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Date: Wed. Jul. 23 2008 5:11 PM ET

Canada's fisheries minister has issued a stern reproach to European lawmakers over a proposed ban on seal products from countries that "practice cruel hunting methods."

The European Union's environment commissioner Stavros Dimas put forward the legislation Wednesday with the goal of leveraging seal-hunting countries to improve practices that he said are often "gruesome" and unacceptable.

Fisheries Minister Loyola Hearn reacted swiftly, vowing to stand up for Canadian hunters and warning the EU members they were on thin ice.

"Once again, we would like to caution European decision-makers: adopting broad regulations to ban products from a responsible, sustainable and well-regulated hunt is a slippery slope," Hearn said in a statement.

"To bow to misinformation and emotional rhetoric in restricting the trade of humanely harvested animals would set a dangerous precedent for all wild hunts."

The 27-members of the EU and the European Parliament would have to back the proposal for it to take effect.

Rebecca Aldworth, a spokesperson for the U.S. Humane Society, said the animal rights group was pleased with the proposal.

"It's a very strong step at this stage in the process and we are absolutely thrilled this has come out of the commission," she told NTV News.

"This is just a first step and now it goes to parliament. But given that, I believe, 425 members of the European parliament signed the original written declaration, which called for a total ban on sealing products, I believe this proposal will only be strengthened."

Proposal review

Hearn said the government, provinces and stakeholders will be reviewing in coming months how the proposed regulations, and any possible exemptions, would affect Canada.

Canadian hunters and exporters maintain their practices are humane and that the hunt is sustainable and vital to many isolated communities in Atlantic Canada. If it is brought into law, the legislation could virtually eliminate a key market for Canadian hunters.

Mike Hearn, veteran sealer in Newfoundland, said Canada should counter any potential ban with trade barriers of its own.

"We may need things they have. But they certainly need a lot of things that we have in this country," said Hearn. :I think we have to step up to the plate and make them answer for what they're doing."

In recent years the Canadian hunt has become tense as animal rights activists from around the world come to observe, document and protest the hunt.

This spring, tensions were highest when members of the Sea Shepherd Society clashed with the Canadian Coast Guard as it tried to impose a limit on how close the activists could come to sealing vessels.

Ban 'cautiously welcomed'

The International Fund for Animal Welfare "cautiously welcomed" the EU's proposed move.

"It's a very positive step. Closing the European markets to Canadian seal products should give our government a serious wake-up call," Sheryl Fink, researcher with the IFAW said in a news release.

"This proposal shows that the European Commission is concerned about the cruelty inherent in commercial seal hunts, and understands the importance of animal welfare for European citizens. It's too bad our politicians don't pay the same attention to Canadian concerns."

With a report from NTV News

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Dalia
said

Cruel and inhumane! I have seen the way these seals are killed, and it is sickening to watch. Bottom line its about the money and nothing else. If they paid these hunters minimum wage, Iam sure there would be a shortage of workers. STOP THE SEAL HUNT!


Lance E Taylor
said

Living in Alberta all my life I have no first hand knowledge of the seal hunt as we don't get to many ice flows.But I have seen the harvest many times on the television. I say why not leave it up to each person in this whole world weather they want to buy seal prouducts or not and keep the governments of various contries out nof it .


S Jupp
said

The EU should be looking in its own backyard first before condemning other countries. Slaughtering any animal is cruel and inhumane. Let's face it the human race is an omnivore. The only way to protect any species of animal from being wiped out is to have parks which are protected 24/7 from human beings needing to eat or wanting to make a dollar. Is this scenerio really viable? Or is this all just talk?


DD
said

Dalia....are you a vegan? If not, have you seen the way cows, pigs and chickens are kept and killed?

Are you still relying on the lies of the animal rights groups for your information? They use decades old information and videos to tug at your heart strings.

Despite what they STILL say, whitecoats are NO LONGER hunted. The vast majority use a rifle (you know, the same way people hunt deer and moose etc). The only ones that still club are in the Magdalen Islands where there are too many hunters to safely use rifles.

Numerous vet reports have declared the hunt both sustainable AND humane. Who are you to doubt their findings?

Educate yourselves. There are almost 7 million seals. At the peak of the hunt, the herd averaged 1 million seals.

In the end, it doesn't matter what the EU does. All it means is that the hunt will become a cull to keep the population down (you know, like they do with caribou, horses and wolves).

Oh wait...a caribou isn't cute...so it's okay to kill it.

Give me a break.


Mich
said

I see both comments above mine are based on what "they saw on tv". Of course the animal activists are going to protray the worst they can in order to get their point across. If anyone really truely wants to have an honest opinion come see first hand how our seal hunt IS humane and is a vital part of our economy and livelyhood.

I don't understand how anyone can judge or make remarks if you don't know the whole picture.


George
said

One more reason why we as Canadians are getting dictated to by other parts of the world. If they want to ban our products, then maybe we should stop sending our other resources such as oil, forest products and so on to them.


M Setterfield
said

Ever see a cow, pig or chicken being slaughtered? It's not much better than the seal hunt. The only reason people are up in arms about the seal hunt is because seals are cute. No one cares about cows, pigs or chickens. If you care about one animal, you have to care about all of the animals, otherwise your argument is baseless.

Ever see a child starve to death? I think opponents of the seal hunt could better spend their time and resources saving the human race.


R D
said

Where's Danny Williams now, when his people really need him.He should be all over Europe lobbying hard against this motion and he should be joined bt Mr. Harper and some of his cabinet.

Rob
said

The protesters will never, ever accept any method as humane. The European Food Safety Authority's 2007 report claims that the methods use are humane but it doesn't matter. Seals are cute so it will always be "cruel and inhumane" to these people, especially after they've seen footage with dramatic voice overs and music.


Andrew
said

Actions based on perceptions and emotions rather than the facts. The seal hunt is not inhumane or cruel. The clubbing of the seals is nearly painless and far faster than the alternative methods....much better than what we put other game through by shooting them, or even the way we kill animals such as cows and pigs. The media likes to play against the seal hunt by showing pictures of white baby seals, which aren't even part of the seal hunt (only the older, more mature seals). I'm not a hunter, I've never killed a thing in my life, but I support the seal hunt.


Chris
said

About the money, and what money! When hunters are obliged to risk their life on the ice just to be able to make it over the year because there is just nothing else to fish or to do to have a decent living, tell me about it.


arnie williamson
said

Maybe we should start with a 400% duty on european wines

Next why not a a ban on all leather products from farm animals inhumanley slaughtered and skinned alive in French and German slaughter houses

We harvest and kill animals for food and resources. Where did everyone think that meat in the supermarket or seal coat in the store came from anyway.




Daryl
said

I challenge someone to show me a hunt that everyone considers to be a humane way for an animal to die. The only difference with this hunt over others is that sealers risk their lives out on the ice flows to provide much needed income to pay for food, clothes, and also help make a better life for their children by saving for university tuition. Compared to something like sitting in a blind, drinking beer, and shooting deer I consider this a noble and proud part of our Canadian heritage that. I’m sure that the people who are against the hunt have never risked their lives to provide for their families and it’s a hypocrisy for them to even suggest that we end this sustainable and humane hunt. If this ban does get approved I would love to see Canada take a strong stance and ban imports of “inhumane” products from Europe and I think a good start would be the veal industry in France.


Rita Wilson
said

If the seal hunt is stopped, we will have to deal with a lot of other problems. They will over populate, eat all the fish that is still left, therefore also kill the fishing industry, then starve to death. In my opinion to control the seal population is more humane than letting them starve eventually.


Brian from Barrie
said

It's funny how people judge the industry by what they see on TV or see in pictures. Yes, I am sure th ehunt could be more humane, but I hope all those anti seal hunt people don't eat beef or pork. Maybe they should take their cameras into a slaughter house to see how a cows is killed. I have been and let me tell you it is just as inhumane, but I still eat beef. What about fishing? I would think a steel hook in the mouth, being dragged aboard and then clubed over the head is just as bad, but hey, thier only fish right? Cute little furry seals are the picture green peace and other want you to see, but if we stop th ehunt, then there would be an over population of them and no fish on the east coast. Keeping their numbers down is what is needed and best for us and them. Otherwise they starve to death.


Nancy
said

The seal hunt is a disgusting enterprise and Canada should have ended it many years ago. We don't seem very civilized or compassionate as far as animals are concerned. If it takes the EU to ban seal products to end this annual massacre, so be it, but I think it is embarrassing. All I can say is: Thank you, Europe! and to the Canadian Government: Stop using our tax dollars to subsidize and defend the seal hunt!!!!!!!!!
The day the seal hunt ends permanently, my family will end our boycott of tourism to Newfoundland and Labrador and we will plan a nice trip to see the seals!


John Kik
said

EU and the world in general are looking at this problem with blinders on. The entire ecosystem has been messed up in this region. First and foremost people want fish. Seals eat fish. Polar bears eat seals. The Polar bear population is almost extinct, now there are two many seals eating too many fish. Maybe the EU would like to also ban its huge fishing fleet from using the Grand Banks (so the seals have enought fish to eat) at the same time they ban importing seal products. Or maybe Canadian Sealers can kill their seal quote more humanely.


Dustin
said

What a load of hypocrites--the industrial meat industry is far more cruel and disgusting. Go have a look how battery hens or pigs are treated. At least these seals get to feel the sun and breath some fresh air.


beeman
said

The truth of this matter is that our Federal government is providing precious little support for this industry and this ban will be the result. There should be strong retaliatory measures announced. This proposed ban is a reaction to the hysteria of baseless accusations and should be recognized as such. There is little opposition to the ban in the EU Parilament and if our government had any gonads they would announce measures that would hurt where it counts. Maybe that would make them think twice.


Jason
said

Why does the taxpayer have to subsidize this pathetic hunt just so seasonal fishermen can qualify for lotto 10/42 handouts?

The government has to spend more than this atrocity is worth just to maintian it while destroying our reputation abroad.

Only in Canada.


Newfoundland Wolf
said

YES!!! GREAT! BAN the SEAL HUNT!

-Sealers hurt Canada
-The seal hunt loses money for the nation.
-It's an economic loss.
-Costs more than it makes.
-Seal meat contains Mercury, no good to eat.
-Eating it causes stunted mental development.
-It took the lives of 4 people this year.
-Sealers already make money as fishermen.
-This is merely a 2nd job, and disgusting.
-Sealers continue to shame Canada and stain the Good Canadian people.

The Seal hunt shall go into Canada's history and rejected the same as horrible "traditions" like cannibalism or slavery.


james
said

Lets see...coming from the EU, where the French stuff a goose until its liver explodes for a delicacy; the Spanish have bull fights and afterwards, the slaughtered bull is served at restaurants surrounding the arena; and the British chase foxes and deer with hounds until the animal is exhausted, followed by the ceremony of "blooding" the hunters. This is the ultimate in hypocrisy!
The arrogance of Europeans!


Lets hope our government will retaliate by baning lets say wine from the EU. I wonder how arrogant they will be when they loose a major North American market.


Trent
said

For the sake of the depleted fish stocks off the East coast the cull has to/will continue irregardless of a possible EU ban.
But I doubt a ban of Canadian seal products would occur as we are the most open book country inrelation to the hunt.


AnimalLover
said

Seal hunt is inhumane. The meat industry is inhumane. Please consider a vegetarian lifestyle!!!


Pro Seal Hunt
said

NANCY: Please don't end your boycott of Newfoundland... nobody there wants your kind, trust me!!!


Will
said

I hunt. I have for years. I make sure I need one shot and one shot only. IF I were to beat a deer to death I would loose my gun, my vehicle and probably be burned at the stake.We eat meat. As long as an animal is killed quickly I don't have a problem with hunting seals, deer, cows etc.A .22 cal rifle would dispatch a seal very quickly and with NO pain or fear.


Jim McB
said

There is a simple solution. Stop the EU from doing its cruel fishing on the Grand Banks or our continental shelf. They would have to buy our fish and eat crow!


beeman
said

Jason, Nancy and others: the seal hunt is NOT subsidized by our governments. Is is NOT only Newfoundlanders who prosecute this fishery. It IS, however, an important source of income for Atlantic Canadians who eke out a living from the land and the water by whatever means available to put food on the table for their families.


Larry L
said

This is yet another all-too-common example of a governing body that has forgotten its role which is to do for us, collectively, that which we cannot do as individuals.

I can count only a dozen or so things that in modern society only, or best, can be done through collective effort including national security, creation and maintenance of an effective and efficient infrastructure, health care, education, social/economic safety nets, a minimal body of law to protect the inividual and property, police and fire services, economic controls, public sanitation in all its forms, and a few more that don't immediately come to mind.

When governing bodies - from the national on down to the municipal - can do all these things efficiently and consistently then, and only then, should they even think of doing more.

As individuals, we are quite capable of deciding for ourselves whether to purchase a seal coat, or even whether or not to build a tree house for our kids.



Nancy
said

James, hunting foxes with dogs was banned in the UK in 2005.

By the way, this is not a total ban. The sealers have always claimed they kill seals "humanely", so what is the whining about?


Po
said

To all activists complaining about the method used for killing the seals... suggest an alternative! We're not all vegans and the hunt is sustainable. If you don't have a more humane way of killing them, then be quiet.

FYI Beef is killed in a very similar manner as these seals, a cuncussive blow to the head... I don't see the big difference other than the cuteness of teh seals.


CamD
said

Have you ever seen how pigs, chickens and cows are slaughttered?

Even Grean Peace has concluded that the sealhunt methods are human.

Do you thing a bunch of fisherman really want to walk out on rolling ice in the Atlantic to help them through the year and then screwup their livelyhood by getting caught performing inhumane methods?

Next time you're have your bacon and eggs, think about how easy your hypocritical life is.


James in Calgary
said

To all who say the seal hunt is cruel and that you are sickened by footage of the hunt I ask; Are you Vegans?

If you eat beef especially veal you must know that the baby cows are killed in the same way the adult seals are, with a hammer blow to the head. The job in the abattoir is called a Knocker because he knocks the animals on their heads.

My point is, if it is OK to kill cows this way why not seals?



Newfoundland Patriot
said

A person does not have to be vegetarian or vegan to oppose the hunt. For example, I could oppose it for Economic reasons.

The hunt costs upwards of 50 million dollars to conduct, and it only earns 5 million. So the seal hunt is a HUGE economic and financial loss to the nation.

And the good Canadians with real jobs end up paying for a small handful of extremist lobbyist sealers.

Economic. Nothing to do with anyone's diet. So all comment posts mentioning veganism or vegetarianism as a prerequisite for being against anything are now debunked.

You may no longer use that. Move on to your next attempt.



Ed
said

I agree with the Europeans; ban the seal hunt then watch the fish dissapear and watch seals die by the hundreds of thousands by starvation.
Let the Europeans and PETA put their money wher etheir mouth is : financailly support sealers so they dont HAVE to go out and earn a living this way.
PUT YOUR MONEY WHERE YOUR MOUTH IS EUROPE OTHERWISE SHUTUP AND CLEAN UP YOUR OWN BACKYARD FIRST.


A Real IT Manager From Calgary
said

I say Canada should crack down on imported EU wines as all those EU grapes being mercilessly stomped and squeezed must be extremely painful to them.

Seriously EU better look at themselves first before attacking Canada.


Bill
said

Nancy Travel and moved to europe


Mike
said

Dalia: Livestock are killed in more inhumane ways than we could ever do to seals. Why don't we ban the exports of cows, pigs, and chickens? Oh wait...riiiight...

Stupid hypocrites

Something else i've heard is if we don't restrict the popualtion of seals, that all the fish will be eaten to near extinction and really mess up the environment. Does anyone know if that's the case?


annoyed
said

Hey maybe we could just have Heather Mills come back again and protest, pet some more of the baby seals, that way there moms will just abandon them and they can all just starve to death!!!! That sounds way more humane. To each there own if someone wants to seal hunt, so be it there is nothing in the world that everyone is gonna agree on other than that there will always be someone trying to tell everyone else what to do! As if the world don't have enough dictatorships already!


Canadian Seal Hunter
said

SEALERS just don't want to kill certain things JUST BECAUSE THEY'RE CUTE!

I mean, Seal Hunters have dogs. And cats. And they could skin them. And eat cat meat pie. (yummy!) And there is a very good market in China for dog skin.

There's probably at least 6 million dogs & cats in Newfoundland!@ They are not going extinct!

But no, these bleeding heart Seal Killers don't care about seals because they are gray and fat and ugly.

All they care about is little puppies and kittens...Because they're cute!

These bleeding-heart Seal killers being against taking advantage of skinning & eating a great Canadian renewable resource of Canadian cats & Newfoundland dogs is sickening. It could put food on the table for poor desperate rural children!


Fish Minister
said

BAN the HUNT!

Wonderful!

Now the Seals can get back to saving the Cod fish.

Seals increase COD. Because seals eat cod's predators. Seals eat less than 2% cod, and it turned out Seals eat the things that FED on the cod, and the cod's eggs.

Seals were taking care of the squids, skates, sculpins, and other things that humans don't eat. 98% of seals diet.

Seals protected the cod, but seal hunters killed the seals, then cod's predators increased and destroyed huge amounts of cod. Seal killers danaged it for the whole planet.

Previously the DFO thought seals depleted the cod, but that was just an old wives tale by Newfoundland fisherman, the DFO did a study, and found that Seals did not ruin the cod. After seeing the results from their own DFO scientists. The DFO has now pulled that statement off of their website. It's gone.

Now even the Dept of Fisheries & Oceans acknowledges that what the sealers & fishermen said wasn't true.

And so Finally now seals can be allowed to protect the codfish again! Wonderful!

Thank you E. U. !


mike r
said

Canadians have a lot to say about the animal management practices of other nations, whether it's Norweigan whaling, or Asian shark finning, or the sale of exotic animal parts in Africa and Asia, practices that all participants can vigourously justify. It's just somewhat painful and embarrassing to have the scope of international condemnation turned our way.

This isn't about sustainability or economic viability, it's about our continued support and participation in a hunt that most of the civilized world finds disgusting and is determined to put a stop to.


N T
said

The sad part is, out of all the seals hunted, we only ever see the bad ones. There's 300 000+ seals hunted every year, and we see the 20 that were hunted and killed in a cruel fashion. What about the other 299 980 of them? If we focus on a very small few, it isn't fair to punish everyone for their actions....

Just my 2 pennies...


Dan from Surrey
said

I don't know if it is humane or not (but the ones clubbed and not shot it is not humane at all) but pictures and video of what happens gives the perception otherwise. People think of little white seals being clubbed and those pictures are the first thing many think of when they think of the Seal Hunt.

I believe they do not kill baby seals with white fur anymore but many are still clubbed and some are shot.

Personally i think it should be banned. But many would disagree but I think the seal hunt is in its twilight and when the ban comes in from the EU the death nail will be imminent unless the seal hunters can find another market. Would or could Russia , China and Norway pick up the slack?

People get wound up when it comes to animals these days, whether it is seals, the rabbits in various places in BC, The beavers in Surrey or the 10 kg Lobster named Dee Dee. People do not like to see animals hurt and with the seal hunt video is beamed all over the world so many can see....

I hate to see people losing jobs but with oil isn't there going to be more jobs and even better paying ones? I also know NFLD is sort of off the 'beaten path' but Williams and Harper should try to 'encourage' more investment in NFLD which would bring more jobs, hopefully.

This barbaric so called 'hunt' should be ended. It is not hunting but akin to shooting fish in a barrel. Hell shooting grouse takes more skill than this.



Nunavik
said

Seal Hunt Ban is the best news ever, especially for Native indigenous people!

The newfoundland seal hunt is not a Native hunt. it's an industrial hunt operated by caucasian newfoundland Sealers.

There are no indigenous newfoundland natives in Newfoundland today. Because some of the forefathers of current Newfoundland Seal hunters killed them.

The Beothuk indians were the native people of Newfoundland. They were here before any caucasians. Foreign Sailors came to Canada and took the native's fish, killed the walrus, killed the whales, and killed the newfoundland wolf. They are all extinct.

The ancestors of today's Canadian seal clubbers made the Beothuk into slaves, and when they revolted, they killed them. The last newfoundland native Beothuk died in 1829. Her name was Nancy Shanawhdit.

Sealers & Fishermen killed animals, plus, an entire race of native people. The original native Beothuk people of newfoundland are completely gone.

Today they continue to do it. The sealers & fisherment did it to the cod. And were working on the seals.

Now native people can get back to their own for food, not for cash, wealthy ladies fashion accessories, and sealer greed.

Great that Newfoundland sealers have been stopped!


Bob
said

If the EU carries through with their ban then we should ban all wines from the EU as well as pate from France.


buffalojump
said

green anarchists rule the market based on propaganda. They love natures vicious way of animals killing each other because it's natural.They love animals starving when overpopulated because it's natural.

Rational thinking at it's best.


The Donald
said

James is 100% correct. The Europeans are total hypocrites for even thinking of banning seal products. At least the hunt prevents over-population.


Saint John
said

Since the Seal Hunt is a Financial flop for sealers and canada, it's good that it will be shut down.

The price of a seal pelt right now, from Carino is barely only 33 dollars. Actually it's less because that's only for the perfect ones, nothings perfect.

So the Total Allowable Catch of seals is 275,000. So 33 dollars times 275 thousand equals only 9 million dollars, but wait...thats not income, there's fuel costs, diesel, provisions, the 50 to 100,000 dollar sealing boat, safety vests, epirbs, food, guns, ammunition, the pelt chemicals, hmm. Expenses are a lot.. 50%. So the Seal hunt actually only brings in 5 million in 2008.

But that needs divided over 6,000 people, there are 6 thousand sealers confirmed by the DFO.

Ok, so each sealer for all of this long voyages, icy wind, life threatening work, ice bergs, boat damage, etc earns...5 mil divided across 6000 sealers earns an Annual Salary of...: 833 bucks (avg).

Hmm. 833 bucks annual salary? If we looked at what that would be like if it were a regular job, over a year, that'd be 69 bucks a month. 17 bucks a week, or in other words, if it were a real job, over a year, Seal Hunting would make 43 cents an hour.

Wow! Even as a janitor one could make 10 dollars an hour.

No wonder sealers want to fight so hard to keep doing this, they will be rich some day! Hey! maybe after another 500 years! John Cabot will be proud.

Oh, and this seal hunt earns only that 5 million for Canada, but it costs 24 million just for the Coast Guard to break the ice so they can get to where the seals are.

Excellent! 0.43 cents an hour, and a financial loss to everyone in Canada as well!

No wonder Canadian sealers want to fight so hard to keep it going!


CWS
said

How many European soldiers do we see on the front lines of Afghanistan? Lets ban Europeans from visiting Canada!!.


Jim
said

""traditions" like cannibalism "

Wow, what culture do you come from that Cannibalism was a tradition?


Marc
said

The supporters of this ban better be vegetarians. I worked in a beef slaughterhouse and the seal killing appear way more humane than what we do to the cows. Wake up people. All animals killed as food is inhumane. Go cry at the back of the farmers. It is closer for most Canadians than the ice banks of NFLD.


Jim
said

@James

While I agree with your basic premis, you really got some facts wrong:
"the British chase foxes and deer with hounds until the animal is exhausted, followed by the ceremony of "blooding" the hunters. This is the ultimate in hypocrisy!"

First, the UK is not EU. Second, the fox hunt was outlawed as being cruel.


Paul on Vancouver Island
said

It's time we treat other species the same way we expect to be treated ourselves.

We have to get off our pedestals and come down to earth. HUMANS ARE JUST ANOTHER ANIMAL SPECIES.

All species are unique, as is the human animal, and we all feel pain. We are not unique in feeling pain. We must stop this cruelty upon other species.

It's not easy to change our ways, but it can be done. I've moved to being a vegetarian and use products not tested on other animal species.


david
said

I think it would be informative if somebody in the media or Canadian government shows the world how animals such as horses, pigs, cows, etc. are killed in Europe. To hell with Europe, lets focus on Asia.


Al Ottawa
said

The seal population is continuing to grow very quickly. If it weren't for the annual hunt, their number would be way higher. As it is, the number seals is threatening the remaining fish populations. What happens when there are so many seals and most of the fish are gone? Starvation.

Many in the media, and most environmentalist, keep showing the baby seals/the white coat seals being killed, but that doesn't happen anymore. They keep showing old videos falsely implying that is what's happening nowdays. So all the ignorant people watching TV suck it all in - after all, if it's on TV it must be true, right?!


Roger T
said

YES, it's the proper thing to do BOYCOTT our products which is SO INHUMANE. Our political leaders can't go on rants about animal cruelty and rights while our country is killing these animals in such cruel and inhumane ways. Boycott all seal meat products.

Perhaps, our political leaders should learn from this and other situations in the future "THINK BEFORE YOU SPEAK" about other countries rights and abuses!


RRO
said

I am really happy to see the large majority of posts seems to be focused on common sense rather then uneducated emotion. DD and James both made excellent points.

The seal hunt is a part of our history as much as fox hunting, bull fighting or many other sports in Europe.

Perfect example of these fringe animal rights groups pushing their agenda on everyone else and not thinking of their impact on people.


John Timmermans
said

The sealhunt is a business just like the farmer feeds cattle for human consumptian while the seal is hunted for pelts.I would blame our governments for not laying charges for the European protesters that keep coming back year after year. Loyola Hearn Min,of fisheries says these people can be within 10 meters of fishing boats to observe while in fact they are protesting.They make videoes and take them back to Holland to show them on TV. I pleaded Williams to go with Harper to Europe a while back discussing with European leaders the seal problem but he stayed home doing nothing to help the NFlanders with their seal hunt problems. Writers like Dalia & Nancy don't understand this business they are only making a nuisance of themself, and should have their brains examed.


DD
said

The utter ignorance of some here is disturbing. Calling the seal hunt a massacre? Come on. What do you think happens every day in slaughterhouses around the world?

Seal meat DOES NOT contain mercury. That's one of the advantages of getting Omega 3 oil from seals. They are too young to have absorbed enough and are not inland mammals to start with. The hunt is economically viable. It brings in tens of millions every year to those that really need it. And no...not all fisherman "make good money" or use the hunt as a "second job."

What's shameful is the complete lack of knowledge some of you armchair quarterbacks exhibit. The hunt is humane, sustainable and viable.

Animal rights groups love to hit hard on the hunt because (they have admitted) it is a cash cow for them. These organizations make more off the hunt than they put into protesting it. And they lie.

They lie. They lie. They lie. Even today, they use the whitecoat on their websites when the whitecoat hasn't been hunted in over TWENTY YEARS!!!!!

Stop drinking the animal rights groups' Kool-aid and educate yourselves.

Oh...and unless you are vegans, you have NO RIGHT to whine about the hunt. Go visit a slaughterhouse and learn that compared to that, the seal hunt is humane.


Shawn
said

The EU seal ban is a complete sham.

Mr. Dimas started his crusade against seal products based on an unverified and non-peer-reviewed study that an anti-sealing group claimed showed "42% of seals" were being skinned alive. They looked at a total of 76 animals for that study.

The EU's own agency - the European Food Safety Authority (EFSA) - wrote in its December 2007 report that "it is incorrect to conclude that 42% of the seals in the sample were skinned alive."

EFSA also added that "it is not appropriate to
extrapolate from a small sample of 76 skulls collected in the Gulf of St. Lawrence over two days to all the animals killed during the entire hunt,
which is conducted over several weeks,
both in the Gulf and on the Front off Newfoundland and Labrador."

That means that the EU shouldn't even be considering a ban right now and that Mr. Dimas' personal biases are guiding the EU's process - not science or the truth.

While folks may not like the seal hunt, policy and trade decisions should be based on verifiable science and not emotional nonesense.

Besides, I don't see Mr. Dimas going after EU countries' hunts for a million deer, or the UK fox hunt, or the millions of other animals he doesn't seem to have a problem killing.


Rob
said

Bravo!!!
If these losers want work, move to Alberta, there is plenty of work there. People have to migrate sometimes according to their needs.

Ban the Seal hunt altogether!


Jim
said

If Europe made anything we wanted I suggest we ban that in retaliation.


Andre
said

Hey Ed,
Remind me again why the Europeans or anyone should compensate the sealers now that their product is no longer in demand? Are you helping out the poor people who used to manufacture horse-drawn buggies and are now out of business? I didn't think so.
Maybe Newfoudland should start sharing its oil revenue with other Canadians, just like Canada has financially supported Newfoundland since 1949.
If not, then let this dying industry of seal hunting disappear. Canada's image in the world will be better for it.



Gary
said

I say screw the EU..Many of their member nations have all but killed our fish industry because of their over fishing our waters and what did they do about it...I seem to remember a fish war in our not to late history..Animals have and will continue to provide us not only food and clothing but medicine...perfumes which are a big European export..the list is endless..Most of these greenpeace types are less concerned about the state of the enviroment or our wildlife but rather their fiscal profits..I've seen them recruiting junkies off the street to go door to door for them for donation so I say we ban them


Kevin Aubie
said

Finally we can hopefully put this shame on our country behinds us.

To DD

You don't have to be a vegan to oppose animal cruelty. To imply you do is downright ridiculous.


Mike vdB
said

So...lets say the ban goes through.

The seal hunt dwindles but will not totally end because the EU only makes up 1/3 of the market. Many of these communities that rely on these hunts are full of proud people that want to support their families on something other then govt assistance. Most are also fishermen but not all. Besides, if the seals eat all your fish what is the point of being a fisherman? So that industry goes down the tubes.

What is next? Support the migration of whole communities to larger centers? That creates a whole bunch of problems in itself and in a time we are trying to assert our soveriengty (sp?) in the North..do you think that is feaseable?

I think before people pick and choose the things they want to believe, they should spend time in these communities and talk to the people at the center of it all. Maybe even live there for a year.

Oh wait...how feaseable is that? It is just easier to condemn and think you are doing the world a favour.


Timber
said

DD, educate yourself before tellin everyone else to. 7 million - where did you get that figure, the DFO hasn't released their population study this year, but it's closer to 5.5 million, when it was once 25 million - hardly over populated. A/R groups get new footage every year & white coat killing is now illegal 12 day olds are fair game, as soon as their coats start to molt, in 2007 video footage showed sealers disregarding the law killing some white coats anyway. Its cruel & inhumane - all for FUR not for FOOD, it's the biggest waste of taxpayers money & effects the Canadian relations world wide & our economy, tourists thinking we are all a bunch of yahoo barbarians. How much does seafood boycotts cost Canadians. This doomsday scenario the seals would all starve if the hunt stopped is so far off base, the seal hunt DID STOP for almost 10 years, gee what happened? Why do we tax payers have to pay for these butchers to get their kicks cause sealing aint worth it financially. STOP OVERFISHING, STOP OTHER COUNTRIES FROM FISHING IN OUR WATERS & STOP THE SLAUGHTER


Keith, Halifax
said

It is about time the EU is getting around to this. The seal hunt is the most heinous and cruel animal slaughter in the world and it is causing great damage to Canada’s image. Whether they are clubbed or wounded from someone shooting them from a moving boat, far too many seals suffer a drawn-out, agonizing death.

The industry is not even close to being sustainable as the processing plants, marketing and the inflated price of the pelts all add up to huge subsidies. Throw in the cost of policing, search and rescue and this puny industry is costing Canada dearly. It is total idiocy we allow it go on.

There were are lot more seals and fish before Europeans settled the continent so you can’t blame the seals for the decline in fish stocks but even if that were the case it would be better to let the fishing industry die then allow such inhumanity to continue.



MartinofNS
said

Seals can get hunted like any other animal, for food or for fur otherwise. We haven't stopped the cow hunt, or pig hunt, or duck hunt, or deer hunt...etc...etc.. We're human, we're on top of the food chain, stop crying about it.
By the way, seals are nasty little critters, they bite, Paul McCartney knows this first hand...


Me
said

Excellent call!!
I think everyone should jump on this boat



Robin the Hood
said

In order to stop the slaughter of other more endangered wild animals such as tigers and whales - which is morally reprehensible - the seal hunt will also have to end. Its time to let nature govern itself and allow it to continue providing for us all. Wild Animal products has no place in our society. Its time for the fisherman to call it quits and seek other more promising employment opportunities.



Joe from Ottawa
said

First and foremost, it is interesting that the Dutch and Belgians have consistently condemned the seal hunt, but refuse to look internally at their own fur trades. In particular, these two countries are leading exporters of mink fur, and are the home of several mink farms, which have been widely condemned by animal rights activists.

If, and when this is dealt with at a WTO Dispute Settlement, Canada has a solid case against the EU. The way in which seals are killed is no more repugnant than what happens daily at a slaughter house. Furthermore, with the exception of a widely criticized and suspect study by IFAW, most studies have indicated that the method of killing a seal (using a hakapik) is humane, killing the seal with seconds. Many trade experts agree that, with the above being the case, seal furs will likely be considered by the WTO to be a "like product" (WTO terms) and given the same opportunities as any animal product killed in a humane manner. Whether the EU will follow the ruling is another story.

Finally, if the seal hunt is so repugnant to European consumers that their government must step in, why is it that seal fur pelts are a highly sought after product, selling in record numbers and at a record price in the EU. If Europeans are so disgusted with the hunt, let them protest by refusing to purchase the product. Until then, the government should stay out.


Mo
said

Finally. I've been waiting for this for a long time.. It's time to change the way Canada acts with animals..


FishyDon
said

As a member of one of the largest Cod schools in the North Atlantic, I am very much in favour of the annual seal hunt. The more of these creatures that are killed off, the better it is for my fellow cods since it keeps them from being eaten. During the last ban on hunting, many members of my family got eaten by these animalistic seals. So keep your carnivorous land animals out of the ocean and on human feet where they belong.


RRO
said

Jim, you got your facts wrong. The United Kingdom is a member of the European Union, the United Kingdom does not use the Euro but other than that they are a full member of the European Union.

Further, you may be correct about the fox hunt but that does not address the bull fighting or other extremely cruel practices in Europe.

The Europeans love to preach but rarely live up to there end of the bargan.


erleen
said

This ban is long overdue. This will help address the real issue which is unemployment for sealers. Our politicians throw a bandaid by subsidizing millions to this annual hunt and using it to prop up their patriotism to the region. More than half of Canadians oppose the seal hunt and its a shame that we had to look to another country to put forward legislation to represent the majority of our country. Thank you EU!!!


JPC
said

The annual seal harvest is sustainable from all aspects, period. PROTECT THE SEAL HUNT!


Ally
said

People are so dramatic, attacking all those against the seal hunt because they might eat meat. Just because some cows and pigs are killed inhumanely that doesn't mean its acceptable. Animals should be killed quickly with the least possible level of pain. 2 wrongs don't make a right! From what I understand all the EU is saying is stop the inhumane practices, they are not suggesting banning the hunt altogether. Just ban all clubbing and make it illegal to skin an animal if it is still alive. I'm shocked that this hasn't been done already. I have read studies that prove seals were still alive while they were skinned so don't tell me that it doesn't happen. If some areas cannot be hunted with rifles then don't hunt there! Seems pretty simple to me. I think the EU is being very fair by simply asking to end the small portion of the hunt that is still inhumane.


Joe - Vancouver
said

The hunt is just a gov't subsidy for an area that has no other employment - ban it.

As for the seals depleting the fish stocks...wait a minute....didn't we do that with over fishing???


John D in Sask.
said

I'm not particularly sure what right Mr. Hearn believes he has in telling other sovereign nations what laws they can or cannot pass; would he let the EU tell him what laws to pass in Canada?

More importantly, however, why is everyone so worried over a proposed ban on seal products from countries that "practice cruel hunting methods." If Canadian seal hunters and exporters are practicing the humane methods that they and Mr. Hearn so vehemently insist they practice, then there should be nothing to worry about.


Rob
said

It is utterly ridiculous to claim that Newfoundlanders shouldn't be able to hunt seal simply because they are not native. Their forefathers hunted seal in Europe ! Seal is still being hunted in Nordic countries !


Tony
said

Anyone who opposes the seal hunt and isn't a vegan is a hypocrite. No animal slaughter is nice to look at but humans have always done it for food and clothing. Do you wear leather? Eat chicken?

The seal hunt is more humane than most other animal slaughter, difference is they are done behind closed doors and chickens and cows aren't as cute. At least the seal got some time in the wild.

Seal hunt rhetoric is just an easy fundraiser for animal rights groups.


Chris
said

I hope all of the 27-members of the EU and the European Parliament are vegan and plan to put a ban on all anamils being killed. Hypocrisy at its best!!!


George
said

I find the EU hypocritical. I guess they would have credibility if they could regulate themselves. I find bull fighting extremely inhumane and pointless. Lets be consistent. The EU should clean up their own backyard before passing judgement on others.


Gael Maxwell
said

If we ban the seal hunt we may as well put a stop to the hunting and fishing of all animals. I for one being take pride is passing on the heritage of our country and forefathers and mothers have passed onto us. I have had this debate with people before and is it more inhumane breaking a trouts neck after you've caught it? Or going out and hunting game for the table and shooting them? It's part of our heritage, leave the lads alone and let them hunt the seal. They are not wasting the meat and or the hide.


Skinner
said

Hey, here's a thought, while we are getting rid of the seal hunt, let's outlaw fox hunting as well. For those of you animal rights advocates, many countries in the world still practice this, and unlike the seal hunt, the fox hunt is a SPORT!!!That means the fox is hunted and nothing is produced from the remains except a trophy. Now that is sick.


Mike Webster
said

It's amazing how many people have fallen for the lies and misinformation of the animal rights extremists. Such people never deal in facts. Instead their entire argument is based on gross exaggerations, misleading information and outright falsehoods. Anyone who listens to their garbage should read the book "The Politically Incorrect Guide To Hunting". It would be a real eye opener but unfortunately, these "activists" refuse to let the facts get in the way of their opinions.

The seal hunt isn't cruel or barbaric and it in no way endangers the seal population. Human beings, whether some people want to admit it or not, are part of nature. We're not apart from nature and out of the food chain, we're right at the top of it. Human beings are, as someone else observed, omnivoirs. We eat meat. We hunt. We keep and slaughter cattle. We fish. Sealing is no different. If we didn't keep the seal population in check, it would explode. Just look what they did to the Atlantic fishery last time we stopped the hunt. The population exploded and they devoured every fish they could get.


Ian from N.B.
said

Paul on Vancouver Island:"It's time we treat other species the same way we expect to be treated ourselves.

We have to get off our pedestals and come down to earth. HUMANS ARE JUST ANOTHER ANIMAL SPECIES."

I don't go around killing crocodiles, but if I got near one it would probably try and kill me. So by your logic I should kill the Crocodile first. It treat's me as it's next meal so I should return the favour. Same goes with lions, bears, sharks, pirahana, etc.

The hunt is sustainable, in all probability there will be even more seals come next years hunt than there were this year. At this rate the only way to start turning the seal population the other way is if we raised the hunt cap to 2 Million or something. I'm no expert, but it's common sense, if the seal population is greater than their food source, then starvation will begin. Is that what you want?

You activists need to choose, fast or slow?


JD in Alberta
said

So let’s say we do ban the seal hunt. I believe the seal hunters should be provided compensation from the EU and its citizens. So here’s what we do. Every tourist from the EU pays a $25 for entering and $25 exiting Canada. Any fishing boats from the EU that wants to fish in Canadian waters have to pay a daily levy of 20,000, per day. All products coming in from the EU is subject to a 50% duty. Ban all corporations from the EU to buy shares in Canadian companies. And apply additional taxes to all EU corporations operating in Canada already.

It’s time Canadians started standing up and defending each other, regardless of what region of the country we are from. Why should a foreign government dictate to us what is right and what is wrong? If we let them pressure to do this what will be next???? Maybe the next time they will want us to stop the brutal slaughter of harvesting sap from maple trees.



Tammy
said

Coming from a concerned Canadian, I am so glad to hear that someone in a parliamentary position is finally speaking up for our seals. It's too bad that it has to come all the way from Europe, but at least they're there. Now, it would just be nice if our Canadian government would have some **** to do something about it. And no, the hunting practices are not humane!
BTW, if anyone's thinking about harping on me, don't...I am a V and I do help human causes as well, so let's not judge one another for writing comments and having opinions. Have a nice day!


Todd
said

It would be interesting to see if the EU takes a similar approach to Japan and Norway's whaling practice?


Linda in Vancouver
said

This is a sustainable harvest of a species that in increasing in its numbers.It should be regulated,and the methods made as humane as possible.Other than that,the EU really has no business seeking sanctions of any kind.
Cows,chickens,pigs,and every other animal we humans consume will be next on the hit list of aimals in need of our protection.They are, after all,cute to someone,or at least to each other.
Of course,if the EU has no problem with us imposing tariffs on the products they sell to Canada to pay the incomes lost by the sealers,it might get them a place at the discussion table when future harvests are discussed.
Yes.They are cute.But so are a lot of other creatures consumed by humans.And seals,in no way are and endangered species Maybe these bleeding hearts in the EU should quit their whining,get off their asses,and go do their share of the work in Afghanistan.They would be more credible if they cared as much about our men and women there as they do about an increasing population of seals.


Nancy
said

Wow! I'm sure the EU is shaking in their boots with Hearn's threats. There is absolutely nothing Hearn, Taylor, Danny or Harper can do about this. Europeans do whatever they want in their territory and politicians there have to satisfy their constituents, not Canadian sealers.
Most Canadians want the seal hunt to stop, however politicians here do what will buy them a seat at the next election. Harper can't afford to lose any seats and Hearn can't commit political suicide by stopping the seal hunt.

History is repeating itself: the only reason Canada stopped ripping nursing whitecoats from their mothers and bludgeoning them to death in the '80s was because of an international outcry, not out of the goodness of our own hearts. We haven't learned anything- we still need other people to tell us to stop our barbaric ways. Shame!




Doug
said

Dalia,
Videos you watch are probably from many years ago. Do you know how a cow is slaughtered, a large spike on a machine is driven through its brain. Ever had veal? Thats even worse. Sealers are picked on as they are not a huge industry such as the beef industry, which has the money, and political backing to move forward without complication.



Back to you
said

Okay, Canada will stop killing little seals when France stop's force-feeding geese for pate, Japan stop's killing whales, the EU stops bottom trawling and the rest of the world sits down to a protocol on sustainable living for the planet.



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