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Date: Wed. Oct. 8 2008 9:47 PM ET

With less than a week until election day and polls showing the race tightening, Stephane Dion delivered a attack on Stephen Harper's leadership -- calling him out of touch with ordinary Canadians in the face of an economic crisis.

Harper is "totally out of touch with reality," Dion said. "He doesn't understand the impact of this economic turmoil of Canadians' daily lives.

"He's singing that same old song, 'Don't worry, be happy.'"

Dion spoke to the same Toronto business audience Wednesday where Harper revealed the Conservative election platform a day earlier and said that the plunging stock market offered "buying opportunities."

The Liberal leader delivered a speech laden on two principles -- that he understood Canadians' fears about their jobs and savings and that his party has a better economic record.

Dion was joined onstage by former finance ministers Ralph Goodale and Paul Martin. It was under Martin's guidance that the Jean Chretien government cut the massive deficits left by Conservative Brian Mulroney.

NDP Leader Jack Layton also attacked Harper along the same lines Dion did.

"Most Canadians are extremely concerned, and yet he's trying to suggest that going out and gambling some of your money is the right strategy," Layton said in Edmonton Wednesday morning.

"I think Canadians are looking for a government that's going to take this issue more seriously than that, and not be so cavalier or so casual."

Harper brushed aside his opponents' attacks in response, saying that Conservative economic proposals are "modest" and "realistic."

He defended his "buying opportunities" comment, saying it was his way of keeping his head.

"The prime minister doesn't join in a wave of stock-market panic and pessimism around the world," Harper said. "What the prime minister does is make sure that we have a long-term plan, that we're acting on it, and that we're identifying good, long-term investments for the Canadian economy."

The Tory leader also flipped the script on Layton and Dion, saying that they were the leaders who were out of touch, with their "risky schemes" to drive away jobs and increase taxes.

Harper credited Conservative initiatives, such as ridding the country 40-year mortgages, as reasons for why Canada will not suffer the same economic fate as the United States.

Conservatives losing support

A number of polls show that the Conservatives are bleeding support across the country, a trend that corresponds with the sputtering economy and wild drops in the stock markets.

The latest Canadian Press Harris-Decima poll gave the Tories 31 per cent support across Canada, just four percentage points above the resurgent Liberals.

The NDP are running in third at 20 per cent support.

"There's no question, it's been a tough week." Conservative strategist Tim Powers told CTV Newsnet Wednesday of the recent polling.

Until recently, the polls had the Tories firmly in front, edging towards a majority. But the latest polls show that Dion, once thought to be only in the running for opposition minister, is gaining.

On Wednesday, Dion told reporters that he expects to become prime minister and has a transition team in place for a change in government.

With files from The Canadian Press

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Dave
said

Is it just me? I have this strong feeling that Harper is going back to his old job as Opposition Leader! Wow....

Harper is an opportunistic control freak. Let's not forget that the ONLY reason he called the elections at this time despite his own fixed election date law was because he thought that he could fool the people into giving him a majority. Well I got news for you Harper...on October 14, 2008 you will indeed get a majority "government" made up of yourself, your wife and your two kids. Go back home and go rule them with your autocratic style of governance. Canadians are smarter than you think!


Lowell
said

I say, let's give Dion a minority government and see how he does. Then we can compare Harper's performance with Dion's and see who is the best. Then let's talk majority. I don't think that harper has anything over Dion when it comes to managing the economy and in fact in many ways, his leadership style and policies are out of touch with what Canadians need.


Mark
said

Is this news? Or is CTV making news?


Rick
said

Attention, Attention:

Liberals - 50+ billion in election promises = Higher taxes, wasteful spending.

NDP - 50+ billion in election promises = Higher taxes, wasteful social programs.

Conservatives - 6 billion in election promises = Lower taxes, less government intrusion.

Easy choice - I know who I'm voting for.



Gord in Regina Sask
said

I find it funny in this report, that there is no mention of Liberal or NDP alternatives -- Just an attack on Harper. So what exactly are the Liberals and the NDP proposing to get out of this economic slump?

Just as I thought...nothing much.


JohnK
said

Under Jack Layton we will be bankrupt very soon. Dion's bluffing will cost us more taxes. Harper has the common sense approach.


Dd
said

Harper wouldn't even take questions from ordinary citizens on the National, like the other leaders did.

What does he have to hide? He campaigned in 06 on a platform of openness and accountability and he has been anything but.

He fooled me once. Not again.

ABC


Lee Tanner
said

I am so tired of the 'fear mongering' Liberals and NDP. Stephen Harper is the ONLY leader who has a realistic approach and attitude regarding our economic status in the world. If we listened the Dion and Layton we'd a be yelling "sell the farm! the depression is coming!". Can you imagine the panic - that's what causes economic downturns. Be realistic people!


David
said

Those deficits were NOT left by Mulroney, they were left by Trudeau! Trudeau gave Mulroney a 38 Billion dollar deficit, Mulroney gave Chretien a 41 Billion dollar deficit. The numbers don't lie, but the spin doctors in the media sure do!


BB in B.C.
said

I have a little trouble believing the polls. It would make sense if NDP and Green votes went to the Liberals but to think Conservative support is jumping ship is too much of a stretch for me. I can see the polls being fixed but I hope the ballots are safe from tampering.


Glo from Ottawa
said

Excuse me Mr. Dion. YOU are out of touch with what we want. A new tax? $80 billion in spending? Thanks, but NO THANKS!


John from Fredericton.
said

Harper called an election to sieze an opportunity to get a majority government

Instead he's struggling to hang on to power.

He may get another minority, but it could be a weaker one, in which he will not accept.


Bob
said

Sorry, but I am an ordinary Canadian and I feel that MR. Harper is handling the situation correctly. When confidence in the market is in question you don't need idiots jumping on platforms and screaming that we are in trouble. Or Idiots that want to attach a tax on the most basic level of the market and watch it snowball out of control. The Idiots that keep forecasting doom and gloom are not the people I want managing my country. Or wasting billions on gun control and padding the pockets of your pals with billions more. No Mr Harper has the right approach, you need sanity running the country, not idiots.


Richard in Toronto
said

Dion is resorting to smear tactics such as those used in the American election. In reality, his Green Tax would kill the Canadian economy.


Dayton
said

I for one will not invest in the new economy of Dion's. I would rather invest in Mexico than the new third world Dion will bring to us here. Dion gives me no reason to invest here!


J. Smith
said

Yet another peek behind the mind of the head Neo-Con buffoon, Harper, aka Bush-lite. These conservatives cannot help but embarass themselves.


Steve in Aylmer
said

Mr. Harper,

Enjoy the next week as Prime Minister because even if you win your minority, your caucus will ask for your resignation as their leader. Because if you can`t win a majority with Stephan Dion as Liberal leader, whatta gonna do when they replace Dion with a more charasmatic leader.

The problem was, and still is, too many didn`t trusted him and he couldn`t get past that point.



Rationale Voice
said

What makes everyone think that: (a) harper is responsible for the economic downturn, and (b) that any of the opposition leaders can do better!!?


Strategically Challenged Conservatives
said


Anyone else here notice that we haven't had a "Strategic Counsel" Poll in the last week trying to sway voters into choosing Harper ever since every other poll firm has shown that the Conservatives are starting to bleed support?

They tried hard last election too.

Not even an update on their own website since Sept. 21. - interesting. I guess the Nanos polls are more indicative of what's going on out there.


Roger
said

Harper Go home!
We are Not stupid, we are not going voting for you , now we know what kind of leader you are


Joe Smith
said

Dion as Prime Minister, Wow! hold onto your pocket books. Does anyone really believe that the Liberals will be better for our country. All i know is that as a middle income earner, I have more disposaable income since the Conservatives have been in office. Don't forget about the Liberal Green plan (shaft) Nothing is ever revenue neutral. Why should we as a Nation damage our economy to combat green house gases when the main contributors (china, India, Russia) are not held to the same standard. If we as a people ceased to exist, it would only reduce the worlds green house gase by 2%. Are the Liberal supporters willing to pay more money to make thmeselves feel like they are making a difference, when they really aren't. Keep that in mind when you vote.

If the Liberals would move back to the centre i might vote for them but as long as they want to tax me and tell me how to live, well they won't get my vote.

As for some people that say Harper won't keep his word, Wake up people all of them are Politicans, they are all less than honest opportunists. And so far PM Harper has done a good job.

Lets hope that on Oct 14 we get a Goverment that we need, not one we deserve.

PM Harper you have my vote.


Alberta Believer
said

"Harper is an opportunistic control freak."

Dave, I like hearing this jab from you left-wingers and its so evident as in what Dion lacks, leadership. When you are the head of an organization you wear its successes as well as its failures therefore you are to take the front position in that organization.

As an effective leader you can delegate only so much before your sheip ends up being captained by the most forceful and competent individual to whom you have delegated away all of your responsibilities.

You know as a former army officer, I always knew that we as a class of Canadians preferred the Conservatives to the Liberals or NDP on policy issues, however I must say that the take charge leadership style exhibited by most Conservative leaders attracted alot of us to the Tory side in contrast to the dithering limp wristed styles exhinited by most NDP and Grit leaders.

Pathetic and spineless behaviour has become too common place in Canadian society and leadering the charge in that direction are the Liberals and their socialist allies the NDP. Whether its political correctness, human rights tribunals, social engineering, a policy of flight from the challenging military conflicts abroad or from prosecuting criminals and terrorists here at home, you lefties will not be allowed to further emasculate our nation.


Lee Tanner
said

and one more thing...

I hope you are all smart enough to see what Dion is doing. In the last leg of the race, he's grasping at straws and attacking his opponent in any which way he can, whether it be logical or fear mongering. This recent speech, as per this article, clearly shows Dion scrambling and desperately trying to appeal to your emotional side.... "oh no! Harper doesn't care about us". Give your head a shake - before you buy into Dion, and Layton's, fear mongering last minute ditch attempt to sway your vote. Take note.... he (Dion) says nothing about his approach on Canada's economic standing.... it's only attack! attack! attack! Again... please, don't buy into that emotional vote buying.


wreck76
said

Dion should be very thankful to the politicians south of us for the stock market crash. It's the only thing that is saving him as people buy into this panic. Now I'm affraid that too many will buy in and he could end up as PM (shudder).


Reece
said

Ahhhhh! The trusty water hose to put out pesky fires. Harper and his rate cut is akin to throwing water onto an oil fire...completely useless but looks like you're doing something.


tim
said

The reason Harper does not take questions is that the liberal media will screen calls, while soft balling the ndp and liberals. The economic plan for the liberals and ndp are to spend tens of billions, idiots.


Dan
said

Dion,

Please stop yelling at me. Please...

And BTW, "Don't worry, be happy." Isn't that someone else's speech? Oh wait a minute, that is a song owned by somebody else, you are just "using" it! I get it... Wait a minute, do you have permission to use the song's words? This could be a you stomping on somebody's rights here. Kind of like the "Shift" you know the Green? Owned by a legal company, "borrowed" by you, with out their permission.



Connie
said

When Harper said he understood because he has 'been between jobs" he totally lost me.


John
said

The polls are roughly 5 days old and irrelevant, the only poll that matters is the one on October 14th, END OF STORY...


Paul in BC
said

Stephane Dion appears to be correct in his assessment of Stephen Harper. It would appear Harper has nothing new to offer ordinary Canadians or the business community.

It would appear Harper is out of touch with the rest of us. Dion realizes, as do all leaders around the world, that this is a global economic crisis and each leader from around the world is putting plans into action to help its people.

As they said this week, Canada's leading bankers and business people know Canada is in a recession. When Harper was at the Canadian Club he still refused to acknowledge what the rest of the world knows, we are in a worsening recession. When you are in denial you have nothing to present except glossy booklets with Harper's photograph on every second page.

I prefer the intelligence and detailed plans of Mr. Dion. He has been polite, steady and straightforward with ordinary Canadians. I like Dion's massive income tax cuts, his protection plans for our savings, pensions and investments and a revenue neutral pollution tax - it's not a risky scheme as Harper suggests but forwarding looking towards a modern, clean economy.

As for Flaherty and Harper taking credit for Canada's strong banking system; they are taking credit for the small "l" liberal philosophy in Canada that made Canada's banking system as good as it gets around the world. It was the Liberal Party that resisted deregulating the banks like they did under George W. Bush and his conservative Republicans in the USA which started the economic mess in the USA and spread world wide.


Khloe
said

If Stephane Dion becomes Prime Minister -- I'll eat my shorts. The Tax and Spend Liberals -- do NOT deserve another term in office. they will tax us to death. If you think the eonomy is bad -- the Dion Green Shift will put us in bankruptcy. How quickly we forget the Liberal Sponsorship scandal.


BBL
said

Whom do we believe Dion's fear mongering or the IMF?
Canada to lead G7 in GDP growth in '09: says IMF on
Wednesday, October 8, 2008
"Canada will lead the other G7 countries in economic growth in 2009, a muted honour considering that the global economy should slow markedly, according to a new IMF study released Wednesday.

The International Monetary Fund said this country should see economic growth in the range of 1.2 per cent next year, less than half of what Canda experienced in 2007, but the best performance among Japan, the United States, Italy, France, Germany and the United Kingdom."

Full articles on various news sites


Danny Dinosaur
said

This might be kind of crazy, but how about lowering taxes on productivity? That would be a great way to help out the "productive' sector of the economy.
Too bad you didn't think of it Mr. Harper. It is actually a pretty good right wing policy.
That's what happens when you are too busy fighting everything and trying to censor people. Sometimes you miss the obvious.


Layton B in Moncton NB
said

Why is it that when a leader sees the problem and shares that with the electorate that leader is panicking, but when a leader says everything is fine when the worlds economy is crapping its pants, then he is "the only leader who can lead us out of the crisis"?
If the Leader won't even admit there is a problem, then yea, he's out of touch. Dion has been saying all along that there is a serious problem with the economy and has shown a plan to cope with it. Harper IS in denial. How can all these people say "Oh the Conservatives and Harper are the only ones who can lead us through this" when Harper and the Conservatives won't even admit there is a problem. This is a man who won't take unscripted questions, this is a man who makes public announcements that are not open to the public. His platform is a conglomeration of what the polls say and the best ideas from the other parties. That's not leadership, that's governance by opinion polls. He has run a super secretive government after running on openness and accountability, but hasn't seemed to mention that in THIS campaign. During this trying time, we cannot afford Harper. We need someone who will speak frankly to Canadians and Harper isn't. I had been on the fence, but now Dion HAS my vote.


Edb
said

"Transition team"
Wow, talk about out of touch and ARROGANT. It's the ol' we're the only party allowed to govern gag. Well, what can I say...if Canadians fall for this, then they deserve what they get. The transition team can negotiate with the new independent states of the west for oil and wheat.


Dayton
said

Your right Lowell, Canadians need more gun carrying 14 year old's on our streets. We need more taxes. We need hysterical leadership who change with the wind or polls. Give Dion a chance and then we'll all look back and say hey that Harper wasn't that bad. We were in a surplus, the economy was going great at least out west and then came the Liberals and F&^dged it all up. That's exactly what we need.


Will
said

Looks like the 3 stooges have given the reigns back to the one stooge. Maybe after the election Dion can get a nice job running a library or something

Go Steve Go.....!!!!!


Steve from gloucester
said

What can you say about a Prime Minister who unveils his election platform after the advance polls are closed, not much . He is running scared and becoming desparate. Vote ABC.


seenith
said

You know what Stephane couldn't see Stephen because similar names & few spelling difference. What a view...immature cry for few votes. Lot of fuss...


Jorja
said

Harper could show a little more compassion for the average guy (or girl) who is scared, and has lost money they worked hard for. However, I still firmly believe that he is the best choice to run Canada, especially in these difficult times. We don't need any of the other leaders who are only inciting more panic, and who want to up our taxes even more. The NDP or the Liberals would only make the economic situation much, much worse.


James Eh!
said

Today Mr. Harper stated that Canadian banks are in a better position than US. banks due to conservative policies, such as ending 40 year zero down mortgages. Nice spin, forgetting the timeline.

First, CMHC backed 40/0 mortgages were brought in as a conservative policy by his Finance Minister Jim Flaherty.

Second, only after the housing crisis started did the conservatives change policy ending 40/0 mortgages.

Stephen Harper's contention that conservative polices have helped our banks maybe true. But those policies were the conservative policies of the best finance minister the PC's or CPC's never had, Liberal Finance Minister Paul Martin!

The policies of this conservative government, namely 40/0, have not helped on little bit.


Worried
said

I would like to hear something more reassuring then "don't worry, be happy" from the person who is supposedly looking after my best interests (Mr. Harper).He does not instill much confidence in me or any of the other professionals that I presently work with and I have a job. Imagine the people that have lost theirs.Where does a person get in line to give the finance minister the boot?


Craig in BC
said

Only in Canada would people consider voting for someone who cant speak english and would be an laughing stock on the world stage, and then wants to add a new tax in a time of economic chaos. Is Harper responsible for a WORLD wide problem caused by the US. Once again Central Canada is about to make Canada the laughing stock of the world. Give your head a shake people.


wes
said

Harper out of Touch??

I guess Dion hasnt heard about the dislike of his proposed Carbon Tax, or the fact that its the WORLD Economy, and not the Canadian economy that is tettering on bankrupcy.



Bob NS
said

People would come to their senses on election day and vote for the only Party to stick too in this turmoil time: The Conservative and Mr Harper.


Winnipeg
said

I for one am happy to see the Conservatives' measured approach to managing our economy. Using surplus dollars to pay down accumulated debt showed wisdom, as the interest payments (dead spending) will be lower during leaner times. The other actions taken to lower taxes over the last 2 years will also benefit individuals and the corporations upon whom individuals depend for jobs. The fact that those forward looking actions and others have already been taken is a good reason why we don't have to gut and rebuild our economic policy the way Mr. Dion and Mr. Layton advocate. Beware the people who look on hard times as their opportunity to change things. In the rush to change everything, some very good policies and programs can be tossed out in favour of the "new ideas". Then, when it is too late, we find out what has happened. Mr. Harper has been doing what he said he would do when he was elected. He is telling us what he will do if re-elected. Contrast this with Mr. Dion's proposal for weeks of meetings followed by some solution. We have no idea what he wants to do. Talk about a hidden agenda ! He can have all the meetings and do what he planned in the first place - which he isn't telling us.


RobO
said

When will the people who make post here actual read up on the ecomony and follow all the dots.

You have to get over the fact that the ecomony is going south, so is the rest of the world.

Hard to beleive that ONE MAN (PM) can cause all the problems. Crap people grow up and be well informed before you put your feet (yes both)in your mouth.

Maybe we should go and look at the past Liberal party. They seem want to take money from the tax payers and give it to the social programs that they support, yet people don't understand that the Liberals did this before and the Prov ended up eating the cost changes to there programs.

So if you want a socialist state the takes you from the birth to death, then vote the Liberals or NDP in. But if you want a government that is willing to stand up to unneeded social programs (ARTS)then Mr. Harper has my vote.

Now, people remember that the deficit came from the Liberals!

Liberals promised to cancel the GST, that never happened!

They cut the deficit by robbing pension funds! Mine was one of them!

So for all you people that want to have the government controlling you money and lives - vote Liberal.


barry - ontario.
said

Let me get this straight. the liberal govt and their inept 'leader' (folks, Duceppe speaks better English & he has a limp hand shake) calls an economist out of touch with the economy?

Harper is an economist folks, not a lawyer like liberal leaders usually are, AN ECONOMIST. Something tells me he might know A BIT about the economy.


Patricia
said

Harper is scary. He does not care about the interests of all Canadians only the rich, the more rich and the very rich. Ordinary people will suffer if he gets a majority and all you ordinary folks who are currently praising him to the skies will soon see what he is capable of if he is given full rein with our Canada. You will be shocked. None of us will recognize our country anymore. Don't say that you weren't warned. Conservatives have even taken the Progressive out of the party name which helps to prove that they subscribe to a very rigid form of government. ABC please for this country's sake!


Erich
said

Conservatives all the way and without any questions or doubt. The Liberals are a group of incompetent politicians. Look at their track record people!!! Dion has no grasp on reality nor does his group of ex Ontario premieres or ex BC NDP premiere as they had driven their provinces into financial black holes. Our federal government has no power on the world economy so why do Layton and Dion keep blaiming the Conservatives for economic problems that have not even happened here! The markets are at the numbers 4 years ago and everyone out west is still working and still hiring immigrants because no one from out east wants to relocate. If you choose to be unemployed in this country then you will be, that simple folks. If you choose to be homeless, then you will be. A comment for those folks who keep on harping "ABC" because their leader who is trying to detour a major lawsuit because of his government incompetence, think first before you act like a sheep. I am voting Conservative as they have actually made the federal government accountable by conducting many internal audits!!! This party has a reality on our country and that party has made this country better and stronger. Vote Conservative!!


Colin
said

Dion is the one completely out of touch in this election has anyone noticed he is spending all of his time criticizing our economy and conveniently NOT mentioning his screwy idea of a carbon tax especially now with our econmy in jeopardy. Funny how that works out isn't it. The sooner we get this election over with and the sooner the liberals get their house in order with a decent leader the better for Canada.


Jimbo
said

Hey, Dave, Dd, J Smith..here is your forum..instead of attack barbs and rhetoric..sway undecided voters with your explanation/understanding of how Layton/Dion programs will help the country..tell about spending figures, taxes, and any benefits. You dislike Harper? OK! Again give undecided voters solid reasons to vote NDP or Liberal that do not attack Harper. What are these parties going to do for us. Unfounded attacks are easy. Let's hear the plans and the costs.


Melanie
said

Some of these posts are so stupid,and so filled with false information,and outright lies,that I have to suspect they are written by pary workers.Or maybe just Canadians who have a party loyalty and are twisting reality to meet their party platform.
I don't like Harper much either.But the thought of Bob Rae as finance minister is downright scary.Wake up Ontario.Have you forgotten those days already?? Ujall Dosanjh gave an equally impressive performance here in BC.
Anyone who votes for parties advocating higher taxes and more debt for Canada,when the cause of this crisis is so blatantly obvious,should be charged with treason.


Pam in Waterloo
said

So Dion--a political scientist with limited understanding of Economics--thinks that he has all the answers (or will find the magic answers within 30 days of being elected).

And Harper--a trained Economist who has kept our country stable in spite of global economic uncertainty--is "out of touch??"

NOT!

Harper gets it. Dion doesn't. Apparently 2/3 of Canadians are dumb enough to believe the Liberals and NDP because they offer quick easy answers that panicky people want to hear.

And the geek who tells the truth will get voted out.

In a year or less, those who put Dion in will regret their decision and we will end up back at the polls.

History will treat Harper very well, I think. Even if the Canadian people do not.

There is still time to change your minds people. Look around the world at western nations and ask who is doing best in spite of the turmoil. Answer: Canada.

Harper is our best choice to weather this storm and remain stable. Please Canada: don't blow it!


MN
said

I cannot believe all those people blaming the woes of Wall Street on Harper. Nor can I understand why the eastern population listens to the 2 barking dogs Dion and Layton.
Keep it up and we will have a country in the toilet and I can say to all those idiots, I told you so !!


Greg in the Hammer
said

Dion and Layton have been getting a free ride from the media. Not one penetrating difficult question.

They are spreading fear and panic to curry votes. Its shameful and cheap and is the very thing they accuse the PM of.

Their policies will devastate the economy here.

If Dion gets even a minority then Canadians will get the government they deserve. Disaster.


evje from Barrie
said

Who would believe this loser. The Liberal Party (and Dion) have been out of touch for the last 25 years. By the way, where is the $60,000,000 the Liberal Party stole in Adscam? Perhaps if the Liberals paid that back to the government, it would help a lot of seniors etc. through this financial crisis.

HKP in Vancouver
said

If you listen to Harper ...Canada is the only Country in the World that is NOT effected by the current Financial crisis...!!! way to go Stevie...just keep your head in the sand...ps 31% in the Polls = minority Goverment...!!!


Peter
said

This is BLATANT PLAGARISM of Obama's speeches about McCain. How dare Dion slam Harper about copying speeches when he's doing the same thing.

Is Dion still running for prime minister? If he won, I'd consider moving to Australia.


CW
said

It is comments like these thinking that Layton or Dion could run this country better than Harper actually does show the ignorance that some Canadians have. Let Dion run the country for 4 years and you will be begging for any one else.


Larry NL
said

Mr. Dion hasn't been in touch with the Canadian economy for the past 15 years. Oh, I know where he got his information, he went to Paul Martin.

And speaking of Paul Martin, how come the CTV news hasn't been pursuing his latest book that tells how Mr. Chretien screwed up his chance to win the last election?



james from Vancouver
said

230 Economists agree with Dion and on the principles of Carbon Tax Shifting. Shifting a tax on pollution (consumption) and decreasing taxes on income.

A vote for the NDP, CPC, Bloc, Greens = recipe for a Conservative majority.

Please be vote wise and consider voting for Dion. The only principled, steady leader with a plan.


Doug in NB
said

I don't believe the polls, expecially in the last few days. I rarely hear of anybody planning to vote ABC, and I live in the Maritimes. This looks polling firms trying to either prop up the opposition parties or people are telling them something other than there planning


Laureen
said

I'm an ordinary Canadian Mr. Dion and I don't know hwat you are talking about.


chuck from Wainwright
said

If the conservative government is so bad.... why do the headlines NOT show Canada bailing out financial instutions like most of the world's governments are? Could it be that Canada is better off than the others? Could Mr Harper be right? Could it be that many people who repeatedly say that they are not stupid and Harper is, be wrong? Did I miss a bunch of headlines about Canadian Financial Instutions folding, being Nationalized, taken over? Is fear more important that truth? Should Canada throw money at industries that cannot sell thier products because the clients are broke or cannot pay for them? Someone please answer.


Brian
said

What is up with all you Dion & Layton lovers you must have way to much money in your pockets or what that YOU can afford more taxes!!!!!




A Real IT Manager from Calgary
said

Nothing but fear mongering from the Liberals and the NDP and it's working because the media goes along with it. Instead of being level headed like Harper is correctly doing, all we get out of the opposition is more and more squawking about how the world is ending. If the Liberals do form the next government, it will be a complete disaster for our economy. Very scary!


Linda
said

So let me get this right, Mr. Dion's famous great plan for the economy is to set up meetings to come up with a plan after he is elected?

Come on people does this make sense to you?

I would advise everybody to look at their financial situation and seriously ask themselves can they afford a Liberal or an NDP government?

So you don't like Mr. Harper personally, but who cares. Political leaders are generaly not liked and are not suppose to give us warm fuzzy feelings. Many of us hate our boss, but yet we still go to work for them, because they provide a means for us to live.

Wake up Canada! Can you really afford more taxes. People in Ontario remember the health tax? Do you want to add another tax (carbon tax) to your earnings.


Ash
said

Harper thinks that many Canadians can benefit from the crisis by buying cheap stocks. (Marie Antoinette "Let them eat cake").
I guess he would be a good stock broker rather than a PM


Diane M.
said

Some Canadians,sadly,are so shallow.Charismatic,fuzzy wuzzy is what they prefer.All flash and no substance.Plenty of character assassination.
Dion and Layton are probably having a big laugh over how easy it is to sway the voting public.


Rob
said

The sky is falling! The sky is falling!! I haven't got any good ideas but The Sky is Falling...... oh I wish we could be rid of that little whiner.


Rob
said

He is fighting the Libs, NDPs, Bloc, Greens, PCs(NL Pr Danny Williams) and the Canadian Press. He is a good leader...the best choice we have, but I think this brutal election is starting to take a toll. Looks like we will be back at the starting gate, a PC min Goverment...unless he can turn it around.
Good Luck Stevie,
Loyal NL PC


Sieg, Winnipeg
said

The only thing that Dion is doing, is to viciously attack the PM. He talks about plans, but so far he never said what these plans are. Sorry, I cannot trust Dion. He is misleading the Canadian public.
I am sorry to notice that most comments against Harper seem to be motivated by plain personal hatred.


Wayne Whig
said

*Enjoy the next week as Prime Minister because even if you win your minority, your caucus will ask for your resignation as their leader. Because if you can`t win a majority with Stephan Dion as Liberal leader, whatta gonna do when they replace Dion with a more charasmatic leader.*

Which `more charismatic' leader is this?
Ignatieff? Rae?
Martha Hall Findlay?

Stay tuned



Sean
said

Simple Rick. HAHAHA I Love your equations. That's the type of dumbing down that conservatives rely on to win elections.


Wally in Black Point, NS
said

I am amazed how so many folks commenting here seem to be falling for the "bafflegarb" being touted by Dion and Layton. These Party leaders have not presented one single idea how they would improve the financial crisis now upon us. I want a calm. measured approach without academic rhetoric or political panic.
Thank Heavens for Harper.


Keith
said

How I would like to use other words to describe Mr Dion..but ! Insert toungue
here and bite.Is that all this guy can say:

"totally out of touch with reality"

No way in hell will I ever vote for his backward plans..
people are nuts to vote him in.Why spend money you DON'T have.Where are the logistics???


Steve the Pundit
said

Good plan Dion; haul out the guy (Martin) that gutted nearly 28 billion out of transfer payments to the provinces and curtailed medical school enrollments and convince people he's an economic genius because he "balanced the budget".

Liberals are not good "economic stewards"; they will go whatever way the wind blows in order to get elected.

By the way, anybody heard Dion talk about "Green Shift" lately? Where's your principled leadership now? Gone with the wind...


KJ from Kingston Ontaio
said

Seems that elections in Canada - and perhaps the US are always decided by the 10% to 15% of the population that don't even know there's going to be an election until it is a days away, which is so frustrating for people who follow news and Canadian politics very closely. I think anybody feels things will be better in Canada if Harper loses this election is in a very big surprise this winter. In my view Harper has been the best PM in my lifetime and that covers well over half a century.


Victor Leutschaft
said

Vic from Dryden

Talk about the Conservatives being out of touch with the economy! Just today Finance Minister Jim Flaherty said, "We have a competitive banking system", when asked about the big banks passing the Bank of Canada interest rate cuts to consumers. Isn't it amazing that ALL the big banks passed only half the rate cut to customers. Where's the competition, Jim?


Mitch in MB
said

Please remain calm people...all I've seen from these postings are people who have no understanding of politics and the economy blame Harper for the current economic conditions. Anyone who has common sense would tell you that these economic conditions would be happening regardless of whoever was Prime Minister (Paul Martin, Stephen Harper, Stephane Dion, or Jack Layton, etc.). I agree that Mr. Harper has taken the best approach because sometimes doing nothing is a lot better than doing something (Trudeau and his National Energy Program that nearly destroyed the West in the 1980's, and caused 19% interest rates).


Shannon
said

The Canadian media gives the Liberal party all of the headlines, and the stupid Ontario voters eat it up. The Liberal Party says that the Conservatives don't know what they are doing, and the Ontario voters say "Okay, I'll vote Liberal".

I have lived in Ontario my entire life (40 yrs) and I am disgusted with the voting public here. I'm sure Mr. Dion is a nice man, but he should not be running our country. Period.


JFJ
said

Strange, Canada - the only country in the world whose banks are not threatened with bankruptcy.

Canada - just about the only country whose government banned 100% financing of house purchases. The Left's poster boy, Bill Clinton, made 100% mortgage possible in the US and substantially started the current mess.

Dion has a plan. He's planning to develop a plan to get others to develop his plan. He hasn't got a clue what should be in it. Harper has been acting on his plan. That's the reason our banks are rock solid.

Sure some in businesses that export to the US will inevitably lose jobs. But imagine how many more jobs would be lost when carbon taxes increase export prices!!!!

RBC is agreeing with the approach being taken by Harper.



Kenji
said

If you are worrying about Dion's Carbon Tax and Layton's super high tax, please vote for the endangered Steve Harper next Tuesday.

Let's continue to pay down our debt, so we won't follow the path of united states.

Keep in mind, Bush issued TAX Rebate trying to stimulate economy, but did it work?


Big D
said

Bottom line people:

A vote for Dion is a vote for massive unemployment and high taxes. The more unemployed the higher the taxes! This guys green shift scheme will be far worse than the NEP!

A vote for Layton is also a vote for high taxes and high unemployment. This guy will tax companies all the way to China where there is no greedy Unions jacking up the price of everything.

A vote for MAy is also a vote for high taxes and new scheme tring to fix Canada's minimal world carbon foot print. You can't reduce it much before we can no longer afford anything.

A vote for the Bloc is a vote for your selfish selves. People who vote for this party do not care about CANADA as a whole!

That leaves us with Harper, and the Conservatives who have tried to fix years of miss management and stealing (the party who did this know who they are) and were constanly block by self serving Canada wreakers!

People stated that if the Conservatives erver got into power that they would have troops goos steppping down main street. Never happened. But will if you DON'T let the Harper Canservatives have a try at really running this country


Larry NL
said

Mr. Dion wants the economy of Canada to fail drastically within the next few days so he can say that it is all Mr. Harper's fault. If the Liberals get in, we will see major cut backs to our military, we will see higher taxes, and more manufacturers will leave Canada because of the higher taxes. Then Mr. Dion will use the excuse that no one understands him and it is all Mr. Harper's fault.


Enough is Enough People....
said

Roger, I'm afraid you will be the one going home with your tail between your legs when Harper is still in charge with more seats! Are you still going to whine then? Harper is #1 for Canada. It's a smear campaign and Harper will remain cool through it all. He's my hero to put up with all this BS and our best leader!


Ryan P.
said

Hey Canada, guess what your economy; yeah it is actually the economic envy of the world. And you know what else Stephen Harper and his policies, while not as lavish and headline grabbing as the other two NDP leaders are actually working. Time for some media organization to actually challenge Professor Dion and his absurd accusations that the Canadian economy is on the brink of disaster. Because guess what disaster will only strike it on October 15th with a Liberal government backed by Jack Layton.


r g nielsen
said

This election has been the most embarrassing occurence in Canadian history. The level of honest, open debate has been lowered to abysmal depths through mud slinging, character assasination and grandstanding. The media in this country, desperate for any newsworthy morsel of information has gladly obliged these irresponsible and mostly unelectable candidates by regurgitating their every pathetic utterance. It is more than clear that only one candidate and one party is qualified to lead this country while the others have bowed down to a left of centre pack mentality and resorted to sound bite journalism to get their constant snivelling and back biting views across to a weary for real policies electorate. In the future it may be a good idea to limit elections to three weeks, an all leaders TV special where the leaders explain their vision for this country without interruption and answer questions from citizens instead of reporters. For the sake of this country and for true democracy, clean up this mess. The media should be part of the solution, not throwing more gas on the fire by encouraging this behavior. Shame on Canada for allowing our political system to stoop this low.


Gary Slow from Ottawa
said

I really find it interesting that so many people seem to think the "Green Shift" will kill the Canadian economy. Any carbon tax which is revenue neutral shifts where the government gets their money. In times like these the government wants to encourage people to increase their income. They do this by lowering the income tax rate (which the Green Shift proposes to do). However in order to avoid a deficit the shortfall needs to be made up somehow. The shortfall is made up by taxing destructive behavior like emitting carbon by the truck load.

Ultimately it is encouraging good behavior and taxing bad behavior. That is what the government should be doing. My real complain is that the Green Shift doesn't go far enough, unlike the Green Party carbon tax.


Give me a Break
said

Ok lets be real. PM Harper is just not the leader of the Cons he is the PRIME MINISTER. He can not and should not be running around saying the sky is falling. For all of you that say he should, you have no understanding of financial markets. A larger part of financial markets is confidence. If the PM were to be negative it would be a disaster.

As well The Cons are clearly going to win. So they are the only ones that will have to impliment their platform. You wanna know why there is no BIG SPENDING VOTE BUYING PROMISES.... because they will actually have to impliment it and they will need to keep their promises. Unlike the free spending/promising parties that will never have to impliment their platforms. It would actaully be fun to watch DION win then watch him backtrack on all his promises.

The PM is doing and saying exactly what he should be. Stop the fear mongering.

PS a friend of mine working in Toronto actally said one of the pressures on the market right now is the fact the Liberals may do well and the market if factoring this in. ie DROPPING.

Stop the lies and be realistic.


RCR from Ontario
said

It amazes me how Stephan Dion has switched from his "Green Platform" that was going over like a lead balloon and has now become the Champion of the Economy.
He was going to tax the life out of us and make it so we couldn't heat our homes and now he is the expert on how we are going to get through this blip in the economy...
Let us know Liberals, what is your real agenda, or should we wait for the next opinion poll to see what you will come up with next.


Bewildered in Toronto
said

By profession, Stephen Harper is an economist. As Prime Minister, debts are being paid; budgets are being balanced and appropriate cuts are being made.

A guy at the grocery store made a great comment: "As an example of people who keep going back to abusive relationships, I give you the supporters of The Liberal Party of Canada."

Wished I'd a-thunk it.


Glen
said

I'm an IT worker that just got layed off but I'm not blaming the PC's for it, but putting Dion in charge scares me a lot. Increased gas taxes will just increase the jobs leaving Canada. I'm with Harper on lower taxes and a good banking system which isn't going to be attacked by the NDP. To stay in power the liberals will need NDP support. Hence we'll end up like Britain with gov't controlled banks, and shut down oil sands development.


Allan
said

If not for the jump in oil prices ( which the gov't has no control over), where would the economy of western Canada be? Probably in the same toilet as Ontario. Vote this government in again and we will see just how bad things will get and how poorly this government will manage.


ED
said

The election has become a contest on who can attack the most viciously. On that front Dion and Layton are winning. There appears to be little of substance coming from the opposition but it is working. In the end we will collectively get who we asked for, not what we wanted in a government. We will need a lot of help if Dion were to win.


Rob NS
said

CTV has about 4 stories leaning way to the left today....I guess the CTV editors are voting Lib....But I am not! Stop the spin, give us honesty! Just the facts would be nice for a change.
Slow and steady in a rocking boat...if you panic you fall out....same with the stocks...
[X] Conservative


Jimmy J J
said

I'll be voting for PM Harper once again. I'm Canadian, NOT American, and I'm not dumb enough to fall into the fear/gloom/panic - which is ALL Mr Dion and Mr Layton have offered.

They preach at us as though Mr Harper caused the world's economic problems, and if we vote for Mr Harper again, then the world is going to end somehow.

I'm not falling for that Rhetoric, and I like the way things have been going for the last two years... except for the fact that the oposition leaders act like teenagers in Question Period, which is no doubt what Mr Harper got sick of, and is likely the reason he's taking his chances, and going for a Majority.

Time for the Oposition leaders to grow up. The polls might indicate falling numbers for the PC's, but they've still got my vote on election day!


Jayson
said

Under Harper, does he really has transparency, or he is really a bully? Harper = knife behind smile. Don't trust him ever!


Corey in Manitoba
said

I don't know if any of you realize, that the stock market is not an indicator of the overall economy. The stock market is going down because the hedge fund groups are pulling there money out because people are cashing in due to panic. If, for example, the Ontario Teachers pension, was to pull out all of there money from the stock exchange, even if the economy was flying, the TSX would drop substancially.

The real indicators of the economy are, jobs reports, how many are lost or created and consumer confidence. If you have the Christmas season come and go, and retail spending is way down, then you are in recession. Not because the TSX is doing down.

The change in polls right now is due to the fact that when the economy is good governments hardly change, and when they are bad, they always change.
It is unfortunate that we will probably see a change to the left, and then we can spend our way out of recession. Oh maybe they will raise taxes to to stimulate the economy.





Hanley
said

I hope the CONS get their backsides kicked....right out of government...and all the flunkies too....

Flaherty
Clement
Ritz
Guergis
Cannon
Baird
Van Loan
Bernier
and all the others...
blah blah

executing the plan ...right
we saw the downturn coming...right


Voters...wake up

Orange and green makes BLUE

Don't make a mistake.

Vote Liberal!!

Get that change that Harper asked for!!



Marcel
said

Mr. Harper, Mr. Flaherty and the rest of the Conservative have not shown any sympathy for Canadians who are going through a hard economic time. They do not deserve to be re-elected as the government on October 14th.


RobO
said

Canada to lead G7 in GDP growth in '09: IMF

Is this expected because of Dions or Laytons platform? No this is expected because our current PM has an understanding (DEGREE IN ECOMONICS)then the other two leaders.

So for all you Liberals and NDP people, explain this to US.


Jim in Ottawa
said

Is it just me or is anyone else seeing this? I have yet to hear the NDP or Lib mention anything of substance about policy or what they will do about the current economic issues? Lots of trashy attacks on Harper but nothing about their own policy platform, beware what you wish for...


A Disappointed Canadian
said

Now this would be a real story if Mr. Dion and Mr. Layton had warned Canadians about economic uncertainty beforehand.


Jay, Ottawa
said

Rob NS said, "CTV has about 4 stories leaning way to the left today....I guess the CTV editors are voting Lib....But I am not! Stop the spin, give us honesty! Just the facts would be nice for a change."

One day they're too Liberal, the next day they're too Conservative. Maybe they are just reporting the facts after all. . .can you actually show where they twisted the facts? Likely not.


R D
said

What else would you expect from Dion & Layton. Some praise for being frugal? Some praise for being fiscally cautious? No, no, let's get out there and scare the hell out of the voters. Layton's still talking about Harper's sweater, so you know how up-to-date he is as to what's going on. maybe Layton & Dion have lots of shares in some fast-food cos, because that's where a lot more Canadians are going to be eating if either of them form a government.


PM
said

Whom are you voting for Rick? Don't forget the $25 billion/year over the next 20 years for the army that Mr. Harper wants.




Pat Canadian!
said

OK, for all of you Liberal supporters - other than increasing taxes - what is the Liberal plan? All that I see is the plan to miscommunicate, tell half truths, and attack - that stimulates possitive growth and economic stability - not!

Harper has been working with all the parties for the last couple of years to build a better Canada and for the most part they have followed him... I think that makes him the best leader!


Candace
said

What I want to know is, why does Harper ever defend himself when Dion and Layton attack him!!! Stop being a doormat Stephen - I know you are a professional, level headed, above water leader - and for that you have my vote, but please stand up for yourself against the fear mongering and blatant emotional attacks for votes!






Greg in Cambridge
said

Dion is "out of touch" with his mind.
Who ever would vote liberal is out of touch with reality.


E.T. Cox
said

Stephen Harper`s comment :This is the time to buy up stocks???????Talk about the rich getting richer, and the poor getting poorer....this is right up there with Marie Antoinette`s famous quote "They have no bread? why don`t they eat cake?"


Mo Chaudhury
said

It is to be noted that PM Harper's root is in Preston Manning's Reform Party and today's Conservative Party has barely any resemblance to the Progressive Conservatives.

Reform Party grew popular in the West as a protest movement against Toronto and East ward. The party is also known to be deeply rooted in fundamentalist religious beliefs such as those of Rev Jerry Falwell in the USA.

While PM Harper and his party need to be heard like others, I am not convinced about the truthfulness of their promises and statements. It remains to be seen whether PM Harper is a genuine well-wisher of Canada at large or is pursuing the Reform Party platform in the guise of Conservative Party.


Scott
said

Dear Corey in Manitoba,
Thanks for the Economics 101. But in case you haven't noticed, it is not just the markets that are down: in every major economic centre around the world banks are in serious trouble and are being bailed out by governments. The U.S. is just the biggest example. Moreover, credit has dried both between banks between banks and individual borrowers.

The economy needs credit to run. Without credit, many businesses will fail because they meet operating expenses; others will not be able to expand their business, conduct research and development, build new factories. Without credit, consumers spend less and buy fewer things, which in turn will hurt businesses.

All these things mean less money changing hands and above all, fewer jobs or lost jobs. Ontario alone has lost 100,000 manufacturing jobs.

All of these things mean a recession.

No-one has said Harper caused the economic turmoil -- that is just silly. What the Libs and NDP are saying -- rightly -- is that he is not taking it seriously enough and does not have an adequate plan for addressing it.

If he did have a superb plan, why did he call an election now, not 6 months or 12 months from now, as his own legislation requires him to?


Hoss
said

Imagine, I have just finsihed reading the conservative platform and guess what is there??? Fighting internet spams ....hehehehehehe

what a miserable party who makes internet spams a centerpeice of his election platform!!!!!!


Chris Curry
said

Dion did not speak about the economic crisis all throught the summer or even at the beginning of the campaign. His advisors had to tell him "Drop the Green Shift and get with the economy, stupid." Then he comes up with a last ditch effort to look like he's doing something. Hold 30 days of meetings with experts. Well Harper has been meeting with experts all along and had implemented his plan well over a year ago. Dion has the gall to call him unprepared.

This man is so clued out.


penny
said

Who is out of touch when it comes to the economy.Dion and Layton are.All they do is[attack attack and attack some more.May the best person win this election.Go Harper GO.


Kurt
said

I watched the live feeds from different oppositions closely and thus far, I have been asked to change the channel because no one in my household doesn't want to watch the ridicule anymore.

I have to say that what I have seen so far from opposition is a chance to get into Prime Ministers chair. Yet, no one really realizes what our PM is doing. Focused on the issue at stake, responsibly trying to calm our nation and explain that they are doing something "right now!" to ease the worries Canadians have at the moment. Being a leader he is, proffesionaly addressing the public and informing that the government is helping out the system to make sure a disaster does not happen. Maybe the opposition should stop acting and proposing new plans/taxes, and start helping out our economy. So far all I have seen is Mr. Harper doing his job as a Prime Minister and opposition just wasting their time. Maybe the oppostion should act more responsible as minority and help out in order to solve these problems and stop pointing fingers toward our Prime Minister. Show some respect to our leader as I am sure you would not want the same.

I have to say a good job to Mr. Harper for keeping a focus on issues at stake and not pointing fingers like the rest.


Jerrold
said

Harper and his government have performed well as a minority government. Far better than previous majority governments have performed. It is pleasant to not be embarrassed by one's leadership for a change.
It is amazing that some voters actually believe the frenzied negative bleeting of no plan Dion and (his) band of merry men. Win, loose or draw Dion will be eaten by his Cronies.
As for Layton he of course is free to blather away saying anything no matter how unrealistic knowing he will never get to actually do anything except whine about how bad everybody else is. Could you actually imagine what our economy would do if he were to be in charge of anything? The Greens lets face it, a meaningless protest vote. Duceppe-self preservation.



wilson
said

If I vote for Layton, I will ask myself if I want Communism. If yes, I better live in China instead.

If I vote for Dion, I can foresee the cost of living will increase because of the Greenshift. All the carbon tax will transfer to consumers at the end.

I vote for Harper because he has done a good job in the past 2.5 years. I like to 2% GST cut especially.


Softwear
said

Do people think that if they vote Conservative they will be wealthier??
Your taxes may be lower, but all of a sudden certain things which are now free/subsized will cost money...lots of money!
Can you afford the true cost of university??
Can you afford to pay thousands and thousands of dollars each year for healthcare?? Amazing! I want your job!
There are thousands and thousands of people in the States who CANNOT afford health insurance. How confident are you that you won't be one of them?
Conservatives will privatize health care. When profits are involved, there is a financial incentive to give lower quality healthcare.
People who rail against government spending truly amaze me. They are obviously against the things the government should spend money on: healthcare, education, transportation, employment insurance.
Help me to understand...the government spending money on this stuff is...bad?
This is the underlying theory of taxation: people with more money are taxed more and people with less money are taxed less. Then that tax money is used to help people get educated, stay healthy, and go to work.
Do we live in a time where people still moralize over poverty??
Most of us don't have that much money, people. Most of us live paycheque to paycheque. Do you have a lot of savings? Tough times happen. To everyone. It's not a question of moral integrity or "hard work."
Are you rich enough to afford Harper?


Tim
said

Softwear asks (rhetorically) do we really think we will be richer with Harper as PM. While admittedly its not clear that we will be richer we can all be sure that under a Liberal, Green or NDP government we will all clearly be poorer.


JFJ
said

Media are giving Dion and Layton a free ride and just carrying the opposition's insulting personal attacks.

I guess it's easier than doing their own analyses.


CE
said

What is Dion's plan???? put carbon taxes in place to significantly raise gas prices for you at the pump....single out Alberta and crush its economy and thus crush the Canadian economy so that Ontario and Quebec will fell all warm and fuzzy inside....spend spend spend so that the Liberal party will take care of you because we all know that you as an adult cannot take care of yourself oh and telling you that his spend spend spend approach will not cost you a thing....and to top it all off tries to blame the conservatives for the economy when everyone should know that it is because of what is happening in the US as our economy is 100% linked to theirs....but the most scary part is that people in this country lap Dion's dribble up...Canadians are the most weak-minded electorate in the world!!!!!


Ahh - the CPC HQ is back online
said


Interesting how there was a sudden onslaught in pro-Harper postings all of a sudden - what happened was there an outage at the multi-million dollar Conservative Propaganda Centre? Or were you all stuck in a "desperation" campaign meeting?




bn
said

If Dion gets in this country is heading not for a recession but an all out depression....the thought of the Liberals getting in is SCARY!!!!!!!


Prof. Pye Chartt
said

To "Softwear":

While, indeed, the government has a defined and limited role in many aspects of our collective welfare, it is NOT the government's job to be our principal caregiver (ie. nanny or babysitter), cradle to grave.

Furthermore, contrary to your assertion, the "underlying theory of taxation" is NOT to punish financially successful people by taxing them at a higher rate than less financially successful people. This is an illogical political progression that we're still stuck with. (If you tax both people at the same percentage rate, the greater earner still pays more!)

You're merely spouting basic Socialism, a proven failure designed simply to redistribute the wealth of individuals created by capitalist efforts. You're advocating a parasitic system that eventually bankrupts itself.

Taxation is a mechanism by which the government collects money to do IMPORTANT things for the collective benefit of citizens; it is not a tool for funding EVERY selfish whim of the "takers" in society.

Don't worry; you're not alone in your misguided thinking. The Liberals and NDP only exist because of this mentality.


JR
said

So let me get this straight. Consertvative support has dropped to 31% but it appears to me that the majority of the posted comments appear to support the conservatives.
I know when I see a 1 800 # calling I sure as heck don't answer the phone. nough said!


Bob
said

The relationship between eastern voters and the Liberal part bring to mind an old proverb - " As a dog returns to it's vomit, so a fool returns to his foley."
If the Libs are once again succesful with the fear mongering which has always been their biggest election tool, then Liz May will have been right about one thing - Canadians are indeed stupid! ( gee, no one seemed to talk too much about that. Can only imagine the outrage if it had been said by a Conservative!)
BTW, I am from Ontario.


ELLIOT
said

Have we forgotten our past experiences with the Liberal government?
PM Chretien promised to remove the GST. Did he? Paul Martin as Finance Minister knew nothing about any Sponsorship Program wrong-doings, as his Liberals were passing around brown paper bags filled with cash. He did however know how to register his Canada Steamship Lines company off-shore, in order to avoid high Canadian taxes levied by guess who? Our relations with the U.S were at an all-time low, with Liberals publicly calling Pres. Bush and other Americans morons and bastards.

As soon as PM Harper came to office he mended relations with the U.S and we saw an immediate 80% settlement of the long awaited lumber dispute. He promised a 2% reduction on the GST, lower DAS and delivered both.

A new Liberal carbon tax and a potential return to a 7% GST will not stimulate the Canadian economy. I much prefer the Tory approach. Will the next PM be Dion or Harper? It's a no-brainer.


EricB
said

Headline should read:

"Harper out of touch with economy. Layton out of touch with reality."

Give me a break, Jack. The last thing we need to do right now is raise taxes/kill tax cuts and make already nervous companies petrified and start laying off even more people.


L.A.
said

I can not believe the scatterbrains on the "left". Here we have Canada in grand financial shape, taking a larger and new role on the world stage. The IMF says Canada will lead the global economy next year. The US and the other G8 countries are proud of Canada and how the Conservative government has taken steps well ahead of time to spare Canadians from financial carnage! Folks you are crying in your beer for nothing. Mr. Harper and the Conservatives have already spared you great financial woe and distress. The stock markets operate separately from governments. Canada must be a bigger player on the world stage and I can think of no finer man to represent this great country of ours during the greatest financial challenge to test the world in at least 25 years. Thank you.



Don from down on the farm
said

I guess when you have no plan, and when you have nothing to offer, you attack the conservatives. Dion said during his interview this evening, "I am not saying I would do anything different, we just want to make sure we are doing everything we can". But for him this means 30 days of meetings to decide what that is... and probably exactly what the conservatives are doing now. He is not a leader. He needs help.


GC
said

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery."

Winston Churchill


Co Co Luongo
said

We don't need to worry about Danny William's ABC Campaign impacting Harper and the Conservatives. Listening to the opinions of Average Joe Albertan, I've come to realize there is an active ABC Campaign pro Conservative - Albertans Blindly Choose. The NEP was so 30 yrs ago. Get over it.


Jim from Halifax
said

If Dion should win this thing, everyone on Bay Street should do things:
1)Hide
2)Donate every dime they can to Ignatieff. That way, the upcoming Liberal leadership feud (and of course, there will be one no matter what the result on Tuesday is) will boil over so bad that Blair/Brown and Chretien/Martin leadership feuds will look like jokes. Canadian politics can be saved much tension on a natonal stage if Dion does not become PM.
So, Canada, do you really want a PM who will carry with him an identity scandal similar to the Impeachment of Bill Clinton, combined with the lack of action of George W.?


Tom from montreal
said

@rick

nice summary of in your eyes, but reality is

Conservatives = massive tax cuts for you rich folks in the west, and nothing for us in the east.

lets see how you folks fair with the price of oil under 90$ , good luck with mr harper's policies



Geoff
said

If Dion is so in tune with the economy then why is there no mention of the US problems in his platform of how he would protect Canada from it. It he didn't know about it he should have.

Liberals and the economy.

When the Liberals left power 2.5 years ago the federal debt was 52 BILLION higher than when Chretien first took office.

The highest percent increase in the federal debt (40.5% in a single year) belongs to Liberal Prime Minister Pierre Trudeau in 1978.

These figures are from the Statistics Canada web site.

Canada you can vote from fear again or you can vote informed.


Tom from montreal
said

@LA

i think u live in la la land, no pun intended.

it was becasue of the liberals which gave the harper governments a nice surplus. give any government a surplus and they can do good cut taxes etc etc

AS long as price of oil remains high, we have and will have 2 economic realities in the country, west vs east. tax breaks only help those who are making money (west) and harper has done NOTHING to redistribute some of that tax revenue to the east.

He is a joke, he took a 9 billion surplus, gave it away and now its down to 2 billion, and some of u rightest make him out to be a genuis!!!


Ken Lawson
said

I read the PDF version of the Conservative Platform, I love it, especially the promise to give BC, Alberta and Ontario their rightful number of the seats in the House of Commons, Why didn't the Liberals offer this, the do not want BC to have more Seats than Quebec that is why. 2. The second getting tough with unscruplous immigration consultants, the only problem their all in China of course of the worst offenders has a office near Burrard & Georgia in Vancouver. Where are the investigative reporters when you need them. Oh I'm Voting Conservative. Oh the PDF version is colorful and easy for Canadians to understand, but where are the NDP and Liberal PDF versions, I know they lost them.


Marg, Richmond
said

I find it really hard to believe that the Ontario poll shows the Liberals getting close to the Conservatives. HAVEN'T YOU PEOPLE HAD ENOUGH!!!!!!!Bob Rae included. How soon they forget!!!Hopefully those of you clinging on to the Liberal mentality will wake up on Oct 14 and realize that it is Mr Harper & the conservatives that will help us through this GLOBAL CRISIS (not caused by him, by the way), But if you insist on listening to Henny-penny & goosey -lucy, Dion & Layton (the sky is falling, the sky is falling)then I hope you are prepared for the high taxes and turmoil ahead. I also hope that the bank that manages my RRSP takes advantage of the bargains that will be had in the stock market, and I'm also sure that Layton & Dion hope their bank will too.


Bob in NB
said

What is wrong with this country!!! More specifically the people in this country and how they believe any BS that comes out of Layton's or Dion's mouth. Layton would definately do his best to make Canada experience the worst Depression of all time, and frankly Dion would not be far behind. Layton would give homeless people mansions and make regular people/middle class/rich people go live on the streets. Dion just wants to increase tax, (steal even more money from people) hence why he is bringing in a new Tax. ....

Jerry O'Connor
said

As all early indications (inspite of doom & gloom for Canada by smokin Jack & blabbin Dion) point to another Conservative minority government in Ottawa, this would lead me to conclude this factual theory on the matter of this election.

We all know that any political party aspires to achieve a "majority" government (ultimate prize) but if a minority government is the result then that is what must be accepted by that elected party.

However this probable "re-election" of Stephen Harper and his Conservative government is rather somewhat unique and simply cannot be accepted as "just" another minority government win.

In fact what Stephen Harper will have achieved is the confidence, approval and reassurance by Canadians of his previous tenure as prime minister of Canada.

This in fact will be looked upon as a great achievement and not to be shrugged off as a small "matter of fact" by any means of the imagination.

This up coming re-election of Stephen Harper and his Conservative government will in fact be construde as a "vote of confidence" by Canadians and right so.

That will leave the gutless threats of Jack, Dion and Gilles empty and meaningless in the next session of parliament. These pretenders pretending to be leaders will now be silenced... for the Canadian people will have spoken by way of their "VOTE OF CONFIDENCE" having been once again given to Stephen Harper in this election.

No doubt the losers (opposition) will spin their tales but try as they might.... there can be no other conclusions to be had from this re-election of Stephen Harper and the Conservative Party of Canada.




Very concerned Canadian;
said

I blame the media for conservatives being loosing support. Seams like the media are very happy. They will be responsible for the mass that they putting the country. It is very sad that the media is massing up the government and Canada situation in economy....

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