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Date: Fri. Oct. 10 2008 5:19 PM ET
Canada's big banks are lowering their prime lending rates in response to an announcement Friday from Finance Minister Jim Flaherty that the federal government will buy $25 billion worth of mortgage debt to help free up credit markets.
TD Canada Trust and CIBC said it will lower the rate by another 15-hundredths of a point to 4.35 per cent, effective next Tuesday.
"We believe this initiative will be put into effect in a way that will reduce our overall cost of funds and, as a result we are dropping our rate today," Tim Hockey, president and CEO of TD Canada Trust, said Friday.
"Financial markets are very turbulent, and funding costs are still high. However, we anticipate that our cost of funds will decrease with the implementation of this program, and therefore wanted to take action that will benefit our customers directly."
The Bank of Nova Scotia, the Royal and the Bank of Montreal announced shortly afterward that they are cutting their prime rate by 0.25 points to 4.25 per cent.
Canada's big banks were under fire earlier this week after they decided to pass only part of the Bank of Canada's half percentage point rate cut to consumers. The banks said the decision was made because of volatile credit markets.
Speaking in Ottawa Friday, Flaherty said the decision to buy the mortgage debt from Canadian banks was being made in an effort to stabilize the lending industry and encourage lower interest rates.
Flaherty made the announcement before heading to Washington to meet with other G-7 finance ministers to formulate a plan for dealing with the current economic turbulence.
He said the mortgage debt will be purchased by the Canadian Mortgage and Housing Corp.
Flaherty said that will ease pressure on lending institutions and prompt banks to lower their interest rates for Canadians, which could spark renewed buying activity.
He said the plan is "efficient, cost-effective and safe way to support lending in Canada that comes at no fiscal cost to taxpayers."
Don Drummond, chief economist for TD, called the plan "music to my ears" and said it should benefit everyone involved.
"I don't think there's a risk of loss to the government, so it strikes me that those three partners -- the government, the CMHC and the banks all win and that helps ease up to some degree the credit flow in Canada," he told CTV's Canada AM.
Derek Holt, of Scotia Capital, said the move is a "healthy, positive step" designed to make loans available for those who qualify.
"That's the hope, that by taking mortgage backed securities out of the banking system that are illiquid, that they cannot move, cannot sell to the marketplace, and giving cash instead, that banks will then turn around and use that cash to generate more loan growth to businesses and households in Canada," Holt said.
Flaherty maintained the position the Conservatives have taken since the election campaign began -- that the economy is still strong and well protected from U.S.-style economic turbulence brought on my the sub-prime mortgage crunch.
He said Canadian banks and financial institutions are "sound and well-capitalized, and less-leveraged than their international peers."
Not a bailout
Prime Minister Stephen Harper has also sought to reassure Canadians that the economy is stronger than its U.S. counterpart, and will weather the economic storm.
Just yesterday, Harper said the government would not be providing a bailout to banks.
During a campaign stop Friday in Brantford, Ont., Harper said the deal to buy mortgages was an asset swap, not a bailout.
"The government's main concern right now is obviously the cost and availability of credit," Harper said Friday. "Part of what has been happening is, because of the problems in the banking systems around the world, there's less and less inter-bank lending and therefore credit conditions are becoming tight even in Canada.
"...What we're trying to do today is make sure that the banks can take some good assets and turn those into cash so they can make that available to small business, to people seeking mortgages."
The opposition has accused Harper of taking a "do nothing" approach, but he maintains his government has been quietly preparing for the slowdown and shouldn't take drastic reactionary steps now.
Flaherty said the mortgage buyout has been talked about for months.
Meanwhile, Liberal Leader Stephane Dion accused Harper of contradicting his own words about taking action on the economy.
"After months of saying no action was required and his approach was sufficient, it appears, four days before Election Day, Stephen Harper has now had a change of heart," Dion said in a statement Friday.
"It is no surprise that many Canadians will believe that the Conservatives are playing partisan politics with their mortgages and savings in the dying days of a federal election."
Dion said the "11th hour conversion" will not reassure Canadians that Harper understands their needs.
With files from The Canadian Press


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Chris Ont
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Simon Shaw
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Niagara Free Advice
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Probably, you shouldn't even listen to a stock broker. Certainly, do not listen to someone selling mutual funds. In these uncertain times, they are both desperate to make commission.
The market is going down, almost every day. There is every likelihood, it will go much lower.
Do not buy today, or even next week. There will be plenty of buying opportunities in the weeks ahead, when the market goes much lower than it is this morning.
By the way, it is good to hear there is no need for a bail out, in Canada. The government is just taking on some of the debt of our banks. Oh yeah, that is a bailout! Thanks for the double talk Mr. Flaherty, you and your boss are very good, at that.
JR from a small town
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bella in ottawa
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Dion still gets my vote!
TimT
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Paul Looks for Vision Not Old Ideas
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My preference is to look for leaders with a vision for the future, a clean future for our kids. The Dion Plan and the Green Plan propose massive income tax cuts coupled with a revenue neutral pollution tax so we can invest in clean technologies which can be sold around the world and be an example to the world; we can move forward for a healthier future.
Let's vote for a new tomorrow not one based on the old Bush conservative philosophy of yesteryear.
Jonathan
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Every time I see Flaherty I am overcome with REVULSION.
JIMMY B - PERTH ONT
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shawn
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Why is it the Cons are doing EVERYTHING the Amarican Gov't is doing, after saying they wouldn't do it, didn't need to do it... They must be really shaking in their boots for Tuesday...
I'm so glad my taxes are paying for others mortgage debt...
"efficient, cost-effective and safe way to support lending in Canada that comes at no fiscal cost to taxpayers."
BULL! Their money is OUR MONEY if they spend it it comes out of our wallets.
Thanks again Harper and cronies for doing everything you say you won't...
Mike In Ottawa
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NAIL ON THE HEAD OH & while were at it where are the Billions in profits "ALL" of the Banks have been posting for the last few years? Maybe they should have been saving for a rainy day!!! Why is the Canadian Government i.e. The People of Canada who's pockets those profits were wrung from now giving them more!!!! GRRRRRRRR Can anyone else smell a Bush??
Conservatives looking more liberal.
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Dave from Toronto
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50 yrs old businesses are going bankrupt, Seniors savings are being decimated, and yes net jobs are higher, but you tell someone who lost a $60k/yr full time job that Tim Hortons/Future Shop is hiring! Shame on you Harper! Take your head out of the (tar) sands!
Tom in the West
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Just like Dion and Taleban Jack make the "corporation" nameless and faceless and attack and blame. I go downtown and meet some of the people who work for those nasty oil companies and it turns out they are just people too??? No horns no tails but to hear from our 4 socialist parties one would never know.
Of course we vote for Harper out here but we are concerned. Unlike his opponents he is showing far too much concern for all regions of Canada. He should split Toronto off and vilify them the way everyone else vilifies the west. Seems he won't do that tho it would balance the constant left wing attacks on our Province.
Doesn't matter what the reality is when the media can sell more papers convincing everyone its all our fualt. I guess I'll go to work today and support those evil oil corporations and bully some more single mothers.
Chris - Fredericton
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I'm a strong Conservative supporter ( & still am) but I can't support this. With the banks making record profits year after year how come they get a 'buy out' minimizing their risk while everyday Canadians are exposed to more risk. Lending has been out of control lately & this 'crash' is a reflection of that. It's how free market economies work. There's nothing any politician can do to stop this.
Now Lib's stop talking about how Dion is going to save the enviroment with a new tax. The logic just doesn't work.
Joe
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Yeah Right!!!
John
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Michelle
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Flaherty is possibly even more evil than Harper.
Michael (Ottawa)
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Your free advice is worth it's price - NOTHING.
Harper has done an excellent job keeping our economy on track.
This injection of liquidity is a good thing. It will ensure or economy remains solvent and our goods and services keep moving so we don't bog down like other countries.
We have are approaching the 'capitulation' phase in the markets where investors throw in the towel and bottom out. At that point its becomes an uphill trend climb after that. That phase we don't know how long it will take but the panic will be gone and these crazy down days will also be gone.
The US bailout money hasn't found its way into the economies of the US and others so naturally stability hasn't been achieved just yet.
We all need to stay calm - we are getting there slowly.
Calm is good.
(former paid advisor now retired)
Michelle
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Michele
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I would'nt vote for a Liberal who does'nt speak English well enough for me to understand and basically has the interests of Quebec before the rest of Canada.
FRANK FROM SCARBOROUGH
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Mark M
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Nick in Gatineau
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USA - 250 Million people - $ 700 Billion.
Canada - 30 Million people - $ 75 Billion so far (Including the latest $ 25 Billion). $ 9 Billion to go ( $ 84 Billion) to reach the same percentage of the US Bailout.
Why are they injecting cash into a system that is said to be the safest and the best in the world ?
You can take a piece of crap, paint it gold and call it gold, but in the end, it is still a piece of crap with gold paint on it.
The Canadian Government is Bailing out Banks.
Dale
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Jonathan
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Nicole
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The Royal Bank of Canada reported record net income of $4.7 billion for the year 2006, up 40 per cent from 2005. That's the highest annual profit any Canadian bank has ever reported.
This year...Royal Bank of Canada's first-quarter profit is $1.25 billion...do the math that would be 5 Billion!!!!!
They are all crooks!
Hanley
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Who was asleep at the wheel?
CROSS
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Bite it…he says.
Got hit hard on the market…I think I’ll cash in some of my bad stock so I can buy some new bad stock at a low price.
Caveman logic…see the big “S” (stupid) on my forehead?
Where did we find this man?
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Bob H fr Petawawa
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Matt Brulotte
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Kathy
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People need to distinguish between the stock market and the banking system. A survey released Thursday said that Canada's bamks are the strongest in the world. We should rejoice at this. (We can worry about greed later Mr Layton, we need to get through this crisis first.) The IMF on Thursday said that Canada is the strongest economy in the G7. CTV reports that over 100,000 jobs were created in Canada during September. Let's keep on this track. Canada is strong and we should be pleased, worried yes, but definitely not panicking. The current financial problems originate outside of our borders and are largely beyond Canadian control - we need to let events unfold and then react appropriately taking defensive action.
It is imperative that calm is maintained - Mr Layton sounds like he wants a run on our banks - shame on him! Likewise Mr Dion is advocating panic in an attempt to promote his political ambitions. Shame on him too - if he succeeds he will have damaged the economy for his selfish aims.
I hope Canadians draw strength and hope from Canada's ability to weather this storm - let's not panic - this can do much more damage.
John W.
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But if you want to keep credit flowing in a frozen credit crisis world wide, you have to keep the credit going pure economics and I am an economic student.
Do you want to go get a mortgage with a good job and the bank tells you that they can't lend you the money every thing in the world is based on credit 89% of people don't have the cash to buy a big a investment without credit you have to spend money to make money you have all heard that saying.
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Ian from N.B.
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ML
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These posts are not blaming you or your workmates for working in oil, far from it. You guys still ensure the economy turns here in Canada. You guys don't set the prices. The fact is and remains however, as JR very accuratelly points out, money is finite, and this for the big majority or low and middle class in this country of hours. This generation has always been known to spend every cent we have, we tak emore risk, more confident. In this context, when gaz cost doubles in 5 years, there is something else in the economy (canada's) we are not bying. Credit kept this going for a little while (life supprt), but Canadians, smart, woke up, added up, and the CA economy has and is slowing down. jobs will continue in the big trend to trickle down, (despite, the confusing ups and downs recently reported). Not much of the gaz money gets to the gov (tax and the pump, and income Tx from high numbers of associated gaz workers). All the rest (majority) goes from your pocket, through the pump,directly in the pocket of these companies, owned by a few shareholders. The governement has to pick and choose, it is time for leadership. I am almost certain none of them have what it takes. The oil companies will continue to exploit, its to profitable, you will all keep your jobs. It is just about however for them to get a good kick in the head, OPEC,and us, and take the fare share, and leave their greed away from the poor or average canadian.
Dave - Moncton
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To those Liberals who are going on about the cost of the war...DONT FORGET WHO PUT US THERE! At least the conservatives give our guys better equipment to COME HOME ALIVE!
The Liberal Plan to save the economy & the enviroment is a new tax...YIKES!
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My share prices have dropped 50% & I've maxed out my RRSP contributions yet Flaherty is punishing me by giving me a lower rate of return. How will that make my retirement more secure?
There is no rebound unless we have "the talk" with our outsourcing industry & tell them enough is enough. China won't like it but hey, it's evident that capitalism needs a major over-haul. Mr Harper has no clue what to do and I only say that because of his interest rate cut...it's just so naive & gives ignorant people the impression he's doing something that'll work.
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Anne Ottawa
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Jonathan
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LDL- Southwestern ONT
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very concerned citizen
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Steve in Aylmer
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Follow the signs to this trickle down economics disaster.
That my friends is the first sign to our worst fears.
I love how the stay calmm, be brave, outlookers but sometimes you have to see the facts for what they are...we`re in trouble.
Nick in Gatineau
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CMHC is a government agency. The employees are paid from taxpayers' money. Their pension comes from the Government pension plan. Their revenues are from Taxpayers' money.
The administration of these Mortgages will cost Taxpayers' money. No matter how one tries to disguise it.
It just goes to show that government hasn't understood the concept of self-suffiency which is, the ultimate efficency standard for government. Self-sufficiency = lower taxes. Otherwise, they simply obtain the revenues from somewhere else like say hiking the price of passports (should go down instead of up because there are going to be much more produced).
Dd
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Another Con lie.
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Chris
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From what I understood from Mr. Flarety is that this was to be an investment, not a buyout!!!
Dave
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Since Harper told us to buy stocks, the market has dropped another 1000 points! Great way to lose money!
Some economist!
VOTE ABC FROM CAPE BRETON
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Jenna
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Rick MIddleton
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Dave in Quebec
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Breezin
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sean in calgary
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Wendy in Montreal
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Great work canadians!
Layton B in Moncton NB
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George
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I quite agree with your comments. I for one would love to show up in the house some day and stand up and tell the members to answer the questions and stop acting for the cameras. I know the security boys would be right there but then a simple comment of "You guys work for me and I want you children to sit down and behave yourselves." If we as Canadians did that more often to our politicians then maybe something useful would actually get done. At least we would have some adults running things in Ottawa.
Paul
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forum just gave Canada number one spot in the world for secure banks ... so relax. The sell off of TSX stocks is virtually all by international and US funds that need the cash. On the whole, Canada is on more solid footing than any other Western country.
Bob C
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Cut the BS
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Dan Palmateer
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This ridiculous plan rewards speculative behaviour. These mortgages should simply be defaulted and the houses connected to them placed back on the open market to bring down the artificially high price that currently exist,due to speculation, in Canada's housing market. The banks have been making sufficient profits for many years and they do not need to feed at the public trough now.
Michelle
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My vote is still with the Conservatives! Harper may seem like he is being nonchalant about the economy, he's a thinker and doesn't spout off about things like the "Gas Carbon Tax"!!! That's ludicris. If anyone watched the debate they know that Harper was attacked by both the Liberals and the NDP and Green Party but he didn't get flustered by the attacks. He was calm cool and collected and explained his position calmly. I would rather have a calm thinker leading us versus a leader who spouts off about putting us into more debt. Ya, they are spending money to help the lending companies, but its better they do it "Now" instead of waiting until things get worse down the line. If you are wanting to change any money into something, go with the Royal Bank Federal Bonds. Federal Bonds and GICs seem to be still paying a dividend! I"ve been losing money continually with my LIRA and at least with putting them into Federal Bonds I will still receive at least 3.5-4% instead of losing money!!!
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Morgan
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It always amazes me how (c)Conservatives are willing to use public funds/ state intervention to support banks and oil companies, but scorn the idea of the state helping those in need. Great values! Hopefully, this will help to encourage the ABC (Anything but Conservative) vote.
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As Mark M pointed out these are SECURED mortgages which means there is NO RISK. But the left chooses to ignore chief economists and others that say this is a win-win situation for EVERYONE.
Michelle, health care is in the provincial jurisdiction even though the feds give money to the provinces. When you add up everything, the feds account of 37% of all provincial health care spending (over 30 billion dollars) but it is up to the provinces to determine how that money is spent.
What I am horrified at seeing here is how so many people don't know how the Canadian economy works, and how many more will do say anything (and wish will ill on their fellow citizens) to score political points:
If the conservatives do something, Harper is in panic mode. If they do nothing, they're denying reality of the crisis. To the left, there is no way to give credit where credit is due. THAT is the sign of an ideology in panic mode.
The fact is that they have done everything right and have dealt with these messes with perfect timing. The numerous reports in recent days from various non-partican organizations show just that. Canada is in the best shape of all the G7 facing this global problem despite the fact that we are the biggest trading partner to the country that started it in the first place. That in itself speaks volumes. BTW, BOTH the Dems (by forcing banks to loan to non-qualified individuals) and GOP (by not sounding the alarm more forcefully) caused this mess.
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What ever happened to not bailing out banks? Word it what you will .It is a bailout.
As for the comment towards Dion's english ,I am not prejudice towards ones language.I could care less if our PM does not speak english as clear as others might.This will come.The same goes for a PM that needs to learn to speak better french.
I am more concerned as to what they brought and will bring after the election.So far Dion has been honest (having a platform)and having the courage to give people his vision.
Harper told us no bailouts.No new taxes.
Who will pay for this government infusion?
Very good you and I.TAXES!
Paul
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Further, the 24 billion is an investment. I'm surprised how ignorant so many are as to what the government just did. A short course in finance would stop a lot of (ABC) tongues from wagging.
Jimbo
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Now we have 5% down 35 year mortgages which are almost as bad. I hope they rethink offering these as well.
J.C.
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The comments I have read here just go to show how many people are ignorant to how the economy works, and how they buy into the doom and gloom theories of the Liberals and NDP.
Our TAXES ARE NOT PAYING for this,The money is just being transferred so that the banks will lighten up with their credit to keep things flowing well. However if Layton or Dion get elected YOU CAN COUNT on YOUR TAXES GOING UP AND HAVING A LOT LESS INCOME TO WORK WITH!!! Have some faith in your current leaders people and stop listening to all the rhetoric of the opposition who only want to buy your votes. Did you not hear how Dion stumbled when asked about the economy recently? HE DOESN'T seem to KNOW!!!! He will rely on his "team" to hopefully get him through as he does not have the knowledge himself. Is this who you want as a leader???
Dave in Que.
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Everything is fine. We are not the US, we have rules for our banks. We will not be in recession, all is sound.
That was 3 days ago.
Today, bank bailout.
Flaherty and the CONServatives introduced that 0 down 40 to life mortgage sentence.
It's their fault.
Now we all pay.
Wait to see home prices go down 20% in a year from now.
A bloodbath in the making...
SF
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Conservative Flaherty doesn't understand economics
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Rogers said that the only solution to the market crisis was to let failing banks and speculators go bankrupt and stop pumping endless amounts of liquidity into the system, labeling it outrageous that responsible investors and taxpayers are being made to bail out crooks on Wall Street.
“The way to solve this problem is to let people go bankrupt,” Rogers stressed, “All of this pumping money into the system is not going to save it - see what the market is saying, it’s saying we don’t buy that, let people go bankrupt,” he added.
“Then you will hit bottom and then you start over. The people who are sound will take over the assets from the people who aren’t sound and we will start over. This is the way the world has worked for a few thousand years,” said Rogers.
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1. Canada's banks rated safest in the world according to a report by the World Economic Forum
2. Canada gains a record 107,000 jobs in September
3. Manufacturing jobs rose by 1% or roughly 20,000
4. Government eliminates 100% mortgage financing and 40 year term mortgages
5. Government to purchase $25 billion dollars worth of mortgage debt from the banks in order to increase lending to business and consumers (first Conservative promise to be more than a billion dollars)
I really wish Harper would stop saying Canada's economy is so stable.
eric
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If the bailout is needed, please justify it. If it is just to help the banks, their billions of dollars of annual profits should be more than enough to see them through "tough times".
Let the banks stand on their own two feet the same way I do when times are tough.
Conservatives spending to assuage panic
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JonathanNB
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Conservatives bumbling and stumbling
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Harper may not be perfect but he sure beats the options at this point. Dion cannot even answer questions without using canned phrases and statements and Layton??? ... enough said.
Count your blessings
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Yes, we are going to be knocked around - we are part of a global economy and the pain of others is going to be our pain to some extent because they won't be buying as much from us. But open your eyes and look around - look at BBC.COM for example and see how England and Scotland, and other European countries are being knocked around much worse than we are or will be.
Count your blessings and be thankful we have Harper and Flaherty at this difficult time.
Bert in Kelowna
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Don in Calgary
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Larry L
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Isn't excessive debt what caused the problem in the first place. And, now, Misters Harper and Flaherty are indicating even more debt will solve the problem. C'mon now, get back to the drawing board but, first, remind yourself that you can fool some of the people some of the time but you can't fool all of the people all of time.
Michael
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OK for everyone reading this relax and breath a little. The credit crisis in the states was caused by questionable mortgage practices, which lead to complex financial derivatives, which allowed companies to leverage themselves massively in order to place bets on risky mortgage backed securities.
Canadian banks have not partaken in such risky activities, or at least not to the same extent as in the states.
With the credit crisis in the states and now across the globe, available borrowings for companies, including banks, has pretty much frozen and companies, including Canadian banks, are going to feel a credit crunch where they don't have as much cash at their disposal as they used to, and thus will tighten up their lending in order to stay on the conservative side of things.
A canadian bank holds mortgages in the asset account of its balance sheet, because people owe them money. For the most part, because of our financial prudence, these are secured and priced appropriately for their risk.
By buying these ASSETS, the Canadian government is not losing in NET WORTH. We are spending $25B in cash for $25B in assets.
The effects of this are such that overtime, the government will receive repayment of those mortgages by their holders... giving us back our $25B in cash.
Right now, this frees up a lot of money for the Canadian financial system, meaning they won't have to tighten up their lending, which means that more money will be available to Canadians that need it, personally or for business, which in turn means we will likely not feel as much effect from the economic slowdown as we may have otherwise.
Please think things through before you make rash judgements.
VOTE CONSERVATIVE
Ian
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Basic Economics 101
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Simple there is a lot of transborder flow of finances and in light of recent events liquidity is still an issue because that 700 billion hasn't made its way into the flow as yet so our country is preempting any slowdown by keeping lots of liquidity in the hands of our banks. It is a wise and prudent move. It isn't a bailout because they aren't buying bad mortgages they are exchanging secured mortgages for cash to the banks to lend.
It really is very simple and a great idea to keep us ahead of the pack.
That combined with our lower dollar will keep manufacturing going longer and stronger.
Dayton
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Vic Leutschaft from Dryden
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A Real IT Manager from Calgary
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MaggieB, Alberta
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Let's see: we rank no. 1 globally in our banking institutions; our unemployment rate is low; we continue with economic growth. One plus one doesn't equal two here folks.
Do you really think the big banks are going to reduce the interest rate? Nope. Big banks are smiling and are in for an opulent Thanksgiving weekend.
Wade - Lets Vote to Keep working
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107,000 job and this good prudent step.
We are on the right track only a Green Shift Carbon Tax would kill our jobs and I mean your job and your sisters job and some of your friends.
Yves Beauchamp
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Kevin Okrainec from Medicine Hat, Alberta
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Can someone explain to me why our dollar continues to fall in relation to the American dollar when they appear to be just making money for the sake of making money and they are big time in debt up to their eye balls (the wars and the 700B buyout).
From a layman's point of view you would think that the American dollar should be falling big time in comparison to the Loonie and other currency with all their debt but it continues to climb!
Metro Man
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RAV
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Mark M and Jonathon are two of the few who seem to really understand what is happening to the banking system. The magnitude of the world wide crisis seems to have been underestimated by all countries including Canada. The crisis was initiated when the American government allowed unsupported credit into its banking system. Any country dealing with the Americans has had a negative reaction on its own economy.
Canada's banking system is the nation's modulator for controlling the flow of money in and out of the economy. This is liquidity. The Bank of Canada and CMHC are tools used by government in the regulation process. Due to the nervousness in the world wide economy, protection for real assets has become prominent. Investments made on credit are the first to be affected. Thus credit dries up, the stock market value goes down, etc. When credit is not available (particularly for major purchases housing, autos, etc.) the backlash is a loss of jobs which spirals downward and increases the magnitude of the problem. Since the USA is in a recognized recession that will most likely become a depression, Canada, as its most significant trading partner, must be affected.
People who believe that the banks should be able to handle the problem from their own profits do not understand the system. These profits are either already lent out or returned to shareholders in the form of dividends. These profits are not available as a tool to address the current problem in the economy.
Gimme some money.
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Brett in Montréal
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BC Bill
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Conservatives flipping and flopping.
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Yes bailouts.
Economy sound.
Economy not sound.
Hide, Harper. Run and hide.
Shane Prpich
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Now which stupid Canadian (Besides Flaherty)thinks we should be giving our insanely profitable banks 25 billion????
OMG the sky is falling and I am ANGRY!
SHAME!
Disturbed at Lack of Thought
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WAKE UP!
A LITTLE THOUGHT IN THIS WOULD HELP!
People need to realize the big picture all around.
The bailout is part of the worldwide chain-reaction caused/started by the states. (opinion of course)
We are just covering our butts (so to speak)Our economy is not as bad as the rest of the world but there is bleeding going on. Of course higher paying manufacturing jobs are being lost at an alarming rate. Go figure when other countries, such as the states can't buy from us when they have nothing. These jobs will return when the rest of the world becomes stable. With the bailout plans set out, I hope that things will change in the near future. If we as Canadians start supporting ourselves things will get better quicker.
If you need to buy a vehicle, buy Canadian built. Check which ones are actually built in Canada. There are Toyotas, Hondas and other foreign companies building in Canada along with Ford, Gm, and Chrysler, just check which models are built here. SUPPORT YOUR NEIGHBORS.
Buy local produce, meats, and prepared foods. If we buy from ourselves, we will survive.
I for one do not trust any government in any way but will vote for the less evil of all.
The government in power needs to look at the "GREENER WAY OF LIFE", not to tax-but assist in creating affordable alternates to everyday life's requirements.
The government will also need to find ways to attract manufactures to Canadian soil and we as Canadians need to stop trying to push these companies into financial difficulties by asking for more money all the time. Again this becomes a chain-reaction when employees ask for more money at one factory because the product at another has gone up in price for the same reason.
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I sorry but he said nothing but he didn't understand the question. You people need to look at his body language. He looks like the little boy in the playground saying pick me when teams are being drawn.
The Mortage buy outs are world wide not just North America. there is a time to act and a time to review what you are going to do. I don't want to put more taxes on the public but Dion would cost us the world of cash.
Dion was a Liberal in Chretien and Martin's goverment. It shows what he learned when trained by the misguided. God save Canada,the Queen, and us from Mr Dion and Mr Layton
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that the ***taxpayer owns CMHC***. Homeowners pay into the CMHC when they buy houses, and the funds are there for our insurance needs. This bailout *does* affect taxpayers.
Additionally, I would like to know in what regions of Canada this bailout is really helping...it seems to me that last week the media was reporting that the foreclosures in Calgary had risen 13%. Is this bailout intended to help the speculators in Calgary (Mr Harper's home province) who acquired mortgages that they really didn't qualify for? Is the reason this is happening to Calgary (and other jurisdictions in Alberta) really the fact that the provincial (Alberta) and federal governments refuse to enforce policies that keep the unhealthy Alberta economy from continue to explode into the rapid pace that it has been?
I challenge you to go into a bank in Alberta and speak honestly to a mortgage clerk (I have) -- they will tell you that underlying the Alberta economy is a mortgage bubble waiting to burst.
Using 25B will decrease the amount of funds available for honest, hard-working Canadians who may be in need of the insurance for what it is intended.
Perhaps this move had to be done (world economy collapsing etc). But we need to ask what got us to this 25B bailout in Canada? The policies of the provincial government of Alberta and the Feds? Mr. Harper's election and the bailout of high-rolling speculators and builders (especially in Calgary)?
Yesterday everything was fine; today we need a bailout. Is this really necessary or is this really just politics?
Dan
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If you want to convert your hard earned taxes into income then...
[X]Harper.
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BB in B.C.
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"Why are they injecting cash into a system that is said to be the safest and the best in the world ?"
To keep it the nest in the world.
[X]Harper
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That is just what we need, to lend huge amounts of money to people who are living beyond there means. Just to get the credit roling again.
I do not have a problem with borrowing money. so long as we do not stretch ourselves to thin, with houses we can not afford, and the "Do not Pay for XX years" schemes, and the "toys" and paying only the minimum payment on credit cards etc...that have put us into this bad credit situtation in the first place.
Lastly, Why don't the Banks use some of their HUGE profits over the last few years, to sort out their own affairs. Why is it my tax dollar. If I was in trouble financially the bank would not protect me, the way the Government is now protecting the banks.
Everyone including Business and Government, should live within their means
Roger T
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Cease war fundings and look after CANADA first before budding into other countries businesses.
WE ARE CANADIANS!
GP
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Enough is enough, Canadian backs are NOT the friend of the consumer...you just have to look at the increasing spread in their rates.
The Canadian banks are currently more than willing to lend to qualified people and businesses...I know that as a fact.
If this political decision MUST go through then I want something for my tax dollar. I want the taxpayer to get a direct say in the operations of banks, particularly influence over fees and rate setting.
NO BLANK CHEQUE...NO WAY!!!
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I am glad you are exiled with the way you think. The banks have their budgets just as the provinces do but when the banks need help from the feds, they get it, even when it is highly debatable whether they need it or not. The provinces, however, have to let people die while waiting to fix an ailing healthcare system that is clearly in need.
My mother died prematurily from cancer because it took them over six months to diagnose her and then they finished her off by giving her septacemia in an ER which wasn't sterilization things properly.
Yes, this handing money to rich banks that are sitting pretty compared to the rest of the world has me pretty steamed when the feds cry poor when people ask for better health care.
We have lots of money, but just not for ordinary Canadians.
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Anything But Harper
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It is obviously a response to the attacks of the opposition leaders who guarantee that they would take action in this time of crisis?
Layton would re-regulate what the IMF calls the best regulated banks in the world in his efforts to scare people into voting for him.
And Dion promises have some meetings, at least I think that's what he's saying.
And when has a Liberal ever kept a promise?
If you look up lie in the dictionary you'll find a picture of Chretien,Martin etc.
I seem to remember someone saying "I will scrap the tax"
Was that a Liberal??
And of course there's the media,creating stories where none exist and spinning everything out of control to sell a paper or air time.
Anyone in favour of a law forbidding the publishing of poll results 1 week before an election?
Perhaps it would be a good idea for the voters to think for themselves for a change.
Oh well I guess I'll just grin and bear it and give the bank my $1,000 share thanks to the opposition and the media.
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Is the government going to invest to protect my market investments which have dropped significantly? NO! And I do not want my taxes to pay for an economic crisis bailout on top of already losing major value in my investments.
So now the government will own mortgages. Does that mean I can use these houses as collateral? Since I pay a fortune to the fund the government each year?
ABC. That's what Canada needs. Anyone But Conservative.
Harper and his subjects are fools.
Doz
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Thanks HArper for committing about $800 plus dollars for every person in Canada to make sure the banks maintain extremely high profits. Thats is over $2400 for a family of four. Did Mini-Me Harper phone each one of us to see if it was OK to throw our money to such a desperate cause? ......Hmmm...I don't hear it ringing????
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Flaherty saw the errors of his conservative ways and flip-flopped and took away 40/0 so now he is having to bail out the banks for lending to precarious buyers. Banks make huge profits, in the billions each year, so now taxpayers have to take the risk because Harper and Flaherty made poor economic decisions with their 40/0 idea.
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If you truly understand what is going on here, this is a good thing.
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Basically, the gov't is buying sound mortgages (Canadian mortgages) that the banks can't repackage and sell to other investors. My understanding is that there's nothing wrong with this debt except that no one wants to touch them because they're painted with the same brush as the US garbage.
In theory, with those mortgages off their plates, the banks can loosen up and start lending again thereby stimulating growth. And if people pay their mortgages then the gov't shouldn't lose anything.
So, no need to freak out, in my opinion.
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I do tend to agree with several people who make the point that the major banks have been reaping record profits year after year from the Canadian people. Now when times are tough, they ought to be willing to pony up some of their reserves to help out the economy.
Will
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Can someone explain to me why the Conservatives aren't doing a great job and need to be replaced...???
Barb in Calgary
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I don't understand Stephen you said everything was fine a few days ago and we shouldn't panic what changed?
Oh you woke up Great!
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