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Date: Wed. Oct. 8 2008 9:47 PM ET
With less than a week until election day and polls showing the race tightening, Stephane Dion delivered a attack on Stephen Harper's leadership -- calling him out of touch with ordinary Canadians in the face of an economic crisis.
Harper is "totally out of touch with reality," Dion said. "He doesn't understand the impact of this economic turmoil of Canadians' daily lives.
"He's singing that same old song, 'Don't worry, be happy.'"
Dion spoke to the same Toronto business audience Wednesday where Harper revealed the Conservative election platform a day earlier and said that the plunging stock market offered "buying opportunities."
The Liberal leader delivered a speech laden on two principles -- that he understood Canadians' fears about their jobs and savings and that his party has a better economic record.
Dion was joined onstage by former finance ministers Ralph Goodale and Paul Martin. It was under Martin's guidance that the Jean Chretien government cut the massive deficits left by Conservative Brian Mulroney.
NDP Leader Jack Layton also attacked Harper along the same lines Dion did.
"Most Canadians are extremely concerned, and yet he's trying to suggest that going out and gambling some of your money is the right strategy," Layton said in Edmonton Wednesday morning.
"I think Canadians are looking for a government that's going to take this issue more seriously than that, and not be so cavalier or so casual."
Harper brushed aside his opponents' attacks in response, saying that Conservative economic proposals are "modest" and "realistic."
He defended his "buying opportunities" comment, saying it was his way of keeping his head.
"The prime minister doesn't join in a wave of stock-market panic and pessimism around the world," Harper said. "What the prime minister does is make sure that we have a long-term plan, that we're acting on it, and that we're identifying good, long-term investments for the Canadian economy."
The Tory leader also flipped the script on Layton and Dion, saying that they were the leaders who were out of touch, with their "risky schemes" to drive away jobs and increase taxes.
Harper credited Conservative initiatives, such as ridding the country 40-year mortgages, as reasons for why Canada will not suffer the same economic fate as the United States.
Conservatives losing support
A number of polls show that the Conservatives are bleeding support across the country, a trend that corresponds with the sputtering economy and wild drops in the stock markets.
The latest Canadian Press Harris-Decima poll gave the Tories 31 per cent support across Canada, just four percentage points above the resurgent Liberals.
The NDP are running in third at 20 per cent support.
"There's no question, it's been a tough week." Conservative strategist Tim Powers told CTV Newsnet Wednesday of the recent polling.
Until recently, the polls had the Tories firmly in front, edging towards a majority. But the latest polls show that Dion, once thought to be only in the running for opposition minister, is gaining.
On Wednesday, Dion told reporters that he expects to become prime minister and has a transition team in place for a change in government.
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I applaud the budget, even though Health Care and education may stay unscathed. Sadly this cannot last and I worry to later this year where cuts will become enviable. If anything, this provides the Wildrose Alliance plenty of ammo when an election is called.







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Dave
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Harper is an opportunistic control freak. Let's not forget that the ONLY reason he called the elections at this time despite his own fixed election date law was because he thought that he could fool the people into giving him a majority. Well I got news for you Harper...on October 14, 2008 you will indeed get a majority "government" made up of yourself, your wife and your two kids. Go back home and go rule them with your autocratic style of governance. Canadians are smarter than you think!
Lowell
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Mark
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Rick
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Liberals - 50+ billion in election promises = Higher taxes, wasteful spending.
NDP - 50+ billion in election promises = Higher taxes, wasteful social programs.
Conservatives - 6 billion in election promises = Lower taxes, less government intrusion.
Easy choice - I know who I'm voting for.
Gord in Regina Sask
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Just as I thought...nothing much.
JohnK
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Dd
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What does he have to hide? He campaigned in 06 on a platform of openness and accountability and he has been anything but.
He fooled me once. Not again.
ABC
Lee Tanner
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David
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BB in B.C.
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Glo from Ottawa
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John from Fredericton.
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Instead he's struggling to hang on to power.
He may get another minority, but it could be a weaker one, in which he will not accept.
Bob
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Richard in Toronto
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Dayton
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J. Smith
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Steve in Aylmer
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Enjoy the next week as Prime Minister because even if you win your minority, your caucus will ask for your resignation as their leader. Because if you can`t win a majority with Stephan Dion as Liberal leader, whatta gonna do when they replace Dion with a more charasmatic leader.
The problem was, and still is, too many didn`t trusted him and he couldn`t get past that point.
Rationale Voice
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Strategically Challenged Conservatives
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Anyone else here notice that we haven't had a "Strategic Counsel" Poll in the last week trying to sway voters into choosing Harper ever since every other poll firm has shown that the Conservatives are starting to bleed support?
They tried hard last election too.
Not even an update on their own website since Sept. 21. - interesting. I guess the Nanos polls are more indicative of what's going on out there.
Roger
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We are Not stupid, we are not going voting for you , now we know what kind of leader you are
Joe Smith
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If the Liberals would move back to the centre i might vote for them but as long as they want to tax me and tell me how to live, well they won't get my vote.
As for some people that say Harper won't keep his word, Wake up people all of them are Politicans, they are all less than honest opportunists. And so far PM Harper has done a good job.
Lets hope that on Oct 14 we get a Goverment that we need, not one we deserve.
PM Harper you have my vote.
Alberta Believer
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Dave, I like hearing this jab from you left-wingers and its so evident as in what Dion lacks, leadership. When you are the head of an organization you wear its successes as well as its failures therefore you are to take the front position in that organization.
As an effective leader you can delegate only so much before your sheip ends up being captained by the most forceful and competent individual to whom you have delegated away all of your responsibilities.
You know as a former army officer, I always knew that we as a class of Canadians preferred the Conservatives to the Liberals or NDP on policy issues, however I must say that the take charge leadership style exhibited by most Conservative leaders attracted alot of us to the Tory side in contrast to the dithering limp wristed styles exhinited by most NDP and Grit leaders.
Pathetic and spineless behaviour has become too common place in Canadian society and leadering the charge in that direction are the Liberals and their socialist allies the NDP. Whether its political correctness, human rights tribunals, social engineering, a policy of flight from the challenging military conflicts abroad or from prosecuting criminals and terrorists here at home, you lefties will not be allowed to further emasculate our nation.
Lee Tanner
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I hope you are all smart enough to see what Dion is doing. In the last leg of the race, he's grasping at straws and attacking his opponent in any which way he can, whether it be logical or fear mongering. This recent speech, as per this article, clearly shows Dion scrambling and desperately trying to appeal to your emotional side.... "oh no! Harper doesn't care about us". Give your head a shake - before you buy into Dion, and Layton's, fear mongering last minute ditch attempt to sway your vote. Take note.... he (Dion) says nothing about his approach on Canada's economic standing.... it's only attack! attack! attack! Again... please, don't buy into that emotional vote buying.
wreck76
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Reece
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tim
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Dan
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Please stop yelling at me. Please...
And BTW, "Don't worry, be happy." Isn't that someone else's speech? Oh wait a minute, that is a song owned by somebody else, you are just "using" it! I get it... Wait a minute, do you have permission to use the song's words? This could be a you stomping on somebody's rights here. Kind of like the "Shift" you know the Green? Owned by a legal company, "borrowed" by you, with out their permission.
Connie
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John
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Paul in BC
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It would appear Harper is out of touch with the rest of us. Dion realizes, as do all leaders around the world, that this is a global economic crisis and each leader from around the world is putting plans into action to help its people.
As they said this week, Canada's leading bankers and business people know Canada is in a recession. When Harper was at the Canadian Club he still refused to acknowledge what the rest of the world knows, we are in a worsening recession. When you are in denial you have nothing to present except glossy booklets with Harper's photograph on every second page.
I prefer the intelligence and detailed plans of Mr. Dion. He has been polite, steady and straightforward with ordinary Canadians. I like Dion's massive income tax cuts, his protection plans for our savings, pensions and investments and a revenue neutral pollution tax - it's not a risky scheme as Harper suggests but forwarding looking towards a modern, clean economy.
As for Flaherty and Harper taking credit for Canada's strong banking system; they are taking credit for the small "l" liberal philosophy in Canada that made Canada's banking system as good as it gets around the world. It was the Liberal Party that resisted deregulating the banks like they did under George W. Bush and his conservative Republicans in the USA which started the economic mess in the USA and spread world wide.
Khloe
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BBL
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Canada to lead G7 in GDP growth in '09: says IMF on
Wednesday, October 8, 2008
"Canada will lead the other G7 countries in economic growth in 2009, a muted honour considering that the global economy should slow markedly, according to a new IMF study released Wednesday.
The International Monetary Fund said this country should see economic growth in the range of 1.2 per cent next year, less than half of what Canda experienced in 2007, but the best performance among Japan, the United States, Italy, France, Germany and the United Kingdom."
Full articles on various news sites
Danny Dinosaur
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Too bad you didn't think of it Mr. Harper. It is actually a pretty good right wing policy.
That's what happens when you are too busy fighting everything and trying to censor people. Sometimes you miss the obvious.
Layton B in Moncton NB
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If the Leader won't even admit there is a problem, then yea, he's out of touch. Dion has been saying all along that there is a serious problem with the economy and has shown a plan to cope with it. Harper IS in denial. How can all these people say "Oh the Conservatives and Harper are the only ones who can lead us through this" when Harper and the Conservatives won't even admit there is a problem. This is a man who won't take unscripted questions, this is a man who makes public announcements that are not open to the public. His platform is a conglomeration of what the polls say and the best ideas from the other parties. That's not leadership, that's governance by opinion polls. He has run a super secretive government after running on openness and accountability, but hasn't seemed to mention that in THIS campaign. During this trying time, we cannot afford Harper. We need someone who will speak frankly to Canadians and Harper isn't. I had been on the fence, but now Dion HAS my vote.
Edb
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Wow, talk about out of touch and ARROGANT. It's the ol' we're the only party allowed to govern gag. Well, what can I say...if Canadians fall for this, then they deserve what they get. The transition team can negotiate with the new independent states of the west for oil and wheat.
Dayton
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Will
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Go Steve Go.....!!!!!
Steve from gloucester
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seenith
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Jorja
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James Eh!
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First, CMHC backed 40/0 mortgages were brought in as a conservative policy by his Finance Minister Jim Flaherty.
Second, only after the housing crisis started did the conservatives change policy ending 40/0 mortgages.
Stephen Harper's contention that conservative polices have helped our banks maybe true. But those policies were the conservative policies of the best finance minister the PC's or CPC's never had, Liberal Finance Minister Paul Martin!
The policies of this conservative government, namely 40/0, have not helped on little bit.
Worried
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Craig in BC
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wes
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I guess Dion hasnt heard about the dislike of his proposed Carbon Tax, or the fact that its the WORLD Economy, and not the Canadian economy that is tettering on bankrupcy.
Bob NS
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Winnipeg
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RobO
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You have to get over the fact that the ecomony is going south, so is the rest of the world.
Hard to beleive that ONE MAN (PM) can cause all the problems. Crap people grow up and be well informed before you put your feet (yes both)in your mouth.
Maybe we should go and look at the past Liberal party. They seem want to take money from the tax payers and give it to the social programs that they support, yet people don't understand that the Liberals did this before and the Prov ended up eating the cost changes to there programs.
So if you want a socialist state the takes you from the birth to death, then vote the Liberals or NDP in. But if you want a government that is willing to stand up to unneeded social programs (ARTS)then Mr. Harper has my vote.
Now, people remember that the deficit came from the Liberals!
Liberals promised to cancel the GST, that never happened!
They cut the deficit by robbing pension funds! Mine was one of them!
So for all you people that want to have the government controlling you money and lives - vote Liberal.
barry - ontario.
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Harper is an economist folks, not a lawyer like liberal leaders usually are, AN ECONOMIST. Something tells me he might know A BIT about the economy.
Patricia
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Erich
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Colin
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Jimbo
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Melanie
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I don't like Harper much either.But the thought of Bob Rae as finance minister is downright scary.Wake up Ontario.Have you forgotten those days already?? Ujall Dosanjh gave an equally impressive performance here in BC.
Anyone who votes for parties advocating higher taxes and more debt for Canada,when the cause of this crisis is so blatantly obvious,should be charged with treason.
Pam in Waterloo
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And Harper--a trained Economist who has kept our country stable in spite of global economic uncertainty--is "out of touch??"
NOT!
Harper gets it. Dion doesn't. Apparently 2/3 of Canadians are dumb enough to believe the Liberals and NDP because they offer quick easy answers that panicky people want to hear.
And the geek who tells the truth will get voted out.
In a year or less, those who put Dion in will regret their decision and we will end up back at the polls.
History will treat Harper very well, I think. Even if the Canadian people do not.
There is still time to change your minds people. Look around the world at western nations and ask who is doing best in spite of the turmoil. Answer: Canada.
Harper is our best choice to weather this storm and remain stable. Please Canada: don't blow it!
MN
said
Keep it up and we will have a country in the toilet and I can say to all those idiots, I told you so !!
Greg in the Hammer
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They are spreading fear and panic to curry votes. Its shameful and cheap and is the very thing they accuse the PM of.
Their policies will devastate the economy here.
If Dion gets even a minority then Canadians will get the government they deserve. Disaster.
evje from Barrie
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HKP in Vancouver
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Peter
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Is Dion still running for prime minister? If he won, I'd consider moving to Australia.
CW
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Larry NL
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And speaking of Paul Martin, how come the CTV news hasn't been pursuing his latest book that tells how Mr. Chretien screwed up his chance to win the last election?
james from Vancouver
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A vote for the NDP, CPC, Bloc, Greens = recipe for a Conservative majority.
Please be vote wise and consider voting for Dion. The only principled, steady leader with a plan.
Doug in NB
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Laureen
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chuck from Wainwright
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Brian
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A Real IT Manager from Calgary
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Linda
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Come on people does this make sense to you?
I would advise everybody to look at their financial situation and seriously ask themselves can they afford a Liberal or an NDP government?
So you don't like Mr. Harper personally, but who cares. Political leaders are generaly not liked and are not suppose to give us warm fuzzy feelings. Many of us hate our boss, but yet we still go to work for them, because they provide a means for us to live.
Wake up Canada! Can you really afford more taxes. People in Ontario remember the health tax? Do you want to add another tax (carbon tax) to your earnings.
Ash
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I guess he would be a good stock broker rather than a PM
Diane M.
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Dion and Layton are probably having a big laugh over how easy it is to sway the voting public.
Rob
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Rob
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Good Luck Stevie,
Loyal NL PC
Sieg, Winnipeg
said
I am sorry to notice that most comments against Harper seem to be motivated by plain personal hatred.
Wayne Whig
said
Which `more charismatic' leader is this?
Ignatieff? Rae?
Martha Hall Findlay?
Stay tuned
Sean
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Wally in Black Point, NS
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Thank Heavens for Harper.
Keith
said
here and bite.Is that all this guy can say:
"totally out of touch with reality"
No way in hell will I ever vote for his backward plans..
people are nuts to vote him in.Why spend money you DON'T have.Where are the logistics???
Steve the Pundit
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Liberals are not good "economic stewards"; they will go whatever way the wind blows in order to get elected.
By the way, anybody heard Dion talk about "Green Shift" lately? Where's your principled leadership now? Gone with the wind...
KJ from Kingston Ontaio
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Victor Leutschaft
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Talk about the Conservatives being out of touch with the economy! Just today Finance Minister Jim Flaherty said, "We have a competitive banking system", when asked about the big banks passing the Bank of Canada interest rate cuts to consumers. Isn't it amazing that ALL the big banks passed only half the rate cut to customers. Where's the competition, Jim?
Mitch in MB
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Shannon
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I have lived in Ontario my entire life (40 yrs) and I am disgusted with the voting public here. I'm sure Mr. Dion is a nice man, but he should not be running our country. Period.
JFJ
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Canada - just about the only country whose government banned 100% financing of house purchases. The Left's poster boy, Bill Clinton, made 100% mortgage possible in the US and substantially started the current mess.
Dion has a plan. He's planning to develop a plan to get others to develop his plan. He hasn't got a clue what should be in it. Harper has been acting on his plan. That's the reason our banks are rock solid.
Sure some in businesses that export to the US will inevitably lose jobs. But imagine how many more jobs would be lost when carbon taxes increase export prices!!!!
RBC is agreeing with the approach being taken by Harper.
Kenji
said
Let's continue to pay down our debt, so we won't follow the path of united states.
Keep in mind, Bush issued TAX Rebate trying to stimulate economy, but did it work?
Big D
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A vote for Dion is a vote for massive unemployment and high taxes. The more unemployed the higher the taxes! This guys green shift scheme will be far worse than the NEP!
A vote for Layton is also a vote for high taxes and high unemployment. This guy will tax companies all the way to China where there is no greedy Unions jacking up the price of everything.
A vote for MAy is also a vote for high taxes and new scheme tring to fix Canada's minimal world carbon foot print. You can't reduce it much before we can no longer afford anything.
A vote for the Bloc is a vote for your selfish selves. People who vote for this party do not care about CANADA as a whole!
That leaves us with Harper, and the Conservatives who have tried to fix years of miss management and stealing (the party who did this know who they are) and were constanly block by self serving Canada wreakers!
People stated that if the Conservatives erver got into power that they would have troops goos steppping down main street. Never happened. But will if you DON'T let the Harper Canservatives have a try at really running this country
Larry NL
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Enough is Enough People....
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Ryan P.
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r g nielsen
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Gary Slow from Ottawa
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Ultimately it is encouraging good behavior and taxing bad behavior. That is what the government should be doing. My real complain is that the Green Shift doesn't go far enough, unlike the Green Party carbon tax.
Give me a Break
said
As well The Cons are clearly going to win. So they are the only ones that will have to impliment their platform. You wanna know why there is no BIG SPENDING VOTE BUYING PROMISES.... because they will actually have to impliment it and they will need to keep their promises. Unlike the free spending/promising parties that will never have to impliment their platforms. It would actaully be fun to watch DION win then watch him backtrack on all his promises.
The PM is doing and saying exactly what he should be. Stop the fear mongering.
PS a friend of mine working in Toronto actally said one of the pressures on the market right now is the fact the Liberals may do well and the market if factoring this in. ie DROPPING.
Stop the lies and be realistic.
RCR from Ontario
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He was going to tax the life out of us and make it so we couldn't heat our homes and now he is the expert on how we are going to get through this blip in the economy...
Let us know Liberals, what is your real agenda, or should we wait for the next opinion poll to see what you will come up with next.
Bewildered in Toronto
said
A guy at the grocery store made a great comment: "As an example of people who keep going back to abusive relationships, I give you the supporters of The Liberal Party of Canada."
Wished I'd a-thunk it.
Glen
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Allan
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ED
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Rob NS
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Slow and steady in a rocking boat...if you panic you fall out....same with the stocks...
[X] Conservative
Jimmy J J
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They preach at us as though Mr Harper caused the world's economic problems, and if we vote for Mr Harper again, then the world is going to end somehow.
I'm not falling for that Rhetoric, and I like the way things have been going for the last two years... except for the fact that the oposition leaders act like teenagers in Question Period, which is no doubt what Mr Harper got sick of, and is likely the reason he's taking his chances, and going for a Majority.
Time for the Oposition leaders to grow up. The polls might indicate falling numbers for the PC's, but they've still got my vote on election day!
Jayson
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Corey in Manitoba
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The real indicators of the economy are, jobs reports, how many are lost or created and consumer confidence. If you have the Christmas season come and go, and retail spending is way down, then you are in recession. Not because the TSX is doing down.
The change in polls right now is due to the fact that when the economy is good governments hardly change, and when they are bad, they always change.
It is unfortunate that we will probably see a change to the left, and then we can spend our way out of recession. Oh maybe they will raise taxes to to stimulate the economy.
Hanley
said
Flaherty
Clement
Ritz
Guergis
Cannon
Baird
Van Loan
Bernier
and all the others...
blah blah
executing the plan ...right
we saw the downturn coming...right
Voters...wake up
Orange and green makes BLUE
Don't make a mistake.
Vote Liberal!!
Get that change that Harper asked for!!
Marcel
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RobO
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Is this expected because of Dions or Laytons platform? No this is expected because our current PM has an understanding (DEGREE IN ECOMONICS)then the other two leaders.
So for all you Liberals and NDP people, explain this to US.
Jim in Ottawa
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A Disappointed Canadian
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Jay, Ottawa
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One day they're too Liberal, the next day they're too Conservative. Maybe they are just reporting the facts after all. . .can you actually show where they twisted the facts? Likely not.
R D
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PM
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Pat Canadian!
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Harper has been working with all the parties for the last couple of years to build a better Canada and for the most part they have followed him... I think that makes him the best leader!
Candace
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Greg in Cambridge
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Who ever would vote liberal is out of touch with reality.
E.T. Cox
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Mo Chaudhury
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Reform Party grew popular in the West as a protest movement against Toronto and East ward. The party is also known to be deeply rooted in fundamentalist religious beliefs such as those of Rev Jerry Falwell in the USA.
While PM Harper and his party need to be heard like others, I am not convinced about the truthfulness of their promises and statements. It remains to be seen whether PM Harper is a genuine well-wisher of Canada at large or is pursuing the Reform Party platform in the guise of Conservative Party.
Scott
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Thanks for the Economics 101. But in case you haven't noticed, it is not just the markets that are down: in every major economic centre around the world banks are in serious trouble and are being bailed out by governments. The U.S. is just the biggest example. Moreover, credit has dried both between banks between banks and individual borrowers.
The economy needs credit to run. Without credit, many businesses will fail because they meet operating expenses; others will not be able to expand their business, conduct research and development, build new factories. Without credit, consumers spend less and buy fewer things, which in turn will hurt businesses.
All these things mean less money changing hands and above all, fewer jobs or lost jobs. Ontario alone has lost 100,000 manufacturing jobs.
All of these things mean a recession.
No-one has said Harper caused the economic turmoil -- that is just silly. What the Libs and NDP are saying -- rightly -- is that he is not taking it seriously enough and does not have an adequate plan for addressing it.
If he did have a superb plan, why did he call an election now, not 6 months or 12 months from now, as his own legislation requires him to?
Hoss
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what a miserable party who makes internet spams a centerpeice of his election platform!!!!!!
Chris Curry
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This man is so clued out.
penny
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Kurt
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I have to say that what I have seen so far from opposition is a chance to get into Prime Ministers chair. Yet, no one really realizes what our PM is doing. Focused on the issue at stake, responsibly trying to calm our nation and explain that they are doing something "right now!" to ease the worries Canadians have at the moment. Being a leader he is, proffesionaly addressing the public and informing that the government is helping out the system to make sure a disaster does not happen. Maybe the opposition should stop acting and proposing new plans/taxes, and start helping out our economy. So far all I have seen is Mr. Harper doing his job as a Prime Minister and opposition just wasting their time. Maybe the oppostion should act more responsible as minority and help out in order to solve these problems and stop pointing fingers toward our Prime Minister. Show some respect to our leader as I am sure you would not want the same.
I have to say a good job to Mr. Harper for keeping a focus on issues at stake and not pointing fingers like the rest.
Jerrold
said
It is amazing that some voters actually believe the frenzied negative bleeting of no plan Dion and (his) band of merry men. Win, loose or draw Dion will be eaten by his Cronies.
As for Layton he of course is free to blather away saying anything no matter how unrealistic knowing he will never get to actually do anything except whine about how bad everybody else is. Could you actually imagine what our economy would do if he were to be in charge of anything? The Greens lets face it, a meaningless protest vote. Duceppe-self preservation.
wilson
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If I vote for Dion, I can foresee the cost of living will increase because of the Greenshift. All the carbon tax will transfer to consumers at the end.
I vote for Harper because he has done a good job in the past 2.5 years. I like to 2% GST cut especially.
Softwear
said
Your taxes may be lower, but all of a sudden certain things which are now free/subsized will cost money...lots of money!
Can you afford the true cost of university??
Can you afford to pay thousands and thousands of dollars each year for healthcare?? Amazing! I want your job!
There are thousands and thousands of people in the States who CANNOT afford health insurance. How confident are you that you won't be one of them?
Conservatives will privatize health care. When profits are involved, there is a financial incentive to give lower quality healthcare.
People who rail against government spending truly amaze me. They are obviously against the things the government should spend money on: healthcare, education, transportation, employment insurance.
Help me to understand...the government spending money on this stuff is...bad?
This is the underlying theory of taxation: people with more money are taxed more and people with less money are taxed less. Then that tax money is used to help people get educated, stay healthy, and go to work.
Do we live in a time where people still moralize over poverty??
Most of us don't have that much money, people. Most of us live paycheque to paycheque. Do you have a lot of savings? Tough times happen. To everyone. It's not a question of moral integrity or "hard work."
Are you rich enough to afford Harper?
Tim
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JFJ
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I guess it's easier than doing their own analyses.
CE
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Ahh - the CPC HQ is back online
said
Interesting how there was a sudden onslaught in pro-Harper postings all of a sudden - what happened was there an outage at the multi-million dollar Conservative Propaganda Centre? Or were you all stuck in a "desperation" campaign meeting?
bn
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Prof. Pye Chartt
said
While, indeed, the government has a defined and limited role in many aspects of our collective welfare, it is NOT the government's job to be our principal caregiver (ie. nanny or babysitter), cradle to grave.
Furthermore, contrary to your assertion, the "underlying theory of taxation" is NOT to punish financially successful people by taxing them at a higher rate than less financially successful people. This is an illogical political progression that we're still stuck with. (If you tax both people at the same percentage rate, the greater earner still pays more!)
You're merely spouting basic Socialism, a proven failure designed simply to redistribute the wealth of individuals created by capitalist efforts. You're advocating a parasitic system that eventually bankrupts itself.
Taxation is a mechanism by which the government collects money to do IMPORTANT things for the collective benefit of citizens; it is not a tool for funding EVERY selfish whim of the "takers" in society.
Don't worry; you're not alone in your misguided thinking. The Liberals and NDP only exist because of this mentality.
JR
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I know when I see a 1 800 # calling I sure as heck don't answer the phone. nough said!
Bob
said
If the Libs are once again succesful with the fear mongering which has always been their biggest election tool, then Liz May will have been right about one thing - Canadians are indeed stupid! ( gee, no one seemed to talk too much about that. Can only imagine the outrage if it had been said by a Conservative!)
BTW, I am from Ontario.
ELLIOT
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PM Chretien promised to remove the GST. Did he? Paul Martin as Finance Minister knew nothing about any Sponsorship Program wrong-doings, as his Liberals were passing around brown paper bags filled with cash. He did however know how to register his Canada Steamship Lines company off-shore, in order to avoid high Canadian taxes levied by guess who? Our relations with the U.S were at an all-time low, with Liberals publicly calling Pres. Bush and other Americans morons and bastards.
As soon as PM Harper came to office he mended relations with the U.S and we saw an immediate 80% settlement of the long awaited lumber dispute. He promised a 2% reduction on the GST, lower DAS and delivered both.
A new Liberal carbon tax and a potential return to a 7% GST will not stimulate the Canadian economy. I much prefer the Tory approach. Will the next PM be Dion or Harper? It's a no-brainer.
EricB
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"Harper out of touch with economy. Layton out of touch with reality."
Give me a break, Jack. The last thing we need to do right now is raise taxes/kill tax cuts and make already nervous companies petrified and start laying off even more people.
L.A.
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Don from down on the farm
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GC
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Winston Churchill
Co Co Luongo
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Jim from Halifax
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1)Hide
2)Donate every dime they can to Ignatieff. That way, the upcoming Liberal leadership feud (and of course, there will be one no matter what the result on Tuesday is) will boil over so bad that Blair/Brown and Chretien/Martin leadership feuds will look like jokes. Canadian politics can be saved much tension on a natonal stage if Dion does not become PM.
So, Canada, do you really want a PM who will carry with him an identity scandal similar to the Impeachment of Bill Clinton, combined with the lack of action of George W.?
Tom from montreal
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nice summary of in your eyes, but reality is
Conservatives = massive tax cuts for you rich folks in the west, and nothing for us in the east.
lets see how you folks fair with the price of oil under 90$ , good luck with mr harper's policies
Geoff
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Liberals and the economy.
When the Liberals left power 2.5 years ago the federal debt was 52 BILLION higher than when Chretien first took office.
The highest percent increase in the federal debt (40.5% in a single year) belongs to Liberal Prime Minister Pierre Trudeau in 1978.
These figures are from the Statistics Canada web site.
Canada you can vote from fear again or you can vote informed.
Tom from montreal
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i think u live in la la land, no pun intended.
it was becasue of the liberals which gave the harper governments a nice surplus. give any government a surplus and they can do good cut taxes etc etc
AS long as price of oil remains high, we have and will have 2 economic realities in the country, west vs east. tax breaks only help those who are making money (west) and harper has done NOTHING to redistribute some of that tax revenue to the east.
He is a joke, he took a 9 billion surplus, gave it away and now its down to 2 billion, and some of u rightest make him out to be a genuis!!!
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Jerry O'Connor
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We all know that any political party aspires to achieve a "majority" government (ultimate prize) but if a minority government is the result then that is what must be accepted by that elected party.
However this probable "re-election" of Stephen Harper and his Conservative government is rather somewhat unique and simply cannot be accepted as "just" another minority government win.
In fact what Stephen Harper will have achieved is the confidence, approval and reassurance by Canadians of his previous tenure as prime minister of Canada.
This in fact will be looked upon as a great achievement and not to be shrugged off as a small "matter of fact" by any means of the imagination.
This up coming re-election of Stephen Harper and his Conservative government will in fact be construde as a "vote of confidence" by Canadians and right so.
That will leave the gutless threats of Jack, Dion and Gilles empty and meaningless in the next session of parliament. These pretenders pretending to be leaders will now be silenced... for the Canadian people will have spoken by way of their "VOTE OF CONFIDENCE" having been once again given to Stephen Harper in this election.
No doubt the losers (opposition) will spin their tales but try as they might.... there can be no other conclusions to be had from this re-election of Stephen Harper and the Conservative Party of Canada.
Very concerned Canadian;
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