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Date: Tue. Nov. 25 2008 10:06 PM ET
As the economic storm clouds gather, Ottawa plans to curb the pay, bonuses and perks of politicians and top bureaucrats in Thursday's fiscal update, CTV News has learned.
"In this time of belt-tightening, politicians have to be able to demonstrate to people that they are able to do that themselves," Kory Teneycke, the prime minister's communications director, told CTV News on Tuesday.
Sources told CTV News the measures will include:
- Cancellation of a planned three per cent or $4,600 pay hike for MPs who already earn $155,400
- Restricting the use of government challenger jets
- Ending all unnecessary travel and entertainment
- Cutting all business-class travel for cabinet ministers and top civil servants
It's also believed that Finance Minister Jim Flaherty will order spending cuts at Crown corporations and other federal agencies. Insiders say the financial belt-tightening could save Canada tens of millions of dollars each year.
On Tuesday, debate in the House of Commons focused on the way the Conservative government has handled the country's economy in recent months. Flaherty took much of the heat from opposition members on behalf of the absent prime minister.
Stephen Harper, who recently attended the APEC conference in Lima, Peru, this past weekend, was not present during question period.
Flaherty has said that there will be no fiscal stimulus included in the fiscal update, set to be delivered at 4 p.m. on Thursday.
On Tuesday, Flaherty was on the defensive, telling his fellow MPs that the Conservatives made prudent financial moves in recent years that left Canada in a better position than many of its peers.
"Canada is not an island, but fortunately, we are well prepared," Flaherty said Tuesday, noting that the Conservatives had cut taxes and increased spending on infrastructure in the past two years.
But Liberal Leader Stephane Dion said it appeared to him that Prime Minister Stephen Harper had failed to predict the coming recession.
"The prime minister contradicts himself on deficits. He contradicts himself on recessions as well," said Dion, pointing to the prime minister's recent referrals to 'structural' deficits and 'technical' recessions.
"Recessions are not about semantics -- they are about job losses, about Canadians who need help," Dion said.
"Why doesn't the prime minister get it?"
In response, Flaherty said Dion "ought to take the advice of the expert on deficits in his own caucus" -- whom he named as Liberal MP Bob Rae.
Rae served as premier of Ontario during the recession of the early 1990s.
Flaherty quoted Rae as saying that it was "not a reasonable position or an intelligent position to take" that the prime minister was personally to blame for any recent deficit that may have occurred at the federal level.
A few minutes later, Bloc Quebecois Leader Gilles Duceppe returned to the issue of the prime minister not predicting the economic crisis.
"The prime minister said during the election that there would not be a recession, but today he admits that there will be a recession -- and that the recession is right at our door," Duceppe said in French.
"Can the minister explain what was so urgent to call an election because of the economic crisis, whereas now it's not so urgent to take action to deal with the impacts of this crisis?"
Flaherty said "no one in the world was predicting the kind of economic downturn, and the severity and depth of the economic downturn that we've experienced in the last 12 weeks.'
Things also got a little heated during an exchange between the finance minister and Liberal backbencher Yasmin Ratansi, who asked Flaherty about the way he would use "non-core federal assets" to help raise funds for the government.
Flaherty said the government intended to review corporate assets under the expense management program, to determine if individual assets "still fulfill a need for the people of Canada."
The finance minister bristled at a follow-up question from Ratansi, who suggested the finance minister had shown a "lack of fiscal discipline" in doing his job prior to the current economic crisis.
"Fiscal discipline is an oxy moron coming from a Liberal member," Flaherty said, while house members both cheered and jeered.
Think-tank predicts big deficit numbers for Canada
Also on Tuesday, the Ottawa-based Canadian Centre for Policy Alternatives, a left-of-centre research institute, said Canada may see a $46.8 billion deficit in the coming years, if there is a major recession.
That's much bigger than the high end of the parliamentary budget officer's prediction, who said last week that Canada's deficit could be as high as $14 billion as the economy slows in the next two years. Kevin Page put the low end of possible deficits at just below $4 billion.
According to the CCPA, those numbers may be too low.
"A major recession starting in the fourth quarter of 2008 and lasting through 2009 could produce deficits of $1.4 billion in 2008/09, rising to $27.9 billion in 2009/10, and $46.8 billion in 2010/11," said a CCPA press release.
However, it also noted that a mild recession would create:
- a very small deficit in 2008/09, perhaps in the $1.4 billion range
- a $12.6 billion deficit in the following year that would go up to $20.5 billion in 2010 and 2011
The CCPA is calling on Ottawa to take decisive action to curtail the damage from a global economic slowdown.
"The real underlying question now is not whether the federal government should run a deficit but how large the planning deficit for 2009/10 should be," Marc Lee, CCPA senior economist, said in a press release.
"The federal government has a lead role to play in cushioning the impact of a recession, both through federal programs and in partnership with the provinces."
With a report by CTV's Robert Fife in Ottawa and files from The Canadian Press
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I applaud the budget, even though Health Care and education may stay unscathed. Sadly this cannot last and I worry to later this year where cuts will become enviable. If anything, this provides the Wildrose Alliance plenty of ammo when an election is called.


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Reece
said
Heckuva Job, Steve
Shoe
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Now those of you who did, shall see the result of your actions. All of the deficit repayments, will be totally erased, and make the deficit increase.
Jessica
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Dave in Que.
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Steve
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Dick Varley
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Jim
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I will enjoy the goodwill and spirit than accompanies the holidays where we can forget abot spending if only for a few days.
Spending time with family and friends and indulging perhaps just a little on holiday goodies are just what I ordered for my family.
dave
said
Governments have a role to ensure that the effects of an economic slow down are as minimal as possible.
This can be done in a number of ways, such as lowering interest rates, cutting taxes, or increasing government spending.
As far as cutting taxes, and increasing government spending are concerned, a government will do these things in harsh economic times, to "stimulate" the economy by putting more money into it. Governments will INTENTIONALLY run deficits in order to minimize the effects of a recession. A deficit will occur in Canada right now, because the fed's are going to start spending money on things like infrastructure, or bail outs in order to ensure the economy doesn't tank.
I do agree however, that it was irresponsible of Mr. Harper to sqaunder away our surplus in the first place. If your going to cut taxes, you have to cut spending. He did the opposite, and cut taxes, while increasing spending.
RobO
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But if you think about it, it is in the human gene to blame someone else when the crap hits the fan.
I'm concerned about the economy and how this recession is going to effect my family an myself. But I still can't blame the government for the problem.
If we really look at the big picture, do you really think that any of the other parties would be able avoid any recession.
If you actual believe that any party could of stem the tide that has sweep the world, please pass around what you are taking, cause we could all us a little fantasy time right now.
All we can do is hunker down in the bunker and ride this out.
Foxer in Vancouver
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It all adds up to a big difference in the bottom line. Canadian business needs people out spending money and while it may not seem like a huge difference to you, there's more than 20 million taxpayers out there and it makes a big difference in the end.
Jessica - the left gets to scare people into thinking things will be worse, and falsely portray doom and gloom and attempt to blame it on harper.
The fact is as near as we can tell the downturn won't be anywhere near that bad and Canada will suffer far less that most countries. Thank god we're not facing a carbon tax and dion's crazy plan - but they want to hide that fact if they can.
confused?
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AMG - BC
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LF
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steve (Ontario)
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Wayne
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Concerned about Truth from the Top
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More Conservative tough times and high deficits to come, much like the conservative Republicans in the USA.
Gary Newmarket, Ont.
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robert
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MuskyBuck
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The tax cut to 6 percent in the first year, followed to 5 percent this year seemed to me an outright veiled attempt to win votes.
Most wouldn't understand the impact a single percentage point would make to government coffers but on the outside looks like an attempt to lower taxes in Canada.
It's been my opinion that either a country needs the tax amounts they've been collecting or they don't.
In this case, we certainly still did. The carving of the GST down two percentage points amounts to a loss of 11 billion dollars thus far.
What really concerns me is that these two percentage points were being carved at a time when Harper (professed economist) would have seen the impending credit crisis coming in the US.
To win votes, it appears the Harper government cut off their nose to spite their face.
Russ
said
:)
Sahib Reginawale
said
As I read yesterday the civil servants are only getting a pay hike of 6.8% over four years (2.3, 1.5, 1.5, 1.5). Leave those poor civil servants alone. This doesn't even cover the rate of inflation. Those poor guys will have to cut back on their lifestyles.
Dd
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Jim
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I hope the Feds have overdraft protection.
George
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I also agree with Reece; Steve is doing a heck of a job. Enjoy the beer for under the libs you would have to give all of that back as they would jack up your taxes on everything.
As for Flaherty being at the financial helm? Probably better than most and we will not get into a discussion of Bob Rae's performance!!! Or Iggy's green shift - by the way where has that gone now? Must be gone because the libs knew it would increase costs on practically everything one purchased. But maybe they would have eliminated the GST as per the Red Book of 1993 - oh sorry for bringing that lie up again.
amazed at the gullable....
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Larry I Ontario
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After ten long years of outstanding Liberal management the Conservatives will put us in a deeper hole now. Immediate termination of Flaratty is a must as he is nothing more than a clueless clown. Hard times require the very best people and he has to be the worst! Harper stop flying all over the world in useless summits and do something drastic!
jessBABYbrighton;)
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"Oh my word... what is this country coming to?.."
Dale Springham
said
scenario of 3 years away is
not relevant,we have to deal with todays problems,and identify solutions quickly to
offset this irresponsible
journalism,we could end up
with no deficts to worry about,you don't know anymore than I do.
shane prpich
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Mike
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Nancy
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Class of '81
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I don't think that you can blame Harper or Flaherty for this big global downturn, especially in the U.S.
I'd rather have Harper in charge then Bob Rae. I remember Bob Rae when he was premiere and the disaster he created back then, which we are still paying for now.
Mike van Lammeren
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Peter in London
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Governments has become like 16th century France; royalty. It is simply not fair for the private sector workers who are the ones that truly create the country's wealth.
BTW: Those who blame Harper for not keeping taxes high need to take an economics class 101. Canada was and is still overtaxed. Cut socialism and waste. Sooner or later people are going to wake up I hope.
Ken - Calgary
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Jimmyjim
said
I think they are being more realisitc and truthful that Harper. This recession/depression has not found bottom yet, so we may very well call it a depression.
LL- Central Cdn.
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Steve
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Nick in Regina
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Wes
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Trevor
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All this talk of major recessions and huge deficits is going to become a self fulfilling prophecy. The media goes out of their way every day to destroy consumer confidence and spread panic through the markets.
Anyone who thinks that this wouldn't happen if the Libs were in power is dreaming. This problem is worldwide and Canada is being dragged down by it. If anything the 12+ billion a year that has been given back to taxpayers and the funding that has been restored to the provinces has already helped to cushion our fall. Just be glad we aren't dealing with a carbon tax right now!!
Simon Shaw
said
We can blame Steven Harper for erasing the surplus when it was our rainy day fund. It is raining now and we have no umbrella.
Every political party has and will make mistakes. I just hope Steven Harper is big enough of a man to tell the Canadian people that spending our Umbrella fund on useless non existent child care payments was not worth it.
I have two boys who do not use daycare. I got the payments and they now have a 37" LCD on their bedroom wall for educational purposes. Buying the LCD was a mistake. I should have put the money into my own rainy day fund.
Joel in Kamloops
said
That would seem to me to be the big measuring stick. At this point, it sounds like the majority of the world's economies have gone a little sour, and the country that comes through this particular recession the best will be the one that should be praised and studied.
Dave Phillips, Phd.
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Wes
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When oil was increasing everyday, there was a so called expert saying oil could hit $150 a barrel, than another one saying $200 and one actually said it could hit $500.
Like oil at $146 a barrel this summer and now around $50 it just shows that things can turn in an instant.
norm/wawa
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John in Calgary
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If you don't want a deficit, that can be arranged, I'm sure. But say good-bye to everything, decent roads, health care, social programs, everything, you people seem to forget that the deficit is caused by spending to keep those things running.
Trent
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Mark from Brampton
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Thanks Mr. Harper for not starting any new government programs, like a national Childcare!
Phil in Ottawa
said
In essence, said CRA 'forced' lending institutions to lend to less than optimal lendees, ie sub-primer. The rest as they say, is history.
Now, the U.S.government is trying to 'fix' the problem with taxpayers' money. How sweet.
It's unfortunate that Canada, and the ROW for that matter, got caught up in this. But Harper is acting appropriately given the cards he's been handed. If throwng tons of money at jobs actually created jobs, then we'd have had close to full employment for years. Didn't happen, did it.
Bewildered in Toronto
said
Some folks are just in this to harpoon the PM... even though it does make them seem as brainwashed dullards.
It's a hard rain gonna fall and many will get, at least, a little damp.
Plan for better days.
nc
said
If the feds help Ontario. They have to help the other provinces who are in need of help.
The wheel keeps on spinning until we are on the way to wealth again. Round and round we go.
Kris D
said
Look, nobody is saying Harper caused this mess. What they're saying is that Paul Martin had our financial house in stellar shape. Strongest finances in the world.
We were running 12 billion dollar surpluses in case something bad happened and we needed some cushion room.
In 2 years it's all been squandered. It was not necessary for Harper and Flaherty to waste the entire surplus. They could have cut INCOME taxes a little for everyone and still have had that cushion for a rainy day.
Because let me tell you, it's pouring right now and we're in no position to do anything but do into a big deficit. This, after last month’s election where the Cons said, we’ll never go into deficit and Canada is fine.
Heckuva job is right. I think Jim Flaherty is “technically” incompetent.
Whoever runs a deficit doesn't get my vote
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Having said this, I am a proud card carrying conservative and I think that there is absolutely no excuse for a deficit, no matter what the circumstances. My interest in politics was sparked my Preston Manning and the Reform Party, because the Reform Party was a fiscally conservative group of people who were fed up with big government and even bigger deficits.
I own a successful business and the reason it is successful is because of smart money management and never spending above our means. I'm not expecting anything from any government that I'm not expecting from myself.
Should this, or any government, go into deficit, they will not have my support when the next election is called.
Matty
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Vlad Brecka Wetaskiwin, AB
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FrankCanadian
said
After predictions that oil would hit $150 last summer and move to $200 and beyond at year's end without even a mention of the crash of the last few months, lowers the credibility of futurist predictions to zero.
Sure there may be a deficit. And the Canadiens may win the Cup. And this winter may be really mild.
Expert economic predictions are as accurate as sports writers forecasting the outcome of the Grey Cup. Pretty much near zero, I'd say.
I'd rather listen to the weatherman, er, weatherperson make wrong predictions.
edd
said
Oh yea, they do know how to scare the public.
Peter, Hamilton
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Canuck in Bellingham WA
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Everyone reading these comments knows that the tiresome pro liberal anti harper & pro conservative anti liberal whining is not going to change a thing.
Neither the liberals nor the conservatives are responsible for this mess, and neither is going to be complete heroes.
Yes, I have economics 101. I have no problem with a short term annual deficit, if it will temper the effects of a recession. Increase the GST if it gets to large. but spending on infrastructure is never a bad idea. Or do you want the odd bridge falling down like in the US? Its like owning a car. Its not sexy changing the oil like it is buying a new car, but only a moron doesn't spend the money they need to on it.
Joe Sanity
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J.C.
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As far as this think tank is concerned,it means nothing. It is only guess and by golly. We must wait it out to see what will be and not get ourselves all worked up over some opinions!! And yes folks, that's what it is - Someone's opinion.There are many others that have a different opinion.
Only time will tell what will be.
Paul
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Jjaycee98
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The parrots keep spouting the catch phrases and the negative trash talk. Those who just want to see their name in print toss out these articles as if they actually knew what they are talking about.
Jonathan
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WE WANT GOVERNMENT TO START LAYING OFF NON ESSENTIAL GOVERNMENT WORKERS UNTIL THE ECONOMY IS BACK ON TRACK. DEFICITS SHOULD BE KEPT TO A MINIMUM.
You must realize that if government cuts back on spending, and lays people off it will only make the situation worse. More unemployed people who can not afford to spend, it creates a downward spiral that will be very hard to get out of. People just don't get it. A responsible government (Liberal, Conservative or otherwise) should invest in projects that keep people working. When the good times return they should be quick to act to cut back then and pay down any debt accumulated.
Tony
said
We got a 2% reduction in our GST that we pay. For all those who want to bash him for not having the surplus, ask yourself one question.
Would you rather the GST still be at 7%?
You should know that the extra money that you have in your jeans amounts to want England is about to do and what the US will do through their stimulus package.
Except we are way ahead of them with our GST cut, and many of you don't even realize it.
Bluenose
said
We see Obama elected in the US, and is now making movement towards far more spending than he said, so why are the lefties not complaining about that? If Liberals had of been elected, the problem would become even more serious here, with their nut case programs they proposed. Oh, right, I get it, Harper caused this whole world meltdown himself? It's obvious a new generation of people have completely lost touch with reality and common sense.
CWS Saskatoon
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SK Man
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Brian in Edmonton
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Roland Godin
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After he has directed us out of this mess I am sure he would return the stewardship to the federalist. Pride will not get us out of this one.
Alex (Toronto)
said
One is sympathetic to Premier Campbell's request for help, but his analysis is wrong. The commodity sectors don't have the same problem as the manufacturing sectors. What British Columbia needs is free trade in lumber. The US protectionist regime that Harper sold us out to is what is hurting the BC lumber industry. We need a government that can work productively and positively with the Americans in Canada's interest, i.e. without bowing down to one-sided agreements with the Americans. By contrast, the manufacturers need finance for their customers and suppliers. What's hurting them is the collapse of credit.
Big Mike
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Tim
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John E
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Louisa
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Mel from Calgary
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If he wants to cut spending then shut down operation photo-op in Afganistan.
At the recent conservative convention in Winnipeg he said the conservatives were going to be "pragmatic"...after almost three years it is about time.
Josh from Ontario
said
John: “oh I get it. no matter what, run a surplus.”
Joe: “That’s right, so let’s slash about 25 billion from health care and about another 20 billion from other transfers to provinces. oh, and lets reduce the civil service by 10%. that should get us to avoid a deficit, right?”
John: oh!, but the lefties would complain! they would cry up and down.”
Jack: “Not so, because Chretien did it in the 90's, and no one seemed to care.”
Joseph: “or is it they didn’t care because a LIBERAL did it. that makes it okay, right?
Jack: “Right, and it is also okay if a liberal runs a deficit, but heaven forbid that a conservative runs one.”
Josh: "so wait, trudeau ran up a huge deficit and got us big into debt, and no one cared, but mulroney was blamed for it. and chretien slashed billions from healthcare and mike harris was blamed for it. so, its only natural that Harper be blamed for this global recession he's getting us into a deficit over, right?"
Everyone: "right!"
TimT
said
Yes we -know- Harper didn't cause the global economic meltdown. For the love of god please get a grip!
It's all about how it is handled. Just about every economist disagreed with the gst cuts, and for good reason. It hasn't done much other than put a bigger hole in government dollars that could be better used in these times. But clearly, Harper was all about buying votes, not positioning the country to weather harsh economic times.
It's really too bad that after years of belt tightening to turn the finances back to sanity, Harper in a few short years squandered it stupidly. Now would be the time to leverage the well earned surplus in much smarter ways than idiotic vote buying gst cuts, and massive fistfuls of cash to corporations.
Absolutely brainless.
Shelley (South of Calgary)
said
Give the people and families the "bailout" money, we can spend it paying off our debts, and being consumers, wich will stimulate our economy, businesses will see higher consumer confidence, and the economy will right itself!!!
hk
said
All you people blaming the Harper government for a WORLD recession should GIVE THEIR HEADS A SHAKE. I’m surprised these same idiots have not blamed Obama, but I suppose that will happen a day after he is formally sworn in as President of the USA in January.
I’m personally not happy with the state of affairs our country got dragged into and am also losing money on my retirement savings, but I will not let myself become as negative as most of these bloggers. There will be better days ahead. I will just have to ride out this storm the same as all the others in the past.
Raymond
said
Harper cut the GST because Canadians were being over-taxed to the tune of $10B/year.
Live with it.
Gary
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L in Calgary
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blc ontario
said
How can these people predict what the deficit will be 3 years in advance?
Here's a suggestion let's all stop watching the news, buying newspapers, magazines until the media learns to report facts not what if's or maybes. No one knows how this economic downturn is all going to roll out.
Maybe we should get some psychic opinions they are probably more credible than a lot of the opinion givers with political bias.
Jay
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Let us consider the source of this so-called study before we flaunt it. If the Fraser Institute did a study and said "no deficit" you lefties would be screaming bloody murder against it and telling us all to look at the source of the information.
The grand result of all this? Everyone has a crystal ball. No one knows what the future may bring. But the numbers this study flaunts shows that no reversal of tax cuts (or Harper's PROMISE KEEPING) would have prevented this.
K D
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David Dunlop
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Gail (Hamilton)
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Lloyd Cam
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Trevor
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"I really wish those of you over on the right wing would PAY ATTENTION. We are not blaming Harper for the global economic crisis, we are blaming him because A) He claims to have seen this coming for many years"
Actually they did say this was coming a long time ago and have been introducing stimulus to the economy for a couple of years now.
"and B) Instead of taking REAL action, he literally THREW the surplus away on cuts to consumption tax (which every ACTUAL ECONOMIST on planet earth warned Harper is a stupid idea)"
Actually a cut in consumption taxes encourages people to spend money in order to see the savings. Hiding money under the mattress isn't going to help the economy. Don't forget that the GST cut was an election promise, I'm sure you would have pointed out the broken promise if they hadn't cut it. As for the part about EVERY economist, come on.
"and cuts to his rich coporate friends."
The tax cuts and provincial transfers that were introduced helped every Canadian, rich or poor. Harper isn't a rich man, unlike former Liberal PM's.
"The revenue from these stupid votebuying cuts literally could have staved off a deficit, but instead, he's gone the way that every Conservative government in Canadian history has gone - into the Red."
As I said earlier, if the government hadn't returned the 12+ billion dollars to taxpayers we would probably already be in a worse position. The government has been proactive about this situation. Besides, according to this report it still wouldn't have been enough to avoid deficit.
"Now please, righties - pay attention to what is said and stop spinning our words. Leave that to Harper."
Form your opinions based on facts and maybe people won't dispute them.
zwinky
said
There's nothing wrong per se with any tax reduction that is "universal" but do the math and you'll see how the GST cut is a tax savings that doesn't amount to a hill of beans for most regular people over the course of time.
Here's the simple mathematical facts:
You need to spend $50000 on GSTable goods to achieve $1000 of GST saved.
($50000 * .07 = $3500)
($50000 * .05 = $2500)
net GST saved $1000
$1000 is a good chunk of money and no one would ever turn it down but LOOK AT HOW MUCH YOU HAVE TO SPEND TO GET THAT $1000 in GST savings... this is the key that eludes many less wealthy proponents of the GST cut - they will never see a significant savings over time.
For everyone who hollers that they know a regular guy who saved big on a vehicle purchase think about the fact that regular people usually purchase a vehicle only every 5 to 10 years or more and thus their large one time GST savings is diluted over that period.
You can bet that for every wealthy person who saves mega bucks on some big ticket luxury purchase there are hundreds of thousands or even millions of people who, like myself, save 13 cents once a month on toilet paper and can't exactly cheer that the GST cut gave us any significant savings.
It's the wealthy guy who can spend regularly on big luxuries that saves the most GST...simple math.
I've always thought that Conservatives are most concerned about serving the wealthy and the GST cut was proof enough for me.
Grow up, get over it, and build a farm
said
If you all didn't believe in this Consumerism market, we wouldn't be worrying about money, etc.
Oh and by the way; 21% have spelling mistakes; where the hell did you get away with a diploma?!?
Joe Sanity
said
Nope, brought to you by George , Dick and the GOP gang who though it was a good idea to deregulate the banking system.
Corey in Manitoba
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John not going to listen to fortune tellers
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In the red
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I hope Canada has overdraft protection.
K D
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Seth in Alberta
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Did I get that right? Because that's what I've been reading.
And you think that Harper cutting taxes and bad programs (let's face it if you're a good artist you don't need funding) is bad for the economy because more money in peoples pockets???(scratching head)....this is the part I get confused by your thinking because according to you this is a bad thing.
Really if you feel that strongly about it, take 2% of everything you spend and send it to the government, if we get more tax cuts send a letter saying that you don't agree with this and that you wish to continue to be taxed; in fact state in that letter that you wish for your personel taxes to be even higher. You don't want to run a deficit so please stop using the programs that a deficit keeps running (police, fire, ambulance, hospitals, etc.). Only take gravel roads to work because without a deficit that's what our roads would start to amount to.
If you feel that strongly about it this should not be an issue.
Lowell
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Scott
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Prof. Pye Chartt
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Remember to breathe as you incessantly ramble on about how PM Harper hoodwinked the Canadian electorate and is now going to kill us all with his lies, deception, and wacky budgetary/fiscal policies. You're going to give yourselves a heart attack!
Instead of wigging out over the biased prognostications of an acknowledged left-wing "think tank" (perhaps an oxymoron), try sticking to the global economic facts as they relate to your country, as we presently sit in a better seat than any other nation.
Given that Liberal Leader Dion got creamed in the RECENT election, it's probably advisable to dial down the whiny partisan rhetoric.
It's unhealthy...and pointless.
Gary
said
We have a chance to invest in green tech. With the manufacturing industry in Ont. collasping the gov't could invest in building green technology that the world would buy. But that will never happen. Harper and his ilk have no vision whatsoever. We will simply watch the rest of the world walk right by us again.
PrairieDog
said
or..maybe the people of Canada realize that they have a government that lowers taxes, helps small businesses, helps trade-people, .....
My bet is on the latter...I think people should look beyond their own back yards and see that we have it better here than most any on the planet. Wake UP!!
Edmonton John
said
Chretien and Martin made huge strides paying down the debt with the 'surplus' - and yes, some people shamefully got sticky fingers, but that was then and it's been dealt with - and since Harper got in, he has continued to pay down the debt.
If he had kept the GST he could have paid the debt down faster if the economy continued to fare well, otherwise use it now to help stimulate the economy, or do what the UK is doing and cut taxes as we approach a recession.
As it is we have no option but to run up our debt again, and now we have lost the means to repay it. We will have to restore the GST when the dust settles.
The bottom line is that the Liberals did not overtax us. They taxed us just the right amount to keep the economy growing, and the debt shrinking, with enough left over for a rainy day.
Now THAT is fiscal management!
James - Eh!
said
Harper and Flaherty didn't give us the real sitaution in the election. No contest.
Unfortunately, they are the current government but until the next election, its time to leave the barbs behind and get on with coming up with solutions.
Jen,BC
said
Peter Daga
said
we are suffering through:- increased Property taxes, increased hydro rates, incresed vehicle ownership costs, increased garbage collection costs. Job opportunities have shrunk and continue to shrink. Most of us have no job security, are unemployed or underemployed. Jobs in the construction field are "limited".
Allan M
said
I think the Liberals have a responsibility to take down the government and hold a new election now, before the Conservatives can do any more damage. I know we just had one, but the damage done to Canada's financial situation thus far is clear indication that it's going to continue or get worse. We just had an election, but the extreme circumstances that would dictate another one being needed so soon are obvious. Enough is enough.
Dion: If you're ever going to have some guts, now would be good. Throw the bums out!
Michael Kennedy
said
Bob Beausoleil - Ontario
said
In any solution, one works on the basis it will not be as bad as people think then if more money or action needs to be taken that action can follow.
Grow up gentlemen and do your jobs in a constructive and positive manner.