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Date: Sat. Jun. 14 2008 11:07 PM ET
Canadian soldiers are helping to catch hundreds of Taliban fighters who escaped from an Afghan prison, but a top general says the setback may still lead to problems for troops in the field.
Gen. Denis Thompson, the Canadian commandeer in Afghanistan, said local authorities are taking charge of hunting down the fugitives, while Canadian soldiers provide them with intelligence.
He said the prison break could have a long-term impact on Canada's mission in Afghanistan, with hundreds of militants now back in play.
"Eventually it may impact us in the field," he told reporters in Kandahar City.
The city's prison came under attack on Friday, when insurgents attacked with rockets, suicide bombers and an explosives-laden truck. Munir Mungle, Afghanistan's interior minister, said the prison had held 1,005 prisoners -- including 398 Taliban. It's believed most of them escaped.
On Saturday, Mungle said six Taliban believed to be escapees had been recaptured. Others are still on the loose after using fruit orchards near Sarposa Prison as hiding areas.
Nine police officers died in the attack. The truck bomb detonated at the front gates, a suicide bomber attacked the back wall, and rockets were fired inside the institution's courtyard.
"It is indeed a wild scene," Katherine O'Neill, a Globe and Mail reporter in Kandahar, told CTV Newsnet on Saturday.
"Soldiers are desperately searching for prisoners that are still remaining in the city, but as of today, a lot of them have already fled Kandahar City."
They have headed to the Taliban hotbeds southwest of the city, she said.
In Kandahar, residents were quite fearful. The escaped criminals ranged from thieves to murderers, O'Neill said.
People in the city have "hunkered down," she said, adding many could actually feel the blast at Sarposa on Friday.
The attack is seen as a huge setback for Canadian troops in Kandahar province. NATO officials concede the Taliban's attack was a success.
"We admit it,'' said International Security Assistance Force spokesperson Brig. Gen. Carlos Branco. "Their guys did the job properly in that sense, but it does not have a strategic impact. We should not draw any conclusion about the deterioration of the military operations in the area.''
O'Neil said it has "already been a busy fighting season" and some gains had been made by NATO troops, but now roughly 400 militants may once again take up arms.
Branco tried to downplay the potential damage.
"OK, they got some more fighters, more shooters,'' Branco said. "(But) these guys who escaped from the prison are not going to change the operational tempo and they do not provide the Taliban with operational initiative.''
Gen. Rick Hillier, who steps down as Canada's top soldier next month, told reporters in Calgary on Saturday the escape wouldn't raise the threat level for Canadian troops because Afghanistan is already a very dangerous mission.
With files from The Canadian Press
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I applaud the budget, even though Health Care and education may stay unscathed. Sadly this cannot last and I worry to later this year where cuts will become enviable. If anything, this provides the Wildrose Alliance plenty of ammo when an election is called.








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Chris from MB
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CDN Soldier
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eddytoronto
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"It is indeed a wild scene,"
I can see more of my Canadian Brothers and sisters being killed now.
This is an Illegal War we must withdraw NOW.
Prisoners already fled Kandahar City."
They have headed to the Taliban hotbeds southwest of the city!
These bankers are using my Canadian brothers and sisters to do evil...
John
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Greg in the Hammer
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The Vietnamese showed the world how to beat and insurgency against Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge in Cambodia.
It takes patience perserverance, focus and a continued attack against their means of supply and personnel. Keep them living in squalor in caves and tents and hungry. Eventually rational thought takes over front ideological zeal and capitulation follows.
Hopefully NATO will stay the course and we will one day be able to no longer refer to Afghanistan as a failed state.
Ken
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ISupportRTroops
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Exiled Canadian
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This is not an illegal war. What the Taliban-supported Al Qaeda did on 9/11 was. Do you remember that? Do you remember that we're there because some of our "Canadian brothers and sisters" were in those building and died?
This just is another example of how these people are extremist lunatics who have ZERO interest in talking. They are at war and they are in "jihad" mode. Do you know what a jihad is?
If these same people were sitting right next to you right now, you could say whatever you want and talk peace and respect and cooperation and understanding and yada, yada, yada and they would still decapitate you.
Some folks just don't get it. Al Qaeda and the Taliban and all those other muslim extremists are out to destroy the West no matter what because they believe it is their duty to God and they cannot renounce that duty even if it costs their lives. It is the same type of mindset the kamikazes had for their emperor during WWII.
These fanatics must be defeated on their soil or they will get stronger and reappear on ours again and bring more 9/11s.
raj
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Cheers to our troops. God bless you all
Raj
Kevin Aubie
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Paul (Cdn military retd.)
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Hundreds of Taliban? Weapons? Pannned assault. Where do they get their support? They are Afgahns!!!! WE are the invaders. It is THEIR country and we should get the hell out.
Martin
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This may not have been an illegal war, but it certainly wasn't a necessary one.
Exiled Canadian, these wars have simply become blood for blood. The fighting is self-perpetuating because of both side's desire for vengeance on the other. Our continued presence in the Middle East is fostering an unending cycle of hate, unfortunately it seems like things are far past the point of diplomacy or reason.
GO CANADA!!
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What drugs are you on? There is no withdrawing at this point. The Taliban are not attacking us because we are attacking them... they are attacking us because they believe that our very way of life is wrong. They attack us for existing and living our own way and not ours. And by the way... For all you naysayers out there making bad comments about our troops and their decisions... SHAME ON YOU!! If they didn't bring the fight to the talibans back yard, you can bet that nice easy chair your sitting in, that they would bring it to ours.(Like they have before) So at this point, the only thing coming out of your mouth is THANK YOU!! Your sitting in that easy chair because of their sacrifice. Remember when you look at your family, that they are safe because of the soldiers of canada (and not in regards to just this issue). SUPPORT YOUR TROOPS!!
PBW
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Like, westerners, the Taliban and al Qaeda know the meaning of Carpe Diem, and they did just that, taking advantage of a structure that was, from the security point of view, weak.
JEN
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evan from the GTA
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Dan - Woodstock
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Chris from MB
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So John, it is easy to speak from the comfort of my own home, and I have definitley earned my right to speak from my own home. Its easy to dismiss this as armchair politics just because I am going against the popular majority (both government and military) but it is what I believe.
Reece
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JusticeIsBlind
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The fight is for freedom, so Afghans can enjoy a more complete, free and modern life like we do here.
To back up her husband's sacrifice, please let's find some way to tell our government that women's rights have to be part of our fight.
So far they are not since sharia law has been implemented.
Millions of little girls attending school is a noble accomplishment but won't help long term if they can still be legally beaten or killed by their government at some later date for kissing their boyfriend in public.
Until their justice system is gender blind and recognizes equality for all they will remain in a dark place as a society in spite of our efforts.
eddytoronto
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Those Buildings were pulverised. Molten steel running down the Channel in the Basement?...Please inside Job!
Also :Dennis Kucinich to Introduce 60 Impeachment Bush,and those involved Media Corps are also involved.
Article I
Creating a Secret Propaganda Campaign to Manufacture a False Case for War Against Iraq.
Article II
Falsely, Systematically, and with Criminal Intent Conflating the Attacks of September 11, 2001, With Misrepresentation of Iraq as a Security Threat as Part of Fraudulent Justification for a War of Aggression.
Article III
Misleading the American People and Members of Congress to Believe Iraq Possessed Weapons of Mass Destruction, to Manufacture a False Case for War.
Article IV
Misleading the American People and Members of Congress to Believe Iraq Posed an Imminent Threat to the United States.
Article V
Illegally Misspending Funds to Secretly Begin a War of Aggression.
Article VI
Invading Iraq in Violation of the Requirements of H. J. Res114.
Article VII
Invading Iraq Absent a Declaration of War.
Article VIII
Invading Iraq, A Sovereign Nation, in Violation of the UN Charter.
Article IX
Failing to Provide Troops With Body Armor and Vehicle Armor.
Article X
Falsifying Accounts of US Troop Deaths and Injuries for Political Purposes.
Article XI
Establishment of Permanent U.S. Military Bases in Iraq.
Article XII
Initiating a War Against Iraq for Control of That Nation’s Natural Resources.
Article XIIII
Creating a Secret Task Force to Develop Energy and Military Policies With Respect to Iraq and Other Countries.
Article XIV
Misprision of a Felony, Misuse and Exposure of Classified Information And Obstruction of Justice in the Matter of Valerie Plame Wilson, Clandestine Agent of the Central Intelligence Agency.
Article XV
Providing Immunity from Prosecution for Criminal Contractors in Iraq.
Article XVI
Reckless Misspending and Waste of U.S. Tax Dollars in Connection With Iraq and US Contractors.
Article XVII
Illegal Detention: Detaining Indefinitely And Without Charge Persons Both U.S. Citizens and Foreign Captives.
Article XVIII
Torture: Secretly Authorizing, and Encouraging the Use of Torture Against Captives in Afghanistan, Iraq, and Other Places, as a Matter of Official Policy.
Article XIX
Rendition: Kidnapping People and Taking Them Against Their Will to “Black Sites” Located in Other Nations, Including Nations Known to Practice Torture.
Article XX
Imprisoning Children.
Article XXI
Misleading Congress and the American People About Threats from Iran, and Supporting Terrorist Organizations Within Iran, With the Goal of Overthrowing the Iranian Government.
Article XXII
Creating Secret Laws.
Article XXIII
Violation of the Posse Comitatus Act.
Article XXIV
Spying on American Citizens, Without a Court-Ordered Warrant, in Violation of the Law and the Fourth Amendment.
Article XXV
Directing Telecommunications Companies to Create an Illegal and Unconstitutional Database of the Private Telephone Numbers and Emails of American Citizens.
Article XXVI
Announcing the Intent to Violate Laws with Signing Statements.
Article XXVII
Failing to Comply with Congressional Subpoenas and Instructing Former Employees Not to Comply.
Article XXVIII
Tampering with Free and Fair Elections, Corruption of the Administration of Justice.
Article XXIX
Conspiracy to Violate the Voting Rights Act of 1965.
Article XXX
Misleading Congress and the American People in an Attempt to Destroy Medicare.
Article XXXI
Katrina: Failure to Plan for the Predicted Disaster of Hurricane Katrina, Failure to Respond to a Civil Emergency.
Article XXXII
Misleading Congress and the American People, Systematically Undermining Efforts to Address Global Climate Change.
Article XXXIII
Repeatedly Ignored and Failed to Respond to High Level Intelligence Warnings of Planned Terrorist Attacks in the US, Prior to 911.
Article XXXIV
Obstruction of the Investigation into the Attacks of September 11, 2001.
Article XXXV
Endangering the Health of 911 First Responders.
JP from ON
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Allan Eizinas
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We have no idea where our (Canadian captured prisoners) are being housed.
We now have one less jail in which to house them.
We have no idea who was being incarcerated in this prison and for what “crimes”.
We have no idea who has escaped, why they were there and how much of a threat they are to our Canadian troops.
There are now about 1,000 people who should not be in the Kandahar population who are now in the Kandahar population.
What is going on?
Who is in charge?
Is anyone else beginning to suspect that the Canadian public is not being told the truth of what is happening on the ground?
Madness!!
bobby
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9/11 inside job??? That tells me all I need to know about your level of thinking.
Right-wing American Christians equal to the Taliban??? Right! Beware of them flying into high office towers!
SHEEEESH!
God bless our troops - and save Canada from loons like these.
Jason Daniel Baker
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The Canadian Forces knew this going in didn't they?
I think that if the Taliban is raiding prisons to replenish its numbers then it might be a sign that they are less formidable then they would have us believe.
But then how can we really know? They hide their numbers by blending in with regular Afghans.
DH
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If the freed Taliban won't make an impact - then why were they locked up?
It doesn't say much for the ISAF/Afghan prison system if those that didn't take off are too old to flee -why are they there?
Support your troops, bring them home.
Max
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Chicken Little
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Oh, Wait. I forgot that in war, even when you win one hands down (as we did vs. Germany in 1945), there are setbacks and losses. This isn't a football game, this is life and death, and sometimes the bad guys win one.
Troop Supporter
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cattt
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Joe C - Waterloo ON
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Ron
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Eric
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Of course this is a huge coup for the Taliban. Unfortunately our leaders will now 'spin' it as no big deal. We live in a democracy but our leaders will lie to us and then lie some more.
bottom line: this mission is not winnable despite the propaganda.
Future CDN Soldier
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mac
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But when they escape, they're not dangerous.
As usual, NATO is a joke . . . because it is controlled by the US, which is a joke.
JKO
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While the USofA is killing in Iraq, the Taliban has spent the past several years re-arming, re-grouping and their missions have become more sophisticated, as we've seen in this prison break and all I hear from Canadians is the same drivel: 'support the troops', 'support gitmo'. I support neither.
The legality of this war is not the issue, the issue is this is a conflict that no one cares about; all eyes are on Iraq and Iran. Afghanistan is not even on the American radar, they have other imperialist quests they're pursuing.
Anka
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All legitimate and credible information about Al-Queda and other similiar groups demonstrate they have ZERO interest in 'destroying the west'; all their stated goals are to remove Americans and other Western colonizers from their lands.
This laughable lie that they 'hate us for our freedoms' is frankly embarrassing.
The fanatics are the ones who have been running North American foreign policy to benefit Israel and the bring on the Rapture; we have our own religious extremists that need to be delt with.
Jay from Cambridge
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Paul: Finally a soldier I can respectfully support!
Ali K. from Alberta
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I do Reece. I see the similarities and it scares me to my bones. Also, I dont believe I've read anything here that supports the Taliban, I certainly dont. I want them destroyed, I want the women of Afghanistan to be free but, lets be honest here ... the United States does not care one iota about AFghanistan or its innocent men,women and children. They guarantee the continued failure of that mission inorder to keep wagging the dog and creating the illusion that they're 'fighting the war on blah blah blah'.
We are being used by the Americans so they can go off and colonize Arabia and cement Israeli hegemony in the region.
Edward J Samson CD, Capt Retired
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To Paul (Cdn Military Rtd) and Chris from MB. "Right on."
It is my guess that a great number of those staunch supporters of "This Mess" in Afgaistan are "armchair supporters". How many of you "war supporters" have proudly worn the CF uniform? How many of you "war supporters" are on your way to the recruiting centre to enlist and be a part of this mess we find our soldiers in in Afganistan.
I support our Canadian Soldiers whereever they are, I served with them as a Chaplain. I know them as the good people they are. I have friends serving over there. I lost a good friend over there.
Now you "war supporters" put your feet where your mouth is and "March off to a CF Recruiting Centre."
Anyway is there any such thing as a "legal war"?
Padre, Retired
Justin
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No, they are not Prisoners of War. They are classified as 'Unlawful Combatants' and not entitled to PW status. Feel free to read the Law of Armed Conflict Manual (available on the CF website) for why.
cat
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glen gaffney
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charles
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Bill
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Tut, tut. We'll just round them all up and all will be forgotten, right?
This is an example a very well financed (millions of $) Canadian Military PR/ Spin Machine in overdrive.
Perhaps we should put some of the millions of dollars of tax payer money that goes into this Military PR Machine back into improving the security of Taliban fighters in the jails in Afghanistan ! I'd rather know that the efforts of our Canadian soldiers over there are really paying off than have to read the propanganda and lies being fed to us from our own federal Government and Military !
Retired Sgt
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They got away with this one through absolutly no fault of yours.
Keep up the good work brothers watch your 6, sure wish I didn't get broken and was there beside you.