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CTV Newsnet: Jim Flaherty announces that Ottawa will be purchasing another 50 billion dollars in residential mortgages
CTV Newsnet: Industry Minister Tony Clement explains the increase in borrowing for the Business Development Bank of Canada
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Mike Duffy Live: Michael McCracken, CEO of Informetrica Ltd., looks at Jim Flaherty's growing openness to recording a deficit
CTV Newsnet: Benjamin Reitzes, BMO Capital Markets on what this means for the Canadian economy
CTV Newsnet: Chief Political Correspondent Craig Oliver explains what consumers get out of this move

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CTV.ca News Staff

Date: Wed. Nov. 12 2008 10:36 PM ET

The federal government is purchasing another $50 billion in residential mortgages to further stabilize the lending industry and encourage lower interest rates, Finance Minister Jim Flaherty announced Wednesday.

The Canadian economy has stalled and is on the brink of a recession. The government hopes that its cash injection will keep consumers spending and keep businesses afloat.

The announcement follows a similar move last month in which Ottawa bought $25 billion in mortgages.

The combined mortgage debt, both purchased through the Canadian Mortgage and Housing Corp. (CMHC), will bring the maximum value of bought securities to $75 billion.

"At a time of considerable uncertainty in global financial markets, this action will provide Canada's financial institutions with significant and stable access to longer-term funding," Flaherty said at a press conference in Toronto.

"This extension of the program to purchase insured mortgages will further support the availability of credit, which will benefit Canadian households, businesses and the economy.

"In addition, it will earn a modest rate of return for the Government with no additional risk to the taxpayer."

Flaherty said the government "will not allow Canada's financial system, which has been ranked as the soundest in the world, to be put at risk by global events."

Patrick Grady of Global Economics LTD told CTV News, "the banking system would weather this storm whether the government provided assistance or not. But what it would do is cut back on loans it made."

Will the move help average Canadians?

It is hoped that the announcement will be a boon to entrepreneurs like Joseph Saikaley, the owner of an upscale hair salon in Ottawa.

He said despite the economic downtown, business at his salon, Byblos, is booming.

Saikaley says he wants to expand his operation, but can't get a loan from the banks.

"We have been trying to expand for the last few months, even trickling it down to a minor renovation and there is just not one dollar to be given out or lent," he told CTV News.

Flaherty says that the $50 billion in mortgage purchases should allow banks to start lending again with greater ease.

"It is up to private sector lenders to keep on doing their jobs, making loans to credit worthy people and enterprises of all sizes," he said.

But Saikaley isn't hopeful that the banks will start passing on the loans anytime soon.

"Put it in the hands of people that will do something with it, the banks are doing absolutely nothing will it," he said.

Last month, Canada's big banks lowered their prime lending rates following the announcement about the $25 billion buyout.

Not a bailout, gov't says

The Tories have been quick to indicate that the deal to buy mortgages is an asset swap, not a bailout.

The idea is that banks can take good assets, in this case the mortgages, and turn them into cash -- which can then be made available to people seeking mortgages or to small business.

The "high-quality" assets are already guaranteed by the Canadian government, Flaherty said.

"It is an efficient, cost-effective and safe way to support lending in Canada at a time of extraordinary strain in global credit markets," he said.

Despite the global financial crisis, Flaherty said he still expects to report a budget surplus.

"We're still on track for a small, and I emphasize small, surplus in the current fiscal year," he said.

Meanwhile, the Bank of Canada said Wednesday it will inject an added $8 billion into Canada's tight money markets.

The Bank said it plans to introduce a Canadian Dollar Term Loan Facility (TLF) in four auctions of $2 billion each in the coming weeks.

Under the plan, qualifying financial institutions will be able to offer non-mortgage loans as collateral -- meaning they can offer most loans currently on their books.

With a report from CTV's Robert Fife

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Allan M
said

Where is this apparent 50billion dollars coming from? I have yet to find a news sites that indicates where this magical 50 billion came from.


gullchasedship
said

From the banks ;-)


Gary
said

Helping the banks, they have record profits in the billions every year. Help the citizens of Canada. Seems to me the Banks are making a killing.


Sylvain
said

I Quote "He said this action "at a time of considerable uncertainty" " I taught that the government said that there was no problems so why are we pumping all that money for banks that charges between $1.25 to $2.00 per transaction fee and out of this world interest charge on charge card that belong to them. I hope that the $$$$$$ is loan and not just free $$$$$$$.

Steven is reallity finally hitting home??????????


Beth
said

Why? Yes, we're facing tough times, but the markets had to correct. They were way overinflated. Greed ran amuck. How much profit did the banks make the last number of years? Why don't they bail themselves out? They got themselves into this mess. How is it that they will be bailed out of their recklessness? Where will the bailing end? Who's next in line? Simplistic thinking? Maybe, but I'm just a regular Josephine who is responsible for my own spending and saving habits. If I get myself into a mess, I'm the only one who's responsible to get myself out. Responsibility. Now there's a novel idea.


Cam in Grande Prairie
said

It happened in the US...Canada always follows the US lead. Anyone who still thinks we are immune to problems mounting in the US really does have their head in the sand...I do believe it will be to a lesser degree in Canada as Subprime rules were much tighter here.


Rob
said

Change??? What change???? Obama got no plan!


Gary
said

Exaclty Beth, year after year record profits, then boom they need help, gimme a break. CEO's making million dollar bonuses. Cut that out before bailing them out. Let them help themselves


Tricky be tricked
said

The manipulators are being manipulated but who is the cleverest fox of them all?


Paul from Pickering
said

What this item doesn't mention is that the government is buying "high-risk" mortgages which have a much higher default rate. Once again, the taxpayer will be on the hook for these losses while the banks will continue to profit from the "no-risk" mortgages they keep.


Ed in Alberta
said

And who will bail out Joe SixPack when our jobs evaporate and the banks forclose on us.. Feds to the rescue I think not


Jason
said

It has nothing to do with how much the banks are making or the inflated prices of homes. It has to do with injecting money into the system so that when we Canadians want to renew or mortgages in the next year or so the banks wont turn us down... Its about stopping what has happened in the USA from happening in Canada too...


Marcus
said

The government is not bailing out banks ... They are bailing out the consumer. By clearing balance sheets of loans, then the banks can loan out more to the average Canadian. ...

Overpaid CEO
said

... "...why are we pumping all that money for banks"

"...Why don't they bail themselves out?"

"...CEO's making million dollar bonuses. Cut that out before bailing them out. Let them help themselves"

...it isn't a bail out. The CDN banks aren't in trouble. Canada buys some of their mortgages and in doing so the banks have fresh money to lend out to keep our economy solvent because there is a liquidity crisis.




Colour Me Mad as Hell
said

Stop. This is obscene. Govt of Canada, shake your head. Did you all take an AIG seminar on "Bleed the Taxpayers with a glass of Champagne" economics.

As a taxpayer I am furious on the concept of greed and idocity running our financial house.

The Govt is going down the same Looking glass hole as our cousins to the south.

Does anyone study basic economics anymore?

...


James
said

Flush!
The Big Three auto makers are about to declare bankruptcies. Even the Asian auto makers are reporting significant decreased sales. Consumer confidence is so shaken that retailers are having all of their sales before Christmas.
We have not seen the likes of this type of economic turmoil in decades and still the government is whistling past the graveyard. I am not sure why the government sees the need to play down the collaspe of the world's ecomomies and say that Canada will still have a modest surplus this year. The government is misleading Canadians as to the secerity of the downturn
To Beth, this is not a correction. A correction might mean a drop of 10%. This is a crash, meaning 40% or more of the market is gone for good.
Here's a novel idea; forgive debt and start again!


D.B.
said

One of the cdn banks had an article about making 1/2 a billion dollars,(forgot which one but they are all doing ridiculous profits on the backs of the working cdn people!) in a month and our tax dollars have back their mortgages??? Doesn't see right!!!!!!!


Mike in Colborne
said

The government has to, not because of the condition of our banks. Every time there is more money "made" in any economy, it drives the value of that currency down. So if the US makes 200 billion it drives the dollar value down. Almost every economy in the world has "made" money there by driving the value of every currency down. IF Canada doesn't follow suit, the dollar will be worth so much, no foreign entity will be able to afford the Canadian dollar. THAT is what they are working to stop here. No banks are faltering here. They are making profits AND investing in other markets.
I suggest people who want to understand whats going on google the Federal Reserve's report on Modern Money Mechanics.


David Smith
said

Once again the tax payers get screwed because people cannot live according to their means


A bent over Tax payer
said

One hand greases the other!!!!! A BIG SCAM by the banks. Use the BILLIONS in profit you made. Auto Companies are lined up there. Who is next in line ????


Joe Canuck
said

This is mostly about liquidity. When too many people cash in their mutual funds, the banks have a problem in finding the funds to pay them off. Sure, the banks have assets of outstanding mortgage loans on their books. But they don't, or can't, force mortgage holders to pay off their big loans, before the end of the term. Meanwhile, the federal gov't isn't as concerned about liquidity, as they have continuous taxation revenues, and can always sell bonds.


GTA
said

NO to Bailouts. Looks like the Obamessiah bubble is bursting.


DCR-Toronto
said

...This is NOT a bail out. ...Canada does not have a real estate crisis. This is simply allowing banks to have the confidence to lend "joe six-pack" and small companys money. Then he/she/they spend to stimulate the economy. As this happens, jobs are created, people start to buy. That creates more jobs. ANYONE who thinks that this is the government following the US, or the government is helping the banks over people, obviously haven't a clue of what this is.
...The government may even make money on this, as real estate prices start to rise in the coming years.


Paul R. Martin
said

To Alan M
The money will be borrowed in capital markets primarily from pension funds. Pension funds need high quality investments. As Ottawa's and CMHC's borrowing costs are less than that of the Banks, Ottawa will make a profit. As the assets are matched by liabilities, this transaction is "off balance sheet" and does not put the government into a deficit. As the mortgages are currently insured by CMHC, there is no change in the "risk" to the government.


Matt
said

This isn't really a bailout.

Normally all the banks are a bit off in their holdings, they will have either more or less cash on hand then they need. Think of the typical mismatch between the day your paycheck arrives and the day you pay a particular bill.

Normally the solution is they will lend or borrow from each other at a inter-bank lending rate. What is happening now is they are hesitating to lend to each other money, which means they pay higher rates to borrow, or the money simply isn't available. This hasn't happened yet, but the banks are concerned it might.

So what the banks NEED to do is increase their cash reserves. This means when you give them any money, for example you make a mortgage payment, they simply won't lend that money out to someone else, or if they do they need to do it at a higher interest rate.

When the banks stopped lending cash to each other, it started forcing them to stop lending to people. All the government is doing here is buying the mortgages (which are still being paid) so the banks have the money so the whole system keeps running.

The great thing about this is the government, at least the Canadian government, is likely going to profit from this assistance.


Laz in Finance
said

...The 50 BILLION is a swap of Cash for GOOD debt to release cash to the banks. Meaning, the government actually makes money. This is done all the time. The term BUYOUT is different from BAILOUT as was the case with AIG and others. ...

People simply don't read the article
said

...Instead of homeowners poaying the bank they now pay the government who now hold their mortgages. The banks in exchange have cash they can use to loan out and keep our economy going.
...



JP
said

Another $50 billion? Another? I must have blinked because I wasn't aware there was a first $50 billion dollars.


Mickey
said

It is like choosing not to pay your insurance premiums so that you can use the money to buy RRSPs. It seems like a wise idea until your house burns down.
And how exactly shall banks now pay off bad dept should large numbers of people lose their jobs and default on their mortgages? Chances are in that scenario the house market will be extremely poor and those houses won't sell. They used their insurance money to cover mortgage losses in order to make more loans.


KJ in Kingston Ontario
said

Where are all these billions and billions are coming from...? Directly or indirectly from retirement income -- so anyone taking retirement in the next decade is basically paying double for the previous decade of over-borrowing and over-spending. The golden years have just turned to fools gold for many many 'baby boomers'.


Jim
said

"Here's a novel idea; forgive debt and start again!"


Why the hell should they do that? All that does is is reward those that seem to have no comprehension of how to live within their means. Why should the rest of us that haven't racked up tons of debt be penalized for your bad choices and lack of money management skills?






Jenna
said

Dare I ask when this will stop, or is this only the beginning? Record profits and the banks still need help from the government?? Let them take care of their own problems instead of assuming that government/taxpayers will always be there to coddle them. The Ontario government has already dumped billions of dollars into the tanking auto industry. This reverse Robin Hood mentality has got to stop. And, I always love James' comments; everything is indeed going down into the pit, so buckle up and hang on tight. The outcome is inevitable; only the timing is unknown. It's all a scam and a gigantic rip-off.


Jamie
said

I think the key factor in this article that someone needs to look into is the statement of "purchase of insured mortgages" is this not how the US got themselves into so much trouble? Who holds the insurance on these mortagages and do they have the money to cover these insured mortgages if anything happens???


Call me frustrated - in SW ont
said

...THIS IS NOT A BAIL-OUT! Just another purchase of insured mortgages, which will as the 6th paragraph says ..."earn a modest rate of return for the government" ...

Steve - Montreal
said

Sound the trumpets!! The Fed cavalry is coming to save the day!!! I was wondering what they were going to do with my tax money this year...give it to a bank so it can give their CEO a big bonus for hanging in there during the tough times.
I just hope they are held accountable for these hand outs are spent.



Anne Ottawa
said

...this is not a gift. it is to inject liquid money into the system and tax payers are NOT getting bilked ...
I agree with this move but I also think the auto makers need a loan as well. that is bad news if they go under.



Barry in Saskabush
said

Obviously, a lot of people don't understand how the world of finance works! Government coffers (and Joe & Jane public) are likely to end up with a tidy profit out of this move. At the same time, our economy is even more insulated from the trouble happening elsewhere. ... Sadly, this move by the government will go unrecognized by so many people all the while they are benifited by it. ...

Market Madness Rollercoaster in Vancouver
said

... In actuallity, it is a pen on a piece of paper and is fabricated money. The 'ownership' of the debt is transferred to the government and the loan payment goes to the government.

$50 bn now, $25bn last month. For a country with 1/10 the population of the US, this smacks of the equivalent of a $750 bn bailout figure. Our government says it's a swap, not a bailout. And the difference is?

Well, fortunately, the big companies going bankrupt are American companies. Maybe the Hudsons Bay can buy out Circuit City and Best Buy as they go belly up and return them to Canadian ownership.


Pepper
said

It is frustrating on the surface to hear of banks getting government bailouts.

HOWEVER: The Canada Pension Plan and every pension plan workers have own a large chunk of shares in Candaian Banks. It is in every Canadaian's interest to make sure the financial system is strong to assure our pensions are safe.

Also, the debt being purchased is a reasonably high grade debt. These are National Housing Authority mortgages...not subprime debt. These debts are already governement backed, so the government taking over the debt really is no additional risk to the tax payer.


FreakAlert
said

People are clueless where money comes from, how it's created, and who has the billions and trillions to lend to nations.

I am curious, what reaction would the people have if they knew the true deceit pulled off by the international bankers and their technocrats.




Kat
said

People....wake up!!...we need to live within our means ( it's not that hard!! ) and quit relying on easy credit...no wonder we're in this mess!!


Exiled Canadian
said

Color me had as hell: "Does anyone study basic economics anymore?"

...As others pointed out, this is not a bail-out of failing institutions. This is a move to add credit liquidity to the markets by purchasing INSURED mortgages. The government is basically holding these so the banks can free up money that would otherwise be tied down by all these mortgages. This is not just so the housing market can start up again, it is also to provide credit to small businesses that rely on short-term loans. Once the economy stabilizes, the government will place these mortgages back into the hands of private institutions at a profit.

Paul from Pickering, please show me where you found that these are "high-risk" mortgages. I can't seem to find that anywhere.


Nick in Gatineau
said

Yes the Government makes a profit but so do the banks. Residential mortgages, in their entirety (Bad ones), in Canada, amount to between 75 and 100 Billion. CMHC has purchased 75 Billion, the BoC has purchased 45 Billion. Now another 50.

They just pushed the pile to the neighbour yard - Including all responsibility. ...



Call me Uncle Pablo
said

1). I really don’t understand what’s happening here. So, of what benefit will the dolling out of the taxpayers’ money, to the banks, be to the taxpayers?

2) "This extension of the program to purchase insured mortgages will further support the availability of credit, which will benefit Canadian households, businesses and the economy.

Where’s the benefit here? Can someone help me to understand? Is the credit at no cost to the taxpayers? Government giving out our money to the banks to trade with and you’re saying it’s beneficial to us? Us as in taxpayers or the small clique of bank’s executives and the likes? Am I in a different planet or what?

"In addition, it will earn a modest rate of return for the Government with no additional risk to the taxpayer."

I hope that I’m not over complaining here? What’s happening is like some one who stole my money and then turns back to lend it to me at “a modest rate of return with no additional risk to me."



GHW
said

Like it or not our life style and the banks are joined at the hip. If the banks go down we go down. Doesn’t matter that it’s the banks fault or that the banking elite don’t pay, we have to bail them out or we’ll all be standing in soup lines in a year or two. We may still end up there anyway.

What’s around the corner you ask? This crisis will usher in a new age of socialism all thanks to human greed and stupidity. On the whole, it’s our nature! Unless regulated people become corrupt. The problem with socialism is the people running it are just as susceptible. Where does this leave us? Hooped! Well that’s too pessimistic. We need a delicate balance between capitalism and socialism. Canada and Europe are on the right track but the reason we’re in trouble too is because our financial systems all tied too closely with the U.S. who ... is dragging us all down.



Alan
said

If I had the personal resources there would be lawsuits flying in all directions. I would have lawyers and private investigators snooping everywhere. The financial 'industry' had better hope that I never win a large lottery.


Sly
said

Ref:"Exiled Canadian"

you said to help out small business in Canada well let me tell you that I tried to get $$$$$$$$$ from bank'S and the answer they give us is THEY CANT DO ANYTHING because of the SITUATION SOUTH OF THE BOARDER ...

GP
said

Bail out the banks??? Who is running this country because it does not seem like Harper is running the counrty. First the Harper government was going to end debit card charges but that never happened. Instead Canadians giving these profit rich banks billions of our tax money. Sounds like Harper is helping out some bank buddies.


Gail (Hamilton)
said

We should stop looking at this from an individual country basis. The is what happens in a global economy, especially when certain people have the power to make it so. I'm just not sure who the world captain will be. We have watched this change with our eyes wide open, unable to speak out against it without being labelled a non-believer. When individualism is replaced with "it takes a village", capitalism is in the fight for it's life. When Thomas Edison invented the light bulb, the government didn't step in and bail out the kerosene lamp makers. Capitalism is the only path to make economies grow and prosper, and bailouts rewarding failures take us in the opposite direction.


MuskyBuck
said

What a joke.

This government is making mockery out of you and everyone else that has to pay their debts.

They'll hand over our entire future to banks and auto makers.

Meanwhile most, not all, of you will sit here and argue the merits of this government vs. a different one.

This is wholly brutal governance, this is exactly what I hate about backwards thinking.

If I were PM, my quote would be this. "If the banks and the automakers are hungry....let them eat cake."

I would open those closed auto plants and give them to the auto unions...I would dissolve the unions by gifting them their own electric car company, providing cars to Canada and the world.

I would take back the right to print our own money and screw the world bank just as much as they've been soaking and screwing you and I since previous to the first World War.

Then....I'd make history and politics a mandatory requirement of education in this country, along with proper health and physical education classes so that our kids never get to be as uneducated, gullible, fat and lost as most Canadians are now.

Or, maybe I'd just screw off to Trinidad/Tobago where I could live under a little dictator in relative peace and quite.


BB in B.,C.
said

These are CMHC backed mortgages and if some default the insurance would kick in. Now as much as we love our bankers I'm sure they are trying to push as many risky ones on the government as possible. Then again I don't know that for sure but I did figure out earlier on that it wasn't tax dollars or putting the government into deficit like some other hair triggers did. Now if they would do a swap like this with the big 3 I'll line up to buy my new truck from the government. If not I'll be buying it from the bankruptcy receiver soon.


GHW
said

To all those complaining that YOUR money has been stolen by the banks; it’s not your money! Having money is privilege not a right. With out the financial and governmental systems you wouldn’t have anything. You’d be living in the dark ages with marauding gangs of Vikings visiting every 6 months. Nothing personal Vikings.


Greg
said

This isn't tax payer's money being used to bolster the major bank's liquidity. CMHC is funded by the mortgage insurance that home buyers who can't afford a conventional mortgage (i.e. 25% downpayment) are obligated to purchase at the time of sale. This money in turn sits in reserve with the CMHC to pay banks out for defaulted mortgages, or in this case, to purchase a large number of perfectly healthy mortgages in order to keep the wheels greased and the economy moving.

As far as I can see, it's a sound move and I don't understand what all the uproar is over it. The system is working exactly the way it should be, and we're lucky to have such a mechanism in place for times like this when it's needed.


camt
said

Measure should have been put in place years ago to stem the astronomic acceleration of the cost of housing. I just returned from a place in Northern AB where a 3 bedroom bungalo, with a small lot, built with prefab material, and a lot of shoddy workman ship could go as high as $700,000 at one time. This had to end sometime. Are these the mortgages that we are going to bail out? Also, Banks should be able to weather fair sized storm with the profits they have been making since the last downturn. Come on CEOs and Execs, fork over a portion of your salaries and all of your bonuses!!!!!!!


PVT
said

If people just started living within their means there would be no financial crisis in Canada. Many people posting here blame corporations and governments for being greedy and selfish and rightly so. However, I ask those same people, "How much do you have on your credit card? How many purchases do you make on a whim just because you 'need' something and have room on your card? Nobody 'needs' a 50" plasma if it means buying on credit at 18% interest or higher. Nobody 'needs' two top of the line vehicles with expensive monthly payments and operating costs when something less exhorbidant will serve the same purpose just as well. Really, who are the selfish/greedy ones here? Joe consumer better wise up - it's not all gov't and corporations who need to evaluate their actions regarding finances.

If consumers keep spending too much on things they don't need with money they don't have, soon there will be no money for the things they actually do need (ie: mortgages).


Jason
said

Enough of the NAYSAYERS!!!
A great majority of the people commenting are missing the point entirerly. This is not a bail out! This is not a sub prime buy out!! ... The government buys the morgatges, then they own the asset. Then the credit reluctant banks are able to exstend credit to "Joe six pack" when it comes time to take a buisness loan or renew a mortgage. There is not mortgage crash here in Canada. These mortgages are some of the safest in the world. Canadains tend to have far more equity in their homes than the Americans do. Ask yourself this. How many Canadian banks have failed??? None! How many are likely to fail?? None!!! Enough with the gloom and doom. We live in a beutiful country, full of great people, wonderful places, world class resources (not just oil), a very stable banking system, and a stable democracy. Love it or leave it.


Allan
said

The housing market in Canada is going to crash .....and they know it! The banks are being bailed out beforehand because they know the same thing is inevitable here that has already happened in the U.S.


Pat_from_Mississauga
said

Two points I must make:

1. This is a very bad move. Simply pumping 50 billion into the banks by buying mortgages is no guarantee that this money will then be available to Canadians. It will sure no longer be available to the government, which may need that money desperately if revenues drop.

2. ... Obama has nothing to do with this topic. Furthermore, he has not even taken office yet! ...

MurrayI
said

It seems ridiculous that the government is buying residential mortgages and yet there are people losing jobs and now walking away from thier homes..And the building keeps going on and on..It is looking more like what has happened in the south,all these new homes and will they have buyers???Who can buy a house when so many people are losing jobs??The government is bound to make money and who's mortgage will they hold or buy ????


Scott in Victoria
said

Sure - keep the lending rates low. However, if Canadians are at debt saturation this action will do nothing except encourage more debt.
With inflation increasing, unemployment increasing, boomers nearing retirement, and too many houses on the market, this problem needs to be tackled in another way than buying out debt.


J.C.
said

Sly:

Try going back to the banks after this government action takes effect and see what they say then. If they still tell you re south of the border problems ask them why when our government just did buyouts for them. If they give you the same response contact your MP and ask why.
These government actions are taken to help people like you that are in such a position. To free up cash to lend to good credit applications.


David Chan
said

What a peculiar situation we have here. I always figured that if I couldn't afford my mortgage payments I'd have to sell my house. I also figured that if I lost my job and couldn't afford my mortgage payments I'd have to sell my house. What has happened here folks? Have we become brainwashed with the union 'security' mentality. Has the government become national 'parents' with the collective purse in order to protect votes? Are we becoming a completely socialist society where nobody is responsible anymore? Has my 1960s generation finally destroyed everything? I really don't understand this at all.


B Forrest
said

How do we know what types of mortgages are being bought? Are these foreclosures or mortgages close to foreclosure? Where is the transparency in this announcement? Where can I find a description/details about the types of mortgages the government is buying?


Phil
said

People should dig deeper then the lies published in the news. Less then 1% of the worlds population understand true world economics. It is all deceit from the banksters. Credit is a crime. Banks are the largest organised crime unit in the world.


Nick in Gatineau
said

How many mortgages will default if the Oil Sands shut down due to costs and US reluctance to buy Oil sands-related products ? What will happen to AB's tax system ? Hell, what will happen to Alberta ?

The automakers are in trouble - Unions brought that on with 20 + years of collective bargaining agreements that were irrespective of those companies' well-being. You want a raise, cut your numbers - that's the new reality of the industry. Buzz Hargrove said it as well.

Reality bites, especially when 20 years ago everyone laughed at those who said it would happen. No-one is laughing anymore.


elizabeth
said

Seriously, those of you on this blog who are blaming Obama for this need to give your heads a shake. He didn't create this mess. It will take a couple of generations to clean up this mess. That illegal invasion costs trillions of dollars. The world has impossible expectations of Obama. Two wars they need to exit and a worldwide financial collapse! He isn't even in office yet and he is being blamed.


Not Impressed!
said

What is this thing called 'debt' that you speak of? Are you living in Leaside on a Scarborough income? Are you driving a BMW on a Honda income? Are you cruising Europe on a Cuba income? So why is our government entering into the fray with my tax dollars to bail you out? This smells bad!


Leo, ON.
said

We can certainly see the Federal Election is over. The economy is NOT in as good of shape as we were led to believe by the NeoCons, they wanted us to believe ...
Lies, Lies, we all new that just the right wing people were hoping but there goes Harper and Flaherty BIG LIES again and again...

The media is much to blame as well for NOT investigating all those lies, oh I'm sorry the media are Harper's best friends!!!

How in the hell can they, Fed. Govern., keep Canada from having a negative BUDGET.
Already they've spent $80billion of dollars, not bad for a country that was suppose to be fairing out the down economy...
Very Sad... Conservatives has always screwed this Country why should it be different now!!!


Shamaro
said

This is a very smart tactical move by freeing up billions of dollars.

We can all scream and cry about our banks and CEO's, but we do have the best banking system in the world and Canadians and Canada thus far have been cushioned quite well from the big global economic blow.

Sure there is going to be lots of controversy over what Harper and Flaherty did, however no matter what they do, Canadians are going to criticize the government. If we didn't, it would be very UnCanadian of us.

Now, could you only imagine if the government, who have taken the $75billion in mortages, said to us, that the interest rate on those mortgages would be zero percent for one year, to help us get our finances in order, well that would music to all our ears, plus it would allow many of us to pay down a nice little amount of money on the principle of the mortgage and would free up even more cash into the system. But then again, that's only wishful thinking.


Alex (Toronto)
said

The government, i.e. taxpayers, will probably lose a small amount of money on this. Some people are overextended and eventually their houses will have to be foreclosed and sold at prices below their outstanding mortgages. Most of this will be offset by the small profit the government will make from the other mortgages they take over. This will likely overall cost us (taxpayers, ultimately) a few billion dollars over the next few years.

The alternative is that banks will be immediately forced to foreclose on homeowners, not because the homeowners can't keep up their mortgage payments, but because the banks don't have money to lend, so when mortgages expire, the banks won't be able to renew mortgages. Dumping thousands of homes and condos on the market all at once will depress prices, which will trigger more foreclosures. Many thousands more people become homeless and investors and homeowners collectively lose hundreds of billions of dollars.

So we can pay a few dollars a paycheque in taxes, or we can see hundred-thousand-dollar hits to the value of our homes and RSPs, not counting the many who will no longer have homes.


SW ont
said

To Muskybuck: Please send us a postcard and let us know how things are working out for you in Trinidad.

For all this talk of economic downturn and gloom, already I can't get a parking spot at the mall as we all seem to still be ramping up for the Season.


Greg from Calgary
said

Did I read the same article as these other posters???

The government is not lending money to the banks. It's buying YOUR mortgage from them. That frees up money for the banks to lend to others.

What's so hard about understanding that?




Rebecca in Edmonton
said

What an abuse of our Bank of Canada at the hands of the private banks! Hyper inflation here were come. Gold will double by December.


Keith, Halifax
said

If global economic conditions keep deteriorating then of course it will catch up to Canada too. But it is becoming clearer just what a sound fiscal foundation Martin/Chrétien built. It is too bad they were not still at the helm though because Harper blowing the surplus and refunding the military at too fast rate will give us less wiggle room.


Doug BC
said

What are some of these posts going on about.This has NOTHING to do with bailing out banks,or for that matter,bank profits.If that's the level of understanding most of us have as to the nature of this mess,we may already be doomed to fail.
And perhaps,any country that sees "profit" as a dirty word is already a few steps behind.Who do people think "the banks" are? WHo do they think owns "the banks"?? And what do you think "the banks" do with all those "excess profits"??
"Joe Six Pack" owns most of the banks in Canada.Those shares can be bought by anyone.And the profits go to those who bought shares.If you bought the shares and are living on the dividends you might have a different view as to whether or not your return on that investment is excessive."Joe Six Pack" owns the a part of the banks just like he owns parts of every other "publicly listed" company in the country.And he gets a share of the profits.Perhaps,if you think the profits are high,you should stop living on credit cards and buy a few extra shares yourself.It is,after all,the poor use of credit in the USA that started all of these problems.
It's also important to recognize the difference between a bailout,a loan,and an investment.
This is GLOBAL.It is not a Made in Canada problem.We were doing the right thing by paying down debt.But it couldn't solve the problem until we paid down more,and until other debtor nations did the same thing.
Debt makes slaves of nations and families.


bonnie
said

At least 10 billion will go to the CHRISMAS bonus,for the EXECS.for doing a wonderful job!!!

Nick in Ottawa
said

Short sighted opinions: I don't want MY money going there, the banks make tons of money every year, we're making the rich fatter while the poor get slimmer.

Long term approach: Stabilizing our economy is of the utmost importance. This is not an *I* society, this is a federation. WE. we need to secure our long term financial health to a comfortable level. I am just glad those with the short sighted opinions aren't running this country. If you want to run debt free, you will have a very sluggish economy, meaning the short sighted people will lose more on their RRSP's, pension funds, mutual funds and other internationally tied investments.

These banks provide millions of Canadians with loans (mortgages) for homes. Average home prices are $300,000 across the country. Multiply that by the millions of homes/cottages in Canada, not including infrastructure (Businesses getting loans), and you can see why a plan as this makes sense.

This isn't a wall street bailout, this isn't a slush fund for the TSX. This is an insurance policy.

LONG TERM people, long term...


Jason
said

99% of you need to read the whole artical again... no on is lending the banks any money.... this is for us not the banks....it a preventitive measure to ensure what happened south of the border does not happen here in Canada....

Paul R. Martin
said

Several posters have clearly outlined that what is transpiring is not a bailout, there is no risk to the government, and the deal is profitable, yet the ignorant comments continue. Either the negative comments are politically motivated, or the naysayers are unable to think rationally. Even Dion approves of this program.


Stephanie O
said

Bottom line what can we do about it???? NOTHING


Paul, Kitchener ON
said

Banks make huge profits and if you truly believe they make it off those service fees you pay on your personal bank account. Then you need to read a financial statement from your bank. Most profits come from Foreign Investments, corporate business and lending. Your bank account makes a bank a small percentage of their profit in comparison.

As for this mortgage buy out. The gov't is buying mortgages that are insured by CMHC or GE both are mortgage insurance companies that pretty much all of us with a mortgage pay a premium in our mortgage for. It basically guarantees the mortgage for the bank and now the Gov't. What this means is the interest you pay on your mortgage will now partially go to our Gov't. So a $75 billion investment that has an average 20 year guaranteed return is pretty smart. Anyone with an investment would love a guaranteed return.

All the banks get is reduction of risk on their books which will allow them to offer lower interest on loans and mortgages. Plus it will encourage more foreign investment.

do you see the cycle...if not here it is. Banks profit from foreign investment with reduced risk they look good to foreign investors so more invesment in our banks. Making them more stable and thus avoiding what alot of people believe will be a financial meltdown in canada similar to the US.


Ignorance is not bliss
said

Blaming Obama when he's not even in office yet? Calling this a bailout rather than an investment?

Some of us need to do more research rather than go on the media "panic" bandwagon.

kate
said

I'm okay with helping the banks only if in the end it benefits home owners somehow. As for the Big 3, I am against a bailout. Instead let them go under, get rid of that stupid union and give any monies to Honda and any other car maker that promises to build hybrids, electric cars or something that people can afford to and will buy.

Cam
said

man had I known this I would have bought that house I realized last year I couldn't afford.. kicking myself now.. could've had a house bankrolled by Harper! that'll learn me!


Basil from Montreal
said

I have read a few negative comments here, and while I am never the first to defend the Conservatives, this plan is not bad. To clarify: buying mortgages from banks at the (currently) low prices will make the government money. Not cost taxpayers.

These mortgages will be recorded as an asset on our yearly balance sheet, and should not affect the surplus (or deficit!) in and of themselves. Mindlessly lowering the GST might, but not buying mortgages from banks.

In the long run, assuming that actions like this continue to keep our economy from imploding, these mortgages will be worth more than were paid for them, which might help the government keep a surplus.


Dave - Alberta
said

Well, looks like the CON party has already broken 2 campaign promises, those being 1 - "We will not be bailing out banks with financial packages like they are doing in the US" and 2- "We will not run a deficit". Would Mr. Flaherty like to explain why the CONs outright lied about #1 and where he plans to magically conjure up $50Billion to fund this lie?


American in Canada
said

Call it what you like, but a bailout it is. This is rather disappointing. I sure hope Canadians are at least going to demand some transparency. The Federal Reserve refuses to even report which companies our $1 trillion is going to (which makes you wonder, who is really getting all that money printed out of thin air for them).

We've been scammed.

AR
said

so we can come up with 50billion for mortgages but not 1 billion for the auto sector, to keep thousands of people working?

Craig B
said

Let me get this straight...

The Conservative populous craps on Liberals for "overtaxing" and running surpluses, so instead they lower taxes, kill the surplus, stunt debt repayment and then go on and spend $50B.

Welcome to massive deficit spending by the economically stunted Conservative mindset.

I guess Harper and co. can just blatantly lie ala Mike Harris about how big the deficit really is when the time comes.

Wasn't it a month ago Harper was commending Canada's banking system for its stability? Did something change?

Way to go Canada!


Gail, another American in Canada
said

Having the government ride in on a white horse and buy up some residential mortgages is not a good thing. They have their fingers in too many pies and now want to control even more of our lives. It is indeed one huge scam, and guess who is the victim. But this is happening all over the globe, we in Canada are not immune, so get used to headlines like this.


Sean - Toronto
said

It would be nice if people would actually read the article before showing their ignorance on this post site. THIS IS NOT A BAILOUT!!! It's just buying insured mortgages from the banks, so they in turn, can lend the proceeds of the sale of those mortages to businesses and individual consumers.All tis is doing is allowing the banks to inject liquidity into the Canadian economy. The government of Canada will see a modest profit from this purchase, even if some of these mortgages go south, as it receives the interest from the mortgages, which are insured. This makes them a pretty safe investment.
The national economy is the big winner here.... not bank CEO's, etc. Some of you people really need to get a life!!!


M
said

For heaven's sake.....help the auto industry. Get it turned around and create more jobs. Haven't the bank made enough profits year after year to survive anything? I'd rather bail out the corner store than a financial corporation.


sanguine
said

Oh no, the fiscally irresponsible Conservatives are at it again. They brought in the 40 year no down payment mortgage and offered an open door to US mortgage companies. Why am I not surprised that the Conservatives are now using tax payer money to bail out their mistakes. Why can't we have a party that does not blindly follow the failed US style of economics, deregulation and no accountability. What a disappointment. Conservatives a lot of hot air and blindly following ideology instead of common sense. Unfortunately we don't have anyone who can go up against them and make them use common sense economics. Why do most sensible seeming people have the idea that big business with little or no regulation is good for a country and people.


RIPPED OFF CONSUMER
said

News flash here, the banks are not passing ANY of these government boondoggles on to their customers nor do these government actions do anything to protect us - the consumers who they want to be borrowing money.

I was just at a major bank and they want to charge me upwards of 12 percent interest for a loan!

I have bullet proof credit and have NEVER defaulted, missed a payment or made any credit errors in my life.

The banker even acknowledged that this travesty is the premium consumer loan rate that they offer their best customers!!

Adding "credit liquidity" is an absurdly one-sided "help" if consumers are being RIPPED OFF with the huge interest rates they are being charged in spite of all the recent drops.

I'm betting all government aid (read - OUR TAX DOLLARS) will be used by the banks to keep their MASSIVE profit margins and executive compensation packages intact.

boy am I TIRED of hearing how bad THEY have it!


Kevin in Toronto
said

So irritating. It's not a bailout. Grasp that.

Without the money, banks wouldn't go under - they just wouldn't lend as much money.

A bailout saves one from bankruptcy. This isn't the same thing at all.

When people can borrow (within reason); they say, buy a house, or better yet, have a house built. This then creates jobs, which causes those workers to make money to spend, to then create more jobs, all creating tax revenue.

It's about stimulating a slumping economy - not about bailing anyone out.

This government purchase is in everyone's best interests. This partisan rhetoric about broken promises is useless and more importantly complete and utter poppycock.



From Vancouver
said

Why give bailouts to the automakers? we should instead give money to people so they can buy automobiles under the condition its from one of the suffering automakers.


Kowai
said

Ummmm lets freeze all home loans for three years, people can buy cars save money to pay off there mortgages in three years or just us the money to buy house hold things vacations and so on so forth for the next three years.

This will boost the economy help out the auto industry and put a stop to the bank managers getting enormous bonuses and in the end the banks can go back to making money off the mortgages when they kick back in after the three year freeze.

Oh NO !!!! I forgot!!!

The rich would have to sit on all there money and not make enormous profits for the next three years for this to work.

Oh well it was just a passing thought

Kowai



Pat_from_Mississauga
said

OK, all you "this is NOT a bailout crowd" - try to grasp this analogy. You are in financial trouble. You want your dad to help you out. Instead of giving you $20,000 bucks, he buys your old car which you are not using for $20,000. That's not a bailout - in a pigs eye! THIS IS A BAILOUT - plain and simple.


Paul, Kitchener, ON
said

"so we can come up with 50billion for mortgages but not 1 billion for the auto sector, to keep thousands of people working?"

Yes we invest $75 billion in to Canadian Banks. Which in turn will stimulate the Canadian economy. I'm all for saving jobs but not for saving the auto industry which is an international business and which will not directly benefit the Canadian economy in the same way as the mortgage buy back does.



MuskyBuck
said

This is a quote from the US Treasury Secretary:


The government's US$700-billion financial rescue package will not purchase troubled assets from banks as originally planned this would have taken too much time, and the Treasury instead will buy stakes in banks and press them to resume normal lending.

Can you believe they're just handing the cash over and hoping they'll spend it right?


I'll admit that what we're doing is at least more transparent but I've still got a problem with bailing them out.

This entire society is based on credits. It's been there since the banks have started and that's great....but my point is that type of business is now disrupting normal society worldwide.

And now we're going to prop it up instead of like any other business, die, evolve start again.

Our annual income tax is hoax that we've been paying for a hundred years now.

It doesn't pay for our infrastructure it goes to interest on that unlimited account the banks set up for us, the US etc over 100 years.

Let them die and let this credit business become less entrusive in society.

With them goes our and almost every other countries national debt.

Just a thought.


Fraser
said

I cannot believe the stupidity of some of the comments on here it amazes me that many cannot read and comprehend.

The government is buying good mortgages that are insured by "the government" anyway [c.m.h.c.-canada mortgage and housing corporation].

This frees up the ability to lend out monies for mortgages and small businesses to keep the economy flowing.

The government is basically in very loose terms a mortgage holder that is making money [being the interest made on a mortgage] just like the banks do. So do ya think Canadian taxpayers could benefit? Duh!

[End of rant and frustration]



Lee Tanner
said

Wow, I can't get over the ignorance of the majority of posters here.
This is not a bailout. Simply put, it's CMHC buying mortgages from the banks, to free up cash, so the bank can extend credit to the company YOU work for, so YOU won't lose your job, and YOU can still afford to pay your mortgage. It's a sound economic move.
I wish people would stop trying to justify or make excuses for their entitlement socialist attitudes. Work hard - get rewarded. Don't work hard - don't get rewarded.


Mo
said

I want a bailout....turned 71...lost 40 per cent through investment firm and bank..in RRSP have no true cash and now may as well go on welfare...why work?
the banks and government take it all..it is sad you can not claim a loss in RRSP..what a scam...trusts lost that tooo....thanks Mr Flaherty you really screws the common folk.


rachelcga
said

MuskyBuck, see you in Trinidad and Tobago. I am selling my house (hopefully I can get it sold) take my money and run from all this BS. I think some caribbean sun will do me some good.


Robert A
said

So let me get this straight in my little head. First you have these high horse people who decide to live way beyond their means and borrow huge amounts of money for their million dollar houses and sport cars. Then you have the stupid "looking out for profits no matter what the cost" banks who gladly lend money to anyone with a half-a-brain and a weekly paycheck. Now these people decide to split because their dreamworld is over and they leave the bank holding the bag. Now the banks look at us, the tax payers for a 50 billion dollar band-aid so they can fix the immediate problem and then turn around and do it all over again next year.....!! Are we that freakin stupid.....come people, say something, do something, this is not rite. "You want to play, you gotta pay"

Peed off Robert in NB


Socialist Harper loves throwing taxpayer money
said

at his corporate cronies.

You love the "free market" so much, die for it.

Practise what you preach, you phony "conservatives."




IT'S A BAILOUT, YOU LIARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
said

Harper, you're finished!!!!!!








stop the lies
said

I see the Liberal Bloggers are out in force trying to scare Canadians. These are complex financial times and I am sorry to say well above the comprehension level of most. We have never seen anything like this ever. To pray on peoples fears is disgusting.

The government paid 50 billion in cash for 50 billion in assets. The assets are NOT high risk.
Not high risk because
1. our mortgages are insured.
2. Canadians have much more equity in their home then most
3. Our housing market is not crashing there fore the value of the assets are relatively stable.

Anyone who says they are high risk is either lying or is stupid. I will allow them to pick which one they prefer.

This is a smart move by the government with minimal risk.


GP
said

To those that say this is not a bail out, you are only technically correct. This is however the taxpayer subsidy from heaven. It allows banks to free up large sums of money that would otherwise have to be used to secure various types of investments and debt vehicles that the Banks themselves accepted so they could generate the obscene levels of profit they have become accustom to. Unfortunately, I agree that in these times it is necessary.

That said, it is necessary because of the banks own doing AND it allows the banks to then turn around and gouge profits on the backs of the taxpayers that are actually permitting them to have the ability to make these loans/profits.

This is just crap. How by any stretch of the imagination is this fair? The taxpayer (government) needs to attach conditions to this subsidy that the banks must accept as a punishment for getting themselves into this mess to start with. I don’t see anyone arguing that the banks did not do this to themselves.

Its call the "principle of fairness" and the government needs to step up and apply it, while the banks need to suck it up and stop trying to dodge their responsibility for causing this. The Banks next quarterly reports will tell the story of who is really suffering here…the taxpayer or the Banks. Who here thinks it will be the Banks?


Tell the banks to eat their losses.
said

I'm not paying taxes so Harper can play pattycake with his buddies.

If the banks need money, they should raise the interest rate they pay on deposits.

I don't work for my money and save it so that you deadbeats can get a free ride from your pal Harper.




Kyle Brookings (Carbonear NL)
said

What i find odd is that Seephen Harper said that we were in a good place with the banks during the election. Maybe he just didn't want us to know what was really going on because this time he can't blame the Liberals.


SK Taxpayer
said

Can I have some please?


Leo
said

If I made a bad loan to someone that can't repay me, would the Harper Gov. come and buy that bad loan I made ?
NOT...
So if the Banks were too greedy to lend money to people to buy a house without the proper income let them deal with the consequences!!!


David Dunlop
said

This is a coordinated effort. Canada coordinating with the US, UK, France, Germany, Japan and Italy, the G7 in other words, along with the G20. All governments need to work together in unison to pull off a global economic recovery. Then Dalton McGuinty steps in and wants to beat the US to the punch throwing everything out of whack in a futile attempt to become a hero and save Ontario jobs, what a goof.


Paul In Winnipeg
said

Why is it that any time people don't understand something it's a "scam"?

Yeesh - yes, many of you should be proud of your ability to manage your personal finances, but honestly - do you think managing the global economy is as simple as balancing your chequebook?

Please - spend a few moments to educate yourself before assuming that everything is a conspiracy to screw "Joe six pack" by bailing out the "fat cat" banks.


Aaron
said

If you're wondering where the money comes from, guess what? It's all just typed into a computer. It's called Fractional Reserve Banking. Most money doesn't actually exist, just numbers in a computer. The government can issue $50 Billion no problem, the catch is it increases inflation. When you get a loan from a bank you are creating money too...


What's all in it for the bankers?
said

Did the government give the bankers "get out of jail free" cards in exchange for all the love and compassion they are showing toward Canadians?


Phyllis in Bancroft
said

Why is the Government putting more money into the pockets of the Banks? Why don't they put money into infrastructure i.e. roads, bridges, transit, utilities. This will assist the finanacially pressed municipalites, towns, cities etc. to meets the needs of the communities as well as employ the workers who have lost their jobs. The people will then be able to pay their own mortgages instead of the Bank lending out more money to people who haven't the means to pay it back.


Mady
said

Some people should really get educated on the subject before putting your comments, What the gov is doing is helping out the economy, most mortgages that didn't have a down payment of 20% are insured by underwritters, one of those underwritters is CMHC, (canada housing and mortage corp) which is a Gov owned company, so if the client defaults, the bank isn't at risk, When the gov insures another 50 billion, that is great news that means the bank can keep lending money to client to keep buying houses, in return people spend which helps the economy. So they aren't paying for the mortgages, they are putting the money aside if there is default then it will cost them, otherwise its all good.


dave708955
said

well seeing that the banks are going to get my tax dollars, how about a lower intrest rate on my house, which i can afford by the way, and a better intrest rate on my savings. I recently put 40k into an account for 3 months while I was waiting for a purchase and all I got for intrest was $1.87.


Kristine
said

Instead of giving that money directly to the banks why doesn't the government give it to the banks on our behalf. That way the banks still get their $50B, and some of our debts are gone. That way there is more money going into the economy and people will calm down about a recession.
Its a win - win - win


SB
said

Will this buyout stabalize the real estate market that is going down currently? And would it drive the CAD currency up against the USD ?


Echo
said

This is absurd!
Even the US government did better than ours: they're actually taking equity in the buggers they're bailing out, while we're just buying a very expensive bag for the privilege of holding it.



jeff
said

All central governments hold cash in their reserves. What's being proposed is simply exchanging one asset (federal cash) for another asset (in this case a block of mortgages).



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