CTV.ca | Feds confirm plan to seek climate deal with Obama

Conservative MP Lawrence Cannon speaks in Quebec City on Wednesday, Sept. 3, 2008. (Jacques Boissinot / THE CANADIAN PRESS)

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President-elect Barack Obama, left, and Vice President-elect Joe Biden wave to the crowd after Obama's acceptance speech at his election night party.(AP Photo / Morry Gash)

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International Trade Minister Stockwell Day appears on CTV's Canada AM on Wednesday, Nov. 5, 2008.

Feds confirm plan to seek climate deal with Obama

Updated Wed. Nov. 5 2008 11:03 PM ET

CTV.ca News Staff

With U.S. President George Bush's replacement officially waiting in the wings, Ottawa has opened up about its plans to seek a joint climate-change plan with president-elect Barack Obama.

Foreign Affairs Minister Lawrence Cannon confirmed the government's plans to The Canadian Press on Wednesday, one day after Obama was elected to office.

He said Canadian officials hope to begin working with their U.S. counterparts within weeks.

Officials told CP the Conservatives had been waiting for Bush's replacement to be elected before they began working with the incoming president to design an integrated carbon market.

Cannon said the efforts will be a top priority for Environment Minister Jim Prentice, noting that Obama's climate change policies are similar to Canada's in many ways.

"We will be able to tackle this file on the North American level -- on a continental level," Cannon told CP.

"Over the coming weeks I know my colleague Jim Prentice, minister of the environment, will be active on that file. I see that in a positive light.

Prentice later said: "If you look at the targets that President-elect has spoken about in terms of greenhouse gases they are surprisingly close to the Canadian targets."

Obama's stated goal is to reduce greenhouse gas emissions to 1990 levels by 2020.

Ottawa's plan would reduce the rates by three per cent from 1990 levels in the same period.

Such a continent-wide plan to deal with climate change by controlling greenhouse gas emissions would provide uniformity and supplant the patchwork of plans that have been implemented in various states and provinces.

"We really need to ensure that the standards, the full economical, fuel efficient standards that we have in North America are harmonized," Prentice said.

International Trade Minister Stockwell Day said Obama is "tracking in the same direction" as Canada and they would work together on all manner of trade issues.

"He's concerned about the environmental picture related to fossil fuels and we're the only federal government in North America that has actually legislated a reduction of greenhouse gases by 20 per cent -- he's talked about doing the same," Day said.

"There are a lot of similarities between the positions put forward and our position," Cannon said.

"This augurs well for a North American approach on environmental issues -- specifically on climate change."

'Dirty' oil

During the campaign, Obama said he would reduce U.S. dependency on foreign "dirty, dwindling, and dangerously expensive" oil -- prompting fears that an Obama administration would tighten the U.S. border to Canada's oilsands products.

Day said the federal government has watched the election campaign closely and he believes Obama is thinking in a "North American context," and Canada may not be included in his criticism of foreign oil.

"I think he recognizes and understands that Canada's reserves of oil are probably the second largest in the world and he also recognizes there are environmental issues, so with a combination of those two things I think it's going to work out favourably for us," Day said.

Vital trade relations

Day pointed out that 400,000 Canadians and Americans cross the border every day, and $1.7 billion in trade flows between the two nations on a daily basis.

Obama is sure to recognize the value of that relationship to both Americans and Canadians, and treat it respectfully, Day suggested.

Besides Obama's environmental concerns with the North American Free Trade Agreement, Day said his criticism of the trade pact has largely focused on labour issues which appear to be related to Mexico, rather than Canada.

"I think he's tracking in the same direction so we'll watch and wait. We'll work with the Americans and the new administration and on some of these areas I think we track sort of in the same direction, trending on the same lines," Day said.

Sherry Cooper, chief economist for BMO Capital Markets, agreed Obama is unlikely to introduce sweeping economic policies that will harm Canada.

In a news release, she said changes Obama might make to NAFTA would impact Mexico more than Canada "because they will deal with the assurance of environmental and labour practices already in force in Canada."

Cooper also said Obama's willingness to support the major North American automakers could benefit Canada, as could his economic stimulus plan.

Obama's first major decision as president-elect should ease fears that he may become more protectionist via NAFTA.

Obama has offered the job of White House Chief of Staff to Congressman Rahm Emanuel, according to Democratic insiders.

Emanuel was a key proponent of NAFTA during his time as an aide in the Clinton White House.

Please Add Comments( )

greenObama

Harper will miss his friend Bush and I hope Obama refuses to buy oil from the oil sands. There, I said it!

Shane Prpich

I pray that Obama stands up against Harper and the Neo-Con agenda!

Peace on Earth and goodwill to all men!

Benny Guan : from Edmonton

I think that Steven Harper and Barack Obama will make relationship between Canada and the United States.

JFJ

We've always had excellent relations with our friends to the south notwithstanding offensive personal attacks on US leaders uttered periodically by Liberals.

Harper will continue to avoid the backslapping style of Mulroney and Chretien and maintain a business-like relationship. We need each other.

Nothing will change.

Doug

Harper was probably standing by his phone all day so he could be first one to call the new US president.

Mike

Harper is a "RED" conservative. What can he have in common with a moderate democrat ? The answer is his fundamental believes are different than Obamas and we will have no meeting of the minds unless Harper reexamines and leaves behind his far right economic and social platforms.

Jeff (London)

People are kidding themselves if they think Obama will do anything but run to the middle. He's a pragmatist, like Harper, and our relations with the U.S. will be governed by that principle. No major changes are on the horizon.

5th Generation Canadian

We can only hope that our neo-con government will be somewhat tempered by a fresh breeze from the south.

Congratulations to President-elect Obama and to the people of the United States who had the sense to vote for him.

DCR-Toronto

Congratulations Mr. Obama. Harper and Obama will get along very well. They have many similar policys. For those who call the Conservatives here in Canada , neo-cons. It shows the complete lack of knowledge of the political scale between our two countries. a Conservative in Canada, is way more left than a Conservative in the US. ...People will see that Harper and Obama will get along fine. As for Obama not buying Canadian oil...That is one of he funniest things I've heard in awhile. I guess you'd rather have our jobs gone, and Obama would have to want to pay a lot more from countries the US doesn't even like. They don't even consider our oil "foreign". America eats energy like no other country, and we are the biggest suppliers. ...

H. Jones

Let's sit down and work it out together

Let's hope both countries be friends and put away the differences.

Let's have a brand new start. Stop the war, send the soldiers back home. Creat more jobs for everybody.

Expecially for Mr. Harper, please be a good listener! Have an open mind! Say goodbye to your bubby - Bush. He's done, over with! Thank God!

Alberta Joe

I wish the Liberal and NDP whiners would quit for once and just accept that Mr. Harper is the best person for all of Canada.

We can be confident that he will continue to promote and achieve Canada's best interests with the new U.S administration, in these turbulent times.

History has shown that the hype to anything is always greater than what is or can be delivered.
In my life the only hype that has lived up to its superlatives, is the statue of David.
People temper your enthuisasm.

Christne - a Harper fan

I really like Prime Minister Harper but when he meets Obama I hope some of the charisma and vision casting rubs off on Harper....that would help a lot.

DRH

It may be early but I'm waiting for all the liberal hacks to jump in here and start calling Mr. Harper an "Obama Clone"?
The bottom line is the democrats(Liberals) and the republicans(Conservatives) do not see eye to eye. Get used to the fact that our economy just took another turn for the worst after last night Dem. win.

Justin.. correcting mike the fool.

... Being a red conservative means you are more center/left in your social views... hmmm.. much like... OBAMA! Two high ranking conservative cabinet ministers were at the Democratic convention. Harper and Obama will get along pretty well I bet.

Ken

"I wish the Liberal and NDP whiners would quit for once and just accept that Mr. Harper is the best person for all of Canada."

You may think that, but remember, most of us don't. He is an embarrassment for Canada, with or without his sweater vests.

Does no one understand that on the political spectrum, the democrats are still more right then our conservatives. Who ever thinks Obama is not right-winged compared to Canadian politics is kidding themselves. He's a great man don't get me wrong, but you need to understand what you are talking about.

Rob (AB)

To JG

You are bang on, please people get informed before you post these embarrassing comments about Harper's neo-conservatives and how he is a George Bush clone. I mean you totally take away from the educated left wingers who make valid argruments.

Yuri

Ken said:
"I wish the Liberal and NDP whiners would quit for once and just accept that Mr. Harper is the best person for all of Canada."

"You may think that, but remember, most of us don't. He is an embarrassment for Canada, with or without his sweater vests."

Apparently more of us Canadian's do than don't that is why after this past election he is still PM and I suspect that our government and the US under Obama will get along fine. They need our resources to run their economic engine. With some proper jockeying this new US government under Obama may bode very well for Canada.

Ian Ottawa

You American Bashers make me Puke. The first to arrive with Aid around the world are the Americans. The fact that the Majority of American's are far more patriotic is a great thing. If you were ever caught de-facing the War Memorials in the U.S. you would end up in jail and not be a Hero in Quebec or amongst your peer's. How many males leave there hats on during the National Anthem in the U.S. compared to Canada? The American Basher's give everyone a bad name in Canada and some of us appreciate the good things about them. No they have faults as do all places but Bush is no a prime example of what all American's are like. As for the Harper basher's, just take a look back at the damage the Liberal's did ... to the Canadian/American relations.

Davey boy

Sounds like there's still a little bitterness from the Harper election win. It's unfortunate people don't know good Governance when it's right before them. Carry on with the good work Stephen Harper. Canada is slowly ( no thanks to the Liberals) once again becoming a proud and strong nation

Omer

when our own, canadian version of Obama come - you know, the popular, very charismatic, young, and captivating leader...

The 4 old guys in ottawa just don't cut it. Oh and Jack Layton, you are NO barack obama, stop pretending to be.

Hung up in Manitoba

Guess Harper's staff missed the Barack Obama appearance on John Stewart when Obama commented on working on a goal with outfits like folks who are against polar bear hunting. You know what, Im tired of the knuckle heads half this country didnt vote for making fools out of us. Whats unacceptable, is this country who lacks the talent to replace current leader, should anything truly happen. If you wanna hang yourself, thats fine, but dont take us with you.

Bluenose

I am so sick of hearing certain lefties on here call PM Harper a neo-con. These un-educatad individuals have no idea what a neo-con is.
Harper is so far ahead of the naysayers, and actually has a great comprehension of what's going on with Canada/US relations. His current pick for Foreign Affairs and others as well attended the Democratic Convention in Denver, and were hard at work, making in-roads with foresight to the future Democratic win. So, all you people with nothing good to say, obviously have no idea. Harper was so far ahead of all the Left wing nuts, getting work and preparation done, while all they can do is condemn every move.
Hey Liberals, NDP, etc. Get back to reality. You are never going to be a party, nor have a win like Barack Obama. Time to stand behind your PM, be proud of Canada, and act like mature adults.

Jim in Edmonton

Some of the comments are simply silly! Don't buy oilsands oil? Ha, who do you think paid for the production of this oil? And now they won't take it ... right. Besides India or China would love to have our oil. If the conservative are so "neo" how come they increased their seats in our latest election? People wake up, Canada is a business, a country, a people and Mr. Harper will be doing his best to advance our interests. Just be thankful we live here in our comfort and our freedom where some people can make bone headed comments that reflect little sense or value. If you don't agree with the conservative approach, run for office, open your wallet or oppose on the basis of facts!

Canadian in Michigan

The main this means for Canada is that we'll elect a Liberal gvernment the next time around. Just consider history: Hoover and Bennett, FDR then King, Eisenhower then Diefenbaker, Kennedy then Peason, Carter and Trudeau. Reagan then Mulroney, Clinton and Chretien, Bush then Harper, all usuallly offset by a couple of years on account of differnt election cycles. So, the Conservatives might as well accept that the writing is on the wall.

Wes in Sask.

I think it is time that all political parties started working together toward the betterment of Canada instead of this constant bickering as to who is the best.

R. Cecil McBurney

I for one is so glad that the American Election is over, I think the Canadian media coverage was way over the top. One thing that CCanadian politicians and reporters should copy is the civility and ssincereness of both leaders in their speeches. They call their president president elect not Obama unlike Canadians who call our Prime Minister Harper. No wonderr Canadians have no pride in their country

CoreyL

I don't know where people get off calling our gov't neo-con. Conservatives in Canada are further left than Democrats in the US -- its a completely different political culture. And to the person who says he hopes the oil-sands are shut down -- what an idiotic thing to say. That oil is the economic engine that is driving Canada right now - and with Ontario now accepting hand-outs, I would think people would be grateful that we as a country still have a source of income.

jay

Instead of Obama standing up to the NEo-cons, its more like Harper standing up to the Obama Socialists! I really wish we could trade you guys Harper for Obama. At least Canada conservative party understand capitalism!

David Griffith

Think about it: which party would have the best chance of getting along with the US -- one who works cooperatively with them or one that spends its time uttering anti-American sentiment for domestic political gain? Hmm?

Marg

Too bad we don't take some of the good of the american politics here too... No more then 8 years in office and the leader is gone... None of this call an election to try to maintain power longer.
I couldn't wait to see Bush replaced. His father was a far better president than he as history books will show, however history will show the fallacies of Harper as well. We are on the brink of hard times in Canada and Harper can't cut it! He still has a minority government so yes the people spoke but still not with enough voices to give him carte blanche and a darn good thing in my thinking. He's not trustyworthy enough for that anymore than any of the other leaders in the race for Prime Minister this last time round! Don't gloat, it doesn't become you Canadians.
President-elect Obama I wish you well. You've made history and a chance to show the world what can be done with a real man in the office of president of the USA.

bunny

Bush was never a GREAT pal of OUR PM.I am so happy that it is Obama and Harper! no more silly Bush lite, or bush buddy.He kept Bush at arms lenghth.he really admired Tony Blair..
But now a new reason to be come allies with the USA, I am thrilled..

Joe

JFJ… the liberal shots to Bushes Administration was in response to Bushes constant bullying of the then Canadian Government over our involvement in Iraq and the War on Terror… his administration started the attacks not the Liberals, and former Republican appointed U.S. Ambassador to Canada, PAUL CELLUCI still can't keep his mouth shut, stiringr up Canadian resentment to Republicans in the U.S.

Ken - Calgary

I absolutely can't wait for Obama to shut the door to Alberta's oilsands and send a clear message to Harper and Stelmach, that it's time for clean air, not dirty oil.

New World

... Harper is not far from where Bush was. You are confusing the PROGRESSIVE Conservatives of the past with this new Conservative Government, they are not similar at all. Harper is not even close to Center. ...

Enlighten me please!

WOW! With so many political experts on these forums over the past couple of months there seems no excuse for Canada not to be the most well run country in the world. Now, amazingly you have all become experts in American politics as well. This is great, with this new breed of political powers to be, Canada is sure to be the next world superpower!

RRR

Shane Prpich wrote: "I pray that Obama stands up to Harper and the Neo-con Agenda!"

One has to laugh at this remark. What happened to everbody screaming that Harper is American style and should stand up against the Americans. People were saying we don't want American Politics - we are different in Canada. Now all of a sudden if we don't do what the Americans do we are out of touch. This is truly hilarious. Most of Canada is against the war in Afghanistan and now that Barack wants to escalate the war in Afghanistan I suppose Canada will have to go along or all these idiots who complain about Canada being too American, will be having a fit if Canada doesn't go along with Obama! Where is the rationale? Give me a break, some people are so naive.

JPB

I can't stand listening to all the lefties talking about Harper's 'buddy' Bush. ...I've worked with and still know many people on Harper's team. These two men (Harper and Bush) come from VERY different backgrounds and I don't think their personalities have really ever meshed. They actually have a pretty mundane, arms-length relationship.

The relationship I'm looking forward to watching is that between Obama and the UK's next PM David Cameron. A young, modern conservative who has much in common with the new US President.

buck

ok canada liberals have spoken in the u.s. listen up everyone.

Robert White

There is no parallel between the big two Canadian parties and the big two American parties. Both Canadian parties resemble the American Democratic party more than they resemble the American Republican party, despite what you may have heard from Canadian Liberals.

MuskyBuck

I agree with most of the posts.

Harpers politics are throw back. 1950's era thinking conservatives have nothing in common with a progressive democrat who wants to move to a social and innovation platform.

Harper will look like an older cousin who's choices in life has made him the blacksheep of the family.

Beyond that, they'll get along great.

Jesse James

Albert Einstein once said, “Try not to become a person of success, but rather a person of value.” This is what Obama has done. This is what alot of politicians cannot understand. While I don't nessessarily think Stephen Harper is the right man for the job here, who is? In my opinion, Canada and the United States will continue to be great friends. Harper and Obama will work together. The Canadian and american people are binded together, we ar basically the same. We have the same values, beliefs and share this great land. I would like to say one more thing. Without the sacrifices that our (Canadian and American) Veterans and service men and women have made and continue to make, it might not be possible for Barack Obama to what do what he has done. The great spirit of these people must always be remembered because our freedom has come at a great cost. We can all show how much we appreciate them with a small message of gratitude to anyone who has ever served this country.

Pete Byerlay

The Barack Obama victory is something to be celebrated on both sides of the border. Obama is no stranger to Canada. His sister is married to a man who came from Burlington, Ontario. Obama and his wife have been there, and have also visited Toronto and Niagara Falls, Canada. But that was before we knew his name, so nobody took notice. I believe he will be a good friend, and I hope that Prime Minister Harper cultivates that friendship. At last, an American President who thinks more like a Canadian.

Zircon

I just have to laugh at all the partisan comments that parrot any similarity between Bush and Stephen Harper. Canadian Conservatives are in many ways much more closely akin to American Democrats than Republicans.
Prime Minister Harper and President Obama are both intelligent and articulate men who will without question (in my mind at least), improve relations between our countries - to the benefit of both.

Harper indeed had a close relationship with Bush - I swear they were twins and therefore, no, he won't see eye to eye with Obama. Obama is not Bush. Sorry, Harper, it's going to get difficult for you. That man is light years ahead of you.

Ian from N.B,

I want this to work for everyone. I truly do want the President and Prime Minister to get along and be open and level headed with each other, not just blithly shooting each other down and comming to loggerheads with each other.
That being said, I can't begin to start on Day boasting about Canada's environment plan, which is crap, reducing the amount by 2050 is not a plan it's a month old band-aid clinging to a haemorrhaging wound. While being a staunch Liberal, I will conceed that Harper does an all-right job looking at 'The Now', but he is terrible for securing an effective future for the next generation, something that Dion would have been great for. Instead Harper pandered for the 'Why me?' crowd and shot down any attempt to slow down this worlds environmental crisis. Hopefully we'll have Obama give Harper the revelation he needs to start preparing for the next generation.

Jeff Lewis

... The Tories got 37% of the vote. While that's the largest block, which is why the have control of Parliament, that means 63% of the people voted *against* him.

He certainly does NOT represent the majority of Canadians who voted for left-wing parties.

Canada's Twin#1

Mr.Day you and your party can do the same and respect the relationship with the USA. I for one would get the National Security Regulator in place please and its about time Canada does something about the drugs its bringing in where you fast track them through the FDA. Canadaian are tired of the open Human Research in Medical Clinicial Trails that is rampent with no oversight or inspectors. In BC they say they need 20,000 women for trail 3 and 4. Who else doesnt get told they have cancer when they do. The BC scandel. Obama wouldnt support what is being done to our Universal Health Care system.

john and linda ormiston

i read a comment on here regarding american bashing and all our problems, ian ottawa, thank you for your comments, i wish other people would just shut up and start being descent canadians, as far as i am concerned i wonder if they would run the country any better, or would they. The Americans took to the polls yesturday and made dynamic history last night, never would i have thought they would have done what they did,many thanks go to those americans that did what we cant, vote for the right person to do the job CONGRATULATIONS AMERICANS AND TO PRESIDENT ELECT BARACK OBAMA, may god be with you in your journey.

Guythegood

CNN featured excerpts of congratulatory messages from a number of world leaders... a lot of them claimed special relationships ( UK, Israel etc...) Was Canada even mentionned ? What do you think ?

Some 'special relationship' ...

Gavin

With Bush out of Government maybe the Opposition will stop cheap shotting the Conservatives with the Bush card and try to work with the government to better Canada as a whole.

Cry me a River!

For all of you people bashing Prime Minister Harper while whining about moving forward, NEWS FLASH: People like you are preventing us from doing just that. He won the election, like it or love it. Now get over it. He's not going anywhere in the next 4 years because (1) he's not likely to call another snap election again and (2) there is no viable alternative on the horizon. Suck it up! Help your fellow countrymen by a least pretending that you care about Canada and make this parliament work for you, the people who voted him in to power again!

Sue

Obama himself has called Canada's health care system "Extreme Socialism" not suitable for the US. So even with a Conservative government in office, were still "China North" to them.

Further, it isn't Obama standing up to Harper you should be worried about. It's the other way around when the NAFTA talks start.

edd

To the LIB-CONS

The election is over. You didn't win. Get over it.

The rest of us are tired of hearing your worn out rhetoric. If you can't be constructive, shut up.

Chief Sinner

I agree with cry me a river. Whining and complaining never accomplished anything and never will.

We must stop forgetting about "Self" and "Our Opinions" and being so concerned about "Our right".

We should focus on the primary aspects of living in a great country and that is a sense of duty, to each and everyone of us, supporting our government, since we did put them in power and also, whatever happened to our "Obligations" as citizens.

I think it is our "obligation" as citizens to challenge one another to do better and also, to challenge the newly elected President of the U.S., to work with Canada on strengthening our relationship with one another and the world.

We already live in a pretty dark and evil world if you really look at it, but we can and should along with the new President bring hope into that dark evil world, to give those who need hope, the "hope" they are looking for.

john

It is totally amazing the ideology of Canadians. Are we so totally blind to what a protectionist American President means for Canada. As a pro American individual, Obama is great for the US. He will in no uncertain terms always without a second thought put the US first. As a Canadian....WELCOME TO HELL.

RRO

For all those Liberals saying Obama will not be able to work with Harper. You better look at your own party, in fact in some cases you better look at your own blogging history, because Liberals have BASHED AMERICANS for years, long before Bush. ...
Harper and Obama both did a great thing,they tossed out a political party that had been in power for far to long. Both are pragmatic leaders and centrists at heart. Obama supports the war in Afganistan and wants to make it his focus as he pulls troops out of Iraq. Harper is the only foreign leader right now, willing to put our troops in the hard parts of the country. That alone will help them form a bond. Both have concerns about Mexico and its role in NAFTA. Both realize the importance of US and Canadian trade. Most US politicians do not view Canadian oil as foreign oil because of the large amount of American investment.

At the end of the day I can see Obama and Harper having a strong relationship. Harper has had a policy of working closly with the United States and I think that will continue. I do not believe the crap that its all about being friend with George W. , its about being friends with the US. Harper will continue that and I believe Obama will embrace it.

Jasper

Harper managed to keep Canada -US relations positive while Bush was in power. Harper is no dummy. He restored the relationship after the Chretien years. He should have an easier time with Obama. I doubt if Harper will be visiting the Bush ranch ever again. He knows that it is in the best interest of Canadians to keep the relationship positive. It is called diplomacy. There are so many annoying little things the US can do to to affect our trade and commerce if they are annoyed with Canada.

John in Calgary

Drop the final "A" in NAFTA and just make it NAFT. No agreement, just Free Trade. Let the markets decide. Yes we will lose jobs but we will also gain jobs. No more boarder to cross; just make it like Europe, where the only way you can tell that you've crossed into another country is by the different colour of road.

Becky

Congratulations to Mr. Obama. I am a Conservative supporter in Canada and I believe that a Democratic Presidency in the US will actually align the US more closely with Canada.In other words, as Canada moves more to the right and the US moves more to the left, we become more alike--we meet in the middle, you might say. I hope both countries will find a niche which is primarily capitalist, but with a social conscience.

Jay in Ottawa

A couple of things to point out:
1) I agree with Ian...Canadians tend to bash the americans more then nessacary..We are far from perfect, as we tend to only complain about things non-stop whereas the Americans tend to jump into things quicker...nobody is perfect.

2) As far as Obama not wanting our oil...well good. When he re-opens NAFTA hopefully our govt. will have the brains to remove Electricty then from it so that it can be taxed. And then we can enjoy our own oil, and make up the income with Electricity.

3) I think that the likely reason that Harper is our PM is that we know we can trust him a bit more then the Liberals...and trusting your leader is a valuable thing.

LL from Brantford

My comment relative to the story : Relations between Harper and Obama will be good, cordial, and productive.

Now: Somebody please help me out. I suffered all through the Cdn. election with the term Neo-Con and I've seen it appear on this story's thread. What the heck does that mean ? People always seemed to use it against Harper as a derogatory term. Neo is a prefix meaning "New" so were people saying he was a "New" Conservative ? Is that bad ? Am I missing the point or is it that people want to sound intellectual, but in reality have no idea what it means ? Help me.

Harper was not a friend of Bush!!!!

...No wonder there is trouble with the dysfunctional opposition, it comes from dysfunctional Canadian citizens. Give it a break and accept living in the best country.

Harper is doing a great job. Be happy and be reasonable. ....

Calling All Potential Politicians!

With all the enthusiasm surrounding Obama worldwide, my hope is that Canadians realize that we do not have to settle for the hum-drum political stylings of Stephen Harper and his gang. Surely we have politically-minded women and men in this country who are more capable than Harper is of uniting this country and making us shine on the world stage. Be they Right or Left, Canada needs a new breed of politician to come out of the shadows - and fast!

Doug BC

Obamas biggest challenges will be in the USA.Not with any foreign powers.There are lobbyists lining up right now expecting their cause to be at the head of the list.
The lumber lobby,the cattle association,the farm lobby,etc,etc.They expect to bring jobs home to the USA by keeping foreign goods out.
As to Mr.Harper getting along with Obama,I doubt that ideology will be the big problem.The socialists in Canada,and of course Ralph Goodale,refer to Harper as a "neo-con".What has to be recognized is that Harper would be considered quite "liberal" in most parts of the USA.If you want to see "neo-con",I doubt you can do it in Canada.
I think things could go bad for Canada.It would be difficult to replace America as a marketplace for our exports.BUT,there is a chance,albeit slim,that Obama will recognize the value of strong allies,with strong economies.There,like here in Canada,the jobs are leaving for China,Mexico,etc.
Personally,I don't have a lot of faith in the man.He runs great campaigns,and speaks very well.Other than that,I see little reason to think he's a lot brighter than G.W. on the real issues of the day.It's easy enough to fool the voters.Or have them vote for you because they don't like the other guy.Governing is an entirely different matter.
And,if you look at the "popular vote",it looks like the USA,like us,is a country somewhat divided.

Brent - BC

The election of Barak Obama does not bode well for the forest industry and the Soft Wood Lumber Agreement will be seriously challenged by the US forest industry lobby, which is considerable. Get ready for increased tariffs. Maybe this is the final warning to the forest industry to seriously look for other markets for our forest products, and stop exporting raw logs.

Sierra

Sorry to burst the bubble of the Liberal movement in Canada but idealogically Obama is closer to Harper than Dion or any of the Liberal hopefuls.

Charles, Northern British Columbia, Canada

Well I hope that Barack Obama can help Stephan Harper feel for the First Nations people like the way he(Barack) has.

I won't hold my breath though, Harper is too much like George Bush Jr. I will keep praying though.

Justin Trudeau! Run for the Liberal Leadership. You are Canada'a closest thing to Barack Obama.

Charles, Northern British Columbia, Canada

Barack Obama you are our not only the leader of the UNITED STATES but for CANADA as well.

Stephan Harper is no leader.

Lynn

After watching the election speaches last night I can understand why American's are so patriotic. They believe in a united country and working for a common goal. I am a born and raised Canadian and am embarrassed by the amount of negative energy we spend putting our leaders down. We are so lucky to live in a democratic country where we can vote. We did ...so grow up and put your energy into positive actions to move this country forward. Have you heard of "United we stand...Divided we fall"?

Brian AB

Wow just wow you NDP and Liberal LOSERS just have to let it go you lost its over its time to try and unite to make our country great again.

Get over the nit picking and move on already :)

RobO

Wow, Just reading the comments here, are some what un-nerving. Our election is over and the US justed ended theres, but the fear the people are trying to spread is scary.

Gee's people, lets get Obama in power in January 09, then you can start the scare tactics.

For all the Liberal/NDP folks, you lost so get over it and maybe help you country develop instead of trying to tear it apart.

Plus always remember one thing, you might get what you wish for.

PROTECTIONISM - The US is well know for it. Not only will this screw up the ecomonic system, but it will hurt everyone, Liberal/NDP or Con.

So maybe think before you wish.

Hoss

"Feds confirm plan to seek climate deal with Obama"
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This title is nothing more than Harper wants to indicate and pretend that he will have better cooperation with Obama. I greatly doubt. Harper has a completly different ideology and whatever he pretends, he will not have his heart and mind with Obama

Brian AB

OMG folks with all the american bashing and tory bashing here you guys almost make me ashamed to be Canadian GROW UP!!!!!

Alex (Toronto)

The Conservative bloggers should remember that 63% of Canadian voters rejected the Tory government. They didn't win a majority, they don't have a mandate, and if they continue to pretend they got a majority, they will continue to face sharp criticism for their excessive partisanship. Past Liberal minority governments have done well for voters by working with other parties; if the Conservatives could figure out that their job is to try to govern for all Canadians...they might hold onto Parliament for a while.

American voters have finally come to their senses and seen the damage that the Republicans have done. That's going to have an effect on Canada.

5th Generation Canadian

Sorry DCR-Toronto; you seem to think that there is still some "Progressive" component in the current Conservative government. Long gone.

elizabeth Vancouver/Quadra

The Bali Summit 6 months ago negotiated into the wee hours of the morning in order to keep the U.S. at the table. It was felt that after the election there would be a democratic government that supported the environment.The Cdn. federal govt leaked that Harper had instructed Canada's negotiators to block any forward motion.

On the first day of the Bali Summit Australia announced they would support the climate initiative. John Howard was no longer in power. A new administration that did not support the Iraq invasion and was anxious to support climate change initiatives.

850 US mayors have signed onto Kyoto. Change is happening at a grass roots level. Canada has won several fossil awards at the Bali Summit. It has been embarrassing to see Canada on the international stage-not only not supporting but running interference.

Harper would be smart to have Elizabeth May play a role because certainly no one in his party has a "clue". John Baird, the abrasive pit pull has been an embarrassment and Rhona Ambrose - well, we won't go there.

I am thrilled to see Obama get in. Instead of fearmongering the public needs to realize that going green does not mean the economy will collapse. Read Thomas Friedman's new book "Flat, Hot and Crowded" the U.S.'s top economist has gone green and sees that the U.S. needs to lead the world in "green technology".

Here in BC we already have a carbon tax & have a climate initiative that includes California, Oregon, Washingon. Needless to say Alberta is not part of it. They don't even believe in climate change.

Harper will need to change or he will be left behind.

Alex (Toronto)

@john
Talk about Democratic protectionism is just more Conservative fear-mongering. Kim Campbell was on the news last night making the point that American jobs are being lost to countries in Asia, not to NAFTA partners. Obama, unlike his Republican predecessors, is smart enough to understand this and, more importantly, smart enough to appoint economic advisers who get how things work. The Republican obsession with security and paranoia has been a far greater obstacle to free trade than any policy any Democrat is likely to come up with. Except for the most regressive Conservatives, Canadians have nothing to fear with any environmental or labour policies the Americans come up with that they'd agree to also apply to themselves. Canadians have benefited greatly from the FTA and NAFTA, and they will benefit from any new proposals to strengthen ties between our countries. Expect opposition to improved environmental standards to come from Harper, not from the Americans.

Mr. Me

greenObama: if you are truly anti-oil, you better sell everything you own and move into the forest ... because everything you have is based on energy. If you intended just oil-sands, do you have a better alternative?

nsrob

I can not for the life of me,as a canadian think that a democrat in the white house would be or could be a good thing for canada, spin it sure, hope for the best.
but this newly elected president has already stated that he is going to reopen natfa. Not good for ontario. not buy dirty oil from Alberta. What do we have left, more lumber and cattle disputes (already happening) be careful what you ask for you just may get it

nc in Alberta

A North American initiative on this makes sense.

Does this mean Mr.Harper now believes that "supposed global warming" is a real
problem or that he is just trying to align himself with a leader that a majority of Canadians respect?

At any rate, it seems Obama's superior leadership skills and wide popularity are already pulling our politicians in the correct direction.

That's good news for us all.

Brett (Vancouver)

...Harper is not an embarrassment at all. He is the best Prime Minister this country has ever seen. ...
Love will always prevail. Go Harper!

Gar Y

Actually Harper and Obama will get along very well. They both are pragmatists, control freaks (their tightly scribed campaigns tell you that), tend to be quick studies, know what they know well, have a firm vision of what they want to do and get it down just under the radar(while their opponents are distracted by the "trivial"), have a fair amount of arrogrance and an emotional distance in their personalities. Yup they will get along great- they both like challenges and will enjoy the political chessmatch between the countries.

Of course Obama has the spirit of the poet in him and in his speeches feeds well the paramount need for entertainment value with the " if you want me to vote rock me crowd". He knows it and uses it skillfully with the masses.

If you are old enough you will remember we have seen this before - their names were Trudeau and Stanfield and you know where that led.

But the truly great news is that Obama has a vision for the right things that people need and his real success is the "Free at Last" spirit he released last night in Jesse Jackson's Tears and young African American smiles. And if he can't get it done, the good news is that he has greatly expanded the pool of people from which someone might emerge who can.

Martin of NS

I agree with Becky.

Canada is moving further right and America is moving left. We're almost at the point that we're meeting in the centre of the political spectrum. I think Harper and Obama will get along fine. Obama sounds like he is all about co-operation and Harper seems to be interested in keeping a close relationship with the United States.

The world wanted Obama, and the United States delivered. Thank you!

Jesse James

I Find it funny that we Canadians will wait until after an election to voice our opinions about our leaders. All the complaints, fears about the future, the environment. Shouldn't we have been stating these feelings before or during an election? and look at the voter turnout in canada 56%!!!! "IF YOU DON'T GET IVOLVED IN THE POLITICS OF YOUR COUNTRY, YOU'LL BE GOVERNED BY THOSE WHO DO."

keith

Will people stop comparing Harper to the Republican party of Rush Limbaugh, George Bush etc?

The Conservative party here is much more to the center-left when plotted on the American left-right scale.

The neo-con comments are coming off as incredibly uninformed and childish!

Lee in Calgary

To those who seem to beleive the election of Barrack Obama will lead to the end of the war in Afghanistan you should do some fact checking and update yourselves.

His position is very clear on this issue, he favours a huge increase in US military activity in Afghanistan while reducing and eventually eliminating US military action in Iraq. He is also on record as recently as last week of saying the NATO countries much do more, although it should be noted that he praised the UK, Canada and Denmark for taking on the most difficult fighting and seemed to come down hard on Germany and France for avoiding the heavy lifting.

I think Canadians may be shocked to learn that proposals are circulating to contractors for the building of 4 additional brigade sized (4000 plus soliders)camps with another one currently under construction. For those of you that can't do the math you can expect an additional 15-20,000 US troops to be committed before Bush leaves office with Obama's agreement and that by the end of 2009 those troops will be in place and engaged.

If the surge works as it did in Iraq, Afghanistan will be pacified by 2011 and hopefully the Canadian Forces will be able to rotate out knowing they played their part and are leaving victoriously and not simply turning the fight over to another countries son's and daughter's.

Carl, Calgary, Alberta

I am a born Canadian. My Great Grandfather an American. I spent a large portion of my working life in USA (driving long haul) and the only reasonable thing to do for any elected official of both sides of the border is to befriend each other and work together. Something we lost in the Trudeau era. This ONE LARGE North America need to stand united, work together, share intelligence, et al.....
God Bless Obama, God Bless harper, and my God richly BLESS The North American Cont.

Gail in NS

Political parties - in particular, Canadian parties - have changed SO MUCH in the past decade. You people cannot keep judging today's parties by the parties of yesterday - they are no where near the same! A Liberal in 2008 is not the same as Liberals from 1998. A Conservative today is not the same as a PC or Reform from ten years or so ago.

It is time for people to step back and LISTEN to what the candidates are saying instead of what you think the party represents before you jump to these conclusions.

Harper is no where near a Bush-clone but has little resemblance to Obama's policies either. The one thing they do have in common, that I feel is a huge positive and may make this work, is that both gentlemen have that calm and steady demeanor that keeps tempers and panic at bay. They CAN make this work, and build a better relationship between our two countries - one more like a partnership than the alternating obnoxiousness and kowtowing we have seen in the past. Have some faith. They told Obama he "couldn't" do it, and he did. So can we :)

Mike R

To all those whining about Harpers low key approach to leadership:

Get real! What you want a rock star for a leader? Want Hollywood to cough one up for you? The American election is more about popularity than it is politics - or ability. That's the approach tried by the parties in our own election, trying to be rock stars. I don't want a hug from our leader, i want a person that can run the country. That's Harper, not Bono, not a populist.

As for Harper and Obama, they will get along just fine.

I'm glad harper's best friend Bush is gone. I personally like Obama much better than harper and wished he was our prime minister with a majority.