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Date: Wed. Nov. 12 2008 9:49 PM ET

The head of the Canadian army in Afghanistan accused the Taliban of acting in "desperation" after a grisly acid attack by unidentified men on a group of schoolgirls and a suicide bombing that killed six people.

Two men on a motorcycle hurled acid at a group of eight Afghanistan school girls Wednesday in a shocking attack that is making headlines around the world.

The girls were walking to Mirwais Minna Girl's School in broad daylight in Kandahar when the attack occurred.

"The men on a motorbike were apparently unarmed but nobody stopped them," The Globe and Mail's Graeme Smith reported Wednesday from Kandahar Air Field.

Three of the eight girls were hospitalized with serious burns and others have been treated and released. U.S. military spokesmen said at least two of the girls still in hospital were blinded.

Two girls who were wearing full-length burkas were not harmed.

Video of two of the badly burned girls shows them both in a state of shock, with one barely able to open her eyes.

"This beautiful brown eyed girl will never see again," Smith told CTV Newsnet.

Lt.-Gen. Andrew Leslie, head of the Canadian army, said the Taliban is reverting back to the "pure terror tactics" that was more commons a few years back. "For a while they tried to take us on... now they're going back to terrorizing their own population," said Leslie.

Bibi Athifa, one of the girls who suffered acid burns to her face, said she and her friends were walking to school when two armed gunmen on a motorbike stopped.

"One guy squirted acid from a bottle on us," she said. "Nobody warned us. Nobody threatened us. We don't have any enemies," she said.

During the Taliban's rule, between 1996 to 2001, girls were banned from schools. They were also not allowed to leave their home without a male family escort.

Bibi Meryam, the aunt of a 14-year-old victim, said the family had not received any threats prior to the attack. However, she said she's considering keeping her girls at home until the security situation stabilizes in the country.

"They acknowledged that they might be waiting a very long time because security is not improving and they know that the move is shifting in Kandahar," Smith said.

Afghanistan's government also condemned the attack, calling it un-Islamic and perpetrated by the "country's enemies," a usual reference used to describe the Taliban.

"By such actions, they cannot prevent six million children going to school," the government said in a statement.

Taliban spokesman Qari Yousef Ahmadi has denied that the insurgents were involved.

Bomb attack kills six

Meanwhile, at least six people are dead following a suicide attack outside an Afghan government office in Kandahar city on Wednesday, officials have confirmed.

The bomber, driving an oil tanker, detonated his explosives outside the building during a provincial council meeting.

Canadian soldiers were at the site when the blast occurred but there are no reports that any of them were injured.

Rahmatullah Raufi, the governor of Kandahar province, said two intelligence agents, a police officer and three civilians were killed in the blast.

Another 42 people were wounded following the blast, which flattened five nearby homes and damaged offices.

Raufi blamed the Taliban for the attack.

"The Taliban want to disrupt law and order in Kandahar," said Raufi.

Smith said the attack took place in a neighbourhood where the former head of the Afghan intelligence service has a house.

"One of his brothers was killed, another one was injured," said Smith.

"Although the victims were civilians they were civilians closely associated with the government and in this kind of a counter-insurgency that's seen as a legitimate target."

Canada's Ambassador to Afghanistan Ron Hoffman condemned the bomb attack on Wednesday.

"I think what it signifies for us is the paradoxical situation in Afghanistan where in some senses there is a deterioration of the situation with the stronger insurgency and a more determined insurgency over the last year or so," Hoffman told CTV's Canada AM on Wednesday.

"But there's also a continued progress and, in some cases, an acceleration of progress in other areas."

With files from The Associated Press

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John
said

Throwing acid on school girls. Sounds like they want to "negotiate", doesn't it? This crazy fundamentalism is exactly why we must stabilize the area. Canada doesn't want to change the people or conquer Ahghanistan (arguably can't be done anyway) but let them be able to live their lives. People ought to do a little real research before forming an opinion. Investiagating the UN resoltions with respect to the Taliban and Afghan is an excellent place to start.


Jeremy
said

Increase our forces if needed in Afghanistan. Obama will also be pushing to send more troops there. This crazy stuff has to be put to an end. The whole international community has to send troops there. Make it work!
Let girls go to school, that's why we're there, it's a worthy cause.




Paul in SK
said

Why are we pulling out of Afghanistan?


Dave NS
said

Tell this to the peaceniks who want us out of there, maybe this will shut them up long enough to let us get the job done.


Reece
said

In every society whether it's a 3rd world country or a 1st world system, an educated population is what poses the greatest threat to belligerent governments. The Taliban is about control and they exploit religion to control the population especially where the population lacks education and critical-thinking. It's absolutely important to throw everything into education to the new generation so they can open their minds and resist those that want to destroy them.

The first thing the Taliban did when they came into power is to destroy the schools...they are not stupid, perhaps evil but they know what they are doing. ANY government, including ours, that does not fund it's school systems or make education affordable is a threat to us.


Bob H fr Petawawa
said

I agree with John, Jeremy and Paul. Pull the troops out? Can the people who say to talk to these people really believe that it will help? NOT! I wonder if they would love to live under these conditions? NOT!! Would they like their little girls to have to live under these conditions? NOT!!
Unfortunately but a fact of life, this is the reason why wars are fought, to preserve what they have here in the "Safe World" today. "Talaban Jack" Let's talk with the Talaban, Yeh right!!!!!!!!


Sma Nom Mike d.
said

I agree with you Bob, and I would have to say lets send Taliban Jack over to negogiate with them anyways, than we will finally find out the truth. Acid on school girls is horrendous, lets stay until they are all gone.


Proud of our troops
said

Just another reminder as to why we (Canada) are there. What kind of sick person would throw acid on schoolgirls for wanting an education.

It is hard to "negotiate" peace with extremists like these.

To the troops overseas, keep up the great work knowing that Canadians are proud.


Lost Cause
said

...It sickens me that a disgusting attack like this is used to try and associate people who are against endless combat missions in Afghanistan with the attacks, as we're "for" them. These attacks have absolutely zero to do with us - they are a part of the rotten Islamic fundamentalist culture that exists in Afghanistan.

... Afghan President Karzai (our guy) pardoned three men who had been found guilty of a public bayonet gang rape? That was in August of this year. Just a couple of weeks ago the US (our friends) bombed another wedding party killing 40, most of them women and children.

... We're propping up a culture that is oppressive to women! There's no getting around it! Unfortunately, given the fundamentalism we're aligning with, the best we can hope for is a cessation of fighting and some kind of arrangement made between the factions that live there. Once that happens maybe we can have some kind of internationally sanctioned human rights watch in place over the Afghan administration to try and help ensure that such horrific crimes are minimized and punished harshly.

However, if we really want to help the women of Afghanistan we should stop aligning ourselves with a regime that oppresses them.


A MOTHER IN TORONTO
said

What is going on with these people we go there to help them and bang they attack our soldiers and are distrupting all the good we are doing for the people of Afghanastan not to meniton the wrong they are doing to their own people. The Taliban is an extremist group like the skin head here and if they think they will win they are wrong. I am behind all the army personel tha is helping these poor people and job well done everybody.

Allan Eizinas
said

We are already “getting the job done”.

The indiscriminate American bombing that is killing civilians is pushing the neutrals towards the Taliban. The Taliban is winning by not losing and we are continuing to be told that “things are going well”. Things have been “going well” for 6 years and now there are attacks in Kandahar and Kabul.

Things are going to hell in a handbasket in that bloody Afghanistan human meat grinder and we still have the hometown cowboys and some military zealots telling us that “things are going well”. Things went well in Vietnam right until that last helicopter left the roof of the embassy building.

Time to declare victory and go home – just like in Vietnam!



Edmonton John
said

In the run-up to Desert Storm, public support for military action against Iraq was mobilized by stories of Iraqi soldiers dumping babies out of incubators in Kuwait. Of course, this never happened, it was just propaganda - seriously, that's been proved since.

Here we have another knee-jerk response to a brutal and horrible crime against defenseless and vulnerable young people. The result is predictable - calls for more military involvement. This is why such stories, real and fabricated, are circulated in the media - as part of the propaganda war.

The bigger story is that we blithely accept acid attacks on people all the time and do nothing or care little. This practice, and worse, has been going on for a long time in a number of countries, even Canada.

It is a shame that such attacks take place, and it is the height of cowardice on the part of the attackers. However, this no more warrants increased or prolonged military action than does the genocide in Darfur and innumerable other despicable acts of cowardice all around the planet every hour.

We have to use our heads before responding, and we have to respond proportionately. And we have to remain skeptical. Turning such events into an excuse to attack a politician or to undermine a process that might work as an addition to, if not a replacement for military force, is not an appropriate response.


Dave NS
said

This is not a knee-jerk reaction. This HAPPENS. Ask any of our soldiers who return from Afghanistan the kind of crap that the Taleban inflict on their own people. It's not propaganda, it's reality. You don't know the crap that goes on over there, THEY do. Could you live with the abuse and maltreatment of women and children in Afghanistan on your shoulders if we cut and run?


David in Ontario
said

This comment is for "Lost Cause", "Allan Eizinas" and "Edmonton John". I can tell you that when Americans bomb, it is not indiscriminate, this story is very true, and the "radical" behaviour that you attribute to all of Islam is fallacious. The fact is that the Taliban are brutes, even by medieval standards.
... As for the "wedding bombing", investigations are showing that the Taliban used those people as human shields. Had the US forces known that those civilians were there, they would not have bombed. Trust me.


montreal
said

after what happened today with those tow young innocent girls ,THERE SHOULDN'T BE any words of negotiations with the taliban

but i still wonder if the NATO or afghan government would negociate!!!!!!




Howard in Calgary
said

For the life of me I can't understand the thought process of these cowards. They'd be better off leaving the civilians alone to try to drive a wedge between the Afghan gov't/NATO and the civilians, but instead they attack the civilians.

Apparently it's just so unimaginable that a woman could be the equal of a man, that they can't resist attacking teenage girls trying to educate themselves. This form of militant Islam must be fought the same way our grandparents fought Nazism. It is a scourge against humankind.

To follow "David in Ontario", if I recall the story correctly the wedding was underway in the village when dozens of Taliban stormed into the village and engaged NATO/US aircraft, which drew their return fire.

It seems to certainly have been the intent of the Taliban to lure the attacks into the midst of the wedding party.

Despicable, but typical.


Lost Cause
said

David in Ontario - does it really surprise you that the US is trying to blame its mistaken airstrikes on someone else? Who do you think the anger from those airstrikes is directed at? Here's a quote from another CTV story:

"Although Canadian troops have not been involved in incidents involving large numbers of civilian casualties, many Afghans do not differentiate between foreign forces and consider all equally guilty."

The blame game isn't working. The Taliban is inflicting damage on these people. The coalition forces are inflicting damage on these people at almost the same rate. You're right that not all of Islam is oppressive, but the type we're propping up in Afghanistan is. Did you miss that point I made about Karzai pardoning men convicting of a public bayonet gang rape?

Would you let your wife or daughter be integrated into that culture even under Karzai?


Peter, Hamilton
said

Is it time for Canada to reconsider pulling out it's troops from Afghanistan in 2011? If this cruel incident is indicative of what life will/would be under the Taliban and their supporters then perhaps Canada should stay. President-elect Obama has thought carefully about the situation in this country and plans to commit more troops. Canada should follow his lead.


DISGUSTED
said

As long as the Western World continues to fight these ......animals under the strict Marcus of Queensbury Rules, there will be no end to their attrocities. Isn't it about time that the gloves come off and we fight fire with fire and to hell with the RULES that the other side OBVIOUSLY has no intention of ever following. YES, there has to be rules when soldiers are fighting soldiers, but animals that throw acid in the faces of young girls and strap bombs onto mentally handicapped women should NOT even be classified as human let alone soldiers. And NO this DOES NOT bring us down to their level.


Keith, Halifax
said

I would be all for an even larger commitment by NATO to rid Afghanistan of the Taliban if it would actually work. But the Taliban cannot be defeated by military means because they can blend in and out of the general population at will. The only thing that will defeat the Taliban is the collective will of the women of Afghanistan. Some day they will muster this will but in the mean time we have to accept that fact there is nothing we can do about it and get out of there. We can act on specific terrorists threats within Afghanistan but changing the country has to come from within.


Aimée Holla
said

It is easy to see why people will attack children, especially girls going to school, if they create enough fear then people will stop educating their children. Education is the one thing that terrorists fear, because educated people will no longer be controlled by extremism. Educating girls and the boys provides a brighter future and a future free of control by fear. This tactic has been around for many years, how do you think Hitler gained control of Germany. Not educating people or controlling the access to education creates many problems.

This reminds people of why are troops are in Afghanistan and I hope they stay until the job is finished. Thank you and keep on going!


Nick in Ottawa
said

Who still thinks we need to leave Afghanistan? OR should we do some peacekeeping in Afghanistan and watch the girls get doused in acid with NO mandate to intervene?

Think about it


Vancouver Jim
said

For "lost cause" As usual the left wingers live in a world where reality escapes them. Durring wars civilians die, the government in place though far from perfect is the first democratically elected government and is certainly better than the alternative. How many civilians would die if the taliban were allowed to return to power. It always astounds me when left wing supporters of human and especially womans rights find some excuse to appose putting a stop to regimes like the taliban and the thrid riech. When in doubt spread half truths and blame the Americans.


M. H. in Ottawa
said

Wow - these are the type of people we really should be negotiating with... To all those proponents of "cut-and-run" this is why we are there; if we leave these bullies will force their way into power again and terrorize these poor people all over again...


Shamaro
said

Well, this certainly shows that the Taliban want to compromise and begin talking with us about peace.

We should send Mr. Layton over there to give them a good verbal scolding and lecture. I'm sure this would change their hearts and minds.

This mindless act of violence against these girls is sickening to say the least and makes me now even believe that we here in Canada must do even more to stop the violence and inequality against women in this country.

If we were to leave that country today, the Taliban would fight hard and would eventually take back contol of Afghanistan and all these women would have to go back to living a life of abuse and inequality yet once again.


GWinnipeg
said

We're pulling out of Afghanistan because it's "unwinnable" - the same reason the Soviets pulled out after 15 years.

It is impossible to bring "peace" to a region full of som many different ethnicities. Much of the latest violence is atributed to warlords operating in the regions that they were able to go back to terrorizing after the Taliban withdrew. Before the state was under Taliban control, the warlords ruled. When the Taliban had power, these warlords had none. Of course, the media reports these "warlords" as "Tribal Leaders".

This is way more complicated than the average Canadian believes and an end in the near future is not possible.


Doug BC
said

"Would you let your wife or daughter be integrated into that culture"?? The obvious answer is "NO".But apparently there are many who don't reconize that some of us don't think that the wives and daughters of the people of Afghanistan don't deserve that either.Just as the people of Europe didn't deserve the treatment they received by the Nazis.
I think it's fair game to debate whether or not we will be able to help these people.But surely no one is still questioning their need for help.And,if not us,the who will help?
This is tough.It will continue to be tough for a long time.A whole generation needs to be educated before the people of Afghanistan will be able to provide most of their own defense against these criminals.
Can we succeed? Should we quit if the going gets to tough? Should we quit because it's none of our business? Or maybe because some think we should send our troops to Africa? What if that situation is just as tough?
Personally,unlike some regular posters here,I don't have all the answers.But it seems clear,whatever our final strategy,that we will need a lot more accurate information,AND be able to explain our decision,and ennunciate a policy that spells out Canada's position on international aid.
Easy jobs? Tough job? No jobs at all?? Or just talk about human rights hoping someone else will fix them.
Difficult decisions for a nation that has trouble with any decision on anything.


Raj
said

Whomever finds themselves governing in 2011, I hope they reconsider leaving Afghanistan. So as long as Mr. Obama and the rest of NATO steps up to actually take some action, I am for our troops being there. This is what we would call a Responsibility to Protect. Albeit, a lot of things happen to children in this country that shouldn't happen but the systematic oppression of women in that country must end.


Old Vet
said

Many here are outraged by what the Taliban continues to do and that's good.

However, just a day or two ago, there was a report on the news about the sad shape the Canadian Armed Forces are in. They are short of personnel, equipment is worn out and they need a break from war because the personnel are being rotated in and our of Afghanistan in a continuing loop. If you really do believe that we need to do more in Afghanistan write to your politicians and maybe even volunteer for the armed forces and really step up to the plate.


Bob from Alberta
said

As a recent service member who just returned from Afghanistan, "David in Ontario" is right on the money. Anyone who says the Americans indiscriminately bomb is just plain misinformed. Sorry to burst your bubbles, but the Americans aren't a bunch of gun happy yahoos. Blame the Taliban for hiding behind human shields, and not the Americans for not knowing everything that goes on in the country.

You people expect the impossible from us and the Americans.

The acid attack does not surprise me in the least. These are vicious people we're dealing with, and they will do absolutely anything to get their country back.


Canadian Soldier
said

This type of civilian terrorizing is the exact kind of thing I have been talking about here for a while. I have been there twice now and it has been made abundantly clear that the Taliban will not budge on their extremely repressive ideology. They do not want girls going to school. They do not respect women at all, never have, and never will if left to their own devices.

Here in Canada we have political parties who "claim" to support and fight for womens rights and yet they insist that we pull out of Afghanistan at the earliest possible convinience. I guess according to the NDP, and certain liberals the women of Afghanistan are second class citizens not worthy of the same rights and opportunities that our women enjoy here. I appologize for the partisanship here but this kind of abusive treatment is extremely frustrating, but what is more frustrating to me is a population that would rather look the other way.

I for one, cannot wait for my third trip there so we can continue taking the fight to the Taliban. Let those cowards come and fight us and leave the girls alone.


For Allan Eizinas
said

Hey Allan, you've opened your mouth and proven yourself ignorant to the situation in Afghanistan. I would love to have a face to face talk with you. First, there are so many checks and balances during a "bombing" mission it would blow your mind. The missions are far from "indiscriminate" as you describe them! I know this because that was my job in Afghanistan. Second, who do you think those American bombs are supporting? They support our pink bodied Canadians. Third, things are going well. If you had the courage to go to Afghanistan, you would know this to be true. And finally, do us all a favour and be quiet until you know what you're talking about.

Prof. Pye Chartt
said

@ The Appeasers & The Pacifists:

It never ceases to amuse me (and others with a sense of irony) that the same left-wing coconuts who oppose ANY type of military involvement ANYWHERE, at ANYTIME, for ANY REASON, are always the very same self-righteous folks who jump out of their seat, with their arms flailing, when their political paranoia gets the best of them and they perceive a threat to their freedom, free speech, and/or social justice (socioeconomic welfare) by corporations and/or conservative governments.

They're always concerned about "humanity" when it selfishly enshrines them or one of their socialist causes.

When the self-professed sensitive and caring souls of the world simply want to sit back and let their fellow citizens of the planet deal with oppression, injustice, genocide, and the overriding absence of social, political and economic freedom without able assistance, it's something to behold.

It must be nice to sit behind a computer, and believe that everything that goes on in the world poses no threat to your way of life; that Canada is an island of moral independence and self-fulfillment.


MuskyBuck
said

My heart goes out to these girls.
My thoughts are with the family of the slain Afghanistan woman who was in the police who was assassinated earlier this year.

My resolve only deepens when this happens.

There is hatred and racism the world over.

It exists even on these posts...time and again I've read people who are afraid and believe their life is being threatened by 'gay marriage'.

To all of you that endure this illogical hatred of skin color, sexual persuasion, religious beliefs or sexual orientation, I commend you.

You have my heart and my pledge to fight this cowardly thinking wherever I may be.

Pat_from_Mississauga
said

Disgusting! We've been in Afghanistan for 6 years and this still goes on. Obviously, we are not getting the job done; we will never get the job done: in fact, the job was never ours to do! Lets get out of this mess now!


nc in alberta
said

Unfortunately, if unarmed, these were not likely organized Taliban terrorists.

More likely they are simply men who are the inevitable product of a society that does not now and never has believed that women or girls are worthy of any rights.

For all you people assuming that a military victory in this backwards country will result in the girls and women gaining their freedom, remember that this attitude toward women prevails among most Afghan men and is not just held by active Taliban members.

Unlike the civilized democracies that we aided in defeating facism during WWII, Afghanistan has no history of being a nation that understands freedom or basic human rights.

While there is a place for military effort, the solution to the lack of human rights in this country will be much more complex than simply "beating the Taliban" and we need to put more effort in that direction rather than just focusing on miltary operations.

The biggest problem we have in helping Afghanistan is in changing the attitude of an entire population when it comes to allowing basic freedom for all individuals.


Steve in PEI
said

The Taliban denied involvement in the acid attack. Insofar as they are a unified group which can have a coherent voice, if they had meant this attack to advance their political goals they would have taken responsibility for it. It must be remembered that the Taliban represents a spectrum of groups and fundamentalist Islamic ideologies as an umbrella for the ethnic Pashtun resistance movement. As a whole, like any insurgancy, the Taliban is brutal but it is not stupid and the things they do have rational goals.

A more credible scenario is that fringe extremists who may or may not even be associated with the Taliban and almost certainly weren't acting on any orders from recognised Taliban leaders did this to obtain exactly the reaction we see on this forum - a hardening of attitudes towards the Taliban as a whole on the part of Westerners and their Afghan allies in order to sabotage any potential negotiation. It's exactly parallel to the "Real IRA" in Northern Ireland, who held on to violence to prevent negotiations that would have forced them to compromise their goals.

We should not be stupid and fall into the trap these fringe extremists are setting. Even the Afghan government recognises the need to talk to the Taliban and so should we.

The Taliban represents the single biggest vehicle for the aspirations of the Pashtun ethnicity, which is Afghanistan's largest. It is not possible to have any kind of stable peace or law and order without more or less bringing the Pashtun leaders on side, and that means talking to the Taliban. If we don't wake up to that reality we could stay in Afghanistan forever and not accomplish a single thing.


Dave
said

The key to success in Afghanistan, is, as with any such battle, is winning the hearts and minds of the people. Same goes for Iraq. The common family has to see some improvement to their quality of life, and their security. The military fight, and the efforts to rebuild have to go hand in hand. NATO Forces do have to get a grip on civillian casualties, even if it means more troops in harm's way. Bombing, no matter how accurate, has to be a last resort. Canada's been doing it's part on the front lines for a long time now, time for the other nations to step up, and get alongside. As for the Gov't of Afghanistan, perhaps they need some strong arming to get with the program. If they want to be lenient with rapists, maybe they don't need our personal security forces in front of their homes. Whatever the case, make no bones about it. You can't negotiate with someone who's most base beliefs are the iradication of anyone who doesn't follow their ideology. Oh, and good to see the media reporting this, how about some more on what good is going on over there. It's not all about body counts, I have a lot of comrades over there doing great work, so let the public hear about it!
Dave Halifax


Lost Cause
said

A very important detail in this story has been overlooked by the knee-jerk "kill them all" crowd.

Where in the article does it say that the Taliban did this? The only one who made a comment insinuating that connection was the Canadian Military official. Karzai's regime didn't specifically name the Taliban. No one has been caught or charged yet. The gunmen who threw the acid were unarmed but nobody stopped them. This is all rather peculiar.

The Taliban spokesman said they didn't do it. With all this rhetoric spewing forth about how barbaric and scummy and ruthless the Taliban are, why would they not take credit for this atrocious attack? Women were brutally assaulted. That's up their alley so why not take the credit.

It could have been the Taliban. But this could yet turn out to be just an act born of common brutal Afghan misogyny and backward thinking, the very thing I'm trying to tell you war supporters that we are enabling by supporting a regime that is fundamentally oppressive to women.

Sometimes all it takes is putting certain words in a sentence together without any concrete evidence for a lot of the public to create a real link in their minds. Two examples:

- Taliban/acid attack.
- Saddam Hussein/September 11.

Just saying these things together does not a crime and the right perpetrator make... the truth is a very important detail here! Don't let it slip away before you pass judgment on what has happened to these poor girls and what might be the real root cause of it.



SB
said

Where in this article does it mention Jack Layton wanting to "negotiate" with the Taliban? That is in the past people...how much longer can you beat the horse!

This article is about the disgusting methods these human animals use to intimidate their own people. My heart goes out to the victims and to every other female victim out there.

Another thought here...the U.S. should have at least attempted to finish what they started there rather than invading another country which posed no threat to anyone. (DUH!!).


Bill S.
said

This is just random crime - they didn't say it was the Taliban - could be just a bunch of local idiots. Crimes more violent than this happen in Toronto every month let alone Afghanistan. We have a role to play in Afghanistan because we stuck our nose into the Bush administration's increasingly elusive "war on terror." Unfortunately, you will never stop violent extremism. Dropping more bombs equals more terrorists. We can't even stop extremism in canada. Are we picking up on the logic here? Until all the resources in this world are shared equally between people there will always be wars and terrorism. We can't change other people by force, they have to want to do it. I say fufill our mandate in this country then wrap it up. Endless ideological innuendoes about "wars of righteousness" is childish. It's wake up time. We are broke.


Kevin in Van
said

All those who truely have an understanding of the situation in Afghanistan usually have two unresolved issues when looking at the Canadian publics view of things. First, How can anyone believe that people, strickly based on geography, should be left to suffer incredible human rights abuses. Secondly, with one of the major issues the equality of women, why are Canadian women so silent.
Our Mission there is simple and it"s successes can be quantified. Everyday we are there people have access to outside information. Everyday we are there boys and girls go to school.
Everyday we are there the soldiers of the free world have an opportunity to ride the planet of men who do not deserve to breath it's air.
A lion has no chance of ridding the savannah of Hyena's but that doesn't mean he should just lie there while they come for his children.


Lefty
said

I'm about as left leaning as they come, and even I can't understand how it's time to pull out. In a sense, it is impossible for the military to win, but it does enable the population to become educated. Isn't widespread education generally how change comes? How else did most countries attain democracy? All it takes is time and determination, as long as the current generation knows there is hope for something better.


Moe in Montreal
said

Nicolo Machiavelli had a better solution for this type of situation over 200 years ago. The fact the "military professionals" are ignoring every lesson in history and losing this conflict underscores that we either need a real plan, or to simply get out of there.


Kevin
said

Just because these attacks take place doesn't mean the mission is a failure.

We have crime and murders in Canada, does that mean Canada is a failure and we should just give up?

Considering the political and religious climate there the fact that there aren't more attacks means we are doing something right.




Chris
said

Man... I'm laughing at some of the ignorant comments here lol. As usual, all the nay saying pacifists are spewing their crap again. I agree, nowhere does it say the Taliban did this. It most likely was a random act of men who do not like women.

But you see folks, we are there to set this society straight. Yes we've been there for 6 years, but guess what... during that time, we have taught a 6 year old boy how to treat others with respect. Now that 12 year old is getting better educated and giving that respect back. That's what it's about people... teaching the next generations the right thing. Why don't some of you pacifists take a look at that!!!!


Richard
said

This is only the news we hear and knowledge we have on the situation.

Imagine what else happens every day that we don't hear about....




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Canada's new ambassador to Afghanistan, Bill Crosbie, visits Sayad Pacha School near Kandahar Airfield in this Sept. 8, 2009 photo. (THE CANADIAN PRESS/Bill Graveland)

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Janis Mackey Frayer sits down with Canada's new ambassador in Afghanistan.

For Ottawa, tough choices loom over Afghanistan

Future of the Mission

For Ottawa, tough choices loom over Afghanistan.

Petawawa

Petawawa

Two-part series on Canadian actor, director and playwright Christopher Morris.

Land of Opium

Land of Opium

Heroin and opium addiction is running rampant in Afghanistan.

Bios and Pictures

Casualties

Canadian Casualties

We remember those who lost their lives in Afghanistan since the mission began in 2002.

In Pictures

Helping conflict victims in Kabul

Helping victims in Kabul

A Red Cross orthopedic centre gives new hope to disabled Afghans in Kabul.

Corrections Canada

Corrections Canada

Corrections Canada and Canadian Forces reconstruct and train at an infamous Afghan prison.

After the surge

After the surge

A look at life in Afghanistan after the U.S. troop surge.

In Pictures

Canada's presence

A look at day-to-day life for Canadian Forces in Afghanistan.

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