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Date: Mon. Oct. 20 2008 9:06 PM ET
Liberal Leader Stephane Dion announced Monday that he will stay on as head of his party only until the next party convention, when he will step down so the party can choose a new leader.
"I have informed the president of the Liberal Party of Canada and the president of the national caucus that I will stay as leader until a new leader is chosen at a leadership convention that I have asked to be organized," Dion said at a much anticipated press conference in Ottawa.
Dion said he will stay on as leader to prepare the Liberals for an orderly transition under a new leader.
Dion, who helped formulate the Clarity Act, said he came to politics to help keep Canada united, and he fought for a fairer, richer Canada "for the next generation." But he said Canadians did not learn about the "real" Stephane Dion, blaming Conservative "propaganda" for misrepresenting his leadership and goals.
He said Canadians only learned about the true Dion during the leadership debates, where he said he was told he gave good performances.
"Canadians did not know this Stephane Dion. They knew another one ... they believed that (the other) character was real," he said, referring to the Conservative attacks.
"I want to see that the next leader is not as vulnerable to the low propaganda that was directed against me."
Dion also said his Green Shift carbon emissions plan was misrepresented. He said most Canadians believed that it was just a carbon tax, something that concerned them as the economy worsened.
But Dion defended his plan, calling it the vanguard of environmental policy. However, the beleaguered Liberal leader did not say whether or not he will run in the next federal election.
"One step at a time," he said.
Liberals look to rebuild
Dion's Liberals suffered one of their biggest election defeats in party history on Oct. 14, winning only 76 seats, a 27-seat decline from 2006. Stephen Harper's Conservatives didn't win a majority but increased their seat-advantage in a minority government.
After Dion's press conference, Conservative strategist Goldy Hyder praised Dion's dedication to his party and Canada, but he said the Liberal leader missed the central point of the campaign.
"There's a certain amount of naiveté in his comments ... This is politics," he told CTV Newsnet.
Hyder said the Conservatives were better financed and had a better media strategy because their message resonated with voters.
"Money follows the message," he said, noting that the Liberal Party has bigger problems to deal with than just picking a new leader.
Liberal strategist Greg MacEachern admitted that the Grits need to rethink their fundraising efforts.
"We have to do a better job, frankly," he said.
Bob Rae, the Liberal foreign affairs critic who won his Toronto-area riding last week and is considered a top leadership contender, said the party has a lot of rebuilding to do.
He called Dion "a man of real determination," but noted the party was at a "moment of reflection."
"We have to renew the party. We have to renew the membership of the party. We have to open up the membership. We have to renew the finances of the party. There's lots of work to be done," Rae told CTV Newsnet's Mike Duffy Live in Toronto on Monday evening.
But the former Ontario premier wouldn't say if he would run for the Liberal leadership, saying only that he will make up his mind in the next few weeks.
A more effective fundraising campaign helped the Tories air a series of ads about the Liberals and Dion, even before the election writ was dropped. The ad campaign focused on Dion's leadership characteristics and suggested that he was a weak and ineffectual leader.
"They were able to have those ads up early. Those ads were able to do a devastating job of defining Mr. Dion," MacEachern said.
Dion came to power as the head of the Liberal Party on a green platform after a hard fought convention in 2006. But his environmental stand may have been Dion's ultimate downfall, CTV's Ottawa Bureau Chief Robert Fife told Newsnet on Monday afternoon.
Fife said many senior Liberals, including his former leadership rivals Rae and Michael Ignatieff, warned Dion that if he based the Liberal campaign on a carbon tax "it would be an electoral disaster."
The decline in Liberal seats after the election has made Mr. Dion quite unpopular, Fife said. "He's going to have a great deal of trouble trying to control this party as he stays on as interim leader," he said.
Liberal Party President Doug Ferguson released a statement saying Dion's decision to stay on as interim leader will help the party.
"As Party President I welcome Mr. Dion's decision to lead the Liberal Party and the Liberal Caucus until a successor is duly selected. We feel this course of action will ensure stability at this important time in our party's history," he said.
The statement said the party's constitution calls for a convention date to be set within the next 27 days and a convention date will be announced in the coming weeks.
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I applaud the budget, even though Health Care and education may stay unscathed. Sadly this cannot last and I worry to later this year where cuts will become enviable. If anything, this provides the Wildrose Alliance plenty of ammo when an election is called.


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Sam in London
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Ben from Hanover, NH
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R Arsenault
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R Arsenault
Moncton, NB
Scott
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Jan
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Mike
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GatzBerg
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Go back to the drawing board!!!
john from kw
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More Canadians voted for the Conservative party than for either the Liberals, the NDP, the Greens or anyother party.
Just because those people "do not reflect your vision of a Canadian" they are no less Canadian than you are.
Let's all support our Government!
Brad in Edmonton
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opinion
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Thanks Mr Dion for your insight.
The truth!!!!!
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Michael (Ottawa)
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Decades of doing politics only for the purpose of retaining power has not only corrupted Canada's social fabric it has caught up and finaly destroyed the Liberal party itself but not yet where they need to be in order to be humbled so they can rebuild properly.
Their values are inverted, they don't represent the Canadian family any longer and any chattering self interest group gets their attention if they will vote for them like the NDP do.
The Liberals at best are a margionalized regional political party with erroding support in Toronto, Quebec and Atlantic Canada and void of any measurable support in western Canada.
They are washed up but their inflated egos and arrogant pride haven't allowed then to see reality yet.
Good bye Dion, you should have listened and not been such an intellectual snob to think you could just bulldoze your ideas against our will... This is a victory for democracy as well as the Tories.
Drake
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Perhaps the next heir to the Liberal throne can save us the cost and donate $300M into something that will benefit the rest of us rather than one of their own's ego.
All Ontario Party!
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Cons won less than 40% of the overall vote and were supported by less than 30% of Canadians. Their 10 percentage points extra in votes secured double the number of seats. We WILL revise Canada's election system. The West will have what it deserves, less seats, and will reflect their proportional vote. As too this election, Harper had a majority going in, based on the poles, he knew it and that is why he called this election. Harper did not secure his majority and he will have no success selling any of his policies. Harper and his gang of Con's are REFORM, always have been, always will be. So.. while we in Ontario build the 'All Ontario' party (aka: Sask Party, Reform, and PQ).. ENJOY YOUR MINORITY!!
Dean
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KC
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mmmlicious
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what would it take for me to vote liberal again? they need to totally start from scratch and rebuild...maybe get a leader thats not from the "good ole boy network", someone young, dynamic who can distance the new party from the old party and old scandals. i would never vote for the party if Bob Rae or Michael Ignatieff were to be leaders. ignatieff strikes me as arrogant and too "U.S", bob rae just reminds me of bad times of Ontario when he was an NDP leader. i clearly remember "rae days" off without pay and the mess he left ontario in after his NDP rule.
marcjv
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For all you people chanting good riddence and see you later, how about you give it a shot at politics and see how you measure up. We need to have more respect for people who are in positions of leadership even if they don't exactly fit the bill.
Anne Ottawa
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Dion made a huge arrogant mistake. he was advised before his campaign to downplay the carbon tax thing. Anything with tax associated with it tends to turn off voters these days, being as Canadians we are taxed to death. The fact is a leader should be listening to the guidance of his advisors and he didnt, that is not good and I dont trust that. That is someone who will rule by his arrogance.
I dont think there is so much wrong with the Canadian political system, in my view. Mostly people tend to vote for the leader when they vote for their MP, dont they? Lets face it the MPs pretty much toe the party line on most issues or they get booted.
Steve in Fredericton
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With five parties vying for votes, nobody will get a majority.
Saying that "preventing the PM from getting his majority is as good as a win" is rediculous. Face facts... the Liberals got trounced. They are a beaten party who are still suffering from the effects of the Sponsorship scandal. Thankfully enough Canadians aren't prepared to "forgive and forget" as easily as the gliberals would hope.
Angus In London
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Where are you going to find a decent Liberal? Glen Pearson is about the only one I have heard off. Ang get off this Harper only got 38% of the vote. Well this was a lot more then the Liberal or NDP got. So Harper and the Conservatives got a hell of a lot more votes then either Dion or Layton but the two losers both seem to think they got more votes. In fact they seem to think because Harper didnt get a majority that these two loser were winners....
MHB
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Pete1951
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Dan in Edm
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RRO
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The Liberals are in for at least a few more years of internal fighting.
A house divided on itself cannot stand!
R2 - Toronto
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Mykey, The Lakehead
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Jack W
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Anytime Dion had the chance he would spout off that PM Harper was telling a lie. Well now, during the last week of the campaign Dion said Harper was a quitter, and he (D-Yawn) was not. Who's the quitter, and ergo, liar now ???
Adios Dion
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That is hillarious, since spewing out lies about Reform, RCAP, Conservative leaders since 1990 has been the Liberal's modus operandi.
Talk about calling the kettle black.
Miles
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LM from Moose Jaw
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Political Junkie in KW
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I must admit though, I will not vote for the NDP creater of 'Rae Days' or the foreigner Mr. Ignatieff. There needs to be a leader who will unite the left as the right was united. Anyone up for the job?
Markus13
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Brian, Ottawa
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Danny Dinosaur
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There is no election on the horizon, but someone please raise the standard. If not the Liberals, than hopefully we as voters will begin to ask for more. Simply not showing up to vote, because there was no real option, is not going to solve our leadership problems in Canada.
Pierre Lauzon
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BMN
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Second of all, Dion lost Harper got on message before he did. The Green Shift had income tax cuts but before any of that could really be promoted, Harper and his team zeroed in on the carbon tax and promoted the hell out of the idea that this would tax Canadians into oblivion. That's just smart campaigning.
Third, all of you assuming the Liberals are going to die out best heed 1984. Everyone thought that Turner had driven the party into the ground. By '88, they'd doubled their seats and by '93, they were sitting pretty again. History always has a lot of bumps and turns.
Fourth, I'm no Harper fan. But *please* Harper critics-- stop it with the "Harper is a Bible thumping Bush-lover" arguments on messageboards. You think you're helping. You're not. How about pointing out how Harper's going to drive us back into deficit and that the average pay of the jobs is going down compared to the cost of living. That's what really ticks me off.
Liberal from Montreal
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but us back on track????????
you conservatives are delusional. we had our best economic years under the liberals, u make it sound like we were suffering during the martin/chretien years lol.
worst years = Regean, thatcher, bonn, and of course Brian. all right wing conservatives
T in BC
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Marianna
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Mr. Kennedy should be respobsible for his poor judgement and should pay for the next Liberal Leadership race. In addition, Mr. Kennedy should not be in the leadership race again.
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Pat
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Ryan in AB
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CB in Ontario
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However, as a Conservative, I am not surprised by their behaviour...
Who said we were the ones to have "extreme" agendas?
LOL!
Sore losers...
wms705
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Rick in Ottawa
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We desperately need someone who can mend the internal rifts in the Liberal party, bring it back to its roots as a centre-left party, and send those "fake Tory" Reformers packing.
The current problems with the Liberals were not Dion's doing, but Paul Martin's. Right wingers who saw no chance for the Tory party tried to take over the Liberals, with predictable results. Canada is not a right wing country.
Dan
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So the good old Liberal split is still healthy...
Let the back stabing begin...
Scott Becker
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Ever heard of Kim Campbell, John Turner, or Joe Clark?
And in my opinion, many folks don't necessecarily vote for a leader as much as they do what the party represents. Don't tell me many of you don't vote liberal because you are a 'liberal' and that is how you have always voted.
Victor in Vaughan
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"I have far too much respect for my leader and sympathy for the character assassination he suffered under the Conservatives, to speculate in any way whatsoever about being the interim leader,"
Well, there has been more character assassination inside the Liberal Party of Canada, than by person or organization outside their big tent.
Looks like McCallum is a perfect fit for the Liberals. McCallum calls Dion this great leader yet everyone in the Liberal tent puts down Dion behind his back.
Et Tu McCallum ?
Katie
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Extinct Brand Name
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Simone
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Anton Danton
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Gender Neutral
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Running for the Prime Minister of Canada means that you win and lose "publicly". Running for "public" office should be self descriptive. Running for office means you are under constant scrutiny. It doesn't mean we, the "public", should spare the feelings of a politician over the good of the country. Dion has done great things for his country and has/will be given due credit for it. Leading the Liberal Party to the worst position they've ever sat in, won't be one of them. As the saying goes..."if you can't stand the heat, stay out of te kitchen". Harper, over the years, has been subject to some of the most cruel lies politics has ever seen in the country. I could go into examples, but I am sure we all remember. Dion tried, Dion failed. Time to let another see if the Liberal Party can be led back on track. I am one who thinks the Liberals time in the woods, lost, won't end anytime soon. Another battle is brewing within it's own ranks.
Matt (Windsor)
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Wowed in AB
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James from Montreal
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Sherry
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Mark
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Trudeau came close but never got 50+1%.
Charles
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Harper cares nothing about the environment....worst still he acts like bully and rams through bills like C-51 and C-61 that erode the rights of Canadians....sadly most Canadian are easily manipulated by the fear of crime...his answer is to throw kids in jail...(that's not going to solve anything) cutting the social and cultural programs for the people (of course only the elite only need culture, proper low income housing, (You should see the W5 expose on Toronto Housing then you may begin to understand hopelessness and why kids living there may turn to crime!) Dion understood the origins of crime and poverty and how to truly address these issues.
Well you get the government you vote for and now Canadians will need to lie in the bed they have made for themselves(sleep well)
Bonne Chance Dion some of us understood what you wanted to do.
Betty
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Linda in Vancouver
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I did not vote against Mr.Dion.I did vote against the party that advocates a carbon tax,institutionalized child care,a weak justice system,a failure to even recognize the injustice of our Senate,and the way they PANDER to every special interest group in the country to gather up blocks of votes.
I do think Canada needs a Liberal party.Even Conservative voters know that a functional democracy requires at least two parties to seriously debate any policy.When one party steps out of line,I vote for another one.
But this voter wants no part of character assasination of ANY of our leaders.Whether we agree with them or not,most are proposing policies that they genuinely believe are the best thing for the country,under current conditions.
Mr.Dion has worked tirelessly on our behalf for a very long time.And a great deal of his work has been very useful to Canada.He should be respected and thanked for that.
But,if the Liberal party comes back with the same policies,the is no new leader who could get me to vote for them.
Edmonton John
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Pollution and environmental degradation would continue, but the unsustainable, flagrantly irresponsible portion would be reined in.
It's a good idea, and Dion was right to make it a priority. You can't just run on vanilla platforms that have no long term vision. NOthing ever gets fixed that way. I appreciate Dion's courage and integrity.
Mutt from Windsor
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Sam Philip Maliha
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Don from Ottawa
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Goodbye, Stephane, and good riddance.
Candice
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John - a Progressive Conservative
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My concern as a Conservative is that Harper has run 3 times as leader of the conservative movement in Canada and his record is anything but stellar.
1 loss and 2 minority governments in spite of the best electoral opportunities available to conservatives in a generation is not a high recommendation to keep this person as leader.
It is clear to many of us that Harper will never be seen as moderate and trustworthy by a majority of Canadians.
The Conservative party must face this fact quickly because if the Liberals succeed in selecting a leader and building a platform that appeals to Canadians it will be Conservatives in the political wilderness in the future.
We can't keep pinning our hopes on the Liberal party's failures.
Lame duck Dion defies party wishes
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Now we have to see his face in the media for another 6 months until they give him the big wave at their election. Somehow Dion needs to pay off his debts and he likes living in the big house at Stornaway.
BJ
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Mel
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Brian Tobin
Brian Tobin
Brian Tobin....
DION ALL SOUR GRAPES !!
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Liberals wear this guy for another 6 months....
Liberals should demand he resign IMMEDIATELY.... he is out of contriol blaming everybody and anybody for his election defeats.
Dion blamed "Canadians mindsets" for his defeat.
This man is really dangerously arrogant.
Unbelievable... this is exactly what people have been saying about the pride and arrogance of Liberals.
This guy is anything but humble.
Chris in Edmonton
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Niagara George
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Unfortunately, while the Reform and Progressive Conservatives were floundering, Chrietien let the party infrastructure erode. Now they are paying the price.
Since the Cons were much lower in the polls and in parliament, and they have returned, we know we are far from the end of the Liberal party.
Dion is an honest, sincere man. He told us, before the election, what he would do, if elected. Harper, on the other had, spent 4 weeks telling us the Liberals would bring in a deficit, so we should vote Conservative. Within a week of the election, he has announced that the Cons will have a deficit.
The honest approach may have its problems, because so many people want to believe the other guy's lies. Hopefully, the minority parliament will prevent Harper from doing anything too crazy and it will give people time to recognize him for the story-teller, he is.
Mark, Victoria BC
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Frunk
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Brenda
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Ian
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Jayson M
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He is not able to continue considering his performance as leader as good a person he was.
However with multiple people competing for just the interm leader status, its best he just keep at the helm until a new leader is chosen to prevent infighting and hard feelings over an interm leader.
I just hope he has the strength and tenacity to stand up to the marauding wolves and daggers in the dark as so many would be interm leaders attempt to push him from the hot seat for their moment of glory.
I currently support the conservatives, but I am a center voter and I like to have at least two strong options to choose from in an election. I dislike when one party is so much stronger then another. One party domination either liberal or conservative is not in Canada's best interest.
Werner Patels
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Just wait: we'll see some Liberal MPs cross the floor to the government side once they realize that their party is finished.
Joyc
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I think I am astute enough to know myself whether the Liberal Platform is good for Canada's Economy, and I know that the Liberal Platform was the wrong one, as it is too socialistic, as was the NDP.
I am sure I am not the only one who thinks this way.
Jason Daniel Baker, Toronto
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The Green Shift but mostly Dion himself have inflicted damage upon the Liberal brand which may be irreversible.
An interim leader like John McCallum or Ken Dryden could have gone some of the way toward regaining relevance and resonance with Canadians for the Liberals.
Stephane Dion is delusional blaming everyone but himself. Given what happened in the election this is hardly a surprise.
If his caucus can push him out they shouldn't waste time.
Joleen
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Ray Jorritsma - Edmonton
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Sandra and Doug
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Kevin D
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Adrian - Ottawa
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I am sure there are many loyal and intelligent Canadians with a good vision in all political parties, but not all have the soft skills needed to be a leader of a nation.
William McCullough, Richmond Hill
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In the US, you register for a political party and therefore get a say in who wins the primaries (for president). As Canada runs a parliamentary system, we don't vote for the leader unless we are a member of that particular party. Participating in the political process and voting in leadership selection at the party level is accessible to all Canadians who are willing to do more than just show up on election day.
Lawlor
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DGL
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DLD Victoria
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Sean Calder
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I have no sympathy for this man. He had several opportunities to "do the right thing" for his party, but no, he was going to be The Man and drive unity down Liberal throats. Then he was going to be The Man who returned the Liberals to power on the back of the Green Shift. Nope. Didnt happen. Now, when he could be stepping aside to allow the party to rework itself, he's going to be The Man who stays in control. I'm sorry, but this man couldn't lead his party over the last 3 YEARS, let alone to another leadership convention.
Bon voyage Dion. Your own party can't wait to be rid of you, and Conservatives everywhere adore you because of it. Thanks!
Disappointed
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Dick Varley
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Dave from Toronto
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To all you Neo-Cons who don't think this is possible I have two words for you: Stockwell Day.
Reggie
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The Liberals became too sure of themselves. I could not believe the holier than thou attitude that developed in the party from Chretien thru Martin.
Listening to other Liberals during rallies, etc. became sickening.
Until that attitude, which is still very prevalent, is lost, there will be no hope.
It's time to become humble Liberals ... maybe waking up to last week's results will be the slap in the face needed.
Michael H.
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Chretien only had 38% of the vote when he won his "majority" in in 1997 and the following term he only managed 41%. Guess that means that Chretien was a pretty unpopular PM as well? ;)
Don Yetman
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Ron
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Greg in the Hammer
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You're forgetting a few critical things.i) They are decimated at the riding organization level.ii) rival factions will now turn their knives on each other seeing as they can pull them out of Dion's back. iii) The party is broke and in serious debt with no appreciable fundraising mechanism in place. iv) Nostalgic wishful thinking aside, this party represents absolutely nothing that connects with average Canadians. v) with campaign finance rules the way they are now, the LPC can no longer count on its old boy network in big business to finance its campaigns.
You will see many of the more conservative liberals drawn to their natural affiliation. The Conservative Party.
keystone
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Martha Hall Finley would have won this time around.
As for Mr. Dion.... his "Liar, liar!" battle cry has put me off him for good.
Good riddance, sir!
Seems you still don't get it.
Joe Sanity
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Now he's gone, and they won't know who the new Liberal leader will be until May. Hmmm... I guess they could run early attack adds on Bob Ray & Michael Ignatiff just to be safe. However, they'll have to make sure they don't blow their entire defamation budget on those two. If Frank McKenna decides to run they are going to need every penny they've got.
Michael (Ottawa)
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If Mr. Dion's prideful and arrogant comments reflect true Liberal 'values' then they don't deserve to govern.
The defiance, the pride, the arrogance and the 'blame game' displayed by Mr. Dion are NOT Canadian values and only underscores the right choice by 80% of Canadians who refused to vote for the Liberals in this election.
I was shocked to hear Dion blame voters for our "Canadian mindset" for his defeat. He blamed the Conservatives advertising campaign, he blamed the media, he blamed everybody but himself where the blame should really rest.
I will be glad when we see the end of this man from public life. With Dion as leader the Liberals will continue to go downhill.
Lourdes,Toronto
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I'm from Toronto, you will see red signs all over. You should visit GTA so you have an idea what is our color choices. Conservatives hardly get a seat in GTA, with an exemptions of the rural areas.
Mr. Dion's cardon tax in not a short term plan, but a long term and brilliant. If we only read more about it, down the road, we will be one of the most progressive country in the world along with Sweden and Switzerland. Sorry we lost that chance!.
I agree with you Drake, KC and All Ontario Party
Andrew
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Mr. Dion has never taken responsibility on who Canadians "thought" he was. It was all Prime Minister Harper's fault. As if it were Stephen Harper's job to promote Stephanie Dion.
Mr. Dion needs a reality check or two.
Richard L. Provencher
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I am a senior citizen who had the privilege of working on the election. It was a chance to add some finances. I have no pension plan other than OAS and some CPP. 170,000 people, half at least were seniors, had extra money work.
A backroom strategist said on an interview today the Liberals had planned to defeat the government this Fall but never imagined Mr. Harper would have beaten them to the punch.
We have a PM who looks ahead and will guide us through this global mess. A conservative majority next time. Richard from Truro, NS.
wally at Kelowna
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He should have resigned and let an interm leader take
over otherwise he will continue to be an embarassment to the Liberal Party and drag them down further.
Ontario Jim
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I watched the leadership debates, I didn't like you.
I watched your outdoors re-imaging commercials, I didn't like you.
I understood what you were trying to say, I didn't like you.
I understood the Green Shift, I didn't like you.
I don't like you Dion, you were always the wrong choice for Liberal and Canadian leadership.
bunny
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The green tax was never going to fly, you called my PM a liar./The media spoon fed you, and you bit that hand!
Marg, Richmond
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sarah
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If Canadians never knew 'the real Dion' it is Dion's fault, because he never cared enough to control his own image. He is the Joe Clarke of the Liberal Party.
anita zell
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It's too bad that people couldn't see Dion's vision.
He is trustworthy (unlike Harper).
He would be a great PM.
Dick Varley
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Dale, Ottawa
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No doubt Harper will use negative ads and campaigning in and outside of elections (and the use of Taxpayer money by my Conservative MP and presumably others to do negative campagning before the writ was dropped was truly despicable).
We the public of all stripes should demand that should Harper and the Conservatives do this whitewashing again that they be held accountable. We will never know if Dion would have made a good leader of the Liberal party because he was never given the chance, thanks to the Conservative bashing, thanks to Liberals not standing up to it, and thanks to we the public nor the media not doing anything either. Democracy has lessened, not by Dion's presence, but why he will soon not be present.
JL
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I think the thing truly lacking with the liberals is a bonified 'leader'...Frank would answer that call.
I hope he at least considers it...for the good of the country.
Nick in Ottawa
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sinical in Ottawa
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Jason
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Good thing Mulroney put the GST in place to reap the MASSIVE benefits of the IT explosion that brought the largest economic expansion in history. Oh yeah, the Liberals didn't invent that expansion either. They just had a good tax at a time of unprecedented revenue potential. Economics is easy to pick up you know...just read a bit.
dave
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Dion blames everybody except himself for losing election.
Canadians did not want him, period! Hard to believe a professor cant even learn these lessons of politics.
Liberal party should escort him out the door, soon, and rebuild, as we need the Liberal party,(even though I am Conservative)
Out of the Red and into the Blue
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Dan from Ontario.
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Norman in Montreal
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Jordan Lester
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Thank you for costing the Canadian taxpayers $300M to hold an election proving what we all knew a year ago... you are unelectable as our Prime Minister.
Perhaps the next heir to the Liberal throne can save us the cost and donate $300M into something that will benefit the rest of us rather than one of their own's ego."
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Drake, do I need to remind you that it was Harper that dissolved Parliament, and called this election? Although Mr.Dion had threatened to cast a vote of non-confidence in the current federal government, there was no guarantee he would do so.
Remember his last two threats to do so, yet he didn't follow through? Either way, I think the Liberals need to realize that the leader isn't the party... they just manage it
Fraser
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IMO this was a condescending approach and talking down to someone. Would it not have been better Mr. Dion to have answered them right away? No wonder the Conservative camp jumped on the band wagon early in the game about his inept leadership. When one cannot answer a question right there on the spot on the plank that you are basically running your political campaign on something is not quite right.
But then I digress to think that this could be common sense by a leader of a political party. When this ineptness was observed by many and particularly the "Dion Do Over" CTV interview, I know forgive me again, but this was seen as an attack by the Conservatives, not the inability to lead or a particular leadership quality of being prepared? Of course it was okay for Mr. Dion to call someone a liar in public over and over again ad nauseum right?..........
The heir apparent and his undoubted right to rule as the "natural ruling party of Canada"!
The political landscape in Canada has changed or have many been sticking their heads in the sand. Insofar as anyone winning a majority this will not be seen for many years if a provincial party is going to be allowed to be entrenched into the federal political arena. In a five party system it will be pretty hard to get a majority government. Interesting how in one recent election in the not too distant past Chrétien received 38% of the popular vote, aaah but I digress again; he was in the “natural ruling party of Canada” right?
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Karen in Winnipeg
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Sorry to Say
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Vince M
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I can think of no faster and more effective fuel for Western separation than having a Trudeau at the helm.
Mojo
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New Canada
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Any person with some vision would appreciate the planning beyond the tip of their nose.
Short term solutions work for populists like Harper. No wonder he can't get a majority. Thank God we still have some people with brain to vote against him.
LHB in Montreal
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As for Harper not winning a majority because he received the same 38% as Chretien while Chretien was campaigning against an almost absent opposition makes you wonder as to their honesty and integrity.
HARPER won against;-
1. A strong liberal opposition
2. The Block campaigning for 37 days in its own back yard paid by Canadian tax payers on only two subject Arts and keeping young people from being help responsible for their own actions.
3. Jack Layton promising the moon while trying to destroy the economy and the retirement funds of the retiree.
4. E. May who bosted getting more votes than anyone in the Green party with no opposition from the Liberals. While also pushing the greens to vote Liberals and the Libs still did not win.
5. Danny Williams the ego-maniacal premier who exhorted his province to vote ABC because he did not get more than his fair share of equalization payement after all the years of getting so much monew from Alberta and Ontario.
CONSIDERING ALL OF THE ABOVE I WOULD SAY HARPER GOT MORE THAN A MAJORITY.
As for those who do not LOVE THEIR COUNTRY enough to take the time to VOTE no excuse is acceptable. It is easy to say I did'nt because of this or that the fact remains you did not exercise your CIVIC DUTY so your critisism is invalide.
As for Mr. Dion I wish him good luck. It is not easy to loose but he should be commanded for having put his professionnal life on hold and serve his country well.
Dion - stop insulting Canadians!
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This is the graceless peevish gesture on departure that one typically expects from a left-wing demagogue who can't accept that anyone could dare to oppose his views or vote against him in a democracy, and who therefore does not deserve to be leader of the Liberal Party, much less our Prime Minister.
As to the election result, it is the durability of the Liberal brand and Quebec voters running home to Momma (i.e., the Bloc), and not you, sir, that denied Mr. Harper a Conservative majority.
Good riddance, and thank God that enough Canadians saw you for the stubborn narrow-minded idealogue that you are to ensure your democratic dismissal.
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Dave in Newington
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First he devastates the party by insisting that the voters will swallow a massive tax thinly disguised as an environmental breakthrought.
Then he was warned that calling the PM a liar so many times(once he managed 14 times in a 12 minute speech)was alienating a lot of people,even the ones that were going to vote Liberal.
His whining and grating turned off everyone. Now he claims that nobody really knows him and he will stay on as leader...hoping I suppose that he thinks the Liberal party has as bad a memory as the rest of us are supposed to have when they want us to vote for them.
I don't think the fact that we taxpayers are providing him with a heated,tax free mansion to live in,$240k tax free a year and a limo and driver for him and the Missus have anything to do with it,do you?
Mr Dion...do the right thing and use that French Passport of yours....Paris is beautiful in the fall....
Ian - Toronto, ON
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Alright, so I guess the fact some of the worst post-war economic times occurred in the 1970s thanks to Mr. Trudeau means nothing. Or the fact that it was NDP-turned Liberal Bob Rae who led Ontario in the early 1990s, after Liberal David Peterson. And we all know what happened then.
Pardon me, but I do believe it is the Liberals who have missed the point here: constant internal in-fighting will be the death-nell of any party. Harper has united the Conservatives and the only reason we don't have a majority government now is because Quebecers turned to the Bloc Quebecois in (overreaction) opposition to certain policies. Until the Liberals begin working together, and stop trying to stab one another in the back, they will continue to bleed votes left, right, and centre. But then again, pigs can fly... all they need is an airplane.
JPC
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1) Had Reform and PC not split the vote the Liberals too would have been stuck in minority territory with Chretien.
2) No Federal leader in the last 100 years has gotten much more than 50% of the votes. The Record in the last 100 has been the Conservatoves with 57% in 1917.
3) As for the Liberals, in the last 100 years the HIGHEST they EVER got was 52.5% in the 1904. The Average for most rulng parties has been the high 30s and low 40s.
Doesn't get it.
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David from Hamilton
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For those commentators who are writing the liberal party off, i would remind the liberals went through a soul searching after defeats in the 1960's and 1980's and bounced back!
After all is said and done the liberals do not have the left/right ideological baggage of NDP and Conservatives. They are a centerist party which is where most canadians are at.
BA in The 'Peg
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Think about it. He's going to continue to lead his party, and he now can fully vote against the next Budget. The NDP will automatically vote against it, therefore putting the election (or not) on the Bloc.
At the very least, this is the stick Dion will use to keep the party "in-line" until their leadership convention (which is assumed to be May 2009, but not confirmed, yet)
Seeing this, Harper will load the Budget with whatever the Conservatives want to do in the next 1-3 years, including items that will be hard for the opposition to swallow.
Canadian Politics continues to be interesting!
Liberal Party Couldn't Afford the
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The Liberals couldn't afford this so they had no choice but to see keep him on for the next six months.
Besides, it will mean another six months free of mortgage payments at Stornaway. A true Liberal decision-making model!
What will all the "Harper Haters" do when Obama is elected in two weeks? Harper is just another Obama? Gosh, it just doesn't quite have the same ring to it, eh?
Nadia
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Dion is not to blame for the liberal decline, and I'm glad he is not resigning !
Greg - Signs and Wonders
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Best thing for us Liberals is to distance ourselves from this loss and all people connected to it. Absence makes the heart grow fonder. For Dion to stay in the spot light till May is selfish.
Richard from Ontario
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As mentioned before, I'd love to get a hold of what you and your Liberal buddies are smoking... Makes you want to call people names and belittle anyone that doesn't agree with your socialist ideas..The Conservatives are growning stronger as time goes by and if the Liberals continue on their left leaning ways, they will be wiped out altogether. I would suggest that Mr Dion is staying around, simply because they can't get anyone who wants to take over right now.
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MR in Mississauga
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Ki-Som Victoria BC
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Joel in NS
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"It amazes me to see just how mean spirited people can be... Although I voted conservative, I would not bash Mr Dion because of poor ratings with voters, unfortunately for him, he made bad decisions and it ended up costing his party even more seats.
For all you people chanting good riddance and see you later, how about you give it a shot at politics and see how you measure up. We need to have more respect for people who are in positions of leadership even if they don't exactly fit the bill."
Joel in Kamloops
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It will be interesting to see who will be the leader that unifies Canada.
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Greg
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Just goes to show the Liberal Party is a joke!
Diane M.
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MRC in Hamilton
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The Conservatives did not get a majority government for 3 reasons:
1. Toronto
2. Montreal
3. The separatist party, Bloc Quebecois, does NOT campaign outside of Quebec and, therefore, has far too much influence on a single province! (Election Canada law needs to change)
Having stated all that, sadly I believe that the Conservatives did the best they possibly could, even with one of the worst Liberal leaders in history. That's really really sad. This country is too divided and too many past politicians have played the "immigration card" to their advantage too much.
Oh yeah, and don't you think that the Liberals/NDP are about a generation overdue for dropping the Americanism fear that they spread during campaigns and the House of Commons? I have much respect for the Conservative Party for NEVER repeatedly associating any other country with their political opposition. If I made $1 for every time I heard a Liberal/NDP associate the Conservatives with the Americans, I'd be a millionaire. I also probably wouldn't be surprised how many Liberal/NDP supporters also love American football, entertainment, and culture...
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Chris
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I was not going to vote for Dion as he is a terrible leader for this country on both the domestic and foreign stages. If there was anyone else in that position and without a carbon tax, I would have voted Liberal. So to all partisans out there... you have to let go of this attitude of yours and change for the better.
Moe from Montreal
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I think that the future of the Liberals will be to try to secure the "centre" to reach a progressive platform that will enact change in a way that will appeal to a broad sampling of Canadians. The Liberals are currently the only party who can heal the factionalism disease this country suffers on a political level.
The Liberal party's future leader needs to set himself/herself strongly in the middle in order to court both side's moderates which only the Conservatives were able to court this time around.
Roedy Green
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1. betrayed by Stephen Harper who lied endlessly and brazenly about the Green Shift platform with straw man mispresentations.
2. betrayed by the media who repeatedly lied about and mindlessly trashed the Green Shift platform.
3. betrayed by members of his own party after his job.
4. betrayed by the people of Canada who spat on his concern for the environment and willfully believed Harper’s lies.
Canada does not deserve such a decent leader.
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Pat Canadian!
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I think you should do a little research. The Liberals started the current debt and, yes the Conservatives grew it, but if it were not for the Conservatives it would be much much worse now. The Liberals and NDP are the spenders out there not the Conservatives (hence the name).
Put it this way, give a man a fish and feed him for the day, teach a man to fish and feed him for a lifetime. The Liberal and NDP platform is about taking your money and feeding it back to you (bail out our debt, make sure we are healthy, pay me to retire, etc.) - the Conservatives let you keep your money, give you responsability and expect you to be careful with your money (don't lease a Lexus when all you really can afford is a Chevy, but if you do get the Lexus you are responsable to pay for it not the government - or me!) and take care of yourself - in other words teach you to be responsable.
Every government (no matter the party) will look after those that really need it. To do otherwise is not Canadian and is certain death for any political party.
Unfortuantely most people in this great land of ours want the Government to take care of us - that is too bad, we are better than that.
Sorry for Dion, but that is politics - good try, better luck next time.
Sid, Edmonton
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He is a stubborn man who consistently whines about what others do to stop his success. I suspect that even as a professor he was prone to blame everyone else for his own shortcomings. Canadians who pay taxes and try to meet a budget really did understand what his vision for Canada would mean to the paycheck of the middle class. Saving the world Dion style is a dream world. The Liberal party created the funding rules that all parties had the same opportunity to use. All it indicates is that the Liberal party had trouble weaning themselves off the large corporation donations they cultivated in previous times. They do not represent oridnary Canadians.
James - Eh!
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We all know we're not going to have an election for sometime and therefore the Libs have time to elect a new leader, sort out their vision and move forward.
An interim leader could not really start that process.
Mr. Dion staying as interim leader allows the Libs to ask direct, non-partisan questions to the Harper government. It will be interesting to see if the CPC can respond in similar kind.
Allan Eizinas
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Politics is money.
One of the major reasons that the Liberals lost and the Conservatives won was that the Conservatives had 5 times more money to spend on everything from advertising to organization to transportation.
Where would Obama be if he did not have those $ quadzillions to spend on his campaign?
The Liberal party appears to be coming back on track. The 3 M’s – McCallum, Manley and McKenna are back into the flow and the Stronach et al money should start to flow in soon.
Hey Dion - go away!
And I voted for my local Liberal candidate - who lost by a small Green Shift margin.
Jim
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Sam, you seem to think that the Liberal party should follow the same demise as the PROGRESSIVE Conservative party, and disappear.
Why is that? Is it because the Liberals said something you did not agree with? There leader was someone you did not like? The red colour bothers you?
The Liberal party should rebuild, must rebuild, under a strong new (hopefully young) leader.
But what they said, while misrepresented and unpopular, was what we ALL need to understand! SOMETHING has to be done to save Canada's AND THE WORLD environment, or what ANY PARTY does, will be irrelevent, to coming generations.
Or maybe Sam, you have no off-spring and maybe that is for the best too.
Jasper
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It is going to be fun to watch.
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Michael - Vancouver
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Bill
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Dion is a very bright man who crafted a plan for the climate crisis that was too complicated for most people in Canada to understand; and so most Canadians did not understand the "Green Shift".
That made it very easy for the Conservatives to do what they do best-lie, mislead, and distort what Dion was trying to explain.
Mr Dion would be much more successful as a political leader in Europe where the voters are more sophisticated than in North America and where more people understand that the Climate issue is the BIG issue.
ie. No Climate on earth that will support human life = LIFE on earth is seriously impaired! An unhealthy place for life on Earth and the rest is completely irrevelent !
The Liberals will pick a more "appropriate" Prime Ministerial candidate for next time; Harper will fail miserably in the next 4 years like Bush did in the States; and the new Liberal Leader with a renewed Liberal Party will decimate Harper come the next election.
Dion will come back as a very able and intelligent Minister in the next Liberal Government.
See you in 4 years, if not sooner !
Dave from Toronto
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He is well respected, even by Conservatives, after all he did advise them on Afghanistan! The Conservatives will not be able to kick him around like they did Dion. Yep, John Manley, the best choice!
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Eric in Oshawa.
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The Liberal parties finances are in shambles and they want to run the country by implementing a new tax right out of the gate. Thats why the Liberals lost.
Amongst the above reasons, Dion seemed like a weak leader to me right from the Liberal Leadership convention. Maybe the Liberals should blame Gerrard Kennedy for the Liberals loosing, afterall he through his support behind Dion.
If Dion really wanted the Liberals to be rebuilt and wanted them to be ready for the next election in 18 to 24 months, he would step aside now, name an interim leader and let the healing begin. But he has a better plan.
So if the best choice is Bob Rae as in the CTV story, all I can say is remember RAE DAYS!!!! He almost sunk Ontario.
Some have touted Trudeau, having one of those at the helm was bad enough, we don't need another.
As for Ignatief, he leaves for 30 years and then decides to come back to Canada. Get real, go away Mikey!
The Dion whining will continue.
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Big Jim
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Now that the price of oil has dropped, I hope Danny Williams comes back to Ottawa licking his wounds.
Stephen in Calgary
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I voted for Harper.
If Justin Trudeau would have ran against Harper, the Conservatives would have probably lost.
Luckily for us...Justin Trudeau won't make it to the Liberal Leadership debate because the old boys won't let him.
Steve in Ottawa
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Ryan
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There will not be a majority government again until one of these parties die off. There simply is not enough room in the current state of affairs.
JS
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Nah, Nah, Nah, Nah,
Hey, Hey, Hey,
Gooooodbye
The next leader of the Liberals will be just as ineffective as Dion. More sitting on their hands, more missed votes. The Liberals are on the brink of bankrupcy. They will rceive $1.95 per vote and that still will not be enough to pay off their debts. Thanks to Chretien for his electoral reforms, the Liberals can not rely on big corporate and union donations as they have for generations. The most any one person can donate is $1100. Time for them to purge the party of all MP's from the Chretien/Martin eras if they want to rebuild their party.
All you people who say that PM Harper only got 38% of the vote are sore losers. It is more than your party got.
George
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I don't know if those were ever Reform platforms, but those are the people who that party attracted.
Stephen Harper has not followed that agenda, but similar strong right-wing views have been posted here during the election. That is why I continue to worry about the "hidden agenda."
I used to think, as many of the pundits say, that Harper is an idealogue. Everything he proposes is related to lower taxes and smaller government.
His about-face on the arts funding issue and his foolish reduction in the GST, make me believe now that he is simply governing by whatever his pollsters say Canadians want.
Stephane Dion, at minimum, had the fortitude to present something that he knew would be unpopular, but he knew it was right.
Give me politicians who present practical solutions to difficult problems, not politicians who "solve" problems with the answers that are most likely to get them re-elected.
Steven Koning Bloomfield, ON
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Dan in Purgatory
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The fact that Mr. Dion didn’t even mention this tid-bit might make him the dumbest politician to command a major party in the history of Canada. He is a man out for himself with no sense of the party’s history and no respect for the party’s grassroots.
Three Cheers for Mr. Harper
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Samantha
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Just thought I'd point that out and no I am not a conservative. Just saying my Liberals have also failed. A good house cleaning has been in order for some time within the Liberal Party. Once we get rid of a few more corrupt members, we will be able to once again rule with dignity.
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Henry Sator, Toronto, ON
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Global warming is "real" no matter how long our Prime Minister keeps his head in the sand or stamps his foot and yells no. Because part of Canada is the arctic, that is melting at a very alarming rate, and we do go from sea to sea we will pay dearly. Mr Dion also offered us a chance to also benefit but we couldn't hear him for the noise of the paid bul-lies and the naysayers.
brenda
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i wish mr dion all the best in the future and that your party keeps mr harpers party in check
bdw
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Bill
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Dion is a very bright man who crafted a plan for the climate crisis that was too complicated for most people in Canada to understand; and so most Canadians did not understand the "Green Shift". That made it very easy for the Conservatives to do what they do best-lie, mislead, and distort what Dion was trying to explain.
Mr Dion would be much more successful as a political leader in Europe where the voters are more sophisticated than in North America and where more people understand that the Climate issue is the BIG issue.
ie. No Climate on earth that will support human life = LIFE on earth is seriously impaired! An unhealthy place for life on Earth and the rest is completely irrevelent !
The Liberals will pick a more "appropriate" Prime Ministerial candidate for next time; Harper will fail miserably in the next 4 years like Bush did in the States; and the new Liberal Leader with a renewed Liberal Party will decimate Harper come the next election. Dion will come back as a very able and progressive Minister of the Environment in the next Liberal Government.
See you at the Polls in 4 years, if not sooner !