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CTV.ca News Staff

Date: Sat. Nov. 29 2008 7:07 PM ET

The Conservatives have backed away from a contentious proposal to slash public funding for political parties, potentially defusing a political standoff that could have led to a Tory defeat in Parliament.

"I don't think it's worth going into an election over this political subsidy," Transport Minister John Baird told CTV Newsnet Saturday.

The proposed Tory policy, announced as part of the government's fall fiscal update, caused a firestorm earlier this week and raised the possibility that opposition parties would cobble together a coalition to oust the Conservatives from power.

The opposition parties have been in talks to do just that since Thursday, when Finance Minister Jim Flaherty delivered his fiscal update to the House of Commons.

The fall fiscal update also raised the ire of opposition MPs because it lacked an economic stimulus package and instead focused on cost-saving measures, including a plan to cut $27 million in annual taxpayer subsidies to the political parties.

The move was interpreted by the opposition as a sign the Harper government was trying to financially cripple the other parties.

But Baird said that the Tories were aiming to "lead by example" by tightening government spending at a time when Canadians are facing an economic slowdown.

A spokesman for Harper said the Conservatives will make another announcement on Sunday, which political observers expect will include further conciliatory measures.

However, it wasn't clear Saturday if the Conservative change of heart was enough to defuse the situation and stop the opposition from banding together.

"We've just been meeting as a group, and our focus is the economy (and) making sure that we do what's best for Canadians," said NDP MP Paul Dewar.

The Liberals were also pushing for an economic aid package from the government.

"The Conservatives just don't get it," said Liberal house leader Ralph Goodale in a media release.

"What Canadians want from their government is a plan to help protect their jobs, their homes and prevent their hard-earned savings from disappearing."

Meanwhile, the gamble to cut down his political rivals may have backfired on Harper, said CTV's chief parliamentary correspondent Craig Oliver.

He added that with the Conservatives backing down, the opposition parties have become strengthened.

"They realize, in a way that they didn't before, that they are in a position to bring this government down and take power without an election."

However, Oliver stressed that the coalition would have been a messy one, and would have required all of the parties to make major concessions.

A coalition would likely include support from, rather than full participation of, the Bloc Quebecois.

Gov. Gen. Michaelle Jean would then have to decide on whether the coalition should be given a chance to govern, or if she should dissolve Parliament and send Canadians to a second election in less than two months.

On Friday, Harper delayed a non-confidence vote on the economic package by one week. He has derided the opposition attempts to form a coalition, despite trying to do the same thing in 2004 to oust Paul Martin and his liberal minority.

In an interview with CTV Newsnet, Democracy Watch's Duff Conacher said Harper and his Conservatives are playing political roulette.

"The opposition has called his bluff, because they know he doesn't really have a strong hand," he said, adding that the Tories only captured 37 per cent of the popular vote in the last election.

"He doesn't have that strong hand, and he's done a very poorly timed, aggressive, highly partisan and ideological move with his fiscal update."

"They went too far as they usually do, and they've poked the opposition parties in the eye."

With files from The Canadian Press


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Percy
said

Harper wasn't given a majority, but behaved otherwise. Our democracy stated that a minority government must work with other parties. Harper chose not to do that so he must be replaced with someone who will. Apparently that means a coalition. This is Harper's own damned fault.

Norm feldman
said

the big question, who fixed the Law for fixed date election and who broke it Stephen Harper. The election cost tax payers over 300 million dollars! How about the lowest vorter turn out in Canadaian history! come on Harper should resign and give Peter Mackay the leadership. for once let him find a real job. he has never worked for a living other tahn cheering the right wing Bush agenda!

dan in ontario
said

when are the liberals going to realize they lost the election

Marc L. D'Hont
said

I think that if Canadians fall for this dispicable act by the Liberals and the NDP to form a coalition government behind the backs of Canadians and deprive them of a vote as to who should be the Prime Minister and what party should be in power, then they deserve what they get.

I have never witnessed such a despicable arrogant behaviour from any political party as I have now by the Liberals and NDP.. In my mind the Bloc Quebecois don't even enter into any discussion in this forum as all they want is to feed at the public trough on our backs..

It's time to wake up Canada and smell the coffee... The Liberals and NDP will do anything no matter what the cost to the Canadian Taxpayer to get control and run this country into the ground... Maybe they want us to become a "third world" economy!....

This is sick!

True North
said

Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. Harper and Flaherty cynically planned to gut the opposition parties and they have the call to talk about the opposition being anti-democratic. We are now being governed by a minority party that acts like a majority. At least a coalition of the Liberals and NDP would represent more voters than the Cons do, so their is nothing undemocratic about that. Harper and the Tories do not deserve to govern. They ignore the wishes of the majority, they try to emasculate the other parties and even the Public Service by taking away their right to strike. All I want for Christmas is to see Harper and this cronies sitting in the opposition benches.

Allan Eizinas
said

I would assume that a coalition government would be far more democratic than that of the Harper Conservatives. He is the PM, the leader of his party and since there is no revolt over this style then he continues to function well through its use.

The decision making process of a coalition government would certainly not be PM dictated. That being the case, does it really matter who would be the titular head since he would probably have the same power as any other member of Cabinet. It could be anyone who the new caucus chooses.

I would suggest that the decision making process to be the base of the many discussions that are currently taking place between the liberal and NDP camps. I suggest that the Bloc will sit out knowing that it has basically the veto power of any legislation.

I would like to be a fly on the wall on the offices of members of the Conservative caucus. I wonder how many of them were even consulted about Harpers plans and how many were also surprised by Flaherty’s remarks. If public opinion does not change quickly to support Harpers interpretation then Mr. Harper better start to watch his own back.

We are only three and a half months away from March 15. It was on that date that another leader who ruled with an iron hand proved vulnerable.

Look for many Conservatives, past and present, to have a serious talk with Harper. I would not be surprised that the Conservatives announce that they will cut only some small percentage from public funding for political parties and guarantee that a stimulus package in the $billions will be presented within the month – then everybody will go home for Christmas.

Jan
said

The Liberals are so desparate to get power they make a deal with anything and anyone.

Bobby
said

I love it when the Liberals keep talking about hypocrisy. Aren't these the same clowns that rose to power in 93 saying that they would cancel the GST.
Imagine a coalition with Jack Layton in charge of Finance and Gilles Duceppe holding the deciding vote.

KJ in Kingston Ontario
said

Even if it means two months of political uncertainty, thousands of points off the TSX and another $300,000,000 election to yield the the same result -- letting the Liberals return to power in this way should never be permitted to occur. The conservatives were clearly the party chosen to lead the country in the last election.

Paul R. Martin, Brampton
said

The Liberals were repudiated by the electorate. They only received 26% of the popular vote. A party that is favoured by only a quarter of the voters does not deserve to form a government.

Sameer in Vancouver
said

In, 2004, when Paul Martin was the duly elected Prime Minister of Canada, a letter was sent to the Governor-General. It said:

"As leaders of the opposition parties, we are well aware that, given the Liberal minority government, you could be asked by the Prime Minister to dissolve the 38th Parliament at any time should the House of Commons fail to support some part of the government’s program. We respectfully point out that the opposition parties, who together constitute a majority in the House, have been in close consultation. We believe that, should a request for dissolution arise this should give you cause, as constitutional practice has determined, to consult the opposition leaders and consider all of your options before exercising your constitutional authority. Your attention to this matter is appreciated."

It was signed by three people: Gilles Duceppe, Jack Layton, and Stephen Harper. That's right, Stephen Harper signed a letter in 2004 asking the Governor-General NOT to dissolve Parliament in the event of a defeat of the Liberals, and to allow an opposition-led coalition Government. So why isn't Harper telling us the truth, which is that the only reason he thinks Stephane Dion shouldn't form a coalition government is that it would leave Mr. Harper in the cold, and he is more power hungry than the "arrogant Liberals" he made his career attacking.

Bob B
said

What bothers me is that this isn't some anti-democratic move -- in fact, a large majority of Canadians did not vote for Harper and the Conservatives, which would technically mean a coalition would be more representative of Canadians' wishes. However, this is a dangerous move for the Liberals, since they really need to move more towards the centre and siding with the far-left NDP and separatists will not help restore their moderate credentials. Instead of going through with this mess, Harper should offer a deal and eliminate the cuts to federal parties.

Cam in Grande Prairie
said

Let me see...a coalition of Liberals, NDP and The Bloc...think about that fellow Canadians! We would then have a government formed that would include The Bloc which is clearly a separatist party period...what a totally screwed up concept that is!!!
Secondly...How many hundred million dollars will it take for the Liberals and NDP to bribe the Bloc into forming a coalition??? Oh, they are plying with dynamite here folks!!
Western Canada Concept is about to be reborn in the west. We will not accept a large bribe to a Separitist party based in Quebec that clearly wants to leave Canada...What a total joke!!!
Liberals, NDP and the Bloc are complete morons if they think the West will accept this in any way. I can see a very interesting scenario unfold here...The Liberals and NDP are about to self distruct very quickly once Canadians realize what it is they are trying to pull off here.
Separatists governing Canada...Yeh...Right!!!


RRR - Lethbridge
said

This is absolutely ridiculous. The Conservatives were voted in to govern the country. Who does Jack Layton think he is? What an insult to democracy and to the electorate. Like he is saying we don't know what we are doing so they have to take over. This is communism at its best!

Mr. C. in Red Deer
said

You've got to be kidding. The opposition parties won't give up some of the government funding our taxes pay to their parties, when thousands of tax payers, including ourselves, are losing 30-40% of their life savings with the world economic downturn. Shame on you Liberals, NDP & Bloc parties. Suck it up!



Bryan Llewellyn, Ladysmith, BC
said

Intresting spin Harper is ordering his followers to make. Let's never forget that these opposition MPs were all elected in their ridings and have every right to govern the country. That is what they were elected for, and if a coalition is what it turns out to be, then so be it. Haper could have been cooperative instead of being confrontational, after all, it was his choice.

The comment about insults to democracy run hypocritically hollow when you consider that Harper welcomed Emerson into his party with open arms.

Justin
said

This is exactly what Democracy is! Literally the definition: the majority of members in the House of Commons are forming the government. It's enshrined in our own constitution. Harper hates it because he thought he would have free reign for a couple of months till the Libs choose a new leader. He hates that his plan to bankrupt the other parties is backfiring on him so badly. This shows you how much he was seeking to 'cooperate' in the new parliament. If you don't get a majority, then don't govern as if you have one.

A coalition government would be the best thing for Canada, a government that had to compromise for the best wishes of all Canadians, not a cavalier (faux) Western'er who tries to govern with a dictatorship!

Long live Leader of the Opposition Harper!


Marg
said

WHAT do the Conservatives hope to accomplish with this media blitz?? The election is over; they won approx. 37% of the vote--not a majority. If they can't compromise enough with the three opposition parties to maintain the confidence of the House, then the Governor General must allow another party, if they can show that they do have that confidence, to take power. Simple as that. It's our constitutional law.

Blathering on by Harper that this isn't fair just makes him look like a whiner. He can dish it out, but he can't take it.


DB Cooper
said

Hey Marc,

If you think that this is a despicable act, what do you say to the fact that the Conservatives under Stephen Harper attempted the very same thing in order to try to get rid of Paul Martin? And what is Harper's response? Instead of trying to work with the opposition, he's planning on another media smear campaign; the only thing that he's apparently any good at. Harper has absolutely nothing to offer Canadians in a time of economic crisis and all he can do is point fingers at the opposition?

Harper does not have the backing, nor the trust of the majority of Canadians. If the Liberals had a more charismatic leader in the last election, they would have knocked Harper and his obedient little puppies back to Alberta where they belong.


JS
said

This coalition has NOTHING to do with a stimulus package. It was stated that a stimulus package was coming in the next budget, which is coming in early February or can be pushed up to late January. The coalition IS about the opposition parties losing their taxpayer subsidies.

Since 2001, the Bloc has had an average of 5,500 donors per year. Between Jan.1 and June 30 of this year, they have had 1,070 donors. In 2007-08, the Bloc and its candidates were reimbursed by Ottawa for 50 per cent of their election expenses, and the party itself received federal per-vote subsidies based on the 1.5 mil-lion votes they received in the 2006 election.The rest of Canada had funded separatism to the tune of $5,970,311. And what were the separatists prepared to cough up for their francophone destiny in that 18 month period? Just $503,676.

It appears Conservative supporters believe in the party enough to send in money. In 2007, 107,492 of them did so, and a further 78,178 in the first six months of 2008, for about $25 million. In the same time, rather less than 45,000 Liberal donations netted about $6 million.
The NDP does fairly well for themselves. Time to put a STOP to this. ALL the parties should learn how to raise their own funds and NOT rely on the taxpayers to fund their parties.

Joanne from Northern Ontario
said

The NDP and Liberal "boys" would not be advancing a coalition idea if the financial measures proposed by the Conservatives had been proactive and inspired confidence. Why should we all swallow the blue package if it won't deliver the full impact required by our economic situation.

Instead of blaming the opposition members, Conservatives better pull their socks up and come up with something much more effective and appropriate, right NOW!

The beauty of democracy is that it offers unexpected solutions/opportunities in dire situations, such as we are in presently.


Darcy O'Neil
said

I am surprised at the ignorance of Canada politics and how a parliamentary system works. This is Canada, we elect MP's who select a Prime Minister, we don't elect a president. So theoretically, anyone sitting as an MP can be the PM. It doesn't matter if the party isn't in power, it's whoever the majority of parliamentarians who decide the PM.

Coalition governments are quite common around the world.

tc
said

All this talk about the cons having a minority and dont represent the majority of canadians means nothing. In a fair democratic election they received the most votes from those cast and were given a mandate for a minority government. The oppostion and supporters assume that the other 60 percent who didnt vote dont support the cons but they dont know that. This move to form a coalition is disgusting. Considering that when layton mentioned forming one during the election with the liberals dion emphatically said it would never happen. Guess he lied. I think all the parties need to cooperate more with each other and do what is right for the country given the current economic crisis and other issues facing us. But unfortunately none of them seem to know how to get past their own agendas and do the right thing. Sad day for Canada.

bruce nicolson
said

This is quite a dangerous and unprecedented attempt to sieze power by the liberals and ndp.The last time it happened in the 20,s,there was no separatist party involved. The Bloc will not do anything without strings attached, period!
We have one party with substantially more seats than any other party and they should at the very least be allowed to present a budget in January. The opposition can defeat it and send us to another election, NOT form a coalition that no one wants.

Kevin
said

I voted for the Liberals, but I surely didn't vote for the Bloc or the NDP. If they join with each other, I am voting for Conservatives.

Al
said

The Tories are acting like school yard bullies trying to take lunch money from the little guys, and are now suprised the little guys have fought back to protect themselves.
All four need to sit down, roll up their shirt sleeves, and figure out a way to make this work going forward.
No one political party was given absolute authority, because the Conservatives won a minority,which means they must listen to, and work with, the opposition parties when decisions are to be made.
Mr. Harper needs to prove to the majority of Canadians that he deserves to lead a majority government, not cripple the other parties financially so they cannot compete in an election against him.


MDM
said

The Conservatives were indeed elected in the last election -- as a MINORITY government! There were given a clear mandate to work with the other parties to govern. Instead, they decided to bulldoze and bully their way through, right from the start. If they fall, it is of their own doing. This isn't about the Liberals trying to overturn the results of the election. It is about the Tories not respecting these results. Coalitions form governments is many other places in this world -- and Canada can do it too.

Gary from Surrey
said

I'm pretty sure this coalition will not be in the best interest of the Liberals but what else can they do? It will give legitimacy to the NDP, complicate their leadership situation and put them into a weak position of power in a very difficult time. Harper made it a fight or die situation for them when he tried to repudiate a political funding program he supported in opposition. The Liberals will have to go through with it now because in a few months the GG will probably have to call an election if Harper is defeated, and they are broke.

Brent
said

Brison talking hypocrisy?
He finished last 2 ballots in a row (quite a feat) in the final federal PC leadership race. Then he supported the most pro-merger candidate; Jim Prentice. Finally he left the Tories when the merger happened.
And while criticizing the Tories, NDP and Bloc for supporting a non-confidence vote he now supports the Liberals, NDP and Bloc in a coalition that would choose their presumptive PM in a backroom.

Catherine
said

Conservative talking points.

Well let's see, if one cares to listen to Iggy, Rae, McCullum, Dion, and every other Liberal - one hears the same talking points: Stephen Harper doesn't have a plan; Stephen Harper did do enough to prepare Canada; Stephen Harper squandered the surplus; Stephen Harper is evil (oops - those are talking points from the Libber groupies).

Dean from Edmonton
said

Allan Eizinas
I would assume that a coalition government would be far more democratic than that of the Harper Conservatives. He is the PM, the leader of his party and since there is no revolt over this style then he continues to function well through its use.

Allan, although your comment does have merit, it really has no bases. Sure, 68% of Canadians didn't want a Conservative government, but less wanted the Liberals, and even less wanted the NDP. Add to that Harpers approval rating was higher than the actual seats gained.

The Bloc won't vote with this coalition without the "What's in it for us" clause, which leaves the following numbers....

Conservatives 143
Liberal NDP - 114

These parties proved they have nothing in common last election, it's doubtful the Gov. Gen. will even give them a mandate to rule even if the Bloc did decide to join....


Aidan
said

This idea that the Libs and NDP are somehow behaving undemocratically is idiotic. Our system is about confidence of the house and whether a collection of MPs can assure the GG that they can reliably hold it. Nowhere in the constitution is the word "prime minister" or "political party", so our democratic system in no way guarantees that the PM will be the leader of the party with the most seats.

Anyone who says that a coalition government is undemocratic is being dishonest or doesn't understand the Canadian (British Parliamentary) democratic system.

B. Lang
said

Harper quit being a Hypercrite. You wrote a letter to than GG Clarkson(sp) about doing the exact same thing, forming a Coalition Government when Martin was PM, so what's going on now is no different.

So quit the BS and remember your PROMISE of how in this new Minority Governmemnt you would work with the other Parties.

Ryan
said

Does harper not understand that this is Canada, not the United States? We don't vote for a prime minister, we vote for the party that we believe best suites our own beliefs.

The prime minister is not the the sole decision maker in a party...

Dave from Winnipeg
said

Harper stirred the hornet's nest by breaking his own fixed election date law! If he had not done so, in my opinion, the issue of the opposition going forward with replacing the government before 2009 would never have arisen. He has to live with the consequences of his self-centred and opportunistic agenda.

Paul Sigmundson
said

Well if the conservatives won't seek consensus and tries to bankrupt the other parties while calling it an economic measure, why should we pay any attention to their complaints? The conservatives were not the only party to receive votes and they seem to think that they can disregard any other point of view because of their minority control. I can't see why we would allow any minority party to rule in Canada without forming a coalition that would give them a majority of votes in the House.

Matt from Oshawa
said

Do the members of the Conservative Party not realize that here in Canada we do not vote for who we want to be prime minister? We vote for our Members of Parliment. So their argument that this will give us a Prime Minister and government we did not vote for is seriously flawed. Not only that but the majority of Canadians did not vote for the Conservatives so in reality democracy will be better served and the Canadian population would be better represented with a coalition government.

Rob in Oxford
said

The idea that the so called coalition would have a right to rule is very flawed. During the last campaign they would have had 3 times as many voices at the debates, they had 3 times the air play due each party, 3 times the comments on interviews etc.
It would only be just if in a new election this coalition ran as one party.

Allan Kuan, Vancouver, BC, Canada
said

All of the "communist" comments are making me somewhat frustrated as I don't see how the NDP would favour a communist-style government. Their attempts to stand up and bring social services for the working class should be congratulated.

I also don't see why a coalition should not be formed. A party who has more seats but is in minority should not expect free rides. And sadly Stephen Harper expected one with the economy crisis. As well, the party with the most seats in a minority situation SHOULD NOT be seen as the one given governing power. You should only look to Europe to see examples of coalitions in power....

Ian from N.B.
said

Thank you Sameer for that excellent example of Conservative hypocrisy. It would appear that the Prime Minister is running scared, I guess he never learned the lesson "You push a man to far, eventually he pushes back".

I welcome our new coalition.

cantuc
said

The Liberal Party of Canada in its infinite entitled wisdom has decided that the Canadian voter doesn't have the mental capacity to choose the proper government. From now on all federal elections will be declared null and void, unless of course you vote Liberal. Any other vote will be discounted. Re-education will begin immediately following the over throw of the legitimately elected, but unfortunately, not-Liberal government. You will send your children to training schools beginning at the age of four years old to ensure that this never happens again. Any votes for any party but the liberal party of Canada will be followed by shock treatment until you get it right. HAIL THE ENTITLED ONES!!!!!

junkyard dog
said

If this leads to a coalition or another election I hope all Canadians will vow not to vote for an existing MP of any party. The all consuming desire is to be reelected again. Get it together or lose your voter

Rob Delaney in Victoria BC
said

This is EVERYTHING about the poison pill and NOTHING about a stimulus package which is mandated in a few short months.
This is a grab for future power by Harper, plain and simple. I didn't vote for him, but I don't mind him as a minority PM. What scares the heck out of me is his neophyte tinkering with taxpayers monies to political parties (which I support, and the reason I do is I want to know that no undue influence is coming from corporate Canada or high rolling party hacks from any party). This whole thing disgusts me and he does it at a time when the Liberals are at a distinct disadvantage. Political Opportunism at its worst Mr. Harper, shame on you, you are NOT doing what you should be doing as a PM, you are STILL fighting an election that gave you a minority and you try to turn it around and blame the opposition. Whoever is counselling you is WAY off on this one! If this succeeds I will work for almost ANY opposition party to stop this type of Bush style politics in my country by Harper! Earn your respect Mr. PM and stop acting like a spoiled child who only got half the marbles.

Tanstaafl
said

I Haven't been this excited about Canadian politics in a long time.
This makes me feel a little better about our system.
I was upset when the popular vote meant nothing and the conservative party was elected. Its nice to see the opposition growing a back bone. I hope they don't blink.. They are all elected officials and if they form a majority government then its the government the people elected.
Harper's defense is laughable.
Typically petty and politically motivated. Talking points and a media blitz?
He should have been working on cooperating from day one instead he's a political opportunist.

DD from Ottawa
said

So what are they going to call the new coalition party ZANU-PF Canada???

John Dingly
said

Apparently many Canadians don't understand the basis of our parliamentary democracy which is itself based on the Westminster model. Given that we currently have a minority government it is COMPLETELY within the power and mandate of the opposition parties to ask the GG to form a coalition goverment. So stop the rhetoric that suggests this is 'undemocratic.' Canadians should have known that this was a possibility when they chose to install a minority government. If you are a Canadian that didn't realize this then maybe you should crack open a book on Canadian politics.

That aside, it is important to address the real reason behind the opposition threats. This is about money, taxpayer's money, going to support political parties. Democracy is supposed to be about parties convincing their supporters to ante-up with donations. If these parties are unable to do so then it is their problem, and it speaks volumes about their lack of pull with voters. MY money is not to be used to support a political party unless I want it, through direct donation.

Harper is correct in his attempt to fix this government gravy train introduced by Chretien and his cronies to ensure Liberal supremacy. His timing is also right.

Richard Murray
said

All this nonsense takes me back to my first vote ever, which I cast in support of Louis S. St Laurent. Mr St. Laurent lost that election, 104 to 112 for the Tories. Many in the party wanted him to hatch a deal with the CCF, (fore runner of the NDP), or the SoCreds. Mr. St. Laurent, knowing that would destroy the future for his party, refused to have any part of those devious shenanagans. His answer to the party faithful at that time, is as true today... if you do not win the majority of the seats in the House of Commons, from the people, then you cannot form the government.
But then, Mr. St Laurent was a CANADIAN first, a Liberal second.

Carole Davis, Stratford ON
said

Good for Mr. Harper. He has the right ideas. I loathe what the coalition will do to Canada. People need to face the fact that this whole thing is over losing public financing. They should never have had this to begin with. The LIb/NDP will spend us into oblivion. Mr. Harper's ideas will see us through. However, if the opposition wants to play, lets dance. No automatic government, we have an election. The people must elect their government, not have it forced down their throats by the GG.

Willy from the West
said

Interesting how in Canadian politics nobody is right and everybody is wrong for what they believe. Apparently there are only bad guys in Ottawa: Harper for failing to notice he has a minority, he is mean-spirited and anti-democratic and he can't think of what to do to keep the economy alive. Obama has an economic council of great minds to advise him - to stimulate the economic to keep it from going into free-fall. Harper just waits for it, all alone. Then the opposition, seeing both their demise and the country's economy in Harper's weak economic plan, decide they can do better. Maybe, but a heck of a position to be forced into.

Paul
said

First of all, I am not a conservative. Why do some people keep on mentioning the fixed date election and Harper breaking his "promise". Please be informed when you want to speak out...people just sound ignorant when they keep on ranting about fixed date election promises being broken. The fixed date was written only for Majority Govts. Harper did not break his word. When people keep on mentioning this, non-Conservatives lose credibility.

Back to the subject on hand. The Conservatives need more stimulus for the economy. Then perhaps the opposition parties will try and cooperate.

YEB
said

Let's take a deep breath here for a second and think this through – Right or wrong, it is our political system and whatever the Liberals and NDP agree to form a coalition or not, isn’t the issue. Whether Harper is right or wrong isn’t the main issue either, it is the fact the BQ "SEPERATIST" party from Québec once again will call the shots as without what is "GOOD" for Québec factor, this coalition won't go anywhere fast.

Gilles Lebrun
said

When I look at the big picture, I like the idea of a coalition. Party ideology would be set aside, legislation would be for the common good and there would not be any "sneeky" agendas...Why not give it a try. If it doesn't work out then, dissolve Parliament and let's go back to the polls.

A very interesting idea!!!

Pat_from_Mississauga
said

Duff Conacher is right - Harper doesn't have a strong hand. In Harper's own words - "The opposition have EVERY RIGHT TO BRING DOWN THE GOVERNMENT."

Conservatives should DUMP HARPER. His arrogance and mismanagement has cost the Conservatives a majority in the last election and he has just cost them a minority now. For goodness sakes - replace Harper with Jim Prentice, Peter McKay or anyone else.

Harpers Fault
said

Much agreement with percy, this is the minority government canadians voted for, it is not a majority, the whole country didn't pick one. As part of our democracy Mr. Harper you need to work with other parties, and you are choosing not to, this is your fault that a coalation is forming. And i'm certainly proud it is.

james
said

The people of Canada spoke and chose a Conservative government. I would never vote in my life time for the NDP. This is outragous!

CITIZEN
said

If the Canadian public were not so apathetic and reliant on the system, Harper would have had his majority. In fairness though, it was Quebec, who really have as much right to federal politics as any of the other provinces, that upset his chances of achieving that goal.
Harper and the Conservatives are asking Canadians very clearly to be accountable and be responsible for their actions and family security without any expectations from the government beyond federal administration duties.
If you want someone to live your life for you folks...go to North Korea or some other socialist empire. Let Harper get on with the job of stabilizing this country.


brenda
said

Yeah, the election cost over 300 million dollars and now we know why, because they all get paid for how many votes they get, which includes a party that would rather see separation from English Canadians...

I want to thank PM Harper for bringing this all to light! There is no way in the world we want to see some strange coalition government running the show in these perilous times!

Greywolf
said

I think a coalition government is not such a bad idea. It doesn't matter who becomes Prime Minister. All the parties will have to work together and we won't have just one party calling the shots.

neilpk
said

I don't understand where Harper is coming from, talking about who is or isn't "entitled" to govern. It's really a simple mathematical equation: if you have the support of more than half the MPs, you form the government. All the sour grapes about "backroom deals" is hogwash!

Greg Townsend
said

Sameer, did you even read your own posting? The text reads that opposition parties are to be consulted upon a non-confidence vote, and that the governor general give them an oppotunity to approach her with 'options.' No where does the language directly say 'form coalition government.' And I'm sure Harper signed it for that reason. Harper isn't lying, he's just calling their bluff, by pointing out that their failure in the election shouldn't give them cause to change the government over campaign finance. Moreover, why didn't they try this right after the election?

Wilf Day
said

In a democracy, the majority has the right to govern. The Liberals and NDP together got seven percent more votes than the Conservatives, but that leaves them needing support from the Bloc. If they can get that support, fine. But if every vote counted equally, adding the Green Party would give the coalition a majority of both seats and votes -- over 51% of the votes -- without needing the Bloc. One thing is certain: by pretending he has a majority with less than 38% support, Mr. Harper has made the biggest miscalculation of his career. Much like Joe Clark in 1979.


Kevin
said

the tories won 5.208.796 votes. the "coalition" won 6.148.746 votes. whats wrong to govern as a coalition and represent the majority of canadians? by the way, the bloc will not "govern" in a coalition goverment, they just want to tolerate them. This coalition would represent all ABC-Voters from the last election.

Allan Eizinas
said

September 9, 2004

Her Excellency the Right Honourable Adrienne Clarkson,
C.C., C.M.M., C.O.M., C.D.
Governor General
Rideau Hall
1 Sussex Drive
Ottawa, Ontario K1A 0A1

Excellency,

As leaders of the opposition parties, we are well aware that, given the Liberal minority government, you could be asked by the Prime Minister
to dissolve the 38th Parliament at any time should the House of Commons fail to support some part of the government’s program.

We respectfully point out that the opposition parties, who together constitute a majority in the House, have been in close consultation. We
believe that, should a request for dissolution arise this should give you cause, as constitutional practice has determined, to consult the
opposition leaders and consider all of your options before exercising your constitutional authority.

Your attention to this matter is appreciated.

Sincerely,

Hon. Stephen Harper, P.C., M.P.
Leader of the Opposition
Leader of the Conservative Party of Canada

Gilles Duceppe, M.P.
Leader of the Bloc Quebecois

Jack Layton, M.P.
Leader of the New Democratic Party


Rob in Edmonton
said

In my view this article emphasizes that Harper does not want to have an open discussion about this issue. Harper is focused on communicating his message to the public in a very distorted way. These are rhetorical strategies. This is a great example of Harper's command and control style of leadership. I am amazed that anyone would support this sort of approach to garnering public support.

Yes, the opposition parties are upset about the potential cut for party funds. My understanding is that Conservatives are able to raise funds more easily, as they have supporters with more money. So, this move would not affect the Conservative party to the same degree as the Liberals or the NDP. Do you really want a political environment where only the rich have an advantage? Wouldn't this restrict opportunities for democracy? However, this is just one of the concerns that the opposition parties have to the conservative (minority) government's plans.

Ward, Abbotsford BC
said

This move by the opposition parties is what has been ingrained in the system for too long. The opposition does not respect democracy. Why are broadbent and Chretien even involved? They had their day now get out and stay out. Go into retirement and stay there. Broadbent and Chretien are relics of the past. I see the day where the liberals being as Chameleons. They will fade out as they pull stunts that do not reflect the wishes or desires of the people. Harper is trying to govern, give him a chance. As for Parizeau he never had the best interests of Canada on his agenda.

We need stability not game playing by the opposition.

Brent - Penticton
said

It would be very interesting to know what would be the repercussions if the Government rushed a stimulus package that included a bail out of the Canadian auto manufactures, and then the US government decided to let the Big Three's financial difficulties run there course and go bankrupt. We would then be in the unenviable position of having wasted a pile of money, and I am sure the coalition (New Liberal Democrats - NLD) would once again be frothing at the mouth at the folly of the Government. As well, CAW has stated that they will not participate in any bail out that involves a wage/benefit roll back.

The Government has already dealt with liquidity problems with our financial institutions and infrastructure funding is not an instant fix.

Stay the course Mr. Harper, and please cut the $1.95/vote. The new party NLD, would have so much infighting among the potential leaders that the back benchers would revolt and become Independents or cross the floor to become Conservatives. We need a country with ALL political parties working for ALL Canadians.

John E
said

Mr. Harper was given a minority mandate to govern Canada as our PM. The minority mandate meant Canadians expected that he would work in harmony with the three opposite parties and INDs to move an agenda ahead. The mandate did not give him and the Conservatives a majority; therefore it is incumbent on all parties to co-operate and I would have expect Mr. Harper to lead in the great lovefest. The initial calling from the PM for co-operation was an excellent first step, but after that he tripped on his tongue, stepped on everyones toes and fell flat on his face. Now he will have to eat crow or give up the keys to Sussex Drive. My, My Stephen the webs we do weave. Why Oh Why did you throw mud in the faces of the people you needed to co-operate with. Hopefully you will survive this and will learn that to be nasty and dictatorial all the time will come back to bite you. Further piece of advice.... dump that Flaherty guy, he was a loser in Ontario politics and he'll only drag you down as PM. Good Luck!


Linda Ballantyne
said

Can someone please get the correct percentage of how much the election was won by the Conservatives and use that amount based on how many people voted! don't just pull a number out of the air that will fit your temper.

And, we maybe ALL should be thinking long and hard about how we want our tax dollars spent! Belt tightening goes over far better if it starts at the top and works it's way down. It shows that the top dogs maybe do care and do want to cutback.

I'm sorry - but I don't see that concept with the Lib/NDP/Bloc - they are in it for the gravy! Never mind that there are getting to be more and more of us who can't afford much more than the basics!

DJ Ottawa
said

If Stephane Dion had said he was open to a coalition with the NDP in the last federal election, he would have been crushed by the electorate to prevent this from happening.

Canadians did not vote for a coalition government of Liberals and NDP. If the Liberals and NDP want to run the country together, then fine, they need to do it fairly by running as a joint team in the election and presenting this to the electorate as an option. That is fair and reasonable.

Canadians were misled by these two parties and this amounts to hijacking democracy through party deals. Who has the secret agenda now?!

And for all those Liberals who think this is a brilliant idea, think twice. Working with a separatist party? Working with socialists? Not only will this alienate the West for the foreseable future, but it could also destabilize the country. I don't live in the West, but if I did, I'd be thinking of separating from this mess.


Jake in Ontario
said

Soon Canadians will have another election and it will be necessary to give the Conservative Party of Canada the majority that it needs.

Canada needs stability in a period of economic turmoil. The Liberal and NDP are eager to form a coalition with a separatist party. It is critical at this time that Harper get a majority mandate that will prevent the liberals from casting this country into turmoil!

PM Stephen Harper is the prudent, responsible, and proven leader who is needed to guide Canada through a period of global economic and social chaos.

God bless Canada and its people in this difficult time!

JP Barrie
said

We've been through this already. Canadians chose the conservatives to lead us through the economic downturn ahead who honestly predicted a slim budget deficit until an upturn probably within 1 year. We all knew this going into the election and voted conservative knowing the Harper & Flaherty policies would do the best they could in very turbulent times. I don't have confidence in the Liberal party to guide us through, we've been there in past recessions and the squandered billions, and hurt Canadians with high 20% interest rates, tumbling C$ of .50, high unemployment, homes lost to foreclosure, and plant manufacturing closures. Do the Liberals want to risk taking us through that again. Think again before you try to oust the Conservatives as this could backfire on the NDP and Liberals for even trying. WE might just want a majority government and be rid of this childish antics in Ottawa finally.


Stimulus package
said

If this colition is really about a stimulus package. Then where is theirs??? Or is it just unacceptable that the Conservatives don't have one at this exact minute?

DH
said

Hey all you Liberal lovers - over 12 years of rule under Chretien what did the Libs do to alleviate our doctor shortages and healthcare crisis in Canada? Remember - it was their cutbacks that caused it.

To everyone that says "$30 million in savings is a drop in the bucket, why bother - it's just Harper being mean" - give you head a shake. $30 million saved is money saved.

The Libs and NDP have shown their true colours, and the Bloc, well they never hid theirs. They can't raise money themselves, and have to rely on handouts from the taxpayers. How can I expect them to run the country in a fiscally responsible manner when they can't even keep themselves afloat??!!


Kat in Canada
said

So let me see if I understand this. The Libs and the NDP want to form a coalition government. Together they would have 114 seats in the house while the Conservatives have 143 seats.

The only way for this to happen is if they receive support from the Bloc. The Bloc leader has said repeatedly he will only support programs that are good for Quebec.

The Bloc currently receives 86% of it's funding from the Canadian Taxpayer so they can continue to try and destroy this country. They are also the province that receives the most amount of transfer payments.

And now, because the Libs and NDP don't want to use their own fundraising machines to raise money for their own party they are going to give the Bloc the balance of power?

Why should the Canadian taxpayer fund this separatist party?

Wouldn't $30M provide a lot of supplies for homeless shelters this winter? During this economic crisis while we are all reducing our budgets, the same cannot be said about our politicians.

Fraser
said

I agree with the Harper government or any government that is in power at this juncture in time given the economic downturn in that they are saving taxpayers unnecessary expenditures.

I am tired of paying for the political musings of ALL parties concerned and the fact that my taxpaying dollar pays for those musings.

What the Harper government is proposing is that the public funding for all parties cease and desist. This was made into a firestorm pointing to the conservatives not handling the economy properly and therefore bringing down the government. The fact that the liberals and NDP played a shell game and diverted the attention of ALL involved away from the real agenda of the taxpayers monies for the political parties. Are they all that power hungry?

Is the liberal party that desperate for funding? Must be......

Martin
said

What insane blindness! The Conservatives GLADLY embraced BQ support during their last parliamentary tenure, and now criticize the opposition for doing the same.

Harper went to GG Clarkson in 2004 asking that she look at other 'possibilities' than an election should the Paul Martin government be brought down. Now, he is calling the prospect of a fully constituted coalition government 'undemocratic'?

Get off your high horse, Harper.

Daniel
said

Everyone is talking about how a coalition gov't would be SO UNDEMOCRATIC - and I say look how the CONservatives are acting; like they won a majority or something. It is clear that the CONservatives are just trying to find a way to get that majority that continues to elude them, and if they do, we are all doomed. If this is how the CONservatives act when they have limited power - imagine what they would do if they were in complete control. I'm scared.

Don in Canada
said

The problem with Harper is he is acting as he has a majority and he hasn't. He has to live with this fact even it is very hard for him to accept.

Melanie Terrace BC
said

This looks like a dangerous game for the Liberals. While I agree that Harper should not have put the election funding issue in with the fiscal update,the Liberals strategy could win the batle, but end up losing the war.
Liberals have much more in common with Conservatives on economic issues, than they do with either the BLOC or the NDP. If they get together with the BLOC and the NDP I think it is a mistake to assume those who usually vote Liberal wii be happy with this arrangement. There are quite a few conservatives in the Liberal party, who would likely go to Harper the next time. And many Liberals who would be appalled by them courting the separatists just to get back in office.
And,if this economy goes south in spite of this new coalition, Liberals will be in the wilderness for decades.

Steve in PEI
said

Talk about despicable, playing slimy, hardball politics with the fiscal update to try and force the opposition to vote to bankrupt itself is the lowest of the low, especially in these uncertain economic times, and right after an election to boot. The Conservatives promised to try and make this Parliament work - I think that wins some kind of all-time speed record for broken promises.

As far as I'm concerned, the opposition is completely within its rights if it wants to take down this government. People will forever compare Stephen Harper's minority government record to that of Joe Clark, another who thought he could govern with a minority as if he had a majority. Unfairly, because at least Joe Clark was a decent person. After this display I shudder to think what Harper would do if he actually had a majority.


Jim K
said

So the Liberals want to regain control of the country by forming up with the NDP and the BLOC. And it's Jean Chretian and Ed Broadbent of all people organizing this. They're not even elected in to Parliament. The NDP are a socialist/communist party and the BLOC's only interest is to get as much out of Canada and to split this great country. It's a political disaster. Dion will be PM even though he led the Liberals to their worst election in history. Imagine Jack Layton as Minister of Finance. We'll be broke in no time. Three parties with three different interests, it's a house which will surely fall.

Kathy
said

I find it difficult to believe that Canadians are seeing the political parties subsidy cuts as the PM's way of being arrogant and the Conservatives acting like a majority Government vs minority Gov't. I did not vote Conservative, but I agree with the funding cut. I think the move to cut the subsidy is the sole reason for the opposition parties wanting to overthrow the Gov't, not their spin about the lack of an economic stimulus package from the Gov't, that's just their excuse. On that note, I have not heard a peep about what the coalition Gov't stimulus pkg. would be !!
As a Canadian voter & taxpayer I am weary of the arrogance and the sense of entitlement of all Canadian politiians, which, once again, has thrown our country into turmoil and more instability. Why should we be paying subsidies to political parties, why should we be paying for free air flights for polititians families & friends,paying for massages,meals,their extra healthcare,fat pensions etc.,etc.
Give US a break! GROW UP and start WORKING to help ALL Canadians not just YOURSELVES!

Jerry
said

I suppose that cutbacks do not apply to political parties only common folk!

Dave from Calgary
said

It is disappointing to see the Conservative government back down. Regardless of the motivation behind the proposed funding cuts it remains fundamentally undemocratic for my tax dollars to flow to parties that I would never voluntarily support. Bad enough that non Quebecers pay the salaries, benefits and pensions of the Bloc members whose intention it is to secure an independant Quebec regardless of the damage to the remaining members of the Dominion. How outrageous that the Liberals and NDP would even consider a formal agreement allowing such a party to effectively govern Canadians from all provinces when the Bloc will not even run a party outside of Quebec. Of course when less than fifty percent of eligible voters effectively pay any income tax they probably don't care as much as I do about how it is spent.

sonny
said

just goes to show what the opposition is more concerned about: their political survival over and above balancing the budget. Whether the liberals or the conservatives had made this choice... I would not care. If they back down now! We know the truth! If they don't well I think they are just looking for a reason to justify their actions!

If the libs make a deal with the devil what a mess that will stir up!

This is why I don't put much hope in the political system! They are all in it for their own!

Richard R., Grimsby
said

If Harper and his neo-con cronies, many from the Mike Harris Common sense days from which we are still recovering, somehow wriggle out of this, at least the idea of a coalition government has been explored. In terms of the number of Canadians who could have voted(41 % chose not to), Harper has a 22 % acceptance. He tries to govern as if he got 51 % of the votes.
Our first-past-the-post system is archaic and only the UK, U.S. and ourselves use it. By proportional representation the Greens should have had 22 seats and a player in any alliance. It is sad but I doubt that we will change. Well, just maybe one day! We have a shameful record with our poor, aboriginal people and most things which effect the have-nots in Canada.

The old lady
said

We all know that the opposition parties are upset with the thought of losing their free millions from the tax payer and nothing else. They don't give a tinkers damn what happens to you or me. They just want to steal power to feather their nests.
What economic package have the so called colition settled on? When will they be ready to present it? Not before late January or early Feb. This is the same time that our present legally elected government is going to present us with a package. If Jack Layton becomes PM most big industries and companies will run like a olympic sprinter out of Canada and off shore to make their products. Dion was clearly rejected by the Canadian electrotate and is resigning as head of his party. Duceppe has said he will go along if Quebec gets the lions share of things. He clearly wants to take Quebec out of Canada. There is not much can be done until we find out what the New President of the USA is going to do. Every one knows that 90% of our product goes to the USA our biggest trading partner. This is a sad day for Canada if the Governor General accepts this coilition.

Steve G
said

I don't know why the idea of a coalition has the Cons running scared...If a coalition is so unpalatable to the electorate, then Harper et al should have no problem securing a majority the next time around right?

Gord from Guelph
said

Mr Harper, If you had made this part of your Election Platform you would not have received my Vote. You will get what you deserve.

Cory - Toronto
said

Not two months ago Dion was saying that the NDP would be a disaster for Canada. Now he is going to put them in cabinet.

This is all about the Liberals not being able to handle losing.
The Liberals have the lowest showing in the history of the party and now they want to simply take power away from the winning party. This is a very scary slippery slope. People better take this very seiously, and realize what it means. Scary indeed. I wouldn't want the Conservatives doing it either if it was reversed.
I can just imagine what will happen in western Canada. There is no way on earth the 4 western provinces will stand for it.


Tom from Toronto
said

Guess this back-down is a mixed blessing. At least now the Socialists do not have reason to topple the government and grind our country into third-worldness. Too bad that the opposition was too selfish, I kinda like my tax money doing something useful instead of bloating the coffers of parties like the NDP, Bloc and Liberals. Waste of money! I hope the people see the opposition parties for what they really are: Old boy's clubs out for their own interests and not those of Canadians. PS: 25% wanted the Liberals, and around 15% wanted the NDP and the Bloc each? As I can see it, looks like the people want less and less of the NDP and Liberals!

Mike in ON
said

I really don't see why ANYONE is kicking up such a fuss over discontinuing public funding of political parties. All the Conservatives have done here is say, "look, we got our financial house in order ON OUR OWN. Why can't YOU?" It's thoroughly ridiculous that ANY of them get tax money - good on the Conservatives for leading the way in belt-tightening!

In opposing this, the opposing parties have played their cards - they're either unwilling, or unable to exist without handouts - which, to me, says that their so-called 'supporters' can only pay lip service, whereas Conservative supporters SHOW their support - and because of how the rules work, those donations come from the PUBLIC, not from 'big oil,' or 'bay street,' or whatever you want to claim.

The thought of the Bloq holding the balance of power, not to mention Dion/Layton with ANY sort of power, is frightening!

bonnie
said

Bonnie
If the goverment is now NOT defeated,then it was thier entitlements,that they were willing to have an election over?


Shay
said

The Conservatives were clearly the party chosen to lead the country in the last election, with 37% of the vote.. right, and the other 63% of the vote doesn't matter. It's a minority Parliament, it's time for the Conservatives to stop playing games and try to govern with the help of the other federal parties. They do not have the right to try to govern like they have a majority!


Nick in Gatineau
said

Regardless if it was the Funding or the stimulus package...

The minimum that I ask from my MP, and any MP for that matter, is that he or she know and understand democracy.

The minimum that I ask is that he or she is capable of reconcilling international and domestic law to make life for Canadian citizens better on both playing fields.

The minimum that I ask is that government establishes basis rather than retrict it.

The minimum that I ask is that MPs realize that they represent us, not the other way around.

The minimum that I ask is that ideas make my own, and my neighbor's ideas grow. Give me something to respect where government is going. Make us dream of something, be it with pride, ambition or even anger... as long as it is full.

Harper is 0 for 5.




Julius Jagersma
said

Why do political parties need tax dollars to survive? It seems to me that the primary reason for unity among the opposition parties is their wallets. If donations from their supporters are not enough, something is seriously wrong. If they were seriously concerned over the economy, they would not oppose this move by the governing party.


gar
said

Harper once more proved he is a heads up leader. He backed off the 1.95 per vote and made the Liberals and NDP look like greedy grasping politicians they are. They do not dare bring down this government on this economic B>S>that every one knows is politics.Dion and Layton Canada's Laurel and Hardy re-incarnated.Imagine a government having the Block holding the hammer there goes our country.


Niagara George
said

Here we have another hint at the infamous "Hidden Agenda" of Harper and the Cons.

37% of the popular vote is not enough to say the country supports every decision you make.

Harper needs to be realistic and think about the election results. At the very best, Canadians selected his party to lead a coalition of party policies. If he sat down with the other leaders and had true discussions with 'give and take' he probably could work out some very important policies for these difficult times.

Since it is doubtful he could do that, the Liberals and NDP must be praised for working together to keep these neocons from destroying our democratic principles.

I wonder why John Baird got stuck with doing the "Back-Down" announcement. Perhaps Steve was out job hunting. Wouldn't it be fun if he was gone, before Stephan Dion?!


Sean - Ottawa
said

If you can look at the major story today and the last 6 months or more. The real issue has been the economy, not just Canadian, but global. Any government that can position Canada as, "the only country with sound financial and banking principles" has my vote. The Conservative government has been making changes to the Canadaian financial system to provide protection. Like the flu shot, you may be protected from most related viruses but you cannot be protected from everything. Although our technical recession may seem bleak, we are in far better shape than many other countries in the world. It would seem that the other parties have lost sight of this and want to spend another 300 million on an election when clearly money is tight. The parties are not the only people/institutions loosing money. Have they ever considered that the PC gov't has the true knowledge of the gov'ts financial position and are waiting to see what happens so that they will have to only use one stimulous package!!


George from Brampton
said

I cannot see how the Libs and NDP can form a coalition, these two parties cannot topple the govt without the Bloc. If the Block votes with the Cons. then you defeat the coalition. The Libs and NDP MUST have the Bloc to stay in power.


shelley
said

Harper blinked! Good for the Canadian public, however, a non confidence vote should still be held, so Harper should be basically muzzled on whether the opposition and its coalition were merely trying to bring down the government because of the political funding. Give it up Harper, you are due to be muzzled for a change. Obviously a minority mandate wasn't enough. Tread very carefully, we have more important issues to deal with at this present time. Oh, where is the massive surplus, thats been lost, and for those who aren't aware of it, it is gone under his governance. Good luck.


Dave from Bowmanville
said

It just goes to show that all this wasn't for our benifit. It was for their own greed. Now since the election brib money is not being cut, the Liberals will back down and go back to the status-quo.


AJ
said

It is too easy for the parties to spout their nonsense with taxpayers money. If they had to seek funding from the electorate they would propose more reasonable and sensible plans. Dion, for example, would not try to force his carbon tax on us. And why are we funding the Bloc which seeks to destroy our country? This makes no sense to me. All politicians need to get their sticky fingers out of the taxpayers' pockets.


Sam
said

The irony is, the Liberals were only invigorated when their own self-serving interests ($$$) were threatened, and only then were they willing to form a coalition; whereas when the taxpayers' interests are threatened, all they did is stand by and be indifferent.


Donald MacDonald, Sydney, N. S.
said

"The old lady" says: If Jack Layton becomes PM [not likely, as most know] most big industries and companies will run like a [sic] Olympic sprinter out of Canada and off shore to make their products." Case in point: It was with Harper as PM that, in 2007, the once large employer, TrentonWorks railcar plant moved to Mexico from its location in , of all places, the riding represented by no less than Harper Cabinet Minister and right-hand man Peter MacKay.


Paul B.
said

Seems a lot of people on here have limited math skills. Yes, if you add up how many votes Libs-Dippers-Greens-Bloc received, it is more than the Conservative's.

Now this is where your math is flawed. Conservative's ran 308 candidates. The wanna-be coalition ran more than 970, so, ya, sure they would receive more votes.

Funny no one used the same argument when the Canadian Alliance and Progressive Coservative's ran in the same elections, getting a combined vote of more than the Liberal's.


Bill
said

A pox on all their houses. They have no concept of what constitutes Canada and will pull us all down with them. Don’t they have any concept of working together???


Sudbury Citizen
said

I've voted Liberal in both of the last 2 "waist of time" elections but I will vote CONSERVATIVE if another election is called. This childish and irresponsible games that the parties are having is costing me and my family and the next generations TOO MUCH money and wasted time. Librals, you lost get over it....and let the Conservative prove their seats.....


MHB
said

I have always believed that our PM practices political bulleying. A typical bulley exploits the weakness of the other side to attack and hit hard. If he is, however, confronted with someone who can challenge him he would immediately back off!. I really hope that the Liberals, NDP, the Bloc will unite to topple this government!.


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