet positions??? Are we in a Doctor Seuss story?:)
brenda
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G-RANT
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Bye Steve!
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C. Viens
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jimmy - ottawa
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Bill Kure
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Rob Pirie
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But, the coalition is scary, over reaction and not my idea of how to govern for the people.
I also don't think Jim Flaherty has been properly treated by the opposition. He has afterall kept us out of a recession so far amid the disaters around us and he has taken bold plans way before the finest mids in the world had reacted. He still can add value to our situation as long as we do not erode our fabric.
I think the coalition is a disgrace and an abuse of power. I don't trust any of them to do the right thing and it's not what me, friends or family want. We want government to work or take a hike and let adults take over.
Dan
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Dan- Calgary
Kim from Burlington, Ontario
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Speak up! Call your MP or send them an e-mail. To sit back, and do nothing in silence, merely condones their reckless behaviour at our expense!
dave calgary
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Les - Toronto
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Jim-Surrey
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Kudos Mr Harper it is just too bad the sore losers are not man enough to deal with it or realize the cuts need to happen. After all you did it to your own party as well they just were not financially sound
Marcel
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Robert Kamala
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Jason From Woodstock, ON
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James in New Brunswick
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As it is, Dion has been "selected" to head this coalition because he is completely expendable. If this blows up in their faces, its all Dion's fault.
I can't wait to see what Rick Mercer makes of this all!
Ian Ottawa
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duck
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Corey
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Jack Owen Sound ON
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Cambob
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Obviously, Harper is insane!
Arlene
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Rodney Kiddle Alberta
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Judy
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Arthur
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Nicole
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Ed harry
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Howard
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Majority Coalition govt
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Lynn
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Len
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David in Ottawa
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Bob
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Alex (Toronto)
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If we had maintained the Martin budget surpluses, the government could have maintained the social safety net, offered effective support to the financial sector, and put some real money into economic stimulus without going into deficit. Now we're going to have a deficit. Harper was clearly okay with that, but only when it was his deficit.
The Tories might want to find a leader who doesn't impose his anger management issues on the whole country. The purpose of the Progressive Conservative party had been to promote a conservative agenda without indulging the right-wing extremists. The new non-progressive Conservatives couldn't get a majority government against one of the least popular Liberal leaders in history. Compromise is a traditional Canadian political value, and Conservatives aren't going to see much time in government in future years if they don't move towards the centre.
Jake in Manitoba
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Holmesy
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Remeber it is healthy to have strong opposition parties to keep governments in check. This coalition is not a bad thing. It is a cleansing of sorts so the Conservatives can find a more middle of the road leader.
Ken
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If only Quebec had separated when we had the chance to get rid of them...OH IF ONLY
Tori
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Cutting taxpayer funding from political parties, a great idea but political suicide.
I sure hope he is a magician as well as an economist because he is in one hell of a bees nest and another election is the only way out.
Good luck Mr PM, you are going to need it.
Blake
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Keith in Brampton
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a) the motion would pass and he'd have crippled his opposition financially; or
b) the government would be defeated and, with the Liberals still in disarray and essentially leaderless, and with the electorate (theoretically) angry at the opposition for forcing a second election so quickly, he'd get his majority.
He thought it was win/win; since he failed at option C when he was Opposition Leader, he just arrogantly assumed no one else would be able to pull it off either.
Judging by public reaction, if he can get the GG to agree to call another election, he may still get his majority (and God help us then!).
No matter what happens, it will certainly be a good lesson to us all on the more arcane elements of our parliamentary system...
Edwina
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Ella
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Mike
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Frank in Huntsville
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Sharon Trusty, 5th generation Canadian
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The coalition forms the majority of house seats. May the majority rule with a saner head than the current minority goverment.
Chris, Edmonton
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cal
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Chris M, Saskatoon
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Horatio
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Gary R. ...Whitby
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Helen in Halifax, NS
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James in Winnipeg by way of N.S.
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For those of you supporting this coalition, keep in mind that the party heading it is bankrupt and fractured, its primary supporter has never and will never have relevance in Canadian politics ... oh and lest we forget that nasty separatist party that I know you all hate so much when its convenient for you!
If a coalition government wants to take over, fine. That's constitutionally legitimate but NOT with the support of a party whose sole purpose is to tear this country apart!
Evan in Athabasca
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I feel that who ever feels that combined results should be weighed should give the head a shake..... nothing was discussed at all about a coalition government, so go to the polls, the ppl will definitely show up this time, majority seats in any one party rules....
Anita Edmonton
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Howard (Waterloo)
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john macdonald
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Steve B.
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Bewildered in Toronto
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As a simmering conspiracy-freak mentioned yesterday: "Harper dangled this one as bait to bring out the carnivores."
Even if that's not the case, it seems to have worked and the wannabes have been well and truely revealed for what they are.
Brett
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Bob Radcliffe
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CAK
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Ross
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Voter’s elected a minority government, not a majority. The majority of elected officials will take control if the minority government can’t learn to play with others.
Craig from NS
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I'm not happy that the coalition was formed, but I can understand it. Harper is the dictator here and like any dictator he has to be taken out in any way possible. At least it's done politically instead of what happens in some far away lands. Harper needs to go, so the conservatives can get someone in there that can actually govern.
Gil Hurtubise
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It's a sad situation when our constitution and parliamentary system allows losers (opposition parties) to hijack the National Government with the intent of burying us in debt and maintaining their party perks at the expense of taxpayers. Why do we have elections if a bunch of sore losers/disgruntled politicians can redefine the wishes of the majority of Canadians to suit themselves? The Opposition parties are behaving like a bunch of children instead of contributing positively to the stability of the country no matter what nice words they use to camouflage their actions. Absolutely disgusting!!!
Jake in Ontario
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Stephen Harper has reinstilled Canadian patriotism, made efforts to rebuild the military, and restored Canada's presence on the world stage.
This is now being lost to tyranny, greed, and socialist scheming. The Liberals and NDP are taking power by be-friending a party that is dedicated to the dissolution of Canada! This WILL strengthen the voices of separatists.
Canada will now brace for the weakest, most disgraceful PM in its history...Dion...not a leader.
Joan Van Den Bergh
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Wendy
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Joseph
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JW
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ed
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Catherine Morie Alberta
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Now all Canada can see the mean "little" man that thought he could pull another dirty trick on Canada. Now he is crying foul because the opposition have turned on him....Harper proved he cares more about himself and power than he does about the economy of Canada and about the people.Arrogance will get him nothing.
Gary Hale
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S Hurn
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Tait ,Calgary
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Looks good on him !!!
Nicole
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Norm in Calgary
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Mike from Canmore
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This is good news in the long run although the optics in the short term are bad.
Good for these leaders who are truly showing leadership.
People....remember.....more people voted AGAINST the Conservatives than those who voted FOR the Conservatives. Had there been only one party, Harper would never have become PM in the first place.
Pat_from_Mississauga
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Good riddance Stephen Harper!
don hoskins, ottawa
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Chris
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glenn shoebridge
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Now the loser's are acting like children and throwing a temper tantrum because they can't have thing's there way.
It doesn't seem like they had any intention to try to get along with the Harper Goverment.
If this farce get's as far as the Governor General,i hope she refuses and call's for another election,so we the people can decide not these three stooges
If this get's as far
Johnny Smith
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RRor
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Re: Harper cannot be trusted
Show me good reason to trust Dion or the rest or this coalition. If the coalition didn't rely on a party whose raison d'etre is to seperate from the rest of Canada, I would fell alot better about it but I can't accept a government bent on destroying our country. How do you trust Dion in this instance? What has he given up in consessions to get Bloc support? I can't trust any of them Lib, NDP, Green and least of all the Bloc when they plot behind closed doors against the elected Government of Canada
bouncinjo
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Shay
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RRO
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He was trying to show that the Government was willing to share some of the hardship associated with the current economic situation.
The Liberals and NDP want to throw money at the problem. We sough how that worked in Ontario.
This coallition won't work. It may gain power, but it will flounder and make the recession work. It will scare investors because of the uncertainty. In the end it will rip itself apart.
Frankly this reminds me all to much of the coalition of the willing.
Canadians voted against Stephen Dion, what right does he have to become Prime Minister of Canada. The NDP, have never governed federally because Canadians don't want them to. The Bloc Quebecois wants to rip this country apart. These three parties are going to lead this country through one of the worst financial crisis in a generation.
I say let them try, in two months we will have an election, and then Harper will be given a REAL majority.
gerry
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Stuart
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I would rather see a vote instead of a takeover. But in a typical conservative ploy, the drop the ball for the rest of Canada. What we need is our government to work through these trying times. Let's hope this get's sorted out soon.
Gilles Lebrun
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Stop the whining and the griping and read up on how our parliamentary systems works!
Sam
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RRO
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We are going to have an NDP Health Minister, I guarantee. They are going to want control over Health and one or two of the other major portfolios. They are going to drive a very socialist agenda, which most Liberals won't agree with, but for the sake of holding power they will agree.
The last election was Canadians voting against Stephan Dion, how can this man now become Prime Minister through such a unbelievable power grab.
Tyson AB
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Think outside the tube.
Everyone hates taxes , but you all love to drive.
Sean in New Orleans, Louisiana -Cannuck Transplant
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The coalition is not doing anything illegal, by the way, they are working the system the way it was intended.
H. from Toronto
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Be open minded, be modest like Mr. Obama - your neighbour. Take some notes from him. People like him becasue he really show that he cares, he listens, and he helps out - right away - not TWO MONTHS LATER - NOT NEXT YEAR!
We don't know whether the G.G. nor the Canadian people will give us another chance or not!
Learn a valuable lesson - think before you talk! Could you please SHOW US ALL THAT YOU REALLY CARES FOR THIS COUNTRY IN ACTION!
Unbelievable
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With the world economic upheaval, a coalition government is a good thing?? Wow! Let's look around at some third world countries and see how it is working for them.
Don't beleve me? What have the markets (driven by investors from all over the world) done since this idea has surfaced. The markets in Canada tanked!
Even outsiders are unimpressed.
Call an election to settle this! Oh gee, we just did this 2 months ago, and I guess that isn't good enough for the three parties. THey are only helping us poor dim whitted voters who must of voted in error.
Time to revamp our electorate and make it work as the voice of Canadian people!
RRO
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Oh wait, its because they disagree about as much as they disagree with Harper.
These parties have two different views on pretty much everything. Dion will try to push his green plan, a plan Layton hates.
Layton spent the election telling people that Dion was a weak leader who would be bad for Canada, now he is going to make him Prime Minister.
This coalition is already doomed. Its going to take the Liberal Party down with it.
Maybe a two party system is best. Conservative and Liberal both battling for the center.
As for campaing finances, why should my tax dollars support a party that I don't support. If I want to give money to a political party that should be my choice.
Tim Bunker from Halifax
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So people, cut out this "we didn't elect them" bullcrap. You should read up on how our parliamentary system work.
Hey, I'm a Liberal voter, but I still care for it. But, I did help to elect my MP to parliament and in doing so I give his party the mandate to take part in this if they feel fit.
Rob
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Michele
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Rob
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Jason
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Alex Kimmerly
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“I would certainly not want to find myself governing this economy today … under a situation where I was required to follow socialist economics and be at the behest of the veto of the separatists.” – Stephen Harper, Dec 2, 2008
He learned from Joe Clark what would happen if he abused his minority.
A) another election
B) a coalition which he could attack
Our Prime Minister, Mr. Harper cowardly chose not to lead this country into a time of crisis. He chose to use this as an opportunity to attempt a power-grab for a majority government.
e-medhat
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Patricia
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Brenda
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Mike from Calgary
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Char
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A. K.
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Also, the formation of a coalition is legitimate and legal, when we have a minority government. It is a viable choice. Mr. Harper and his Conservatives are, and always have been, arrogant and dismissive in dealing with ordinary Candians and their problems. It is Stephen Harper, himself, who is the power monger - not the coalition.
Anthony
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Randall
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Jonathan-Winnipeg
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Joe
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John W.
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Wake up people no matter what would have been done, the opposition did not like that they have no chance to gain power because the country did not vote in majority for them.
Liberal all time low in support, Bloc separatist and does not care about Canada, NDP bitter about getting less seats then even the Bloc in some election, the Conservative could have had a stimulus package of 30 Billion and they would have said it was too much, it's politics and we the people just got punkd.
John Mavridis
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Mike Edmonton
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Craig Reddog of Cape Breton
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Harper is pure Conservative and I'm sure he will step down as leader if he were asked.
Having said that, I think the CPC will have it's highest ratings ever when this is all over. The Lib's and NDP will be history. Who cares about the BLOC?
Adam S., Ottawa
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No, Mr. Harper is not through yet. But the integrity of Dion certainlly is.
j flesch
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Colin Blackburn
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The leaders? of the Opposition give a whole new meaning and level to the word "bastards."
Jay, Ottawa
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Why is Harper still hanging around?
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IT'S OVER
Hatprt has disrupted Parliament enough
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Get out, Harper.
Parliament has work to do.
Defeat EasternCoalition
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GoToYourRoom.
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Jordano
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Joe
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Nabila - Vancouver
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Yes it's legal constitutionally but seriously, MPs have more important things to deal with right now than a political crisis like..*sarcastic* hmmmm..Afghanistan, and oh-I-almost-forgot, THE ECONOMY
Jay, Ottawa
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Kevin in Vic
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Rich
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Get the facts straight those of you that are saying the tories and reform did EXACTLY the same thing 4 years ago. Where is the Reform party now? A NEW party was formed then. What the liberals, ndp and bloc want is 3 seperate parties sharing power. That is NOT what Canada voted for in Oct.
HarpersGottaGo
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Robson
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Pat from Calgary
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ken campbell
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Sharon
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JD from Surrey, BC
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BC Wet Coaster
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Seriously, I feel like my money has been wasted. Time to bring back the Rhinoceros party.
Mark in LA
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I've read the comments and it appears clear that those that voted Conservative see this as an 'evil' act on the part of the other parties.
However, they are simply doing what Canadian political laws allow.
Harper made a BIG mistake when he assumed he was in control and could do what he wanted with a minority government.
Democracy is not supposed to result in a minority controlling the country. At least the coalition parties received the support of over 50% of the electorate.
Good Riddance, Harper!!
(And a nice send-off for Dion after all his struggles...)
Becky
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Ken - Calgary
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John from Fredericton
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I have no love for Stephen Harper and I will continue to vote Liberal while he sits as leader of the Conservative Party. Once he is gone, I will be a free agent in the political spectrum.
shane kearns
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Jim (MTL)
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KC
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We are not the USA and we do not vote for a leader.
The group with the most seats gets to select the Prime Minister.... Harper does not seem to get it.
Those who are upset and call this undemocratic and a coup, must think we live in the US. This is Canada, deal with it, Harper made a boo-boo and now the Conservatives are toast.
They will have to wait until the coalition falls apart and then try to win the next election. (Hopefully without Harper)
KC from Calgary
Found Sound
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Sean Dawson
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Richard - New Brunswick
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Metro
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Having gained a mere five seats at a cost of roughly $60 million each, he then tried to gut a campaign finance law his party helped make necessary, and was astounded when the people a majority of Canadians voted for turned around and bit him in the ass.
Now he's standing there gulping like a fish and wondering when the sheep started to bite.
Couldn't happen to a nicer guy.
Here's to Canadian Parliamentary democracy!
Tom, Newmarket, ON
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Harper has made it clear he doesn't know how to make a minority government work. A coalition is hardly an ideal situation, but it'll get the bully out of 24 Sussex.
L in Sask
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If you want the economy to tank ,support this coalition because Dion and Layton will do a great job of it. Their only solution is to panic and tell people to stop spending money.
Hap Stokes
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I DID NOT vote for Mr Dion to be my PM. Nor did the vast majority because he only had 26%, while Mr Harper who I did vote for has 37%. Seems those easterners have trouble with math. Do you really think 37 is lesser than 26?
Kris
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As it stands, the majority of the voters DIDN'T vote for the Conservatives. So when the majority can agree upon something, that is actually a small miracle!
Andrew - 8th Generation Canadian
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The liberal media has been subtly suggesting Baird for years. I do not accept it. It will not be easy to find another Conservative who can lead the party. Better stick with Harper for now.
stuart douglass
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The future of effective democracy in this country depends on the removal of Steven Harper as a political entity. If Steven Harper is allowed to remain and simply shelves his antidemocratic plan, then it is only a matter of time before he actually cripples democracy. The Prime Minister of Canada has a profound duty to protect and foster democracy in this country. It should be against the law (as a conflict of interest) to allow a governing party to threaten the very survival of the opposing parties.
Any governing party already has an inherent advantage right up until an election campaign is called; the cabinet ministers have large numbers of staff, they get to fly free of charge on government jets, have the civil service working on their behalf, paid announcements on their initiatives etc.
This was not an error of judgment, this was an attempt at creating a one party state and no matter who you have voted for, this is a much bigger issue for the future of this great country. Stephen Harper must be taken out of politics for this outrage.
M M B Ont
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I know this won't get printed because none of my other dozen or so comments ever reached print, but I keep trying!
Charles
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Now, the best thing for the country is to prorogue parliament until the budget, and make the opposition produce their plan, costed, and with a date when they will put it in place, because the devil is in the details here. Note, they admit they can't cost it or even say when it will be put in place-what if it takes longer than the government's plan to
activate, then the whole justification for bringing down the government goes out the window.
Don London
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Dave
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wreck76
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#1)the coalition fails and his economic plan goes through. Then we have a still stable economy and he can see what has to be done about it when the bottom hits.
#2) the stooges take power. How long do you think that will last? 18 months, i doubt it. so an election will be called and these three parties are going to get hurt for sending us to the polls again and putting us in huge debt. Harper gets a majority
Harper's only mistake in the last election was thinking taht the french vote was stable. Quebec cost him the majority, and i don't think that will happen again.
it's about time
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K D
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wayne
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The issue is that Harper cannot be trusted.
-----------------------------OH COME on!!
Seems there was a time when those scoundrel libs were arse deep into billion dollar gun license scams..Harper is the only Prime.M who IS doing what they SAID!Remeber crutch-ian with his GST removal scam?
ANYthing that has ties or roots with Liberals is a sham.This latest fiascal is NOTHING more than sandbox mindsets broadcasting on the world stage amid a slippery finacial slope just how dopey this coalition of..boys?
This is N-O-T acceptable
how these 3 stooges can disrupt a perfectly fuctioning country based upon poor sportsmanship in losing a completely legal election that has NOW passed!
If the people are the Government of a democratic country,where was i when this hasty coaltion decision was made..does my vote actually count for anything? I did vote Harper,now dammit deliver!
Sam
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Eliz
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wilbil
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I'll be voting for the Separatists.
Mark/Oshawa
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Dion was soundly rejected by Canadians and his own party is ejecting him and now you see his far left wing socialist attempt to seize power via coup.
The GG if it comes down to it must call an election in our democratic Canada to let the people decide who shall govern us.
juli
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Rob Ennor
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Any thoughts?
In my view, Harper is now done. Regardless of whether people are for or against a coalition, the PM has made it clear that he has no understanding of what people expect of him. He can join John and Joe and Paul and Kim as a panelist on "Canada's Next Prime Minister"
Jaslyn
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This back-room conspiracy is disgusting at best. What an embarrasment to Canada hence this coalition go force, it's embarrasing enough it's even brought up... and over what? Because Harper was doing the RIGHT thing by pulling the free funding of the political parties?
How many of us are even aware the percentage of our paid income taxes that goto party funding, without a receipt to use as writeoffs?
That's crap in itself and parties SHOULD have to do their own fundraising, and supply a receipt to their donaters.
Take away their candy and chocolate and this is what happens.
And Pete... it's DION who's hated by his own party... geesh.
Mr. Dee
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KEN
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The money he wants to cut is there to help the parties that need help so the people have a say, otherwise the corporations will be running our country. We are in a recession people, Big business are the only ones who have the money to support a party..Can you afford to support your party? I think Harper timed this perfectly. Get rid of the competition.
dj
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I got tired of the politics in my mother country (Asia) but just like anywhere else, politicians are WHINERS and disgusting. Why can't they give the current government a chance to govern and finish their job/term?
We just had our unplanned election 6 weeks ago, not to mention the wasted time & money, to accommodate these whiners ---and the people have spoken by electing PM Harper again.
Clearly, they lost in the election...so it's common sense, the majority don't support their agenda/flatform. Why is it so hard for them to understand that.
Instead, focus on the real issues --if they really want to serve our people & country. Find solutions to our alarming CRIME now-a-days due to gangs & drugs, homelessness and many more.
Please RESPECT the people's decision and wait for your turn. Afterall, we teach our kids to take turns, right?
Harper did it to himself
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Bruce
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If we have a government that is in essence ruled by the Bloc, we are in HUGE trouble.
I mean it....BIG trouble. We will be no better than Italy or France with all their coalition parties that come and go ad nauseum.
Jamie BC
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KM
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Greg
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E. L. Donaldson
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Peter Burgess
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JayRoc says:
'The hypocrisy of the Tories for decrying the coalition is shocking, given that they tried to do the EXACT same thing just 4 years ago."
And what was the difference here jayRoc? Oh that's right...it was against Martin who didn't get voted in but rather had the PM position *given* to him after a disgraced Cretchien handed it to him on his way out.
Why not actually learn the story behingd the talking points instead of just regurgitating them.
Gwen Burns, Oromocto, NB
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janet b
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Elaine
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AMG - BC
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"Removing public funds from political parties(especially a separatist one) was a good idea".
You'd prefer then that they got their funding/kickbacks, similar to the CPC, from corporate sponsors who historically back the party who they believe will win.
Laureane Lukawesky
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Don in BC
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dj
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Delcourt
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This is Canada. The privilege to govern must be earned, not taken. We cannot let this happen. It'sa scandal! When an election occurs - and it must - the Conservative Party will have to wage the fight of its life.We now know we are no longer competing just with the Official Opposition. We are competing against a coordinated campaign between Liberals, socialists and separatists to impose their agenda on Canadians. Canadian citizens cannot fall in this trap!
Thanks you to give me the opportunity to share in public my opinion.
Olivier Delcourt.
Mark
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Andy
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AS001
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Sad Canadian
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One needs to hope that they don't try to walk all over Western Canada in an effort to shore up the eastern economy. Should the three westernmost provinces balk and start talking separation, that would leave Newfoundland as the only have province to pay for the coalition bailout scheme.
Frankly, I think it's a good idea to cut the public funding to political parties. I absolutely do not want a separatist party getting a dime. Sadly, the timing of this could have been better.
Cheryl Dennis Bowmanville Ontario
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Randy Luyk
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Instead of economic stimulus he wanted to get petty with party funding.
ouifyg
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In a two party system, like they have in the States, a change in power without an election would be a problem. In Canada, however, we have FIVE parties. If you don't get more than half the seats, then you need other parties to help you pass legislation. This is no different except that instead of voting on legislation they are effectivly voting on a leader. The conservatives don't have half the seats, so they're not going to be able to vote in their leader without the support of another party.
We elcet MPs and they elect a leader, that's how its always worked. All these cries of "power grabbing" and "treason" are just ridiculous.
Carla in the West
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adrian telizyn NE BC
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The per-ballot taxpayer funding to the parties HAS to go.
It's time for the West to say "stick it" to Ontario and Quebec once and for all.
"No more prime ministers from Quebec" still adorns the bumper of my pickup truck.
Jason in Edmonton
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Michael
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Dennis Lukawesky
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Jacqueline
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Sebastian from Brampton
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HARPER FOR PM - I think that Harper is one of better PMs in rescent history - those that endors him should join his party as show of support - once he sees the growing support for him let him call the election - I'll vote for him. To join a party in Canada it only costs $10/year money well spent I think. Vote HARPER.
IT IS TREASON FOR allowing QC to form government. I mean it is idiotic for minority to represent majority. Also they are openly wanting to separate hence break up the country. SO they cannot possibly work in the interest of all the Canadians.
laughing in Brantford
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Kris D
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Um, the opposition parties ARE working together. That is the whole point of a “coalition”.
They were left no choice after Harper's broken promise to work with them and consult them. Not only did he fail to consult the opposition - a must in a minority parliament - he tried to introduce partisan right-wing policies while offering nothing for workers/investors in the middle of economic meltdown.
It was just a really, really bad move on his part. It was only a matter of time before the opposition stood up for themselves against these bully tactics.
Eventually, all bullies fall and learn their lesson.
Scott Mills
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Chris from Calgary
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Why should Canadians prop up any Federal parties. Sink or swim, if you want to play with the big boys! AS a senior citizen, I am tired of my tax dollar going to feather the nests of politicians, while I live on a fixed income.