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Date: Tue. Dec. 2 2008 5:11 PM ET

Experts are divided on the future of Stephen Harper should a proposed Liberal-NDP coalition government take power, even temporarily.

Given that the only mechanism for removing Harper from the leadership would be a convention vote, said political scientist Faron Ellis, Harper may be able to stay on as opposition leader long enough to wait for the coalition to fall apart.

Although confidence among Harper's caucus is likely shaken, Conservative MPs will rally around their embattled leader to ensure party solidarity, according to Ellis.

"If he faced a caucus revolt or something like that, then he has to make a determination about whether or not number one, he wants to stay and fight it out or number two, if he can," Ellis, a political scientist at Lethbridge College and an analyst for the Conservative Party, told CTV.ca. "And I would think that if he determines that he wants to, he certainly can."

On Monday NDP Leader Jack Layton, outgoing Liberal Leader Stephane Dion and Bloc Leader Gilles Duceppe signalled their intention to defeat the Conservatives in a confidence vote next week and form a coalition government.

The move is largely a reaction to last week's economic update, delivered by Finance Minister Jim Flaherty, which left out a plan for stimulating the slumping economy and included cuts of public funding to the political parties.

Experts agree that Harper likely misjudged the political climate, and assumed that the opposition would not send Canadians to the polls again by voting against the plan.

Now he is left with few options.

Harper may be able to cling to power if he asks Gov. Gen. Michaelle Jean to prorogue Parliament until some time in January, a move that could come as early as today.

"If she agrees, which is not necessarily a given, he brings Parliament back early in January and at that time brings in a budget, which offers stimulus, is particularly appealing to Quebec, and says to the Parliament: Support this or fight an election," Toronto Star columnist Jim Travers said Tuesday on CTV Newsnet.

"In which case he is back in control of the situation. Wounded, yes, damaged, yes, but back in control of the situation."

Others believe that should the Liberals and NDP take power, Harper would likely choose to leave politics rather than lead the opposition or serve as a mere MP under a new leader.

Freelance political consultant Gerry Nicholls, who worked with Harper at the National Citizen's Coalition, said Harper would likely not let himself get pushed out of the leader's chair.

"I think he would quit politics altogether," Nicholls told CTV.ca. "I could not see him being second banana in any scenario."

Calling Harper "the Genghis Khan of Canadian politics - he likes to wage war, total war," Nicholls said the party funding measure was an attempt to bankrupt the Liberal Party.

Harper has long felt that the ideal political climate would be to have a Conservative party up against a socialist party, Nicholls said, and the economic update may have been his attempt to realize that goal.

"The blind spot was the coalition. I don't think a lot of people thought about this," Nicholls said.

No matter what happens, Harper will have to take the blame for the current political crisis.

"Stephen's chief adviser is Stephen. That's always the way it's been. He considers himself the top strategist," Nicholls said. "And so I think that if there's any blame that this didn't work, then I think that blame has to be assigned to the prime minister."

Which leads Nelson Wiseman, an associate professor of political science at the University of Toronto, to conclude that Harper's political career may well be over.

Wiseman believes that Harper's political capital has depreciated so much, that "he's probably toast."

"By calling the election, he was too clever by half," Nelson told CTV.ca. "And now in introducing what he did in the fiscal update, the stranglehold on party financing, he demonstrated that he's two clever by three-quarters."

Harper's biographer, William Johnson, author of "Stephen Harper and the Future of Canada," disagrees.

"I think he'll stay on because he'll realize it's a very jerry-rigged government," Johnson told CTV.ca. "It will bring about a crisis and he'll want to be there to deal with it, even if he's leader of the opposition."

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Sherry
said

No he is not .. these guys had this plan already hatched before the bill came up!


JayRoc
said

The hypocrisy of the Tories for decrying the coalition is shocking, given that they tried to do the EXACT same thing just 4 years ago.


Chris
said

I hope that we get to vote on this issue. If I would have known that my NDP party that i voted for would team up with liberals, i would not have voted for the NDP.


pete
said

So where are all the Harper supporters now?? Even his own party is PO'd at him!!


Mike
said

Harper is the only one to blame here. On behalf of NewFoundLand Harper. I wish you good luck finding a job, I hear work is scare... LOL maybe you can get a job at a chicken farm collecting eggs.


KJ in Kingston Ontario
said

It was a VERY big mistake to call the election ahead of the original fixed election date in October 2009 and to bring forward a partisan proposal to hurt the opposition when they had NOTHING to lose by responding by any means. There can be no mistake about that. Anyone who says they are going to act like they have a majority when they don't have one obviously missed classes the day they taught the lesson on Prime Minister Joe Clark in Canadian history.


Edb
said

"error in judgment" ?
By cutting off TAXPAYER funds to a party which seeks an end to Canada.Are you kidding, the Bloc(heads) and the other 2 stooges should be on trial for treason...end of story!


Glo
said

I agree that Harper did this to himself. He made a mistake. But the thing is... who doesn't? The key is that he's made concessions, withdrawn the controversial issues, but we all know the opposition parties just want power. No need to try and work things out when you can just have secret meetings and just take what you, right?


Fred, Ottawa
said

Error in judgement, d'ya think?

He would have done better beating a giant wasp's nets with a stick...naked


Jamie
said

Removing public funds from party coffers is a GREAT idea and was not an error. But, timing is everything.

The bigger tragedy here that is being glossed over because it's way more sensational to do so is the fact the the people who were NOT voted in are trying to weasel their way into power to do what the voters do NOT want them to do. IE: try to spend the Country's way out of debt. Try doing that at home and see where it gets you.


concern
said

Harper tried to suffocate the democracy he should resign and let other conservative leaders to take the helm.


Kelly O from Medicine Hat Ab
said

So much for democracy. We didn't vote in the losers that the other parties had for a reason. Not one of them have what it takes to govern this country.
Harper is trying to show that the government is willing to do what it takes to get us on track but the opposition would rather bury Canada in debt. If the opposition parties cant get their own funding then they shouldnt be in existence. Why should the Canadian people be paying rich people to run for politics? If they want to run they can pay their own way. Keep u the good work Harper. If the opposition pulls this crap they will hear all about it in the next election. They have lost my vote forever.


JP
said

Yes
He made a Bad decision-
He called an election that was NOT needed, he woudl not allow parliment to function so he called an election -
He got a minority because people could not trust him.
One week he says that all parties should work togther then next week he act like a Ruler-
No he and his puppets will hav e to pay the price


Jim in the West
said

Ahh.. The truth is finally coming out. I love it.

Harper's obsession with the destruction of the Liberal party may well have cost him the support of his own. We didn't elect him to serve his own agenda. We elected him to serve the country.


Ian Barr
said

Even if it was concocted before the Fiscal Update, Harper still gave them all the ammuniton they needed by trying to use an economic crisis to pass through ideology. I thought he was politically smarter than that. Dumb move.

That said, the fact that the coalition has to rely on the support of the Bloc gives the GG a viable excuse to allow Harper to prorogue Parliament until he can get a proper fiscal act together... Interesting times.


les McLeod
said

Minority government means more people voted against you than for you.Harper and the conservatives forgot that. Go coalition ,go!


Jonathan
said

Harper's judgement does not enter into this. The opposition parties were clearly looking for any pretext to grab power. They were never interested in working with the near-majority party.

Good luck, I say, to Dion and his cabal. I'm mad as hell about their antics, and when they've screwed over our country I hope the majority of Canadians will be too.


Jack Yellin
said

The first past the post system got us 143 Tories with 37.6% of the vote. If they don't have the confidence of the house, which, in this case, represents about 65% of the vote, then our system of government allows for the G-G to ask the other parties to gain the confidence of the House. Until there is constitutional change to this (and good luck getting it), for direct elections of the PM, this is how the game is played.


Buba
said

He has no one to blame but himself. The Liberals bent over backwards to avoid a similar boondoggle before the election which Harper called. He continued his bullying tactics and his bluff was called.
Like most bullies, if you face them down they blink and he did.
It's time the CPC got a leader who is ready to work within the framework of Parliament and not act like a martinet.


Tara in Toronto
said

I do believe this coalition was formed because of the pledge to withdraw publlic funding (the main income source for the Liberals, NDP, and Bloc). Like most people the politicians reacted quickly and angrily when threatened financially.


Kim
said

I am disgusted by anyone who thinks this coalition is a good idea! How can the Libs, NDP and the Bloc be so greedy?!? Why should the taxpayer be paying for their parties! Why don't they work TOGETHER instead of trying to tear this country apart!
I THOUGHT we were a democratic country! My Prime Minister is Harper. Even though I didn't vote for him, (although now I wish I had!) I support him and think that if the PEOPLE want him out, then we should have another election.


terry salmon arm, bc
said

Bet this wasn't what Dany Williams wanted when he promoted "ABC"? Next election, is it going to be "Anything but Coalition?" Got to love/hate Cdn politics.


PM
said

Harper doesn't understand the term minority. He should resign and let some fresh blood run the conservative party.


DSmith
said

I know that to say this is evil in Canada, but I am a Conservative supporter, I will come out of the closet. If you think you have seen their entire plan you are most likely mistaken. I may be wrong, but let the cards unfold and perhaps you will see that the Prime Minister did what he did for a reason and come January we will know that reason.
Lets be realistic, the NDP holding cabinet positions??? Are we in a Doctor Seuss story?:)


brenda
said

Harper was trying to do something constructive for the people of this country, something that the Liberals know nothing about. The opposition has had this in the works for awhile, like snakes in the grass just waiting for any excuse to strike. Liberals have always felt it was their God given right to rule. I call this TREASON! I really don't care what Harper has to do to stop them, but stop them he must!


G-RANT
said

Let's get real here. Harper wanted to cut-back funding to the other parties to cripple them, not save taxpayer money due to the economic situation. Yes, the Conservatives would take a $10 million hit in funding, but the majority of their fundraising comes from private donations. I don't necessarily agree with the creation of a coalition government, but I also don't agree with eliminating the opposition using financial means. Reality check: the Conservatives DON'T have a majority government and I wish they would stop acting like they do. Harper got cocky and now the Conservatives are going to pay as a result.


Bye Steve!
said

I don't understand how SOME people keep on saying that Canada voted for Steve Harper. 34% (I think) of Canadians voted for the Conservatives. Please. This new government will be better due to a lot more checks and balances. The LIBs, NDP, and BLOC will do fine for ALL of Canada!


C. Viens
said

As a senior I am totaly shocked by what is happening in our governement. Mr. Harper was elected not Mr. Dion or Mr. Layton. You are acting like children that have been denied your desert. I am ashame of your behavior I thought I lived in a free & democratic country. I guess I was wrong. Give them a chance to bring in the budget you might be surprised what could be on your kitchen table Mr. Layton.


jimmy - ottawa
said

Definitely an error in judgement that will cost him his job. A minority government is just that, and his attempts to steam-roll the opposition should put him on the unemployment line.


Bill Kure
said

Taking tax payers money out of the political trough is not an error. Prime Minister Harper, please keep up the good work for the people of Canada. This coalition must not succeed to power for the sake of Canad



Rob Pirie
said

I think Steven Harper has to decide if he is a statesman or a smuck. His speech in Peru brought tears of pride to my eyes. His attack on the Canadian fabric of political funding and right to vote and equality of pay is an abuse of his power.

But, the coalition is scary, over reaction and not my idea of how to govern for the people.

I also don't think Jim Flaherty has been properly treated by the opposition. He has afterall kept us out of a recession so far amid the disaters around us and he has taken bold plans way before the finest mids in the world had reacted. He still can add value to our situation as long as we do not erode our fabric.

I think the coalition is a disgrace and an abuse of power. I don't trust any of them to do the right thing and it's not what me, friends or family want. We want government to work or take a hike and let adults take over.


Dan
said

I would rather trust a coalition of parties looking towards a solution to the economic problems of the Country than a party who's first act is to take away people's freedoms, financially damage all the opposition parties and then sit on their hands hoping the 'market will correct itself' and the problem will go away. Conservatives cannot help but be who they are- we need constructive leadership now.
Dan- Calgary


Kim from Burlington, Ontario
said

It all comes down to arrogance. This, at a time when our country needs "unity" and co-operation, our elected officials play politics. If I could have voted for NONE OF THE ABOVE, I would have. I am left to wonder how many others out there felt the same way? It's time Canadians became vocal. Our politicians are using tax payer dollars for their own personal manipulation & gain. At the end of the day, we pay their salaries & their pensions, often at times when many of us are losing such luxuries.
Speak up! Call your MP or send them an e-mail. To sit back, and do nothing in silence, merely condones their reckless behaviour at our expense!


dave calgary
said

Harper obviously blundered by being less than respectful towards the opposion. However, to attempt to overthrow a legitimately elected governement through a coalition with separatists is dispicable, unbelievable, and unCanadian.


Les - Toronto
said

I'm not a Dion fan in particular, and for that reason I held my nose and voted Conservative last election. However, Harper has surrendered to his baser instincts when he tried to stifle effective opposition with little lead time under the guise of an "economic statement" delivered by Flaherty. Frankly, Harper & Flaherty & Giorno should all shoulder the blame - it was a very illconsidered move to back the other parties into a corner without the muscle to make it stick.


Jim-Surrey
said

The opposition parties should find their own funding they should not rely on tax payer dollars in the first place as they were not voted in to govern.
Kudos Mr Harper it is just too bad the sore losers are not man enough to deal with it or realize the cuts need to happen. After all you did it to your own party as well they just were not financially sound


Marcel
said

The PM is only one to blame. If he had consulted his own caucus and the opposition parties, instead of playing hardball he would not be in this mess. Mr. Harper must do the only honourable thing that remains and that is to resign.


Robert Kamala
said

It's craziness, spending our money in this foolish expedition. If it goes to a vote Harper will win again. Who wants the Bloc to have any say how the west is dealt with? How much do you think it's going to cost us taxpayers for another election when we just finished one? Don't we have other considerations to think about in these times? Damn Right we do.


Jason From Woodstock, ON
said

I will not recognize a Liberal / NDP coalition government. Even if it is legal, in my eyes it is not a legitimate way to gain power. The opposition talks about losing confidence in the government, incidently, I do not have confidence in Dion to lead our fantastic country! He is not a Prime Minister caliber leader. I sure hope that Harper can pull himself out of this hot water!


James in New Brunswick
said

Okay. Yeah, the CPC as the governing party probably should have prepared the public with the idea that "we need to tighten our belts and we'll start with the Federal politicians and political parties: no pay raise and no increase in funding for political parties." But they didn't. They just blurted it all out and it sounded like they were out to eliminate the opposition parties. In truth, elimination of public funding for political parties makes sense to me but, unfortunately, Canadians aren't really big on contributing to political parties. Strange to say, membership in political parties and contributing is probably a better way of exercising your democratic rights than voting! It is certainly more effective.

As it is, Dion has been "selected" to head this coalition because he is completely expendable. If this blows up in their faces, its all Dion's fault.

I can't wait to see what Rick Mercer makes of this all!


Ian Ottawa
said

This plan was in the works no matter what the Conservatives did. Talk about agenda's. The Liberal Party of Profit wrote the book by P.E.Trudeau and had a few editions by Jean Chretein. The Devil's Trio are in bed on this and Justin Trudeau is the offspring.


duck
said

Many of the comments say we voted a conservative government in. I think we voted a group of people to represent us in parliament. If a leader with a minority wants to govern like he has a majority he needs to be prepared to fall. The Canadian public voted for a minority---- That meens to give and take a little. Harper is not capable of that concept so goodbye.


Corey
said

Nothing says democracy like taking over a minority goverment that leads a sound financial institution. There is no point to take a giant bail out until the United States take action on the Auto Industry which has forced themselves into the situation they are in. They are our biggest trading partner, they feel a pinch we get knocked out. As for the conservatives taking the public funds, woops.


Jack Owen Sound ON
said

I believe that Mr. Harper is right on track when he says that any help to the auto industry should be done in co-ordination with what the Americans will be doing. Laid off auto workers who appear on TV blaming Harper for the loss of their jobs should be directing their anger at their fellow citizens who are choosing not to buy their cars. If the NDP/Liberal coalition throws a lot of money to support an industry that can't sell its products, it will be a total waste and we will saddle ourselves and our children with enormous debt.


Cambob
said

And what exactly did Harper do wrong? He cut Federal subsidies to federal parties, and he banned strikes by federal employees temporarily. He wants to sell of assets and he didn't promise Billions to the unions.
Obviously, Harper is insane!


Arlene
said

I think it is disgusting. Harper was the choice of the Canadian citizens. Dion lost fair and square and this is the only way her can gain power. It is a no wonder that Quebec itself is in the financial situation it is in. HARPER WAS THE CANADIAN PEOPLE CHOICE. I did not think we lived in a communist country where our vote was considered garbage and nul & void if the parties running didn;t like it. Shame on all of you!!!!!!!!!!


Rodney Kiddle Alberta
said

Harper is the only party leader that has shown me he has the best intrest of Canada in mind. Free enterprise should be just that free enterprise. Tax payers money should not support ( unions eg. NDP, political partys, auto makers,local manufacturers, etc.) They all spent there way into this economic crisis and should get themselves out. I would like to see a Canada wide vote on the currant dilema based on voting for just the Party leaders only and then it would be upto them to recruit their cabinet ministers from all intrested members of Canadaians qualified to serve in parliament.



Judy
said

HUGE ERROR OF JUDGEMENT - based on the fact he has a burning hatred of Liberals that was hatched with Trudeau so long ago. He was elected to run the country - based on a so-so run of the previous 2 years...bingo - out comes his bully alter ego, and tries to destroy the opposition. He is from a province that sees NO USE for the opposition, that fully supports a dictator - and wants to take his game to the big arena.


Arthur
said

It is unfortunate that Harper does not understand that in a minority it is necessary to work with the other parties. As long as he continued to ram through his ideology without working with the other parties, it was only a matter of time before this happened. Never before has a minority government made every vote a matter of confidence.


Nicole
said

Cut the public funding to parties. Our country is on its way to a recession I believe that money could be better spent on helping families go forward. The three amigos our not putting the people at their best interest they are just worried about their wallets and their own budget.


Ed harry
said

There is no way the bloc should ever get into parliment. Their main objective is to tear the country apart. The liberals and NDP will be helping them do this. If the Coalition takes over. i will never pay my taxes or vote again.


Howard
said

It appears to me that the only people for the coalition are the politicians behind it. This is nothing more than those who lost the election using our political system to effect a "coup d'etat". We should call another election so that the conservatives will actually be able to govern with a majority (which I think they would win), and move the Country forward.


Majority Coalition govt
said

Isn't it a good thing that everyone who voted for a party other than the Conservatives are now going to be running the country? Maybe now we can all get on the same page rather than the division we now see? "Cant we all just get along?"


Lynn
said

Canada did not vote for a coalition government. Did things change in Canada so much that these 3 guys telling us, a free speaking country, who is going to be our next PM. If they don't agree with what Mr. Harper is doing, then fine. As the citizens of a free country, we have ever right to stand up and cast our VOTE on WHO WE WANT AS OUR PRIME MINISTER. If that does not happen, dare I say it, the dreaded word...DICTATORSHIP. I just hope that as the voting population of Canada we just sit by and watch this happen. We did not vote for Mr. Dion and he is who we should not get.


Len
said

I don't believe Harper misjudged . . . I believe he played puppeteer and guess what, the puppets are dancing just like they are supposed to. Since when has over 70% of the country been of the same mind. Look at the public opinion polls . . . over 70% see through the shallow idiots who, in desparation, have formed this coalition. Look at the coalition - 50% loser, 17% wannabe, and 34% dedicated to the destruction of the country that pays them to govern. Only in Canada!


David in Ottawa
said

The conservatives can survive. All they have to do is fire Harper, then their new leader can signal an intention to work with the basis signed by the coalition.




Bob
said

Let's stop the finger pointing. We need to stop the leader's whose ideas were rejected from imposing those ideas on us. Just think, the key this mess are the separtists and their only interest is what's best for Quebec - not what's best for Canada. This coalition is therefore NOT BEST FOR CANADA and the GG needs to refuse to accept it.


Alex (Toronto)
said

If the Liberals had planned this at the outset, they simply had to vote against the throne speech. It's obvious that this is a response to the government's non-response to the economic crisis. Tax cuts just let the rich invest outside Canada. Tax increases didn't stop the US from growing in the 90s and tax cuts didn't help the US grow under Bush, Bush, and Reagan.

If we had maintained the Martin budget surpluses, the government could have maintained the social safety net, offered effective support to the financial sector, and put some real money into economic stimulus without going into deficit. Now we're going to have a deficit. Harper was clearly okay with that, but only when it was his deficit.

The Tories might want to find a leader who doesn't impose his anger management issues on the whole country. The purpose of the Progressive Conservative party had been to promote a conservative agenda without indulging the right-wing extremists. The new non-progressive Conservatives couldn't get a majority government against one of the least popular Liberal leaders in history. Compromise is a traditional Canadian political value, and Conservatives aren't going to see much time in government in future years if they don't move towards the centre.


Jake in Manitoba
said

As both a retired federal civil servant,and Conservative supporter,I am disgusted by the recent actions of the Conservative party. A party that seems to think so little of the electorate's intelligence, cannot predict a backlash, really calls into question their fitness to lead.


Holmesy
said

Isn't it a coincidence that these public funds are the same funds that has built up the Conservative coiffures to where they are today. Please people see through all the propaganda and buzz words that are being planted by conservative spokespeople. The Harper admin is nothing but a George W. Bush admin wrapped in a Canadian flag. Don't let the manipulation cloud your judgement. This is coming from a small "c" conservative. Harper's ego, thirst for power and his quest to destroy the Liberal party has come in the way of what is best for Canadians.
Remeber it is healthy to have strong opposition parties to keep governments in check. This coalition is not a bad thing. It is a cleansing of sorts so the Conservatives can find a more middle of the road leader.


Ken
said

I cannot believe that anyone outside of Quebec can actually say this is good for Canada and still look in the mirror. Your hate of free enterprise and lust for government handouts is overwhelming your common sense. How many more sweetheart deals must we give them? How much more Western Money will they be at the trough lapping up? You people really need to think of what it is you wish for, get a grip already.
If only Quebec had separated when we had the chance to get rid of them...OH IF ONLY


Tori
said

Having been backed into a corner and left no choice but to call an election I would not call that a bad choice.

Cutting taxpayer funding from political parties, a great idea but political suicide.

I sure hope he is a magician as well as an economist because he is in one hell of a bees nest and another election is the only way out.

Good luck Mr PM, you are going to need it.


Blake
said

The issue is that Harper cannot be trusted.


Keith in Brampton
said

I'm not convinced it was entirely a mistake on Harper's part; I think he thought he would get one of two outcomes:

a) the motion would pass and he'd have crippled his opposition financially; or

b) the government would be defeated and, with the Liberals still in disarray and essentially leaderless, and with the electorate (theoretically) angry at the opposition for forcing a second election so quickly, he'd get his majority.

He thought it was win/win; since he failed at option C when he was Opposition Leader, he just arrogantly assumed no one else would be able to pull it off either.

Judging by public reaction, if he can get the GG to agree to call another election, he may still get his majority (and God help us then!).

No matter what happens, it will certainly be a good lesson to us all on the more arcane elements of our parliamentary system...


Edwina
said

Harper is solely to blame, and I can't see why more Conservatives don't accept that and move to seek his resignation. He wasn't elected to make irrelevant and small-minded moves at a time of economic crisis. He has shown that his ideological motivations outweigh his sense of duty to Canadians. A tremendous loss of respect and trust in this man's judgement.


Ella
said

Keep on the good work Mr. Harper, there's no reason the taxpayers should pay for politicians funding. We just had an election less then 2 months ago and there might be another one? If we didn't have public funding in place now, the opposition would think twice about destroying the current government. Shame on them, in this time of economic crisis they have to stand together and not play dirty games. And Stephane Dion, we don't want your carbon tax, that's why we didn't vote for you!!!


Mike
said

This is a clear wake up call to the Canadian people. Our government is not functioning in any acceptable manner.SO how did we end up with a political crisis superseding an economic (or health ,armed forces) crisis. Part of the answer is the parties behind the politicians - they are incredibly small minded. Our parties are totally focused on one thing only ; WINNING AT ANY COST. To further that end they have given up on everything else including policies,morals and common sense. This political crisis is the result of small men with small ideas i.e. it's our own fault for not hiring better people on all sides and not controlling our political parties.


Frank in Huntsville
said

The attempt by the NDP and Liberals to hijack our government is a folly. These two parties do not have enough seats to defeat Harper and would need the help of the Bloc, who are not representative from sea to sea and are only looking at their own self-interest. If the government should fall, we MUST go to the polls.


Sharon Trusty, 5th generation Canadian
said

The people of Canada gave Mr. Harper an opportunity to work with the other parties in the best interests of Canada. He blew it big time! These are perilous times with no place for ideology.

The coalition forms the majority of house seats. May the majority rule with a saner head than the current minority goverment.


Chris, Edmonton
said

Excuse me, we did vote for a coalition. When you fail to elect a majority government you are always at risk of losing your spot. The majority of Canadians have spoken, just not the way it usually happens. If you don't like what's hapening you should have worked harder at securing a majority. But then again, that's hard to do when the majority of Canadians don't drink the conservative koolaid.


cal
said

Harper's cynical plan backfired - the reason for public funding of political parties is to limit influence-buying by corporations. We need those limits - without them, we just sell the country to the highest corporate bidder.


Chris M, Saskatoon
said

This is a total power grab by the other parties. Harper wants to cut spending to political parties is a good idea in these uncertain economic times. It's completely unnecessary to be funding them now. If Canada wanted the others to be in power we would have voted that way.


Horatio
said

Harper was bullying the opposition by saying, "If you do not agree, vote it down and lets have an election." Then he tried to crippled the oppositions by proposing a party cutback. The democratic process allows a coalition Government. It is very legit and must be respected. This is the only way to counteract a minority dictator. Canada could be in a minority government situation for the next fifty years. Lets give this coalition a chance to work things out. The voters will decide in the next election whether they should just support one of the major parties as a majority govt.


Gary R. ...Whitby
said

Harper..."an error in judgment"! He gives new meaning to faux-pas. What kind of political leader who has any sense of self worth attacks a lame duck's hindquarters in such a perilous time for our country? And all over funding opposition parties! Who advised him? Mike Harris?


Helen in Halifax, NS
said

Removing public funds from political parties(especially a separatist one) was a good idea.


James in Winnipeg by way of N.S.
said

Oh how quickly many of you forget! You slam Harper and the Conservatives for being Arrogant making mistakes (which I'm not disputing) but yet you've forgotten about the biggest mistake in modern history committed by the Liberals no even 4 years ago. Does the term sponsorship scandal ring a bell? And who can possibly forget the Liberal arrogance that it is their god given right to rule Canada for all time?

For those of you supporting this coalition, keep in mind that the party heading it is bankrupt and fractured, its primary supporter has never and will never have relevance in Canadian politics ... oh and lest we forget that nasty separatist party that I know you all hate so much when its convenient for you!

If a coalition government wants to take over, fine. That's constitutionally legitimate but NOT with the support of a party whose sole purpose is to tear this country apart!



Evan in Athabasca
said

I feel that we have to many parties in parliament, we only need 2, that way we can have a majority government that will work, or a minority gov that has to cooperate with the other party.

I feel that who ever feels that combined results should be weighed should give the head a shake..... nothing was discussed at all about a coalition government, so go to the polls, the ppl will definitely show up this time, majority seats in any one party rules....


Anita Edmonton
said

In 2004 Stephen Harper thought it was okay to form a coalition with the NDP and Bloc to bring down Paul Martin's government but I don't think that he really considered that the recipients of his bully tactics would rise up together to deal with him the same way. Sauce for the goose... He had no business telling the Canadian people that he was willing to work with the opposition in a collegial way to address the financial crises we are all facing and then do what he did. It wasn't just the party funding -- it was the guise of fiscal belt-tightening to take away rights to save $28M when he had just blown $300M taxpayer's money on an election he passed legislation to prevent. Our constitution gives the right to have a coalition government if the current government loses the faith of the MPs -- at least Stephane Dion has always done what he thought was in the best interests of Canada and I, for one would like to see him get the chance as part of this broad coalition to see if they can do the right thing. Besides, Harper made another mistake -- the Bloc is very much in support of women's rights -- another one of Harper's take away's (just like culture cost him in the last election and reduced Tory support in Quebec).


Howard (Waterloo)
said

Mr Harper's approach to the economic situation is bang on. The coalition is eager to put money into "our automotive industry". Is anyone aware that our automotive industry is nothing more than a production assembly arm of US Companies that are in trouble, and may not even be bailed out by their own Government? What's the value of our bailout if the parent companies fail? At least we should analyze their viability before wasting taxpayers money, which could be used for re-focusing of workers in that sector.


john macdonald
said

I wish people would really wake up and realize that if a coalition government is formed it is perfectly proper in parlimentary procedures. if the coalition has the support of the majority of the house , then is enjoys the confidence of the house and can govern as long as this coalition stays intact. end of story. not treasonous, illegal, power grab or anything else. it is the parlimentary way.


Steve B.
said

Do not for a minute think that the Cdn democracy is violated. The democracy that guaranties the ruling party with the most seats also guaranties any goverment body with the most seats in spite of the origin of the parties. In this case it is the coalition government.


Bewildered in Toronto
said

The Three Who Would Be just boated a marlin and now they are stabbing it with their spears - not realising they are putting holes in their own hulls.

As a simmering conspiracy-freak mentioned yesterday: "Harper dangled this one as bait to bring out the carnivores."

Even if that's not the case, it seems to have worked and the wannabes have been well and truely revealed for what they are.

Brett
said

Bob Rae on the election night hinted that a coalition may be formed and now it has. They started this process right after they lost.


Bob Radcliffe
said

Harper is the first Prime Minister that I have been proud of in his beliefs and dedication to Canada. He is such a breath of fresh air from the buffoons that were in power preceeding him. The silly three in opposition cannot stand a government that is governed by principles, so they have set out to remove him from power. If this coalition goes ahead, you will not see a red flag west of Manitoba.


CAK
said

I don't know how many times I can say this...A bunch of banded together losers does not a government make. Stealing the power with the likes of the Bloc supporting you is just embarassing. Dion will be the worst leader this country ever saw. The coalition doesn't care that Harper has taken the things that they object off the table, they just want to overthrow him and steal Parliament. I am one of those Public Servants that they are taking away the right to strike and I am saying "Good on ya, Harper".


Ross
said

Harper was trying to do the same thing he did before the election and the opposition finally called his bluff. Why should the majority of Canadians that did not vote for the Conservative’s not have their voice heard out of fear of another election? Harper made everything a confidence motion and forced the opposition to either vote with him, not vote at all or force an election. This is not the way a minority government is suppose to work. The opposition had every right the say enough was enough. Harper had a responsibility to work with the other parties to make parliament work and he decided to keep doing what he had been doing all along, bullying the opposition. And what the heck is he complaining about?? He was planning on doing the exact same thing to the Liberals, with the support of the Block! Let him explain the difference between what is happening now and what he was planning 4 years ago.

Voter’s elected a minority government, not a majority. The majority of elected officials will take control if the minority government can’t learn to play with others.

Craig from NS
said

When Harper took power, he had a conversation with (then) Premier Hamm of Nova Scotia on what he needed to do to function with a minority government. It seems to be working for us on this end of the country. Harper completely ignored that advice and he has gotten himself in to the situation that is before us. He has no one to blame but himself. It's time for the party to take him out.

I'm not happy that the coalition was formed, but I can understand it. Harper is the dictator here and like any dictator he has to be taken out in any way possible. At least it's done politically instead of what happens in some far away lands. Harper needs to go, so the conservatives can get someone in there that can actually govern.


Gil Hurtubise
said

Disgusting Behaviour!!

It's a sad situation when our constitution and parliamentary system allows losers (opposition parties) to hijack the National Government with the intent of burying us in debt and maintaining their party perks at the expense of taxpayers. Why do we have elections if a bunch of sore losers/disgruntled politicians can redefine the wishes of the majority of Canadians to suit themselves? The Opposition parties are behaving like a bunch of children instead of contributing positively to the stability of the country no matter what nice words they use to camouflage their actions. Absolutely disgusting!!!


Jake in Ontario
said

It will be a shame should we lose the greatest prime minister that Canada has ever seen.

Stephen Harper has reinstilled Canadian patriotism, made efforts to rebuild the military, and restored Canada's presence on the world stage.

This is now being lost to tyranny, greed, and socialist scheming. The Liberals and NDP are taking power by be-friending a party that is dedicated to the dissolution of Canada! This WILL strengthen the voices of separatists.

Canada will now brace for the weakest, most disgraceful PM in its history...Dion...not a leader.


Joan Van Den Bergh
said

While I have mixed feelings about the "coalition" taking over, not many people are talking about what started this whole sorry mess. Stephen Harper just couldn't resist taking another shot at the other parties in the House. He deliberately provoked them and basically challenged them to come at him. Well, they have called his bluff. He is the reason we are in this mess. He needs to go regardless of the outcome.

Wendy
said

Another election...bring it on. I would rather go to the polls again than see the three stooges in power. What an insult to the Canadian people. Do these three clowns really think that this is democracy. I don't recall seeing "coalition" on the ballot.

Joseph
said

we need a strong majority government, not a minority. The last election was an outright 330 million dollar joke with the lowest voter turnout ever which shows lack of confidence in the federal parties. The Democrats have been elected in the States and here, we need a strong government to work with the U.S. to stimulate our economies. A minority gov't cannot do that. So for that, I'm for a coalition. The U.S. just made history and now we are poised to do the same.


JW
said

This whole mess is founded on the basis that people seem displeased with Harper. yet, no one can name anything worth citing that he has done to make Canada worse off. We have come the through the credit crunch much better than other countries, our pace into recession is much slower, its not like we have increased unemployment, debt, and what not. All the issues raised by people who hate Harper are personality issues not leadership issues. get real, the real idiots here are the coalition leaders who want to waste 300 million of taxpayer dollars. They could have presented their plan within days of the election before dumping their leader. This is just a cheap or really expensive grab at power. Its also ill timed with the party not having a true leader while US power is getting ready to change hands. They get their act together and we mess up our machine. Most of you anti-Harper types can't fess up that he did a decent job.


ed
said

The conservative party is too concerned about their right wing message. If Harper had just stuck to economic issues and tried to work out a plan,he would have gained respect..but he could not resist dividing us again. He needs to sit out awhile and remember that all of us trust that the business at hand be dealt with...not picking on the weakest among us for political gain. He is nothing but a Mike Harris ,but from the West! Harper and his conservatives come across as bullies. Well the democratic system will have to deal wtih him...all this because of his inability to represent everyone. What a contrast to the President elect in the US who is trying to pull his country together. Here's to the coalition. Tine for Demcracy to stand up and push these bullies out. The majority of voters did not vote for the conservatives.


Catherine Morie Alberta
said

Harper Caught HA HA
Now all Canada can see the mean "little" man that thought he could pull another dirty trick on Canada. Now he is crying foul because the opposition have turned on him....Harper proved he cares more about himself and power than he does about the economy of Canada and about the people.Arrogance will get him nothing.


Gary Hale
said

Finally Harper has shown that he's not qualfied to lead Canada. Looks good on him the hypercrite that he is.


S Hurn
said

The solution to the current crisis lies with the Conservative party. If they replaced Harper with another Conservative member as the leader, it might just be enough to appease a majority of Canadians. This issue has inflamed Canadians and Canadians are attacking each other based on nationality, language, party choice and idealogies. I submit that Harper could resign within his own party and solve the crisis. It is time to put Canada first. It would be the honorable thing to do.

Tait ,Calgary
said

Harper likes playing the bully on the block role. This time it back-fired in his face. He hides from the press and canceled all press conferences once he got elected.Shame,shame !!!
Looks good on him !!!


Nicole
said

So in a recession when most families are tightening their belts, and the Conservatives try to do the same, i.e have political parties garner support from their supports and not the government teat(what a concept!!) he is a bully? I think that it's the left's hatred of Harper that got us in this mess. These are the same people who suffer from Bush derangement sydrome. As far as a bailout for the auto sector let's wait until we see what the US does before we commit. As far as the rest of the economy, guess that GDP GROWTH last quarter really shows how we're sliding faster than we thought.sarc/ All we heard was complaining if Harper went into deficit, and complaining he didn't spend enough. Stop, I'm getting dizzy from all the 180's the opposition keep throwing.


Norm in Calgary
said

The PC's are good at screwing themselves, anyone remember Joe Who (Clark)?


Mike from Canmore
said

Get rid of Harper and the Reform, err, Conservatives.

This is good news in the long run although the optics in the short term are bad.

Good for these leaders who are truly showing leadership.

People....remember.....more people voted AGAINST the Conservatives than those who voted FOR the Conservatives. Had there been only one party, Harper would never have become PM in the first place.


Pat_from_Mississauga
said

Made a mistake? Yes - he thought that 63% of Canadians would be intimidated by the 37% who voted for his party. As for the Bloc - it was HARPER who brought a motion to declare QUEBEC A NATION! Harper was in bed with the bloc. If he survives, Harper will still be in bed with the bloc.

Good riddance Stephen Harper!


don hoskins, ottawa
said

Now is the time to consider fixed election dates(3rd Sun in Oct?), following the US inauguration, every four years. When a bill is defeated in the house, it simply tells the govt, to redraft a proposal that will pass. Look what could be accomplished!

Chris
said

Having voted both Liberal and Conservative over the last 30 years, I cannot believe how arrogant or out of touch with the Canadian electorate the PM is. We all laughed at Joe Clark had his fumbles, this PM has made more mistakes and has been responsible for making this country (Which I served 29 years in the Cdn Forces Uniform) a laughing stock of the free world. The PM runs things like a dictatorship, muffling free speech from his ministers and passing legislation that blatantly serves him or the Conservatives. Joe Clark had a grasp on reality, not arrogance.


glenn shoebridge
said

We the people not 7 weeks ago elected a conservative minority government to run our great country.
Now the loser's are acting like children and throwing a temper tantrum because they can't have thing's there way.
It doesn't seem like they had any intention to try to get along with the Harper Goverment.
If this farce get's as far as the Governor General,i hope she refuses and call's for another election,so we the people can decide not these three stooges
If this get's as far


Johnny Smith
said

The only thing I find absurd is that the government spent millions of dollars for one election, now thats over, We elect Stephen Harper and we get nothing but lies!


RRor
said

To Blake
Re: Harper cannot be trusted
Show me good reason to trust Dion or the rest or this coalition. If the coalition didn't rely on a party whose raison d'etre is to seperate from the rest of Canada, I would fell alot better about it but I can't accept a government bent on destroying our country. How do you trust Dion in this instance? What has he given up in consessions to get Bloc support? I can't trust any of them Lib, NDP, Green and least of all the Bloc when they plot behind closed doors against the elected Government of Canada


bouncinjo
said

why does this guy have a biographer, who the hell is Harper. What has he done so people need to know his life, probably another scam to raise money for the next election!!!


Shay
said

People talking about treason?!? Wow, what a new low. These people must have lost sight in the fact that Harper's Conservatives only received 37% of the vote. In a minority situation if the Government loses the confidence of the House, they lose power. If the Opposition is able to come together to avoid an election, then they have the right to try it. And going back to destroying the country, Mr.Page who is an Independent Officer of Parliament said a lot of the reasons why we're in the financial mess we're in is because the Conservatives have added over 25 Billion dollars to the budget while cutting taxes.. good policies eh?

RRO
said

Did no one mention that he cut salaries for ALL MP's, that he cut funding for first class tickets and other things.
He was trying to show that the Government was willing to share some of the hardship associated with the current economic situation.

The Liberals and NDP want to throw money at the problem. We sough how that worked in Ontario.

This coallition won't work. It may gain power, but it will flounder and make the recession work. It will scare investors because of the uncertainty. In the end it will rip itself apart.

Frankly this reminds me all to much of the coalition of the willing.

Canadians voted against Stephen Dion, what right does he have to become Prime Minister of Canada. The NDP, have never governed federally because Canadians don't want them to. The Bloc Quebecois wants to rip this country apart. These three parties are going to lead this country through one of the worst financial crisis in a generation.

I say let them try, in two months we will have an election, and then Harper will be given a REAL majority.


gerry
said

If you shoot yourself in the foot enough times you'll eventualy bleed to death. He just did.

Stuart
said

The $1.95/VOTE was brought in to stop special interest group( ie big oil or Automaker)from running political parties. I guess Harper figured since he had the financial support, he woul try to bankrupt the other parties, so we had only the Conservatives left to run this country. Ask other countries who have only one political party to pick what they think? We need a country that has different political parties with different views or we might as well join Russia or any other communist country.
I would rather see a vote instead of a takeover. But in a typical conservative ploy, the drop the ball for the rest of Canada. What we need is our government to work through these trying times. Let's hope this get's sorted out soon.

Gilles Lebrun
said

It is very obvious that many writers do not know how our Canadian parliament works. I would even dare write that many have no notion of Canadian History and the Constitutional Act of 1867. It makes me cringe when I hear or read words such as : "jerry-rigged", "coup", "govern by the back-door", etc. Parliamentary rules and procedures permit coalitions between parties as long as the coalition has the confidence of the House of Commons.

Stop the whining and the griping and read up on how our parliamentary systems works!

Sam
said

The conservatives really screwed it up here. The current state of the Liberal party was the golden opportunity for them 2.5 years ago. It got them a minority government. It lasted that long because the Liberals were/are a mess. But like any party in power, they got greedy. Didn't want to earn it the old fashion way which is to earn the trust of the people. Called an election early breaking their own promise to take advantage of what they thought was a winning scenario. It didn't happen and they didn't learn. The economic update was a big game. A game to push the other parties to the brink. However you want to sugarcoat it, saving 30 million a year is peanuts when we're talking billions of dollars (12 billion surplus to 100 million). The economic crisis was the perfect opportunity for them to show their quality and earn some respect and trust. The Liberals weren't a threat with a leadership convention coming up. But when you push someone to the edge of survival, there is only one reasonable response; to counter attack. This coalition gov't isn't the answer to what Canada needs right now. Nor do we need a minority gov't that is consumed with political genocide.

RRO
said

Harper got a near Majority. He had 11 seats short. The Liberals have been handed there most crushing defeat in decades. The NDP have never been allowed to govern this country.

We are going to have an NDP Health Minister, I guarantee. They are going to want control over Health and one or two of the other major portfolios. They are going to drive a very socialist agenda, which most Liberals won't agree with, but for the sake of holding power they will agree.

The last election was Canadians voting against Stephan Dion, how can this man now become Prime Minister through such a unbelievable power grab.

Tyson AB
said

"So much for democracy" comments If you take away public funding for political parties, democracy starts eroding. If a party only gets funding from privite intersts, mainly from big bussiness, whos view are the gonna represent the majority or the 1% of the population who controls 99% of wealth you tell me?

Think outside the tube.
Everyone hates taxes , but you all love to drive.

Sean in New Orleans, Louisiana -Cannuck Transplant
said

Harper may be partially to blame, but so are the voters of every party. I have to say that this is exactly why the Parliamentary system in Canada is awesome. When things are clearly not working, the system fixes itself and sometimes swiftly. In this case, there was no real majority in Parliament, from the recent elections, Canadians as a whole said "we think we want Harper to be PM, but were not sure." Imagine what things would be like in the U.S. if they could have done something like this? Stephen Harper is not a bad PM, but power is not distributed well. The coalition could fall apart at anytime, triggering another election in any case. I really think Canadians should sit back and watch their elected leader(s) sort this out. Really when you think about how the Parliamentary system works, Canadians get what they want, in a way, but more immediately (nobody had a majority). In the end Canadians will win, because the system keeps itself more in tune with the will of the people.

The coalition is not doing anything illegal, by the way, they are working the system the way it was intended.


H. from Toronto
said

At least he realized AFTERWARDS that he made a mistake. But the most important lesson that Harper hasn't learned was - LISTEN, LISTEN TO EVERYBODY!

Be open minded, be modest like Mr. Obama - your neighbour. Take some notes from him. People like him becasue he really show that he cares, he listens, and he helps out - right away - not TWO MONTHS LATER - NOT NEXT YEAR!

We don't know whether the G.G. nor the Canadian people will give us another chance or not!

Learn a valuable lesson - think before you talk! Could you please SHOW US ALL THAT YOU REALLY CARES FOR THIS COUNTRY IN ACTION!


Unbelievable
said

Now this is Harper's fault? 3 parties that have nothing in common. One party has sour grapes over losing, one party this will be the closest it ever gets to forming part of a government, and one that has nothing to loose and wants to split the government if it ever gets into power (which is impossible since it does not have enough seats in the only province it runs candidates).
With the world economic upheaval, a coalition government is a good thing?? Wow! Let's look around at some third world countries and see how it is working for them.
Don't beleve me? What have the markets (driven by investors from all over the world) done since this idea has surfaced. The markets in Canada tanked!
Even outsiders are unimpressed.
Call an election to settle this! Oh gee, we just did this 2 months ago, and I guess that isn't good enough for the three parties. THey are only helping us poor dim whitted voters who must of voted in error.
Time to revamp our electorate and make it work as the voice of Canadian people!


RRO
said

If the NDP and Liberals can work together so easily and govern together, why not merge the parties into a single entity.

Oh wait, its because they disagree about as much as they disagree with Harper.

These parties have two different views on pretty much everything. Dion will try to push his green plan, a plan Layton hates.

Layton spent the election telling people that Dion was a weak leader who would be bad for Canada, now he is going to make him Prime Minister.

This coalition is already doomed. Its going to take the Liberal Party down with it.

Maybe a two party system is best. Conservative and Liberal both battling for the center.

As for campaing finances, why should my tax dollars support a party that I don't support. If I want to give money to a political party that should be my choice.


Tim Bunker from Halifax
said

What do people mean that these guys (the Coalition parties) weren't voting in? Seems to me I remember each of those leaders winning a seat each in parliament. I also seem to remember that each of those 3 parties won a certain amounts of seats in the House and when you tally up the total their seats together that equals a Majority. Everyone of the seats each of the 3 parties holds was elected by Canadians in those ridings.

So people, cut out this "we didn't elect them" bullcrap. You should read up on how our parliamentary system work.

Hey, I'm a Liberal voter, but I still care for it. But, I did help to elect my MP to parliament and in doing so I give his party the mandate to take part in this if they feel fit.


Rob
said

I disagree, I think Harper is pretty smart, probably the best political strategist Canada has ever seen. He saw this coming from a mile away and will use this to his advantage in due time. Just wait and see!

Michele
said

Unbelievable - all Harper can do is start up his attack ads again. I guess that's exactly what you would expect from a bully ... the only way they know how to respond. My what leadership qualities.


Rob
said

Pete, I'm a Conservative, and I'm not PO'd at Harper at all!

Jason
said

Removing public funds from party coffers is a terrible idea. When I vote the party I cast my ballot for gets money. It's very democratic and helps to support parties that don't get money from big business. Do we only want parties who tow the corporate line like the Conservatives in power? What about the average Canadian (the majority)? What about the environment? Will rich people be so quick to donate to the Green party?

Alex Kimmerly
said

"We'll see. We'll see - time will tell - but there does seem to be an attitude that they can govern as if they have a majority. And as I've told you I think Joe Clark taught us I think that's the wrong attitude to have in a minority Parliament." - Stephen Harper 2006

“I would certainly not want to find myself governing this economy today … under a situation where I was required to follow socialist economics and be at the behest of the veto of the separatists.” – Stephen Harper, Dec 2, 2008

He learned from Joe Clark what would happen if he abused his minority.

A) another election
B) a coalition which he could attack

Our Prime Minister, Mr. Harper cowardly chose not to lead this country into a time of crisis. He chose to use this as an opportunity to attempt a power-grab for a majority government.

e-medhat
said

To those of you that said that the Tories tried to the coalition thing four years ago need to understand that it didn't work then and it won't work now.

Patricia
said

Not surprisingly, Harper goofed big time. His arrogance and disdain for democracy took hold of him and like the good Reformer that he is, he tried to obliterate the opposition parties. From the time he first got elected, he has been taunting and baiting the opposition until finally they had enough and decided to lash back. The ferocity of the opposition attack is a result of a long string of bad treatment that parliament has received at his hands...the hands of a man who has a minority yet tries to rule like a dictator. Remember that his goal is to make the Conservatives the default ruling party in Canada. His timing of his inadequate financial update was cruel given that Canadians are worried about their economic futures and all he wanted to do was to play partisan politics. What a selfish, uncaring, unfeeling man...he may well win by proroguing parliament but there will be future days when Canadians see how truly vindictive and ideological he is. Instead of being very wary, many Canadians are currently siding with this man who will soon destroy the country I know and love. A pox on his head!


Brenda
said

Taking public funds from th party coffers is the Best Idea yet. This wasn't an error . This business of the losers trying to oust Harper is ridiculous The citizens of Canada have spoken with their vote. Harper won the election . The opposition parties trying to hook up and push him out is stupid.This is not a communist country where government is able to ignore the voice of the people. Dion for goodness sake, wasn't even favored by his part members , when they were wanting him to withdraw as leader! Who does he think he is?


Mike from Calgary
said

While I do not agree with all the actions of Mr. Harper, how can any reasonable (look it up in the dictionary if you don't know what it means) person really think that holding a non-confidence vote supported by a coalition of sworn "enemies" be a good idea! This coalition seems to be designed for the power hungery, NOT for those that are truely proud to be Canadian


Char
said

Hurray for coalition governments! Canada may be saved after all. Now good ideas will have a chance to come forward. 67% of the govt passing a bill that affects all of Canada is much better than 33%. Those of you who are against public funding of political parties are asking for an American system where only millionaires will be able to run for politics and where big business actually runs that country. And look at the mess they're in. At least our form of govt has checks and balances to better protect us. As to you nay sayers about a coalition including Quebec, I remember not too long ago, talk of western separation. How treasonous was that!

A. K.
said

To all of you who are complaining about the formation of the coalition - did you actually VOTE in the election?

Also, the formation of a coalition is legitimate and legal, when we have a minority government. It is a viable choice. Mr. Harper and his Conservatives are, and always have been, arrogant and dismissive in dealing with ordinary Candians and their problems. It is Stephen Harper, himself, who is the power monger - not the coalition.

Anthony
said

A coalition government has even more right to govern then a Conservative government does as they would represent a bigger proportion of the population, collectively they won a greater # of seats. This is not rocket science - it is certainly not a unfair power grab.

Randall
said

Harper needs to resign. You gambled, you lost. You lost, you lost, you lost. Let another Conservative take over the leadership and this will all disappear in a flash.


Jonathan-Winnipeg
said

If you have a concern one way or the other, CALL or EMAIL YOUR MP! That way, they may affirm or change their own perspective as they are elected to represent their constituents.


Joe
said

The mistake will be made if we let Harper continue as PM. He is the most Corrosive and divisive person ever to hold the office of PM. As a Maritimer and Canadian I am disgusted with the behaviour of the Conservative Party


John W.
said

This has nothing to do with what was done or not done, the Bloc and NDP even rejected the Thrown speech,

Wake up people no matter what would have been done, the opposition did not like that they have no chance to gain power because the country did not vote in majority for them.

Liberal all time low in support, Bloc separatist and does not care about Canada, NDP bitter about getting less seats then even the Bloc in some election, the Conservative could have had a stimulus package of 30 Billion and they would have said it was too much, it's politics and we the people just got punkd.



John Mavridis
said

Proroguing Parliament and spending millions of government dollars to defend himself in the public is a dishonorable way of dealing with the problem he created. He can prorogue and do nothing for a month, and then he can lose a vote of confidence.


Mike Edmonton
said

Harper should resign!


Craig Reddog of Cape Breton
said

If Mr. Harper had not created this crises people would not have known what the Lib's and NDP's were capable of.

Harper is pure Conservative and I'm sure he will step down as leader if he were asked.

Having said that, I think the CPC will have it's highest ratings ever when this is all over. The Lib's and NDP will be history. Who cares about the BLOC?


Adam S., Ottawa
said

Speculating on the demise of Prime Minister Harper is ridiculously premature and completely reactionary. This awful debacle on Parliament Hill is not over yet and we should all sit back and let the pieces fall into place. That said, it is sad that this little sideshow has overshadowed the will of the elecorate and that good governance and the concept of democratically elected leadership are in question. My opinion, and it is not a layman's, is that this deal existed prior to the call for an election and that the campaigns of the NDP and the Liberals were less than truthful and based on a murky pallet of lies and deceit. Remember the Liberals of old? Sponsorship scandal? HRDC scandal (we forgot about that one, didn't we?)? Well, the same old power brokers are at play here. Make no mistake about it; behind his spectacles and his aura of academic awkwardness lurks the soul of a politician whom suckled on the Liberal teet for a long, long time. Arrogance of power, a sense of entitlement and sleazy, slezy backroom deals continue to feed the veins that lead to the womb of the liberal sow, the very place in which Stefan Dion spent his formative years as a fledgling politician. Said Brian Mulroney of another issue of an era of yesteryear, "There's no whore like an old whore".
No, Mr. Harper is not through yet. But the integrity of Dion certainlly is.


j flesch
said

We, the people of Canada, voted in an election that it now appears the traitors of the liberals, ndp and block, do not wish to honor. if they believe they can illegally overthrow our government, then they should now be tried for treason. treason against our elected government and therefore, against the people.


Colin Blackburn
said

The Liberal-NDP-Blocheads coalition is disgraceful.

The leaders? of the Opposition give a whole new meaning and level to the word "bastards."


Jay, Ottawa
said

Wow! This discussion is so much different than the other ones. It seems much more balanced with what I'm hearing from people and less like the Conservative party is getting people to spread propaganda through online forums. Very refreshing and interesting!


Why is Harper still hanging around?
said

CTV News should send Harper a bulletin:

IT'S OVER




Hatprt has disrupted Parliament enough
said

with his political games.

Get out, Harper.

Parliament has work to do.




Defeat EasternCoalition
said

Who needs any of these jerks. Harper is incredibly arrogant and his opponents, the Eastern Coalition, will give the West the push it needs to separate from Canada. Vive le Ouest Libre!!!


GoToYourRoom.
said

Some state that 'Harper is the one to blame here.' Uhm, has anyone noticed that Harper cut freebie public funding from his own party, too? Blinders on? It seems he and his are the only ones not too lazy to raise their own cash from supporters. Considering that it looks as though these pirates were planning this BEFORE Harper even spoke, I would say that it looks to me that it's the three amigos who do not play well with others. They shouldn't be usurping Canadian voters, but rather should be in class detention for a week, and their parents should pull their allowance, IMHO.


Jordano
said

Thank the lord is all I can say, thank the lord! Jobs, everyones job is at stake here; and Harper doesnt care (his finance plan proves it) I love however how karma works. what goes around comes around Mr. Harper! Now you know how it feels to be over thrown!


Joe
said

Isn't it awesome to see the true power of motivated political groups? It's just too bad it's not for the benefit of Canada.


Nabila - Vancouver
said

A Liberal party that's been looking for a new leader to replace it's current disgraced leader, decides that said disgraced leader is fit enough to lead the country and concocts a deal with the NDP and the Bloc to topple the Conservative almost-majority government.

Yes it's legal constitutionally but seriously, MPs have more important things to deal with right now than a political crisis like..*sarcastic* hmmmm..Afghanistan, and oh-I-almost-forgot, THE ECONOMY


Jay, Ottawa
said

I'm really starting to believe my prediction that a minority government would lead to the Liberals and the Conservatives replacing their leaders in 2009 will come true. We know who the Liberals contenders are - but who are the Conservative heir apparents?


Kevin in Vic
said

This travisty was planned by the NDP and Liberals before the election. It just so happened that the Liberals got creamed so bad this time around that they had to pull in the BQ separatists in order to make it work. They were only biding their time as to when to pounce. The GG should make them call another election. Good luck NDP and Liberals this time around. It isn't just the Tories that have choked the Canadian public. This coalition has people who voted for them just as much up in arms by signing on the Block. Good luck making it work if the Block doesn't think it will work for Quebec


Rich
said

conservative/reform coalition.
Get the facts straight those of you that are saying the tories and reform did EXACTLY the same thing 4 years ago. Where is the Reform party now? A NEW party was formed then. What the liberals, ndp and bloc want is 3 seperate parties sharing power. That is NOT what Canada voted for in Oct.



HarpersGottaGo
said

BRING IT ON HARPER! I, for one, am looking forward to the Coalition ousting you out of Parliament!!


Robson
said

I'm going to say this I think stephen Harper is a good Prime Minister I like him. One of the better ones we've had. No he shouldn't have called an election but what are yah going to do...But Having this moron Stephane Dion run this country no thanks..I also believe they all need to grow up and stop acting like little boys in a locker room...


Pat from Calgary
said

Looks like the actions of the conservative party and the opposition parties have stirred up everyone. I hope everyone who is entitled to vote next election gets out there and exercises their right. Dont sit at home and not vote and then get excited about what ends up happening. Exercise your rights!!!


ken campbell
said

Dion cannot accept the fact he was defeated in a fair fight and seeeks to upset the result by uniting with apoliticalopportunist anda semi communistnplus and another union leader to replace a duly elected government . The Bloc leader has been granted power that goes beyond his dreams and sure as h. will use it. Harper is not error proof but he is head and shoulders above th pirates who would depose him.


Sharon
said

I think Harper did make an error in judgement by cutting funding to the parties at this time. But the Liberals, NDP and Bloc are also making an error that could cost them when an election is finally called. I don't think the Canadian people will forgive them for the turnmoil and instability they will create by forming a coalition government. They are only hurting the economy more and are not listening to Canadian's sentiments right now. It is truly a power gram. Sharon from Calgary


JD from Surrey, BC
said

The comments that note that a coalition is absolutely legal under the Canadian Constitution understand that this is not about voting for a coalition. We have a crisis situation. They have a perfect right & it is likely the most democratic of processes that we have in play right now. We have to hope the Gov Gen sees that as well. Harper is hoping to force an election so that once again, he can blame everyone else. This is the same man who announced a free trade agreement with Columbia - no discussion there. The same man who called an election twice because he refuses to work within a minority government. Harper doesnt want a minority government. He wants total domination. He was absolutely certain he would get that; that is why he called the election as he was counting on the Canadian public not to vote. He lost big time & so now he is out to make everyone else look like the bad guys. Interesting that so many people now decry this coalition attempt - didnt see Harper trying to work with his government. He hasnt been able to work with the other parties and doesnt choose to. This coalition would be up to public scrutiny; we cant say that for Harper & his group they speak the scripts they are given. Harper has made no effort whatsoever to protect or rebuild this country. His arrogance and distain for this country is reprehensible.


BC Wet Coaster
said

Is it just me or is Ottawa looking more and more like the Jerry Springer show?

Seriously, I feel like my money has been wasted. Time to bring back the Rhinoceros party.


Mark in LA
said

HAHA! Sure glad to see Harper get his comeuppance!

I've read the comments and it appears clear that those that voted Conservative see this as an 'evil' act on the part of the other parties.
However, they are simply doing what Canadian political laws allow.
Harper made a BIG mistake when he assumed he was in control and could do what he wanted with a minority government.
Democracy is not supposed to result in a minority controlling the country. At least the coalition parties received the support of over 50% of the electorate.
Good Riddance, Harper!!

(And a nice send-off for Dion after all his struggles...)


Becky
said

I hope Conservative supporters will not blame Harper too much for this parliamentary crisis. Perhaps he made an error, I'm not sure, but he is a strong leader, has unified the Right, kept the party controlled, increased its national credibility and increased the credibility of our nation. If he has made mistakes, I have every confidence he will learn from them. He is irreplaceable. The coalition would love nothing better than to have the Conservatives turn on Stephen Harper. Please don't.


Ken - Calgary
said

If Canada is extremely lucky, this is the END of Stephen Harper's political career. He cannot be trusted, and Canadians have shown him that three times now. I can't even believe he has managed to cling to the leadership. The Conservatives are obviously very short on leadership if they can't even find someone to replace a sad excuse for a leader like Harper.


John from Fredericton
said

If Harper quits politics and his leadership of the Conservative Party of Canada, then it will be a great day for Liberals and Conservatives alike.

I have no love for Stephen Harper and I will continue to vote Liberal while he sits as leader of the Conservative Party. Once he is gone, I will be a free agent in the political spectrum.


shane kearns
said

i wonder if president elect obama (or even john mcain) would consider leading our country, simply because i don't believe any of the current parties and their leaders are up to the challenge. it almost seems that over the last few years our politics have become a game...or a joke depending on which side of the fence you stand on.


Jim (MTL)
said

I think that Harper is within his rights to Prorogue Parliament. I guess that is what will happen. However I wonder if his caucus will let him lead them into the next election. If they do they will undoubtedly gift the government back to Iggy. I think Canadians have given him two chances already to show he is a statesman. I doubt they will give him a third.


KC
said

We voted for the MP...not the Prime Minister. Although that is what the Consevatives would like us believe.

We are not the USA and we do not vote for a leader.

The group with the most seats gets to select the Prime Minister.... Harper does not seem to get it.

Those who are upset and call this undemocratic and a coup, must think we live in the US. This is Canada, deal with it, Harper made a boo-boo and now the Conservatives are toast.

They will have to wait until the coalition falls apart and then try to win the next election. (Hopefully without Harper)

KC from Calgary


Found Sound
said

Good thing is we all know what one element of Mr. Harper's secret "majority" agenda items was: eliminating opposition financing. Makes you wonder what other secret items he was planning to push through parliament. Now he has to go because he's tipped his hand, and there's no possibility he can regain the confidence of the house, or the confidence of the people.


Sean Dawson
said

Harper just can't help himself. He's mean spirited and is consumed with power. As far as the $1.97 per vote, I don't mind paying that if it means we can have politcal parties in opposition. Mr. Harper is dangerous. I hope this is his "Waterloo"


Richard - New Brunswick
said

Calling an election after constant attempts from the liberals to "threaten" to take down gov't was the call that should have happened.. yes it was short between the last election, but when you have opposition more concentrated on bringing down gov't then to run the country. I see no other options. Harper was voted in. Correct?. Now its a Coup based on "what is good for the country" i think not. This attempt is politics at its worst. Bad BAD BADD. I am ashamed that I may have to be govern'd by three men who have no right to lead. Beaten men. The Bloc shouldn't even be in this. Doesn't anyone find it strange that a Federal election is debated by a debator who is speaking for one province? He should be debating with the provincal Government only. Out with the Bloc on a Federal level. This is a political loop hole. Thats it. Keep this Gov't in. Harper all the way. After all HE WON, let him govern. Say no to this attempt to Coup.


Metro
said

Harper called an election early--breaking his own law--in order to shut down Parliamentary investigations into the "In-and-Out" scandal and the Cadman Affair.

Having gained a mere five seats at a cost of roughly $60 million each, he then tried to gut a campaign finance law his party helped make necessary, and was astounded when the people a majority of Canadians voted for turned around and bit him in the ass.

Now he's standing there gulping like a fish and wondering when the sheep started to bite.

Couldn't happen to a nicer guy.

Here's to Canadian Parliamentary democracy!


Tom, Newmarket, ON
said

It is lamentable that it has come to this, but Harper Conservatives did this to themselves. What happened to all that post-election talk about "compromise" and working with the opposition?

Harper has made it clear he doesn't know how to make a minority government work. A coalition is hardly an ideal situation, but it'll get the bully out of 24 Sussex.


L in Sask
said

This is unbelievable! Less people voted liberal and NDP combined than for the conservative party. I really don't think the people voting liberal and NDP would have wanted their party to be involved with the Bloc.
If you want the economy to tank ,support this coalition because Dion and Layton will do a great job of it. Their only solution is to panic and tell people to stop spending money.


Hap Stokes
said

With 4 major parties and a 5th on the way, it will likely always be a 'Minority Gov' until the Cows come home in our country.--So what is wrong with that?

I DID NOT vote for Mr Dion to be my PM. Nor did the vast majority because he only had 26%, while Mr Harper who I did vote for has 37%. Seems those easterners have trouble with math. Do you really think 37 is lesser than 26?


Kris
said

I wonder how many of those who are complaining actually took the time to vote in the recent election? Who said representation by population was fair to the diversity of the various regions of Canada?

As it stands, the majority of the voters DIDN'T vote for the Conservatives. So when the majority can agree upon something, that is actually a small miracle!




Andrew - 8th Generation Canadian
said

On the basis that a generation is 40 years.

The liberal media has been subtly suggesting Baird for years. I do not accept it. It will not be easy to find another Conservative who can lead the party. Better stick with Harper for now.




stuart douglass
said

This was not an error in judgment. An effective opposition is democracy. The attempt to permanently cripple the opposition parties by removing public funding is profoundly undemocratic and extremely frightening for our democratic future. The party donation limit is $1000 for corporations and unions, and $10,000 for individuals. This is why public funding is provided. With no way to raise anywhere near the amount of monies needed to run election campaigns or to fund research while in opposition, this measure would make any party in power hugely powerful and create a systemic disadvantage to all other parties in the opposition ranks.
The future of effective democracy in this country depends on the removal of Steven Harper as a political entity. If Steven Harper is allowed to remain and simply shelves his antidemocratic plan, then it is only a matter of time before he actually cripples democracy. The Prime Minister of Canada has a profound duty to protect and foster democracy in this country. It should be against the law (as a conflict of interest) to allow a governing party to threaten the very survival of the opposing parties.
Any governing party already has an inherent advantage right up until an election campaign is called; the cabinet ministers have large numbers of staff, they get to fly free of charge on government jets, have the civil service working on their behalf, paid announcements on their initiatives etc.
This was not an error of judgment, this was an attempt at creating a one party state and no matter who you have voted for, this is a much bigger issue for the future of this great country. Stephen Harper must be taken out of politics for this outrage.


M M B Ont
said

I am not sure how anyone can say that the Coalition will consist of the 3 Parties and that the Opposition has the majority of votes when the Bloc does not represent ALL of Canada. They are a Party unto themselves and no other Canadians were allowed to vote for them except those living in Quebec?
I know this won't get printed because none of my other dozen or so comments ever reached print, but I keep trying!



Charles
said

It's not as black and white as some on here think. The oppostion parties obviously planned this far ahead of the economic update but Stephen Harper gave them the opportunity and got sucker punched. But they shouldn't be allowed to get away with what they are doing. Harper has had a sharp lesson here on minority government...learn to think on your feet.
Now, the best thing for the country is to prorogue parliament until the budget, and make the opposition produce their plan, costed, and with a date when they will put it in place, because the devil is in the details here. Note, they admit they can't cost it or even say when it will be put in place-what if it takes longer than the government's plan to
activate, then the whole justification for bringing down the government goes out the window.


Don London
said

Right now Stephan Harper is the only honourable federal political leader. He has shown great leadership guiding the economy with a steady hand and a lot of insight.He should stay on and fight for Canada.


Dave
said

What people need to realize is that these are not people who we didn't "vote into power". I'm tired of reading that phrase. Here in Canada, we elect an indivudal MP, not the Prime Minister. The Prime Minister is a position that can be changed without an election, it's plain and simple. There is no changing of the seats, no changing of MP's, just a changing of who is formally in charge of the country, because the people we elected to represent us have lost faith in the party that was leading us. It is our democracy working at it's finest.


wreck76
said

Harper is in the best position he could ever be. One of two things are going to happen,

#1)the coalition fails and his economic plan goes through. Then we have a still stable economy and he can see what has to be done about it when the bottom hits.
#2) the stooges take power. How long do you think that will last? 18 months, i doubt it. so an election will be called and these three parties are going to get hurt for sending us to the polls again and putting us in huge debt. Harper gets a majority
Harper's only mistake in the last election was thinking taht the french vote was stable. Quebec cost him the majority, and i don't think that will happen again.


it's about time
said

bottom line Harper tried to rule as a majority government before the election. the Liberals bowed to them to avoid an election. the PC's called one anyways with pretty much the same thing a minority. he again tried to rule as a majority, but was called on it. now he is calling the others un willing partners in the commons. these 3 parties have been able to put there differences aside to form a coalition to run the country like the PC's should have done to begin with.


K D
said

Whether the whiney Conservatives like it or not, the majority of Canadians voted for people OTHER than Conservatives. Therefore, an agreement of these parties to co-operate DOES reflect the will of Canadians. Like Harper, it seems that the CON supporters think that just because their party won the election, that it reflects the will of all Canadians. I have news for you - the majority of Canada wants Harper GONE. Now, with this coalition, we will finally have representation that actually reflects the will of the majority of Canadians and the House of Commons. Now please, Con supporters, quit your whining. If you dislike the Constitution and this country so much, MOVE.


wayne
said

Blake
The issue is that Harper cannot be trusted.
-----------------------------OH COME on!!
Seems there was a time when those scoundrel libs were arse deep into billion dollar gun license scams..Harper is the only Prime.M who IS doing what they SAID!Remeber crutch-ian with his GST removal scam?

ANYthing that has ties or roots with Liberals is a sham.This latest fiascal is NOTHING more than sandbox mindsets broadcasting on the world stage amid a slippery finacial slope just how dopey this coalition of..boys?
This is N-O-T acceptable
how these 3 stooges can disrupt a perfectly fuctioning country based upon poor sportsmanship in losing a completely legal election that has NOW passed!

If the people are the Government of a democratic country,where was i when this hasty coaltion decision was made..does my vote actually count for anything? I did vote Harper,now dammit deliver!


Sam
said

This is all about power nothing else, even if he got the minority he's still the Prime Minister.


Eliz
said

There is nothing wrong with what Harper did, and there is nothing wrong with him. Opposition for a few weeks, I think he can handle that. He’ll come back with a large majority.


wilbil
said

If I want to be sure my vote will be supported next time around?
I'll be voting for the Separatists.


Mark/Oshawa
said

What is transpiring is treason and a power grabbing coup. The democracy of Canada has been hijacked by two socialist communists (Liberals and NDP) and a seperatist who wants to tear this country apart. The elected prime minister of this country isn't going anywhere. He will fight for all Canadians for Democracy, the economy in January via a throne speech, budget with a substantial stimulus package.

Dion was soundly rejected by Canadians and his own party is ejecting him and now you see his far left wing socialist attempt to seize power via coup.

The GG if it comes down to it must call an election in our democratic Canada to let the people decide who shall govern us.


juli
said

harper well never agreed with other party because he whant grab power. and i am happy what other party did


Rob Ennor
said

I wonder if the Opposition would consider another option - if the PM were to step down and a more moderate/less partisan Tory took his place, would the Opposition accept that as a change of course? It would likely take more commitments as well but it could be an option.

Any thoughts?

In my view, Harper is now done. Regardless of whether people are for or against a coalition, the PM has made it clear that he has no understanding of what people expect of him. He can join John and Joe and Paul and Kim as a panelist on "Canada's Next Prime Minister"




Jaslyn
said

The point many seem to miss is that we just voted less than 2 months ago... while it resulted in another minority government, it was a minority CONSERVATIVE government. NOT NDP, and NOT Liberals! and certainly NOT Blocs!

This back-room conspiracy is disgusting at best. What an embarrasment to Canada hence this coalition go force, it's embarrasing enough it's even brought up... and over what? Because Harper was doing the RIGHT thing by pulling the free funding of the political parties?

How many of us are even aware the percentage of our paid income taxes that goto party funding, without a receipt to use as writeoffs?
That's crap in itself and parties SHOULD have to do their own fundraising, and supply a receipt to their donaters.

Take away their candy and chocolate and this is what happens.

And Pete... it's DION who's hated by his own party... geesh.


Mr. Dee
said

Harper has badly misjudged. His instincts are those of Nixon, Bush, Cheney and Rove


KEN
said

WOW, SOME RESPONSES...Lets me get my view in here then..Harper created his own mess by backing the other parties into a corner, the economy needs a boost sooner rather than later, fine. Ask yourselves this..Where does conservative funding mainly come from..answer BUSINESS. Where does the funding for the other parties come from.. answer...ordinary people. Now , if Harper was successful in bankrupting all other parties ...Who runs the country..NOT THE ORDINARY PEOPLE.

The money he wants to cut is there to help the parties that need help so the people have a say, otherwise the corporations will be running our country. We are in a recession people, Big business are the only ones who have the money to support a party..Can you afford to support your party? I think Harper timed this perfectly. Get rid of the competition.


dj
said

Canada is well-known to be beautiful, clean and peaceful country ---these are some of the reasons why I immigrated here.
I got tired of the politics in my mother country (Asia) but just like anywhere else, politicians are WHINERS and disgusting. Why can't they give the current government a chance to govern and finish their job/term?
We just had our unplanned election 6 weeks ago, not to mention the wasted time & money, to accommodate these whiners ---and the people have spoken by electing PM Harper again.
Clearly, they lost in the election...so it's common sense, the majority don't support their agenda/flatform. Why is it so hard for them to understand that.
Instead, focus on the real issues --if they really want to serve our people & country. Find solutions to our alarming CRIME now-a-days due to gangs & drugs, homelessness and many more.
Please RESPECT the people's decision and wait for your turn. Afterall, we teach our kids to take turns, right?


Harper did it to himself
said

It's time for Harper to hit the road! As Con leader, he tried twice and failed twice to win the confidence of the majority of Canadian voters, and ended up in the position of minority rule. As the leader of a twice-minority government, Harper has set the party up for this type of coalition takeover. Harper and the Cons need to stop whining, face reality, and use their last few days in power to focus on the business of governing the country rather than taking out ads trying to convince Canadians that they have somehow been wronged. Maybe the Cons will finally take the hint that Harper is dead weight and use this as an opportunity to revamp their party.


Bruce
said

Who wants a stupid coalition? No one voted for it and we didn't vote for the Fiberals and the No Don't Pass party either.

If we have a government that is in essence ruled by the Bloc, we are in HUGE trouble.

I mean it....BIG trouble. We will be no better than Italy or France with all their coalition parties that come and go ad nauseum.


Jamie BC
said

I agree with Chris. I hope we do get a chance to vote on this. I don't know a lot about politics, but I thought because the Tories didn't have the majority of seats, they would be unable to make any decisions with out it being agreed upon. Things don't just happen over night. If we keep changing power of government how is anything suposed to get resolved in this country.


KM
said

The cons need to step down. Especially Harper...I haven't seen him do one good deed for us East coasters...Oh right, because we didn't vote for him. He never made a mistake, all of his actions are intentional. Go Coalition!


Greg
said

Hindsight is 20/20 and I expect the PM would like to redo the last week, however, the coalition is not a stable option. Any time the PQ like a coalition, and see an opportunity to get their hand son the public purse, then you've got to give it another look. Mr. Dion and Mr. Layton will pay at the ballot box for their obvious blind ambition. We don't have to like the PM, but he is doing a good job.


E. L. Donaldson
said

REgardless of what happened, Harper ahd lost control and respect by placing the country in such a serious mess. HE needs to go back to the oppoistion seat for a while to learn some humility abd ti reflect about the role of a loyal opposition. Politics is more than bullying, tactics adn strategy - it is about the moral fibre of our nation.


Peter Burgess
said

Peter from Edmonton

JayRoc says:
'The hypocrisy of the Tories for decrying the coalition is shocking, given that they tried to do the EXACT same thing just 4 years ago."

And what was the difference here jayRoc? Oh that's right...it was against Martin who didn't get voted in but rather had the PM position *given* to him after a disgraced Cretchien handed it to him on his way out.

Why not actually learn the story behingd the talking points instead of just regurgitating them.


Gwen Burns, Oromocto, NB
said

How many times must we the public have to deal with broken promises? Can't the PM keep his word on anything?


janet b
said

This is ludicrous. The east has been leaching off of Western Canada too long. If this happens it's time we take a serious look @ Seperating! This coalition is a joke. The deciding vote (Bloc Quebecois) is not a national party....they are a separatist party, how can this be good for Canada!



Elaine
said

I have little faith in democracy right now. I also think that this issue is going to leave bad feeling between the east and west. Instead of pulling together when times get rough we are fighting like greedy children. Bloc Quebecois Leader Duceppe said that his party is ready to support the coalition because the Conservatives chose partisan games based on ideological beliefs instead of considering the interests of Quebecers and Canadians. Are Quebecers not Canadians? What game are they playing and are they playing fair?


AMG - BC
said

to Helen in Halifax, NS
"Removing public funds from political parties(especially a separatist one) was a good idea".

You'd prefer then that they got their funding/kickbacks, similar to the CPC, from corporate sponsors who historically back the party who they believe will win.


Laureane Lukawesky
said

If it is allowed it would be the most disastrous event that ever will have taken place Canadian history. This is nothing short of bullying their way into Ottawa not unlike the typical schoolyard bully and sore losers in a game won fair and square. If we wanted them wouldn't they have won the last election? This is not what Canada wants but those people don't care what the people of Canada want they are just out for themselves. It's all about the money in their pockets and to their parties.


Don in BC
said

Make your voice heard. Send an email to the Governor General as to whether you agree and disagree with what's going on. Personally I think she should require an election for early February, which would give them (conservatives and liberals) time elect new leaders.


dj
said

Harper is as arrogant as they come. I'm not crazy about the opposition strategy but someone needs to confront the Tory stupidity - apparently using comparable tactics. Everything I read tells me that Harper has the same arrogant tunnel vision that Bush had. His time is ending.


Delcourt
said

The Liberals have no mandate to cut a deal with the NDP. And the Liberals certainly do not have a mandate to cut a deal with the separatists who want to destroy our country. This backroom deal is so unprecedented and so undemocratic that Canadians must have their say.

This is Canada. The privilege to govern must be earned, not taken. We cannot let this happen. It'sa scandal! When an election occurs - and it must - the Conservative Party will have to wage the fight of its life.We now know we are no longer competing just with the Official Opposition. We are competing against a coordinated campaign between Liberals, socialists and separatists to impose their agenda on Canadians. Canadian citizens cannot fall in this trap!

Thanks you to give me the opportunity to share in public my opinion.
Olivier Delcourt.



Mark
said

Hey "JayRoc". First of all, Harper didn't do the same thing 4 years ago. He presented a letter to the GG outlining 4 options she had should the gov't fail, and that she should excersize her rights. He NEVER forced a "hand-out" socialist and "Canada hating" coalition on a newly ELECTED gov't.


Andy
said

My goodness folks read up parliamentary democracies, before joining the fray of the un-informed. Your pleasure or displeasure is not relevant, it is a rule of law, not something that Harper or the coalition can dream up to suit themselves. A gamble was made and lost.


AS001
said

I voted NDP and I am glad they are teaming with the Liberals to get the Conservatives out of the house! They lean too far to the right for my liking! Even if Dion becomes PM (not the best situation), it going to the left!


Sad Canadian
said

I am very afraid for Canada. If this group of buffoons is successful in hijacking our government, the debt we need to be eliminating will spiral even further out of control, something we will never recover from.

One needs to hope that they don't try to walk all over Western Canada in an effort to shore up the eastern economy. Should the three westernmost provinces balk and start talking separation, that would leave Newfoundland as the only have province to pay for the coalition bailout scheme.

Frankly, I think it's a good idea to cut the public funding to political parties. I absolutely do not want a separatist party getting a dime. Sadly, the timing of this could have been better.


Cheryl Dennis Bowmanville Ontario
said

I think that Stephen Harper was too pompous and thought he was a step ahead of everyone, but now he will have to suffer the consequences. I say he is getting what he deserves for dealing with back room politics and only thinking of his position, instead of dealing with our economic worries. I'm not a liberal, but find what he was trying to do very distasteful!


Randy Luyk
said

He galvanized the opposition when he put his ideology ahead of what's good for the country at this time.

Instead of economic stimulus he wanted to get petty with party funding.


ouifyg
said

Who are these people who were "not voted in" that are taking power? Last time I checked every single Liberal, NDP and Bloc MP was voted in during the last election. I'm tired of people spinning this as undemocratic. It's a terrible idea, I agree, but there is nothing undemocratic about this.
In a two party system, like they have in the States, a change in power without an election would be a problem. In Canada, however, we have FIVE parties. If you don't get more than half the seats, then you need other parties to help you pass legislation. This is no different except that instead of voting on legislation they are effectivly voting on a leader. The conservatives don't have half the seats, so they're not going to be able to vote in their leader without the support of another party.
We elcet MPs and they elect a leader, that's how its always worked. All these cries of "power grabbing" and "treason" are just ridiculous.


Carla in the West
said

Harper did not receive the majority of votes from the Canadian people. The opposition parties, as a coalition, did so they have every right to attempt a government. Harper is being shown for the bully and egocentric person that he is. He may be a policy genuis but he has no idea of how to deal with people. He deserved everything he gets.


adrian telizyn NE BC
said

My wife and I will be sending another $1000 EACH to the Conservative Party on January 1st.

The per-ballot taxpayer funding to the parties HAS to go.

It's time for the West to say "stick it" to Ontario and Quebec once and for all.

"No more prime ministers from Quebec" still adorns the bumper of my pickup truck.


Jason in Edmonton
said

Apparently he gave himself enough rope.


Michael
said

IT IS TIME FOR THE PC THUGS TO BE REMOVED FROM POWER! They do not care about the people, you guys that post here should realize this too. Yes, there are still some people who cry because of "western alienation", but that is no longer the case. If those that have been blinded by the P.C.'s woke up and realized that a coalition of the Liberals, NDP and the Bloc represents more than one group of people, that have their own agenda,and yet still are willing to come together and work together for every person, regardless of what separatists stand for, they still are willing to work together for the whole country. Besides, there is an agreement that they would be basically back benchers and that the NDP and the Liberals would call the shots for 18 months. Let's see then what is different, and then make your choice. Are the P.C. thugs doing anything better right now?!?!


Dennis Lukawesky
said

We wouldn't be in this mess if there wasn't such a high percentage of apathetic eligible voters in Canada. They have no one to blame but themselves but you can be sure they are the ones that will complaining when it's felt in their pocketbooks. Good grief people for now we are a democratic country but not for long if we are forced into a coalition "government?" It's your right. Wake up,smell the coffee and get out and vote in all elections.


Jacqueline
said

This is so crazy. What ever happened to democracy? Yes, I know that this coalition is democratic, however, we just had an election! The people voted Harper back in meaning that the majority of the nation did not want the NDP nor did they want the Liberals. Why is it fair to now disregard the vote and put Dion in power?


Laura
said

After watching some of the "Question period" on TV this afternoon, I don't think any of them should be there. They're all self-serving and use the disguise of having the best interest for Canadians, but it always comes back to the same thing..money & power.


Sebastian from Brampton
said

It is obvious that most people responding here are liberal.

HARPER FOR PM - I think that Harper is one of better PMs in rescent history - those that endors him should join his party as show of support - once he sees the growing support for him let him call the election - I'll vote for him. To join a party in Canada it only costs $10/year money well spent I think. Vote HARPER.

IT IS TREASON FOR allowing QC to form government. I mean it is idiotic for minority to represent majority. Also they are openly wanting to separate hence break up the country. SO they cannot possibly work in the interest of all the Canadians.




laughing in Brantford
said

Harper is not a quitter and if forced will take the backseat until the next election and then he'll jump in with both feet and I'm betting he'll land on 'em unlike the two terrorists that are holding the country up for ransom right now due to their inflated egos.


Kris D
said

@ Kim:

Um, the opposition parties ARE working together. That is the whole point of a “coalition”.

They were left no choice after Harper's broken promise to work with them and consult them. Not only did he fail to consult the opposition - a must in a minority parliament - he tried to introduce partisan right-wing policies while offering nothing for workers/investors in the middle of economic meltdown.

It was just a really, really bad move on his part. It was only a matter of time before the opposition stood up for themselves against these bully tactics.

Eventually, all bullies fall and learn their lesson.



Scott Mills
said

Why do I have a feeling we'll be building more airports/art galleries/whatever in Quebec pretty soon? Isn't that how Mirabel (a.k.a. The World's Most Expensive Parking Lot) got built by Trudeau?


Chris from Calgary
said

One shudders to think that in the event of a coalition government, the balance of power in Canada rests with the Bloc who are set on a solid course to get all they can for Quebec, Quebec, Quebec while undermining our counrty.!!!!! Did anyone pay attention when the Bloc said that they would support the coalition for as long as it satifies the NEEDS of Quebec. What a surprize!! The NDP can taste the power, The Liberals are happy to shove a "has-been" leader on the Canadian people and the Bloc sits back like the spider and rubs their collective hands in glee. Not one of these parties gives a hoot about the failing economy, the tumbling loonie or the shocking stock market. God forbide, they lose all their "perks". I am personally fed up with the children who call themselves leaders. Grow up, play nice and get this country back on the road to recovery. Mr. Harper was elected to govern, let him get on with it.
Why should Canadians prop up any Federal parties. Sink or swim, if you want to play with the big boys! AS a senior citizen, I am tired of my tax dollar going to feather the nests of politicians, while I live on a fixed income.


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