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Date: Fri. Oct. 3 2008 7:20 PM ET

For the second time in five days, Liberals are accusing Conservative Leader Stephen Harper of plagiarism.

In a press release issued by the Liberals, Ottawa-South candidate David McGuinty accuses Harper of copying a speech given by former Ontario Premier Mike Harris in 2002.

The press release compares the speaking notes used by Harris on December 4, 2002, which are posted on the website of the Montreal Economic Institute:

"Thinking about things from a new and different perspective is never easy. It takes courage, conviction and the strength to know that in taking a new and innovative course, you are making change for the better. Genuine leaders are the ones who do the right thing."

Two months later, on February 19, 2003, Harper gave a similar address in the House of Commons in response to the Liberal budget:

"Thinking about things from a new and different perspective is not about reading the polls and having focus group tests. It is never easy because it takes courage, conviction and the strength to know that taking a new and innovative course is going to make change for the better. Genuine leaders are the ones who do the right thing."

The new allegations come just days after a campaign worker for the Conservatives resigned after admitting he used parts of a speech from then-Australian prime minister John Howard in a 2003 speech for then-opposition leader Stephen Harper.

Dan Dugas, a Conservative spokesman, shrugged off the latest plagiarism accusation as a Liberal plan to "deflect attention from their lack of an economic plan," The Canadian Press reported.

He added that the Liberals had found 44 similar words out of a nearly five-thousand word speech.

Still, Dugas wouldn't say who actually wrote the Harper speech.

Meanwhile, McGuinty accused the Conservative leader of lacking the capacity to think for himself.

"It's time for the prime minister to take responsibility for his repeated plagiarism, for passing off the thoughts and words of others as his own. Or perhaps he'll simply find another junior speech writer to fire," McGuinty said in the release.

The Conservatives initially downplayed Liberal candidate Bob Rae's accusations of plagiarism on Tuesday.

But Conservative aide Owen Lippert, who had been Harper's former speechwriter, took responsibility for cribbing Howard's words and resigned.

"Neither my superiors in the office of the leader of the Opposition nor the leader of the Opposition was aware that I had done so," Lippert said in a statement.

"I apologize to all involved and have resigned my position from the Conservative campaign."

With files from The Canadian Press

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Socialism is killing us
said

Again, another speech from 5 years ago. Probably the same speech writer who resigned already. The liberals are a bunch of fools.


Bill from Whitby
said

What's next.......he didn't say thank you to his mother one time?


Jeff
said

Enough is enough.

The liberals need to stop complaining about pointless issues, and start talking about policies.

What next - a huge media release on his sweater?

This is proof of no leadership in the Liberal party. Mr. Dion better start packing, he is moving out of the official opposition house


Bruce
said

I guess when he releases his "REAL PLAN" next week, it will be copied from some other leaders PLAN! Two cases now where his can produce an original idea!!

I am sure some flacky from the Conservatives will take the heat for Harper once again.

HARPER - a devil in sheeps clothing or in his case a deveil in a sweater vest!

Wake up Canadians!!!


RobO
said

Can the dig up any more non-news worth information...It seems that the Liberals have nothing more to do then sling old non-news worth stories. How about pitching something worth while....Oh no they will have to bring back there old policies.


Greg P, Winnipeg
said

I could read roughly the same sentiment from Harris' statements in pretty much any leadership book - this one is pushing things a bit.


RCR04
said

Thank goodness we're going to have an NDP/Liberal coalition so that this xeroxed leader doesn't abuse this country any longer.


Robert White
said

plagiarism is for academics and journalists. politicians rarely use their own words, and politicians on the same side of the spectrum often repeat the same ideas. get over it, this is not an issue in politics. if it were you'd never hear the words "i have a dream" or "sleeping with an elephant" or "i will not raise taxes" again.


AJ
said

All the speeches sound the same, because they are talking about the same topic, from the same point of view and philosophy.
If this is such a problem...why didn't they raise the issues months ago during the last election?
I'm voting NDP.


Merle Terlesky
said

Who really cares-Jack layton steals from Obama and no one says anything.
Bobby Kennedy used other speakers words as well.
In fact at Bobby Kennedy's funeral his brother Ted Kennedy used a quote aboout seeing things as they should be and saying why not?
When in fact those were not his words at all.
So who really cares.



Liberals GOING DOWN!!
said

Liberals now = desperate! Now there is a good news headline! And speaking of someone who may not be able to speak for himself, how about the Liberal leader Dion? It is really sad when a party leader uses speech writers and then hands the speech over to someone else! Talk about grasping at straws....


Barney
said

Come on, Liberals! Is that all ya got?
This is silly gotcha politics again, dredging up past comments, speeches or articles in a desparate attempt to make Harper look awful, cold or incompetent.
From all appearances, this is simply involves a speech writer who was cutting corners to provide Harper with material to express his own point of view. The words may have been lifted from some other leader but clearly and more importantly their views on the matter were in agreement.
Obviously, this is not a practise that we want to encourage among the speech writers but I hardly think this is a case of borrowing foreign policy from Australia.
You know, if the Liberals want to go back far enough, they can probably get some primary school classmate sign a statement that Stephen Harper called him names as a child.
Give me a break!


Curtis
said

Whoops


Nicole
said

As I mentioned previously...I'm more concerned with Dion's lifting a private member's (Stephen Harper's) words on the Clarity Act than some lazy speech writer who may have copied a line or two. But I guess when you have nothing to offer but tax and spend with a weak leader desperation calls for you to grasp on any straw you can find.



Tired of this. Where is the substance??
said

I'm seeing a pattern here. It is OK to bilk the public out of millions while the Liberals were in power, but do not read a plagiarized speech.
Sorry, I thought our elected officials were supposed to run a country, not try to get through some university subject.


BC Liberal
said

Ministers must take some responsibility for the people on their staff. Even if Harper had no hand whatsoever in crafting this speech (displaying either utter laziness or complete disregard for his audience), it is up to him to hire ethical, honest people. This does indeed reflect badly on him as a leader.


Lon
said

to all the liberals out there...plagarism and not being accountable for your actions is hardly "nothing" This idiot wants to run our country buthas no idea whathe is talkingabout. ...

Jeff
said

When will the CONservatives understand you can't get caught in the truth.


Glo
said

Wow. Digging through more speeches to find dirt from 6 years ago? Give me a break. Is this the best way they can think of using their time? Is that all they are doing? Looking for dirt? Is that because they know their party has no substance and they're afraid it's finally showing? This is not the kind of campaign that Canadians like or want to see. They just lost my vote.


Wise Wajid
said

You people are too much. Why do you think the platform is still "under the sweater"? Because Harpo has to copy that from someone else too!!!


Herb
said

It's funny how conservatives completely ignore the issue. This is a man without an original idea. He borrows from the Harris farce and yet his supporters say "Oh, is that all?" Past actions indicate future choices--a notion that eludes the extreme right.

It's sad.


Freedom Lover-Ontario
said

I see that the Liberals haven't learned a thing. This continual attck on Steven Harper, will in the end, help Harper. It shows exactly what the Liberals have become. A very shallow party with nothing to offer but a plan that makes the average Canadian pay more to simply use the necessities of life. They spend more time bashing than they do presenting. I have voted Liberal in the past, but will never put my X with them again. Harper is the only logical choice with a balance. Green shift is not revenue neutral. It means that the dollars that we don't get back will be used on programs "for the public". That means that the Liberals think they know how to spend our money better than we do. Sounds a lot like socialism to me. No thanks! I am sure the founders of the Liberal Party are rolling over in their graves.


blue charlie
said

To all of you good folks on the left, no matter what you say or dig up from the past, you are not going to be able to stop the Blue Train this election. The problem with you well intentioned folks is that you think we have forgotten the sponsorship scandle and the Rae days of the 90s. Canadians no longer have the stomach for weak leaders that exist in the liberal and NDP parties. You are proving more and more that the only way you can win an election is to discredit and smear people who disagree with you. Have you noticed that Mr. Harper has not resorted to getting personal or attacking the other leaders like a pitbull? Politics is cyclical. You good folks on the left will eventually get back into power. Why not show some integrity in the process.


Samantha
said

Liberals stole from taxpayers for over 14 years, but are trying to make out that they are the moral compass. I don't care if speaches are similar. But I do care that the former government stole hundreds of millions of dollars, and have yet to apolagize or return the money to the taxpayers. Time to vote for a new government. Vote Green Party.


Mojo from Whitby
said

Plagiarism is a serious issue. Stephen Harper should be astute enough to now when his speaches are copied word for word or close to it. He is the messenger. Stephen Harper has proven again he is not Prime Minister material.


Jay C
said

It's funny to see how Conservatives hurry to cover Stephen Harper's mistakes. If someone else had done that they would have trashed him.
You think it's No-News worth of information, but I tell you, if the PM is not able to articulate his own ideas, maybe he will go and borrow someone else's agenda to govern the country with.
Do you think people are fools? wake up people... wake up


A. Bica
said

Hey . . . all of you organized Tory forum commentors. Making jibes is not how you overcome your leader's failure to bring forward his platform. What is he hiding and what are your candidates hiding by not attending constituency debates?

Methinks you have a hidden agenda and hope that you can win a majority to carry it through. Too bad, you won't get it, especially after harper's coyness in the debate last night.

Too bad, so sad!!!


Steven-Ontario
said

I have never seen the Liberals work so hard. They know there going down to a massive defeat. If they had worked this hard and kept all there promises in the 90's under Chretien. Create daycare spots, get rid of the GST, to name a couple. They would not be in this mess. Pack your bags Dion. CANADIANS have finally woken up to the lack luster Liberal leadership. How can you have 3 majorities and do nothing. Sign on the dotted line for Kyoto and now blame the Conservatives for the enviormental problems of today.


Adam (kingston)
said

If he plagerized this much in his professional practice, i wonder if his academic papers were plagerized too when he did his masters and undergrad degrees


Belle River Woman
said

Did the Liberals not realize last time that the majority of Canadians responded to this as un-newsworthy? Apparently they decided to keep digging, thinking they were on to something that we cared about - we don't. I know that the Party leaders don't write their own speeches; they never have. All I care about is their actual ability to lead the country, without REAL scandals like the sponsorship scandal. If this is the most dirt that the Liberals can dig up on Harper, then I'm pretty impressed with Harper. Thanks for convincing me Liberals.


Paul - Orillia
said

With no proposed platform by Harper, I guess Canada is following some other country's budget too??


FCS
said

"You think it's No-News worth of information, but I tell you, if the PM is not able to articulate his own ideas, maybe he will go and borrow someone else's agenda to govern the country with.
Do you think people are fools? wake up people... wake up"

Wake up and what? Vote Liberal? Articulate his ideas? Dion couldn't articulate an idea if he had a gun to his head. And enough of the "wake up people" crap from all you lefties out there. I think most Candaians are fully awake and that's why they are not keen on flushing the country away with Dion's Green Shift. Oh sorry that's not part of his platform anymore right? I'm noty sure since it changes day to day. It's pretty obvious who needs to wake up.



Dave from Toronto
said

I think Harper's new platform will be called "The Common Sense Revolution" nope? Already taken....but that doesn't matter. Maybe it's his enviromental side to recycle speeches!
What a joke, too bad nobody's laughing. Fire Harper!


R D
said

Have the liberals & NDP checked to see if Harper's nice blue sweater was Canadian made or did he get a "Made in China" one from Wal-Mart. Special Note:: If anyone wants to take the time to go through political speech records, you're going to find 100s of speeches which are so similar, dozens of politicans over the decades could be accused of plagiarism. Get a life.


Ross
said

WHat a joke, we have no leadership what so ever. All good politicians are gone and we are left with this!!!


SANCHEZ
said

I am reading all these comments and I am disgusted with them. I never realized how Americanized you have all become. The conservatives are a spin off of the Republican party and most have you bought it hook line and sinker. Time to move out of Canada the next American state.


Denise
said

So, why hasn't Stephane Dion's plagiarism of David Suzuki's report "The Air We Breathe" been brought up? When Dion was running for the leadership of the party, his "Clean Air Plan" was published on his website with several lines lifted DIRECTLY from the Suzuki report, uncredited. A couple of bloggers have tried to justify it by saying that "it's alright because the two of them share the same beliefs about climate change".

And, as Nicole said above, what about the Clarity Act?


John
said

Now, if only Mr. Harper could plagiarism some of the good policies from these guys it would be a move in the right direction. I gather his staff are hidden away working on that platform Mr. Layton was looking for under Mr. Harper's Sweater. It wouldn't surpise me if it is also plagiarized since I've seen no real unique ideas from the conservatives in the two years they have been in existence. That's all you can really expect from novices with no real vision for Canada. Even their economics is plagiarized from Ronald Reagan and their re-elect strategy is plagiarized from Mr. G.W. Bush.


Jack M., Calgary
said

Let's imagine for a moment that these were Harper's words and he meant it. "Thinking about things from a new and different perspective is not about reading the polls and having focus group tests. It is never easy because it takes courage, conviction and the strength to know that taking a new and innovative course is going to make change for the better. Genuine leaders are the ones who do the right thing." He has described his opponent, Stephane Dion, who has a new and bold plan for the environment and the economy.


vic
said

Mr. McGuinty and Mr. Rae, are you telling us that neither one of you ever repeated any one else's ideas in a political speech and that both of you have always been original, always the primary source of wisdom? Or are you telling us that everytime you repeat someone else's idea in a political speech that you dutifully, rigorously and faithfully acknowledge your sources during the speech, complete with orally declared footnotes? Would you be able to give us some examples of such honest speeches from your own files?


RCR
said

I believe we are now seeing the Liberal pattern.
Dion introduces the Green Shift, can't sell tax increases Rae and Ignatieff et al are dispatched to try to explain it to the electorate and speak for him.. David McGuinty is assigned the task of digging into the history books and Hansard to see what Mr Harper says that might be the same as was said years ago... Here's a quote for all you Liberal posters...."Desperate times require Desperate measures". Not sure who said that but just wanted you to see that it is a quote.. Go Steven Go.
ABDRI & Co....


Josh
said

This is ridiculous! The Liberals have nothing better to criticize the Conservatives on? The liberals are a joke and so is their leader. Give it up. This isn't relevant to the election!


Wayne Whig
said

this is just ridiculous - it has been shown now that both Dion and Ignatieff plagiarized speeches - and that Rae was credibly accused of plagiarizing his `We're All in the Same Boat' song from years ago.

Ontario Jim
said

No wonder I like Harper so much. I wish Mike was running for PM!


BadP
said

I think Stephen Harper must be commended for saving taxpayer's money. How stupid must we be to believe what politicians are telling us?
Their words do not matter anyway, it's what they are doing that's important.
So instead of wasting his time or money for the writers they are just copying and pasting. Simple and efficient!
Stephane Dion must learn and use. We all know who he is and how corrupt his party is. Why waste time to look better than you really are?


Bob NS
said

Are the Liberals so desesperate that they have to dig out archives and go with mistakes made by a speech writers years back.
That's telling us what they are all about. The reason for there rejection don't sink in yet.

Lorne
said

Interesting.
If it only happened once, it could be forgotten.
However, if it occurs a second time, it makes a person reconsider the initial allegation.
Either Harper is very naive and therefore, shouldn't be PM or his writer is overpaid for the work he did.
I believe both arguments apply in this case.



GC
said

One good point made in today's posts:

How can any Liberal act as a moral compass in this country?


Roadrobber
said

What the Canadian public really needs to understand is that Stephane Dion voted with the Conservatives 43 times and was unable to lead an effective opposition, he hasn't even paid off his campaign debts from the leadership convention and yet he's running to be Prime Minister of Canada.

(credit to Jack Layton)


artistmate
said

Common sense will not permeate the Conservative mind. They are of a group think mentality.


K. Johnston
said

The Green Shift was taken right out of the Green Party platform. The name Green Shift was taken from a self employed women who had to fight to try and keep her good name intact. She was so upset she took them to court. So let's dwell on these facts for a moment.

The Liberals are running on a lot of borrowed names and issues.



Dan
said

Sorry, What is it the Liberals stand for again? I can't seem to find out what it is they are offering. All I here is blah! blah! blah!

The same old Liberals. I would respect them more if 5 years ago they brought this up and pointed it out then and then brought it up again. But holding onto this for five years so they can simply pull it out when they think it best fits their need is stupid. They have nothing to offer except... look look, look what he did... see, see, he did it.

The only reason we did not hear from the Liberals before about all these speeches is because they though they were going to win. But they lost, they are really bad losers.

Hey Bob, can you go back more then 5 years and give me my money back that you took from me in Ontario? You remember, when you were in power. Or Dion, can we go back more then 5 years and get my vote back when the Liberals promised me they would be drop the GST just to get into power and then did nothing. I would like to re-vote.

What some more, I have a whole war chest full of broken Liberal lies from the past. How about the 11 times you promised child care, Hey Dion, my kids are all grown up now, thanks for the child care... nice job!

I have more but can only post 300 characters. Sorry got to go to work now and earn some of the taxes you what to take from me. Good luck!


Chad from London
said

I see two issues here: First, the Liberals are continuing to dig up speeches written 5 years ago, and the media continues to report it... Let's talk about the issues...Jobs, economy, health care, investing in small business, crime legislation, and the environment. Let the Liberals cry all they want...They're loosing ground, and can't relate to Canadians..so they muck-rake.


james
said

Why are the Liberals talking about ancient speeches?

Why don't they talk about the merits of Green Shift?

Maybe they are afraid of sliding down the polls to irrelevance if they do.


Tim in Winnipeg
said

Not the most gripping issue of the election, granted, but I would like to think that when our political leaders are speaking to us, it isn't too much to expect them to use their own words/ideas. Being so lazy as to lift lines from someone elses speech shows disrespect and contempt for those of us who listen. This goes for any who would operate in such a manner, not just Mr. Harper.


Dwight Osiowy
said

Anyone who has completed a post secondary education knows how difficult it is to express a widley held or common idea without using similar vocabulary to previous writers. In this case there are not many ways to better express the idea or position. If this is what my Liberals are focusing on, it is time to look for real Leadership somewhere else. During the debate last all four opposition party leaders used many identical words and thoughts in attacking the Prime Minister, does this mean none of them are capable of an original idea?


George ON
said

The news orgs outside of Canada thought this was very newsworthy. Seems most Canadians, at least the ones on this website, don't think so.


Reece
said

So who's going to fall on their sword for this one?...and the next, and the next, and....


GO HARPER
said

Awwww,I expected better from Libsteria Lane.Can't they come up with something better than this.NEOCON,BUSH CLONE,SWEATER BOY.

GO HARPER GO.
And make sure all you conservative supporters get on face book and trade your votes. But still vote conservative , that is what I have done. mwahhhhhaaaaa


Dorothy
said

How many over zealous professors have charged university students with plagiarism and put the student through hell? Fair is fair Mr. Harper...and somehow this just doesn't add up in my books.


Stop the hypocrisy
said

You conservatives are such hypocrites!! If the leader of another party had given not one, but several plagarized speeches you'd all be screaming for their head.

To dismiss this as a "pointless issue" or that "all speeches are the same" is a such a load. It speaks to the fundamental credibility of the individual. Oh, and Harper being this country's biggest control-freak/micro manager you can not tell me that he was completely ignorant of the language in these speeches!

Pull your heads out of the sand!


great199
said

can he write his own speech? sounds more and more like bush everyday


margaretb
said

Check out this. In the Oct 2nd issue of the Vancouver Province, there's a story by Ian Austin - staff writer, in which the Liberals used a picture of an elderly couple exchanging a gentle kiss in a Liberal ad. Problem is, the couple are both long-time NDP party members! Personally, I think the wheels have fallen off the Liberals' wagon.


Metro Man
said

Did not Layton, May, Duceppe, and Dion each plagiarize each other in the debate last night. They kept reading from the same page of the philosophy.

Liberals - desperate politicians running scared.


Dan Williams
said

Conservatives are real tools. You are all in total denial. Wake up, the ideology is dead. He still preaches that the U.S problems will not affect us. Guess what politically challenged, the trade policies of past and current conservatives killed that notion. Elect them again and see how the robot makes us more dependant, without protection, on other countries without regulation on the greedy. Stop preaching the same crap and think for your selves.

Danw W
Waterloo ON.

PS which party balanced the books?



Normand Beaupre
said

Harper cannot think by himself.disastrous
Disastrous.


DC
said

This just in... Stephen Harper burned a CD of his favourite songs in 2002 to listen to in his car.

Come on guys, give me a break... all the political leaders hire speech writers. Just like any other job that gets contracted out, sometimes you get burned.

Although, if you want to criticize people for stealing words or phrases, how about Dion stealing the term "Green Shift" for his environmental tax... er, I mean plan.


John from Sudbury
said

People keep griping about trash. These speeches are as much a non topic as is the meme that the Conservatives have no platform. Are you too lazy to click a link to their policy page? Just go to the conservative dot ca site and click on Policy. It has been updated to include this next term. You will even find an economic plan. I am glad Prime Minister Stephen Harper has an economic plan unlike Dions hail mary of let's get committees to discuss it. That is not an economic plan.

Denise: Suzuki is a lobbyist who wants politicians to use his ideas. That is not plagiarism either.


RobO
said

Hey I cast my vote today and for all you Liberal Lovers, starting crying.....your going the way of the DODO Bird.


Mike S
said

What a fine example to be setting for our young people....kids get booted out of universities and colleges for such actions...I say boot Harper out of office on Oct 14th....Ive had enough of the sweater vests and tightly controlled media machine that Harper has tried to create during this election with his faked photo ops and fake "public" events that are not open to the public.


Metro Man
said

Here comes the Police in the streets again from the Liberals.


Vote for your NDP MP
said

Mr Harper, you call this strong leadership when you copy speechs from others. In fact, you're not a strong leader. I wonder if Harper has actually plagerized speeched from GW Bush. If this occured then voters will send Harper packing from 24 Sussex.



davidovich
said

Harper is a Winner.
That's with a capital W.
Dion is a Loser.
That's with a capital L tattooed on his forehead.


SF
said

This is hardly a "pointless" issue! What is the matter with you people and your blind support of Harper?! This election is about leadership, and although I dislike Harper, I thought, until this week, that he was a good leader. Can this man even think for himself? I don't want Mike Harris, George W. Bush, or John Howard for PM, and I certainly don't want to see their failed and destructive policies implemented at the national level here in Canada. Enough with the partisan politics - it's time that those who support Harper call a spade a spade. Does this man take responsibility for anything he does or says, whether it be archaic, out of touch ideas or stolen speeches? Pretty soon he's going to run out of people to fire for his shady and loathesome stunts. Let's send him and his lackeys packing - ABC all the way!


V. Barr
said

The Liberals are pathetic! It didn't work the first time, so they try again but this time with no backup video to prove anything. I am still waiting for my cheque in the mail that Paul Martin promised when the sponsorship millions are recovered!


Scott
said

Sure the plagiarism is not a conspicuous as the Australian case. However, it still clearly is plagiarism. But what is reveals most about Harper is that he is of the same philosophical mindset as Howard (Australia) and Harris (Ontario). Have people in Ontario already forgotten how much they hated the right-wing Harris years? Do they want to give Harris or George W. Bush a third term in Ottawa? Do they want to import the high crime, incarceration rates, expensive private health care, and international wars that have plagued the US under Bush?

Harper is not a Canadian nationalist but a neo-conservative puppet who has evidently followed the ideological leads of other neo-conservatives. He is extremely dangerous for Canada.


anti tax dude
said

Again we see the liberal agenda . "Win at any cost!" Worry about the electorate after we win. Did Dalton give you that idea David? I have never seen the liberals so desperate in my life-not to mention broke because no one will contribute to their party. Keep up the good work Liberals. I look forward to you tearing your party apart.


Layton B in Moncton NB
said

Two copy cat speeches eh? So I guess he's a chronic plagiarizer, any school, university or college would expel him forever for this. I don't care how much the parrots from the conservative party say this is just the Liberals trying to create a stir, the fact is that Harper has been delivering other peoples speeches as his own. That's plagiary, plain and simple. But hey this is the guy who launched a lawsuit against the Government agency that was investigating the conservatives for election fraud. This is the guy who cut arts money and made grants dependent on content. Canada, don't let him off the hook for this one.


Frank Harris in Toronto
said

Yawn. Another slow news day?



Robin the Hood
said

The fact that they have to plagiarize from other leaders even their own speeches proves Harper and the conservatives are a bunch of automatons simply pulling the right wing agenda with no platform of their own. This is not leadership.. Its the blind leading the stupid.
In case anyone is wondering what an automaton is...
Main Entry: au·tom·a·ton
Function: noun
Etymology: Latin, from Greek, neuter of automatos
Date: 1645
1: a mechanism that is relatively self-operating ; especially : robot
2: a machine or control mechanism designed to follow automatically a predetermined sequence of operations or respond to encoded instructions
3: an individual who acts in a mechanical fashion

Its pathetic!


Dylan
said

I guess what the Liberals don't mention is that EVERY party writes their leader's speeches for them.......so in fact none of them think for themselves.....


Liberal suggestion
said

Robin the Hood:

I think you should run for the Liberals. Dion is going to be sent packing after his dismal failure to third place in the election giving the Leader of the Opposition to Jack Layton.

David McGuinty, Iggy, Rae and Hall-Findlay will run again but I think you ought to also after all you post here 12 times a day - ya may as well get involved and put that mighty brain to work.




Max
said

No suprisee from the Liberals.
As they sink to the bottom of the pack this is the best they can come up with. Looks like a bunch of losers grasping at the last straws.
Give it up Liberals you are done and bringing up this stupidity proves it.
I'm sure we will never hear of anyone copying Dion at least that is a blessing
Go Harper Go Majority this time and shut the Liberals up once and for all!!!!!!!!


Gord in Regina Sask
said

There was so little traction from the first time the Liberals accused the Conservatives of plagiarism, that I am surprised they went for it again today. I guess when the campaign has sputtered and with the poor showing by their leader in the English debate (to the point that he was almost in tears when he spoke to the camera) the Liberals will try almost anything to derail the Conservative momentum. Fortunately, Canadians are a lot smarter than that.



rules
said

Quite funny how universities will kick you without a moment of hesitation if caught plagairizing. We also teach our kids this in high school. Elected officials should know better by now. I am sorry Tory supporters, the rules still apply. Just check out the Education Act; a government policy document.


Rod
said

Enough of this childish school yard stuff, don't this guy have anything more serious to cry about


Denise
said

Johnfrom Sudbury,

...and Dion is an academic who should know better than to copy and paste someone else's words without giving credit. If it was fine and dandy to do so, why did his staff go back to the website the next day and add footnotes crediting Suzuki for the statements?


Michael Dorosh, Calgary
said

Every single person who has posted here that the Conservatives have "no platform" has proven several things - a) they have no idea of the world around them; b) they did not pay attention to what Mr. Harper was saying last night, and c) they have been easily swayed by the lies of the well-intentioned but poor thinking opposition leaders.

Mr. Harper very clearly spelled out that his government has in fact been working for many months to put policies in place to protect Canadians from the kinds of things the Americans are going through right now. Some policies are extensions of Liberal policies - granted - others are new policies. The media has widely reported the Conservatives have carried through on over 50% of their election promises from last time and will likely seal the deal on almost all the rest if given a majority - to the benefit of all of us. You can't espouse all that in a sound bite. There's no "hidden agenda". He spelled it out last night, but you had to pay attention to the entire broadcast - not just wait for a funny quip like Mr. Layton was lying in wait for. He was at it again today with his "sweater" cheap shots. He's proving nothing with them. Mr. Harper has a plan; had HAD a plan for months. Anyone who says he doesn't just plain doesn't get it and should stop embarrassing themselves by admitting that in public.


Ex-liberal in SK
said

Is this all the Liberals can get on this guy? - Amazing...let's give Harper the majority he deserves...


Real Action
said

If this is the most severe thing that this government has done, then please elect them to majority. If you didn't already know, it is a common thing for politicians to use the same material. That's no new knowledge. Obviously, the words used chosen were used because it conincided with what they believed in.

Reminds me, where's my 40 million dollars you Liberals stole from the sponsorship scandal? How about the 1 BILLION dollars you stole from HRDC (CDN tax payer). I want my money back.




Gerry
said

Steal my thoughts, steal my money. Actually my thoughts are more valuable.


James from Vancouver
said

Harper and the Conservatives have no plan today. Just like they had no plan 5 years ago.


A Real IT Manager from Calgary
said

And this is big news Liberal revelation is supposed to help out the economy somehow?

The Liberals are getting really desperate!



Bill from Whitby
said

What's next.......he didn't say thank you to his mother one time?


Jeff
said

Enough is enough.

The liberals need to stop complaining about pointless issues, and start talking about policies.

What next - a huge media release on his sweater?

This is proof of no leadership in the Liberal party. Mr. Dion better start packing, he is moving out of the official opposition house


AJ
said

All the speeches sound the same, because they are talking about the same topic, from the same point of view and philosophy.
If this is such a problem...why didn't they raise the issues months ago during the last election?
I'm voting NDP.


Helen
said

People who live in glass houses...

Mr. Dion used Tony Blair's "tough on crime, tough on the causes of crime" slogan during last night's debate - and did so without attribution. You'd think a professor would know better.


Harper should learn to think for himself.
said

Cheaters will not prosper.




Smokey
said

Who cares, oh wait the Liberals, cause they are done like toast. Maybe they should concentrate on their platform, oh wait no one likes it. The politics are emblematic of a party that has lost an election. Maybe they should do the good ol, lets steal from the NDP with the escuse we are the only ones who can stop a Conservitive majority. I say fire the campaign strategist.


Bryan
said

To all the conservatives on here:

Plagiarism isn't Ok in school or university...it shouldn't be Ok for the PRIME MINISTER OF A COUNTRY!

We need a change. I'm with Danny Williams on this one:

ABC - Anything but conservatives


Liberals need love too
said

I am really finding it funny that the Liberal supporters seem to feel that this speech nonsense should bring the Tories down. The NDP supporters at least are making a statement based on their political opinions but those who are part of the big red machine are so out of touch with reality they can only come up with this as a reason to get rid of one of the best governments we've seen in a long time?


McGuinty not been straight with voters
said

David McGuinty slings the dirt yet he is covered with it himself.

McGuinty is Dions environmental critic the lame brain who is behind the much hated Green Shaft tax grab.

Ottawa South residents and Canadians are very naive to believe McGuinty has their best interests at heart.

What McGuinty doesn't inform us about his plan is that the Green Shift has admin costs of 25% that is a lot of coin on $40 BILLION DOLLARS.

Revenue neutral is a blatant misrepresentation.




David H
said

Just more intellectual dishonestly from Harper and his lackeys.


HNL Montreal
said

So there we go again.The libs have a lot of time on their hands, trying to dig dirt and more dirt, from the hidden agenda, Bush's cronie, scary etc. No wonder I switched party and it will be a long long time before I vote Lib, before they take the speck in the eyes of their opponent, take the plank out of yours,oops that's from the bible is it not, sorry i'm bad, bad, bad. Harper for a majority
s


James from Whitby
said

In regards to whether Harper is the hapless victim of an over-zealous speech writer, or not, and should or should not be held accountable for any acts of plagiarism committed on his behalf, may not be relevant political discourse.

However, the company one keeps speaks volumes about one's character (or in this case one's political party).


David from Alberta
said

I have one question: You say you voted today for the PC and you voted for a party without announcing any platform for when they are elected! Does this mean, when Harper is elected you want him to do whatever he wants with your tax dollars? How can you vote as when they announce that he will not raise taxes, did you see his eyes shift? People wake up, we have no politicians and the best we can do is give them a tie or not show up! If no one shows up then they will have to work together to rule this country and learn to get along! I can't vote until I at least see all the party platforms and so far the pc have none! If you elect them they can do whatever they want... hope you enjoy the next 4 years... Oh a cow could run in Alberta as a pc and win...


Rob in Cornwall
said

If you had your intellectual property stolen from you even after 5 years ,you are trying to lead us to believe it would not matter?
Oh yes I forgot,there aren't many intellectuals on the right.


MR from Mississauga
said

Are these Liberals for real? Going into the stretch run, and the best they can do is another 5 year old speech?

Tell us about that ground breaking and cutting edge plan instead. You know, the one where you're going to talk to people for 30 days. Economists around the world must be slapping themsleves for not figuring it out sooner.


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