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Protesters heckle from across the street outside a rally with Conservative Leader Stephen Harper in Harbour Grace, N.L. on Saturday, Sept 13, 2008. (Tom Hanson / THE CANADIAN PRESS)
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Conservative Leader Stephen Harper talks with reporters at a news conference in Fredericton, N.B., on Saturday, Sept. 13, 2008. (Tom Hanson / THE CANADIAN PRESS)
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Newfoundland and Labrador Premier Danny Williams speaks during a press conference in St. John's, N.L., Friday, Sept. 5, 2008. Williams says Canadians can't trust Stephen Harper.
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Premier Williams only has one vote, Harper says
Updated Sat. Sep. 13 2008 10:49 PM ET
CTV.ca News Staff
Stephen Harper went into hostile political territory Saturday urging Newfoundlanders not to listen to Premier Danny Williams' "Anybody but Conservative" campaign.
Despite the popular Williams' constant anti-Harper rhetoric, the federal Tory leader was only greeted by a small group of protesters as he arrived in Newfoundland for a campaign stop in Harbour Grace.
About a dozen protesters met Harper there and one was detained by police for attempting to attend the speech without an invitation.
Some of the protesters used Newfoundland's pre-Confederation flag to voice their displeasure with Harper.
Harper's campaign speech went off without any problems.
"You are -- as the slogan says -- proud, strong, determined," Harper said to a crowd of about 150 people.
"I can't tell you how to vote. No one can tell a Newfoundlander or a Labradorian how to vote. Your vote is not about personality fights. Your vote is about your own best interests."
Earlier in New Brunswick, Harper said that: "Premier Williams has a vote -- like every other person in this country."
"But there's half a million other Newfoundlanders and Labradorians who will have their vote as well. And I'm convinced we've got a pretty good case to make to them."
Harper has downplayed the rift between his government and Williams.
"You know, it's not terribly unusual for provincial governments to have different positions from the federal government, even (a government) of their own stripe," he said in Fredericton, N.B. earlier Saturday.
Williams has accused Harper of breaking his word about an equalization agreement with Newfoundland over offshore oil resources. Just this past week, Williams warned Canadians about a Tory majority government.
"A majority government for Stephen Harper would be one of the most negative political events in Canadian history," Williams said.
Harper said Williams did not get along with the previous Liberal government either and noted that he is running against federal parties, not Williams. Harper added that his policies will appeal to many Newfoundlanders.
During his stop in New Brunswick, Harper claimed Canada has become a more conservative country. He said many Canadians have come to accept arguments for balanced budgets and freer trade, but he said his party will govern for all Canadians.
"(We) want to pull Canadians towards conservatism, but Conservatives also have to move towards Canadians if they want to continue to govern the country," Harper said.
He also promised modest tax cuts to small-business owners amounting to $220 million worth of savings over four years.
Harper said he would index the lifetime capital-gains exemption -- and increase the amount of income eligible for the reduced small-business tax rate -- to $500,000.
With files from The Canadian Press
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Danny Williams is and always has been a cry baby. He has hated every government in power at the federal level. I think he did do a great job for NL but who would he suggest the people vote for? Liberals and the carbon tax that will hurt all oil producing provinces or the NDP who will shut that sector down? Williams should shut up for awhile and see how good he has it. I do hope the people of NL see that Harper is the only one PROTECTING their interests.
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Could someone explain what Danny Williams wants? Does he really feel that he deserves all the revenue and equilization payments. Surely Newfoundland has more pride than that. I don't think you can have it both ways. Either your are a have province or you are a have-not province.
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Danny williams is the person who should be running as leader. I had the opportunity of speaking with him once. Now this is a guy that can talk, and you understand what he has to say. This is rare in politicans. He is straight forward and shows confidence in what he believes. If some think him blunt. It's because he shoots from the hip and says what he thinks.
This isn't going to be a nice trip for Harper. I think it might be cut short, you know it's the defeatist attitude that we Atlantic Canadians have. Besides we don't have enough seats to matter.
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A harper majority may be negative for danny williams but it would be quite positive for Canada and Newfoundland.
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If the Premier of my province tried to tell me how to vote federally I would be livid. It's none of his business. I would love to see a debate between an intellectual and informed Prime Minister and a lunatic Premier who is arrogant enough to think he can influence how people vote. He is insulting the people of Newfoundland and Labrador by telling them that they are not smart enough to figure out who to vote for on their own, so they need his guidance. Williams should get back to the business of looking after his province and give people enough credit to vote without his input.
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I can't wait to see what childish antics Danny Williams will come up with. Everytime he has differences with the federal government and can't have his way, he gets his shorts in a knot and acts like a child having a tantrum - just like a spoiled little brat!
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Danny Williams is really showing us how difficult Canada is to govern. The regional agendas, priorities and demands span a range of no other nation that I can think of. From Quebec to the multi-ethnic Toronto -- the North, the Maritimes, the Aboriginal Nations -- everyone has a short list of hot button political demands. It requires a rare blend of flexibility and fortitude from anyone who tries.
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with, or without any mp's from newfoundland/labrador. mr. harper is poised to win a majority government. on october 14 a conservative wave will sweep across the country, leaving danny's abc campaign behind.
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It is unfortunate that Danny has this attitude. It goes to show that he could not be a federal leader because as a leader you have to try and get along with people. He didn't like the federal Liberals and now doesn't like the federal Conservatives. What does he want? If Harper happens to get in, Williams may have to work with him again, maybe he should rethink what he is doing.
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I lived in Nfld. for 20 years and I know that Nflders are fighters - good, but now it's time to get over it and get on with it Danny! Your constant bickering makes you sound like a juvenile ankle biter. You've got a province on the up swing and people to lead. Enough already!!!
Ps. I love Nfld., everybody should go there at least once.
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Danny Williams for Prime Minister! Let's bring back the REAL Conservatives, not these Reform frauds. Anything But Harper's Conservatives.
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Danny Williams, is an honest Premier. He knows what he is talking about. We don't need a Harper Majority, in fact we don't even need Harper. I hope people across Canada will listen. Vote for anyone but Harper.
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When is someone going to ask Williams about the effect of the other parties policies (the green shift and the ndp plan), on the NL economy? It seems to me that anyone with two clues realizes that the Conservatives are the only ones who don't want to shut down or seriously limit oil production, something that the people of NL are counting on. Wake up Danny, put the economic future of your province ahead of your own ego.
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Williams should be spending his time and energy working for his province. If NL suffers under this federal regime, he has only himself to blame.
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Danny William thinks he has the rights to keep all the Revenues also the equalization payments. I believe even if he would get both he would still find something to complain about. He took the Canadian Flag down because he didn't got his way with a previous government. His behaviour on National TV was very embarressing. He got a lot of Canadians angry.
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Harper describes Conservatism in self-flattering favorable terms by claiming it's about balanced budgets and lower taxes, but it's the social agenda that bothers me.
Their attack on gay marriage came to nothing, but social conservatives have been proven now to be wrong about the issue. I also don't like their stance towards the Vancouver Injection Site- shows a total lack of respect for science and logic.
I don't know much about Danny Williams, but he may be on to something when he says a Conservative majority would be very negative. I like Harper as a minority leader- it keeps a reign on him. The Liberals don't deserve to hold power yet, and the NDP don't have the depth across the country. We need someone to stand up and prevent a Harper majority, or we could see a social regression in many important areas.
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Early on in the campaign (maybe even pre-campaign) Harper spoke of trying to lessen the divisiveness in this great country.
He spoke of the branch held out to Quebec and how the country as a whole must move forward.
Williams is an example of the politics of division that is the true seed of the nasty campaigns we have seen in Canada lately.
Just because he can't get everything he wants he fires back with grandiose accusations a la the Parti Quebecois and others.
Williams has a choice, keep the Atlantic accord or the oil wealth he wasn't offered both.
His rant is wearing thin. Newfoundlanders like the rest of Canada are surely looking at the federal government and hoping for a lessening of tensions regionally.
Williams is not conducive to lessening those tensions with ANYONE. First he was mad as hell at Paul Martin and tore down the flag. As a conservative I thought he was merely speaking outlandishly about Liberals.
I was wrong, Williams now has Harper in sight, who is next Jack Layton, Stephane Dion? Liz May?
He needs to button up and let Newfoundlanders and Canadians look at Harper vs Dion vs Layton and choose what is best for them as a country first and a province second.
When Danny's next election comes around they will need to decide what is best for the province of Newfoundland and let the national front take a back seat.
Williams should channel this energy toward running the province he was elected to lead. I doubt many of them appreciate his behaviour.
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Harper is the only leader among the parties that can lead in the interest of the WHOLE nation.
With all the special interests the other parties are touting I think the Conservatives are the only ones that can pull this country together in spite of the whining from fringe groups.
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Mr. Williams is really starting to look unhinged. If he acts this crazy in public, imagine what a tyrant he must be behind closed doors !
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We Maritimers, like Newfoundlanders (our Atlantic Canadian cousins) take stands ON PRINCIPLE. True to my Maritime roots, I stand RESOLUTELY OPPOSED to Mr. Harper's SKETCHY ways of "doing" things.
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This is an indication of how the divestity and size of Canada can be a negative for government. And it goes to the heart of a debate that has been going on for decades.
The late,Rt.Hon.P.Trudeau favoured a strong central government, with most of the power and wealth controlled from Ottawa. Sadly,that meant every other region or province has to "kiss up" to Ontario on every issue. Not very likely in the 21st century.
The other vision of Canada saw more responsibilities and powers in the hands of provincial premiers. The idea being that the affairs of a province could be best managed locally. That model came with a different set of "unintended consequences" and led to a whole bunch of premiers building their own little empires,and that the citizens of Canada would have different laws, rights and entitlements depending on where they lived in Canada.
I'm pretty sure anyone who can find a pragmatic solution to this dilemma is in for the "Order of Canada".
For me, for now, being from the west, I would consider a democratic Senate that truly represents the regions with loyalty to NO PARTY, a good start.
Unfortunately, it is clear that Liberals are never going to go there. Thus,their return to power will, once again, mean the west returns to the status of "Colony to Ontario".
But I am with Jim in Edmonton.I would LOVE to travel to Nfld. and the rest of Atlantic Canada.
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To proud conservative,
Danny Williams is looking for honesty and integrity in a PM - neither of those valuable traits have been demonstrated by Harper - just the opposite.
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I read all the comments posted here and feel that most of you aren¡¯t seeing the real picture. Danny is a fighter with guts where the premier of NS is not. It¡¯s not over revenues and equalization payments. It's all about a promise that Harper and his controlling government made, and then broke. This shows that Harper can't be trusted. I'm a firm believer in that if you're a honest person, a promise is a promise.
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It's natural and a given that politicians verbally spar with each other even in the same party. It's a great newsmaker as well. But, when I compare PM Harper to Premier Williams, I can tell who the real bully is. Premier Williams wears his bullying on his shoulder. He has been a great premier for his province and is very protective, but Newfoundland is part of Canada, and acting like a spoiled child dimishes his image.
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Like Danny Williams or not, you have to respect him more that Brad Wall here in Saskatchewan. Harper lied to us just as badly, but our Premier is fine with that.
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Everyone's forgetting that Williams has a point in his vehement opposition to Harper.
Harper made pre-election equalization promises to NL that he completely ignored and reversed once elected.
These unfullfilled promises will cost the people of NL billions of dollars over time and were clearly intended to dupe NL voters into supporting the Consertvatives when they had no intention of actually coming through.
Such crass abuse of the voting public deserves to be punished and Williams wants his people to do just that by reversing the votes they gave Harper in 2006.
This isn't "whining" by Williams. It's a simple case of what goes around, comes around.
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Danny Williams, who has many years of direct political experience and who has interacted one-on-one in closed-door sessions with the Prime Minister, tells us Mr. Harper is not the person he projects himself to be to the public at large.
Many commentators on this site and others, who have had little or no direct contact with Mr. Harper and only know him as a grinning sweater-clad figure seated before a fireplace, tell us that Mr. Harper is exactly the person whom he, along with his spin doctors and advertising image makers, tell us he is.
Seems to me that the voice of personal experience is infinitely more credible than are self-promoting and self-advertisements.
Of course Mr. Williams' comments are based in a political agenda but so too are Mr. Harper's. That makes political agendas a wash and in no way negates Mr. Williams' current actions.
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I'm glad to see Harper is heading for a majority, it's Danny Williams I would like to see voted out! Every time his name comes up in the news it's always something negative that he has to say or he's whining and complaining about something. As mentioned above; what exactly is it that he wants? There are no other premiers that go on like him. He needs to do what the Nova Scotia premier did a couple years back, settle whatever issue(s) you have with the Prime Minister and move on.
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Two great men, both very good at their jobs, but act like children who can't get along. Maybe we should call their parents, or put both of them in the corner for a time out.
Grow up Danny, and Stevie!!! Remember you work for us, not yourselves!!
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Danny Williams made a promise to fight Harper in this election if Harper didn't honour the written promise he made to Williams.
Harper didn't keep his promise.
Williams is.
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Folks,
Premier Williams has done an amazing job for NL and continues to fight for what is right. Whether you like it or not, Mr. Harper made a lot of promises to NL during the last election campaign and fulfilled very few. Finally, we have someone willing to hold a federal politician accountable and people are disgruntled, Go Figure. I guess you can't please everyone.
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I have a hard time understanding what Danny Williams wants.. NL for the first time since they joined the rest of Canada have money sticking out of their stockings due to oil that really belongs to All Canadians.. But now he still wants the equalization payments that NL has been receiving since joining Canada.. Give it up Danny and enjoy your new found wealth and quit asking the rest of us to make you richer. Here in Ontario we have a Liberal government and we're going down the tubes. So much so that we will be looking for equalization from NL. So be careful what party you support, you might just get it.
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Just what is so CHILDISH??D.Williams is going to be sure that the NEWFIES do not get back doored again.Go Danny!!Remember what Quebec has done with the Juice!!it's almost over for them,no re negotiating there EH!!GW Harper should be worried I do not think he will win a seat there KUDOS to NL.Now he's gonna kiss all the ass he can ,too late GW go back to alberta Reformtard,not conservative .If he gets a majority look out Canada,he will sell us down the river.No crisma,no couth.my 2 cents
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Danny Williams has an approval rating that the Cons can only dream about .
The high eighties .
Work with that cons .
NL and LB will be solid red after the election .
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Danny is right on, on Tories in NFLD for sure this election, and we need to stop a majority Tory government, are we so dump to elect another Bush... 4 year of nothing... but war nothing on the enviroment, poverty, they have ruined our economy, yet he is nice and wears a sweater so he must be good for Canada, wake up.... go Danny go!!
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Oh shut up Danny........and...get you hand off my wallet!
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Danny Williams is like a spoiled child that dosen't get his own way.
So now he wants to bully everyone to vote for what he says.
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I will never become a conservative. That means going back to the old days and old ideologies with a ruined economy. Conservative's agenda can't sustain a 212st century economy and society.
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Harper says conservatism is about balanced budgets and freer trade. His recent government has brought Canada closer to an unbalanced budget than any other gov't has in the previous 10 yrs. And you can't separate economic and social policy because it costs money to fund social policies. If you continually reduce taxes you reduce funds for health care, child care, pensions & benefits, the whole social safety net. Personally I'd rather spend money on healthcare than on the military and why not ask Harper how much he's spending on the military. It'll scare you.
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I think Mr William's right, it will be a very big mistake to give harper Majority, cause he's tyrant and I belive he's fake too.
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I just want to say how angry I'm at Danny William. I never thought this beautiful country would have such of man as a Primier of NF, Province of Canada. I experienced & came across nesty people but never Primier that should show example to his people to respect Prime Minister of Canada & his Country. That is not all, Danny William doesn't even respect the Canadian Flag. How the Hell he became a Primier?
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I don't know that I support Danny Williams' reasons, but his advice to vote for anyone but Harper is quite sound. I'm amused that some think Harper is a suitable leader. Maybe because he is the only one to have NOTHING to offer, aside from thinly disguised religious ideology and attack adds (which he promised not to use) on anyone who opposes him?
Stephane Dion may not be charismatic, but he is intelligent, level headed, and socially progressive. We need to move away from our American-style emfatuation with charismatic leaders and select an intelligent leader with policies that will sort out some of the problems, even if they are not the sweetest sounding.
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"(We) want to pull Canadians towards conservatism..." Harper said.
This is the scariest thing about Conservatives, and proof they do have an agenda.
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| Danny Williams a true legend - in his own mind. |
Premier Williams doesn't impress with his bully tactics and school boy routine.
It's unfortunate that Williams behaviour refelcts poorly on Newfoundland. He does little for the cause of Newfoundland by acting like he does - a spoiled brat.
Williams is out of his league and the only person who doesn't understand that is Danny Williams.
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Danny is out of control. Threatenening the candidates in the ridings is going to far. To try and make people vote by intimidation like that calls for charges against him. By cutting off provincial funding from ridings that vote Conservative. Outrageous!!
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Danny Williams has a right to his views just like anyone else. But it seems there is a longstanding tradition in this country that provincial leaders do not interfere in federal elections and vice versa. Williams simply comes accross as an arrogant fool. But I still think Newfoundlanders are the nicest people in the world in spite of Danny boy!
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Mr. Harper is saying that Canada is more conservative now than in the past. This is complete baloney told to us by Harper through his by his spin doctors and speech writers. It is more manipulative electioneering on Harper's part and nothing more than that! We are not like the Republican/ Bush governed United States. Canadians wanting more of what the Conservatives have dished out??? That's a laugh ! For example Harper and the Conservatives have just said that there's nothing that can be done about the ridiculously high gas prices and gouging at the pumps. Again Harper takes no responsibility for governing Canada. Harper does not even say he will try to start a conversation with the major players (the BIG OIL companies that he usually likes to talk to so much).We have already too high prices for gas and now the prices rise 13 cents a litre in one day ???
You have to wonder what role Hr. Harper thinks he has as a Prime Minister? This is not governing Canada.Harper and his party DO NOT deserve more seats in this election- they deserve quite a few LESS SEATS. The Conservatives need to step aside if they are not willing to lead. Canadians need to have another Party who will step up and actually act like a government and take over the reins and lead Canada into the next four years. The last thing Canadians need now is a bunch of members of parliament like the Conservatives who make excuses and basically say to Canadians, "Don't expect anything of us."
It is time for a REAL CHANGE !
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Keep up the majority talk! That should turn things around at this end of the country...no one here (East) wants to see Harpo the Emperor get in so keep talking majority!
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Can someone please explain to me exactly what Stephen Harper promised to the people of Newfoundland and Dany Williams, and how, exactly, he (Harper) is now reneging on the promise?
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Not every promise deserves to be implemented. The tax status of the INCOME TRUSTS for example. Why should a promise stand if major conditions change -- nearly every major corporation in Canada was moving toward this distorted governance model driven by shareholder greed for tax saving. Likewise with Newfoundland and Labrador -- perhaps Premier Williams will come to Ontario where people are already paying at the gas pump part of the royalties that supply the wealth of Hibernia. He can tell people why they need to send him even more of their federal tax dollars rather than help the Ontario economy weather increasing energy costs.
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I personally would rather get more information on why our PM needs to delay his own law suit becuase HE called an election. He shouldn't be allowed to subvert the judicial system because he's busy. He knew of this court date many, many months ago and suddenly his lawyers need to make an emergency motion to have it delayed. Personally I would prefer what comes out of this court before we go to the polls but you can be very sure our PM dosen't want any of it out there now. This Cadman affair needs to proceed in a timely fashion so Canadians can make up their own minds before we vote. Now you know why Harper called this election folks. Demand to get the info out there, we have a right to know.
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I'm sick and tired of that whiny little Williams. Alberta and Ontario have been footing the bill for the rest of Canada for decades under the equalizatin program. It's about time Newfoundland stood on their own two feet and quit whining about more money now that their econmy is up and running.
A Harper majority would be the best thing for Canada, and would provide the stability we need after this minority mess created by the Liberals and NDP.
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As a Newfoundlander Im ashamed of Williams' childish crusade against the Harper Government!
His suggesting that Newfoundlanders "vote anything but Conservative in this ellection" was the straw that broke the camels back!
First of all, I'll decide who I vote for MYSELF..not Danny.
SECOND,if everyone in Newfoundland follows his stupid advice and we get another Conservative Government in power,which polls are already suggesting, then WHO WILL BE IN POWER to speak for issues concerning Newfoundland??
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I live in Cambridge Ont and i say go Danny go anyone but stephen harper I love Mrs May
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Danny is slowly becoming the Hugo Chavez of Canadian politics (at least on the federal level).
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I was under the impression that Mr. Harper didn't need the Newfoundlanders' and Labradorians' support. Why should they give it to him? Mr. Williams appears to be one man who is willing to put his career on the line for the people....not the party. That's a real politician!!!
Vote ABC!!!
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Danny Williams needs to be put into his proper place which should be out of the political lime light. PM Harper has treated NL fairly and I hope the people there vote Conservative.
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The Harper Cons will likely win zero seats in NL this go around. Good luck making up the resultant seat deficit in Alberta.
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Danny Williams is doing his best to intimidate voters in NL. Perhaps his behavour should be investigated by police. He is a loud mouth blow hard who ego is more important the his Province or Country. I hope Newfoundlanders ignore him and vote their own minds. I think they know better than Mr Williams what is best for them
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Robert Fife is standing up for Democracy in Canada by reporting to Canadians the climate of fear for Newfoundlanders who support the Federal Conservatives. Thankyou CTV for allowing your reporters to keep the premier of NFLD accountable. CTV keeping Canada strong and free.
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Why does Dan the man always complain about something. Presantly Newfoundland is a have not province so just take everyone elses money and be happy, the oil is coming and so will your status to a have province then you will have to help out the others. I just wonder how Dan will take that?
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The people of the rest of Canada have stood by for decades making sure "the Rock" was taken care of in good times and bad......Now we have to listen to Wiiliams who is not afraid to bite the hand that feed him.....How typical! In Ontario, we have to deal with McGuinty; in Newfieland, you guys have Williams. This situation is NOT even worth a 'trade'! I think that Harper deserves full, fair, and honest dialoque at least. Does he really consider himself a model of "good governance"?
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Wait a minute , is this the same guy that ordered all Canadian Flags lowered from Provincial buildings in Dec 2004 when he had a dispute with Paul Martin....? well enough said!!!cry baby if he does not get his way!! buahhh
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Dd,
If Danny Williams wants to stick with the ATLANTIC ACCORD HE CAN.
He is under no obligation to go under the new program and has the option of staying with the old program till the accord ends in 2012 or signing onto to the the new enriched program that takes 50% oil revenues into consideration.
Once again, Danny Williams has the choice under which formula he wants to go under.
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Hey Newfoundland & Labrador! Do what Danny Boy tells you. We're counting on you to follow like the true lemmings you are. Meanwhile we'll vote Conservative here in the Maritimes, be a part of the majority, and enjoy the success that comes with it. So shipbuilding contracts will go to Saint John, not Marystown, and more fishery quotas will got to PEI and NS. Keep it up, Dan-O!
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Harper isn't a man of his word and that is a good enough reason not to vote for a conservative.
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Danny Williams is practising the politics of bitterness and it doesn,t look good on him!Newfoundland deserves better from it,s Premier and they should demand that he stop his personal rants against the PM.Clearly,the Lib.&NDP policies will hurt his province.
Go Steven Go!!
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An open letter to all Atlantic province voters:
Danny Williams is playing pure politics. Harper did not reneg on anything he said or signed or promised. Its also important to note that Williams was at odds with the prior Liberal govt under Paul Martin. He wants the best for Newfoundland but at the expense of other provinces. On one hand Harper has McGuinty in Ontario crying about how Ontario gives too much to equalization and Williams on the other hand crying about Newfoundland not getting enough. He's between a rock and a hard place because he can't please either one.
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Let's see. Ontario and the rest of Canada poured in millions (billions actally) of dollars to Newfoundland when they were a have-not province but now that Ontario has hit some hard times and Newfoundland is doing well they want to keep all their money and not share any. Hmmmm. Do Liberals ever actually listen to what they say? Typical Liberal attitude. Somebody else buys them their cake and they eat it all - not even offering a piece to anybody.
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Dear Newfoundlanders,
Please park your votes with the Liberals, Greens or NDP since they have your best interests at heart and I'm sure will well support your Premiers goals. I mean cap and trade or the Green Shift will certainly work well in ensuring that Newfoundlanders will have energy independence and wealth....NOT.
Grow up and think before whinning about past promises and think long and hard about the alternative. Your ABC slogan is cute but foolish.
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Harper did not keep his promise to Newfoundland (SURPRISE)and Danny Williams is taking him to task over it. Thats what a good Premier does.If you are not going to keep your promise dont make it.Harper has done that to many times and should pay for all his lies,all of them.
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"Williams didn't like the last government, he doesn't like the current government, he won't like the next govenment" Williams only likes Williams. He is an infantile bully - you know, the kind we all remember from grade school?
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Danny Williams only want's what we were PROMISED, if the conservative's didn't think we should have 100% of non-renewable resources out of equalization they shouldn't have PROMISED it. The same with the former government which to their credit eventually came through with their PROMISE. If you don't plan on keeping a PROMISE don't make it. by the way you guys who voted for the conservatives in the last election voted for 100% of non renewable resources out of equalization, after all it was part of their platform
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Tell em Danny -
All the cry babies out west abd here and BC don't have the Guts to stand up to him-
Like what is HArper- Allience- Reform. Progressive Conseratve or Conserative- OR will they change there name once they lose-
DANNY BOY - it stake a MAritimer to stand up to that Crook- BEWARE if he wins-
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Danny williams should spend more time focusing on doing a good job as premier, and less time trying to get his sour mug on the national stage with his belly-aching every time he has a chance at taking a shot at the feds. The conservatives may not be the be all and end all of governments, but when you look at the alternatives they do look pretty good!
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@ Peter Sutherland
Harper promised not to change the Atlantic accord in regards to transfer payments and oil revenue's.
Once the Tories took power and looked at exactly what the Liberals were doing, they had not choice but change things a bit to balance the transfer payments so that the west and Ontario were not paying way more then they should.
However, Harper didn't lie or change things. He offered them a new structure or to keep the old one. NS decided to go with the new one which was better for them in the long run. Newfoundland didn't, and now they are feeling the pinch and Danny is mad as hell at his own stupidity.
They should have taken the new deal. Harper was not about to keep giving them huge transfer payments while they are raking in more oil revenue's then ever before.
Danny is a spoiled little baby who is hurting the people of NFLD, and NFLD'ers are too blind to see it because Danny screams so loud.
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Three cheers for Danny Williams for telling it like it is.
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Danny Williams For P.M. - From what I can see Mr. Williams has a much more fair and equitable distribution on the " oil issue ". Rather than the rush to madness in the tar sands that Harper and Alberta insist on, Mr. Williams has the correct balance on sharing the oil revenue. If Mr. Obama and our U.S. neighbours can wean themselves off oil in the not too distant future then oil will becore less of an issue. Big Oil and the speculators finally pushed it to the limit with its close to $150 a barrel price tag and America has said * ouch *. Ten years may be, if you pardon the pun Mr. Obama, a " pipe dream " ...for America to wean itself of Middle-East ( and potentially Canadian ) oil, but certainly 20 years is possible. Never discount Good Old American Know How ... Change Is Coming ... and solar powered, electric or hydrogen powered vehicles will become the norm. Once again ... Danny Williams for P.M. - What this country needs is a Small C or Red Tory government out of the mold of former Ontario Premier Bill Davis. Harper and his Far Right policies just doesn't cut it in the fair Dominion of Canada Go Danny Go !!!
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The comments posted here are hilarious... I'm a construction worker and work at the Saint John refinery... the scare tactics used by Harper are ridiculous, and you people are buying it, I can hardly believe maritimers are buying into this load of crap being stuffed down their throats by harper. The only thing harper has done that I support is his re investment in our military.
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Danny Williams may reduce the voice Newfoundland and Labrador has in the next government and alienate many of his constituents from it. It is unfortunate someone I believe genuinely cares about his province will have this result.
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Danny Williams has a point about the federal government no matter which party is in place. But, Danny boy needs his butt kicked when it comes to election time. Danny has some dirt of his own to hide.
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Notice to all the liberal dingbats posting on this site:
Harper did not break a promise to Nfld. They had the CHOICE to stay in the old equilization formula, or move to the new one.
Anyone who thinks Harper broke a promise is ignorant to the facts.
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I think every province should take into account if it were their province & their pm waiting for a deal to come through by Harper & have him back down from it,I wonder what would they feel like, plus to put the icing on the cake have Harpers ppl advertise Stephane Dion with the Nfs puffin bird flying over him & crapping on him it wasn't only a insult to Stephane Dion,but it was a insult to the ppl of Nf by harper to use such distaste. danny Williams is standing up for the ppl of Nfld & Lab if anyone who is a lunatic it is Harper by all means after all he is suppose to be the Prime Minister of canada (All Provinces) & he is insulting the smallest one by using a puffin bird to go after Dion & backing down from a deal he agreed on, Way to go Danny!!!There never will be anyone as good as ,Rt.Hon.P.Trudeau again. Dion as my vote any old day!
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Wow , listening to Bob Fife and Jim Morgan sends a chill down my spine . Is this happening in Canada ?Threatening a mans business if he doesn't do what Williams wants ? Sounds like power went to somebodies head big-time . Sounds like something Robert Mugabwe would do . So much for democracy.
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The hard right Conservative movement in Canada is proving to be so divisive and unproductive. A little research though will show you that is how the Neo-Con movement operates. It's all part of the plan to control the easy-to-manipulate to get into office. It's sad to see so many people blindly supporting something and not even understand how they were tricked into doing it. Oh well, the world keeps turning.
We need the Progressive Conservatives back again. I don't recall it ever getting this nasty under them. A moderate conservative party in this country would likely be polling in the mid 40s.
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Danny Williams, bebe la la!! Hypocrite!! Take the Liberals Danny Boy with their carbon tax and watch your refineries go SOUTH!!! You should be endorsing your Conservative buddy and if Mr. Harper did achieve a majority then maybe, just maybe, we would have a government able to get things done without the whiners from the left and Mr. Williams in the road to block anything positive that just might help us progress in this world!! Wake up Canada... we need a majority government. Look to our neighbours south of us and see what happens when you continuosly have no clear cut winner......... nobody wins when a government just barely squeaks by!!!
WE NEED A MAJORITY GOVERNMENT!!!!!
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During the last election I voted Conservative for the first time. Why? Because I didn't like the many scandals that the Liberals were involved in so I went with the Conservatives. This time I won't be voting Conservative. Why? Because Mr. Harper blatantly lied to the people of Newfoundland about his intentions with regards to the natural resources. Newfoundlanders are smart enough to realize what Mr. Harper is and I don’t think Danny Williams ABC campaign is needed in Newfoundland – we aren’t voting Conservative. Newfoundlanders really care about Canada so Danny Williams ABC campaign is necessary for the rest of Canada – please learn from our experience with Mr. Harper. He screwed little ‘ole Newfoundland with a minority Government and look out for the rest of Canada if he gets a majority government!
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I think Danny "chavez" Williams has a hate problem. He seems to be obsessed with hating Harper. It is one thing to disagree, but he has a personality problem.
Increase taxes and go back to the hippy days of socialist Trudeau, or go forward with a modern country under P.M. Harper and pay less taxes. It is a no-brainer--GO HARPER!!
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Time for Danny to grow up, being part of this wonderful Confederation is contributing when times are good for the benefit of the whole country, just like being a recipient when times are tough (think about the past Dan). Be proud Newfoundland and Labrador is in a position to contribute to the rest of this wonderful country called Canada!!!
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Harper is a discusting person. He thinks he can rule everybody. It's his way or no way. Premier of Newfoundland stood up for Newfoundland on the Oil issue and I believe won. Our Nova Scotia Premier took the threats from Harper and we ended up losing in the Oil issue. He is an insult to Canada in my oppinion.
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Danny Williams is a dictator and frankly, not worth being a leader of a province. Anyone that breast beats himself as the saviour of NFLD/Lab is so full of himself, needs a trip out. Even Ralph Klien in his hayday would voice his displeasure with federal politicians including conservatives, but he would never demand his civil servants NOT TO WORK or volunteer for ANY federal party. Everybody has a voice. Too bad Danny's is blasting like a loud speaker. Turns everyone else off and I hope, eventually, his own party and province. To be a proud Canadian means if your province is on its own two feet, it needs to help others. That seems to be not part of Danny's me me me attitude.
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OK simply put in my opinion Danny Williams is great simply because he honestly and consistently speaks his mind, this is virtually unheard of in politics. As close as Stephen Harper can get to this is making sure everyone in his party knows what their mind should be and silencing any dissent that may appear.
I agree with Mr. Williams, Anything But Conservative! His methods are somewhat questionable but the sentiment makes ALOT of sense!
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Danny Williams has always been a complainer. Good on Mr. Harper for telling him off in a nice way.
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You get some "big oil" bucks and all of sudden you are spokes person against Harper. Shame on you Denny for your patronage to big oil.
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| Layton (not Jack) in Moncton |
Harper is a farce and has lied about so many of his 'promises' that I agree with Williams. NL was screwed when Harper broke the Atlantic Accord. The only thing he has done that is half way decent is spend some on the military, otherwise he has turned the best economy in the G* to the worst in three years. Run on THAT record.
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I will vote for any government that will do something about gas prices, not look into making sure we are not getting gouged.
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Danny Williams was given a writen promise from Harper. Harper did not honour this written promise. Why wouldn't Williams be upset? Harper is getting a pretty easy ride from the press, and his supporters seem to be wearing rose coloured glasses. I wish they would hold Harper to the same standards they hold the other leaders to.
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Conservatives will win no seats in Nfld. This is because in the last provincial election in Nfld, Danny Williams and his party won an overwhelming majority so that means people are going to trust Williams and not vote Conservative.
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I dont believe anything that comes out of stephen harpers mouth.Danny williams seems to be the only one that stands up to harper and sticks to his guns.So keep at it danny > Stephen Harper may not need newfoundland,and newfoundland may not need harper if Danny williams keeps our province on the right track.
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| What's so bad about that? |
Steven said:
"(We) want to pull Canadians towards conservatism..." Harper said.
This is the scariest thing about Conservatives, and proof they do have an agenda."
And Stephan Dion wants to pull Canadians toward Liberalism (and bankrupt the country in the process); Jack Layton wants to pull Canadians toward Socialism (and give all your hard-earned money to those without jobs, or to sites where illegal drugs can be used "legally"; and Liz May . . . . . Oh well you get my idea. They all ave an agenda.
Personally, I'll chose Harper's vision for Canada.
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Another day of Harper trying to buy the vote of Canadians.
While ignoring the most important issues in this election the Conservatives and Mr. Harper are seen pandering to the lowest common denominator and to simple greed.
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I can't believe comments I read. There is people that think Danny William was right to say what he said about Mr. Harper. Well, I have to say that: Mr. Harper is the best Prime Minister that I remember. He delivered all he had promise in the lost Campaing with a small minority. He did a lot more in 2 & half years then Liberals did in 13. Mr. Harper is the most dignified & fear to all Canadians, Prime Minister, Canada ever had. Primier William is the only Primier in Canada's History that never got along with the Federal Government. He is the only Premier that falsely acused our Prime Minister of fraud, which he should be sude for that. Danny William is the only Premier that even threatened the people of NF & L. if they would support or vote for Mr. Harper, they would lose contracts with the Province Government. He's the only Primier that even got involve in Federal Elections. Well, he gone to far, to the extream. Therefore, he deserves to be punish and doesn't deserve to be Premier of NF&L in the next Election.
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If you really want corrupt Politicians running the Country,then you'll vote Liberal.
The Globe today is updating us on the sponsorship scandal.
Good read.Click on the
national" section,to find it.
People need reminding of just how corrupt the Libs are.
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Typical, Harper taking the high road while Williams shows us the vile, egotistical blabber mouth he is.
The people of NL should be careful not to fall into Williams vindictive trap.
No one should tell anyone how to vote. I'm counting on the people of NL to use their heads. Dion's Green Shaft will devastate their fledgling oil industry. Unless, Williams has cut a deal with Dion....this is the real story.
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Let's create a "culture of defeat" within Harper's so-called Conservative party.
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I am not a big fan of Mr. Harper however; I see that he is the best of a bad selection as a leader for Canada. He may even mature into the job with a majority government. Mr. Williams likely has only a base understanding of the complexities of Equalization/Atlantic Accord/money reality and this is continually on display with his ongoing quasi lunatic, ranting(s) and especially recently, on how the people of Newfoundland should vote in a Federal election. The guy is an embarrassment to any legitimate political process and his minders should converse with him on how foolish he is showing himself to be. In reading NL internet media I have seen no articles supporting Mr. Williams recent screaming this suggest that NL's citizens are a lot more sane than their Premier.
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| Rod from Lake Tahoe Nevada |
All I have to say to the good people of Canada is this. If you vote for a majority, ie; Harper..., you will only have yourselves to blame down the road.
Williams is a fighter and doesn't BS when it comes to the country. I would rather have a bulldog than a lier running my country.
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When N & L gave Danny Williams one of the largest majorities in history, it was because he has integrity and honesty as 2 of the largest bones in his back. There are not many other politicians that you can say that about. We wanted a guy to stand up for the province, not side with his buddies, or others, and we wanted someone to speak the truth and call a spade "a spade." And we could not have asked for a better person. This guy is doing exactly what we expect our leaders to do, and I know that many Canadians secretly wish this man was standing up for their province. For those of you, who use words like,"childish, whining, and spoiled to describe my premier, try reaching down to see if you've still got a "SET".
Premier, according to all these comments, you've got some pretty worried Harper supporters out there, but trust me, you have many more supporters in your province and across the country than you'll ever know. Remain true to your convictions and be strong, we've got your back, give them hell. Thanks for giving us a political leader to be proud of. We'll remain fairly quiet but look out on election day, because the whole country is listening and waiting. Happy Oct 14th.
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there are a few things people need to know here
1/ the "old deal" that nfld could keep would include a new "cap" on the amount of transfer payments so it would still seriously lower the payments
2/ williams to my understanding donates his salary for his position as premier he does not need the money he loves nfld that much
3/ williams behaviour is questionable but not much different then harper who tells his own caucus what to think and say and boots out those who dont agree (bill casey)
4/ dany williams like others say has aprox 80% approval rating no one else has that
some people may not like what he is saying but what really concerns them is that the people of nfl might actually listen
choose ndp the cap and trade system will be alot less financially harmful then the green shaft
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people are saying thet we will have a reduced voice in government if NL doesn't vote any conservatives in, i'm sorry but it well be exactly the same as now, NONE. NO LESS, NO MORE, NONE. We have nothing to lose.
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If you look at the list of campaign promises. May have the most informative and diverse platform. But as i have said these are election promises.
Forgot to mention CTV has the list on this site.
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I cringe every time Danny Williams opens his mouth. As the Premier of Newfoundland, he represents all us Newfs. But his tirades are so off-the-wall and so ill-considered that he makes us all look bad and gives the rest of the country cause to dismiss us out of hand. Wouldn't it be better for, of all people, the Premier to help Newfoundland to have cabinet representation in the upcoming majority Conservative government? Wouldn't this better serve all the people of Newfoundland? How are these bad-mouth comments going to work in Newfoundland's favour? Don't you catch more flies with honey that vinegar?
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| Proud NON-Conversative Supporter |
I LOVE DANNY WILLIAMS! Finally SOMEONE with enough balls to call it like it is! And HE is Conservative! My vote - Danny Williams for PM!!
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Enough Danny why don't you try and run for the big dogs (federal) instead of a province....think you got what it takes? Probably not.
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I can see only a few have watched the video. Robert Fife has talked to Newfoundlander's who are being intimidated by people connected to Williams who are threatening job/business loss. Don't believe me, click on the video on the right and listen for yourself!
Williams has gone too far.
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Apart from Tory party folks' comments, I'd suggest that Williams would make a good PM hisself.
He's tougher and smater than the current PM, whatshisname.
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I'm just trying to gathering information from all the comments I read & find some logical. Well, I agree Liberals would take the country to bankruptcy if they would be elected. Jack Layton & NDP would pull Canadians to socialism, and give all your hardearned money to those without jobs or to sites where ellegal drugs can be used legally. May thinks she is the only smart woman in Canada the rest of us are stupid. I think William is the most ignorant Premier in Canada's History.
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Mr. Harper says that Canada is more conservative now.
His majority would be:
- gone with gay unions
- right of a woman to choose
to just start things off.
Vote for anything but Conservative (REFORM). The real conservative party is no more.
Wake up Canada
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Layton if elected PM has offered Danny everything he wants including the Fed's 8.5% share of the off shore oil
Danny says the Feds owe him $10 Billion.The NDP says they calculated it at $400 million.
Looks like Layton has now learned his lesson. Nothing pleases Danny and it doesn't matter who is in Ottawa,Danny can't get along with anyone.
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| Trevor Klein Francis Sask. |
Why isn't the media calling Danny Williams character into question??? Look at what the guy is saying, telling people who not to vote for, asking people if they are on his "side", I honestly think he's using his position of authority to undermine democracy. Not only that I think he's indirectly calling people stupid we all know the facts we'll make our own decision sir.
If he was such a great statesmen he would have resigned as premier ran for the liberal party and taken the man head on.
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Let me say I love the rock, but it sounds to me that Elizabeth May is wearing pants now, crying and whining if things dont go their way. Might be a good place for May, could use the hot air from Williams to power her green projects
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