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Date: Tue. Jul. 15 2008 5:46 PM ET
A U.S. soldier who fled to Canada because he refused to serve in Iraq has been deported, and now faces a possible court martial.
Robin Long crossed the border into Canada in 2005. Last October, he was arrested in Nelson, B.C., on a Canada-wide warrant.
He called military operations in Iraq "an illegal war of aggression."
On Monday, Federal Court of Canada Justice Anne Mactavish said Long did not provide enough convincing evidence that he will face irreparable harm if he's sent back to the United States.
She noted that the percentage of American military deserters prosecuted in the U.S. has increased since 2002. However, she said the vast majority were not prosecuted, let alone jailed for desertion.
Between 2002 and 2006, Mactavish said about 94 per cent of U.S. deserters only received "a less than honourable discharge from the military."
Long, 25, had argued that he would be "singled out for harsh treatment by the Americans because of the publicity associated with his case."
But the judge ruled that Long failed to provide clear evidence in support of his argument.
Following the ruling, the chairman of the Vancouver War Resisters' Support Campaign said he believed Long's deportation would be the first time an army deserter has been forced out of Canada.
Bob Ages said Long will likely be returned to Fort Knox.
"We will be caucusing, trying to figure out what we can do,'' said Ages.
Long is one of several U.S. army deserters who claimed refugee status in Canada but none have yet been successful.
With files from The Canadian Press
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I applaud the budget, even though Health Care and education may stay unscathed. Sadly this cannot last and I worry to later this year where cuts will become enviable. If anything, this provides the Wildrose Alliance plenty of ammo when an election is called.


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Will
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Fairness
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Merle Terlesky
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Its a volunteer army and he volunteered end of story.
Gregory Boudreau
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Bill
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stick from the bus
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I wish you all the best GI Joe and may the force be with you.
Rod
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Mark in Ottawa
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don't let the door hit you on the way out...
IT manager in Toronto
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Don't want to soldier, don't join the army.
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Lisa
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Gunner Joe
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If you volunteer to put on a uniform, you should have accepted all that goes with it.
He's very lucky he won't face a firing squad, but he will have to live with his decision. Hopefully, he will remember the faces of his fellow soldiers, who he let down.
Sadia
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Shawn
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When you put the uniform on, regardless of whether it is a militray, ploice, etc, you know the risks and the expectations.
This guy knew he could be sent to war, but he choose to do it anyway.
Let's hurry up and get these guys back to where they belong. they made a voluntary commitment to serve and now they need to be held accountable.
GSF
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Colin
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Norm
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You say they should have a choice as to whether or not they want to fight in Iraq. They do, it's called enlisting or not enlisting. These people chose to enlist during a time when the US military is actively engaged in combat missions around the world. Did they actually think they would not be sent to fight?
Send them all home, they knew what they were getting into.
Rod
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Meg
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Canuck in WA state
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However, if he truely wanted to protest the war, he should simply have refused deployment and accepted the consequences.
This was and is a bad war, a folly along the lines of Vietnam. The US should be out of Iraq; the sooner the better. It will probably have more consequences than leaving Vietnam did, but it wasn't the end of the world then and it isn't now.
The US did something I woudn't have believed. They managed to kill as many Iraqis as Sadam did. Well done.
The embarassment can't be over to soon. That embarassment is of course GWB. An idiot of mass destruction.
And no I am not a leftie, I am a big Harper fan.
Chris former soldier
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Doug BC
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And yes,let's get on to immigration reform so we can get rid of the people like those who blew up an Air India passenger plane years ago.
We really have enough problems of Canadian origin.The last thing we need are problems imported from other countries.Since these deserters no longer face a firing squad,I applaud this as the right decision.Canada is not well served by being a haven for people who can't obey the laws of their homeland.
Joseph
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Don Ward
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Steven G.
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I get a little nervous that someone wants me to welcome them to join my country because they decided no to honour an obligation they made in their country !! How does that strengthen us as a country? We add one more citizen with a convenient sense of honouring their word.
Ian
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First, this man is not a "child" by any definition. The article states his age as 25 today, so when he came here in 2005 he would have been 22. That's a legal adult in every jurisdiction in Canada and the United States.
Second, having a change of heart is fine, so long as you have the fortitude to stand up and face the consequences of your decision like a man, not run away to another country and then cry "refugee!"
RCR
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michael
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Todd
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It's an old soldier's expression and underlies the committment made by soldiers that goes beyond other types of "jobs". There are benefits and responsibilities that go with the armed forces and you can't have one without the other. Sorry, but he needs to 'man-up' on this one.
I understand Robin was living with his partner and child in Nelson. I'd love to live in Nelson too (a beautiful town), but I can't get a job there. It would seem that draft dodgers and deserters have an affinity for the prettiest parts of Canada. Are they immigrants? Did they go through the proper channels? He needs to go home and face the consequences of his actions and can come to Canada through the proper channels and not jump the line of legitimate refugees.
Bob
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Your comments about the war may be true but he was not drafted. He knew what he was getting into in the beginning.
I hope the coward is on his way back home.
Charley-Rose
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Veteran taxpayer
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Glen
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Mark Merchant
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I will gladly take his or any other deserters place in the US Army.
Unconditional service??
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Really? No matter what your government may ask you to do, once you volunteer for the army you must check your conscience and your humanity and follow any order, and fight any war? Really?!?!?
Hmmm..... No wonder, then, that with such unquestioning "patriotism" that a handful of Nazis were able to control an entire nation.
PI MAX
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Do you want to live the kind of life they are living? If you believe the US and coalition forces are doing the wrong thing, than how come you are still living in these countries like the US, Canada, England, and many other countries?
It is time to open up your eyes, 'cause Europe will be in the coming years facing realtime changes coming into effect, which will change the way these people live and think. A lot of Dutch citizens are immigrating to countries like for instance Australia, the Island of Curacao, Aruba, Bonaire, St Marten, Saba, Statia and The US.
Let us not waste our time with comments which will not help us in solving current problems worldwide, 'cause we are just busy contributing to an unknown future and possibly turning or world into an unsecure environment.
Let us be careful and stand by their (Coalition forces)side in order to at least guarantee a peaceful future for our kids!
Or do you believe that supporting the Hamas, Al Qaida and others will provide a secure future?
Shawn
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You are obviously someone who has never donned the uniform of your country otherwise you might understand the 'vile comments; that people like myself have made.
Well, I did and yes I was prepared to do my duty for my country.
A few things happen when a person decides to become a soldier. First you quickly understand that while you have the right to Freedom of Expression, etc, as a soldier your opinion is irrevlant to completeing the task that you have been ordered to do and as such you don't say it. You do the job and keep your mouth shut.
The issue here is not that a soldier spoke out against the war. Honestly, I understand why Long doesn't want to go back and no I wouldn't want to either. I am not for killng people and don't feel the US should have invaded. The UN should have stepped up a long time ago a forced Iraq to complie with the resolutions, but that is another story.
Bottom line, 9/11 happened 7 years ago which would have made Long 17 or 18. He joined the military voluntary knowing that he would likely be sent to war. Whe you enlist, whether there is a war on or not, you give yourself your country to do with what they see fit.
He made his chose and should deal with the conseqences like a honourable person.
It is hard for the average person to understand the ways of the military unless they have been there. I challenge you to put on the unform to get a more well-rounded view.
You have the 'Right to Free Speech' but...did you truly earn it.
A Retired Soldier
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Vince M
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When you become a professional soldier you promise (not "maybe" or "it depends" or "if I feel like it") to do your duty when called on. The oath is pretty damn specific.
When someone runs from their committment like this I don't want to be relying on them for my life in a dangerous scenario.
I don't actually want to be relying on them for anything.
Doug BC
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I believe a man is only as good as his word.If he breaks a solemn oath,my ability to trust him is gone.
And finally,there are some overly crtical of the use of the word coward.While I concede the term is harsh,I also think that he could have demonstrated bravery without going off to war,but by refusing,and staying home to fight for the principles he does believe in.Defend your country and it's principles within the context of your own beliefs.No where is that more possible than in the US justice system.In spite of G.W.Bush.
But deserting,and running off to a foreign country should never be an appropriate option.
And finally,I do not think the USA is asking for extradition in this case.And there is no reason to believe he will be treated overly harshly.They don't execute deserters they way they used to.He will likely not even get jail time,and is probably going to be better off by facing the music back home and putting this behind him.
Calgarian
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Luke
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I call bull
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Yes, we do sign on to DEFEND OUR NATION, BUT WE DIDN'T SIGN ON to be used for someone's ego or business relationship or someone's hunger for power. IRAQ was NEVER a threat to the U.S., that is the real issue of this deserter people.
You CANNOT compare Iraq to World War 1 or World War 2. And besides those people fought thinking that there will be no more wars after people see the horror of the war they just fought. IT'S SAD HOW WRONG THEY WERE.
Roger T
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WarOfLiesBackTheIraqResisters
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No soldier, even if they were not conscripted, should be forced to fight in this war.
These resisters should not be vilified or prosecuted for refusing to participate in a war predicated on the lies of the Bush adminstration.
Paul
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However, having said that, if you make a decision that comes with consequences, face them and move on rather than running.
R. Lowe
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Those who join up know the risks involved, and that THEY may be required to go into active service.
If an enlisted soldier is truly against what his government is asking him/her to do, they can easily become a conscientious objector, and take the military consequences for that position. (remember Muhammad Ali?)
And if so many serving soldiers were to take such LEGAL action, where would the American war effort be, now?
These SOLDIERS are merely trying to avoid active service, and should be immediately returned to the United States of America, to face a uniform court of military justice for their actions
JP
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Shame of Canadian Politicans-
They have never been in a position like this young man. SHAME
Rob from the Peg
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michael
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Kim Jerome
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adventure. Which we all know is a huge crock. These kids and I call them kids under 30 at least have really no educated clue as to the hell they are signing up for. That is why they desert. Of course they are fearful once they figure out they are stuck. Some cope and some do not. In my opinion it makes them human. Give the kid a break and some understanding. Let him stay until some agreement is reached for a dihonorable discharge. Have you never erred in judgement?
graham
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"If it takes force to impose your ideas on your fellow man, there is something wrong with your ideas. If you are willing to use force to impose your ideas on your fellow man, there is something wrong with you."
EX RCR
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This guy should be deported no question.
He signed on the dotted line and then chickened out and ran to Canada because he knew there are so many bleeding hearts here to cry for him.
No sympathy from this ex soldier
Laurel
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John
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I am physically revolted by the heartless chest-thumping comments on the board.
In the sixties and seventies Canada opened its doors to draft dodgers and deserters, and I got to meet a fair number of them. There was not a coward among them, and they honoured Canada with their presence. It took a lot of guts and integrity to do the right thing by turning their backs on America as it set hootches and children ablaze with indifference.
We should always strive to offer people an avenue of peace and an alternative to marching lock-step off to a stupid war.
I deeply regret this decision, and find that more and more I am ashamed of my fellow citizens who have the capacity to post such thoughtless, hurtful and deplorable comments.
How dare you! What do you know from your little lives and your little keyboards and your pompous, pampered rear-ends. Why would you not congratulate the courage of these men and women and embrace the idea of avoiding participation in an unjust war that is only spreading misery and suffering?
EX RCR
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He joined knowing he could go to war,whether its right or wrong doesn't matter.
Get them out of here.
Marlin
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It would be far more honorable to object and serve your sentence than to run away.
Life is about choices and this individual seems to have a history of making poor ones.
Bob
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Anthony
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I signed and I knew what it meant.
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See the dotted line, next time don't sign it. Hope the bus is comfy.
Merc
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Mike Webster
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B.A.Man
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you can't change your mind half way a roller ride coaster either after you find you are not man enough to live up to your side of the deal,
besides that, numb nuts you joined the US army not the Swiss. What did you expect
canuck in WA state
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He did not desert because the US was wrong to invade Iraq.
(Which I think the US have handled as poorly as could be imagined. I was glad to see Sadam gone, but the rest of it was jokable). He deserted because he did not want to fight. He could have done so and done the honourable thing, which was refuse to go to war as a conscientious objector, even once he had enlisted. Many had the guts to do this in the Vietnam War which many were forced to serve against there will.
IT Manager in Calgary
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Bill, "IT manager in Toronto" (yet another person on here who thinks they are insulting me by imitating my nickname, when in actuality, you are practicing the highest form of flattery while at the same time making yourself look like an unoriginal buffoon), and the like, I honestly wonder if any of you would have the cajones to stand up for your convictions the way he did. I'm guessing not, since you need to have even your opinions spoon fed to you by Harper.
When he signed up for the military, he probably didn't know that he would have to fight an illegal war started by a right wing tyrant with a goal of world oil domination.
Good for you, Mr. Long!
Roadrobber
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antiwar
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Robin Long had made a right decison. He is a real hero!
Marg
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This American citizen did not volunteer, he had to serve his time as an 18 yr old able bodied man and has decided war in Iraq is stupid. So be it, face up to his convictions and leave the forces then. Why should we harbour him here?
I agree with sending him home, but I also disagree with the many posters who say he volunteered to serve. That is the case in Canada not in the US.
Max
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When you sign up, voluntarily, to represent your sacred country in a military conflict, you're EXPECTED to follow through. It's a vitally important, entirely fundamental concept.
Now, as a volunteer soldier, your personal political views aren't cared for! You don't get to sit on the sidelines, on your fellow citizens' tax dollars, and contemplate whether the war you're called to serve in is a good fit for you or not. You signed up. Get your butt in there!
Thank goodness selfish, left-wing hippies (a modern-day plague)didn't exist until the latter half of the 20th century.
He was called upon to carry out the military wishes of his COUNTRY and its citizens, not the private wants of George Bush. Drop the political argument. The U.S. government (not just the President) voted to go into Irag.
If you're fond of non-violent protesting, don't sign up with Uncle Sam.
Your position that he should be patted on the back isn't at all "intellectual."
Red X
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The Iraq rational for invading was WMDs which they did not find. Now that they are there the Americans will never leave as long as there is OIL in them countries...
Chris V
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BRIAND
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GM
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He will not be sent to Iraq against his will but he must face the music.
US military deserters should not be allowed to use Canada as a "get out of jail free" card.
NW
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If you don't want to fight for the so-called useless war, then don't goin the forces.
It's your job and you have to obey the orders.