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Date: Thu. May. 29 2008 5:49 PM ET

As provincial and territorial finance ministers sat down for meetings with their federal counterpart on Thursday, Jim Flaherty tried to ease the public's worries about the economy.

A Harris-Decima for Investors Group survey suggested that consumer confidence is at its lowest level since the fall of 2001.

Flaherty told CTV Newsnet's Mike Duffy Live Thursday evening that economic problems south of the border are having a negative impact on the Canadian economy.

"Certainly, there's a recession in U.S. housing. Unfortunately, that affects Canada quite dramatically, particularly in the auto sector and in the forestry sector. Canada is not an island," the federal finance minister said.

But Flaherty also said Thursday that he's optimistic about the Canadian economy.

He told CTV's Canada AM earlier that Canadians are becoming worried about their own economic situation because they're watching media reports about what appears to be a declining U.S. economy.

"I encourage Canadians to look at home here at how well we're doing with our solid economic fundamentals and have confidence in our economy here in Canada," Flaherty said.

Statistics Canada will release Canada's quarterly growth number on Friday -- a figure most economists predict will jump by a meagre 0.5 per cent.

The forecasted growth is half of what the Bank of Canada projected earlier this year.

Flaherty said he's still "comfortable" with his forecast for economic growth of 1.7 per cent in 2008.

Flaherty will meet with the finance ministers over two days to discuss economic issues such as a national securities regulator and internal trade barriers.

The finance minister said the ministers will also discuss the "collective responsibility" of all levels of government to help grow the economy.

Additionally, Flaherty said Ottawa is still trying to achieve a 25 per cent business tax rate overall.

"Most of the provinces are moving in that direction together with the federal government," he said on Canada AM.

However, Ontario and Quebec favour grants for troubled sectors to encourage companies to locate in their provinces.

Flaherty said he was encouraged that Ontario Premier Dalton McGuinty has been talking about lowering business taxes in the last few weeks.

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Sonny
said

Flaherty should look at the record high price of gas and by transportation - the food is not so positive.

With a lower projected growth rate, the economy is slowing from the previous estimate of 1.7%

Given the past fiscal year had a $10.2 billion surplus. He should return some of that over taxation in the form of services and projects to spur the sectors that are having problems.


steve I. C.
said

Flaherty said Canadians are becoming so worried about their own economic situation because they're watching media reports about the U.S. economy.

ya! That and a lack of faith in our government and the finance minister.


Dean
said

The government should stop "trying" for a 25% business rate and just do it. Take some real action! It would be nice if real business people were in government instead of useless lawyers and other lay people. If the government really wanted to spur growth and wealth for everyone, they would implement a flat 20% income tax for everyone without any loopholes such as rrsp's Then, the government would also have to be made etc. Everyone would pay their fair share and everyone would be responsible to save for their own futures. accountable to only spend what it takes in or less in order to pay down the debt. This would in turn eventually allow the gov't to lower taxes further and would spur more economic growth and wealth for all of us and our country. How much longer can we afford to have this "borrowed" standard of living?

Spencer
said

It would also help if the Media would accent the positive in our economy instead of accenting the negative in the US and then turn around and warn us that "its just a matter of time before it hits us." They seem to want this so they can pile it on the conservatives for the next election and so they can get their Liberal government, with its new Carbon Tax. That will kill the economy for sure! Probably wont post this either.


Roger T
said

What political spokes person isn't optimistic about anything when it comes to standing on the podium and speaking for the public ESPECIALLY WHEN THEIR PARTY IS BROILED IN SCANDALS AND FALLOUTS.

Fake smiles and Hollywood queued scripts to amend and manipulate facts to claim the public's fear in order to restore public respect for the party. Isn't it obvious that the Harper Gov't is trying desparately to save their party's image.

The economy is in shambles and manufacturing job lost is left and right and gas & food prices have rocketed to new highs. The housing market is slow as buyers and sellers are re-thinking about their purchase fear of a uncertain future. Reatil sales are slipping while shoppers are shying away from buying because greedy corporations are not lowering their prices to reflect the rising dollar. To top it all off, Scandals from Bernier's affair with former girlfriend gang member which indeed push the Harper Gov't to do damage controls.


DO
said

Yeah right! I'm not optimistic! I'm unable to work and I collect a disability check. Which basically pays for rent/mortgage and utilities. That's about it! I still have to think about food for my family. I heard our utilities are going up 30-35% as of June 1/08. I really like to know how we're going to live. I think Mr. Flaherty has to wake up and smell the roses. This country is going down!


Scott in Victoria
said

Is anyone considering Canada's boomers who will be 'forced' by old age to one day retire? Just becasue you can work past 65 doesn't mean you can work till you are 85. How will this affect Canada's economy in the next ten years? Of course it mustm't be a concern because nobody is talking about it!


ET
said

Good for Flaherty. I'm so glad to see that he thinks plant closures and layoffs are good for the economy...that's the CANADIAN news in Southern Ontario. And, just like his time in the provincial government, he is completely out of touch with his constituants and just doesn't give a damn. But hey! As long as you have a job at Beckers, and someone new coming into the country can get your old 40K job right away, who cares?!


Douglas
said

Flaherty knows exactly what is saying and why he is saying it! His government is showing it's lack of leadership, it's blatant hypocracy and incompetance for all to see. This optimism is only 'political spin'.
Rather than claiming that all is rosy, he should do the right thing and confirm that things are tight and will be for some time.


FreakAlert
said

It's one thing to be told to feel optimistic or pessimistic, but another to be realistic with the actual, real numbers. When one listens to people like Jim Rogers, Peter Schiff and, even, Dr. Ron Paul, just to name a few, about an economic collapse in the US, it's quite worrisome.

I, for one, as a Canadian am quite worried for my fellow Canadians and their families.

I am not quite sure how much control Flaherty and Carney have over the BoC, but maybe something can be done to lower fuel costs here in Canada inorder for our economy to weather any economic uncertainty.







IT Manager in Calgary
said

Maybe if the government hadn't taken $11 billion a year out of the economy with their stupid "buy votes from the ignorant masses" GST cut, we'd be in better shape.

This reminds me of when Alberta turned over its first surplus under Klein, and the absolute first thing he did was shell out more money to the greedy corporate sector under the phoney guise that it will "stimulate the economy" - and it literally did nothing. It did not create any new jobs, it just lined the pockets of the wealthy, which really is the Conservative Modus Opperandi.


Rod
said

I think Flaherty is bang on. As for my fellow posters complaining about job layoffs in manufacturing and high food prices get real if you think the government can control these. I want my government to stay out of tinkering with the economy and supporting an'old molded and out dated' economic system financial support. Ontario talks a good game but is not prepared to invest in new technologies (green technologies, etc). Why are the environmentalists not asking their Provincial government to bail out the auto sector? Why not look to manufacture something that no one else can? How did this become a national problem? Due to globalization, high commodity prices & a high Canadian dollar manufacturing in Canada, at high union wages, is no longer competitive. Wasting money on grants, from the Federal government, will not change the dynamics of the real world economic realities.


paul
said

Jim Flaherty can't seem to make up his mind. One day he states that Canada's economy is following suit with the US and the next day Canada is in good standing and has nothing to worry about. No wonder Harper is shuffling the cabinet.


What do we want?
said

Contrary to popular belief the government's fiscal policy is not the main factor in our markets. Fiscal policy is important but could not stop auto sector production jobs from being lost. The Ontario government gave the auto sector a massive donation a la the tax payer and it did not achieve anything. Lending policies have to remain prudent in order to continue to avoid the problems the U.S is seeing. This must be coupled with industry evolving to participate in a changing economy not simply asking for hand outs. Domestic vehicles are over priced, not fuel efficient and produced at an inflated cost. If you don't want to cash in your current job for a Mcjob then be mindfull of your spending habits. Shop in Canadian stores and buy Canadian goods. If you shop at Walmart and buy cheep imports don't complain about lost manufacturing jobs. The market supplies for demand. If we demand cheap and dangerous goods from China that is what we will get. If this happens there is not much any goverment could do.


The Real Jonny
said

Unlimited economic growth on a limited planet is impossible. Maybe trying to achieve 'growth' every year is the wrong target, more especially as energy prices rise due to increasing scarcity (it will effectively run out one day ... are you looking forward to paying $5 per L of gas?).

The party will end one day. Shouldn't we, like, get ready for that day?


Shamaro
said

Well, who wouldn't be a little concerned? I'm sorry, but when the price of food is climbing, the price of fuel to drive you car is climbing, the price it costs to heat your home and your income has stagnated or maybe you get a modest increase, it's getting harder and harder for Canadians. Ontario is, as always getting the short end of the stick. We pay and pay into this country big time, more then any other privince. In fact we pay over $20 billion more and this province, which is quickly becoming a have not province is still expected to pay. I'm sorry Mr. Flaherty, but times are tough for the guys in the middle and lower income bracket. Maybe you should come and have a sitdown and a chat with a few of us and you'll see what I mean. Heck! Even in your own riding sir, people are losing their jobs in record numbers and you're saying we shouldn't worry. Ha!


Ian
said

Geez, I am glad to see things being so great.

Perhaps Flaherty and the band of crooks in Ottawa should start living like real people and pay their fair share of expenses. Gas is up yet again which just fuels (so to speak) the Federal surplus through their taxes. The cost of food is going up because it takes more money to get the food to the shelves, yet we are going great guns.

Does Mr Flaherty and his boss think Canadians are stupid.

I guess it doesn't matter because when they get booted out of power, like all politicians they will collect a nice pension courtesy of us hard working taxpayers.

Things are starting to add up real quick in Ottawa and perhaps an election is in the wind.


Flaherty has done well !
said

Finance Minister Jim Flaherty has done a commendable job with the tax reduction strategies of his budget last fall.

Of particular note is the tax free savings account coming in 2009 which will finally allow smaller tax payers an opportunity to be involved in such things as gains from resource stocks without taxation. If properly applied that is a HUGE concession for Canadians by their government.

Also the partial lifting of locked in retirement plans is a positive step in the right direction. Hopefully he will remove all restrictions in the future. All in all his stimuli have been good for Canadians.







What Canada really needs
said

We need a system with a flat tax. Say 12% tax on sales and income no more. They would save BILLIONS on administration and have Canadians all kinds of hassles.

We have this overbearing complicated tax system thanks to the zany Liberals and their give with one hand and take with the other mentality.




neilpk70
said

This is reminiscent of the Conservative government's reaction to every financial crisis it has ever faced, going back to 1929. Their response, then and now, was "don't worry, be happy- unbridled free enterprise will save us all, and government doesn't have to do anything". The fact is that you need a healthy blend of free enterprise and government foresight.


Sonny
said

Flaherty tries to push for a lower tax rate for business. The problem is that companies not making money don't pay much in business taxes.

What happens in the U$ does matter because it is CANADA's main trading partner. Looking at recent data their slowdown/recession? is projected at 12 to 24 months...


Bob
said

Mr Flaherty is doing the right thing by paying down the national debt and providing a favourable enviroment for business investment. By lowering corporate taxes we are encouraging all businesses to invest money back into the Canadian economy.


Joe C
said

I'll believe him when he stops bashing provincial governments for their problems.


Brian
said

Great to see someone talking about the some of the positives, seems this and other media only care to report so much negativity, even when they have to stretchhhhhh to make a story.
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Record high job growth and employment (other than Ontario strugling a bit).
.
Considering the state in the US this government did right by lowering our tax's which allow us to still spend.
.
Yes its hard times in some sectors but Canada is a big country (not just Ontario) with all kinds of opportunity, all you have to do is look for it.
.
The conservatives have made a few mistakes but it is great to finally see a party that cares about all of Canada.


pp
said

Well holy moly. Optimistic is he? What planet is he living on? Is the air so rarified up there in his office that he doesn't notice how expensive the most important things in the country are lately?

Fuel (car and heating) - it has gone up 40% in the past year for me

Food - another 40% in the last couple months

Salary - ??? nope no raise there....

How can a person be optimistic when their expensis are going up but their income is static or decreasing?

I am taking one day a week off for the next month because I cannot afford to drive in to work... I may have to do this with ALL of my vacation time. Then I wont have any real vacation... oh well sucks to be me I guess.


DWB
said

He's right about Ontario.

McGuinty hands out welfare to manufacturers that can't compete because of unionized workers overpay themselves. What he should be doing is reducing corporate taxes to level the playing field for all businesses to be competitive and to attract new ones to replace sunset industries like auto manufacturing.

Taxpayers from all over Ontario are paying for Liberal purchase of votes in Oshawa and Windsor.


Doug BC
said

Most people feel a bit of a discomfort when normal market cycles turn down.It's not really a good excuse of partisan ploitical "spinning"
I'm not all that fond of Mr.Flaherty,or his public differences with some provincial leaders.That said,I do agree that lower costs for running business is a far better way to build an economy than the system of grants that are preferred in Ontario and Quebec.I think giving taxpayer dollars to private industry has to be restricted to very rare and short term emergencies,and come with conditions.The only real,and long term solution is to create an environment in which a business can compete,and survive on it's own.
Sadly,a lot of debt by various levels of government make it difficult to lower taxes to much.They still need revenue to pay for services,and,of course,service past debt.But we MUST NOT pass all this debt onto future generations.
The real problem is political.Very well meaning people have genuine differences of opinion,so,a national strategy is almost impossible.No matter who sits in Ottawa.Each province has it's own agenda,and often very different needs.So we can assume governments will pander to whoever it is that can get them elected.But if one province wants to go one way,and another a different way,each should shoulder the responsiblity for their choices.
Canada,with all it's resources,should have a very bright future.But only if we manage our economy with a long term goal.Maybe to use those resources to make this a very competetive place to do business and not simply a source of raw materials for other countries to use.
But no matter which party is in Ottawa,I think the days of "free lunches",and socialist give-a-ways are not sustainable.


Grim
said

IT Manager in Calgary

So there are no jobs in Alberta? Hasn't Alberta enjoyed amazing economic growht and extremely low unemployment under the conservative?

Get a grip.


Robin
said

Flaherty = 40watt bulb in a 100watt world...
Ignore the angry little man behind his curtain of lies!


Flat tax is unlikely
said

To those who are proposing a flat tax, this is unlikely. Modifications to taxation policy is the chief means of social engineering, to encourage certain types of behavior (e.g. riding public transit; investing in higher education; saving for retirement; investing in Canadian corporations) and to discourage other types of behavior (e.g. smoking, drinking alcohol) A flat tax, either on income or consumption, would remove the ability to provide and manipulate these incentives.


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