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Date: Fri. Sep. 26 2008 8:26 PM ET
Key Democrats say they believe an agreement will be reached by Sunday on a massive bailout package the White House has put forward after the largest banking collapse in U.S. history.
The Bush administration had been hoping the deal would be done by Friday, but House Republicans - many of whom are up for re-election this fall - have been stalling on a compromise plan and ended those negotiations on Thursday.
House Republican plans want serious consideration of a plan of their own, with a lower price tag than the $700 billion originally proposed.
Democratic House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said late Friday that progress was being made, though neither she nor Massachusetts Representative Barney Frank would reveal details of their discussions with Republicans.
"The legislative process is sometimes not very pretty," U.S. President George Bush said earlier Friday, as he called on Congress to end the squabbling.
"But we are going to get a package passed. We will rise to the occasion. Republicans and Democrats will come together and pass a substantial rescue plan."
Speaking outside the Oval Office, Bush acknowledged there are challenges that come with such a major proposal, and said the issue is further complicated by the speed at which the US$700 bailout has been pushed forward.
"The legislative process is sometimes not very pretty but we are going to get a package fast. We are going to get a package passed," Bush said.
Democrats were quick to blame Republican presidential candidate John McCain on derailing the bailout plan, which looked like a done deal Thursday afternoon.
"We don't need presidential politics in this. All he has done is stand in front of the cameras," Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said of McCain.
McCain suspended his campaign on Wednesday to focus on the bailout and said he would not attend Friday's debate unless a deal was reached.
However, he did not arrive in Washington until Thursday and the deal broke down shortly after he attended a summit meeting at the White House.
On Friday, McCain decided he would attend the debate and left Capital Hill without a deal.
Republican lawmakers have so far rejected the massive proposal. House Minority leader John Boehner suggested that instead of the government buying the distressed securities, it would insure them.
Congressmen are listening to their constituents and the polls. In an Associated Press-Knowledge Networks poll released Friday, only 30 per cent of Americans surveyed expressed support for Bush's package.
But some veteran stock market watchers say otherwise.
"Congress has to pass a bailout bill, if they don't come Monday, the markets could go to hell in a handbasket," Harvey Pitt, former security exchange commission chairman, said.
And as negotiations dragged on this week, another bank failed. Washington Mutual was seized by the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. on Thursday and its assets were sold to JPMorgan Chase & Co. for $1.9 billion -- making it the largest bank in U.S. history to fail.
Bush hopes his bailout plan will stem the bleeding in the financial sector, and is hoping for a deal before markets open on Monday.
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I applaud the budget, even though Health Care and education may stay unscathed. Sadly this cannot last and I worry to later this year where cuts will become enviable. If anything, this provides the Wildrose Alliance plenty of ammo when an election is called.


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Mark E
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I cannot see how a disaster like this would not deeply affect Canada. Canadians are sitting on an enormous pile of debt fom years of cheap interest rates, easy credit and 0 down/0% financing. The system in the US was more fraudulent and irresponsible but it would no take much of an economic spillover to start the avalanche here.
Wes
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Nick in Gatineau
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Our government agreed and gave Carte Blanche to go shopping for these types of products and to sell these products here in Canada.
In order to sell such products an institution has to have something called Account Dilution; it reduces the risk factor of an account within its Assets to below the 5% mark. Usually lies between 1 to 4% depending on the risk of the product. That means that any given product cannot result in a loss greater than 1 to 4% of its value at any given time and that the asset can cover such a loss at any given time.
A prime example of this is when you here government say that it has put 300 Million $ towards a program, and then another 300 towards other programs and another 300, you know there is dilution.
The problem is that a diluted account is based on the following: Self-sufficiency, self-preservation, and self-quaratine. The moment 1 of these is no longer applicable, the dilution ceases to exist. When 2 of these cease to function and thus the very nature of that account has been overlooked for a long period of time, it becomes internal fraud.
Now they say that everything in Canada is fine. I don't call 30 Billion $ influx of cash over the past year fine. I also don't admire this growing sentiment that all financial institutions are not responsible and that it is somehow strictly the consumers' fault.
Michelle
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Even my kids know that they can't borrow more money than they can afford to pay back or lend money they can't afford to lose. No way this should be happenning in the adult world.
Frank Miller
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La Tuna
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By the way Wes, I like the comment, it made me think. Reminds me of when Napoleon and the French were trying to take over Russia, he strayed to far from home, lost many men on the way and was defeated horribly by the Russians, upon his return Napoleon was exiled after the French revolted. You would think the Americans would learn from past mistakes like that, but they also went through the great depression, and now look at them!
Don H. K.L.
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Let's clean house now..
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We have very greedy investment bankers here as well who have caused havoc on our TSX without impunity naked shorting stocks etc because our regulators are lax and don't do their job.
As long as our regulators stand idly by and allow these people to do what they continue to do our markets are in jeopardy.
Personally I fail to see how principle of shorting stocks contributes to a healthy market system. I would ban shorting completely and have it vigorously monitored and enforced.
Regulators should NOT be taken from the industry so you don't keep getting the old fox looking after the chicken coop.
Unless and until we all participate and demand a clean up it wont happen. Everyone who has mutual finds, stocks are being affected to varying degrees no exceptions.
Dr. MW
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I wish more people would actually inform themselves, rather than just saying the banks and executives caused this mess.
Yes, banks lent money much too freely and government had no oversight or formulas in place for how much a person should be allowed to borrow. But it is the American homeowner's absolute greed which really brought on this meltdown.
People knowingly borrowed much more than they could afford. They knowingly took out interest only mortgages, expecting to be able to flip a house for a huge profit every two years.
I only feel sorry for homeowners who did not max out their credit and were prudent fiscal managers. Any homeowner who lost or is at risk of losing their home because they overextended themselves need only look in the mirror to see who's to blame for their predicament. Of course, no politician will ever say this because it won't get a lot of votes.
Whatever happened to personal responsibility?
Jon in Petawawa
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Robin the Hood
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Just wait....
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Martin5519
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Something I don't get.. the per capita debt in the States is around $31 to $32,000 per person. With that Bailout, it would go to $34,000.. doesn't seem like it's anything super crazy. Their dept is already very high...
What am I missing?
Don't get me wrong, I think it's crazy that these firms are getting bailed out... so unfair to everyone else.
Let the correction begin.
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I am very disappointed to see that many people who comment on this site still refuse to admit the utter failure of socialism. A lot of things in garbage bins in the U.S. and Canada are still better than the best things the Russians and Chinese were making under their communists systems!
It is more clear to me why capitalists go to war against the left. My father operated a 50 calibre machine gun in Korea against some of them. The far left are just a bunch of liars and sadly some of them will have to be shot down!
Reece
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Steph
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Donald
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The USA and its people need to take their medicine and the longer it is put off, the harder it is going to be.
The system was allowed to run amok for years, now it is time to pay the piper.
I believe, when you step back objectively and not view with panic in your eyes, there is no good way out,but there is a way to make it worse, saddle more debt on the working man and his kids.
Mark my words, if this goes through, it is only to buy time until after the US election.
Also, ask yourself, how does this help the average family out who is about to loose thier home. There are still 100's of thousands of surplus homes on the market, and many more who have mortgages that are much larger than their home's value.
This bailout is not for them...IT IS FOR THE SAME PEOPLE WHO CREATED THE MESS!
Wake up, these people are only looking after each other!
Kevin in Fredericton
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Nick in Gatineau
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If you know your customer will be eating Kraft diner, you don't give him a mortgage, a credit line and a credit card offer to boot. All the while telling him that a beamer would look great in that new driveway.
FCS
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"If you know your customer will be eating Kraft diner, you don't give him a mortgage, a credit line and a credit card offer to boot."
While I agree with your point I refuse to sit here and let you bad mouth Kraft Dinner. I made over 65 k last year and I still find myself occassionaly craving the cheap orange filler we all grew up on.There's just something about KD, especially when the pasta is just right, mmmmm. Is it lunch yet?
Ed in Alberta
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Gail (Hamilton)
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Eric
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This was caused by banks that lent money to people who could not afford to pay it back. They should not have lent the money out. This was also caused by the home buyers themselves. They borrowed money they should have known they could not pay back. If you can't afford something you should not buy it. I want it is not good enough. People have free will. They can say no. Some of the responsibility has to fall on the regulators for allowing this to go on.
This really is a failure of common sense. Blaming this mess on the government alone or on capitalism is a way of not taking person responsibility.
Murray
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Prof. Pye Chartt
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By sticking its hand into the mortgage banking industry to create a secure market for mortgages (in practicum, backing them up), while maintaining no control of those institutions and investment firms who played in the real estate game, the government (Democrats & Republicans) upset the natural checks and balances that inherently exist within free-market capitalism.
If you think you're witnessing the result of unbridled capitalism, you're misinformed and sadly mistaken. You're just delivering empty partisan rhetoric in absence of the facts.
Markets work best when they're free. Capitalism with a fork stuck in its side doesn't work. The S & L crisis of 1991 was rooted in the same interference (the government insured institutional deposits while allowing those banks to play in the real estate game without restriction. Again, this isn't free-market capitalism. Without the "insurance," countless depositors wouldn't have lent their money to banks to gamble with... I hope this clears things up.
Paul out West
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George W. threw his country into so many messes. It'll take Barack Obama years to clean up the economic and social mess caused by the American conservatives (assuming Obama wins of course).
Ed
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Another hurricane's a comin'!
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George
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The US government will now be the 'owner' of more homes than any lending institution. Old Nikita K. must be having a good laugh.
Darren in fredericton
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Sylvain
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Holidays on credit. Houses way bigger than we need. A car for everyone. TV in every room. I-Pods and I-Phones in every pocket. And most on credit.
We carry way more debt than we ever did in previous generations.
We borrow and borrow and save next to nothing. Sure the banks made it easy and advertising media made us think we needed these but it was we that bought in.
Now we need to adjust our expectations because the economy is already in recession. Even if our "honest" politicians tell us otherwise. At this point I'll be happy if we avoid a full on depression!
The markets and indeed our attitudes towards money is due for a correction. A BIG one.
Look back two generations at how our grandfathers lived. They did not have most of the made in china junk we have today and they were no less happy.
The banks and financial institutions have sucked all the interest out of us the credit customer. Now many of us can't keep up and the debts go bad. Too many bad debts and pop the bubble bursts.
Let the banks burn. The government would do better rounding up all the fat cats that allowed this ugly mess to happen.
Problem is the politicians would probably be a large part of that group.
What a mess...
Charley Rose
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Dave in Waterloo
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Peter Hunziker
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Whether or not that 700B will save the market still remains the million $ question. The damage has been done with or without the big infusion. Not only Americans are paying for it but many innocent countries are bearing the consequences of the criminal negligence displayed by some of the biggest corporations in the world..... lead by some badly overpaid CEOs. I erroneously believed that the 1929 experience served as a lecture to some lawmakers; I should have known better.
Now we shouldn't be surprised to see the Dollar go..... in the wheelbarrow...uh I hope not.
PVT
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J. McDonald - North Bay
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In my opinion, they each are no less than traiters/terrorists from within. They have basically killed millions of ordinary people with their own greed.
It's exactly like the biblical phrase I learned as a child: "Love of money is the root of all evil."
The more highlights of ruin... gas, oil, food, pet food, produce etc and now milk - I hear on the news, I shake my head and comment, "NOBODY is watching the store!" RIDICULOUSLY WELL PAID "NOBODYs".
GHW
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U.S. big money business has the general population so brainwashed with fear of socialism that they can’t see the benefit of a measured small amount. Did you hear McCain describe our Medicare system? Like going to see your doctor had to be screened and approved by some KGB agent. Get a grip! In general Canadians love our Medicare system even with the long wait times to see specialists. Anytime I need to see my doctor I call his office and within a week I see him and receive excellent help. No hassle, no worries and no bill to pay.
Rosie
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Alan Greenspan warned this would happen and yet the Democrats killed the bill. Go blame Bush all you want because it happened during his presidency but they keep records of how congressman vote. McCain voted for new regulations, Obama voted against. Hope McCain brings this up tonite, I'd like to hear Obama's explanation for voting to kill that bill.
Chris
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Don't trust GW