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Date: Sun. Oct. 5 2008 10:56 AM ET

As European leaders called Saturday for an emergency G8 summit amid growing fears of a deep global recession, Conservative Leader Stephen Harper was again battered by opposition leaders who accused him of having no economic plan.

During a campaign stop in the Maritimes, the Liberals' Stephane Dion said Harper was out of touch and accused him of living in "a bubble."

"But we don't need a prime minister in a bubble," Dion said, adding that Harper has been callous about domestic job losses and a domestic economic slowdown.

"We need a prime minister with the people, fighting for the good jobs of this country."

The renewed rhetoric over which leader would better navigate treacherous economic waters comes a day after the U.S. passed into law an unprecedented, $US700 billion aid package for Wall Street's reeling financial services industry.

European leaders, meeting in Paris Saturday, have also been jolted into action by falling stock prices and withering credit markets.

Dion also unleashed an attack on the NDP, who have been gaining on the Liberals in the race for second place during the run-up to the Oct. 14 election.

"If you are worried about your job then think twice about voting for Jack Layton because right now, the only job a vote for the NDP will save is Stephen Harper's job."

While Dion vowed to meet with economists and present a mini-budget within 30 days of the election, Harper maintained that despite a dire situation elsewhere, Canada's economic fundamentals remained on relatively solid ground.

Speaking to reporters in Yarmouth, N.S. -- where he unveiled plans to restore a $300 million fund for regional development -- Harper said it was important for Canadian leaders to stay calm.

"I'm not saying we're immune from this. But we're not in deficit, we're not in recession and we're not losing jobs, and we're not panicking,"

Harper added that his government warned of an economic slowdown more than a year ago, and he has stressed that stiffer regulations have prevented Canadian banks from falling into a U.S.-style meltdown.

Harper also hit back at Dion and said the Liberal leader's economic plan could lead to disaster.

"At a time of economic uncertainty the opposition proposes massive increases in spending that would lead to a deficit, higher taxes that would kill jobs and investments, a carbon tax that would raise prices and a promise to spend 30 days developing a plan only after they are elected," Harper said.

"That is an approach which would take us into recession, not avoid one."

The NDP's Jack Layton also used a campaign stop in the Maritimes Saturday to attack the Conservatives' economic record, saying that Harper has done little to protect Canadian jobs from migrating to other countries.

"We've got shipyards here in Halifax or in B.C. or in Quebec that can get the job done right, but Stephen Harper clearly doesn't care," Layton said in Halifax.

In Montreal, Bloc Quebecois Leader Gilles Duceppe said that a Conservative minority government, though unstable in Parliament, would be better for Canada in during times of economic uncertainty.

Duceppe also warned Quebecers that Harper supports the kind of economic policies which led to the current financial meltdown in the U.S.

With files from The Canadian Press


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Ryan P.
said

I'm quite confident in the Liberal leaders plan for an economic slow down.....slow it down faster with a crazy Carbon Tax that most Canadians don't want.

This campaign is over, the only question is whether enough people will realize that a vote against Harper means we are all back at this in two years or less.


Kevin F
said

The Atlantic Accord is very important and so are Harper's broken promises on equaliziation. Unfortunately they don't make much headlines because they were in the past.

I don't understand why the media will not post polls that now show the Liberals within only 5 points of the Conservatives and Dion's #'s for Best PM right near Harper. That's not breaking news, but when the Liberals slip there'a s headline. It's ridiculous!


Mike
said

It's simple who to choose here, Harper lied to Newfoundland, he got caught. You don't have to vote for either liberal or conservative there are alternatives. I for one don't want harper because of what he did to atlantic canada, I don't understand why people are overlooking his promise to NovaScotia and NewFoundLand.



Nancy
said

The Green Shift would kill our economy it is the most dangerous wreckless plan ever, and an embarassment to the new Liberal Party.

Everybody is better off under Harper. I like low taxes and surpluses and the Job growth.


proud conservative
said

The other parties are desperate to prevent a majority government now. It is too bad that people can't see how much better off we would be with Harper. It is pretty depressing sometimes.Another 18 months of threatining to bring down the government and preventing anything from getting done.Not for the good of the country though,just for the good of the party.


No more taxes for all Canadians
said

The last thing the economy needs right now is a tax and spend government. This is the type of government that the Liberals, NDP and the Greens want. Dion's Carbon Tax will hurt all industries and all regions of Canada and also won't do anything to help the environment as the companies taxed will just pass the tax on to the consumer.

I am tired of paying high taxes and seeing huge surpluses by the government. Government's role is not to make huge profits - its to govern.
I am tired of hearing that the Conservatives don't have a platform. From my perspective it looks like they do: continue what they were doing when they were in office: lower taxes for everybody (not just the corporations that the NDP claim), responsible government spending, pay down the national debt (look at Alberta, no provincial debt and the economy is still strong).


Bev
said

I understand the so-called 'rally' that Mr. Dion was at in Dieppe was a stop at the Dieppe Market. Nothing was organized. He thought he might have a captive audience with those who attend the Market on a weekly basis. Whereas with the real rally with the Prime Minister, grassroots volunteers have been working hard to prepare for his visit. It shows that the Conservatives are a party for the ordinary Canadians who are pleased with with thier leader, and who is doing a great job for Canadians.


Dan
said

I listened to both Harper and Dion this moorning in Atlantic Canada. Haper's plan is much more sound. Dion's only wants to react, I don't see a plan. All I heard was words likt "crisis" from Dion. He does not get it, Canada is not the US. The Liberals have gone ito fear mongering mode. This has seemed to be thei plan for the last three elections.

This time we can't buy in.

[X] Harper


K. Johnston
said

I just watched S. Dion in NB and he just said "kitchen table" and the exact same thing Jack just said up north this am. So from these remarks, and the money they are promising to spend, can we please all agree that the Liberals have never had a platform and tax belief system so far to the LEFT?
The Gang of 4 will tax us too much.




Wayne
said

The only economic crisis Canadians have to worry about
is if the Liberals form goverment. It is time for the Tories to take the reins.


Belinda Rae
said

The Liberal Party is just left over retreads from other parties.


Prof. Pye Chartt
said

Dion continually hammers away at the notion that HE is the man with an economic plan; however, other than a punitive carbon tax (which is easily discredited on its alleged merits and by way of European example), he has no substantive details to offer up.

We're just supposed to "trust" that the Liberals will figure something out AFTER being elected. Yeah; I don't think so.

Other than basic income redistribution through engineered taxation, and a pile of worthless social spending to make it palatable to the folks in the crowd who love "free" things from government, Dion and the Liberals are already bankrupt as far as any economic plan goes.


Marcelliss from Montreal
said

It strikes me as odd that Dion seems to be in denial of the fact that he is getting crushed in this election. It wouldn't hurt if he learned to speak clear english, and I'm from Montreal so I am use to hearing people speak english with a French accent but event I can't understand some of the words he is using in English!
Harper appears to be the least risk.
Layton would expand the government and destroy the economy.


Ontario Taxpayer
said

This "Harper lied to Newfoundland" line is getting old and not selling with the taxpayers of the have provinces. What make NL so special that they get to keep all of MY hard earned money that goes up the tax chute as well s all the billions from their oil revenues. I fully support what Harper did, and Danny Williams is a greedy little egomaniac blowhard. If we can't keep my Ontario tax dollars in Ontario, I want the feds to at least give these dollars to a province that really needs them...perhaps one without billions of oil dollars coming in!


Jay From The West
said

We all know how much Harper wants to be an American, after all he lives in the State of Denial.

The good ship Majority has left the docks. And if Harper can't deliver a majority now shouldn't his leadership be questioned?


Bob NS
said

I hope the Atlantic Provinces will rally to the Conservatives trend and have a real voice in Ottawa.
The Conservative Platform is already in place and working good for Canada and our economy despite the shenanigan tactics of the opposition


JP
said

@Ryan P.

I, for one, am all for voting again in another 2 years if it means another chance to get rid of Stephen Harper. I'll vote every damn day to get rid of him. He cannot be trusted. Don't be fooled.


Mike
said

I couldn't help but laugh when one of the headlines on this site yesterday said that Paul Martin was hitting the campaign to help out. That's hilarious - get Dithers to join your team of misfits, along with Bob 'Mr. I-screwed-up-Ontario' Rae, David 'it's my brother's turn to screw up Ontario' McGuinty (author of the dumbest platform ever), and Michael 'I know I've been in the states for the last 20 years, but I'm Canadian...really!' Ignatieff. And THIS is the so-called 'Dream Team?'

Steve...here's the keys back, along with several new ones that the opposition won't be needing.


JP
said

@Belinda Rae

That's really funny because, you know, the current conservative party is the remains of 3 parties. At least one of which was the political bottom of the barrel.
It is this simple. The current conservative party does not in any way stand for, represent or even understand ALL of Canada.
They don't even try. The only thing Harper is leading is everyone around by the nose.


Joe
said

Maritimers won't be fooled by Harper's deception.


Jack - AB
said

Harper does not apply sound economic principles. I know because one of my degrees is in Economics. The economy has slowed down and soon you'll see deficits because Harper has balanced the budget and removed the surplus. Harper's goal is to reach the lowest taxes by minimal government - that means: deregulation, privatization, not paying off debt, etc., etc.

I get tired of people saying they are overtaxed because of the big surpluses the government was bringing in & using to pay down the debt. Trudeau & Mulroney ran huge deficits that were added to the national debt and this was for the benefit of the baby boomers. This generation will retire in 10 to 15 years and their debt will just get passed along to future generations - not fair or responsible! Surpluses are needed to pay off most or part of the debt brought in during the baby boomer era.


Doug BC
said

Big spending increases and higher taxes are well know economy killers.I thik voters need to be very suspicious of ANY party promising a litany of new "free" social programs.
"Kevin F" does make a point about equalization.What he fails to point out is the role of the provinces in setting the structure and the way payment formulas are established.Getting a few provinces to agree a anything is a challenge for ANY prime minister.And the Allantic accord was a Martin debacle that left the so called "have" provinces wondering why their citzens should continue paying taxes to support "have not" provinces AFTER they reached a level of economic prosperity.In BC,most of us favour Mr.Harpers decision.
I have only two fears about this election.While I am concerned about some of Harpers ideology,I fear a return to Liberal corruption a lot more.
And finally,I fear we will be living in a very divided country after the vote.The real debate is about more socialism offered by the Liberals(aka NDP Lite),or a conservative approach offered by the Conservatives.
I think Harper is a bit to far right.But I am sure we will not see a party near the political centre if we put Liberals back in.They need to kick the socialists out of their party,and get te the centre.And they better find the centre before Mr.Harper gets there first.He has already stated he recognizes the need of his party to move in that direction.


FCS
said

Dion has a plan, it's called the Green Shift. He doesn't talk about it much anymore, but it used to be a big deal. I'm sure it would do wonders for the economy. Besides my job sucks, I want one of those new green jobs Layton and Dion keep talking about. They sound nice even though I have no idea what in hell a green job is, but then again they probably don't either.


Paul B
said

The PM did in fact break the Atlantic Accord. It was part of the change in equalization payments to all provinces/territories.

What you will never hear or see reported is the fact Danny William's signed onto the new deal, and becuase of that Newfoundland/Labrador is hundreds of millions richer in payments, as are all provinces/territories.


Stewardship is now with the Conservatives
said

The Liberals tax plan to slow our economy down and pull it into a recession just doesn't make any common sense.

"Stephane WE didn't get the job done"

...and they still aren't getting it done.

Traditional Liberal supporters need to come to terms with reality that their party hasn't been doing such a great job this last decade with scandals, out of spending programs and adscam scandals.
They spent most of their time on retaining power and not enough of being good stewards of our country.

Time for a change to the Conservatives.




Paul - Orillia
said

Seems many Canadians will be fooled by the Cons.

Sad, very very sad what marketing and propaganda has done to Canada.


Marc Coquitlam B.C.
said

Of couse they are in Atlantic Canada. Our local newspaper ads from the Conservatives are attacks on N.D.P. now. No more dorky Dion pictures. The Liberal party is seemingly irrelevent here in New Westminster-Coquitlam riding. No point campaigning here anymore, as not likely to win.


Dd
said

I wonder if Harper will be coming back to Newfoundland. All he's done is a quick in and out to Harbour Grace (or is it Grace Harbour?).

I challenge him to pre-announce a campaign stop in St. John's. Tell everyone where he will be and when and see the turnout. Are you a leader or a coward, Steve????

ABC


Ian- Alberta
said

Tory times are tough times.. or so the saying goes. History proves this as well. Mulroney = Recession; Harper in power = recession as well. That's okay though. I will survive economic hardship and emerging peak oil. All the rural voters who support Harper will not. It's like the republican supporters in the states. They are so bent and twisted around their ideologies and religion that they don't see the fact that a vote for the republican party is a vote to keep them poor. Also; as its largely the aged that support the conservatives us younger folks need to take it cause we are outnumbered by the geriatrics. But; as in all things in nature that will change. The geriatrics don't know what's best cause it's their policies that got us here. The young people have the answer; its just that the older in general don't want to hear it. Maybe because it's like a computer... they fear what they DO NOT understand.


Tmoney.
said

"Maritimers won't be fooled by Harper's deception."

Oh yeah those Maritimers are known for thier shrewdness. They will vote for whoever stuffs more money in thier pockets or paves the road in thier town before the election.Just like always. It's a tradition.


Maritimer
said

"Joe" speak for yourself I'm a Maritimer and I'm voting Conservative all the way!!!


GO HARPER GO


Richard from Ontario
said

If you folks from the Maritimes, especially from NL think Harper is bad, try puttting the Liberals or NDP in power and watch as they tax the life out of the Oil industry and make your income drop right off the map.. Keep in mind Danny Williams doesn't like any Federal government... If you don't want to have to go to the West to work,,, better vote for Steven Harper.


Fool me twice shame on you!
said

Joe:
"Maritimers won't be fooled by Harper's deception."

Actually Joe, the Maritimers have been getting fooled for the last 40 years by Liberal deceptions and election handouts and you still haven't figured that one out yet.

A little more pain and I'm confident you will figure it out that you have been hoodwinked.





E Davis
said

My primary hope of the debates was to hear each leaders Platform.

My secondary objective was to listen to the arguements of each of those for / against those platforms.

Today is advance polling day - yet - with no Cons. Platform to review I cannot in good judgement vote for them.

Sure the strategy is sound - don't release one until the last minute so other parties don't attack it... but Harper should of released it right after the Debates if that was his goal.

Now, with the advance poll today I will have to pick one of the other parties just because I do not know the Cons. views.

Harper wants us to vote for him to give him a 'strong mandate' to run the economy - yet - he presents no mandate for us to vote for? That - is not good governing policy.

I realise Harper tries his best to keep the press at bay, lock down his party from talking so as not to mess up, amd keep everything a secret so they can't 'goof up'... but no platform today = no vote today.

As a unjudgemental vote - he may have gotten my vote, but now he can't have it. I'm afrad what many have been saying about his 'stealth taticts' are true... you cannot trust his party because he doesn't tell the voting public - we the people he works for... what his party is doing.

As for what party gets my vote, once I finish my review of other party platforms, then one of them will get my vote.


Harper IS on the right track
said

Jack AB:
"Surpluses are needed to pay off most or part of the debt brought in during the baby boomer era."

Exactly Jack which is why Harper paid down $38 BILLION off our national debt which reduces interest payments and lowers the tax burden and risk to deficits - Economics 101 Sir George Williams University 1971.





Joshua from Vancouver
said

It is unbelievable how many neo-conservative pro-Harper people post comments here. Are you getting paid by the conservatives or are you just campaign volunteers? The reason the Conservatives haven't released their party platform is because it will show how economically unsound the party actually is. If you understand economics and the liberal platform it would be clear to you that it is a storng economic policy that most reputable economist agree with.


Atlantic Canada Sees Sense!
said

If there is one thing you can say about Atlantic Canadians, it is that they have historically been the wise ones in choosing their MPs. They're not fooled by the Reform boys camouflaged in blue sweaters. Let's go Liberal all the way again, folks, and show Canada that at least some of us have common sense!


nc in alberta
said

I don't understand what "plan" people are talking about when referring to Harper.

All I've seen are numerous reactive spending promises since before the election was even called.

The most recent example is his swift $75.00 "gimme" (the actual amount of tax you will save if you are able to use the entire $500 nonrefundable tax credit) for parents putting their children into arts programs immediately after taking heat for saying ordinary Canadians don't care about the arts.

Even when good ideas have been presented such as modifications to how we deal with young and violent offenders there is no talk about an actual plan or how of much the new process will cost taxpayers.

I don't see this as planning, I see this as pandering.

This is the biggest problem from my perspective as an uncomitted voter.

I don't see the Conservative party or it's leader as being truly concerned with anything beyond getting elected and I certainly don't see them as a hands down superior choice compared to the other parties.



shelley
said

Oh my God, what a bunch of fools you are. Have any of you read the Green Shift? Doubt it. You just listen to your CON party. Where do you think Mr. Harper is going to get the money for all his promises? Oh thats right, he has that surplus from the Libs, that he is exhausting. I have a memory and I know how to read,so I apply logic when I cast my vote for the Liberals. Mr Harper has not only managed to manipulate his candidates, he has managed to manipulate some voters too! Quite sad actually.


phauser
said

I wonder how this election is viewed ten years back?

Mulroney, Chretien, Rae, and Harris have one thing in common. They all got elected at least in part as a protest of the existing regime.

They also managed to take credit for all successes while placing blame on their predecessors for a time.

Wouldn't we be better off if we voted FOR something once in a while and not against something?

The governments of Pierre Trudeau and Bill Davis defined Canada and Ontario in their day. We need that kind of government where the winner has the respect if not the support of the other parties.

The rhetoric and divisiveness since the Chretien days are not productive. We need a strong national government not a minority propped up by it's enemies.

I'm not saying vote Harper (though that is my choice)

What I am saying is vote for The Liberals or NDP if you BELIEVE in them. Greens and Bloc are how you protest but to me everyone should be able to see something in the three main parties that they can believe in.

After this election you can get off your butt and join one of these parties at the local level and attend the meetings, get involved in the policy debates and move forward.

For now, find something to vote for as against. Look at all three parties that can make a difference and pick one. Just look at all three with equal skepticism.


Only one responsible choice
said

"Sad, very very sad what marketing and propaganda has done to Canada".

I agree, Canadians have bought the Liberal party spin for decades while the Liberals stole us blind and used our own money each election to buy our votes.

"We voters weren't very smart ... WE didn't get the job done".

THIS TIME... I'm voting Conservative.



J.C.
said

To Kevin F and Mike: Look up the facts of the offer and not just your Premier Danny Williams comments about it. There was choice offered to Danny but he was "greedy" and wanted both. Now that he could not have his own way, he is trying to tell Newfoundlers how to vote. In democracy you do not tell people how to vote! They have to make up their own minds and the premiere of your province is not acting as he should in a democratic society!! Use your own head when you vote, and not those who tell you how to vote. Vote what you think is best in parliament for the possible harsh times that may be coming.


Gram from Provencher
said

Conservatives full of hot air on economy

quote “The Conservative platform is built on clear, affordable, practical and believable commitments to support Canada’s economy”

Now here in Provencher I have found gas at 50 cents per liter

Makes just as much sense... more hot air

That is why I am voting for a liberal team player ,Dr. Shirley Hiebert, in Provencher to help protect our farm economy in the coming economic downturn.



Linda in Vancouver
said

I'm still hoping for a Harper majority.Not because I am a Conservative,or because I think he has all the right answers. But even as a Liberal, I don't see how anyone can deny he is the best option available.

The NDP can't win, and the Liberals are just a bunch of NDPers in drag. Conservatives are really the only option if you are not an extreme left wing freeloader looking for more "free" programs from they taxpayer.

In BC provincial politics we have only two viable patries to vote for. The only way to get rid of the governing party is to vote in the NDP. Who, on every single occassion, proceeded to decimate our economy. But that is still the price we have to pay to remove an arrogant and devious free enterprise government in power.

Federal Liberals look like they learned nothing from being ousted in the last election. It seems they have to be decimated before they get the message and rebuild themselves as a party less addicted to the socialist agenda,but less conservative on social issues than Mr. Harper. If I wanted socialists I would vote NDP.

In BC,provincial Liberals are also wearing a bit thin with voters. In large part because of the "carbon tax" they imposed. But they are still less socialist than their federal namesakes.It will be a tough choice for us in the spring. Socialism and incompetence with the NDP or an arrogant,out of touch Liberal party for another four years.

I will NEVER vote for more socialism in Canada.I have seen the devastation it has had in BC.I want better than that for my country.

And "NO". A return to eastern domination of the west is NOT an option for me. You are welcome to socialism if you want it. Just leave us to our choices. Lower taxes, lower debt, and fewer criminals.


proud conservative
said

You know Ian in Alberta , you should know that every generation has thought the same thing about their parents and older people. It has never changed and never will. Although this generation certainly thinks the world owes them everything. I guess we can blame that on ourselves because we had the money to do it and our parents did not. So keep thinking the present young are the saviours of the world because soon enough you will be old and looking at your kids and wondering why they are blaming you for all the ills of the world


Jim Lake
said

I don't know how so many Canadians can feel that Harper is the right choice. Every idea he has is in line with the American’s way of governing. He gives 35 billion dollars in tax cuts to corporations and cuts social services to cover it. People are excited with our 2% tax break while the large tax cuts are given to the rich. He wanted to send Canada to Iraq. He hasn't even released a platform yet. He deals with crime by sending more people to jail, while studies have proved this doesn't fight crime. It creates hardened criminals. People need to open their eyes to Harper’s right wing agenda. I always thought Canadians had more intelligent principles than Americans but I'm starting to wonder. This country was built by Pierre Trudeau and the Liberals.


DCR-Toronto
said

Dion looked like a scared little boy this morning when the media questioned why he is staying in "safe" ridings. He avoided the question over and over. He is barely hanging on to the few true safe seats the Liberals have. The bottom line is that a new tax is not revenue neutral. Why impose it to begin with?

When the Liberals speak of "revenue neutral", it means he will give most of it back to the people, but not in a monetary sense. It will fund programs which the Liberals say is giving it back to us. If you want to pay higher prices on everything, vote Liberal. To say that they are taxing the businesses is the truth. But where do you think the businesses are going to make up for that loss? Me and you!

Harper is the steady hand we need. This country needs a majority to move or we will have gridlock for years.


The
said

The NDP's "New Strong" is more like the "New Neurotic Party"
Pot heads, drug users and wing nuts abound.
Look into the eyes of Layton....the guy has lost it. Apart from his delusions of granduer, he really doesn't look stable.

Somebody in Atlantic Canada take this guy fishing please. He needs a break.



John in Calgary
said

Come on people, Dion is NOT the way to go here. He and his Liberals have always looked at Canada as second to the U.S. and that is not right. We deserve better then having any leader that will only settle for the scraps of any other nation.

Harper has always fought for Canada to be on top. And he has fought for each province to do better. Harper knows how the economy works and he knows you can't jump in and go green over night. At first I thought his 2050 goals were too long as well, but then I started taking some economics courses and came to realize that you can't force the issue.

Everybody needs to realize that Harper's conservatives are not Mulroney's conservatives. Lets see what he does with four years as a majority. Can't be worse than another 3 years with a minority government, where nothing gets done. We need a party in power that will be able to make quick decisions about the economy, not one that has to fight with the opposition, as the economy takes a slide.


Warren H.
said

When are you people from Atlantic Canada especially Newfoundland going to get your head out of your butt and figure out that the Liberals have never given you anything but hope. Vote for what is right and not just vote against someone because the other parties are desperate and will say anything against them, vote for the Conservatives.


T.Griffiths
said

Atlantic Canada needs Dion as PM lke a whole in the head, just when NF & NS get a shot at some real development along comes the liberals to kill it,so the liberals can keep atlantic Canada dependent on goverment hand outs so they can come along every 4 years and tell them how they need the liberals to save them. People in Atlantic Canada need to vote in a solid Harper goverment that will help support development not stop it before it gets a chance to get going,and in so doing maybe people such as my self can return home and leave this western life behind.
T.Griffiths
Ship HR
NF & Lab


Ken
said

While I have voted Liberal in the past, I don't at all feel confident in Stephane Dion.

But at the same token, Harper's views on and cuts to the country's Arts programs is shocking.

NDP - you got yourselves a new supporter.


Winston said it best
said

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery."
- Winston Churchill

Canada is on the slippery slope towards socialism with the departure of traditional Liberals following Dion into the socialist camp.

"There is no such thing as a good tax. "
- Winston Churchill



Herb
said

I'm amazed at how naive conservatives are. The Harper regime has been cruising, with diminishing returns, on the economic health left by the liberals. The Harper policies conflict with economists worldwide. His style of leadership is divisive and unhealthy for the country. Even in the US, the extreme right is on it's way out. Harper has no plan, because if he did, we would have seen specifics by now. Open your eyes and get real. Vote ABC.


Pat
said

Harper staff writers are still reviewing which past PM speech plan they can copy..trust Harper with a majority.. good bye Canada..


Bluenose
said

@Atlantic Canada Sees Sense

I would like to make the point that Atlantic Canada usually votes "Stupid" in elections, doing just what you say, by electing a opposition party, when the other is in Majority in Ottawa, thereby cutting their nose off to spite their faces. The corruption we've seen by the likes of existing Liberal MP's in SW Nova, and the downright fraud he committed in his scheme with Federally owned wharves in Digby etc. , should certainly be a strong decision maker for voters I hope. Scott Brison has far too long of a free ride in Kings Hants. Nova Scotia has become a have-not province, with low payrolls, dying towns etc. It's time for Nova Scotia to vote "Smart", and vote for Stephen Harper. We've suffered enough from having Liberals as our MP's. Toss the Liberals out, and strengthen our province, with a Conservative Gov't for Nova Scotia.


Tommies
said

For those of you talking about the Maritimers sticking with the Libs-I know for a fact in this riding of Miramichi, probably the safest Lib seat in Canada: fasten your seatbelts there's real momentum here for the Tory candidate.


Lee in Calgary
said

Dear Jack in Alberta,

You really need to get your money back for your degree. The latest economic statement tells us that Canada is currently running a 2.7 Billion dollar surplus as of the end of July 2007 and that the Canadian economy has stabilized and grown for 5 of the 7 months counted so far. The Harper government has applied every surplus penny to the debt and then used the interest saved to provide increased services.

A small surplus is a good thing to continue to pay down the debit but those years of 13 billion dollar surplus' should never again happen as that is flat out over taxation. The Liberals got greedy and began enjoying those large numbers and promoting them as signs of good governance the Conservatives have put balance back into place and for that they have earned my vote this time around.


Maynard
said

Wasn't the Conservative who gave $880 Million to Nova Scotia


Jay, Ottawa
said

Linda said, 'Conservatives are really the only option if you are not an extreme left wing freeloader looking for more "free" programs from they taxpayer.'

A little dramatic no?

Here's what I don't like about the Conservatives and why I can't decide how to vote.
(1) Flaherty left a mess in Ontario and tried to hide a deficit by selling a highway. Is he doing the same again? Are we only in the black because of the wireless auction? I'd prefer an income tax cut over GST cuts. All the little things I bought went up in price after the GST cuts. I don't think I've saved more than a few dollars. The move didn't buy my vote either like they hoped so what was the point?
(2) Often when conservative-leaning politicians implement a "get tough" policy it backfires. Like the Wars on Drugs. Drug use went up. We're in a good position because crime has been going down since the 90s. So will the problem area of gang violence get better or worse when Conservatives "get tough"? We need to figure out how to prevent the crime, not just punish it. Even with an extra few months on a sentence there is likely still a victim.
(3) It's time to start living greener. Germany decided to invest in solar energy technology many years ago and now is a world leader. Where is our leadership that is going to take us in that direction? It's not Harper.
(4) As evidenced by these forums the Conservatives are using Divide and Conquer politics to made EVERYTHING a divisive issue. To made progress on any of issues 1,2 or 3 we need to work together as a nation.


Karen
said

With the attacks on Saskatchewan and Alberta at the debate the other night. Maybe the real debate is whether we should seperate or not. Leave the east to themselves. Then lets see who is actually keeping afloat. More and more of us are thinking this way.


J.C.
said

Some keep bringing up the "Harris" government of Ontario. Please note that before his time the Conservatives were in power in Ontario under Davis and prior to him for about 50 years. During that time Ontario bloomed, so if your going to mention conservatives in Ontario then at least look at the whole picture under Conservative rule, and not just the times that Harris was in power. Vote for whoever you think would be best.

Leaders play an important role in government but so too does the backroom.

I don't see the need for Harper to lay out a plan as he has stated many times that he will follow on the course he has taken since his last election which laid out his plan thoroughly. Go back and look it up if you have questions regarding "his plan". Albeit it likely would have been better for him to have repeated it during this election time since he is insisting to stay the course. Personally I find his party to be more centralist then they used to be. I find the Liberals seem to be leaning more left than their party used to be.

I think the biggest con political artist was Trudeau when he took down Joe Clark's minority government with the promise of not raising the price of oil and then almost doubled the price when he got voted in by those who believed him at the time and put this country into deep deficit. I am sorry that Joe Clark did not get in as I was not taken in by Treadeau at the time. Promises, Promises. Check the facts please!! Vote wisely.


Jack - AB
said

"Exactly Jack which is why Harper paid down $38 BILLION off our national debt which reduces interest payments and lowers the tax burden and risk to deficits."

Yes, Harper did pay down debt with the big surpluses he inherited from the Liberal run government before his came into power. Thanks goes to the Liberals for leaving behind a system that allowed surpluses. In 2 1/2 years Harper has managed to get rid of almost all the surpluses and will not be able to pay off anymore debt in the coming years or even have money for new spending ( and may even cut back on social programs ). He very likely will run into deficits in the coming year and add back to the debt. But then why should people care about paying off their debt when they can just pass it along for others to pay off for them??

The Liberals ran large surpluses because they realize the debt had to be reduced before baby boomers retire. Harper wants a balanced budget, with very low taxation, which means no or little debt reduction and may even add to debt during economic slowdown or recession.


Kevin in Toronto
said

Hey Jack in AB -

Debt repayment is supposed to designated in the budget.
There's never any need to ever run a massive surplus. Paying down the debt or not. Debt repayment is part of your budget.

People should know where their money is going before it's taken.


Jean Pierre - An Acadian in BC
said

To all you bleeeding hearts Conservatives who belevie Harper - I really feel sorry for you -
Look at what he has dont - The country is in a mess- He sest a fixed election date and BREAKS his own law, He is a control freak-
As a former Maritimer - I am sure the Alantic province will NOT give Harper a majority, COME ON PEOPLE
Smell the coffee before Harper put a tax on it.
If he get a majority - he will bring Canada down the same road his Buddy G BUSH has done to USA.
so on OCT 14 - remember your ABC's -
ANYONE BUT CONSERATIVE


DanBC
said

What this country doesn't need, in times of economic uncertainty, is a party with excessive spending plans and excessive increases in taxation. That is what the Liberals, NDP, and Greenies promise, with a smile on their face, and a pandering appeal.

The accusation that the Tories have no plan is silly. The plan is what they already doing, which is their record of governance, of reducing taxes. Perfect? No, but certainly far less interventionist, than what all the other lefty parties, Liberals included, are threatening to do. This country will be in desperate economic straights if the Liberals gained power and decided to overtax everybody with their fraudulent carbon tax. Can you say Liberal Slush Fund?


Frank
said

I would like to ask each person on here how they are preparing for the troubled economic times ahead. Are you planning massive new spending changes, running to the bank to borrow large sums of money or asking all of your friends to give you some of there money and promising to look after them in the times ahead. Or are you being carefull watching what you send money on and waiting to see how it will effect your finances. Compare your personal approach to the main parties and see who has the best plan. Harper is not flashy and lacks the charisma of Hollywood Layton, but he is proposing sound judgment. It remains to be seen what he can do in the way of directed spending to help troubled sectors, but at least he isn't promising the moon.


Dick Varley
said

To Jack-AB

What school of economics from outer space did you attend. Production is the strength of any economy. Government, social programs and the service industries do not create production. Trudeau in particular created a forty-eight billion dollar debt which became the most significant part of this countries deficit. He did this by introducing more centralized government and increased social spending. Martin and Chretien played hocus pocus with the economy by forcing federal deficit financing onto the provinces. Mulroney increased the deficit by roughly fifteen percent but largely due to the necessity of making a transition from the Trudeau era. Mulroney brought in NAFTA and other programs to strengthen industrial development.

Further. the present fiasco in the USA has many root causes. However, the major one is that the Americans and many other countries bought into the Keynesian theory that money had value in its own right. This has proven to be nonsense as we have decades of rabid inflation and the collapse of banking systems and huge losses in the market where margins are the call of the day.

The current Conservative government economic plan is an attempt to get back to the basics while maintaining a certain quality of life. More social spending and higher taxes will not achieve this objective. And, by the way, the Harper government has paid down more federal debt in two and half years than the Liberals ever did. Remember the Liberals addressed deficit spending by passing it onto the provinces. They did not address the debt.


Dan
said

CTV

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Thanks...


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The atlantic Accord - a liberal vote buying scheme
said

Ok enough of this garbage on breaking a promise to Newfoundland. Newfoundland wanted its cake and it wanted to eat it too. Ok folks the issue:

Off shore resources are the domain of the FEDERAL Government NOT the province. It is in the Constitution the Law of this country. We can think it is wrong or not like it but it is the LAW. The founding fathers only looked at fish as ocean resources and never thought of oil under the sea. So Newfoundland got to keep the offshore resources counter to the constitution.

Second. Once they got the revenues from the off shore resources they did not want the BILLIONS of dollars to count toward the province's finances when calculating the tranfer payments from Ottawa. So Newfoundland wanted the oil money PLUS transfer payment from the feds (read Ontario).

Ya great for Newfoundland but bad for the other provinces in the country. So the RIGHT thing to do was to tell Newfoundland that you are, or will be, a have province and it is your turn now to put back into confederation!!!.

Danny has been arogant and two faced in the whole arguement. Now announcing Newfoundland wants to be a have province and help support Ontario. Load of crap! What he wanted was the oil money PLUS the transfer payments.

The role of the Fed government is to do what is RIGHT FOR THE COUNTRY, not to buy votes in one province for their own political gain. The LIBERALS wrote the Atlantic Accord to buy votes in Alantic Canada. Harpers fault was to agree to keep such an outrageous accord. Once in Power he realized it was nothing more than a vote buying scheme. SO he ended it.


cory antonini
said

Can someone please make me understand how any intelligent supporter of democracy can support Stephen Harper (I am talking about him, not his party). Before you accuse me of being regional biased of partisan, note that I have voted across the spectrum, grew up in Sask, lived in BC, Ontario, USA, England and Japan). Please, for just a moment, put aside all your party leanings, all the party platforms and consider the following:

Stephen Harper a person who refuses to take questions from the public, and he will not let his MPs speak to anyone without approving the message. His first move last election was to remove the media from the “scrum” after a parliamentary session. Instead, he set up a media room in which only pre-approved questions can be asked (US Rep. Method). He has refused all media appearance in which the general public can ask questions.

The role of the free media is to ensure that anything parliament does/decides can be questioned by you, the public—you, the employee of these people who we have elected to represent us. Would you hire an employee that refuses to answer your questions? That is what is happening, folks. We are about to lose the cornerstone of democracy. In a democracy the media ARE our eyes and ears in Ottawa, so by removing the media, he has blinded and muted us, Canadians. He is making himself and his party untouchable by the people.

Remember, counties do not lose democracy over night. It is eroded, slowly and secretly, step by step—Harper has already made the first step. Others have learned this lesson the hard way—control the media message and you will control the people. Take a look at China, Cuba, USSR, Bush’s USA (don’t stop there—look to history for more shocking examples). His next step will be to get rid of the voice of dissent (look at the cuts to arts and culture).
This is very serious, fellow Canadians.

Please consider the power we will give up by electing Stephen Harper. Let us not fail to heed the warnings. Vote for the party that you feel is the most democratic—your choice.



Hunter Mars
said

Deeply delusional anyone who thinks Harpo is the answer to our economic crisis .

This is the fool who wiped out thirty five billion dollars of Canadians savings with his lie about Income Trusts.

He is running on no platform other than some nifty ads of him wearing a blue sweater trying to soften his bully boy image.

Tea,Harpo is the perfect answer to seventeenth century economics.

F.C.
said

"It is unbelievable how many neo-conservative pro-Harper people post comments here. Are you getting paid by the conservatives or are you just campaign volunteers? "

I know it's hard to believe people have opinions other than your own, it's always been hard for Liberals to understand others opinions. That's why they have catchy names like "neo-con" handy to try and insult others with. Fortunetely I do not care.

As an adult I realize that people might not always agree with my views and that's fine. I don't feel the need to tell peple to "wake up" or call them "fools". I accept it and move on. The Liberals on this forum are like a bunch of children who just realized they aren't going to get thier toy and are determined to moan and cry as much as possible. Frankly, it's pathetic.


Spare me
said

"I wonder if Harper will be coming back to Newfoundland. All he's done is a quick in and out to Harbour Grace (or is it Grace Harbour?)."

Why would anyone go to NFLD. ? I thought people only left.


david
said

Under Dion we all will see more movies and sing more songs. We won't be able to afford movies when his new "green-shaft" is implemented. They are obviously a desperate party now, wasting time loking for old speeches. Disgusting


JC Kelan (Amherst, NS)
said

The Liberals as economic managers? Now?

Dion is not Chretien. Martin is gone. Manley is gone. Anyone with an iota of economic sense is gone.

The Liberals are left with a couple of left-wing professors and a failed NDP premier.


DM in SK
said

Does anyone realize that their $1,350 refundable tax credit to offset higher energy costs only amounts to $202.50 in real dollars. What a joke the Liberals are.


Prof. Pye Chartt
said

Dear CTV Editor:

After your point about preferring good spelling, you indicated that you avoid "repition."

I want to avoid it, too, but don't know what it is.

P.S. Cheers. Just a little humour with a wink.


shelley
said

Our household alone contributes over 40,000. to the Feds every year , that is far more than we even spend on our mortgage. I can't stand the thoughts of handing it to Mr. Harper. For those of you that are thinking, you guys must make decent incomes, we do and work very hard for it. We live fairly well and we are tired of subsidizing Canadians that always have their hands out. Mr. Harper's only plan is to buy your votes with my tax dollars. Mr. Dion is the only leader who plans on making our tax dollars more efficient. If we are going to pay more taxes (and we will under any of these governments), lets put it to good use. You have to spend money to make money. That is the principles of business. Just because Harper is an economist doesn't mean he's a good one.

David in NB.
said

As a proud maritimer, I for one can say that I will be voting for the Conservative Party of Canada. At one time I voted liberal, but they have gone from centre-left to way left, into a sea of NDP, Greens and Lord knows what else.
Like or hate him, Mr. Harper best represents, for me, what this country should be. Having said that, please avoid ad hominem attacks that insinuate that anyone who supports whatever party is "brainwashed". That is not the case. People, please, vote for your candidate, for whichever party. I'm just saying that Mr. Harper's party is getting my vote. I trust that your party will get your vote. Exchange ideas, not barbs. Please.


jeff
said

Vote for anyone, but Harper. It's Canada's best chance for a stable future. Harper adapted G.W's doctrine and he's not backing down. Big business and oil companies are Harper's bread and butter. This is not what the people of Canada want. Stand up canada and make your vote count.


Bob,Calgary,Alberta
said

You know it's almost like Canadians have a death wish. We are either in the midst of or heading into a recession and we are about to elect another minority government. Soon we will be like Italy where they change governments/coalitions every six months. In tough times we need a government that makes decisions and doesn't take risks. Count out Duceppe and his croonies and May , the one trick pony. The Liberals would legislate a destructive tax at a crucial juncture to satisfy some phony prognosticators at the UN who say man is causing global warming but have no real scientific evidence that warming is occuring or that CO2 causes it. The NDP would increase corporate taxes in a country that is the most unproductive in the G8. In a recession these corporate tax increases will make things worse and accelerate job losses. And all this is caused by Canadians still having some fleeting impression that Stephen Harper is "scary". My goodness what could be more scary than some of our past PMs like Chretien and Martin.We should give Harper a chance to actually govern rather than fighting against petty charges dredged up by the Liberals in particular and the NDP when they see fit to jump on the Liberal bandwagon. Canada seems on the road to it's own destruction and the complacent,fearful Canadian voters will be the ones who hurry it along that path.


Jack - AB
said

I am surprised that people say Harper has no plan. He does have a plan. It is:

Cut taxes ( tax breaks to Oil companies, etc. ), cut government ( privatize and deregulate ), cut spending and social programs, cut surpluses, forget about paying off debt ( now that Harper has finally balanced the budget ), do little or nothing for the environment, increase military spending - $490 Billion over 20 years ( with more active participation in joint wars with the USA ), etc.

Going green will always cost more money to achieve. Meaning it costs less to do nothing for the environment. The Green Shift is one way to promote reduction of energy consumption ( GHGs ) but the timing for this plan is bad since economy is slowing down & energy prices are high making it a very tough sell.

Harper called the election now because:
1) He was able to pay off lots of debt with the Liberal surpluses
2) Dion would improve his English by next year and give a stronger fight.
3) Given more time Dion may have convinced more people that the Green Shift was good for the environment and able to sell it better ( it is unpopular today & costing the Liberal votes ).
4) Harper would have run deficits. We have a $2.9 Billion surplus now because of the sale of the airwaves which brought in $4.5 Billion.
5) Looks like Harper is running budgets with small surpluses when this will not be the case very soon.

Vote ABC


Art
said

Have any of you conservatives been watching the stock market. In just the last few weeks Harper's plan has lost you about 20% of your retirement money if you are invested in the market. I am not sure I want to continue with his economic plan.

Dion's plan is designed to shift the tax burden not to increase over-all taxes. It also encourages research and development in areas that will provide economic prosperity in the future such as renewable energy sources. As much as those from western Canada might not like it, oil and gas are very limited natural resources which are going to run out sooner than we would like.


Joe Sanity
said

I scratch my head over the folks who are voting Reform/Conservative because they like surpluses. Where do you think that came from? The Tories never left a surplus, It was the Chretien/ Martin Liberals. You far right folks are just ASSUMING that Harpers gang will do the same. You know what happens when you assume...


al from calgary
said

To Shelly:
Since we are all fools who have been CONed Please tell us where Dion is going to get the money for his promises since he keeps saying everything raised by the green shift is going back into tax cuts I think its you who is being CONed.

To Ken:
Regarding cuts to the arts read the article by Lucia Cordila (name is more than likely spelled wrong) and please reply to that. I will read yours or anyone elses comments later for a response
to that article.

To All:
I have just discovered the reason all you liberals staffers who post are so scared of a Harper majority, its because you are afraid that he will run a good government and will keep being re-elected thus ending your days of patronage and entitlements.

To all the ABC's Out There.
Don't worry Harper will still govern correctly and not hold it against you


Frank, AB
said

Why is it everyone keeps talking about the Lib or Tory surpluses, the surplus government revenue is nothing more than our money. It is a direct result of over taxation not good government. I don't like paying taxes and I imagine most people don't, but I pay them and I hope that the government spends the money wisely.

I have always been a right leaning voter, but I do have a sense of social justice and I find some of the ideas from the Liberal party intriguing, the national drug plan makes sense if they can get all the Provinces on board so they can centralize purchasing power. I just wish they would be realistic and then admit that they need x amount of tax dollars to implement there platform rather than introducing a poorly disguised green shift plan to get more tax dollars.


al from calgary
said

SORRY
Lucia Cordellia article is in today's edition of the Calgary Herald Once again sorry if I spelled the name wrong


Mike in ON
said

I've seen many post, saying that the GST cuts have made no difference to them, because the prices just went up to make the final cost the same.

Folks, how is that the fault of the Government? Shouldn't you be angry with the retailers? The Government held up their end of the deal - go bang on your local store manager's door and let him know what you think of the price increases!


jtk
said

I would normally vote conservative since I feel they've been doing a pretty good job so far - and yes a couple of promises did not go too far.

BUT, what we've not heard in mainstream media is the North American Union deal that is presently in its final stages. This would bring into effect the new currency, the AMERO which is not the first step into a worldwide currency and government.

If anyone has access to question Harper, please ask him why Canadians don't know anything about the plans already underway to unite Canada, USA, and Mexico. This is not good - and I am NOT a doom-and-gloomer.


roy
said

to all you folks in the maritimes who are voting Liberal and blaming Mr Harper of lying where the heck were you when the Liberals were in power. I'm from the east and all the Liberals done for thirteen years well let me think ah ah ah nothing


Samantha
said

There are still to many Liberals left over from the Paul Martin and Cretien regime. They still havn't returned the hundreds of millions of dollars they stole from taxpayers with adscam, and they still havn't apolagized for it.

Vot ANYTHING but Liberal. We need to clean out the rest of the crooks so that the liberals can rebuild with an honest slate of candidates.


John C
said

Art: "In just the last few weeks Harper's plan has lost you about 20% of your retirement money if you are invested in the market. I am not sure I want to continue with his economic plan."

If you actually believe that Prime Minister Harper alone is completely responsible for the stock market dropping 20%, and nothing else that is happening in the rest of the financial WORLD has anything to do with it, you are either completely delusional or a Liberal hack.


Steve McC
said

Mr. Harper mentioned that he's been unemployed during his life.

As an economist, one would have to be daft to believe that Canada will avoid a recession, given an 18% drop in the TSX since the election call.

Commodities and resource stocks are highly volatile and impact Canada's economic growth dramatically!

One does not qualify for EI benefits if s/he resigns without cause. Perhaps Mr. Harper you can get a job in a call centre or gas bar, but as an economist & Prime Minister you are clearly unqualified.

You were right to resign.


Dennis obertson
said

Dennis Alexandria, ON
I started to watched the French debate but after 20 minuites of that crap I moved on thinking perhaps the English one might bring something more for us, to my dismay I shut down after the first 15 minuites of that as well, the one thing it did do for me was to conirm that four of the five were nothing more than Junk Yard Dogs and vicious one at that, they forgot that most people will back the under dog so they may have given Mr. Harper a majority Government which will be OK with me as my other choices are from out of the question to just a bafoon!

Mr. Harper the first thing I would ask you to do is get rid of the Bloc Party as they are not a Federal Party and as such have no right being there and the second is pull up your boot straps and cancel Free Trade that is what has put us and the US in such a whole, I would only purchase products made in Canada the Commonwealth countries or the US and now I spend most of my time trying to find something made fron these countries, Brian whats his name brougt this crap to us and look what we did to him please don't you go that route or we will be forced to send you packing as well!
Dennis


Not Paying anymore
said

A vote for Liberal or NDP = The Middle class gets to pay higher taxes on items such as heating our house and driving to work so that the people on welfare get more money and social programs while we work twice as hard to pay for them. I for one do not want to pay for someone else to get more money rfom the governement when they pay no taxes at all. I am voting conservative. I appreciate not getting taxed anymore that I already am.


Alan - Toronto
said

To Shelley,

You don't "get" a surplus "from" anybody. A surplus is an annual surplus of revenues iver expenses. The National. Debt is what you inherit.

Bob Rae inherited HUGE surpluses and a sound economy from David Peterson. In less than 5 years he alost bankrupted Ontario by massive over-spending while killing the private section. That would be the same Bob Rae you see in many photos standing just behind Dion.

Harper took over when the Libs had surpluses. He cut taxes big time, paid down $35+billion of the National Debt, and still has surpluses WHILE he was daily badgered by "Taliban Jack", 'It's hard to make decision Stephane" and "I want, I want, I want Gilles".

Harper did not (because he could not) INHERIT surpluses. Understand before you take a stand.

BTW - Politically, Harper is more like Clinton than Bush. Try if you must, but the label just doesn't stick.


RS
said

Dion is so out of touch with ordinary Canadians that it's not even funny!


Tony
said

The Liberals will have to deal with Canada's economic mess in 2012.


R/H Ontario
said

To: Ian- Alberta,
"The young people have the answer; its just that the older in general don't want to hear it. Maybe because it's like a computer... they fear what they DO NOT understand."
Not very nice, Ian. Just remember, one day you too will be a doddering old Geriatric!
Signed;- 72 years young and also computer literate, plus voting Conservative.


Dean in NL
said

I'm a Newfoundlander who will not be listening to Danny Williams ABC(anything but conservative) campaign. Personlly I think Harper would be the stronger leader of the group in Canada and garner more respect on the international stage. I hope other Newfoundlanders and Canadians can see that we would get royally screwed under Dion or Layton.

On a side note I didn't agree with May attending the leader debates, with no one currently elected or getting elected her party does not represent any Canadian.

I think I will start my own party, become leader, gain some national support, afford some signs and demand to be in the debate. Oh, and as an oridinary tax paying Canadian I agree with the arts cuts, if an artist can't make on their than obviously they aren't that good and should consider another line of work. If they want the government to support them go on welfare, but don't use crap art as an excuse to get my money. Thats my rant, if you don't agree with it thats why we live in a free country so you can say what you want and I can voice my opinion.


Doug
said

If these posts are any indication, we are going to have a very divided Canada after we vote. And regional differences are becoming a huge issue.
As a westerner, I have never had a problem with BC paying equalization to help other regions.But,there is NO WAY Atlantic Canada can convince me that my tax dollars should continue to flow there AFTER they find their economies are as strong as those in the "have" provinces.
Nor do I accept that those provinces who prefer a more socialist,high tax style of government should be able to legislate that on the whole country.If we chose to be more conservative in the west,that should be our choice.Not the choice of a bunch of latte sipping,dot com yuppies from downtown Toronto.
These posts here just confirm my suspicions that the Liberals cater to two elements in our country.One that wants all the decisions to be made in Ottawa,and a huge group of individuals and lobbyists that want something for "free".
Canada is now a sovereign nation in name only.Maybe we have to face up to the reality that regional differences leave us with very little in common any more.
Liberals always screwed those of us in the west.The NDP is a useless bunch of social engineers,and apparently Canadians in the east find even a touch of Conservatism to be some kind of an evil plot by G.Bush.
What a pathetic choice we have to make in October. We can elect Conservatives and make Atlantic Canadians very angry. Or we can return to the days of the Liberals screwing over western Canada.
Unity?? Yea. Sure!! Who really cares as long as "I get mine".


Jay
said

Based on the comments here I think some you are hacks for certain parties.

I was leaning NDP until the leaders debate (and I watched both, english and french as this election is THAT important)and heard Harper's responses. I am now leaning Liberal as I realized he's an out of touch republican.

But how people can get on here and write that the green shift is wreckless and an embarrassment is weak. The NDP and Green platforms aren't much different so why single out only the liberals?

Why not READ the plan for yourself instead of relying on the conservative commercials to tell what you should think.

This strategy is done in other countries and the only leader that doesn't have a plan is harper. What a minute! he hasn't released a platform yet either, but seems to be quite good at fear mongering and denigrating the others as a scare tactic.

So to those that are voting conservative what is it 'exactly' are you voting for, and please, no Sarah Palin jibber jab either. Let's put some meat on this election!


MM
said

This election is a disgrace. This country is a disgrace to allow such fools to bicker at eachother on who could do a better job. The plan, the platform, wheres yours? blah blah blah. Come on....give me a break. As I have said before and will say again no matter who become president they will still screw you in the end, the question is which one will screw you the least. Vote for that one. Harper has lied to the people about the income trust fiasco and sunk the markets before now the markets are sunk again in less then 2 years. When hard working Canadians invest in the Canadian economy and loose their hard earned money while the government stands on his hands and even contributes to the cause it is time for a change.


Richard L. Provencher
said

Holy smokes! My wife and I just returned from Fort Saskatchewan, Jasper, Edmonton and area. I met more people from the Maritimes, especially Newfoundlanders working there, than I met Albertans. Imagine, Elizabeth May and Mr. Layton want to shut down the tar sands. What will happen to all those Easterners working there? And Mr. Dithers lives in a bubble like Premier Williams of NL who should realize that the Harper government is doing great for Canada. It would be nice to have good Conservative representation from the Maritimes in a soon-to-be majority government. Richard from Truro, NS.


JA
said

instead of running each other down why don't these candidates tell us what they are going to do for the country to keep us from going into a recession as the US is looking at


Greg in the Hammer
said

It amazes me that people question Harper's honesty, character, intentions after two years of solid government in a minority. He has been able to deliver on over 50% of the campaign pledges he made in the last election and there is more in the pipeline that was held up byt the opposition in committees.

This is after 13 LONG YEARS of outright Liberal Lies under Chretien and Martin. 13 years of corruption, 13 years of accomplishing virtually nothing of significance despite massive majorities with no effective opposition, 13 years of lining the pockets of Liberal Party hacks and friends, 13 years of no action at all on the government and 13 years of straining relations with our closest ally and biggest benefactor the United States.


Mo
said

conservatives haven't done anything to help this country ever since they took office. Anyone with a post secondary education would know tax cuts only benefit huge corporations while it puts 20 or 30 dollars back in the pockets of low income families. Liberal green plans would tax you on items that polute the environment while giving you tax returns later on. It makes sense, but people have their heads in the sand. And about Harper's plagerism, if he was in university, he would be expelled. This is really sad that our leader is a source of shame for us in the world. Really sad.


Henry Wysmulek
said

Never thought I would agree with Dion about anything, but this time he is right.

Anywhere the ndp gain power, they only destroy the economy and turn the place into a welfare state.
Just look t what they did in Ontario, Saskatchewan, and currently in Manitoba.

Their whole economic strategy is to go crawling to Ottawa for more and more handouts!



Justin (Political Science/Economics student)
said

I've heard enough of this board in which most people have no clue what their talking about.

Has anyone ever thought about what Harper has said...nothing but stupid promises that will increase demand for gas and then raise the price. His environmental plan has a 65$/ton carbon tax at the pumps which he doesn't mention. He killed the surplus and traditional fiscal conservatives believe in a small buffer which the liberals use to do, in case the economy didn't do as well as predicted. He offers tax credits to buy houses when we should be slowing down housing production or else we will have a similar housing problem as in the US. His plans are not sound economics and they will not help jobs or cut taxes.

For those who commented about the Liberals not defending Atlantic Canada, remember who sends equalization your way, remember who helped invest in roads and attract business with a regional development board. I'm from New Brunswick and to compare Harper to Lord. Bernard Lord didn't know what he was doing and led the most secretive government in NB's history which saw deficits each year, killing beds in public health care, a laissez-faire approach, political moves between school boards in one city or an other, being quiet and following people instead of leading. For NB'ers, do you really want an other Bernard Lord in Ottawa like Harper but worst.

For most of the people on this board, I suggest you actually look at the platforms of all the parties...wait... the Liberals brought out their platform first and the Conservatives still haven't, economic leadership???

I also suggest that people on here learn economics or do research on actual documents because at university it's called "speaking out of your ass" when you don't know what your talking about.


Jim from Ontario
said

For many years now, I could not bring myself to vote. It just did not make a real difference who got in as all seemed the same. Now I see continuous arguments that make sense, strong opinions and reasons to take a stand. A political system that has such passion is a healthy system in this crazy world. I found myself listening and researching all sides now and I confidently will vote as I feel there is hope.


Prof. Pye Chartt
said

Judging by the comments still flowing from the red-underwear Liberals posting here, there seems to be a factual disconnect with political and economic history.

The previous Liberal government(s) managed to attain budgetary surplus, largely, by screwing the provinces of the country (manipulating transfer payments) and overtaxing each one of us, so they could sit back with a twisted, arrogant smile and claim to be so fiscally and economically responsible.

Nonsense. Wash the "SUCKER" stamp off your forehead. They stole and squandered our money and tried to make us all feel fortunate. In Ontario, because he's a lock-step Liberal, McGuinty won't talk about the financial kick in the groin Ottawa delivered.

Surpluses represent an EXCESS of OUR money. Used recklessly, they are a disincentive to reign in wasteful government spending and forge greater public-sector efficiencies. They are, indeed, a necessary tool of debt repayment...but, to the Liberals, they're just a political tool and an opportunity to practice economic voodoo.


Cate Ridley
said

Why is it that the Liberals want to use taxpayer’s money to bring back the Office of Petroleum Price Information when everything anyone would want to know about gas prices can be found on the MJ Ervin website, for free. Since the Liberals stated they would use MJ Ervin’s data anyway, they could hardly complain about the trustworthiness of the information.


Jay, Ottawa
said

Mike in ON said, "I've seen many post, saying that the GST cuts have made no difference to them, because the prices just went up to make the final cost the same.

Folks, how is that the fault of the Government?"

It's not as simple assigning fault and pointing at someone. The situation highlights the government's inability to develop a comprehensive plan for a change like this. I would have to say that if you cut a tax, but inflation manages to undo any cost reduction, your policy implementation was a failure.


Marc Coquitlam B.C.
said

Our riding has bounced from N.D.P. Liberal(for 2 years) and C.R.A.P.(Conservative Reform Alliance Party) during the last 20 years. Should I not support the N.D.P. who has the best chance of winning the riding, helping to prevent a Harper majority? Should I think twice about that Mr. Dion? Ujjal says the Liberal party is the only party who can stop Harpers Ontario recession from coming west. Maybe I should skip the election altogether. Anything to watch on C.T.V. on Oct. 14th?


Michael
said

While I am sure that the NDP are taking back votes from the Liberals, an obvious choice for those who no longer want to be part of a sinking ship and wish to support an effective opposition party, it would seem to me that a substantial shift has been to the Green Party. The Greens have stated in the past that their natural ally is the Liberals. So for those Liberals who don't want to support the Conservatives and are hesitant about the NDP, the Greens would be a natural place for their support.


Will
said

I think that Harper has earned his majority. Sure, he's not photogenic (actually, he comes off a bit creepy) but the guy did lead a surprisingly effective and long-lived minority government.

The fact that the Liberals had many chances to counter the Conservatives in their minority government state, but did not, speaks volumes on the lack of leadership and vision that the Liberals claim to have.

We need a strong Canada, and Mr. Harper has shown that even handicapped he can make things happen.


Dylan Stone
said

The most alarming thing about this election is that the forming North American Union (NAU) under the Securities and Prosperities Partnership (SPP)supported by the Council on Forgien Relations(CFR)is aligning Canadian, US, and Mexican boarders, and militairy complex through the United States Northern Command(NORTHCOM) under the legal pre-text of NAFTA and the decietful Official Report on the attacks of September 11th, 2001. No Leaders will talk about this issue, most likely because they are compliant in its motives, or fear the repercussions. Spare the Canadian Action Party these issues are irrelevant to voters, say the Major parties. Until the real issues are on the table and there are leaders who want to help Canada become it's own power and it's own policy maker we are just beating around the Bush (no pun). So become informed Canada about the real underlying issues in the Economy and the Wars.



Don in Fredericton
said

Well, We got four parties fighting for 4 more years of gridlock and childish games and gotcha's amd 1 paety offering us a real proven government with our economy is mind. My vote goes Conservative this time !


Dave in Downtown Newington !
said

Until all the opposition parties decide to get their act together I think we will be seeing Mr Harper as PM for the next couple of terms at least.

Jack(working for the workers)Layton....When on the Toronto Council with wife Olivia Chow he resided in a two (or three) bedroom apt. in a subsidised housing complex,claiming he needed to be with the poor people he represented. Nice!Jumping an eight year waiting list somehow with a combined income of prolly $200k a year and depriving a NEEDY family of a home.That's the REAL Jack?

Dion...now has Bob(tax until they're bankrupt)Rae who cost everyone in Ontario earning over $40k about $2000 a year in extra tax and still managed to nearly make Ontario a third world country(and losing us thousands of Doctors!) riding shotgun and is firmly sticking to his Greenshift that anyone who takes time to calculate(Please do it)will put half the pensioners I know out of their homes and on the street!
Check what you are paying now and add 40% if he ever gets in power.

May....A treehugger (not a bad thing) that has no idea of anything other than to close down every oil refinery and plant that pollutes...

That leaves our Mr H...Can be forgiven for not doing much so far as the opposition blocked his every move....but I want to see his platform (What is he gonna do with his majority) before committing my vote.

Here in SD&G we have an independant running (Howard Galganov) that I am voting for unless Mr H tells me what his plans are.

I worked damn hard all my life to get a nice little house to retire in and I will not vote for a tax crazy govt. that wants to see me back in a one bed apartment counting the pennies!

That's my ten cents worth!


Chris Ont
said

Just some thoughts if you are thinking of voting for the conservatives

They closed all those child care spaces the liberals created.

They cancelled the long awaited helicopter contract to replace the aging copters we had.

They had the nerve to do what they said they would do, must be a hidden agenda.

They say their platform is stay the course, no need for knee jerk reactions instead of raising taxes and costs to help out my friends with hand out because that is their right.

They had the nerve to stop overtaxation and put money back in the taxpayers pockets, they should have raised taxes for you and your friends benefit.

They called an election, when it should have been up to us the natural governing party.

Remember we spent the better part of thirteen years brainwashing you, now is not the time to lose hope.







Ray
said

If the Liberals or the NDP get elected where are they going to get the mony for there programs do we see another cancelling of military equipment again. And paying heavily for breaking the contracts and walk away with nothing or maybe we buy some more used equipment then spend millions while they sit until they can be put into service years from now.


Jim Lad
said

Please, tell us more about the carbon tax, Msr. Dion.
Lest we forget!


Can't get serious
said

I cannot comprehend the people that claim Mr Harpers 2% GST cut did nothing for them...

When my wife and I purchased our matching Bentley Continentals last year it saved us over $6000...

Just a bit of humour !


Clara in Toronto
said

The liberal green shift plan is largely misunderstood. There would essentially be no increase in taxes. They are going to reduce income taxes, among others as they introduce a tax for carbon emissions. Overall there is no increase in taxes for the average Canadian. And we get the benefit of a cleaner, healthier Canada. If our economy is as resilient as the Conservatives say, it could handle that, couldn't it?


MR from Mississauga
said

What were Dion's handlers thinking yesterday, when they let him play ball hockey in front of the cameras? It was hilarious! He took about 20 shots before he scored. He looked like a bit of a klutz before the nation. Can anyone say Stanfield? After trying to fight off the "nerd" tag all campaign, I can't believe the handlers put him in a situation to play the nerd who can't score. Are these guys secret Ignatieff or Rae plants?


Paul R. Martin
said

To those people who complain that they have not seen the Conservative Platform, my question is "Where have you been?" Haven't you followed the budgets and the throne speaches? What you have seen is what you will get.


Lowell
said

For the naysayers of the carbon tax, I would suggest that they do some homework before spouting off on here and distorting information for voters. Take a look at the countries who have implemented it. Yes I googled it. Sweden, Norway, The Netherlands, Denmark, Finland, Austria, Germany and ITaly have all come on board with the tax. Switzerland, France and the UK are currently considering it. Canada under the leadership of Harper and his fiscal policies, Harpernomics, is not in the forefront of this progressive thinking. When will we be in the forefornt of modern thinking with Harper? Probably never. Like his fiscal policies (don't worry be happy attitude), no foreign policy, no domestic vision or policy to deal with provinces or aboriginal groups, we will be at risk should Harper gain a majority. That must not happen as little or no thought has been given by Harper on how to deal with an impending recession. (According to Harper in the debates, there is no likelihood of that as he tries to paint a rosy picture for voters.). At bare minimum a consultative plan and strategy must be employed to work with business, banking industry, provinces and other G8 countries. Oh yes I forgot, the word consultative is not in Harper's lexicon.


Rick in Vancouver
said

What seems interesting to me but is lost on most other Canadians (at least the ones responding to polls) is the following facts:
- The current federal Conservative Strategy is derived from FAILED international Conservative strategies of the past (Mulroney in Canada--hello!--Harris and the CSR in Ontario, Major in the UK, Howard in Aussieland, Bush Doctrine in the US).
- Tory times are tough times, and the Liberals need to repeat this a 1000 times over! Wake up!
- Canadians seems to forget all the nonsense comments Harper has made in the last 10 years. Comments that were based on the failed international Conservative strategy.
- Harper's current ad campaign is almost identical to the Harris ads from the 95/96 Ontario election...sweater vest, soft tone, caring with people. We know where that gets an economy....you get a very short-lived influx of cash that dries up in four years...so you end up with an economy that seems to post surpluses while reducing taxes meanwhile the Conservative governments knows the influx of cash is short-term and they are hedging their bets on another miracle influx of cash!

- The biggest mistake one can make in life is not learning from previous mistakes. The world has experienced the Conservative Strategy and many countries, including Canada, have proven that it doesn't work. What more do we need?

- When did Canadian politics become about the leader and less about the party? What good is a party with a solid leader that has a weak team? Although Harper and Layton may be strong leaders, they cannot run the entire government (no matter how hard Harper tries)...Canadians need to realize that there is only one party with a strong team filled with people of federal EXPERIENCE...the Liberals.


Mykey, The Lakehead
said

I notice Dion has taken to wearing a Montreal Canadiens jersey. What an insult to our friends in La Belle Province! As if they are so shallow that such a banal gesture would win their vote. Next, he will be trying to entice them with trinkets and beads. That man is contemptible.


billp
said

Our economic problems are caused by the problems with the collapse of the banking in the United States not by Harper nor is Harper a George Bush clone . The NDP and Libeals have to realize that that putting more taxes on Canadians is not going to fly. This election campian has been nothing but bushing Harper and not saying what they are going to do if and only they keep thier promises what they are the government . Its getting BORING .


Drew in NS
said

Newfoundlanders are smarter than to let Danny Williams dictate to the people in his mind ( His peasents of Newfoundland )are to vote.

Newfoundlanders are smarter and I'm sure they will put Danny Williams on notice that his temper tantrums belong in the corner for a little time out.


R.J. Robert
said

Yes, indeed, think twice --or maybe it's thrice --about voting Liberal because it's the new socialist thinking.


Color me RED!
said

Dion, is the man for me. I can visit the US by just crossing the border...I don't want to become one. Harper, has an agenda and it is one I don't want. His kissing baby act don't fool me one bit. Would like to see a Poll for Atlantic Canada...guess we don't count.


AW from Toronto
said

I find it extremely offensive that non-Conservative supporters keep hurling insults such as "uneducated", "delusional", "Nazis", "Albertan red-necks", etc. As a proud visible-minority Torontonian AND a proud Cons-supporter who is finishing her second post-secondary degree, I am none of those things. So please spare me your condescending and holier-than-thou attitude, especially that "God-given right to govern" idea of the Liberals.

The honest truth is, I used to be a die-hard Liberal - the result of daily "brain-washing" in my highschool, peer-pressure, and media influence. Even back then I didn't stoop so low as to use personal attacks on those who didn't share my views.

In the face of a possible recession, economy is what matters the most to me now as I'm preparing to enter the workforce next spring. I shudder to think what more taxes proposed by the oppositions would do to the economy. If all my potential employers are forced out of the country due to high taxes, what should I do then? Wait around for government welfare? I don't think so!

I know my vote for the CPC in my riding will not win them a seat in the parliament, but at least they'll know that even in the Liberal-Red GTA there's someone who's rooting for the Conservative-Blue.


Layton B in Moncton NB
said

Greg in the Hammer: If we elect Harper to a majority, then your statement will be like this:
"This is after 13 LONG YEARS of outright Conservative Lies under Harper and Flarety. 13 years of corruption, 13 years of accomplishing virtually nothing of significance despite massive majorities with no effective opposition, 13 years of lining the pockets of Conservative Party hacks and friends, 13 years of no action at all on the government and 13 years of bowing down and kissing the ass and taking orders from our closest ally and biggest benefactor the United States."

I for one don't like the prospects of a Harper majority. His economic plan is already helping to kill the stock market, hope no one had money in the TSX. His tax cuts for the rich and crumbs for the other 85% of the population do little to impress me. The lack of foresight on issues such as climate change, peak oil and private medicine scare the be-jesus outta me. Mind you Harper is no stupid man, he has sold snake oil from coast to coast, the worst part is that so many people are buying it. But the best is his job creation plan for Atlantic Canada, its called Fort MacMurray. FYI, our economy out here is NOT equal to that of the rest of Canada, our wages are significantly lower, our access to health care is worse and we have generally higher unemployment. So all you folks out there who think we're living high on the hog out east here, WAKE UP!! You just bought another Reform Party LIE.


Robbie from Toronto
said

Even if I had any inclination to vote for Stephen Harper, I couldn't. Why?

BECAUSE THE MAN IS RUNNING WITH NO PLATFORM!

What is this? A grade 8 student council election?!


David Dunlop
said

Vote for me to be your PM because I have a plan to plan for 30 days.

Choose one:

A) What a brainiac!
B) What a moron!
C) He is gonzo!
D) Our next PM.


Geoff
said

The conservatives do not have a plan for the economy we are told. Dion wants to have some meetings about it but is unable to come up with an specific suggestions. Layton, he thinks he can increase manufacturing jobs in Ontario and Quebec by increasing increasing taxes for employers (businesses).

If ever me needed a strong majority government that can act without petty bickering, it is now.



Walter
said

blah blah and blah...I for see another minority govt. see you all in about 2 months...


Paul out West
said

All Western leaders know there is a crisis with the economy, except Harper. He had no plan to discuss at the leaders' debates despite the fact he asked for more time from the broadcasters to discuss it. Then he says all is well so he proposed no plan.

The other leaders have plans and published platforms, Harper has none.

Need we say more?


Jake Lieuwen
said

It's amazing how the opposition has all the answers. In a crises, why not work together. I think the Conservatives need a majority to give them a chance to fix up what the Liberals failed to do. I also like an MP that I can understand.


Jerry Younge
said

The little blue riding hood, Mr. Harper


Ken Pope
said

In the end each of you only have one vote. So chill out, have a beer and relax, all you're doing with these blogs is feeding the media gods....


marion l
said

All people care about is their pocketbooks! It is time to think about the environment, we lost Koyoto because of Harper! Why are people so afraid of the Green Shift? its time we all did something to help save our environment. We don't need two cars in the driveway, a big house, etc.
Harper is joined at the hip with Bush. He is a control freak as well.


George from Brampton
said

To ALL OF YOU that say the CARBON TAX will NOT increase taxes I say BULL BULL BULL.
Think, use your heads. My daughter works at OPG and their calculations state they will pass along their carbon charge and your hydro will DOUBLE. Your heat will DOUBLE. The goods, (everything) shipped by rail, truck, boat, their cost will be passed on to you and you WILL pay more.Nothing on the horizon to replace diesel engines. Dion will have to CUT taxes so drastic it is not feasible. He has stated he is taking 40B out of the tax for other projects, this money should be coming back to taxpayer if it is revenue neutral. You are like mushrooms, been kept in the dark and fed manure. To those that think Harper is resonsible for stock market problems, it has to do with the US and nothing to do with Canada. This is just a fallout from the US. If you can afford to play the market, you can afford to loose. There are safer places to invest than the stock market but not as high a return. It is called RISK FACTOR. That is why I do no invest in the market.


plail
said

The Liberals have a plan to come up with a plan in 30 days. They also are proposing a massive carbon tax. How can Dion say that the NDP are job killers when he comes up with something like this. Harper is the only leader who even has a clue about the economy.


JS
said

The sky is falling, the sky is falling, the sky is falling, Canadians, the sky is falling!!!!! According to Dion the sky is falling. With his Green Shaft, the sky will fall, for him. Panic, panic, panic!!!

Jack - AB
The reason the Libs had huge surplusses is because Mulroney left them with NAFTA and the GST to help with the deficit. Martin, as finance minister used them plus cutting health transfer payments to the provinces, cut defence spending, expropriated some $48 billion from the Unemployment Insurance Fund and some $16 billion from the Public Service Pension Fund to name a few. So, Jack, next time you have to wait a long time to see a doctor, you can thank the Libs for that.


Todd Harris - Toronto
said

It's good to see that the economy is finally on the campaign agenda. This is especially relevant as Stephen Harper has decided to throw around $ 43 million of Federal govt. money, that is public money, on research into oil/gas in, get this, the province of Alberta - like they need the hand out. Much better to have spent the money on saving jobs in the auto sector and/or some other manufactuting sector in Ontario. See my new Internet political ad at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hn6bLRw4LG4 for confirmaion of this farce - and travesty, the Canadian press/media should investigate at this most important time, where we can make choices of which govt. we want.

Cheers!


munha
said

Hello!! canadian wake up!!!
Mr Harper called election because he knew that Mccain will go down, and Mccain is Bush and Bush is Harper, so they all play the same role, that`s why he called election before the result of Mr OBAMA the next president of USA. if we give him majority that`ll be disaster.


Dave from Toronto
said

For those of you who think Harper is so great for the economy, I have one question.
Don't you read the business news? This is happening when Harper is PM, and he does nothing other than to say, don't worry...trust me.
Well no way! I can't trust someone, who won't trust me to review his plan, before I make a decision and vote.


Larry C
said

We are reacting to the US panic. Conservative leadership has helped us avoid the worst of the financial mess since August 2007, but Canadians need to remember that, in the end, we are tied to the US economy.


Harpo Marc
said

Harper's lead is stalled for the past 2 weeks while the liberals gaining steadily in the only poll that was accurate within a percentage point of the last two elections. Nik Nanos.

People are starting to realize a vote for Harper is a vote for ignorance of the REAL issues facing this countr. Harper has guessed wrong on the "strength" of our economy, he ignores the environment, he ignores the economy. What is Harper? An Ostrich? he sure buries his head in the Sand a lot… wonder who's speech he can steal from next. Weak.


bren in fredtown
said

I find it so sad that atlantic canadians are still playing the harper liedrecordover and over. Itseems to me he was right. All economic reports indicate that within a coupleof minths Nfld will be well into the HAVE province territory. Why should the be geting "equalization" payments fromprovinces that have less? Ask yourself instead what that arrogant little magalomoniac williams has done for nfld. NOTHING,he has not passed and useful legislation. What did the libs do for NFLD? Nothing. Well done.


Chet malone
said

I must say that after watching the english debate, I came to the conclusion that non of the party leaders have a clue, including Harper. Being seen as priminesterial and telling Canadians what his plans are, are two different things. He didn't do either. At least the other leaders had something to offer, some more rediculous than others. But the one person I wanted to here from, just sat there like a mute and said nothing!I was going to vote conservative, but after his silence in the debate, he's not getting my vote. I don't like secrecy, it tells me that he has either nothing to offer or he has a hidden agenda, or both. Mr. Harper if your silence was a planned tactic for the debate to gain more votes, sorry to tell you but i'd start by firing your campaign manager. Because in my view it failed miserably.


Marg, Richmond
said

Just some "food for thought".
If you DON'T like the cut in GST, the fact that our military now has proper uniforms & equiptment, the pension income-spliting for seniors, the soon to be $5000.00 tax free account, the fact that our economy is on track,then vote Liberal. If you LIKE, scandals, corruption, broken promises, and taxes upon taxes, then also vote Liberal/NDP, as it seems they now are one & the same.
And to let those of you who think that the conservative posters must be getting paid, I can assure you that I am an ordainary Canadian who just happens to believe that the Liberals had their time in power, and could have implemented all the programs they are offering now, and chose not to. For all of you who like the alphabet so much, here are some new letters for you.

HATW Harper all the way!!!!





RAV
said

The critics in this forum just don't get it. A year ago, the Conservatives led by Mr. Harper predicted the current economic down turn. They took steps then to mitigate any disadvantage to Canada. Other nations at that time did not follow suit and now are scrambling to stabilize their economies. As the article states, Canada is paying down debt, maintaining a surplus and increasing employment. The manufacturing and forestry sectors may be a concern. However they have contributed greatly to their own problems. They have for too long concentrated on the North American market and have permitted dominating unions to grow in strength. This all has been a detriment to the Canadian economy. Yet, overall, by policy, the current government has managed to mitigate the affects on the Canadian economy.


Mike R.
said

The only plan the other parties have is to tax the heck out of everyone.


heather
said

on october 14th people should think long and hard before voting...mr harper is the only person in this election thinking about what is best for canada now and for canada for my childern and grandchildern to come.


paul c
said

well wheres your platform aside from the one yer standing on..


Wade
said

A Green Shift Carbon Tax was never suggested as helpful.


Nancy - My Grandparents would dump the Liberals
said

My Liberal voting grandparents would dump their Liberal MP if they were here to do it.


bren in fredtown
said

i find it ironic that all the left wing radical that bemoan harper as being too close to bush liek Layton and Dion, who attended or had staffes attend the political conventions in the US. And laytong does his obama impersonation so much im surprised he hasnt put on face make up.FUrther, these same people then fail to realise that we a re a different country with a different banking structure, more diversity of economy and resources, and a more prudent government.CLearly the US will impact us economically as it has the rest of the world..but the fearmongering of the Liberals and NDP is reminiscent of the harper is scary campaign. I have been buying all the mutuals i can afford. If Dion and Layton would stop panicking themselves, and inciting others to do the same..I wouldnt be getting the deals I am. Maybe i should thank them for being panic buttons and extremists out to fearmonger in return for uneducated votes.Harper is right..stay the course. We are doing fine.


Harper miles ahead of the pack !!
said

If Mr. Harper wasn't such a strong leader and leading in the election all thse jerks posting lies wouldnt be here.

This is an endorsement of the Prime Ministers effectiveness.

A) Always
B) Be a
C) Conservative!




Dave Barton
said

To Marion l
"All people care about is their pocketbooks! It is time to think about the environment,"

I agree that we all have to think about the environment,and I for one would be among the first to vote for a party that had a workable plan for improving it,but the Green-shift is not the way to do it,and neither is voting for the so-called green party.
I live in a rural area...a small village in eastern Ontario, and if the green shift is implemented it will cost me about $700 in year four.
My house has been totally renovated and has just about the max as far as insulation is concerned and triple glass windows...all appliances are the latest and the termostat is set at 18c,and I don't use the central air.
As all my nieghbours have said if this plan gets implimented we are all going back to wood stoves...and they are a REAL polluter.
This plan is just a Liberal tax grab that will do nothing for the enviroment and cause a marked increase in the cost of living,the real polluters merely passing the costs onto you and I without doing anything to actually reduce GHG output.
Ms May of the Green Party may have the good of the environment at heart,but the idea of just shutting down the tar sands and closing every plant that pollutes will reduce GHG all right,but will definately increase the line ups at the Canada Manpower offices!
I believe what this country needs is a full time full staffed govt run corporation that is fully funded and does nothing except research ways to reduce industrial pollution,work on renewable energy and design viable vehicles that run on hydrogen or battery power...that would benefit the whole world and create jobs
That is where I want to see my money going, not on some tax scam.


George from Brampton
said

Marion I think about the enviroment. I live in an apt. and have been a super at this bldg. I know what it costs for hydro and heat. I can guarantee you my rent will rise 40-50%. It has to and nothing can be done to change our heating system. I have one car and a 2 bdrm apt. I am on pension and cannot afford a rent increase of this magnitude. Our windows have been replaced 2 yrs ago with quality ones. Most people live from paycheque to paycheque and cannot afford any signifigant increase. Don't think for one minute Dion will give you back all the extra you will pay in heating - hydro - consumers goods cost. You will get a small portion only, he has stated he will take 40B from carbon tax for other projects. Revenue Neutral it is NOT.


Marlin
said

Those that compare Harper to GWB reallydon't get it. The Conservative party is more left wing than the Democratic party. harper is not even close to GWB.

Canada is in for some very hard times like everyone else in the G8. I want a Government that is equipped to stimulate not stiffle the economy. I want a leader that looks and acts like a leader.

Everyone that slams Mulroney should also remember that NAFTA allowed the Chretien and Martin governments to enjoy the large UNDECLARED surpluses. Without it we would have been set back many years.




Edward J Smith in Newfoundland
said

Mr. Harper, do I understand you are promising 300 million dollars over 4 years in regional economic development? On average, that's about 75 million dollars per year?

In my hometown of Corner Brook, in western Newfoundland, we alone need 75 million dollars a year to replace crumbling sidewalks, roads, and water and sewer lines, and we need at least another 90 million dollars for a sewage treatment plant to stop the flow of thousands of litres of raw sewage in our beautiful Bay of Islands.

I wrote you as an ordinary citizen two years ago and asked you to visit our town and helps us. You never came.

Too bad that you have waited a week before the election for this 300 million dollar announcement.

Why not take some of the 50 billion dollar surplus from the Employment Insurance fund and use that for regional economic development?

That would really make people think you are serious.


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