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Date: Wed. Oct. 8 2008 9:48 PM ET

Canadian artists from a range of disciplines called on federal politicians to support the country's cultural sector as the election campaign heads into its final six days.

Wednesday's rally in Toronto came one day after Conservative Leader Stephen Harper backed off a government policy that could allowed the govern to withhold funding of films if the final product was deemed to be offensive.

Writer-performer Mark McKinney, best known for his work with the "Kids in the Hall" comedy troupe, told CTV Toronto that while he welcomed the backtracking, "but this was a problem of (Harper's) own making, so I can't really credit him for that."

The arts community criticized the policy contained in Bill C-10 as leading to possible censorship of films.

However, McKinney said it was also important to restore the arts funding cut this summer by the Conservative government.

The government cut $45 million in arts program funding. The reaction has been particularly negative in Quebec, where artists have furiously lobbied against the Tories.    

However, Harper has continued to defend the cuts.

"On culture, yes we reduced some programs, but so we could spend on other things where we're getting bigger bang for our buck," Harper told CTV's Lloyd Robertson on Tuesday.

For example, the Conservatives announced a $150 million program on Sept. 29 to make a tax deduction available to parents for their children's music lessons.

Before the election, the Tories announced about $370 million in help for the auto sector. Harper unveiled more help for manufacturing and aerospace when he released his party's platform on Tuesday in Toronto.

McKinney said Canadians should know this country supports a thriving film and television industry.

"We really have an opportunity to not just grow, but explode, in terms of our success as a producer in this country," he said.

"But a critical part of that pipeline is that we need the funding for the theatres, we need to have our actors trained, because you have to have great actors when you're doing the more commercial stuff," he said.

Writers and production workers such as cameramen and lighting technicians all get their start working in smaller, less commercially viable shows and venues, he said.

Canadians -- especially Conservative supporters -- should also understand that the arts are a real industry in Canada, McKinney said.

"I'm hoping that Mr. Harper will have a change of heart and stop thinking of us as these effete poets that live in garrets," he said.

"It's not that at all. We're big. We're big like softwood. So get behind us, advocate for us. Be like Gov. (Arnold) Schwarzenegger in California and defend us. ... We'll bring home profits and we'll support all the arts when that happens."

With a report from CTV Toronto's Jacintha Wesselingh

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Ken P.
said

Good Lord will you art guys give us a break already !! You'd think the whole world revolves around your group !!


Give to those that really need it.
said

Create something worth watching and you won't need government assistance programs. Leave the money for those that really need it like the homeless and those in need.
If not, please support my summer home. I gain so much time to reflect that it makes me a better person to contribute to the world the beauty of nature.


darren
said

why can't I designate on my tax return where I would like the money to go? It wouldn't be for artists, I'm sure many other people would agree. Pay for own hobby!!


Ed Landser
said

Responsible governments - as Mr. Harper mentioned in the debates - have a duty to cut funding where it isn't getting a return on an investment. The federal government cut all kinds of programs that simply weren't working out. The bottom line is that if people really want cultural programs, they should be willing to subsidize them on their own - good theatre, artwork, and the like should be able to exist on its own. If mediocre artists can't make a go of it, I think it says more about the quality of the artists than it does the quality of our elected officials.


adam
said

In times of financial turmoil Art funding should be the first to be off the list of government subsidy.
I object to much of the offensive material that has been made with the assistance of tax dollars. This is what the Prime Minister is concerned about.



schpid
said

Complaining about censorship and destroying culture in Quebec? Weird how it's ok that all signs are to be in French only; no matter what the ethic breakdown of the community is. Quebec, the leading producer of Pornography in Canada.
If the public is not going to support your "art" or "vision" then why should the government?
Atrs and culture are very important. The idea of the Bill makes sense: why pay for garbage? Censorship is bad but I don't think convincing people that smearing yourself in feces and reading slam poetry will being paddled by dwarves in drag, is art the TAXPAYERS shouldn't fund is asking too much


BB in B.C.
said

...I think Harper was right on the money but the artists made a mountain out of a mole hill. How about spreading a little of that money around in B.C. where we have some artists too?


AL
said

When times are tough ARTS are NOT a priority. Period.

We would all love to do what we liked rather than have to work at what can earn us a living.
Maybe artists should consider doing the same. Ge ta real job and do your art as a sideline.




Janet in Ontario
said

Arts like any other business should support itself - I am a small business person and if I want to buy art I will . But I do not want to pay higher taxes to support the arts. Do the people in Arts want to support my business - I also employ a few people that would appreciate a raise and not more tax. Do the people in the arts want to support them too. You really have to look at it form both sides - it isn't the governments money it is ours - the taxpayer.


New World
said

Hey here's an idea sure let's cut arts funding… but then let's take away all the funding and tax exempt status frpm religious institutions, no more sports funding for your children and athletes, no more funding to small business (you should be able to do it on your own and sell what people want) and no more funding for science or technology.

What you may call waste… is another persons livelihood. What I may call waste may be your livelihood. Small minds are unable to see the bigger picture.

When Winston Churchill was asked to cut funding for the arts to finance the war effort, he asked, "Then what are we fighting for?"


Duane Oshawa
said

I hear a whole lot of whinning about cuts, I love the arts, however when I see a film "young People F--king" that has received federal funding, I question how this could possibly advance our culture. The arts should not be a fringe movement trying to define what they want for us, rather they should mirror the values and vision of mainstream Canadians, and when making a film, perhaps make it interesting, instead of trying to make a political statement with tax payers dollars.


David Copelin
said

Most of the above comments are quite ignorant. Without subsidy, which is never very much anyway, ticket prices in small theatres would be sky-high. Artists are not lazy, good art doesn't always find a large audience (you're confusing quality with popularity), and artists are also taxpayers and clients of small businesses. Get educated about what art is. Even better, talk to an artist or two. They're just like you -- plus talent.


Niagara George
said

Others have gone down the list, so it isn't necessary to repeat it, but if arts funding is cut, then we better cut all funding. We will definitely start with the billions that big oil companies received from this government.

If you did a tour of the USA, you would find very few people who could name the prime minister or any other Canadian politician. But, you could find many who would recognize Celine Dion and many other Canadian singers and actors. Our artists and athletes are the ones who make a name for our country, not our politicians.




Annie Edson
said

Okay, Ken P. Lemme guess. You have a full-time wage, right? You are likely white, middle class. Let's hope you don't have a child who 1. grows up to be an artist and wants to make a life in the arts; 2. have a child with special needs 3. have a child who finds out his or her sexuality are preventing them from equal benefits, or let's hope that, when you become a senior, you aren't ignored, and your issues passed over. You haven't a clue what the arts do for Canada, and you haven't a clue how lucky you are to be in (I am assuming) a demographic that never has to cut corners or make do. Celebrate the musicians and artists and writers around you....you wouldn't even have television to watch if they didn't create the programs.


Lost Cause
said

Darren said: why can't I designate on my tax return where I would like the money to go? It wouldn't be for artists, I'm sure many other people would agree.



I agree with this concept. I would like my tax dollars that are going towards funding the mission in Afghanistan to be redesignated towards other things.

I would strongly support the idea of having a vote that comes with a list of checkable categories where voters think tax should be spent, and those percentages thus forced into application by whoever won the election. With a way of keeping it accountable after the election.

Anyone else agree?


TallCurtis
said

These artists are asking for nothing more than WELFARE. In fact these sycophants have made bottom feeding an art unto itself. Why should be forced to pay for someone to produce crap I may not like or want? You want to make art then great, go make art. If its something I like then I'll buy it and that includes painings, sculpture, books, movies, plays, concerts, ballet, tv programming, or whatever. If you have something socially valid to sell then it'll sell. If it's not socially valid it won't sell and you should not expect government handouts so you can produce it anyways. It is no different than expecting the government to hand over taxpayers' money to the CEO's at Ford and GM so they can keep producing gas guzzling 4 wheel drive SUV's, even if nobody is buying them any more.


Non-Artist
said

New world,

Thank you for your enlightened view. Whether it is the production of art or the assembly of a "widget" does it really matter? As long as it adds value to our society we should support it. So many people are quick to discredit what they don't even understand.


New World
said

Janet…

Canadians do fund small businesses…
check the government website.

"Governments in Canada seek to stimulate the economy through funding for small business. In fact, they have set aside billions of dollars each year for small businesses to stimulate the economy and help you to start, expand, and improve companies like yours."

You can get…
Grants and Subsidies (one-time and renewable)
Low or no-interest loans
Tax refunds or tax credits
Government insurance against business risks
Guaranteed government purchases of your product or service
Government Information and Services
Conditionally Repayable Contributions
Grants in-lieu of Property Taxes
Equity Financing
Relocation Grants

You don't see me screaming don't waste my tax payers money on Small Business.

Now do you want me to talk about the other funding you get, which you probably don't know about either.



Why not!
said

By George! you are right!

Over and above cutting taxes to the Art, the Businesses and others as suggested above, lets also cut the subsidies provided to the farmers, the oil companies and drilling subsidies, lets also cut into all mining subsidies and logging subsidies. Heck, why not cut across and get ride of the national equalization payments to the provinces and finally, let's nationalize all oil and gas natural resources in Canada.

This way, no one gets any money from the Federal and we can then cut our national taxation level by 50-75% at least.

But then, who will care if no one has a job left to speak of?


workinculture
said

It makes me laugh to read all of these comments. What is the first thing people turn to during a tough time?

They turn to those things that are cheap and/or free. Like the radio or maybe a local art gallery that doesn't charge much, really anything that will take their minds off the hardship. Yet without funding there is none of this. So we can cut funding to the arts and just sit around staring at each other because we have nothing to do or we can support our own ecomony in hopes that it will grow and emerge stronger and better than before the hard time.

Without the arts we aren't much of a culture.




vivian
said

Give more of my tax dollars to self centered artist, great. Go get a real job like the rest of us.


gee
said

How could an $86 billion industry collapse when a seemingly small percentage (%0.005) of the money is reassigned within the same industry?

Why do Canadian art and culture products have so little impact after costing so much over the decades?

And since we're hearing from ordinary Canadians, like celebrities, what do Bruno Gerussi and Rich Little say about entitlements for Mark McKinney?



Janesse L
said

Mining, oil, fisheries and forestry and the auto industry get financial support and tax cuts because they create jobs, so why shouldn't the arts? We're used to thinking of the arts as a hobby, but a hobby doesn't employ 1.1 million Canadians or make up 3.8% of Canada's GDP (bigger than the retail sector.)

It's time to update some of our old-fashioned ideas of what work is and recognize that arts and culture is a real industry, with workers who do real jobs.


New World
said

Tall Curtis.

Socially valid? Socially Valid? Explain to me what you consider socially valid? Video games? Weapons? Alcohol? Cell Phones? Ski doos? All of which were funded by the government one way or another. How about Cirque du'Soleil? Without arts funding in the beginning it wouldn't be employing many thousand's of Canadians and many more world wide.

Again… what you see as bottom feeders, I see as opportunity AND freedom.


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