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Josh Visser, CTV.ca News Staff

Date: Sat. May. 31 2008 12:59 PM ET

A group of University of Ottawa law students have filed a complaint with the privacy commissioner of Canada against the social networking website Facebook.

The 35-page complaint alleges 22 separate violations of Canadian privacy laws by the California-based company under the Personal Information Protection and Electronic Documents Act (PIPEDA).

"To boil it down simply, it's an issue of honesty and an issue of consent," Lisa Feinberg, a University of Ottawa law student who has just completed her first year, told CTV.ca. "Facebook isn't being completely honest with its users. It presents itself as a social utility site . . . but they are actually involved in a lot of commercial activities."

Feinberg is part of a team of University of Ottawa law students who filed the complaint as part of a project developed while they were interns with the university's Canadian Internet Policy and Public Interest Clinic, led by Philippa Lawson.

More than seven million Canadians use Facebook, the third-largest user base of the website in the world, behind the U.S. and the U.K. But proportionally, Canada has much larger percentage of overall users.

Harley Finkelstein, who just completed his third year of a four-year combined law and MBA degree, said it was "no longer a question whether Facebook would catch on in Canada.

"That's an outrageous amount of users in Canada, so we knew right away that if . . . U.S. advocacy groups were alleging that there were (privacy issues with Facebook), there were definitely issues that applied to Canada," he told CTV.ca. "We knew we had to do something about it."

The complaints

The complainants assert that Facebook's privacy settings and terms of use are too unwieldy and hidden to be picked up by many of the site's younger users or those new to the Internet.

"If it took me this long, and I'm in law school and I'm studying this stuff, to figure out what they are doing, how is your average 16-year-old going to know?" Feinberg asked.

Finkelstein said that most of the seven million Canadians using Facebook are between the ages of 15 and 24, "who may not understand how to configure the privacy settings."

Another complaint is that Facebook's default privacy settings are set to the maximum amount of sharing. The complainants say that the default setting should be set to the maximum for privacy, allowing the user to "opt in" to share information.

"We think that when people sign up right away they should be taken to their privacy settings," Feinberg said.

Finkelstein said much of the information put on Facebook is "sensitive information" -- date of birth, address, phone number, martial status or sexual preference.

Canadian legislation sets out that if sensitive information is being used, explicit consent is necessary by a user, he said.

"Facebook should have their privacy setting set to maximum," Finkelstein said. "If users want to allow some more vulnerability, or more people to access them, people should specifically opt in to that, rather than the reverse."

The complaint also says Facebook fails to:

  • Identify the purposes for which it obtains personal information.
  • Safeguard personal information from unauthorized access.
  • Explain its policies on the personal information that is disclosed to third party advertisers and application developers.
  • Destroy personal information of users who terminate their use of Facebook services.

Facebook responds

Facebook responded to the complaint in an email to the Toronto Star. Spokesperson Amy Sezak wrote, "We've reviewed the complaint and found it has serious factual errors -- most notably its neglect of the fact that almost all Facebook data is willingly shared by users."

There appears to be a philosophical difference between Facebook and the complainants. Company founder Mark Zuckerberg has made no qualms about his hopes that people would want to share information with their friends and community.

He strongly backed the company's news feed -- now the central facet of the website, which acts like an online newspaper with headlines about your friends and family -- despite the initial backlash from its users several years ago.

The complainants seem much less concerned with the social shift that has occurred in recent years, with people becoming much more open with their personal lives online. Many Facebook users will merely shrug at the thought of their information being "breached."

Finkelstein said that Facebook users do need to take some personal responsibility with their online presence but that some of the features of Facebook, such as developers or advertisers accessing your information, are out of a user's control.

"With something like social networking, you have to be cautious, but that doesn't relieve Facebook of liability for things that are out of a user's hands completely," he said.

Both Feinberg and Finkelstein admit to being Facebook users but say that they've changed their privacy settings over the course of their research.

Feinberg calls the website a "great tool" and commended the company on some of their past actions in regards to privacy complaints.

Under Canadian law, the privacy commissioner has up to one year to respond and report on the complaint.

However, the privacy commissioner can only make recommendations, and Facebook would not be compelled to make the changes.

Please Add Comments( )

MYOB
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I stay away from these sites...

there's an old saying...
if you don't want something heard...don't say it out loud...




Simon
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And some people wonder why no one likes lawyers. If someone doesn't like Facebook, then don't use it.


MR in NB
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I do not use facebook. If I were to use it, I would assume all information on it would be somehow accessable to everyone. Its a buyer beware world. I may someday use it but if I do I am not foolish enough to think there is any privacy (its the INTERNET - public by nature). Its a great way to sell my services, as well as a way to promote my PUBLIC image. In any real way, it is a selling tool! Only reason it is there is to SELL advertising! In exchange for access, you are presented with messages from advertisers - they pay ALL THE BILLS there, that is why it is worth so much money.


Bernie
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Feinberg and Finkelstein...You have the makings of two-thirds of a fabulous law firm! LOL

Go get 'em!!


Downey
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Are people forced to add personal information on facebook? Are people forced to sign up to be a facebook member? NO! It's all volunary. Nothing better to do with your time there Mr. "and I'm in law school"?


Mud
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and nothing is preventing users from making a new profile


Joe C
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That is principally why I left facebook. I am very concerned that the company does not take a proactive approach to security - especially in an age where paedophiles can run so rampant on naive children.

What also concerns me is that they make it difficult to have your account permanently deleted. I had to email them directly, and even then, I had to spend about an hour deleting literally everything off of my account.

Until I hear reliable reports that Facebook has upped their security standards, I will have no part in that site.


Facebook user
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Great way to stay in touch with friends across the country and around the world. This lawsuit has some validity, but when I signed up I actually read the legal disclaimer stuff and agreed with it. This is nothing but a bunch of young lawyers trying to make a quick name for themselves. Hopefully the courts see through this charade.


RL
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The common response to this is; if you don't like it don't use it. Unfortunately due to the large proliferation of Facebook users in Canada many of us don't have a choice. I do not have a Facebook account but there are hundreds of picture of me that were posted by various friends, groups, etc. That invades my rights to privacy.


Dan
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Facebook is for overgrown children, but still if it is insidious and breaking Canadian Law then the problem should be fixed.


Delores
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Oh Come on!!!
Have they nothing better to do with their time? Facebook is an absolute blessing for me a 40 something mother, I have found friends that I've wondered about for years. One who I haven't seen since childhood, that lives in Argentina found me. This is a wonderful website and I think it's like the other comments say, if you don't want it known, don't write it out there. Thanks Facebook!!


Christina in Ottawa
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I'm a Facebook user.

I'm afraid of the lack of security on that website as well, and the fact that you can't actually *delete* your account/profile. Facebook merely deactivates it, but then keeps the info in their logs/files until you want to come back. So the only way is to delete the info yourself, and then you're still stuck with a profile you can't actually delete.

I'm applauding these students for their efforts, because it's about time that Canadian's were aware of what is happening with their information on that website.

I hope that the privacy commissioner finds Facebook lacking. I then hope that the developers of the site do make some changes for security for their members who might not know what type of information that they're releasing.

As for me, I'm upping the security settings (all individually and bloody hard to find) so that I can feel secure that my information isn't being leaked to everyone with a computer.


George
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Has common sense completely lost all hold on society? Must lawsuits be issued for everything that someone doesn't like these days.
It's a shame that people take a good thing and use it for bad intentions... wouldn't it be great to actually punish those that would even try... and give more that a slap on the wrist?
When governments start to see that serious consequences are needed... why are they so timid?


Socialism is killing us
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These "students" don't realize how computers and the internet works. Don't they realize that now having their names in the CTV article, they will live on on the internet forever. Their ISPs track their every move as do any website they visit. You have to be pretty stupid to put any information of value such as credit cards, Social Insurance Numbers on any website. I'm no worried about surfing the net. I'm more worried about some government server getting hacked that stores millions of user accounts that contain any personal financial information.


DD
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Facebook shut down my account because I used a nickname and not my first name so people could find me. Facebook DEMANDED a digital copy of government issued photo ID to restore it. I was not allowed to fa a copy in either. If that's doesn't scream that they are breaking privacy laws in Canada I don't know what is. Needless to say, I didn't send them my healthcard - which they wanted more than a passport - and have not been on since, who needs a big american company who wants to steal your ID?


td
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Hmmm, a voluntary site has a privacy policy you don't like and you want them to change to comply with your terms.
Having a Facebook account is not mandatory. If you don't like it don't sign up.


Rod
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Law students huh? Idealist kids who have never spent a day in the real world are going to right all wrongs, make a name for themselves, pad their resume. Well kids, if that's what you really want to do, then take on something of importance that will improve the quality of life for the repressed, down trodden and beaten. Privacy on Facebook?...please.


Colonel Blimp
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Simple solution, if you are worried about the commercial use of your personal information then dont join facebook? Once again we see a bunch of loonie academics at the University of Ottawa trying to get press through their lemming like students. No doubt this is a class project for them.


commentfromeurope
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If you don't want people to see your personal information, on facebook, then don't add it into your personal profile.


Allan
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Amazing how many people here react to this story with stereotypes about lawyers. Look, first of all this isn't a lawsuit -- it's a complaint under a federal privacy law that exists to protect consumers. Do you think it's a bad thing for people to actually try to have consumer protection laws applied? Second, have you actually read the complaint? (It's a .pdf and is linked all over the place.) I have, and while I'm no expert it certainly looks like a serious piece of work, not some frivolous student prank. Finally, as a consumer I'm glad that these law students have the time and expertise to take this on. Would you rather they were out suing little old ladies on behalf of multinational corporations?


M.Bell
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RE: SIMON
Firstly, these students are taking steps in an attempt to protect the rights of others (who likely don't even know their rights).
Secondly, your stereotypical comment about nobody liking lawyers is uncalled for. I challenge you to name some lawyers that you know personally and 'don't like' solely on account of their profession.


Garry in NS
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Do these "wannabe lawyers" really believe that Canadian privacy laws are enforceable against an American based company located in California? Obviously they have not yet learned the concept of Cavet Emptor (let the buyer - or in this case user - beware). If your stupid enough to give your private information to an unsecure internet site then you should not be surprised if it is missused.


Melissa
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I'm so confused as to why anyone would oppose what these students--who, btw, have a ton of iniative--are doing. Have you actually read the terms of use? Do you know that by putting a picture on your profile, FB has a permanent, worldwide, royalty free, irrevocable licence to use that photo in any way it wants? Do you know that even if you ask them to delete content from your profile, they keep it cached, just in case they ever find a use for it, and that you cannot contest that use? It's stupid and apathetic to say that if you don't like it, don't use it. FB and the likes of it get away with this horsecrap because people are too apathetic to fight it. I say good for those that are fighting the good fight.


richard dye
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RL,

I think you make a good point, HOWEVER, if your friends are posting unwanted info or pictures on facebook, then you need to talk to THEM. Not facebook. They could post pics or info about you on countless internet websites or for that matter on a local bulletin board. Your friends are responsible for doing that. You need to make it clear to them, your feelings on the matter.


richard dye
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Melissa,

Read your own post. "terms of agreement". Yes, everyone SHOULD read it and anything else they "sign". In the end, the users agree to it and then they provide the information in question. It is up to them. It is perhaps foolish of them, but that is their decision (and the relevant info is available to them). This is not a decision that should be removed legally.


Frank Buchan
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Like any for-profit corporation (which is what Facebook is), someone needs to be vigilant on behalf of the consumers. This is especially important for a "social network" that has no investment in the communities it serves, in the sense that they have no social responsibility.

At the most basic level, their terms of use has a major flaw in that they allow users of ages below the ages of informed consent (in many jurisdictions). Because of that alone, their privacy settings should default to the maximum security levels, to at least give the perception of concern for privacy.

Good for these students taking some initiative to impose responsibility on these service providers.


c.dort
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Eye opener

I just found out that my account I thought was closed on facebook really isn't. I am all for the lawsuit. Go get them.



Gregg
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Facebook does a great job at sucking people in and selling them out. Given the majority people don't seem to want any privacy whatsover for the sake of convenience, we need champions like these students to protect users from themselves.

I'll also say, go get 'em!


Stephen NY
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Facebook is an American based networking site, people join the site completely voluntarily, and is not to be held accountable to PIPEDA. All you people need to do is write a complaint and put a petition together, you people say us Americans are sew happy, take a look at yourselves.


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