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Bill Doskoch, CTV.ca News
Date: Wed. Aug. 20 2008 9:14 PM ET
The two main federal leaders are both huffing and puffing about a federal election sometime this fall, despite the fact that Parliament voted to fix the election date.
However, no matter. This is Canada, and the ways and means to trigger elections here are almost infinite.
"They have to do it a little more craftily than in the past, but it wouldn't be too hard for them (the Conservatives) to set a trap for the Liberals," Carleton University political scientist Jonathan Malloy told CTV.ca on Wednesday.
"(Prime Minister Stephen) Harper can engineer the defeat of his government in 30 seconds," Michael Behiels, a University of Ottawa history professor, told CTV.ca.
Parliament is set to reconvene on Sept. 15. Harper has said he will have to decide in the coming weeks whether this minority Parliament can continue to work -- even though in various speeches, he has praised his government's legislative achievements.
The Conservatives have made it clear they intend to table bills and deem them confidence votes to force the hand of Liberal Leader Stephane Dion.
However, on Tuesday, Harper also suggested his government's fixed-election law wasn't valid any more because of all the election talk flowing from the opposition.
"Obviously, the election will not be in October, 2009, and it's obvious I will have to analyze the parliamentary situation," he said in both French and English.
"We did establish a fixed date for the next election. That said, in this minority Parliament, two of the parties, the Bloc [Québécois] and the NDP, have indicated for some months now that they want an election immediately. Mr. Dion has indicated that the government has to be defeated, but he's not sure when he'll do that because he hasn't got good enough polls. I don't think that's a particularly responsible position."
He left open the option of simply asking the Governor General to dissolve Parliament and drop the writ.
Dion said Tuesday his party may move to bring down the Harper government this fall. Dion accused Harper of being willing to break the Tories' own election law for political convenience -- even though he admits that he's trying to maximize the timing advantage for his party.
He used a fishing analogy, saying that he caught a tournament-winning pike by showing "a lot of patience, and because I struck at the right time." Harper has been saying Dion has to either fish or cut bait on the election issue.
Rosemary Thompson, CTV's deputy Ottawa bureau chief, told CTV.ca that very senior Tory sources have told CTV News the government would like to see a federal election held on Oct. 27 -- 2008.
Behiels said the fixed-election-date law was a bit of "a bit of Reform (Party) hocus pocus. So now (Harper is) caught in that, but not really caught."
Queens University's Ned Franks agrees, telling CTV.ca the bill creates more of a political problem for Harper than a legal or constitutional one in calling an early election. He agreed one could think of the law as 'a fixed election date if necessary, but not necessarily a fixed election date' -- to paraphrase former prime minister William Lyon Mackenzie King. "It's what in the trade they call a 'pious hope' -- in other words, a promise that can be broken with impunity if you think you can get away with it," he said of the act.
Harper is getting impatient with the fact that Dion holds the Sword of Damocles over his government, Behiels said. "He wants to get the opposition, especially the Liberals, to put up or shut up.
"And so this is a lot of posturing and chest-beating on behalf of both Harper and Dion."
If Harper wants an election, he simply has to follow the example of Pierre Trudeau in 1974, who brought in a confidence bill that none of opposition parties could bear to support, he said.
Dysfunction?
The prime minister has complained about dysfunction in Parliament, particularly in the committees where the opposition holds an advantage (the Tories once issued a manual on how to obstruct committee work).
But Rosemary Thompson said the antics of Conservative witnesses at recent hearings into the so-called "in-and-out" affair from the 2006 federal election raise questions about whether the Tories are actually trying to create dysfunction in order to provide cover for triggering a federal campaign.
Maybe they needn't worry.
Roughly eight years ago, Liberal Prime Minister Jean Chretien called an election for Nov. 27, 2000 -- even though he was only about three years into a majority mandate.
"Mr. (Stockwell) Day dared me to call an election," Chretien told reporters on Oct. 17, 2000 as he kicked off the campaign. Day had only been on the job as Canadian Alliance leader since July.
Some pundits speculated the voters would punish Chretien for calling an early and unnecessary election. They were wrong. Chretien's Liberals won 172 seats, a gain of 15 over 1997. No party has won a majority since.
However, Chretien -- whom the Tories privately admire as a political operator, Thompson said -- went into the campaign with his party polling in the high 40s. The Alliance was stuck in the 20 per cent range.
Current polls show a statistically insignificant difference between the Liberals and Conservatives, but that might change once an election call forces people to start thinking about their choices, pollster Peter Donolo of The Strategic Counsel told CTV.ca.
With a softening economy weakening government coffers -- including a deficit in the first two months of the current fiscal year -- and a depleted legislative agenda, both Donolo and Behiels said Harper now sees logic in triggering a vote.
At the same time, "I don't think the Liberals can continue to play the same game" -- propping up the Tories to buy themselves time, Behiels said. "Now that stage is over, and Mr. Dion is the one who has to make a tough decision," he said.
Harper may wish to pre-empt that for Dion and continue building the narrative that his Grit rival is a weak leader, he said.
Despite all the election talk, Thompson said it still doesn't feel to her like a typical pre-election period in Ottawa.
There have been election high alerts issued repeatedly over the 2½-year life of this minority Parliament that eventually turned out to be false. It remains to be seen if the leaders will fish this time, or if they'll continue to cut bait.
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I applaud the budget, even though Health Care and education may stay unscathed. Sadly this cannot last and I worry to later this year where cuts will become enviable. If anything, this provides the Wildrose Alliance plenty of ammo when an election is called.


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Mark
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Minority governments are very different. They are 'expected to fall' well before the 4 year term is up (the fact that this is one of the longest minorities in history is quite a feat for the Conservatives).
There are provisions in the law to allow for the break-up of paliament in a minority situation!
Socialism is killing us
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Here we go...
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Phil
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The Voice
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Craig
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And that's okay, it is his perogative.
The opposition cannot continue to criticize the government on EVERY single bill, hold up EVERY bill in committee by trying to add illogical amendments or non-sensical votes (Cadman vote on top of the Crime bill??????) then abstain when it comes to final passage.
They is what is paralyzing parliament.
Mr. Dion says that Canadians now "want an election". Well, there's not grey area there. He has got to put his money where the mouth is and vote.
Of course what he really meant was "we want an election as soon as we move ahead in the polls".
You are all criticizing the Prime Minister for supposedly trying to break the election law when it hasn't even been done yet. Also, why would he call an election when every single poll says that the outcome will be the same.
Don't turn every story listed here as another opportunity to bash the Prime Minister. He's not the only one playing politics.
As for everyone bemoaning the lack of cooperation in the minority house of commons. Do people forget what was going on during the 1950s and 60s with the repeated Diefenbaker/Pearson/Trudeau elections?
This is what happens.
J H
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Buba
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PrairieDog
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Red X
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Clearly it is the Conservatives in the committees that are causing the trouble.
The opposition has done its job opposing a party that over spent in the last campaign and is trying to move away from their record attacking the Liberal green shift which will actually bring income tax cuts...
Doug BC
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I do think there is a gridlock in Ottawa,and that an election might clear the air.Sadly,I also expect another minority.Although a fresh start would probably be some help.
The problem for Mr.Harper is that it was his party that brought in the fixed election date.So,if he does make a decision that this parliament isn't working,Liberals will beat him over the head with it.On the other hand,he can expect no co-operation from any of the left wing parties on the opposition benches or in any of the commitees dealing with legislation.
Mr.Harpers challenges are unique,in that his is the only Conservative,or right wing party.Unlike the Liberals,who are little more than the NDP in drag.Socialists are the reason I now vote for the Conservatives after decades of supporting Liberals.
I am not especially fond of Mr.Harper.But this is still the best government we have had in a very long time.I would prefer a sligtly less right wing party,but there is no way I can vote for the very left wing,social engineering policies of the current Liberals.Or as I call them,"NDP Lite".
By this time,I had hoped the Liberals would have been able to find the political centre.They have not,so I will gladly accept lower taxes,lower debt for Canada,tougher sanctions against criminals,upgrades for our military,and plans for the far north.
Surely even the anti America spewing Liberals must be getting close to recognizing that a neutered military,and massive debt are serious threats to Canadian sovereignty.We have fewer choices if we have high debt,and no military presence in NATO.
While I concede theese are tough times for some,the road to real sovereignty is well worth the price we will have to pay.
Patricia
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David
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Dion, Harper, Layton and Duceppe, your mandate has been given to you. The Canadian people have decided that no party should have a majority. Work with the mandate we have given you or be replaced by someone who will do it.
Steve
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OttawaGuy
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Cliff
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Torontonian
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Some how I find it a bit peculiar that some are saying that we are paying down the debt. However, I see that we are running deficits. How do we finance deficits? MORE DEBT. It's amazing how the right thinks.
Bring on an election. I want Harper out.
Tom
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Geoff Virgo
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Before flaming others to "get educated" perhaps you'd do well to follow your own advice. The amendment to the Elections Act passed by Harper's gov't in 2006 sets a fixed election date for ALL Parliaments regardless of whether they are minority or majority. It's stated intend is to remove the ability of the PM to call a snap election in order to capitalize on either their own political fortunes or the opposition's mis-fortunes. In a minority gov't the opposition is still able to force an election by defeating a confidence motions however is is ILLEGAL for the the gov't to call the election itself (as Harper is indicating he may do) and it is entirely against the spirit of his own legislation for hsi gov't to engineer it's own defeat. While the later may not be technically illegal, it still flies in the face of the legislation and would further re-inforces that the Harper and his Con's have zero respect for the laws of Parilament and this country, even the one's he introduced and passed, whenever those laws are inconvenient for Harper's own petty little agenda.
Frank Buchan
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I also think one bit of election reform might come in handy: a "none of the above" checkbox that was valid. It might send a message.
As for the people who actually thing the "green shift" tax is somehow going to save the environment, or reduce income taxes...you really need to think through the logic. Neither of those things can happen, and in a country this large, with the population spread so thin outside cities, a carbon tax scheme will cripple us economically. We are not some European country packed to the gills with people in a small area, we are a vast and largely remote country with no means to avoid having to heat our homes, etc.
Jason Daniel Baker
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I think Harper will find he is better received having had something resembling a record in office rather than merely having his far right-wing past activism define him.
I still don't think he can win a majority and believe a more moderate leader would have won a majority for the Tories in the last election.
If we get another minority I wonder how the NDP will be able to justify not propping some sort of Liberal Party governing arrangement. If they start helping the Liberals again they will render themselves redundant. But they will do the same if they seem to helping Harper.
mac
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The Conservatives must be put out of government before they do any more damage to the country.
Hey Lefty get out of my pocket
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Red Star
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Harper is evil for trying to force an election. We need to get him out of office as soon as possible.
We'll show him. The very first opportunity we have we will defeat the government and force and election.
The Canadian people will love us.
DD
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Dan
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John
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The strategies being employed are clearly TOO sophisticated for the MAJORITY of reporters to understand.
Good fun.
Commander Adama
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Red X - Clearly you have not watched the ethics committee meetings. The so called Tax Cuts you refer to are more like put money in one hand while simultaneously taking it out of your other hand.
The Voice - Like the article says, put up or shut up. Tell your imperious leader to throw down the gauntlet at the first opportunity. Will Stephan grow a backbone and stand up on his hind legs or will he remain limp and do more of nothing.
Ontarian
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Keep waving your hammer and sickle flag all the way to China. I like the country the way it is and I like a leader who actually leads. Leaning to the left will basically destroy this country.
Red X
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Flaherty and the Conservatives offer no tax cuts. At least the green shift will give tax cuts to those who work and earn income. It will be the major producers of carbon who will have to change their behaviour over time.
BB in B.C.
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Stephen
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It does lead to longer campaigns. It also leads to an undisciplined opposition, as we have seen. The potential of an election keeps everyone in line, government and opposition.
Get rid of the law no matter who wins the next election.
Steve the Pundit
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Anyone with any memory of history must know that Trudeau and Chretien, as Prime Ministers, ruled with an iron fist, did not compromise, firmly controlled the agenda, did not tolerate dissenters or disloyalty, and did their utmost to make the opposition look like wimps (Stanfield, Manning) or, worse, scary (again Manning, Day, Harper). Anybody remember what happened to Paul Martin when his leadership ambitions got out of hand? Chretien FIRED HIM FROM CABINET!
And here's another history lesson: what happens when leaders behave in this "dictatorial" manner? THEY GET RE-ELECTED!!! Time and time again (Trudeau four times, Chretien three). And what happens to leaders who show themselves to be indecisive and not in control (Turner, Martin)? THEY DON'T GET RE-ELECTED!!! And who do they get replaced by? A leader from the right wing that appears strong in comparison (Mulroney, Harper).
Let's face it: people seek out leaders who are strong and decisive. Harper is behaving EXACTLY as someone on the left would if they seriously wanted to get into power. Why the double standard, people?
May
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To those of you who think PM Harper is breaking the law; nope. He still has every right to go to the Governor General if he feels Parliament has become dysfunctional and cannot work; just as the opposition still has the power to bring the government down at any time. That’s not being sneaky, it’s necessary. Anything less would seriously conflict with Parliamentary law. Read the legislation people (note to some journalists too).
I would like to see an election in 2009, but I am content to go now if necessary. I don’t blame the PM at all for considering this option given what Parliament has become. The main reason is this: if I were in his shoes, I would have pulled the plug months ago. He has far more patience and restraint then I.
PJR
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"The opposition cannot continue to criticize the government on EVERY single bill"
What?Last time I checked that's actually the opposition's job!
And with a PM like this thank god we have one (granted a useless one but still). Perhaps Harper didn't go to the olympics because he was scared the Chinese would point out some shared dictatorial practices such as media censorship? just a thought!
Marcel
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Baba Booey
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Having an election will be good for all of us. No one will win a majority. The Conservatives will toss Harper because he's had chances to win a majority government but couldn't deliver. The Liberals will realise that Dion isn't the answer either. We'll get new leaders on both sides of the House and hopefully better choices for the next NEXT election.
I believe if we still had a Progressive Conservative party there would be no question who would win the next election. These current Conservative policies will NEVER sell to 45% or more of the nation. Until the Reformers are removed and a more progressive approach is assumed, we're going to be mired with minority governments.
Baba Booey
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G. L. Scott
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We still don't know about whether the money juggling was legal or not. But what the hearings did show me about the Cons was their weaselly tactics, their rudeness, their refusal to honestly engage in the hearings, and their obstructive tactics. If I ever hear the words "Point of order!" again, my head will pop.
GLS
AylmerBob
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Let me introduce you to David Peterson and Bob Rae, then you'll know a little about wrecking the economy.
KRB
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Doug from Whitehorse
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That being said, I have yet to see much different, or disfunctional for that matter from any other government in the past 40 years. However, I really feel that any government that puts forward regulations on fixed elections and then works to circumvent their own law doesn't offer much, if anything, in the way of integrity.
Max
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Undoubtedly, Harper sees Dion as a little, french-accented mouse with glasses (a weak-kneed political geek) who Canadians won't be able to bring themselves to elect...especially with nutty schemes like the "Green Shift" in his front pocket.
All this election talk is just a waste of time.
Parliament rarely functions properly anyway; however, it's time to get back to the remaining business at hand in Ottawa, folks!
Earl Robert
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Max
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Evidently, nobody has explained to you (through historical example) that Socialism doesn't work. If you're looking forward to an increase in your overall standard of living via higher taxes and greater "social spending" then you're looking forward to a foolish miracle that stands no chance of being realized.
Regarding Ontario's plight, the province has relied too heavily, for too long, on basic "old school" manufacturing. It's 2008 and people (including Premier McGuinty) fail to grasp that, economically, much of Ontario is still stuck in 1980.
We need to keep moving forward. A vote for the Liberals or the NDP is a vote to give a failed ideology (Socialism Lite & Socialism Bold) yet another worthless try.
Mike from Canmore
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This is good...
TheOracle
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As usual, the electorate is being manipulated by arrogant, self-serving politicians who care little about the real issues facing us daily and have no coherent vision for our future.
Where are the bright, altruistic, intelligent public servants that we deserve?
Where is the Lester Pearson of the new millenium?
Where is the leader who is a concensus builder who takes Canada and the well- being of all of it's citizens seriously enough to look for solutions instead of arguing conflicting ideology and generating regional divisiveness.
I'll vote for that person if I ever see them on a ballot.
I agree with Steve the Pundit
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Read his words, folks!!! It's the truth!!! We need a strong leader and that's that.