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Date: Mon. Aug. 18 2008 11:02 PM ET
Many Canadians hold negative attitudes towards people with mental health issues, says a new poll released Monday by the Canadian Medical Association.
The CMA says those attitudes have not changed in decades. The federal government has announced $75 million in funding to de-stigmatize mental health in Canada, but results could take years.
The poll, which was part of the CMA's 2008 National Report Card, showed 46 per cent of Canadians think people use the term "mental illness" as an excuse for bad behaviour.
One of four Canadians in the survey said they were scared to be around someone with a mental illness - something that doesn't surprise Tammy Lambert.
She has suffered from schizoaffective disorder for more than a decade. She writes poems about her delusions and says she often feels alone at school, fighting the fears of other people.
"I don't think that they mean to treat you differently, it's just something that happens," Lambert said. "It's like mental illness red flags people."
The poll also showed only 50 per cent of Canadians would tell a friend that a family member had a mental illness -- compared to 72 per cent who would talk about a cancer diagnosis.
"We need to do a major education effort aimed at the public because the stigma with mental illness is clearly, clearly out there," Dr. Brian Day, CMA's president, told CTV News.
In an earlier press release, he said that "in some ways, mental illness is the final frontier of socially-acceptable discrimination."
The poll also found that:
- a solid majority of Canadians would not have a family doctor (61 per cent) or hire a lawyer (58 per cent) who has a mental illness;
- 55 per cent would not marry someone who has a mental illness;
- 27 per cent of respondents are fearful of being around people experiencing serious mental illness;
- 15 per cent of respondents had themselves received a previous diagnosis of clinical depression, the most common mental illness.
Meanwhile, less than half of Canadians think people struggling with drug and alcohol addictions have a mental illness, says the report.
The results also showed that only one in five Canadians would socialize with someone who has a drug or alcohol addiction.
"These figures show clearly the insidious stigma still associated with mental health and mental illness," said Day. "These are the attitudes that have kept mental health on the outside for far too long."
Despite the stigmas, 72 per cent of respondents agreed that funding to treat mental illness should be equal to money spent on physical illnesses such as cancer.
With a report by CTV's Graham Richardson
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I applaud the budget, even though Health Care and education may stay unscathed. Sadly this cannot last and I worry to later this year where cuts will become enviable. If anything, this provides the Wildrose Alliance plenty of ammo when an election is called.


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Bert
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Chris
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Tonya Alton
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barbara daley
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I was taught not to discriminate bwtween physical and mental illness when I was nursing, Also do not judge another person till you have walked a mile in their shoes. It is way past time people really learned the facts re mental illness before it happens to them or someone they love.
Eric
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Its hard to equate how to divy up money for research. The percentage will always be unfair in someone's mind. Just make sure its not wasted, and how can any of us complain, nor should we.
Nicole
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The Real Jonny
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1000 years ago, it would have been hard work or death; these days you just have to know what to say to a psychiatrist to get pills and a permanent subsidy from the government. Guess what: hard work is a good way to keep depression at bay.
Katie
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Sandra
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Inversity
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Until a clear, concise, and WHO (Wold Health Organization)definition of what constitutes "mental health" can be ascertained, the discrimination and stigma will continue to affect all those who have been diagnosed or even "labelled" as having a "mental illness"....
P.S. Do olympic athletes who take steroids suffer from a "mental illness" in doing illegal activities to try to get the "gold", "silver" or "bronze"????
Kim
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Martin
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Ann Daniels
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Buba
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That being said, I think it is our civic duty in a modern society to educate ourselves about these problems in order to try to understand them and have some compassion for those afflicted with them.
david
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Ki-Som
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Courtney
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I have a degree in Social work, and I have been working in the mental health field for many years. I think it is very sad that there is such a negative stigma associated with mental illness, and that people in our society are not trying to educate themselves before making assessments and opinions on people who are living with these horrible conditions.
Mental illness is a biological imbalance of chemicals in the brain. You cannot bring it upon yourself, nor can you just wish it to go away.
We cannot expect people who's brains are not working properly to be rational and "normal". This is why we see "odd" behaviors, people refusing to take medications, and persons who cannot hold down jobs. It would be like asking someone with a broken leg to run a marathon- it simply won't happen.
I encourage all of you who are posting to educate yourselves about mental illness. The BC Schizophrenia Society offers many programs for education, including family education courses (where you learn about your loved ones illness), and public presentations where you can hear first hand experiences of a person with a mental illness.
I have had many clients tell me that the hardest part of living with a mental illness is not dealing with scary voices, or learning to cope through major anxiety or depression. Rather, it is dealing with what other people think of them. This is very, very sad.
Until you have personally felt what it is like to have clinical depression, anxiety, paranoia, voices, and such, please do not judge.
Mateo
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Frank Buchan
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A lot will then be answering from a worse-case viewpoint, making the results unreliable.
Second, even if we assume people know enough about mental illness to qualify their answers, the questions themselves seem designed to ensure high negative responses. If my family doctor suffers mild depression, or has any of a number of mental illnesses that are problematic but not debilitating, I will stand by them; but I certainly would abandon them if they suffer something debilitating, because it affects my quality of and access to service. No one is going to choose a service provider who may be inaccessible due to a known illness of any kind. An even more precise proof of the nonsense factor in these results: who would ever hang onto a family doctor who starts to suffer dementia? Of course you won't, because that illness, while tragic for the sufferer, degrades your service reliability. It's not stigma that makes you turn away, it is practicality.
As for those fearful of being around people with serious mental illness, how is that stigma? That's either a lack of awareness (a whole other issue), or perhaps an experience-based response. I know someone with bi-polar disorder I would trust my life to, but I also know a person with bi-polar who refuses to take their medecine, drinks, and is extremely violent at times even when unprovoked. I certainly would have to say I'm fearful of folks on the problem end of that spectrum. It doesn't imply stigma to recognise some people (mentally ill or not) represent danger. And since they lump alcoholism in with mental illnesses these days, how many of the respondents are thinking of the violent drunk they know and fear?
Finally, Chris' comment identifies the source of "stigma" that does exist. For most of us it isn't the legitimately mentally ill that are the problem, it is the socially irresponsible way the concept is used. Every time we see mental illness used as an excuse by the shiftless or irresponsible jerks of the world, we see the concept as faulty. The worse aspect of this is it is this broad use of mental illness as a catchall excuse for bad behaviour that explains why we do such a poor job helping those with real needs -- we drain resources off pandering to the idea no one should take responsibility for themselves.
And to enlighten Dr. Day some, mental illness is not race, gender or religion. It is more akin to serious physical illness. Substitue cancer and your inferences start to fall apart, because the same basic percentages would appear by every question asked, except perhaps awareness would soften the edges.
concerned
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That being said, we are also very careful about sharing information about our loved one's illness. Attitudes are very primitive in this country. I find it alarming that people are so lacking in education in this area. Psychosis affects 1% of our population - do the math. I'm saddened to see how many people are writing to say they think mental illness is being used as an excuse for bad behaviour. It is also disheartening to see how many shows on television (eg. CSI) portray violent criminals as scizophrenics. A scizophrenic is no more likely to be violent that anyone else. Check the statistics. It's very easy to form an opinion (or bias) if it hasn't touched your life. When you have walked in the shoes of someone who is suffering from mental illness, or in the shoes of the people who are closest to them, you might find your opinion changing.
Eve Brown
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Maybe you should do some more research on your sisters illness. It is quite common for individuals with a mental illness such as your sister to try and medicate themselves with drugs or alcohol. Maybe you should try and be a bit more understanding and supportive. After all it could have been you with this condition instead of her.
Been There
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Mairin
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Depression is not an occasional fit of "the blues" that most people experience from time to time. Depression is experiencing the horror and shame of an alien invading your mind and body. You live in a "black hole" while everyone else's regular day to day world passes you by.
I was a successful, professional lady who went from the joys of owning her own business to living off her RRSPs (they are all gone now, I have no retirement funds and I am 57). I was too ashamed to apply for welfare so I used my RRSPs. I wouldn't want the lowest scumbag of society to experience what I have. Unfortunately, as I have no visible effects on my body, a lump on my face or a horn on my head or my flesh falling off my body, people find it hard to believe that I have a life threatening illness.
Diabetes is a life threatening illness caused by a chemical imbalance. Clinical depression and other mental illnesses are also life threatening illnesses caused by a chemical imbalance. Please give us the benefit of some credibility even though you can't SEE our illness.
jtk
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As for the other items in the poll, I'd like to see how the questions were posed especially the one about being around 'serious mental illness'.
As human beings, we should all take care of each other and treat everyone with the same kindness and generousity we expect from others.
I'm sorry for those with such serious illness that come up against mistreatment by others. This is not right. I only hope things get better and that such treatment is not something intentional to hurt people - as noted in comments above I think education is important.
Mike
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Heather
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How insensitive and clueless you are! It must be nice to neither have a mental illness yourself, nor someone close to you who does. Actually, there probably is someone close to you who has a mental illness, but knows better than to share it with you.
It's a little difficult to 'work hard' when you can't get out of bed due to the level of your depression. You insensitive cad.
I hope nobody ever has to depend on you to get them through their illness.
rM
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No sense in condemning the outcome, it is what it is...human nature.
Live with it.
M.E. Hall
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Kate
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Vince M
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Excuse me? Who are the remaining 39% who wouldn't mind someone managing their estate who would never be convicted of fraud because they are mentally ill?
We live in a country where all reason has been thrown out the window.
Vince M.
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What a terrible bigot I am.
Phil.
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My dear parents spearheaded a personal campaign for knowledge exchange to cope, and you know what? I'm happy they are happy, we get along
There was even this said to what ills people considered normal in the world, who is therefore vacant of mental illness?
I feel for the people here, keep up the good fight against your illnesses, tell someone don't keep it bottled inside with a macho attitude and end up in like a Greyhound incident.
To nay sayers out there: Take your (General) Patton and bring it down to size [just watch the movie and a particular scene will reveal what I'm saying here].
The ability to walk and talk is not necessarily licence or ability to everything else. If it was, Patton would have to have kissed Hitler.
Sharon
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I have worked with people with mental illness and found in some cases these people can be highly intellegent and very capable of having a successful meaningful life.
But society would rather go by the stigmatisms and stereotypes rather than educating and learning the facts.
M. OMalley
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glen p robbins
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There is a large number of people with garden variety depression--where a physiological symptom lack of seratonin may be a contributing factor. Most people with alcohol problems suffer from some type of depression--where alcohol is their mood regulator--these people represent 10% of the population, consume 50% of total alcohol sales at a huge cost to society, and are more often than not in higher income brackets (professionals etc) Couple this more garden variety---which might be characterized as 'whining' by some in the public--perpetuated by institutional denials (insurance etc.) with clinical depression and other more serious mental illness and one can see that it is an issue that demographically hits home with many Canadians as the poll suggests. In my opinion this is an important subject and Canadians will become more empathetic with more information and knowledge.
Glen P. Robbins
The Real Jonny
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FreakAlert
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Some things are just best left alone.
Jenn E
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We have found the reactions of people in and around us to be very shocking and as a result we have very little to no communication at all with my husband's family. I can only wish that others suffering from mental illness will step forward and that we will be understood better by the masses. Until you have experienced it yourself, you will never fully understand what it means to have a mental illness. However it does not give society the right to be so judgmental of those who suffer with an illness.
I can honestly say that there is help out there for us suffering, and with proper medications and supportive family and friends, it is very possible for someone to live a fairly normal life, or at least manage their illness. If you met my husband you probably would never guess he was ill, and that he took medication everyday. He seems very normal, works a full time job, and is a wonderful artist, but it saddens my heart to think that people would not be accepting of him. Until you have gone through depression or some other mental illness you have no concept of what it is like
For The Real Jonny , nicole and chris, please please educate yourselves and wake up and smell some coffee. Its people like you who make those of us who suffer feel worse and have no understanding. I am shameful to admit until my first severe episode of depression, I was on “your” side, but now I must say that I have taken the time to learn about mental illness and learned to accept other. My ultimate goal in life is to be RN who works with individuals suffering from mental illness, so that hopefully I can make an impact on their life and let them know that there are people out there who care about them regardless of what they have.
Courtney- I commend you for what you said and what you do. My neighbor is also a social worker in similar field of work, and I tell you she has been a great support and has really helped us move forward in our lives. Just remember you are making an impact and that even though you may not always feel that way, that someone life has been greatly impacted by your understanding, support and willingness to work with them.
Andrew
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Mae
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Jeanne
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I have a BA and a MSW from University of Toronto, and I also have a mental illness. I work in the Mental Health field, with people who are psychologically unwell, and help them with daily activities. These are wonderful people, who are trying to live their lives with a mental illness. It really blows my mind regarding some of the ignorant comments on this site, about mental illness.
As someone else said: Mental illness is a biological imbalance of chemicals in the brain. You cannot bring it upon yourself, nor can you just wish it to go away.
I'm sure I will be corrected, but I believe the ratio for mental illness in Canada is three out of five people! Which, is staggering. Many of you who have a mental illness are afraid to be diagnosed, because of this stigma - and I hate to say this, but I really don't blame you. However, try to get the courage to see a Psychiatrist and get diagnosed, there are pills for almost every illness - and they do help. I know first hand.
I would appreciate those of you who are critical, to take a walk in my shoes.
Max
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It reminds me of the mindless chatter that accompanies discussion of the "homeless problem."
"Mental Illness" is a catch-all that could probably envelope just about everybody. With my tongue planted firmly in my cheek, I can suggest that we're all a little nutty. (I'm not sure I've met a "normal" person in my whole life. Everybody is a little "off" in some regard.)
Indeed, mental illness is a very real, very serious affliction that we, in my humble opinion, over-treat with prescription medications and under-treat with time, attention, professional therapy, and support.
Because there are countless shades of mental illness, those with milder forms will likely always be inclined to suffer silently, while those with severe forms are forced to rely on a loose system that still can't offer a "cure."
Lindsay
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Bi-Polar
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Alissa
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glen p robbins
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Jaden of BC
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Directly about the survey, I don't care if alcoholism or drug addiction is a mental illness or not. I hate drugs and I hate alcohol, and I avoid people who use them. Whether or not they can't help themselves is not an issue. It's just that I don't want to be around drunks and addicts.
I don't want someone to handle my finances if they can't be held criminally responsible for fraud. It doesn't matter if they 'couldn't help it' because of their mental illness. If they have been able to get through school at a high enough level to reach a job as an accountant, lawyer, whatever, they are certainly rational enough to understand right and wrong. Yet, if they DO do something wrong (like cheat my family out of our hard-earned money), they are allowed to plead mental illness, and get off with a slap on the wrist. And we're supposed to feel sorry for them?
I whole-heartedly believe that many people use a 'mental illness' as a crutch, or an excuse for bad behaviour FAR too often. Now, before you jump all over me, saying I am close-minded or whatever else, you might want to know that I have a multiple personality disorder, I'm bipolar, and I'm dyslexic. I'm also the top student at my school, and am in all Advanced Placement classes. I recently received 99% on my English Provincial Exam, in spite of my dyslexia. No one knows I'm dyslexic, and I'm not treated in any special way because I'm dyslexic. It disgusts me to see other dyslexic children refuse to try and help themselves, and instead coast through life using their mental illness as an excuse. It’s never an excuse. They choose to handcuff themselves, whether it’s because they’re too far gone in self pity to believe that they can be better, or they don’t want to be better. I'm bipolar, and when you couple that with a multiple personality disorder, it makes it very difficult for me to socialize, or keep friends and relationships for a long time. Why should I let that ruin my life?
I wouldn't want my family telling my relatives that I'm supposedly "mentally ill." It's my business, and I don't want to be treated any differently. I don't want to be talked to like I'm five, and I don't want people to give me extra attention, or liberties. I don’t want to be treated differently because I’m messed up in the head.
That's how I sympathize with other people like me. Most of us want to be treated like normal, if we have disorders that allow us to be so. But no one can deny that there aren't those out there who abuse the diagnosis, using it to get special treatment. And you also can't deny that there are some of us that will NEVER be treated like a normal person, because it's just not possible.
I can understand why some people are afraid of those who are mentally ill. Unpredictability is something most humans fear. Plus, most people fear what they don't understand. Obviously there is still a stigma attached to mental illness. I'm not refuting that. It would be naive to think that Canadians live discrimination-free lives. But at least we're free to discuss and debate our society without fear of being ostracized. Change doesn't occur instantly. It takes a while for both sides to swallow their pride (or pity) and change our way of thinking about ourselves, and others.
Yeah, it's hard to live with an MPD and a bipolar disorder. But you know what? LIFE is hard. Tough. I think a lot of people need to get over it, and themselves. Everyone is struggling with something, and it's not really as bad as you think. All we are is the sum of our scars. How we survive, and learn to live with them, is what makes us who we are.
PS - this comment took me more than half an hour to write because of dyslexia, and my MPD. Hard work is key. You can overcome most problems if you don't let them control your life. I guess we should all stop dwelling on the problems, and concentrate on finding the solution.
And to david, you have to work your gorram ass off to get better. Especially to get over depression. We're not talking manual labour, here.
And to Courtney, I had a desk thrown at my head when I was seven years old by a boy in my class who refused to take his Ritalin. Another kid smashed out all the lights in one hallway of my elementary school, because his crayon broke. Another kid started chucking pool balls and scissors after he had stopped taking his medication. My girlfriend stopped taking her medication and cut herself all over her body, and started throwing herself into walls. Self harm is a type of violence, in my mind. From my personal experience, mental illnesses and lack of medication can lead to violence.
Bob K
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Mike
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Ann O.N.
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If I am diagnosed, I will not be hired, I will not be befriended, and I will be treated worse than someone who abuses social systems joyously.
I know people who use their mental illness as a crutch to be lazy, I've seen it firsthand. They have everything handed to them and have no work ethic. The stigma is given to all on the basis of these people.
I may have a mental illness, but will never admit it because I refuse to be grouped into the same category as those people. I'd rather die than be labeled as having a mental illness.
That's how bad the situation is in one of the most advanced countries in the world for people like me.
Richard
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While I have been very open with my illness, I was surprised by the people who viewed it as a weakness and began to distance themselves from me. I have been luckier than some. My medication has help control my depression and this episode has shown me who I could count as a true friend.
boysie ramsoomair (ram)
said
Mental illness is more complex and difficult to unravel than a physical ailment. The reason for this is that we cannot fully grasp the nature of the mind.
Until we do, which may not be possible, we will
continue to suffer.
As someone who has also suffered and is totally
free from this for more than 25 years, I can assure you that the stigma is mine to take to the grave.
Ram
Elisabeth Ziegler
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1) What is the medical profession doing to stigmatize people with mental health issues?
2) What are we conditioned to believe by the pharmaceutical industry in order to ensure their profits?
3) How much "mental illness" is from trauma, assault and abuse?
4) How much mental illness is caused by our value as humans in North America as determined by our jobs and ability to spend, reduced support far flung families?
5) How much mental illness is caused by the need for more ways to define "have vs. have not"?
5) Maybe we wouldn't have to differentiate between mental "illness" and "bad behaviour" if we accepted people for who they were, and judged simply their actions?
I'd like to see the emphasis on mental "health" not "illness" and those things which prevent us from being mentally "healthy".
Angela Guenther
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It was the turning point for me since i have only gotten slowly better since. It is 5 or so years since then, my relationship with my teenage daughter has slowly gotten better, and i take my meds faithfully knowing that even the shortest period of time without them will throw me back. But i am honestly, even living in the abject poverty that disablility covers me for, the happiest that i have been in my whole life. I finally know who I am and why i did certain things in the past. And as funny as it may seem, even tho I know I am bipolar, i am not the freak or wierdo that i had always thought myself to be before. It's all about fitting in.
Joey (Montreal)
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Wendy - of WPG
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Jaden of BC
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Jaden of BC
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Is it mental illness, or simply the faults of being human? Over-diagnosing only harms the people who truly need professional attention.
If we are able to shrug mental illness off as something "everyone has," wouldn't that make it normal? Anyone with a serious illness will tell you that "normal" and "mental illness" are decidedly not equivalent.
Katherine
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However I will forgive you as ignorance and lack of empathy is the issue here.
Before I experienced mental illness in my life, I judged those with mental illness. I use to think that an alcoholic was selfish and use to say “why don’t they just stop, it’s not that hard.”
True, someone could abuse the system and lie their way to time off work. However someone could claim false medical ailments as well, say a back injury etc. So should we judge and be skeptical of anyone claiming a back injury?
I am a full time university student working towards a medical degree, I have a part time job at a hospital, and I volunteer every week. No one in a million years would guess what I have gone through in my life.
John Lee
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Anonymous Again
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I find that the media and the entertainment industry has also helped the negative impact on people who suffer with a mental illness.
As I who have suffered with bipolar for many years, have had to hide my illness the best I could, because of fear of losing my job.
I have seen others at my place of employment treated as if they had the plague, not really getting a fair chance to exceed in their vocation.
This is a beginning and thank you, it's about time. But the media, the entertainment industry and even big business, must do whatever they can to stop the unfair treatment and prejudice against us, who suffer a mental illness.
brian
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SRG
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Jeannette
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Dale Wilson
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Em
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Shawn
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I cannot deny that I have observed individuals abuse the system, but that is true of a lot of people. Someone hurts themselves and never returns to work even if they are capable of doing something or the people who go and have kids who have no way to support them and so on.
I would fault the doctors for enabling people to do this and lawyers (or whomever) who sue doctors who won't and policy makers and people who fight to allow people to use this as a crutch.
I know I suffer from moderate to severe depression (as per a psychologist) and maybe even bipolar. The situation has got so bad that it has caused some major issues with my wife. I am lucky that I have been able to keep going though, for now.
And for the record, I don't want drugs to cover my symptoms. If I did I would live my life in an alcoholic haze. I just want my life back and to know why this has happened.
For anyone who has never felt the pain depression, it can be like sitting in a room full of people and being alone. It can feel someday like all the life has been sucked out of your soul. You have no idea how much torment one suffers from with depression.
The negative comments that have been posted are exactly why I don't want to deal with it or have anyone know. Life is hard enough with out having someone else making it harder for you because of something you have.
Martin
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