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NDP Leader Jack Layton, right, responds to Beverly Thomson during an appearance on CTV's Canada AM on Monday Sept. 22, 2008. (Jacques Boissinot / THE CANADIAN PRESS)
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Layton open to NDP coalition with Liberals
Updated Mon. Sep. 22 2008 11:11 AM ET
CTV.ca News
The New Democratic Party is open to forming a coalition with the Liberals if it would help implement the party's policies, NDP Leader Jack Layton said Monday.
Layton, speaking to CTV's Canada AM, hinted he would work with the Liberals if the two parties combined won more seats in Parliament than the Tories on Oct. 14.
"I've worked with any other party, I think people have seen that," Layton said.
"Maybe it goes back to my days as municipal councillor -- you roll up your sleeves and you try to solve a problem. And I think the problem we have is Stephen Harper and his Conservatives."
However, when asked if he'd agree to a formal arrangement, Layton was more evasive.
"I think what I'll do is, hopefully, sit down in the Prime Minister's Office and pull together the leadership of my party and say, 'How can we best serve the country? How can we best get that child-care program that we committed to?"' he said.
"`How can we best get those doctors and nurses trained to deal with these wait times that are really concerning families?' And let's make it happen."
Layton attacked the Tories, saying the party was taking Canada down the "wrong path" with policies that mirror those of U.S. President George Bush.
The NDP leader also repeated his promise to immediately withdraw Canadian troops from Afghanistan if his party wins the election.
"We've seen soldiers' deaths up, civilian deaths up, (opium) poppy production up, corruption is up. More of the country is too dangerous now to even provide aid or development," he said.
"Let's use the instruments of the UN that we created to reduce conflict, let's have a co-ordinated and comprehensive approach."
Later Monday, during a campaign stop in Hamilton, Ont., Layton said the only real priority of the Harper government was a $50 billion corporate tax cut.
He promised not to implement Tory tax cuts if elected.
Layton will be in Montreal Monday afternoon for a rally.
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Unite the right and the left, then we can get down to some serious choices, Go Jack!
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Be careful when making a pact with the devil, Jack.
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"Let's use the instruments of the UN that we created to reduce conflict, let's have a co-ordinated and comprehensive approach."
Yeah - those are working real well in the Middle East, Sudan, Somalia, North Korea, etc.
What would you like the UN to do Jack while the Taliban take over the area from departing soldiers and start to exercise their own special "negotiating" with the remaining civilians?
Maybe we could invite them to a Cum-by-ya songalong session in the forest?
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Talk about your worst possible scenario.. NDP running the country with Liberal support.
Let's just bankrupt the country now
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Say anything Jack - it's easy when you have no chance of winning.
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It is time to unite the Left to prevent the neoconservatives from destroying our country as they have systematically destroyed our friends to the south... Massive debts, destruction of the middle class, Never ending war, and removal of rights and freedoms is what the Conservative movement has become...
We can't allow these people to do to Canada what they have done to America. They have poved over the last 8 years their policies are wrong and ineffective...
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NDP/Lib coalition gov: This is MUCH scarier than a Conservative majority. Seeing as the lib's have a severe leadership vacume, this would essentially put Jack Layton & co. in charge. Besides, the lib's shift lately to the left puts them more in line with NDP general policy than ever before.
Which means we'll be broke as a country in one term - unemployment up, poverty up. I seriously hope this terrifying situation doesn't happen.
On the other note, a Layton Official Opposition I would welcome, seeing as the Lib's effectively abdicated it anyways in the last Parliment by sitting on their hands on a plethera of issues. A strong government needs a competent Opposition to keep the pressure on, thereby keeping things in check.
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And this is how the Tory majority will come about...i'm more scared of a socialist majority than a centre-rightist one
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Jack and his minions are nothing but political parasites attaching themselves to anything that will advance their self-righteous left-wing agenda.
The only way Jack is going to see the inside of the Prime Minister's Office is through a guided tour like the rest of us.
No real plan, no real impact, no real effectiveness; NO REAL RELEVANCE
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The coalition idea sounded OK until you shot your foot off by saying you will not implement tax cuts.
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Jack, You can promise the moon. It's a good thing people are smart enough to realise we can't afford a social gov. A snowball in hades has a better chance. A vote for the NDP is a wasted vote.
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If Dion is supportive of this idea watch for a flood of "blue Liberals" to switch their vote to the conservatives.
Stephane?
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The thought of "Prime Minister" Jack Layton and "Deputy Prime Minister" Stephane Dion gives me nightmares. Let's hope Stephen Harper gets his majority and Canadians can focus on something other than an election over the next four years.
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I am interested in seeing another minority government this coming election, which one 'runs the show' matters less than that the parties becoming more interdependent. I think its scary business to have one part run the whole show without needing to work together with the other parties. If a few more short term minority governments can teach our politicians to work together 'across the aisle', then I think it's worth going to the polls on a regular basis. I don't want any one party to have majority status; rather, let's see real conversation, authentic dialogue, and mutual partnerships that benefit the voters and not a single leader or party.
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There is only one thing scarier than a Dion government..that would be having Layton in charge. Taliban Jack would destroy our country with high taxes and massive spending. Say hello to a socialists utopia!
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I never cease to be amazed by the left in this country trying to put forward the argument that the Conservative Party of Canada is NEO CONSERVATIVE.
They clearly do not understand the meaning of the word.
Try reading something by Paul Wolfowitz.
That is true neo conservatism.
The CPC is about as far right as the more conservative members of the democratic party in the US.
What such arguments tell really is HOW FAR LEFT the Liberals and NDP have gone.
As Winston Churchill once said. "Capitalism may distribute the wealth unevenly. But Socialism truly distributes the poverty and misery evenly".
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It's about time that some political party is finally seeing what is needed. A coalition of 2 parties to run the country. Those of you who are scared of Jack Layton's policies need to read more into it. The policies he is implenting will improve the quality of life in Canada for the less fortunate. We are a country that defends the weak and less fortunate around the world, why not on our own soil? It's about time, and I will definitely support a coalition between the Liberals and the NDP. Go Jack! Now we have to wait to hear what Stephane Dion says, and whether he would agree to it.
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I think this is an amazing idea, this is what should of been done a long time ago. But instead of just forming a coalition i think they just create a whole new party. Liberals and NDP as one, this way we would never see another right wing party come near the leadership of this country again. And no matter what the Mr. Layton critics have to say about hime, you cannot deny that he is the only politician we have that speaks the truth and never wavers in his ideals just to buy votes. ie. 'Mr. Harper' Its about time we give the NDP a chance, because obviously the Cons and the Libs have had there chances and we really cant trust either.
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That statement could be all that it takes to give the Conservatives the majority they need. Mr. Layton seems to have forgotten that his party is even less popular than the Liberals. He is now chasing Liberal supporters away from their own party. What was he thinking?
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So Jack really is no better than a Liberal..I always thought that, now I know!
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lol The Liberal party is now part Green Party, and soon to be part NDP. Obviously the Liberals can't stand on their own merits.
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This would be a government much closer to what the majority of Canadians want.
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"However, when asked if he'd agree to a formal arrangement, Layton was more evasive."
Kind of like how he was "evasive" with the deal he made with the Marijuana party.
I saw the video of him pleading with the members of the Marijuana party. It sure looked to me like he was looking for their support.
Back room, (or basement in the case) deal... I though Jack didn't do such things.
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NeoCONS Harperites CONservatives C.R.A.P. (Canadian Reform Party of Canada)
Your sky is falling and it is not just the apples experienced by Chicken Little.
Canadians are smarter than you would like to believe.
We see through the gag orders of Steve, the childish sarcasm of Van Loan, and the wool of the MP sheep in your party.
We know why Steve called an "unwinable majority" election. We know he is avoiding the mounting mountain of inquiries into the dirty dealings he and his party are involved in. And we know what to expect from him in the future.
To the current CONservative MPs, start preparing your resumes, but seriously consider whether or not you truly want to reveal your ties to this party and this man. Your tax payer homes may depend on it.
As for coalitions, we are seeing our country come together against Stevie-boy's rightwing ratical road to Americanism.
Anything But CONservative
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Jack....please, the fact that you would form a coalition with anyone speaks volumes to the fact how desperate and weak the NDP really is. An elected national party should be able to stand on it's own in a position of strength. What's this about wait times, it's not nearly as bad as it seems. Just about anyone I know who has been to emergency lately say the exact opposite, after all we are not talking about MacDonalds here. Again you drone on about Harper being like Bush. I think not. All you have to do is pick up any newspaper in recent history, to find out that is simply not true!!! (bank crisis for 1 example) typical NDP fear mongering. How dare you insult our troops about immediate withdrawl. We should force you live there and feel the desperation these poor people have to endure. Our troops are like angels to these people. the only thing wrong there is that we need more help and fast You missed the fact that the UN is basically useless to stop violence. Even if it did Canadian troops would still be there under the UN flag therefore nothing gained. I guess you would not implement tax cuts, you need to raise them period, to pay for all those ridiculous wasteful promises. Keep it up Jack, keep showing those awful NDP colours.
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Good going Jack. Now my Liberal vote is going to prop up the NDP. This is obviously all about you and nothing about what is best for Canada. Thanks to you Mr. Layton, I will now be voting Conservative.
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If this happens just take your paycheque and give it to the federal government in return for bureaucracy.
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Scary. Jack really wants in for a crack at having a say in our lives.
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Layton and Dion together would be a disaster for Canada and we would be taxed to death. This is the best annoucement Mr Harper could hear as many voters will vote conservative for sure and his majority is now a reality. This is the best thing Layton has ever done. Go Harper Go majority all the way.
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The Liberals and Conservatives are closer together than the Liberals and NDP.
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Mark, your words will fall on deaf ears, listen to what the neo-con posters keep repeating: the Taliban are gonna come and get us, our economy will implode, we will all become Muslims. All these people do is spread fear and it usually works. They have no actual facts. Read the post by Al Wood. He is defending another massive tax cu to corps, so they can off shore our jobs. That's a Taliban for you!
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Will this be the same agreement he had with Marc Emery and the Marijuana Party?
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Sounds like a desperation cry from Layton to try to attain power that he would never get with the NDP alone. Let's hope we have a Conservative Majority so Dion and Layton can just natter like they always do, with no threat of another election for four years. God help our country if the Socialists take over.
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Is there really any difference,between the NDP and the Libs,since Dion took the helm? They're both extreme Left wing Parties now,not just the NDP. ,,,and ready to bankrupt the Country.
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I WANT to see this coalition happen. This is the best possible scenario. Thankyou Jack for saying it. We need to start electing progressives to stop this Harper gov't from gutting our government's ability to help its citizens.
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Chris, you talk about a bankrupt country.
Conservatives in the US. - Worst financial situation since the great depression.
Conservatives in Canada - biggest (and only) deficit since...the last conservative government.
Plus potential hidden agenda items...deregulation of healthcare, banking etc. What will be next. We don't know because the government that won on transparancy is the most secretive goverment we have ever had.
And you still want to vote for them. When you are broke, and can't get credit, and the police pull you over for random checks, and your phone is tapped, and the country that you used to call canada now resembles a mix between say, Soviet-era Russia, and present day USA tell me who you want to vote for then.
Don't fall for it!
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To Phil in Montreal - sorry but the PROGRESSIVE Conservatives already made that pact with the devil..that's why they don't exist anymore and although the media keeps referring to TORIES, we all know the governing party is REFORM. Sir John A's conservatives are, quite sadly, no more.
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I think that Jack Layton just became my new hero. I'm a Liberal in a Sea of Blue Polluted waters here in Alberta and the thought of a Conservitive Majority with Sweater Boy at the Helm is too scary to even think about.
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JACK LAYTON 4 PM!! He'll get our troops out of Afghanistan ASAP.
Bush brainwashed Harper to send our troops over there to get OIL. As of yesterday, the US is running out of OIL.
Send our troops and ecologists up North to find some OIL with the Russians! STOP INSTIGATING WAR & GENOCIDE!
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Hmmm. Sounds like they are open to cooperating with the Liberals. How long before Stephen Harper suggests that the NDP, like the Greens, should not be allowed in the televised debates?
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Jack is that hungry for power he will sleep with any body and if Dion will not dance with him then the bloc will be next on Jack's dance card. HUNGER and POWER go for it Jack.
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Herb, only socialists, communists want this majority. Not the majority of Canadians. An NDP/Liberal coalition would be an even bigger joke than the two joke parties they already are.
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Dave in Surrey doesn't realise that the "right" here is Canada is more left than the Democrats in the States.
Harper has done nothing of the scary tactics the Liberals and NDP have threatened. I agree that the left should unit but one thing that liberal Canadians don't understand is the that political drive of the left is so fanatical that the left will remain fractured.
I would hate to see a coalition form and then disintegrate 2 years in and then Harper has to take the reins and fix the mess. I for one welcome our Conservative overlords - majority please.
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Finally! How do you think the Conservatives made it back from the Mulroney years that left the party decimated? They formed the coalition with the Reform Party, who were essentially just extreme conservatives. That is exactly the only way we will ever bounce this idiot from power.
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| Ray Worsnop, Estevan, Sask |
We already have a child care program Mr. Layton, it's called " Parents ".
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| Down with the Left Wing Hidden Agenda |
Well the LEFT WING HIDDEN AGENDA is NOW REVEALED.
This has been the plan all along. Not only will Dion and Layton destroy the Canadian economy but would also cause a big enough rift between the West and the rest of Canada. Do you think that a Brad Wall or an Ed Stelmach will put up with the Layton/Dion partnership in the destruction of the Western Canadian Economy through their "Environmental" ops I mean tax and spend policies directed at hurting Western Canada and Newfoundland?
Watch out Canada. With these two in kahoots......
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Ontario remembers what happened when the NDP was elected to run a PROVINCE. With that memory, I think there's little doubt that, at best, the NDP will be the opposition in Parliament.
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Chris: Speaking of bankrupting the country -- wasn't it Mulroney & his Conservatives who left office with a huge deficit back in '93? Hmmm, if memory serves me, it was the Liberals who fixed that mess and passed on a nice little surplus to Mr. Harper & his neo-cons just a few years ago. Oooops! What happened to that surplus (you know, the one that could have helped us out of current economic problems and rebuilt some of our infrastructure????) Oh, yes, Harper, Flaherty (didn't he do enough damage in Ontario?) et al happened. If history repeats itself -- bring back the Liberals!
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JACK.....YOU FORGOT POOR ELIZABETH MAY.
Will the green shift have to be renamed the green-orange shift ??
Good thing Elizabeth is riding the train....before they are all gone.
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Jack is getting this right. No inner bickering with progressives will be a big help. This election will be used to define Canada. If the conservatives win, vis a vis a split, I hate to think what will be left of Canadaian enlightenment of the Pearson/Douglas/Treadeu era.
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So, Jack, Are you saying that you would work against a lawfully elected government in a manner that would prevent parliament from functioning unless it implements YOUR agenda ? Eventhough the majority of Canadians clearly voted AGAINST your agenda. Wow, not only is this self serving and underhanded, but canceling the votes of millions of citizens thru your "coalitions" sounds down right treasonous!
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The only absolute is, "there are no absolutes"and that goes for politics and especially political philosophies of either the right or the left. Look to the south and see what deregulation in the name of "laize a faire capitalism and the market can determine its own wants and needs". Who is paying for this, its the ordinary citizens with a 700 billion bail out. Remember the trickle down theory, who can't forget it with a dwindling middle class and greater concentration of wealth in the hands of a few. As for the left who wouldn't support a utopian society with every social need and service provided, but there's the problem of paying for it. I for one am sightly right of centre, but I'm definitely not a "reform conservative". I believe in the separation of church and state, but believe in both in their separate spheres. I don't believe in concept of "creeping conservatism", for the simple reason that if "they" have to move it in incremental steps that in itself is a deceitful act. I believe in strong minority governments for the simple reason of compromise as to where we the citizens can potentially have the best of all philosophies as opposed to the tyranny of the majority or in a majority govt. I say lets not give anyone of them what they desire but only what they deserve. Majorities give politician the mistaken belief that they govern by decree and not consensus and when it's the latter we all lose.
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Bill says "Chris Talk about your worst possible scenario.. NDP running the country with Liberal support.
Let's just bankrupt the country now"
A little late for that Harper has already taken us to the edge of recssion and were about to fall in..
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The Neocons are very weak, yes Harper is a strong leader but so was Mark Messier and look what he did for the Canucks...You can't run a nation the size of Canada with ONE competent person, you need a team that can be relied upon to take control and not make pathetic jokes or leave secret documets at their Hells Angels Girlfriends apartment...
We need a strong TEAM to run this country, Dion and Liberals bring that to Canada, and adding in the strength of a few NDP mp's only adds to the over all strength of our government...
In times of peril you need a team, not an individual... With all the horrible gaffs from the Cons it is only proof Harper can't reign in his weak team any longer, they have been quiet for too long... Fear them if they get a majority, your rights willbe taken away, your pensions will be spent, your children will pay off your debts like we are paying for the 70's/80's...
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To those of you that wonders what it would be like, having such an agreement just look back in History. 1974 Liberal, under Pierre E Trudeau's minority government, made an agreement to work with BIG Ed. One of the most complimented government. In Ontario, Peterson's Liberal Gov. signed a two year term agreement with the NDP, very good for Ontario... So I think it could be the best solution for this time in this fragile world of today... And I'm a 100% Liberal!!! GOOD LUCK TO EVERYONE IF THIS SHOULD HAPPEN... Because a Harper Majority Gov. will kill or badly cripple this wonderful country of ours... God Bless Canada!!!
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| Mandosa in Sarnia, Ontario |
"Let's use the instruments of the UN that we created to reduce conflict, let's have a co-ordinated and comprehensive approach." I keep reading and re-reading this.... What on earth does this really mean Jack?! Is it really possible that you actually believe the meaningless dribble that comes out of your mouth? Have you been at this game that long?
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jack,i grew up in a NDP house.i totally support you but you are only strongest in the west. if you took the party and amalgamated with the liberals that would be a force to recon with. both you & Dion have the qualities: the working poor,the environment,no war,support the UN,food quality,just to name a few. you would be the dream team and with Obama in nov's US election..I think this como of enlighted souls would rise the bar for canada [and the disgraced USA]on the world stage-like our european neighbours
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Expected this from Taliban Jack.Is this his plan to become Prime Minister? Join with the Liberals and take over as Leader of the Liberal Party.Watch your back Mr. Dion!!
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Say anything, promise anything, do anyhing, lie, cheat, misguide, all just to get elected, that's what our elections have become. A disgrace to the institution of democracy and NOT what our forefathers ever envisioned to properly run a country. Personally I will not be bought because my vote is NOT for sale. Take a long hard look at how each of our Provinces have been run by the various Parties over the years and remember which ones have been successful and which ones have been run into the ground. Works if there are succesful Provinces to bail out the others, but what if you run the whole country into the ground WHAT THEN.
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I have to laugh at those who say that Harper cannot be a one man show, a "leader" needs a team to run this country.
Funny, Churchill did pretty good, didn't hear much of his team.
Come to think of it so did FDR.
A leader inspires those to achieve more than they are capable doing.
Harper is almost there. Dion, Layton and May do not have that confidence.
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Layton wants a seat at the Liberal cabinet table, but he spent most of the last parliament posturing to make the Liberals look bad, with the only result being that the Conservatives looked stronger. Jack Layton is just a politician; he doesn't have the integrity of Ed Broadbent. The only way he's going to have a role in the next government is if he completes the NDP sellout to the Tories that he started.
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Does the left have any policy to discuss or do we just listen to your constant name calling and put downs? Grade school children sound more intelligent...
Stevie-boy's rightwing radical road to Americanism; Harper is Bush; Bush brainwashed Harper to send our troops over there; Sweater Boy at the Helm
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Well, combine the NDP's usual socialist tax increases with the carbon tax and you'll get a broke and bankrupt country. Just like good old Bob Rae did to Ontario. If this coalition comes together I'm leaving the country.
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Shot in the foot!
What people like Jack Layton don't understand is that suggesting a coalition with the Liberals just makes even more people want to vote CPC. Thank God these clowns could never be in power. Zero credibility, zero integrity.
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GaryinWpg Are you serious? FDR had Ike as a general, not to mention a huge pool of talent to lean on and give advice...
You really need to go learn some history if you are claiming Churchill and FDR were a 1 man team who won WW2...
You are SO far off base with that comment it isn't even funny... Go back to your Neocon war room and try rewriting history again...
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Sharon in North York -
Your memory serves you but appears to be quite selective.
Hmmmm, if memory serves me, it was the Mulroney Conservatives who inherited a nasty deficit from the Trudeau Liberals and it was the Chretien Liberals who eliminated it using initiatives brought in by the Mulroney Conservatives, (GST, NAFTA) as well as making massive cuts to provincial transfer payments.
Funny, even though they managed to slash the deficit through questionable means and posted ridiculous surpluses they still managed to throw taxpayer money away. (Gun Registry, Sponsorship).
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Dave in Surrey. It is pretty silly to suggest that the people who we elected to form the government of Canada had any impact in what is happening in the US at the moment. And the attempt to equate politically conservative with an unpopular president in another country is childish, immature, and purely a weak attempt at fear-mongering.
Despite the neolibs (what actually is a neocon?) and their claims to the contrary, Canadians want a strong leader whose values are well-grounded. We don't want or need political leadership that decreases the value of men, women, and children. We don't want a party that thinks money solves everything. We don't want a government that wants to exert 'thought control' on our children.
And the proof of this will be evident when you wake up October 15th.
Cheers.
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The NDP anywhere near power would not only bankrupt the country it would lead to a serious Constitutional crisis as B.C., Alberta and Saskatchewan would get the Green Shaft. In my view, a Liberal/NDP coalition would lead to talk of separation, particularly from Alberta and likely B.C. as well.
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| Charles Reid, Nanaimo B.C |
So, another leader abandons a major part of his campaign. Whatever happened to "forget the Liberals. I am the man for PM and it is me who is going to take Stephen Harper's job." No wonder the media could barely keep a straight face when good old Jack first said it.
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O my goodness.This is the biggest joke yet.It will never happen.
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"I've worked with any other party, I think people have seen that," Layton said.
The Marijuana Party will tell the Libs not to trust Layton.
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| Beware of pushy polticians with ambition |
Jack can see the finish line in sight and is starting to realize his "leadership" bid was rejected by Canadians so he now wants to force himself on Canadians through a coalition.
Not a good move Jack. Take your lumps like other politicians have to do.
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It sure would be nice of the political rhetoric could be toned down on all sides. This election campaign is needlessly nasty and so many of the online comments from Canadians (read: too often political operatives) are just negative, aggressive and do not contribute to any real debate.
How about talking about various policies and how to improve the lives of all Canadians, instead of just "Leader X is an idiot and so are their policies because [insert reason why you're better here]."
Politics in this country has been getting done (or not done) in the same fashion for too many decades and, frankly, I'd welcome a coalition government with New Democrats holding the balance of power. For once, there would be someone keeping the ruling party more honest and accountable - something the Liberals and Conservatives can hardly lay claim to (Accountability Act, or not).
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To: Mark from Thunder Bay
I have read his policies and I am scared of them. I lived through NDP governments in BC. Plus look at Bob Rae in Ontario. Pretty bad that I am scared of him I am in the army.
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So, does this mean that Jack wants a Carbon Tax??
Jack, your party voted against or abstained from every vote taken the last session.
You can't work with anyone.
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So now we have the "Green Democratic Liberals" Whose going to partner with the liberals next the Bloc?
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Canadians should ignore labels NDP, Liberals, Green, ReformCPC. We should vote with TLC for who we are ... TraditionallyLovingCanadians.
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Wow you must love the aggressive reaction by all the conservative fans on this page, you would think by the hysterical reaction that Lenin was running!lol Relax my right wing friends breathe deep and just tell yourselves that your brand of extreme right wing economics has already destroyed the US and that more and more people do not believe your fear mongering. I mean honestly, if you think its all sweet as things are now you may want to move to the US! And to the "anti tax" fanatics he is talking about the rich here. you know the same ones that rip you off at the gas pump for example.
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Is this the same Jack that while he was a municipal councillor lived in low cost housing and said he did not know he wasn't supposed to be living there while serving on Toronto Council.
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The worst possible government we could have is a Liberal minority supported by the NDP.
Anyone who is old enough to remember the Trudeau/NDP government in the 70's will know that is how we ended up with the socilaist ideas we have today.
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Dion already said Liberal=Green. Now Jack says Liberal=NDP. So we will have Liberal=Green=NDP. Can you imagine that?
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It's beginning to strike me strange that no one seems to be asking the obvious. In another minority situation, a not totally unlikely scenario, what are ALL the parties prepared do to expedite a more efficiently operating parliament? None of this, "well, you'll have to ask the other guy" stuff. I want to know specifically, what each of the party leaders is prepared to do *themselves* to make a new parliament work better than the last one.
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Actually this would work out well. I wish they made this move when Harper broke his election law. NDP views with Liberal fiscal management would go a long way to pulling this country in the right direction. It will take years to repair the damage of a Tory majority. Ontario knows this first hand.
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